>self driving cars, anti aging research, smart cities, smart

I don't need all that I never asked for it desu

>>61394770
none of those things you listed will work.
but they are evil for tracking and reading everything you do and are exploiting your psychological weaknesses so they can sell you shit you don't need.

evil google is also releasing genetically modified mosquitoes in Fresno. Insane.

https://archive.fo/vVyPA

I'd rather have privacy than any of those things.

I'm fine with smart cars so long as they're not allowed above 45mph. City shit only basically, which is counter intuitive given statistically speaking long haul automated driving has to be safer I'm sure

>>61394770
You forgot to mention them illegally colluding with other companies to suppress wages. Real philanthropists.

>>61394804
did you even read your link? they made it so the offspring wont be able to reproduce they only "infected" males which dont bite and the "disease" only effects mosquitos that mate.

>archive link

oh wait you have schizophrenia my bad

if you tell them the hot gossip that john's wife has been fucking Tom from marketing, you get a few days of aging removed.

>>61394786
>>61394804
>>61394830
But don't you know it's the current century?

>he doesnt know about elsag8
>he doesnt know that google allows mature content on kids youtube app
>he doesnt remeber google trying to sway the election season for almost 2 years
>he doesnt remeber all the sjw holidays
>he doesnt notice all the youtube spotlight sjw topics

>>61394770
I actually had to wipe the cheeto dust off my fingers to respond to this.

privacy is the most important aspect of the nation today. without it we are just another dictatorship, please don't let corporations spy on you, put tape over your webcam and if there is an iphone or any cell phone in the room please move it to a different room so it won't record your conversations

>>61394804
>wants to stop mosquitos from breeding

yeah really insanse man
..

>>61394861
>effects mosquitos that mate
unintended consequences.
look what Zika did in Brazil. it started from genetically modified mosquitoes.

and who gave evil Google the right to experiment on people like this? you think it's OK for these fucking companies to do whatever they please even when it affect health of the population???? who gave those jew fuckers the right to do that?

>>61394786
its not for you anyway

>Self driving cars
Yay google can know where I'm going and where my car is at all times
>Anti aging research
What? I havent heard of this
>Smart cities
>Smart home
They see you when you're sleeping
Know when you're awake
Know when you've bewn bad or good
So be good for goodness sake!

>>61395907
>look what Zika did in Brazil. it started from genetically modified mosquitoes.
Do you actually believe this?

>>61394770
I think Google does bad and good things. I don't think they are evil or good, they are both. There is all kind of scary shit going on with Google but they do a lot of good too

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>>61394770
>self driving cars, anti aging research, smart cities, smart home
>any of these things leading in a positive direction

>>61397743
haha if your government actually cared about people being slayed by zika you would have a traveler warning and temporary ban from/to brazil

>>61395907
>who gave those jew fuckers the right to do that?

If you clicked the links on your shitty tertiary news article, you could answer that question.

>>61394896
>>61395907
4chan is getting all the crazies more and more and I've been here since forever...

>>61394770
>self driving cars, anti aging research, smart cities, smart home
are you unironically listing those as *positive* things?
jesus christ anon

>>61394770
>self driving cars, anti aging research, smart cities, smart home
I don't really want any of this, except may be the anti aging research (though it'd probably lead to chaos).

Self driving cars --> whistleblowers dying in car accidents due to """"bugs""""

smart home -> all the "smart" devices are not meant to help me, they're meant to help those selling stuff to me

smart cities -> same above, except not only help those selling stuff to me, but also the ones wanting to govern me

fuck google desu

>>61397796
No you haven't

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>falling for the "smart XYZ" meme

>>61394770
>Your car, now remotely controlled by the government!
>Okayish
>Your city, now constantly wiretapped by the government!
>Your home, now constantly wiretapped by the government!
I don't give a shit about them reading my emails. I care about all the shit you listed as positives.

>>61397837
Unfortunately I have...

>>61394770
they released a whole bunch of bacteria infected mosquitos for no good reason.

supposedly to study genetic defects, but how will gmo mosquitos do that?

>>61394770
>self driving cars
So they can track your every move
>anti aging research
As if people don't live too long already
>smart cities, smart home
More tracking, and more potential security risks then anyone could ever imagine

>>61397907
>for no good reason.
>supposedly to study genetic defects
did you read the story or just the headline?

>>61394770

>Changes name from Google to Alphabet Inc.
>Ironically becoming an alphabet agency.

>>61394881
The truly woke like you don't care about privacy, right?

>people can't acknowledge anti aging research as a positive because they're so butthurt about Gmail

Grow up

>>61398671
Source on that? Have they actually started researching?

>>61398743

Here you go family

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calico_(company)

>>61398762
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/4/27/15409672/google-calico-secretive-aging-mortality-research
Oh, great.

>>61394804
it's preventing zika from spreading

Google and Microshart are hardly evil compared to the Hollywood overlords.

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>>61398852
It's """ them """, right?
>PRISM project
>Hardly evil

>>61398802
>it's preventing zika from spreading
Retard, Zika was caused by GMO mosquitoes since GMO mosquitoes killed off a more benign specie of mosquito and allowed a more dangerous zika carrier to spread.

it's called unintended consequences. fucking with an ecosystem like this is dangerous.

>>61398868
All 'murican companies have a legal obligation. The gubmint is evil -- the companies, not so much.

>>61398895
You're a loony

>>61398970
>the companies, not so much.
What? You do realize there are other social networking websites and chat services which didn't participate in the PRISM project? That's not to say they don't have ways of data mining their users. How are companies obligated to participate?

>>61398852
>powerless dying media industry held up by Chinese when the CCP allows it

>>61397753
What's wrong with anti aging research? I agree that the other stuff is shit

>>61399106
>What's wrong with anti aging research? I agree that the other stuff is shit
>>61398780

>>61397983
>So they can track your every move
100% agreed
>As if people don't live too long already
I disagree. If they could fix part where people fall apart when they get old, that'd be the shit.
>More tracking, and more potential security risks then anyone could ever imagine
Agreed 100%

Can't wait until meat drivers get banned from the road network, the carfag butthurt will be glorious.

>>61399051
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act

>other social networking websites and chat services
I can only imagine all the shitposts and trap porn on twitter/reddit/tumblr being so useful for catching haxxors and terrorists. Surprised linkedin and 4chan were missing though.

I found this:
>In practice, that still means Twitter complies with a majority — 69 percent — of government requests for information. That’s much lower than Google, which complies with 88 percent of orders. Both companies have a policy of notifying users whenever their information is requested, but Twitter makes the government fight for every inch, often going to court even when victory is uncertain. When a judge attached a gag order to a request for user accounts connected to WikiLeaks, Twitter fought the order in a secret court and won. More recently, Twitter tussled with the New York City Police Department over a request for information on an Occupy Wall Street protester, and lost.
but about the only private data twitter has is the IP address. if they'd retained more sensitive data like Google I doubt they would've been able to resist.

>>61399128
I agree that the secrecy is not okay, but if they do manage to stop aging and share the cure with the world, it would be good
>>61399139
I hope you get run over by a Tesla

>>61394770
>smart home
nuclear holocaust when
I don't want to live in a world where my thermometer gets malware

>>61399188
>I can only imagine all the shitposts and trap porn on twitter/reddit/tumblr being so useful for catching haxxors and terrorists. Surprised linkedin and 4chan were missing though.
You don't know?
https://youtu.be/6KFz9WRRNpk

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>Google
>not evil

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>>61399647
Just in case you aren't convinced yet.

>>61399662
>4 off from 666
you had one job

>he still hasn't realized that google is god

Firefox users and people who don't sign in to chrome are not going to heaven

>>61398895
>Fucking with an ecosystem is bad

Except mosquitos don't do anything g beneficial to any ecosystem.

>>61397815
>Self driving cars --> whistleblowers dying in car accidents due to """"bugs""""
You forgot

>one or two fearmongerers fearmongering like always
>massive decrease in traffic
>massive decrease in car related deaths
>massive decrease in car related damage
>massive decrease in required parking space
>massive decrease in pollution

>>61399662
Friendly reminder that Lucifer means bringer of light. If it wasn't for him (or so the Christian fairytale goes), humanity would still be one naked man and one naked woman playing doll house at the mercy of God.

Lucifer is basically the Christian Prometheus.

>>61400001
>Atheism
>Referencing Prometheus like anybody saw it

Back to rodhat faggot.

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>>61397796
Veterancy really doesn't matter here (or anywhere really). You could have been here since day 0, it doesn't mean you catch everything when the site operates 24/7. 4chan was founded by crazies and has always had crazies, maybe you just didn't notice or fail to remember them.

The other important thing is that over time the crazy can get crazier.

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>>61394786
There was probably a bitch ass caveman around back in the day with your same mentality

"Fire, soap, clothes....I never asked for any of these things so they must be evil"

You sound gay AF dick

>>61400202
While you're correct up to a point, meaning that technology shouldn't be rejected just in spite of it, we know that Google is involved in the NSA's PRISM project and they're an advertising company too. Innovation they provide with their technological advancements includes data mining in some way.

>>61394830
If you want privacy then quit the internet

You want to take advantage of technologies that your monkey ass could never have even dreamed of, yet you feel like you have the right to complain about how they work

Friggin intitled peasant,

>>61400267
Not to automatically give them the benefit of the doubt, but who knows what kind of coercion the CIA might've leveraged on any of the company's involved in that project.

>>61394831

>implying the stupid cunts that literally kill tens of thousands yearly are superior drivers

>>61400267
I understand they're involved with the NSA.
I also understand they engage in advertising.
I mean at the end of the day are they not a US based tech company, specializing in advertising?

Since when has it been expected for a company not to comply with the law?
And when did we decide that it's bad for an advertising company to advertise?

If Google is so bad then get off Gmail, maps, YouTube, Android, search, etc...

Beggers can't be choosers,
Use the tech as it's provided to you (for free) and shut up, pay for a better alternative (if one exists), or just remove yourself from the ecosystem

No one holds a gun to your head and forces you to use Google products

>>61394804
>google is also releasing genetically modified mosquitoes in Fresno

PLEASE COME TO MY TOWN!!! Fuck. We can't even get their fiber plans not to fall through here.

>>61399662
Laughing my ass off. Never seen that "seal" anywhere else before.

>>61400371
Advertising in itself isn't bad, but modern online advertising which includes data mining and surveillance is.

>>61400427
So what's the alternative?

Google goes all kumba-ya and stops what are basically it's only profitable practices?

How long before they go broke and shut down everything and turn Gmail into a paid service?

What do we do as users if that's the case?
Move to Hotmail/Yahoo
Print out Mapquest maps
Look shit up using ask Jeeves or Bing
Go back to getting harrased by totally irrelevant pop-up ads

Without Google, the internet (as is) sucks

>>61400475
There are alternatives, especially now. An alternative to Google would be Startpage. Alternatives to Gmail are ProtonMail, Tutanota and OpenMailBox for example.
https://prism-break.org/en/

>>61394804
>exploiting your psychological weaknesses so they can sell you shit you don't need.
I seriously don't know why people see this as "evil", it's not like we need anything other than food and housing, everyone selling or marketing anything is trying to sell you shit you don't need, for their profit and your recreational enjoyment. Google(and others) tailoring it towards you never seemed like a bad thing to me. I'd rather see adverts for things I do want than something like baby food. If I'm going to buy something useless and Google knows the exact kind of useless I like them what's the problem, you can accidentally get exposed to something you really enjoy this way as well, their YouTube reccomendations are on point ofr me usually which certainly doesn't bother me when I'm trying to waste time/relax.

I don't think it's fair to blame them for other people's lack of self control and responsibility, we're just supposed to give up on trying to understand the desires of people just because some can't control themselves? That sounds like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

>>61400427
Why do you feel that way?

>>61400475
>How long before they go broke and shut down everything and turn Gmail into a paid service?
What? That's literally how things are for their business customers, and how things used to be. People either paid for a mail service, or paid for it as part of their internet provision.

>>61394770
>he's never read Orwell

>>61394770
>self driving cars

Where?

>anti aging

Where?

>smart cities

Where?

>smart home

Where?

>privacy infractions

Literally what their company is built on.

>>61400495
Not that Anon but I can tell you personally I would never invest my time in a product that has unclear financial support, I've been burned one too many times getting accustomed to a free service only to have it shut down later or turn paid, nobody likes having to migrate, especially something like email.

Google products are not likely to go away, they're very transparent on where they make their money and what data they collect to use, I can at least trust that they stick around for my lifetime. Google Drive is a good example, look at al lthose dead file lockers like megaupload, rapidshare, etc., those had adverts and paid services and they still died, I can't trust a good free service to last forever when they're not clear on how they maintain their costs, it's unfortunate because a good free service being good, negativley impacts it, it brings in more users and raises the maintenance costs which eventually kills it or forces their hand to do something people complain about.

>>61400566
I didn't like having to pay for it then, I really don't want to pay for it now. I'd rather host my own mail server if it wasen't for the spam whitelist you need to be on.

>>61400495
I named a few alternatives too, if you noticed

My point was they all suck.
It's not like these privacy issues are secrets that have just come out.

We've known Google gets down like this for a while, I haven't seen the masses move away from Gmail for thier alternatives

Why? Because they suck

>HURRRRRR Google is doing shit everyone else is doing
>HURRRRRR Google is bad
Meanwhile half of you faggots are sucking off Elon Musk for his nth failed rocket launch.

>>61400593
As far as cloud storage is concerned, any service is viable if you're not storing personal data (photos and videos, etc.) on it. And that's exactly what it should be used for - a backup solution for books, music, movies, etc.

>>61400314
you clearly never drive outside of the city. the fact that they can go from interstate bros out in the country helping each other out from getting speeding tickets to piloting such a large mass in cities full of entitled little greedy pieces of shit like you is amazing

Google so desperately wants to be Bell Labs

>>61400625
>We've known Google gets down like this for a while, I haven't seen the masses move away from Gmail for thier alternatives
>Why? Because they suck
It's because most people would rather not think about anything on any substantial level, would rather appeal to futility and fear change out of spite. And I'm sure supporting unethical practices of tech companies no matter what is going to serve us very well.

this whole self driving bullshit come to think of it, youd think police ubions would lobby against it because who would there be to give tickets to?

>>61394770
>self driving cars
Are a terrible safety hazard, log everywhere you go, can allow control of where you go, and generally so far use technology similar to radar. Which is a pulsed microwave field, and therefore potentiates cancer, brain damage, infertility, immune dysfunction, and digestive problems.

>anti aging research
Is useless when we're not even willing to make basic economic and lifestyle changes that would slow aging already. Lifespan is not what people's value system is about, no matter what they say. All the underlying discoveries will possibly be kept to themselves and misused to some extent.

>smart cities
>smart home
For a dumb species that can't stop being dumb. Where have I seen this play out before...

Also, smart generally implies digital wireless transmission, which right now, is primarily pulsed microwave fields. Which are harmful and probably the last big mistake our species will be allowed to make.

No, what Google is really about is creating God. A god for our godless world. And maybe that's not so bad, maybe it is. Probably it is. With enough information and systems you control, you can control every aspect of human behavior with negligible error.

>>61400647
We should all strive for improvement.

>>61400566
Yeah, I manage my companies G apps for business.
I'm well aware of their paid services
It's not like they'll want to let some company make money using Google apps and not want a cut.
Would you let someone host a profitable yard sale in your garage and not expect some compensation?


On a personal side I've never paid for mail service, ever
What does "part of their internet provision" mean?
If you mean what I think you do, then couldn't you consider every website "paid" as part of the provision?

>>61400667
which would require letting go of the stranglehold technology has on our lives now

>>61394770
If Alphabet has so much money they can safely fuck around with projects that will likely fail/have no future

What makes you think they can't afford hiring a team of 100 scientists to do research on surveillance neural network? Open your fucking eyes

>>61400543
>Why do you feel that way?
Because with enough information you can engineer people and bias, if not eventually outright control, outcomes. That sort of control structure has a long and incredibly consistent history of negative outcomes. Applied crowd psychology built the world, and the world is trash.

>>61400647
Except those people had visionaries and programmers concerned with changing computing for the better, without necessarily being about making a quick buck and exploiting and data mining their users.
https://youtu.be/tc4ROCJYbm0
If this isn't inspiring, I don't know what is.

>>61399842
Male mosquitos are essential to pollination. It's the females that suck the life out of you, just like female humans.

>>61400693
google as i see it is more an intrusion into our lives rather than beneficial. using a paper map should be the standard stipl because itd be rare for someone driving to open a map up and use it while driving whereas people distract theirselves using google maps for example while driving then google tells us we need self driving cars because were crashing into other people when were using google maps while driving

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OK, listen up. Google doesn't give a shit about self-driving cars, anti-aging research, smart cities, or smart homes. The ONLY reason they "invest" into these areas is so they can prove to the FTC that they are not a monopoly in one area (search engine). That's it. They don't give a shit about all of it. They do it out of necessity, not kindness. Corporations are there for one purpose and one purpose only—to make money for their shareholders.

>>61400686
>>Why do you feel that way?
I'm the one you originally replied to and I'd recommend watching these videos for a start:
https://youtu.be/Ag1AKIl_2GM
https://youtu.be/0hLjuVyIIrs

>>61400749
they should dump money into building solar farms to ubdercut power monopolies rates before some chinese company gets the idea and does it

>>61400775
Can't.

>>61400749
While I haven't researched all of your claims and would certainly like a source for them, what you just described isn't an unknown concept. It's been perpetuated by Milton Friedman in the 80's and it's wasn't unreasonable, although unethical, not then and especially not now for a company as big as Google.
>There is one and only one social responsibility of business–to use it resources and engage in activities designed to increase its profits so long as it stays within the rules of the game, which is to say, engages in open and free competition without deception or fraud.

>>61400789
Great. Why did you bother responding if you were not interested in my answer?

>>61400836
Because I can't, and I forced you to know that I can't. Which makes me feel amused, full, and powerful.

Unless you know how to iteratively strip associative links between memories, fragment and scrub certain clusters, and fully purge the working and short term memory subsystems, you're stuck knowing. Now you know. And until you forget, which will take even longer now, you will continue to know.

>>61400865
most jej

>>61400865
I hope you at least had the decency to sage.

>>61400897
I did not.

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>>61400897
>>61400902
I bet he did and is lying on purpose.

>>61400654
I'm not saying we should support unethical practices. In fact I'm saying quite the opposite.

If you don't like what Google is doing, then don't give then your business.


My point is that there are alternatives out there, they just aren't as good as what Google offers.
Because they aren't as good, people don't use them.

People choose to use Google services 100% voluntarily but want to cry about how Google chooses to conduct business

It makes no sense to me, if you hated the way McDonald's cooked their burgers would you go and buy a big Mac everyday then get online to talk about how much they suck? No.

>>61400693
I like to think of it like this.

Google is Bell Labs if everyone who worked at Bell Labs had a bachelors instead of a PhD.

>>61400941
And were overgrown children groomed to be code monkeys, then submerged in a degenerate culture.

>>61400936
the problem is people are dumb and think google is never wrong. if google tells them to do something through gps they follow the instructions to the t. its making society even stupider than it already was

>>61398602
underrated post

>>61400966
That sucks for those people, there has always been a large portion of society that's straight stupid.
It's hardly my (or your) responsibility to take care of them.

There's always been Kings and there's always been peasants
Can't do much for the peasants, they don't want much more than simplicity and an easy life

>>61401004
yes but in the past technology was well thought out as was most other things consumer goods etc. theres no foresight into anything now just half ass it to make as much money as possible then fix it when the govt or consumers threaten to sue. smartphones shouldnt even be operable besides the phone features in a moving car. the tech is there but the software/hw isnt "smart" that way people can at least pull off the road if they want to text check a map etc

damn just realized thats a great idea to patent oh well greater good

>105 postsa nd 9 image replies omitted

Consider suicide, all of you.

>>61401089
Y?

>>61400267
>soap is just data mining our hair!
>clothes are just data mining the molecules on our skin!

>>61401052
Back then people paid for their consumer goods, these days we're all about paying as little as possible for everything.

You get what you pay for.
If your using a free service then don't expect much.

If you want better, then work for better

>>61401207
thats more to do with wages not keeping up with inflation but yes people are cheap by nature

>>61401253
I feel like it's more to do with people wanting to work less but get more

>>61401148
This is a strawman if I ever saw one.

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>>61401288
Feelings, nothing more than feelings.

>>61401294
>fire is just data mining the air you breathe!

>>61401294
Do people even use straw men anymore? There's better ways to keep birds away and better targets to practice combat on. I doubt you've ever saw one.

>>61401317
DRIVIN BY THE COUNTRY SIDE

>>61394770
Either you're a shill or a very naive retard.

>>61400936
>My point is that there are alternatives out there, they just aren't as good as what Google offers.
>Because they aren't as good, people don't use them.
Again, not encouraging people to use alternatives does nothing to make those alternatives more viable and powerful. As most alternatives to Google's services are open source and in many cases FOSS, more users grant more chances of additional developers being potential users and in the end contributing to development. Richard Stallman's computing isn't reasonable for most people, although to an extent possible and definitely not futile.

>>61401302
>>61401302
I highly doubt we work more than the average person did in the 1970's

Perhaps we are more productive due to advances in technology that make us more efficient.
It could be the fact we have more time to devote towards productive habits due to the fact we aren't all put working farms or churning our own butter

>>61401052
>yes but in the past technology was well thought out
>theres no foresight into anything now
nigger you don't have to look further than the x86 CPU in your computer to shit all over your little nostalgia trip, it's a horrible mess because noone could foresee that maybe in the future people would have more than 640K of memory

>>61401349
I'm literally repeating over and over that if people don't like Google they should move on

How am I not encouraging people to use alternatives?

I just have absolutely no sympathy for the people who refuse to leave the Google platform but want to bitch about it

>>61401362
are you retarded? seriously. a computer woupd end up being the size of bedrooms for the kind of memory capacity we see now

Google actually stopped scanning email for ads.

>>61401395
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-23/google-will-stop-reading-your-emails-for-gmail-ads

>>61401381
>How am I not encouraging people to use alternatives?
>>61400475
>Without Google, the internet (as is) sucks
>>61400625
>I named a few alternatives too, if you noticed
>My point was they all suck.

>>61401407
Is it my fault they suck?
Should I lie and say they're awesome and we should all switch over asap?

Look I'm not saying you shouldn't use alternatives, you just have to face the fact that they aren't as good as Google

That's the whole point of this
If you want to use the superior service you have to play by Google's rules

If you want out, there's options out there.
They aren't good options, but they offer privacy (maybe, probably not)

>>61394770
self driving cars, "smart cities" and "smart homes" are evil.

>>61400116
Is this bait or is this Jerome person serious?

>>61401393
your post has literally nothing to do with the design of the x86 architecture which was/is a convoluted hacked together mess because some jerkoff in the 70s decided that nobody would ever have more than 640k of memory, demonstrating a severe lack of foresight and planning

>>61401598
>t. waah i didnt come up with it first so its not good enough
nobody cares elliott

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>>61394770
>space travel, nuclear research, efficient cities, beautiful new homes for everyone
>b-but they can listen to my phone calls they are evil
get a fucking grip

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>>61394770
>largest submarines ever, anti aging research, underground cities, air ships
>b-but they disagree with being jewish they are evil
get a fucking grip

>>61394770
>self driving cars

Meme. Google is not an automobile manufacturer

>anti aging research

Any person trying to cure cancer is already researching anti aging at the same time because shit is connected

>smart cities

It's called Singapore and it's ruled with an iron fist

>smart home

Anybody who can clap their hands and turn off the lights already has a smart house

>>61399842
Small bird food faggit.

>Tfw you were born 10-20 years too early to witness immortality
Sucks. Still, based Google.

>>61400202
>if you reject some technology it automatically means you reject all of it
wow nice logic here dumbfuck