/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>61393531
Ah, the regular Poozen shill thread.

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>>61393548
Brian pls

>>61393548
>7700k, xeons in the OP
>ryzen shill
??????

http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-24MP59G-P-gaming-monitor
Is this good? Programming\Casual gaming, also poorfag, so not more than 150$.

http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-25UM58-P-ultrawide-monitor
Although this one looks so sexy, especially with some tiling window manager like i3. Also is it worth to pay twice the price of 25" to get 29"?
What do i get?

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>buy 1080Ti
>isn't stable above 1949Mhz no matter what
>sure fine whatever
>it usually runs at 1.05v
>undervolt to 1.012v
>still stable
>3C cooler

Why is this allowed?

>>61393640
>isn't stable above 1949Mhz no matter what
Damn you got destroyed by the silicon lottery.

Here I thought my 1080 Ti was bad because it struggled to stay at 2050MHz

>>61393602
There's one guy that believes any intel in the OP is intel shilling and another that believes that people ranking the R5s above i5s is shilling
You'll notice the 2 - 3 last threads went extremely well without any shitposting as both of those were on a vacation

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>>61393531
replacing an ivy bridge i5 on a p67. No money/need for a new platform yet. I was considering either a 2700k or a 3770 non k, both can be purchased for around $120-150.
>inb4 tim and locked sku
I wont be doing any serious overclocking and a 3770 can do 4.2 on an oc chipset. Only reason I am even considering the ivy is I don't want a sandy K that has been heavily overvolted it's entire life, and is a degraded turd they are offloading. Thoughts on this /g/ents?

P.S. thanx miners

>>61393670
It'll happily sit at 2000Mhz when it's a bit cooler, but then it warms up and gayPU boost is like "we're getting a bit hot here :^)" and downclocks it. When I try to set max voltage, max power target and shit and try to set 2000Mhz myself, it just crashes eventually.

What score do you get in Unigine Valley 1440p at all highest? I think I get 99.6FPS, but I'll have to re-run it to check.

>>61393684
we really need /gg/, with stricter rules about shitposting, those niggers shitting up threads with people asking for help are really bad

is the 212+ evo still good?

>>61393688
It's only worth the money if you also sell your i5.

I need a good budget CPU cooler that wont jew me out in the long run.
The stock one is starting to get me really bad temps, i cant even play Factorio without the CPU going full Shoah.

>>61393737
Dunno I'm too lazy to install Unigine but here's my Timespy run http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/20980171?

>>61393688
>replacing an ivy bridge i5 on a p67
Why? You mean it's dead?

>>61393670
>>61393737
The only thing holding back a 1080ti is the GPU boost. If you can give it enough thermal room, it will literally reach 2100mhz easily no problem. Overclocking is pointless with GPU boost 3.0. But on the flip side GPU boost hard limits how fast the card can go and above a certain limit, it will refuse to give the card more power.

>>61393760
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

>>61393774
>DX12 only
Fak, I don't have Windows 10 installed right now.

Can you run whatever type of Firestrike you have?

>>61393789
Hmm, that is annoying because I like to run my card as close to 90C as I can get it just for noise reasons.

I fucking hate GPU Boost, just let me set a voltage and a clock speed instead of fucking my shit up every 10C temperature increase.

>>61393838
Run super position. I can give you my score to compare with if you want to.

What is a good AM4 motherboard and 16GB of 3000+MHz memory for under $250?
It seems wrong to buy a CPU (R5 1600) for less than its required components.
Ultimately, I was thinking of a budget like this:
>$210 CPU
>$125 Motherboard
>$125 Memory
>$300 GPU
>$090 PSU
>$090 Case
For a total of roughly $1000 when all is said and done, but it seems it is hard to fit those two components into such a budget.
Is my budget too far fetched?
What should I do to balance this out?

For system panel connectors, how do I tell which is + and which is -?

Seriously confused here as only my power led's are actually marked. Wires are also the same colour

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>>61393759
I am selling the i5 as soon as I verify the replacement functions well. I won't be switching to DDR4 until ~2019. Other than QHD gaming, the current configuration would be sufficient for my normalfag tasks until it dies.

>>61393777
No, its a 3550 that is +4 multi +bclk to 4ghz but I am in need of some extra threads for some of the newer games. It would be nice for audio and video encoding too I'm sure

>>61393888
Your budget looks very standard, don't know what you're talking about.
Go for gigabyte or AsRock for a good B350 mobo.

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Rate my new setup that I just ordered

Intel Core i7-7700K
MSI GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING X 8GB
ASRock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming K4
Corsair Vengeance LPX, DDR4, 2x8GB, 3000MHz
SilentiumPC Grandis 2 XE1436
EVGA 600B 600W
SilentiumPC Gladius M35 Case

>>61393955
delid/10

>>61393965
I'm scared of doing that anon

>>61393942
Actually, I think it has some bigger issues, such as forgetting to include any storage.

>>61393983
you should prepare to do it anyway

I am still having difficulty installing Linux on my system. Ryzen with a Gigabyte motherboard.

This appears to be a known problem, and the solution appears to be "wait." So I guess I'll just pout.

>>61393983
then you shouldn't knowingly buy housefires

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Reposting again, anon recommended I swap to B350 motherboard and I'll probably drop down to a 650 watt power supply
Does B350 support 3200 mhz DDR4 ram? Support for it is 2600 so I'm not sure
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/FH37jc

>>61393983
You shouldn't be, everything will run much cooler :^)

>>61394028
Try using a proper server OS like BSD.

>>61393864
Installed it but I get a DLL error, nevermind.

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>>61393983
Then you shouldn't have gone Intel.

question. Anyone have an idea of what Ryzen 3 pricing will be like?

>>61393908
The one with the arrow is the positive, unless you mean the motherboard headers, in which case it'll be listed in the manual.

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>>61394045
its scary anon its scary!!!!

What 3tb hdd should I buy anon?

>>61393888
Just get a B350 board. Gigabyte Gaming 3 is pretty okay apart of some hot VRMs, which can easily be fixed by having decent airflow. They're also up to date with the bios version supporting AGESA 1.0.0.6. For RAM i'd seriously advise you to spend some more and get Flare-X s which are pretty much AMD binned to run 3200Mhz. For me they ran 3200Mhz with a straight out of the box bios just on a XMP profile.

It'll cost you $70-$80 bucks more for mere ram, but you'll be glad you did.

>>61394044
You going for them aesthetics lad? Otherwise I just dont understand why youd spend so much dosh.

>>61394069
Under $200 dollaroonees

>>61394044
This is a mess.

>buying windows
>AIO liquid cooler
>microscopic SSD in a 3k rig
etc

>>61394074
>umaru
go away reddit

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IF YOU ARE BUILDING FROM SCRATCH

Just consider getting one of these

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/inspiron-5675-gaming-desktop

or Alienware Aurora, they are cheaper than building custom because of the miner inflation and still provide customization and mounting for water cooling (or even include water cooling by default).

They offer Ryzen 5 for a good alternative against i5 like said in the OP. Also these don't have a silly window which is nice.

>>61394114
im not from reeeedit!

>>61394094
well no shit Sherlock. The Ryzen 5 1400 is $160, and it slots below that. fuck off Captain Obvious

>>61393760
Deepcool Gammaxx 400

>>61394126
I looked at that. The Ryzen 5 is a 1400, not the value oriented 1600. The Ryzen 7 option is a 1700, which I have no problem with. For the price of that, I can build a better system using a 1600.

If the Ryzen 5 they offered was a 1600 instead of a 1400, I'd recommend it too.

>>61394146
not him but ask a stupid question you get a stupid answer

>>61394173
>>61394126
Has anyone yet tried to get one of the AM4 apus and replace it with a Ryzen? I forgot why I was interested in this, just that it was a bit of a topic a few weeks ago.

>>61394084
No, honestly I don't mean to come off as an ass but I've always had a shitty PC so I got a job that pays okay-ish and busted my ass off to save
I'm going all out but I want to make sure it runs cool and quiet so I'm willing to spend more than I should for something that lasts long
>>61394107
I won't pirate windows, more hassle than it should
Can you please highlight what is wrong with the cooler? I'm not experienced and don't know what AIO stands for
The SSD is small but I didn't think that'd be a problem, ultimately even if the parts are ridiculously spaced out in the huge tower I'm okay with that since they'll transfer less heat to each other

Please give me actual advice, not asking because I'm lazy to do research but I'm really behind on the times right now.

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I need some help /g/ents. I need a new power supply because the current one is extremely noisy and gets hot. I could buy a new fan but the power supply is old and I'd rather replace it. I need help with wattage selection. I have no idea who many watts I need.

I have and older i5 4690k CPU, GTX 1060, SSD, HDD, and DVD burner that I rarely use. I also have 120mm 3 fans.

How many watt power supply would I need? Thanks!

>>61394044
Get out before I change it again
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/skhbgL

>>61394200
haha thanks anon
>>61394146
get rekt kid

>>61394212
Download speccy, screenshot it and post it here and I'll tell you. I may even provide you a link for the best one :^)

>>61394210
>'more hassle than it should'
>download ISO from microsoft site
>install
>download das loader
>run
>restart
>done

>AIO
All in one liquid cooler. They are good on paper, but in the real world they are shit because they whine, nonstop because they have to pump water constantly. A standard tower cooler will cool just as well, but be able to run completely silently at idle. I guess if you don't care about noise they look better.

>The SSD is small
I mean capacity, lmao. An SSD isn't going to have any trouble heat wise unless you put it on a GPU backplate or something. 260GB or whatever it is, is pretty small by todays standards if you're using it for gaymen. Most games are like 50GB these days.

>>61394216
I'd drop the 1600x for a regular 1600 or a ryzen 7 desu

Uh guys, my video card (geforce 1070) won't fit in the first pci slot because of my heatsink

am i fucked

>>61394270
>because of my heatsink
Literally how?

Are you running something idiotic like an mATX board and an NH-D15? But yes, you're fucked.

>>61394270
how? can you flip the heatsink around to fit the gpu?

>>61393916
Even a 3550 non-K should be able to "OC" up to it's turbo clock. At least that is the case on one of my systems, I can set the base multiplier to 39 resulting in 3.9Ghz on my 3770 non-k on all cores at 100% load. This is on a Gigabyte Z77 board.

rate my build /g/entoomen, I'm about to pull the trigger on this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mr37jc

>>61393965

>>61394269
Yeah that would be a good idea. And the CPU cooler I would get rid of and just use the stock Ryzen. If you really want a liquid one, go for the Corsair H100i v2,

I didnt check your case but just make sure its got somewhere to mount the radiatior if youre going for liquid cooling.

>>61394293
Not bad, but a Mini GPU will look pretty gay in a windowed ATX case.

Also get the 1600X because it's more Xtreme, the X makes it faster.

>>61394107
It's 3k in maple syrup tokens though

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>>61394126
Standard guts for reference

>>61394173
This is about the graphics card
And they had a sale on the 11th recently bringing the price of all of them down $150, you never buy MSRP on Dell.com obviously

>>61394327
>92mm fans
Disgusting.

>>61394313
Yeah, I'm just getting a 1050ti for now because fucking miners. I'm getting the 1600 for the free cooler, and it'll overclock to the same frequency probably.

>>61394312
It should also be noted that that hyper 212, along with a lot of air coolers, does not support am4 out of the box. You need to order a separate part. Can't recall if it's a bracket or a back plate

>>61394270
Depending on your motherboard you might as well use the lower one.

>>61394351
Think coolermaster is on top of that, just drop them an email and they send it too you as is my understanding. But I mean if you're going for 1600 just keep the stock cooler, it just werks.

>>61394285
Never mind, I'm retarded. Am using an NH-D15 and it blocks the first express slot, though it wouldn't work until I realized it used the second and third slots

Was about to kill myself desu

>>61394267
Ah I see. I could buy a bigger SSD, really I wasn't thinking of using it on anything else aside from mandatory startup/windows installations and an 80gb folder of Skyrim with mods
Microsoft gives free windows 10 or something? Why would they allow the iso download through their site? Very confused but alright, that'll save me $100

Shit, I thought the kraken cooler wouldn't have that much sound based on user reviews...I care about noise and efficiency, this is where my retardation comes in. I've just read a lot aboot AMD Cpus running hotter than intel (not the case now since they're soldered while intel isn't) so I wanted to go all out on heat reduction. What can you recommend as a decent margin with heat/sound management for the rig? I've updated it a bit based on Anon's recommendation here:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/skhbgL
I would like to stick with gold+ certified PSU and 16gb of ram, the CPU cooler is whatever you guys think is best for heat management and sound during stressing

Here's what I have so far:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9jfQbj

>>61394390
That's what you get for using meme cpu coolers.

>>61394393
Forgot to quote Mr. Anonymoose here
>>61394216

>>61394344
It's optimized for sound retard, the shitty stock thermaltake fans (or maybe you bought the $16 Noctuas, who knows) are most likely louder than these
At least it's known that the stock AMD coolers run quieter than even Hyper 212 EVO

>>61394393
Here, I changed your case for something that has sound dampening, that along with the cooler and psu change should get you a nice quiet machine, you wont have to add or change any fans either.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/sj8DHN

>>61394393
I wouldn't worry about heat management, it's not really a problem in ATX cases unless you're a retard and try and run an SLI setup in a passive case or something. So long as you have some non-shit fans running around 800RPM you're golden.

>https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9jfQbj
Drop the EVGA 1080Ti for either the Gigabyte Aorus, Asus Strix or MSI Gaming, it doesn't really matter which, just whatever is cheaper. All of them are better than the EVGA card in temps of noise and temps. You also really don't need a DVD drive, I can't even think of the last time I used one, maybe 7 years ago.

If you really care about noise you might want a bigger PSU. The bigger the wattage, the easier a time it will have driving your system under load, the slower it's fan will spin (if at all). This is kind of autism tier though tbqh, unless the rest of your system is dead silent it'll probably not make much difference. I have the EVGA T2 1000W powering a 1080Ti Aorus and my PSU still isn't fully passive under load annoyingly.

For the CPU cooler just get the Phanteks PCHwhateverthefuckitscalled, or the NHD15, they are both about as good as eachother but the Phanteks one looks a lot less gay, your choice. Both of them will be inaudible over your GPU regardless of how high you OC your CPU.

Picking between Intel VS AMD based on their heat output is pretty pointless, your GPU will be the dominant heat and noise contributor.

>>61394443
>92mm
>sound optimised
Yeah nah son, unless they are 140mm get out of my face.

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>>61394290
>3770 on Z77
you can do x43 all cores if you have MCE and the latest bios, x41 all cores, x43 2 cores if it has no MCE,
Set base multi to auto and enable turbo, speed step and C1E, adjust turbo clock. mine runs x39/x41 with 103.7 bclk for 4044/4252mhz +.010 offset 50% llc or ~1.2v manual. All c states enabled. I plan on shooting for 4.2/4.4 on the 3770 or around 4.5 on a 2700k, if my cooler can handle it.

>>61394285
>Literally how?

Many tower coolers will block the first PCIe slot. That's why there's an 1x slot first on most mainstream boards to act as a spacer. HEDT ones don't generally have the spacer, so tower coolers can be a problem. Though it doesn't really matter so much, as those boards also have multiple 16x-wired slots anyway.

how tough are power supply cables

do i have to worry about twisting them too much

>>61394646
As long as you dont rip them they'll be good to go.

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>>61393531
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Herplooza/saved/KpsqsY

This is the best PC Build you can ever get prove me wrong

>Pro tip: you can't

>>61394542
>>61394531
Thanks a lot guys. For the case in https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/sj8DHN
There won't be a cooling issue for GPU and PSU heat management? The previous one (although massive) had cool air going through the front and hot air blowing out
Though that case would have a lot of sound
Gonna swap out the EVGA for a Gigabyte or MSI, I'll keep the dvd drive just in case since $20 for one is a good deal
Power supply I might just push to 750 and leave it at that, shame that even at 1000 it doesn't make a big difference

Anything I can do for GPU cooling so it doesn't jet engine my room?

I know nothing about how to build a pc, how likely am I to fuck everything up if I build it myself?

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>>61394699
>Clorox Bleach Regular, 64 oz

>>61394699
>4gb of ram

>>61394715
>There won't be a cooling issue for GPU and PSU heat management?
Not at all, it's only really a consideration with multi-card setups. I can cover my intakes and roof exhausts with shirts and my temperatures barely go up like 5-10C.

>Though that case would have a lot of sound
>Anything I can do for GPU cooling so it doesn't jet engine my room?
I think you're overestimating how loud it will be. I can't speak for the fans, but any fan you can get to spin down to 500rpm or less should be literally silent unless you put your head right next to it. There's not much reason to have them spin above 800rpm under load, which again is extremely quiet.

A good CPU cooler like an NHD15 or similar, you wont be able to hear over your graphics card. GPU's aren't really loud like they used to be so long as you avoid reference cards, I would have no problem falling asleep at my desk with a benchmark program running.

I think once you put it together you'll be surprised.

>>61394724
Depends how many chromosomes you have.

>>61394610
Nice I don't plan to fuck with it because it's just a render offload system though. Most likely it'll be replaced with a Zen2 chip at some point next year but we'll see.

>>61394724
remember to delid everything when you get it :^)

>>61394790
Cheers again, have a good day m8

Retard here.

Accidentally knocked over a 1920x1080 monitor I've had for a while when setting it up in my new place. It's irrevocably destroyed.

Anyway, in buying a replacement, if I have a costco membership, is that a good place for a new monitor?

LG 24MP60VQ 23.8" Full HD IPS Monitor
Dell SE2717HR 27" Full HD Monitor

are the two I'm looking at

Not sure how much the former costs, but the latter is $170. Are those good deals?

Forgive my retardation. Very new to building a PC because I've been too poor to until now (which makes breaking the monitor really hurt).

>>61394968
You can get an xf240h for $150 at costco. It's 1080p and 144hz but it's a TN screen.

So I built my PC and it just kept on rebooting. I took it to it's most basic parts, and it still keeps rebooting.

I've checked every part and it all seems fine, the only thing that isn't seems to be the CPU fans, which for some reason won't spin together, but if I plug them in separately on the individual three prong they do.

Do I need the CPU fan to be attached with four prongs for it to be properly recognised? Could that be my problem?

>>61395033
CPU fans wouldn't cause your problem (unless your BIOS has some kind of retarded overtemperature protection). You could have roasted and toasted your motherboard by plugging multiple fans into one header, but thats pretty unlikely unless you're running delta fans or some shit.

What's the parts list? Need more info. Your issue could be anything from dead RAM, dead mobo, dead PSU, BIOS issues etc.

http://a.co/gklnhUV

Look any good?

I just want muh glass because acrylic sucks

>>61395086
I don't have the list to hand. It's a gigabyte motherboard, intel CPU, two Corsair 8gb of RAM, and a Corsair power supply.

The motherboard lights up and seems to start doing it's thing, but then reboots as if something's failing a check. I'm really frustrated with it because I just can't identify what the problem is, everything seems to be fine.

>>61395138
Yeah, Intel what? And no dedicated graphics card?

Could be something as simple as you didn't check to see if your processor had integrated graphics before you bought it :^)

>>61395182
Oh, yeah, I've got a graphics card as well, it doesn't boot with that either.

>>61395201
It doesn't boot with that, and you're plugging your display into the GPU itself?

What Intel CPU specifically?

Build finished, I've decided on a different CPU cooler than the NHD15...since the case will be mid-range and block out most of the sound, I think I've got a comfortable setup for OCing and maxing 1440p games for the next 3 years I hope

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZsJJ9W

Thank you to everyone that helped this leaf

>>61395222
Intel Core i5-7600K

It's a decent CPU and it's new, so I don't see why there'd be a problem with it

>>61395223
Google 'water cooling pump noise' so you know what you're getting into.

>>61395270
Just because it's new doesn't mean it can't be toast. Was asking the specific model because some Intel processors don't have integrated graphics, which would explain your lack of display without a GPU.

If it were me I'd put my money on a RAM issue, but it could be any number of things and since you (presumably) don't have parts you can swap in and out to see what is dead, you're in for a bunch of fun over the next few days my friend.

>>61395299
At this point the only thing I can come up with as faulty is the fan, but it's old anyway so I'm happy to replace it. I'll just keep tinkering and hope.

Worst case scenario I'll take it to a computer place where they can better test the various parts.

>>61395332
A faulty fan has nothing to do with a computer not POSTing.

best air cooler for ocing 7600k. dont want to touch water cooling desu

>>61395355
I was under the impression that one of the pre boot checks is for a CPU fan.

>>61395358
Any you like the look of + a delid

>>61395031
Thanks a lot for this, my friend! Will take a look at it today.

>>61395375
Nope, what if you run everything off your PSU power? Your mobo isn't going to spit it's dummy out over that.

What operating system should one get for a new gaming PC?

Should one explore dual-booting if he also wishes to learn how to use a Linux distro as well?

>>61394730
Easy I could have gone with a 5-gallon but Amazon can only give me a 64 Oz version

>>61394749
The 4g of ram is to be used for the operating system

>>61395455
Windows 7 as your main OS and Windows 10 on a dual-boot for DX12.

>>61395455
>What operating system should one get for a new gaming PC?
Currently, a "gaming" PC all but necessitates having a Windows installation.

>Should one explore dual-booting if he also wishes to learn how to use a Linux distro as well?
Given the above, yes. The real question is whether you want to partition a disk or buy a second one for the other OS. An optimal *nix install will have the system installed on a small / cheap SSD (128GB or less) and another disk who's mount point is /home.

my mobo might be fucked.

tried what should have been a stable overclock (1700 to 3.8 on 1.3 volts) and windows wouldn't boot. went into the bios to restore defaults, and now it won't post. tried clearing the cmos, resetting the cpu, running with one stick of ram and the bare essentials in terms of connected peripherals. Nothing works. The cpu fan is spinning up like the voltage is still set to 1.3 volts, but mouse, keyboard, and hard drive LEDs are all dark.

Is there any obscure fix i haven't attempted yet, or should I try to get the board returned.

>>61395537
Disconnect everything but motherboard, CPU, 1 stick of ram to narrow down the problem. It should be a box connected to the wall. No peripherals.

>>61395537
I hope you didn't reset the CMOS while it was powered on, anon.

>>61394212
450w. You'll likely never use about 320w with that setup.

>>61395503
>>61395509
Appreciated; thank you.

>>61395605
So if I'm building a r7 1700 / 1060 build with bare minimal overclocking then a 550w evga supernova g2 ought to cut it? I think the difference between that and the 650 model is ~$20, which is worth the consideration to be honest. I just want a high quality PSU. That said, I can't find much knowledge on the g3s and everyone seems to gush over the g2 supernovas.

Is the stock cooler on the R5 1600 any good? I haven't used a stock cooler in years.

>>61395455
Windows XP

>>61395709
Both the G2 and G3 are excellent units. They are not the only excellent units. It's fine to take one.

My first build is finally up and running. Installing Windows right now

This feeling is sublime. I am tired as fuck

>>61394968
>nigga didn't invest in a VESA mount
Your fault senpai

>>61395721
Yes, pretty quiet too. Can handle a slight overclock.

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>>61393531

Someone should add the Intel 6800k or 6850k option in the next thread, only if discounted since I've seen them as low as 300usd and these far better than the 7700k.

I would recommend them instead of the 7700k if you can find a good deal or in big budgets, also for 144Hz.

what the best mobo/processor from a price/value perspective

Thinking about doing a cheapshit build for Destiny 2. Would a G4560 paired with a GTX 1050 ti play that at least to console specs?

>>61396738

Bentium. Anything that focuses on price vs performance is inherently skewed to the low end of things. A 7700k might be 3 times the cost of the bentium but its not 3 times the performance.

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w-w-waiting for v-vega

>>61396639
Broadwell-E should be there simply because no matter how expensive it is, it fill a niche that isn't currently being filled. Ryzen 7 is not a drop in replacement, it has dual channel and 16 PCI-e lanes. Yes, Threadripper will compete with HEDT and have more PCI-e lanes and quad channel memory, but it's not out yet. I find it odd that the OP is recommending Threadripper despite no reviews out yet. Also if do semi-professional work on your computer investing in a brnad new platform is generally risky. Broadwell-E is older and more stable at this point. Look at all the launch issues Skylake-X is having, it's possible Threadripper might have some random issue as well, whether it be a shitty BIOS like the Ryzen launch or VRM problem in Prime95 like SLX.

>>61396804
No, I don't think anything lower from an i5 would run it decently, you would be better off just buying the Console. Unless you already have other parts like monitor, mouse, keyboard, case?.

>>61393955

I would have went with a Ryzen 1700/1700x and a 1080ti, but other than that nice build.

>>61396900
If you're doing professional work you're not coming to this thread for advice, and if you are, consider suicide as a $300 option.

>>61396804
Probably not, it's going to be very CPU-heavy judging by the fact that even the PS4 Pro can't run it at 60FPS. The Pentium G4560 is only slightly better than AMD's highest end quad core APU, and the Jaguar is an 8 core APU.

>>61396804
until we have actual tested shit nobody really knows.

1080tis cant run it at any higher then medium at 4k 60FPS

>>61396899
a-any day now!!

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Anyone know how likely it is that a power supply fails out of the box?
I got myself an EVGA Supernova 650 GS, and it's not working. Thought it was the motherboard, but then I tried the paperclip test and the fan did nothing.
Is there some way I could have fucked up the PSU, or was it just DOA? Didn't drop it or anything like that.

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So /g/, I'm looking to build a mid-high range pc in the next couple of months.
Tought about this build, some recvomendations?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CPL8BP

>>61396928
I just don't think Threadripper should be in the OP given there's very few known results except leaks and no one has any clue if there will be launch issues or not. It really does seem like shilling, the type of people interested in a 16 core CPU aren't the ones who would go out and preorder a brand new HEDT CPU on rumors and leaks.

>>61397108
I see your point but honestly I think most people ignore the OP anyway.

>>61393531
hey! I still have and am still using that cpu cooler. Its awesome and the main reason im looking at gigabyte for an am4 board.

>>61394126
This looks... pretty good...

So ugly though! How much could I sell the 1060 for if I want to get a bit of an upgrade?

>>61396936
How about a R7 1700 with a 1050 ti as a placeholder until I get a better GPU?

Does an SSD do anything other than provide faster loading times? Is it even worth buying one?

>>61397084
Get an SSD. As in OP, spend as much on an SSD right now that you would for all storage, then buy an hdd later.

It would be in your best interest not to buy the gpu right now. Look at the price chart. Not sure when it will go down, but you could probably save a couple hundred bucks and maybe use it for more ram.

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I'm sure GPU prices will regress to the mean any day now.

>>61397273
Faster read/write speed is important in certain applications like content creation and CAD. It let's you save and load massive amounts of data for large projects and simulations very quickly.

>>61394126
someone give me a reason not to buy this

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>>61397289
>tfw finally saved up for a new gpu
>tfw cucked by cryptojews
>tfw stuck with my 750 Ti

>>61397357
It's a Dell®

>>61397362
My 760 and I know your feel.

>>61397371
Does that mean anything besides it being ugly?

>>61396928
I don't know why people here care so much about the finances of idiots asking 2k or 3k builds, there's no reason why they shouldn't go Broadwell-E

300usd for a shutterless, housefire-less and deprecated-less 7700k isn't suicide either, most people will find a deal like that though.

>>61397416
correction, I meant most people WONT find a deal like that.

>>61397267
You should rather get an R5 1600 or a discounted it 6600k/7600k , plus any GTX 1060 or RX 470 equivalent.

However it would be even better if you wait the game release for benchmarks.

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>>61397289
>tfw had almost enough monies to build my first PC
>tfw have to wait even longer because of GPU prices
I guess I'll get my own birthday present later this year, haha. At least this way I can get """better""" parts when I make my order.

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>>61397599
Life is pain

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God I fucking hate cryptoniggers, just when I had the money to upgrade my 7 year old PC.

Is a b350 perfect for multi tasking and moderate gaming? Also is m.2 worth it or just get a SATA SSD? im still running on an old WD Raptor x 150gb for OS. any tips in burger land would be appreciated.

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>>61397655
Agreed, Anon.
>>61397793
Also this.

>>61397819
B350 is fine unless you are really going all out and want tons of peripherals/to squeeze the last 100Mhz from your CPU.
NVME is replacing SATA. Nice to have if you can fit it in, but not essential.

>>61397956
thanks thats what i was thinking. can windows 7 boot from NVME storage im still hellbent on staying on 7 for now.

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So I have an AMD apu A8-7650K, what's a good ram i can get to reach its full potential?

Any PSU recommendations for a build with an estimated wattage of 225W?

>>61398028
Windows 7 doesn't natively support NVME I believe. But there was something patched in later. It can be kind of a mess, but may be doable with some elbow grease.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2990941/update-to-add-native-driver-support-in-nvm-express-in-windows-7-and-wi#bookmark-prerequisite

Anything you guys think I could change?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/py6G4C

getting clock watchdog timeout on new build

should i just kill myself

>>61398216
Yes. Your SSD is lacking DRAM.
This is a substantially better model.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mPgPxr/a-data-ultimate-su800-128gb-25-solid-state-drive-asu800ss-128gt-c

>>61398246
Thanks man!

>buy a hhd, wait a week for it to arrive
>no sata cable for it
>buy sata cable, wait a week for it to arrive
>no more sata ports
>buy sata card, wait a week for it to arrive

fml

This comes with a free CPU. Is it a good deal?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128835

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>PSU in place
>mobo in place
>CPU in place and plugged to mobo
>mobo wired to PSU
>RAM from QVL connected to the slots
>mobo has onboard graphics
>connect HDMI to screen and try to boot into BIOS
>mobo LEDs light up but nothing appears on the monitor
WHAT DO I DO

>>61398382
panic

>>61398382
Ryzen? If yes, let it sit. Ryzen is notorious for taking a long time to POST for the first time.

>>61397273
it's great if you don't like hearing your hard drive spinning.

>>61398393
You mean minutes-long? And yes it's a ryzen 5 1600

>>61398417
Yes. Minutes long. But if it takes longer than 5 minutes, it means something is wrong.

>>61398382
mobo has onboard graphics ports but Ryzen DOES NOT have integrated graphics.

>>61398360
It's an okay deal.
You obviously buy the motherboard to BIOS flash and move into 7700K later, selling the Pentium. If that's your plan, it might be worth it.

>>61398382
Need a GPU

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>>61398507
>>61398446
>need to spend over 600 maple syrup bottlecaps to finish my build just to see if the BIOS even boots
god damn it all. at least now I know the fans are working a-o-kay and so are the various LEDs

>>61398360
If you want Z series chipset this is newer and cheaper.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144032

>>61398393
not >>61398382 , mine is just under a minute (40secs or so). ryzen 1600 with msi b350m pro-vdh.

>>61398064
25 hamsters and wheels

>>61398382
Ryzen takes a while to do memory training from a cold boot especially if you changed memory timings or frequency

>>61398543
Always have a cheap GPU as a back-up.

Should I wait for Vega?

>>61395709
If you want to be safe, 550w is definitely overkill for your specs. Just make sure it's a Gold PSU or higher. 650-1000w will just decrease your power efficiency. A total waste. At least with your setup.

>>61398943
Why not?

>>61395709
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817151186

>>61398543
Does your mobo not have a debug LED for the GPU?

>>61394082
Bump for an anon who's had a WD and Seagate fail before. Who can I trust?

>>61394069
It's announced. 1200 is 109$ 1300x is 130? I forgot.

>>61399070
Hopefully those will come down a bit, the 1200 at sub $100 would be ideal

>>61399088
I don't know if it will. Since Intel killed the pentium, they don't need too underprice it.

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>>61397819
>B350
Your call, is this worth ~30$+ more for you in ATX?

>>61399096
>killed the pentium

Wait what? Why the hell would they do that? It's pretty much the best value low-tier new processor out.

>>61399137
That's why. It ate up the i3 sales. Meanwhile amd released the r3 which is a better buy than the i3. Another shot in the leg for Intel.

>>61397371
I have a 15 year old Dell that I still use once in awhile, all original factory stuff and still functioning.

>>61396899
I laughed cuz I'm in the same boat rn. running a 9800gt with r7. nvme. 16 ram. it hurts.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GXyG4C

How'd I do? I'll probably spend a couple hundred bucks more for a Vega if it turns out to not be shit. No Nvidia because looniks.

Can someone tell me what mobo should I get for a g4560 and ram?

>>61396936
>Jaguar is an 8 core APU
Jaguar was literally developed for phones. It's an Atom competitor. The G4560 will be at least as fast, even in highly threaded applications.

>>61399310
>itx with a full sized card

Is $500 for a 1080 8GB a good deal or would it be better to wait for Vega at this point?

>>61399413
If Vega is a flop the price of the 1080 might increase. Or if Nvidia is a bitch they might lower the 1080 price to fuck with Vega.

>>61399372
>Maximum video card length: 12.40"

>>61399413
Just wait, at the very worst of Vega is a flop you'll see maybe a $100 rise if that. Chances are Nvidia may even drop price just to better compete and rub it in as >>61399421 said

>>61399310
Why not spring in for the extra $20 to $30 for better fully-modular and better efficiency or Supply, I also see you don't have a CPU Cooler plus that 1440p 144 Hz which is expensive won't reach its potential because of that rx 580 so go for 1080 144hz

Also that M.2 SSD can't work because of the ITX motherboard business support
M.2 slot

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FPfqnn
I fix a couple of things also

I'm an idiot. I bought a new motherboard (MSI X370 SLI Plus), and it doesn't support my NVMe drive (not in compatibility list). Will a PCIe M.2 adapter get around this?

>>61399490
What type of nvme SSD do you have?

>>61399507
Intel 600p 525Gb

>>61399513
I checked online about your motherboard and the SSD you got and it seems everything is compatible is there something's wrong with the BIOS or the m.2 slot

Easy try to mess around with your bios or update it

If not tried buy m.2 to pcie 4x

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R7-1700 or 6700k for 250 FPS gay men

>>61399549
Thank you! I thought I was going insane. It's hard when their compatibility list tells you what they support, but not what doesn't work explicitly (sorry about my English). It felt like the list was just not up to date; Speccy detects it, but it behaves like it's not there.

>>61399479
>""""Upgrading"""" a Seasonic PSU to Rosewill
>Switching out a 1440p IPS panel for a 1080p TN panel like they're interchangeable
>because of the ITX motherboard business support M.2 slot
The what?

>>61399555

Either will easily do it, but 1700 is better value.

A 4690K isn't even going to bottleneck the 1080Ti you'll need to drive dem pixels. X370 platform will have much greater longevity than tick/tock Intel Z270 crapshoot.

6700k vs 7700k
As far as I can tell the only difference between them is that one of them has higher clock speeds and isn't compatible with Windows 7. As well as running hotter.
Should I just buy 6700k even if it is only 30$ cheaper?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qDJhpb

r8 my current pc build; I want to get a 144hz monitor, should I wait till I upgrade GPU, and whats a good value 144hz 24" 1080p monitor

>>61399640
Get faster RAM for Ryzen probably 3000 or 3200.

>>61399604
I'll get the 1700, I'm tired of stuttering and having to run pre-rendered frames.

>>61393531
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JfcsNN

Any criticisms/tips?

>>61399713
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JfcsNN
>Actually buying a 1440P Monitor.
Honestly, I feel the jump from 1080P 60 HZ to 1080P 144 HZ, is far more noticeable than 1440P 60 HZ.

>>61394126
Jesus fuck, they're learning.

>>61399428
>tags: large insertion

>>61399611
I say 7700k, since all issues come from the higher clock speed. And you probably can force w7 on it. So either the newer one or neither.

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>>61394126
>tfw no LED grip lights
>tfw frames be slippin

I'm going to upgrade from Sandy Bridge to Kaby Lake, but the thing is I don't want to reinstall windows. Do I just have to uninstall all the drivers I have and pray for the best?

>>61399848
No. Reinstall windows or bone up on how to do a generic driver windows version that's for hotswapping.

>>61399763
A friend told me that a 1440p monitor was essential.

>>61399903
Is your friend a monitor merchant?

>>61394327
That is one ugly interior. And blower fans? Fuck that garbage, it's real fucking noisy under load.

>>61400102
>noisy under load

Jokes on you it'll crash before it can ever get loud.

>>61400102
Honestly. It's probably because the blower models are cheaper so they have greater profit margins.

>>61396738
>>61396738
>>61396738
>>61396738
>>61396738

pls respond
>>61396811
pentium what?

>>61400055
Khajiit has wares

>>61400181
For new processors, G4560 or maybe Ryzen 3 1200.

But you should probably just look at used parts if you're really on a budget.

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>>61400198
Warm sands

What's my best bet for a video card if I want to run a) on Linux, b) open source drivers, c) at 4k@60hz over HDMI? Video, not gaming. Trying to avoid overbuilding the shit out of this thing.

>>61400221
yeah, i'm not opposed to use parts, is there a certain direction i should learn towards though? like some megacorp recycles xxx and xxx is now cheap/plentiful.

i'm on an i5 750 for comparison

>>61400349
Depends on what you want. If you want lots of compute power then a used Xeon workstation should be easier to get, lots of companies get rid of them.

guys rate my build? someone was thinking of buying it from me

i5 6600k
cryorig h7 cooler
gigabyte board
16gb ddr4 ram
1tb hdd
128 ssd
gtx 1050 ti video card
500w b+
corsair case

23 inch monitor 1080p


how much would you buy this for? no visible cum stains anywhere

>>61400396
This is not a good time to be buying an i5. i5 isn't worth it unless it's below or on par with the price of the upcoming R3s.

>>61400396
>i5
No

>>61397147
Ayy, me too. Used it on my last build. Shocked me when I got the box. My last experience installing a cooler was with the pentium 4 when they weren't nearly as monstrous in size.

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>mfw gtx 1070 prices
>mfw I have no face
what the fuck man

>>61400451
>>61400409
>t. people who can't read

>>61393688
Where are you finding that for $220?

>>61400527
>>61400396
500~600 dollars would be a fair price

>>61400496
I'm saying you should sell it for 350, also known as tree fiddy.

>>61400549
No I'm referring to his picture. Where in the coldest island in hell did he find and MSI radeon rx580 8gb for $229? Is it an old picture?

>>61400552
Fuck off back to your lake you dino piece of shit

>>61400611
I think that's an old screenshot. That price doesn't exist anymore.

>>61400620
lol yea I figured. He meme'd me good.

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>bought my 1070 at $350 a couple months ago and got called a retard for doing so
>mfw everyone is trying to get one now and paying over $500 for it

>>61400657
you're still retarded, but those paying $500 for it are even more retarded

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mGb7jc
thoughts?
Go easy on me

Hey bros, need some input from yall, ive read reviews that typically the stock wraith spire will leave the r7 in 60C temps in idle. after checking my temps its currently in 30C idle, does this mean i won the lottery? its on a fresh install btw. does core temps matter or is the general cpu temp reading ok?

>tfw you can't upgrade your GPU because the only things worth a shit for your budget don't exist anymore thanks to miners and you have to wait until the meme stops and people keep asking you how to mine

It's time to send some people to death camps

>>61400747
30C is normal. 60C sounds like somebody didn't turn off the offset in hwmonitor program when measuring.
Ryzen Master or BIOS will show true temps.

>>61400683
You sure showed me your point. Oh wait you didn't.

>>61400761
ok ill def look into ryzen master, i just want to o.c. to 3.5 and ill be super happy

Anyone have the Spire LED CPU cooler from the 1700 they want to sell? Those look sweet but I don't want to jump up $130 just for the LED when my r5 1600 is all I want

>>61400710
Drop the CDRW and get better speed rams, at least 3000mhz and make sure it's on the QVL of your mobo.

Otherwise looks solid.

>>61400976
Buy an LED strip

>>61400747
60C is probably their LOAD temp at stock, no way is it idling that high at stock unless you put it in a sealed container or something

>>61400990
thanks!!!!!

>>61401087
Probably the temp set to kick the fan on; I know mine was set to 0% fan until 60c
>>61401101
<3

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Pentium good for shitposting and playing vidya? I don't think I need that many <<<<cores>>>>

I've diagnosed my problem. The motherboard I've bought is compatible with the kaby lake CPU I've got, but it needs an update to bios to recognise it.

I don't have a skylake CPU to hand, is that my only option? I suppose I could take the motherboard to my local computer store to see if they could update it for me, but I'd rather not have to as they'll charge.

Serves me right for just assuming this shit would work.

>>61401656
Actually no. The best for shitposting is a smartphone.

Is hyper 212 evo decent cooler for its price?

>>61401698
ewww no

>>61401676
It might have a manual flashing method like putting a file on the root of a usb drive, putting it in a specific usb slot and pressing a flash button. My ASUS board has something like that.

>>61401736
It's fine but I think the Deepcool Gammaxx 400 is a better value for a cheapo cooler. Anything right around $30 and you might as well get a Cryorig H7

>>61401676
Give model name

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How's this look? Aussie

>>61401751
>>61401775
It's a gigabyte z170-gaming k3

After some searching it seems you need q-flash plus to flash without a CPU. This board only has q-flash, so you need a CPU. Looks like I'll have to take it to the store tomorrow.

>>61401766
>Cryorig H7
I live in a shithole, there is no cryorigs here and some other brands popular in US. I thought about gammax 400, but judging by reviews it has worse stock fan. Also, it's for ryzen, so my only choice it's deepcools, 212evo and some other coolermasters since i can buy am4 backplate here, and noctuas, but they're expensive af for me.

>>61401808
212 then

>>61401788
>Those prices
What the fuck is going on?

>>61401842
kangeroo tokens are fucked up

>>61401788
change PSU.
swap hdd for an ssd
swap your case to mATX (mini tower) if you dont want it to look retarded.
AMD is releasing VEGA for gamers next month so it would be stupid to buy a GPU before reviews are out.

>>61401883
>change psu
Why? and to what?

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So I'm looking to have a Home server and a powerful desktop in the same room on the same desk.

I can't really think of any good way to do it other than having two pcs just sitting next to each other so does anyone have any suggestions for a good case to do that?

IE a case thats both good for a server and a desktop.

The Fractal Design R5 is the best I've found so far.
Clean look, so shouldn't look too odd two next to each other.

But its like 110$ a case.

Any other ideas?

>>61401916
cus CX series is sub-par and to almost anything else. post the brands available on the site.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sN3Pqk
Is it worth getting an SSD?

>>61401945
oh hey I bought that case.
Good case, you should really get it for the nice filter placements alone for a server that you'll use for a long time.

>>61401949
fuck man, idk. Here's the full list. Any recs?
https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Power-Supplies

I don't know shit about PSUs, other than generally how much wattage builds need. Thanks

>>61402113
If you don't know much just buy Seasonic. You literally cannot go wrong with Seasonic.

>>61401945

Buy threadripper (for more cores and I/O than you could possibly saturate) and jam it all in the R5. Only issue with the R5 is you are "limited" to 8 hard drives unless you do some crazy mounting in the 5.25" bays.

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>>61402088
yes.

>>61402113
jonnyguru.com

one of pic related

>>61402154

>jonnyguru.com

Echoing this - there basically isn't a better site than that (even if its that OklahomaWolf dude running it rather than jonny) for power supply reviews and analysis.

They really shouldn't be able to say that a motherboard is compatible with a new generation CPU if you have to have an old CPU to do the upgrade.

I'm not new to building PCs and it confused me. If I was new it would probably have made me send everything back.

>>61402242
I have similar issues with skylake as well. It's absolutely shit that you need dig deep into discussion forums to find out the small quirks of the platform if you don't want to stab yourself in the dick.

I have a dilema, is it worth to upgrade from an fx 6300 to a ryzen 5 1500x ? I mostly use my pc to browse/twitch and I play WoW mostly. But my graphic card is a r7 360 atm and I cant upgrade both graphic card and cpu right now,

>>61402357
>>61402242
It just needs a bios update. Even if you managed to buy a skylake board and a Kaby chip without knowing, I'm sure there are plenty places willing to drop their own chip in flash the new bios for you, like Bestbuy, or a mom and pop computer repair shop.
>but it's going to cost me money!
Your fault for not doing research.

>>61402410
My issue was memory compatibility and the shop staff didn't want to help.
>why didn't you research
Why the fuck would I need to research when it's written clearly on the mobo specs? Oh wait, that's not correct. Intel, never again.

>>61402410
>>61402357
>>61402242
>>61402446
never trust a kike

opinions on this monitor?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009910

just want a budget 144 hz monitor 24 inches or under preferably with freesync

>>61402394
upgrade cpu now
upgrade gpu later

>>61402410
I would just get the 1600, I don't see the point of a 1500X honestly

>>61402455
find a review that tests the actual refresh rate, not all 144hz screens are the same.

>>61402472
thats what I am more inclined to do as well, gonna start checking motherboard and memory

>>61402516
is the rest of the specs alright for what it is and the price?

>>61402394
WoW is far more cpu limited than gpu limited. I had an Fx 8350 and that didn't do great in raids when lots of enemies started showing up and taking lots of damage. Ryzen should be a massive upgrade.
Not sure why the 1500x is in your sights, but most people say the value is in the 1400 or 1600. 1600x for overclocking.
Don't forget, you will also need to buy ddr4 ram which is currently disgustingly expensive.
I wouldn't really recommend you look for a new graphics card until you find a few more gpu intensive games you are interested in.

Btw, any recommendations on starting points for an Htpc? Would mainly be a Netflix / Anime box, so it would have to be cheaper and smaller than a game console. My local computer repair shop has a crapton of ddr3 for cheap btw. Probably hard drives too.

>>61398382
>mobo has onboard graphics

No it doesn't. The HDMI ports on Ryzen boards are for future APU compatibility. You're not seeing anything because you don't have a GPU.

Will the 1700 bottleneck a 1080 ti in 144 Hz 1440p gayming?

>>61402531
you cant know unless you watch a fucking review that checks shit like this:

https://youtu.be/dF-lOrw6iL8?t=5m7s

>>61402578
watch a review/benchmarks, dipshit

>>61402586
please do not bully me

>>61402517
get a ryzen 1500/1600, or if you are on a tight budget, you might want to wait for the ryzen 3 lineup in august(?).
mobo choices are: a320, b350 (supports overclocking), x370 (supports overclocking and sli/crossfire)
gpus (between 1050ti and 1080) are really expensive right now, so if you have to choose one (cpu/gpu), buy the cpu first.

>>61402667
A320 is not OC.

>>61402615
That anon is correct though. It also seems like you are misunderstanding the term "bottleneck" which indicates the graphics card waiting for the cpu to catch up to push its next frame. This typically only happens with egregiously mismatch hardware.
Also, the conventional wisdom is that an overclocked i7 is the way to go if gaming is the only cpu heavy task you demand of your computer. Conversely, Ryzen is the way to go if you require some workstation tasks in addition to your gaming.

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>>61402684
yeah i suck at typing.
> a320
> b350 (supports oc)
> x370 (supports oc and sli/crossfire)

>960 dies in less than a year
>mice nesting in my computer decided to piss on it
>time to buy a new gpu & evict tenants
>cryptofaggots drive gpu price up

Sticking with muh radeon 7400 until this latest cryptofaggot trend dies

>>61394126
Is there any good reason to custom build my first PC over getting this?
This is about the price I was planning to spend anyways, how much better could I get by building my own?
I want to play Arma or Squad on it, how badly would this one burst into flames and die from trying?

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/inspiron-5675-gaming-desktop/ddcwrdsk924s?selectionState=eyJGUHJpY2UiOjk0OS45OSwiT0MiOiJkZGN3cmRzazkyNHMiLCJRdHkiOjEsIk1vZHMiOlt7IklkIjo1NzIsIk9wdHMiOlt7IklkIjoiRkcwMDE5In1dfV19

>>61402803
>mice nesting in my computer decided to piss on it

U wot

>>61402805
those specs would cost roughly $840 if you assembled yourself. This is with a gtx 1060 gb though because Rx cards are still impossible to buy.

>>61402879
* $820 actually
I might as well post you the list since I went through the trouble of making it
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hC3rgL

>>61402820
They were paying rent, so I didn't have a problem with them living there. But then they decided that the backplane was a good location for a public restroom.

I still don't understand why they couldn't shit/piss in the bottom of the case like any other normal rodent.

Consequently, thermaltake housing estate for rodents is now closed to the vermin public.

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>>61402702
>the term "bottleneck" which indicates the graphics card waiting for the cpu to catch up to push its next frame.
Please do not teach wrong things to anons

>>61402901
Thanks for the list, anon!

Since it'll cost significantly less I guess I'll build it then.

What would I need to upgrade out of that list to be able to run games such as Arma or Squad?
I've been wanting to try those for a while now, and I figure a PC that can run those won't desperately need upgrades for quite a few years.
I assume I need 16gb of ram, what else?
I also want to try to learn 3D modeling, using unreal engine or some CAD programs, would a good gaming setup would be able to do those?

>>61403091
Arma is CPU intensive so buying an R5 1600 would be better.

>>61403378
Arma is dogshit at spreading the loads over multiple threads

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>>61403378
>>61403390
Is this build good enough?
Will it run such games at 30fps and not overheat?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gKHdQV

I really have no idea what I'm doing, I'm new to the PC thing, anything else I'd need to get with this build besides mouse+keyboard?
I already have a monitor from an old family computer.

>>61403622
yes it's good. Check your mobo qvl and make sure that the RAM you end up buying is in it.
the AB350M has only 2 ram slots, I'd get the AB350M Pro4 instead.

>>61403622
Yeah it's a good build
I'd personally pump more money into the motherboard but if you don't plan to do big overclock if any it'll be great

>>61403682
>Check your mobo qvl
M-my what? How do I check it?

I switched the motherboard to the one up you recommended since it was only ten dollars more.

>>61403832
Google your motherboard model and then go to support and check the memory list. Make sure the RAM you buy is on it especially if it is Ryzen.

>>61403832
here:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350M%20Pro4/#Memory
the QVL is the list of rams that have been tested to work with that mobo at the speed that is listed in the table.
for example, the F4-3466C16D-16GTZ G.Skill ram has 3466MHz advertised speed, and has been tested to work at 3066MHz with that mobo.

>>61403990
Not sure exactly where I'm supposed to be looking.
The ram I've got with the build right now is the "Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory", will that work?

i'd plan on buying the new ryzen 1500x, but for this i'd also need a new motherboard, because my current am3 board won't fit. Adding on top of that i will also need new Ram, and fast ram.
a motherboard will cost around 80 euro here, ram will be 70 for 8 gb and 120 for 16 gb.
is it worth buying the 16 gb ram?
i'm mostly using blender.
however, i don't think i will find the extra 50 euro worth it.

i'm currently using an overclocked athlon II x3 450.

>>61404197
Get the 1600 its only $200 on newegg

>>61404261
the cheapest 1600 is 220 where i live,
https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/745893/amd-ryzen-5-1600-boxed-wraith-spire-koeler.html

a full 40 euro more expensive then the 1500x
(why is there no regular 1500?)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k2HXQV
Any last changes before I start buying parts?

>>61404161
click on the ram page:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYH48d/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15
and check its Part #. Compare it with the table in the mobo qvl:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350M%20Pro4/#Memory
you'll see that it's not there, which means: 1) it has not been tested with that mobo. 2) it'll most probably work (perhaps at lower speed), and you can overclock it manually to 3000MHz, BUT it is not guaranteed to work.
The Corsair Vengeance is compatible with many mobo (google around for ppl with that mobo+ram combo and check what speed they could run it at), but to be extra sure, only get rams from the qvl. hope this helps, also pardon my english.

>>61404364
Could you recommend different 16 GB ram that has been tested to work with that motherboard, at around the same price?

Your English is fine, my dude.