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Is Skylake-X a defective product? Heat and power draw are serious issues, but at least they could be managed theoretically. the main problem is lack of heat transfer. Even an AIO fails to cool the CPU when overclocked because there's not enough heat transfer, the water stays cool while the CPU gets hotter and hotter. The use of thermal paste as TIM combined with the height of the IHS means you need overkill cooling solutions to reduce temps to manageable levels. These heat transfer issues could have been mitigated had the IHS been designed better and had Intel used solder instead. It's because of this I think Skylake-X (and to a degree Kaby Lake-S and Kaby Lake-X) are defective. Is it possible to form some kind of class action lawsuit against Intel? Delidding the CPU's vastly increases performance to the extent that Intel is being willfully spiteful by selling Skylake-X in such a state. Even worse, the IHS is more difficult to remove, disincentivizing delidding and forcing the consumer to reduce overclocks or buy more expensive cooling in order to mitigate thermals that are Intel's fault. If you do delid, there's a risk of breaking the CPU which forces the consumer to buy a new one. They're basically selling a $1000 CPU that doesn't work under normal conditions.
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>>61390095
Pretty sure that even on HEDT CPUs, overclocking voids the warranty. You don't have much of a claim here. You'd have to show it overheating/throttling at stock under non-synthetic workload with proper cooling.
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That's what happens when a company has a monopoly.
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>>61391244
Except they don't, anymore.
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>>61391319
Let's see about that. Intel is known for shady deals.
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>>61390904
:^)
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>>61391637
There's a hell of a lot of Ryzen advertising, Microsocenter has had a giant Ryzen ad with a Prey demo for months. Dell seems to have gone all in for Ryzen and even bought exclusive rights for Threadripper prebuilts, which couldn't have been cheap. Seems like Intel has lost a lot of clout with partners recently, look how many companies jumped ship to Epyc already.
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>>61391680
BTFO
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>>61391752
It's much more interesting to see if the enterprise sector ditches Intel in favor of AMD. That's where the real money is.
Currently, Intel Xeon dominates in data centers. Hopefully that changes so we can finally get some competition.
IIRC Alibaba (or is it Baidu?) is looking into a partnership with AMD for their data centers.
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>>61390095
>ME
It was defective before the dies were cut.
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>>61391680
and to think this all jew cum's fault
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>>61392165
baidu, microsoft, amazon
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>>61390904
> Pretty sure that even on HEDT CPUs, overclocking voids the warranty.
What about their advertising slides about overclocking? Couldn't that be labeled false advertising?
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>>61392328
you can overclock it though, but get fucked if you break it while doing so
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>>61392328
You can pay $30 for overclocking insurance, Microcenter offers their own as well.
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skylake x sounds like another bulldozer in the making
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