/tpg/ - Thinkpad General

Do all T420s have bluetooth?

if i put a SIM card into my WWAN slot on my x230 could i use it to take phonecalls?
what software would be needed to?
i know its stupid but im just wondering if its possible

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Just posting to remind everyone that there are only two acceptable Thinkpads to buy new today:

X62
T70

with X210 and possibly X302 arriving in the coming months.

All recent Lenovo units are trash, no exceptions.

I've heard you can put m14x screen in t420 but there are 30 pin and 40 pin models (as i understand). Which one is compatible?

Dumpster dived a T61, trying to boot it but it's stuck in a boot loop, how do I fix it? Flash the bios? It doesn't even post nor allow me to enter BIOS, I guess that's why the owner threw it out.

>>61383576
>X62
>T70
if only they were easier to get for westerners...

>>61375758
To make the touchscreen pen work, I needed to deactivate Wayland and go back to X. That could be the issue because unity has its own window server, depending on how much time ago you installed Ubuntu.

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>>61383770
different anon here. I bought an x200 recently, pic related. If I install Lubuntu on it, do you think the pen will work? It would be really cool if it did but if not, well no loss I suppose. I plan on using i3wm on it too.

>>61383849
Try xubuntu lts

>>61384013
Why Xubuntu?

>>61384063
It's been the most stable linux distor for me, specially for older machnes.

The T420 that I just bought's resolution is 1600x900 with the Intel HD 3000 driver installed. The corner of the lid shows evidence that it was opened, so I assume a new screen was put in. Does this just mean that the previous owner put a better screen in it? Is there a way to tell if it has an Nvidia card in in it or not?

>>61383849
Sure, it's a modern Linux distribution with X. Not sure if lxde has support though. I'm from the thread before and I just went for Fedora

>>61384111
what kind of evidence? chips on the bezel corners are very common and not an indicator that it was opened up

>>61384194
Oh I see. I know ubuntu has wacom drivers, which the pen is. I don't have the laptop yet so I can't test it. I might have to move around to different distros to find which one works. I'm mostly worried about the orientation flip and whether or not that will be recognized.

I considered going the Fedora route. I like the design suite that they have since I'm into a few art stuff. But now I find myself writing more. Mostly use Emacs to write my journal and moving towards terminal applications. I'm not sure if I can fully transition to Fedora from Ubuntu. I'll just have to relearn some commands if I do switch. Shouldn't be too hard.

>>61384210

The corner where the two halves would come apart is more apart as if it were opened and couldn't be put together tightly.. Is that just a common thing?

>>61384256
The orientation flip worked out of the box on my yoga (thinkpad yoga, not consumer yoga)

All you have to learn on Fedora when moving from Ubuntu is to type dnf instead of apt-get and download rpm instead of deb. Both are pre configured and stable "newbie"-friendly distributions

>>61383758
it's really not difficult. people on 51nb will help ship it to you. buying crap from taobao is much worse.

>>61383849
I have x201t with xubuntu 17.04 installed, the pen works just fine, it's also pressure sensitive.

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dafuq is this and how do i fix it without buying a replacement screen?

>>61385060
Thats backlight bleed anon, only fixable with a new screen :(

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>>61385125
Is it? I always thought that light bleeding appears on the extremities of a bad or low-quality display. This looks as if a lamp or some shit decided to become visible right in the middle of the screen.
Anyway, I've heard that gently rubbing the area could help, I just don't want to make the matter worse.

>>61385395
That's what you get for buying chinknovo

>>61384866
They should just sell it in Ali, or eBay.

I'm sure they'd sell a lot more.

Hey guys

I've got a T420 and I've noticed that sometimes the colour gets super washed out at times when watching things. It usually happens when it goes from a dark scene to something light. Is this fixable or should I just get used to it?

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So I got a X200 on ebay, including ultra base and everything else for a working computer (hdd, ram, etc) for $90! I've been in touch with the people at libreboot on their IRC, so I'm gonna get myself a freedom lappy!

I already have a X201 with miltiple mods, though… Still contemplating if I'll be navigating the hardware from that to this. I probably will, to make it my new main machine.

Oh, I also convinced my girlfriend to get a Thinkpad X220 Tablet for $135 on an ebay auction! She got really lucky at that price, the images weren't stock so I'm excited to see the condition of it beyond the pictures taken, because it looked great!

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I live in middle of third world country, so I can't order parts online.
How much does SODIM DRR3 RAM and SSD should cost?

>>61386202
It depends from country to country.

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Don't talk to me or my son ever again

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>>61386484
my nigga
8470p reporting in

>>61383576
>X302
please tell me more, anon.

>>61386736
Nice. Just got the smaller one today

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What can I expect from the T450s? Need it for work and studying.
Comes with the FHD IPS display, 256GB SSD, 12GB RAM and i7-5600U. Will have to inquire about the battery since the seller only says "5h of battery life". Besides some slight wear the condition looks fine too.

Is it even worth buying a laptop now, considering that ryzen will be available on mobile at the end of the year ?

>>61387202
got a feeling that a ryzen laptop isn't going to revolutionize mobile computing to the point where we all throw out every laptop we've bought up to this point

>>61387132
>qwertz
>strg
what is wrong with germans?

>>61386272
What's the average?

>>61387330
Definitly not, but i'm talking about generally buying a new laptop.

>>61384111
remove keyboard stare at heatsink
also the screen has nothing to do with dgpu but whatevs

Sort of related... does anyone know a good place to get thinkcentre / thinkstation desktop cases in the U.K.? I just wanted to get some empty cases to build an aesthetic media box.

>>61387202
you can fall for the just wait meme

that said considering at least 95 percent of the market is intel (and that being generous) I wouldnt think amd would directly turn the tides for intel ULVs

Where should I look online for parts?
Need to get an SSD for X220.

>>61388270
pcpartpicker

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What do guys?

Random-san sells his X60s, Core duo. Seems in pretty good shape, almost no marks, 100GB HDD, 2GB RAM.

For 30€ shipping included. Only drawback is the battery is dead so I'd have to buy another one.

>>61388270
newegg or ebay

>>61388429
I think both you of you did well
>random-san has no use for his old business grade lunchbox so he sells it off
>now you have a lightweight shitposting machine
now buy a x62 mobo

>>61388464
I haven't bought it yet. I wondered if 30€ was correct but apparently there's is no doubt.

What with the x62 mobo? Is it the next step into ThinkPad autism?

>>61388498
its a newer mobo made by some very helpful chinks that love IBM more than lelnovo

its essentially a spec bump for an old laptop its rather neat if youve got the cash to throw at it

Why won't my x200 enable its wireless capablities until its running a live OS?
The other day I installed Fedora on it but for some reason I needed to be wired to my router during the installation process
It was only afterward that I could connect wirelessly

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>>61388535
What about X60 Gluglug, the ThinkPad that cares about your freedom?

http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Gluglug-The-Free-Software-ThinkPad

Anyone know how I can flash the regular old Lenovo BIOS back onto my x60 Tablet? I've got all the hardware to do it, I just need to find a ROM. But Lenovo only offers an executable file for Windows and a Bootable CD image.

The BIOS software on my laptop's chip is completely missing due to trying to flash Libreboot while I had a BIOS supervisor password set and thus couldn't complete the flashing. I then removed the BIOS battery for a few minutes to try to reset it to the original BIOS but it seemed to wipe the chip clean.

I suppose I could try to flash Libreboot again now that the chip is wiped but the BIOS supervisor password also sneakily encrypted my hard drive I was using and I'm able to access it unless I boot from it with that specific Lenovo BIOS (prompts me for password when I put it in my x220 but doesn't recognize the correct password).

Anyone got any advice for me? I've got a years worth of research material on that drive which is irreplaceable.

>>61388663
it seems fun to just spout memery without actually thinking about what one says, isn't it?
Gluglug relinks to MOF since quite some time and they don't have x60 in stock since a long time.
Regarding your linked article:
>coreboot
wew, if that is what you call freedom
also, I doubt they use coreboot if they link to MOF, which is run by the maintainer of libreboot

>>61383397
>get a refurbrished T420 with win7 on it
>harddrive is obviously shit
>guess ill clone the content unto a larger, faster one.
>Clonezilla? lemme try that.
>The copy wont boot
>But, somehow, the original harddrive got corrupted, windows says shits fuck and it aint gonna boot.
>Fucking hell. So... order some recovery media from lenovo...? Nah
Guess its time to install gentoo.

>>61388939
>cloning a freshly installed OS
>cloning WIndows

>>61388976
>>cloning a freshly installed OS
why wouldnt i...
>>cloning WIndows
i remember it working using a cracked version of acronis trueimage.

>>61389015
I don't have any actual numbers, but I'd be willing to guess, depending on your hardware of course, that cloning a barebones OS probably takes around the same amount of time as installing one. Maybe not for Windows because it's full of bloat for the average user, but installing something like Ubuntu on decent hardware probably takes less than 10 minutes. And Ubuntu is extremely bloated too.

>>61389100
Well its because of the OEM license bullshit and that recovery partition, if reinstall i wouldnt be able to activate it.

>>61389147
if it's the correct version of windows and the sticker on the bottom is still intact you shouldn't have problems activating it

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>>61386202
Anyone?

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Found an old R500 that was out in the rain last night. Its drying off under a fan right now - anything else to do before I try and power it up? Thinking that after a day or two it should be alright.

>>61389170
You cant get an installation media for windows 7 OA... for whatever reason.

>>61389178

I live third world too, central america and we use american dollars.

>SSD around 80 bucks for 120gb
>RAM 4GB DDR3 $25 used of course. 8GB kits are around $100.

>>61389190
OA part doesn't matter, it just needs to be Home or Pro or whatever the license is for

>>61389199
>>SSD around 80 bucks for 120gb
Just got my kingdian msata 120gb for like 50$.
Its great.

Just pulled the trigger on my first Thinkpad, did I do okay?

www.ebay.com/itm/12-5-ThinkPad-X220-Tablet-Core-i7-2620M-2-70GHz-NO-HDD-4GB-RAM-Wi-Fi-/292174383042

>>61389350
no

>>61389199
>SSD around 80 bucks for 120gb
What brand?
In ME WD SSD 120GB is around 60$
>Buying used RAM
Is this a good idea?
>8GB kits are around $100
For 8GB X 2?

>>61383397
Is the x220 worth the intel backdoor?

>>61389350
Not a fan of the tablet version but ya. Could've probably found it for cheaper though. I got my non-tablet i7-2640M for $120.
>tfw you bought 16GB of 1866MHz DDR3L later for the same price

>>61389436
Intel backdoor? You mean AMT? You can disable that from the BIOS. Also,
>not flashing Coreboot

is 200 bucks a good deal for a x230 with an i5-3320M, 5g ram, 500g storage?

>>61389520
Oh sweet, thanks.
Wasn't going to flash coreboot (at least at first) because a friend has issues with his when he did it.

>>61389542
not really, you can find better deals if you keep searching

and you'll want to get an ssd and another 4gb stick of ram probably

>>61389410
I guess those cheap kingston drives will be enough and around that price.

RAM is not know to fail that much, specially if you test it before buying it.

>For 8GB X 2?

No, 4GB x2.

>>61389602
So 200 is an average deal for one with 8g and a ssd?

>>61389436
followup question: is 140 bucks good for an x220?

Is it possible to disable dgpu in t430 such that the dgpu isn't fed any electricity at all(to increase battery life)? Are there any side effects for doing this?

>>61384940
That is fantastic news! I'm considering going using 16.04 LTS though. Is it worth using the non LTS versions?

>>61387344
It's Steuerung because it's needed to steuern other Tasten you Schwuchtel

I'm wanting to get a thinkpad for playing DooM on, needs an Nvidia card (opengl).

I also like the tablet like ability of the thinkpad, can try amateur artistry.

Anybody have any personal experience dooming on a thinkpad?

My budget is about £700

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>>61390788
Oh yes, was wondering too how Doom goes on Windows 10

>>61390788
Get an X1 Yoga

>>61388464
>buy a x62 mobo
Don't do this.

>>61390824
Maybe one day M8
Way outside my price range

is the x220 a meme?
where can I find one in the UK?

Coreboot/Libreboot question.
Any anon ever tried installing on a non supported laptop with similar specs as a supported laptop?

what do you think about the E470?
it looks pretty nice & the price is good
(and I don't want to go for anything used)

>>61391679
the point of these threads and thinkpads is buying premium laptops secondhand, because it's a good deal and a good value

if you're in the market for something new then
>/g/ is NOT your personal tech support team or personal consumer review site.

Me again, I found two good listings on ebay, now its just between..
>x220 i5-2520M for £115
? OR ?
>x230 i5-3320M for £125

>>61391701
I don't live in the US, so it's really hard to find secondhand thinkpads around here.
people sell used x220 with cracks (& no IPS) for over 300USD

I can buy used thinkpads from ebay, but I don't know where to start
and I'm looking for something that has low fan noise (I believe 2nd & 3rd gen core cpus aren't likely to be cool and quiet)

>>61391750
X230.
Personally, I'd also look up for 2570p as it is better than x230, imo.
>>61391767
3rd gen CPUs are okay, being cool and quiet at the same time.

I never had a thinkpad, and want to buy at least one. Few questions for that hooefully some kind anon would answer.
>What's the oldest/cheapest thinkpad with 1080p+ display
>How many hours to expect with a battery, are there modern compatable batterues with longer life
>Some on ebay are bios locked will libreboot bypass these
>Is it better to buy a parts only, and upgrade (I don't mind putting time in to it)
>Pricing (not important as this is probably easy to research on my own)

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X61T is pretty comfy laptop for basic browsing. Have it fitted with a SSD and 4gb ram. A shame that the battery sucks.

>>61386736
>>61392455
Well, what's your budget and your needs?

How's KDE on the x220 these days?

>>61391136
ebay

>>61393686
>how's KDE?
*crashes*

>>61386843
They're about to take preorders and will begin production if they get at least 100 orders.

4999 of the people's currency for the board+HSF. i7-7500u.

https://forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1789929&extra=page%3D1

old laptop broke, not really comfortable buying a new one in my country.

Any suggestions for a decent school computer?

>>61383397
Should I get a T430 and remove the optical drive and replace with a 500gb samsung ssd?

>>61394281
aint nothing wrong with msata.
you dont need that pcie slot, do you?

>>61390860
sorry to hear about your brain problems.

>>61394319
Nope.

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>>61389868
Somebody haaaalp!

>>61394482
nvidia optimus is supposed to do this on its own, you should be able to disable it in the BIOS as well

>>61387132
bought mine new with the same specs for about $1000. it's been running amazing for 2 years, I manhandle it a lot and bring it with me to college and everywhere and use it all day long everyday

I even dropped it a couple of times from moderate heights (50cm-1m)

>>61391679
don't buy E, that's not a thinkpad

I'm going back to Uni, but my old laptop let me down and I was thinking that it could be interesting to look into ThinkPads. I'm going to spend a lot of time away from home, so I want to be able to shitpost, watch my animes and play very light games like Minecraft when I'm not studying.

Would you recommend a E560 (the i5-6200U, 4GB RAM & 500GB HDD one) for this use ? I looked into it and it seemed quite nice to tell you the truth.

>>61394920
no

>>61394941
Could you elaborate ? That seems a bit harsh.

>>61389184

Left it for a week. Then sumerge it on isopropilic alcohol (or use electronics cleaner) and dry it

>>61394964
plastic lid and case, because E-series and "not real" ThinkPad

>4gb ram and 500gb hdd in a new laptop
lmao that shit was standard like 7 years ago

>ULV CPU, no gpu
>light gaming
>implying

unless you're getting some killer deal on it then I would not recommend it at all

also 15.6" laptops are too big and numpads are dumb to have on laptops unless you are literally an accountant

Flash coreboot as a noob hope I don't brick my X220, or wiat for libreboot to be released?

>>61395343
Well I can't do without a numpad, it's something I've always used and for some reason I can't stop. 500GB is enough for me, when I really want to keep a movie, for exemple, I put it on an external HDD which can be used on all my devices. But I understand your point. What would you recommend ?

>>61395343
>4gb ram
it's fine for shitposting and animes. I got around with less than that.

>500gb hdd
>hdd
yeah, that's shit

>ULV CPU, no gpu
>light gaming
>implying
again, passable for older games. I can play a decent number of games on my T430 with dual core i5, 4GB of ram and integrated GPU. I don't think anon expects to play witcher 3 on a budget thinkpad, even on low settings.

>15.6" laptops are too big
4u, it's a matter of taste

>>61394920
despite passable hardware (except for HDD) it's still E-series and therefore shit. See >>61383397 for reference
>P, T, X, and W SERIES

>>61395538
>500GB is enough for me
the point is that it's an HDD and not an SSD

SSD's give a huge performance increase along with being silent, no vibrations, and are much more reliable

>>61395555
>4gb ram
>it's fine for shitposting and animes. I got around with less than that.
That's funny because I'm actually posting on a Fujitsu laptop with an i3 and 2GB RAM.

>>61395565
While I agree with both of you on the fact that SSDs are more reliable, I keep on thinking that a 500GB HDD is enough for me. Plus, I have never kissed an SSD yet so I wouldn't see much of a difference.

t. ultrapoorfag

Now I'll thank you both, you really helped me. I'm going to keep on searching, then.

Is there a good way to clean the lid on a ThinkPad? The T420 that I just bought has these dark spots that look like water stains or something all over it.

>>61395732
>water stains
Anon...

>>61395763

I don't know what they are. They're small spots that are all over the lid. I got it "refurbished" from eBay.

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>>61395732

Here's a photo.

If I replace the keyboard on the t430 with the t420 keyboard, is there any reason to get the t420 itself over the t430?

>>61395783
>buying used ThinkPads

Disgusting. Build your own from spares. How can you buy used personal contact things like that?

>>61394920
No, 4gb is too little even for browsers, the HDD is too slow and will probably break easily, and the E series thinkpads have a shit build quality.

It all comes down to how much you're paying, but I wouldn't recommend paying more than $300 for a machine like that.

>>61396099
meme value in being able to call it the Dankpad.
other than that, not really if you can afford the T430

>>61396478
is the build quality on the t430 any worse than the t420?

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do I want to pay $25 for a WWAN module for GPS or not

I have no use for mobile data part and I'm not sure how useful the GPS capability would be

>>61396524
not really no, mine feels amazingly sturdy

I have a t410 that shuts off randomly whenever I go without using for maybe 30 minutes. What can I do?

>>61388464
Save your money, don't get the X62 mobo.

>>61389647
>doesn't see my buying goes
>doesn't check sold listings
>doesn't see other sandy bridge ultraportables go for

why does this have to fucking happen.

>>61396570
alright, thanks for the info anon

>>61396703
Sorry man. Did look through your site, bought anyways. Was looking for some more opinions.

>>61396400

It's what I can afford, Anon.

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Retro when?????

>tfw you win a ThinkPad in a contest
>tfw you open the box and it's a Yoga 11e
Seriously /g/, what do I do with this pile of trash? This isn't even a ThinkPad...

>>61397321
sell it, don't even open it and then buy something real

>>61396703
>Save your money, don't get the X62 mobo.
Man, why would you hurt people by telling them something like that? The X62 board isn't even especially expensive for what it is, and it gets you the best Thinkpad you can have today.

>>61397422
I had to open it to even see what it was. I'll probably just repackage it in the original box and try to sell it as new.

>>61396828
Shit mang.

>>61397321
I liked it, good shitpost machine desu

>>61396578
check temps, if not it could be hdd.

>>61383684
Please help

>>61394321
>deciding to forego some shitty chink botnet (((upgrade))) is a type of brain damage
oh you chinks, get gassed and have your organs harvested

i bought a t410s not realising it has 1.8" hdd slot.

in other news i think im ready to quit drinking

>>61398549
zif to msata converter

what do you guys put in your pcie slots

>>61383397
What are the major differences between the T- and L- series?

I am getting an L470 for cheap, but make me not buy it for the T470. What will I miss other than the graphics card?

>>61398892
USB 3.0 ports.

>>61399485
L-series are made from lower quality components like recycled plastics, they're still better than most laptops but don't be surprised if it falls apart after a couple of years, in contrast my X60 is still looks almost brand new after ten years of almost daily use

>>61399520
Nice, thanks.

>>61399512
what model? how's it work on linux?
do you mind posting a picture?

>>61397321
I wouldn't personally use it, but the education line is underappreciated for normies. They're built like tanks to take middle school kid abuse, they just lack features patricians appreciate.

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Sorry for being that guy, but how much should I expect to pay for this? ~150? and it it even worth it if I have to install an ips screen, a x220 keyboard, and a ssd?

>>61394568
Thanx!!!

>>61400187
Yeah, that's a good price for an x230. You should look for ones with pre-installed IPS panel, though.

>>61400606
Last question I swear, how much extra would a ssd/ips cost? 100 bucks?

does T430 middle trackpoint key fit on a T420 keyboard? i know that the other two trackpoint buttons don't.

>>61386484
Well anon you've done it
I mean the price I found it for already sold me on it but whatever

How is it?
I'm picking up one this week

>>61388763
Anyone?

>>61400651
It varies from location to location....I live in a third world shithole, and a new ssd(120gb) costs 50-60$ here. A replacement screen cost 80-100$, here. Burgers have it cheap, so assuming you are a burger, you might be get lucky. Just check out the online listings on ebay, Craigslist or whatever for the average price these goods cost. You might also want to visit your local electronics markets(kinda like akihabara in japan or shenzhen in China).....you might get em cheaper there.

I unironically love my X240. Can anyone recommend a decent conversion therapist?

>>61383397
Bought a refurb latitude core i5 E6320 for $155, how did I do?
> 250 GB HDD
>4GB RAM

>>61396400
It's fine as long as you thoroughly clean it with wet cloth and isopropyl.

>>61401790
Is this your first thinkpad?

>>61401790
nothing wrong with the x240 except the touchpad and the single ram

>>61402017
No, it replaced my thicc W510 as I started to do work on the go.

>>61402080
I've found the touchpad surprisingly easy to work with after disabling all the gesture crap and using it only for trackpoint "buttons"

>>61401797
Pretty good! I'd suggest getting an ssd, 8 gigs of ram and an extended battery and then you'll be super comfy.

>>61401055
Thanks for the knowledge mate.

Is it good? https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-0A36303-ThinkPad-Notebook-Packaging/dp/B0085MPGDG

I am in a rush, and I need battery for my t420, but I don't trust ebay's sellers anymore. If you guys know any better option/seller, please share, that'd be very helpful.

>>61400766
i tried it with Mint first just because i already had in on a USB and it was a little sluggish, so i installed Lubuntu and its great, even plays porn at 720p with adblock

>>61402694
>as I started to do work on the go
Do you do remote job? What kind of? Very interested.

>>61388249
yeah, its not going to happen in the laptop space, as manufacturer choice is not going to change anywhere near as quickly as the opinion of the power user

>>61403383
Battery recall if you already have an OEM one.

>>61403455
I bought my thinkpad from ebay's seller, not from official store, so unfortunately I can't do that.

>>61403514
If the laptop comes with an official battery you still can, unless you bought one without which is silly… Be a buzzard on ebay or buy a chink one, as $75 is ridiculous, especially with the battery recall going on.

>>61403418
Not quite as interesting as that. Just uni with a commute (campus a while out of the city) so I've got time to kill on the journey and during the day when I won't necessarily have a power socket. I'm barely a step above NEET.

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>>61403563
Nah, it tells me that I can't participate in battery recall, I don't why tho.

>>61383397
/g/ I need help finding a laptop for a friend. He assumes I'm some kind of computer dork because I explained and now share normie-tier memes for him to laugh at. He just got a new job doing some sort of consulting. Basically I think it just needs to be snappy, new, reliable.

Budget: not sure but decently high. he's a rich normie but at the same time I don't wanna push anything too crazy

Location: Canada

Size: big screen "but nothing too heavy" he's going through chemo actually, he says he never felt so weak in his life.

Performance: snappy, reliable

Other requirements: purely for office work

After 7 years of rough service, I've finally replaced my X220 with a desktop. My job gave me a macbook, and since I'm done with college I don't travel around anymore. What should I do with my venerable X220 now?

>>61404072
Use it then you want to code for yourself, like old hacking days

>>61404128
But my desktop has a big monitor and a nice mechanical keyboard. Coding is much better on it.

>>61404140
Can you kode on your desktop while laying on bed or while shitting? Yeah thought so.

>>61404140
so why do people really come into threads and ask "i got this new better thing but what should i do with this old thing", but immediately shoot down suggestions because "my new thing is better"? a weird roundabout way of bragging about the new thing? or do you lack any imagination at all? fucking watch porn on the toilet with it or throw it in a wood chipper for kicks or fucking anything at all you can do with a laptop

>>61404140
>>61404140
Does your desktop support libreboot/coreboot? Ofc not, so stick to thinkpadus if you need real freedom.

>>61404072
install gentoo

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>bought a X220 for a low price recently on ebay
>arrives today
>BIOS has supervisor lock
what do

>>61405809

if the ebay listing didn't say that it had the password then return it and get another one, you can remove the supervisor/bios passwords but you need a costly bit of gear and it's generally not recommended

if the ebay listing did say that it has the password and you can't return it, you can buy a motherboard without the password and replace it

>>61405809
message seller and ask for password
if they don't have it then return it

>>61405809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANZjUPUYE7s

>>61383397
is there anywhere i can get custom keycaps or stickers fit for thinkpad keyboards? i want to get one to replace the windows sticker

I keep flipping back and forth between the x220, x230 and t420. I need something incredibly affordable that can handle larger programs without too many jitters (photoshop, flash) as well as few old games and videos.

I like the X220 portability, not that it is essential to me, but I dislike the slower speeds.
I like the X230 speed and portability, but I dislike the limitations of battery and wifi card.
I like the T420 speed and screen display, but... i'm not sure.

>>61403437
I mean it happened in the server market
though I guess the server market is more objective towards numbers unlike the consumer laptop market

>>61403405
nice
does it have scrolling when you hold the right mouse button down? Ive always wondered that about HPs

>>61406691
T430

>>61407265
I don't see many of them listed in the UK, and when I do they're usually a bit too price heavy for me, I preferably want to stay around the £150 mark. I'm thinking the X230 will be my best bet for now but I am very concerned that I will need to make adjustments to the system that won't be allowed in the BIOS

>>61407350
like what

Can anyone help me find a decent laptop?

Budget: $650 with some leeway

Location: Canada

Size: 14-15.6"... lightweight

Performance: purely for school work. 8GB RAM, and an SSD probably the minimum.

Other requirements: needs a docking station, or can be hooked up to monitor/mouse/keyboard easily. A screen better than the T420.

>>61407403
The whitelisted battery packs and wifi adapters are the two I worry about, mostly the latter. I wouldn't mind paying for the official battery pack but if I can't switch out the wifi adapter and it turns out to be pretty duff, I will get a lot less use from my thinkpad

>>61407539
what's wrong with the OEM wifi cards?

>>61407812
I've heard some of them are pretty poor and can't keep a connection, but that may have been a small comment that has spiralled out of control after it got in my head. I would need a laptop that can keep a good connection as it will be used away from home often

>>61407482
T450(s)?

>>61407812
I think the problem is that there is no free as in freedom drivers for Intel cards for Linux.

Are the ram & 2.5inch drive in the T470 replaceable?

Hey guys, I was going to buy this x300, but it's beyond of what I'm willing to pay right now, so if you want it:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LENOVO-THINKPAD-X300-/332294751869?hash=item4d5e4f867d:g:8OgAAOSwbopZQEWG

has no HD and no cover for RAM, from what I translated

>>61407482
T460s. Better specs than the average T450s plus HDMI port.

Also, get a Thinkpad dock. They go for like 30 dollarydoos in eBay.

I'm planning to buy both once I get rid of my current laptop.

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Hey guys,
What's the best option for a small coding machine,
(preferably 13"-14")
but with FHD display?

It shouldn't cost more than 500$ and I couldn't care less about brands and whatnot as long as I can run Debian on it.

>>61408336
how's the battery life
shitty innit

>>61408545
bid is over

>>61395694
buy a used T430 or something
E will break down within 2 years

>>61408420
I like T460s or the HP Elitebook Folio 1040 G3

The X220 hackintosh looks so fucking comfy. Is it worth the hassle to get MacOS on there? Will I be able to use it as a daily driver? How is battery life?

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Will someone redpill me on the T40 / X40 series?

I remember an anon talking about like 10hrs of battery with one

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834332119&cm_re=docking_station-_-34-332-119-_-Product

is this a good deal?

>>61407961
And it is
The original wifi has basically no problems other than there being more efficient wifi cards with even less idle drain

>>61402736
Thanks anon! :)

>>61408545
Better your x220 my friend

>>61409173
no

>>61406381
Noice

>>61406691
Just get a x230
If you don't know which card to use over the stock card than you shouldn't care about the whitelist

>>61405888
This or new mobo

>>61409241
>>61409299

thanks anons, its definitely going to be the x230, now to just find the perfect processors

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>>61409173
Well seeing as I bought my T430 with dGPU, i5 3360m, HD+ screen, and AC adapter for $140...not at all. This is an impressively terrible deal. At most the laptop in that listing is maybe $250 due to the SSD.

Here's a similar listing for way fucking cheaper: http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430-i5-2-6-i5-3320M-8GB-128GB-SSD-DVD-WIN-10-PRO-Laptop-/222312348880?hash=item33c2d93cd0:g:b4wAAOSwax5Ytj8~

>>61406691
>>61407350
>>61407539
https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec/blob/master/README

Also, I'm pretty sure there was a work around for WiFi cards...

>>61409338
the i5's and i7's are all dual-cores on X230's so the performance difference is pretty negligible between them all

>>61409351
thats over $350 CDN with shipping.

$50 for an SSD twice the size and a docking station is "an impressively terrible deal"?

so i just got an x200 off ebay and I was searching around for RAM upgrades and some people are saying it can't take more than 4gb, others saying you can do 8gb. I can't find a definitive answer and was wondering if you fine gentleman could help a newfag out

>>61409508
depends on the cpu/chipset

google the cpu, find intel's site with its specs and it will say max ram it can take

>>61409392
so would you say there isn't much point waiting round for an i7 to go up somewhere? I've seen almost zero IPS screens also so is that worth waiting around for?
>>61409379
thanks so much for this anon

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>>61409781
went from an IPS X220 to a TN X230 and I don't really see what the big deal is. It is a worse screen but it's not that bad. Maybe I'm just traumatized by the screen burn-in/image retention of the IPS X220 (which also affects the IPS X230).

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> http://www.ebay.com/itm/ThinkPad-X200-12-1-Tablet-Core-Duo-1-86GHz-4GB-RAM-160gb-WEBCAM-WIFI-WIN-7-pro-/222435815779?hash=item33ca353163:g:bvUAAOSwTuJYwLRG

Is this good for like basic C#/C++ programming? I need something to practice game design on the go because I can't stand my brother's autistic screeching whenever a dog barks.

>>61409379
Yeah and it involves using a hardware flasher anon

>>61410150
I mean if you really mean basic C/C++ yeah but I wouldn't throw much 3D work at it

>>61410150
bad battery life and bad performance

and the tablets are bulkier than the non-tablet versions

Is there any way to get a higher-resolution screen on an X220t, or a later model that keeps the Wacom pen with something more than 1366x768? I'm finding that it's a really handy cheap art machine but the resolution is always a little bummer.

As a kind of related question, would there be any way to make it display at 1920x1080 on the existing screen? I was thinking if I could mirror it to my bigger monitor I could get the benefit of a larger resolution while still being able to see exactly where my pen is going.

>>61409939
Is the burn-in specific to the IPS? I've noticed that when I'm working on one part of picture for a while then zoom out and there's a bit of lingering ghosting.

If I wait a year before I buy an X230, will the prices be a lot cheaper?

>>61411447
they're already <$150, how much cheaper are you expecting?

>>61411705
For an i7? Where?

t61
- Processor Core 2 Duo 1,80Ghz
- 250Gb Hard Disk
- 3Gb Ram

what's an acceptable price

So, I want a ThinkPad to program everywhere I go. Should I get the x250 or the T440p?

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I recently bought a p50 for cad/rhino. Really great so far. Not sure why they get so much hate on here.

Why do thinkpads have the left Ctrl key NOT in the lower left corner like all other keyboards? They have the "Fn" key there instead
Also, any keyboards that are made without touchpad?

>>61412744
You can switch it in the BIOS

>>61412762
Thanks, my TP is old af anyway, ill be looking into buying an Elitebook or dell latitude soon since there isnt so much demand of those

>>61409577
Mehhh. Already returned it and got an x200 instead. Thanks though

>>61412743

Numpad on a 15" maybe. The offset keyboard and trackpad hurts my autism.

>>61412879
Was a little awkward to get used to it. Really love the numpad for imputing measurements..

>>61412950

Well, I guess but it still annoys me. Its also annoying that all ThinkPads now use shitty back-mounted hinges instead of top mounted with the proper pivot point. Its fucking shit and it means no ports on the rear. I don't want my bastard ethernet and power on the sides.

anyone ever purchased a larger battery off ebay or something similar?

i have a t420s and the battery life isnt the greatest and id like to extend it as long as posible

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/252430727896 considering this atm

>>61409939
The burn in is fucking shit. It drives me nuts, but I don't think I can't stand tn panels anymore.

>>61412743
Along with having the same flaws as the rest of Lenovo's current lineup, they have very weak GPUs for their size.
They're still the best machines Lenovo is currently selling.

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>>61383397
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BFFAWHK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A2WRERIMEQIKWL&psc=1

Is this the best price besides eb@y?

>>61393215
>tfw mine died and they seem to have gone up in price on ebay
Why the fuck are they all $100+ now?

>>61413960
Offer up or craigslist.

>>61413984
market fluctuation.

>>61414003
offer up?

>>61406742
not really sure what you mean. you can scroll with the scroll thing on the touchpad fine though. i ended up installing xfce mint instead because of issues i was having with lubuntu and the media controls.

I'm about to buy an X1C with the i7 and 1440p screen.

Am I making a mistake?

>>61414024
Did I say offer up? Sorry wrong app, try grindr to find ThinkPads.

>>61414070
Nope unless overpriced

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Best place to buy a replacement battery for a T400?

>>61395886
I just use Lysol wipes to clean mine

>>61414379
A giving a blowjob is probably worth about a good condition t60.

Also r u still doing that challenge. I did a parody of you, kinda came off like a autistic shoenice though.

https://youtu.be/kgt2_AKzgkQ

>>61409148
Cpu and ram on x40 are soldered. If you want t40 consider t43p with flexview 1600x1200 screen

>>61414527
Oh my god, I love it!

The T61 will be coming in on Monday... so I should get to working on it, Monday night and we will see from there.

>>61393215
Wallpaper pls <3

>get a dankpad off ebay
>can't unscrew the HDD screws to put in an SSD

who /weakling/ here?

>>61415210
are you using your fingers...? and you are turning counter clockwise, right?

>>61415239
Yeah, I managed to get two of them off, but the other ones just won't budge. I don't care about the shitty HDD that's screwed in to the bracket at the moment so I've put it in the fridge to try and get the screws to contract.

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Is an HP Zbook 17 for me?
>I am big dumb cunt
>budget is 1000USD$
>Requirements: Art shite, animation, mild gaymen.

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is getting a thinkpad really a good idea? I only have a gamer pc and i need a laptop from time to time for college

a guy is selling a Lenovo ThinkPad W510 Mobile Workstation i7 with a 120gb ssd and 9gb ram. Should I get it?

>>61414514

I've tried water and vinegar, and that didn't work. Is iso alcohol safe to use?

>>61415579
They are good. if you already have a gaymeur PC, I'd reccomend a thin and light (ultrabook right?) or a 12 inch since either have qualities of being portable. That said, I don't think 5.5 pounds is heavy at all, pussies. 10 pound gaymurtops are heavy though.

Gaymur laptops are pointless, neither portable nor powerful. Only good laptops are Mobile Workstations, Ultrabooks, and Toughbooks. Anything else is shit.

>>61412879
>>61412950
>>61413156
Asus does a cool thing where numpad keys are half-width so it offsets less and you stioll get the utality of a numpad, a must for me.

Anyone know a Lenovo rep? Let them know about half-width numpad keys!

>>61415686
>wanting to ruin lenovo's keyboards even more

>>61415621

Nevermind. I just tried it, and it didn't work.

>>61415666
i dont need a gamer laptop, but i would like to get a light one
sadly this is the only thinkpad i could find in my country with the english keyboard

How much of an improvement is the Sandy bridge i7 over the i5. I want to know how much more it is worth forking over for one.

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>>61416089
In benchmarks, not much, in daily use barely noticeable.

>>61416111
Oh, okay. I looked them up on Intel's website. I was under the assumption that the i7 was a quad core. The 2 processors are pretty similar. It doesn't seem worth paying more for it, at least for me anyway.

>>61416175
It isnt. The only reason i have the i7 is because it was the cheaper option when buying locally. You can swap in a QM series processor, but it will most likely be housefire, especially if you have the DGPU.

>>61383418
no.

>Purchase request

>Budget:
any (minimize)
>Location:
oz
>Size:
any (minimize)
>Performance:
low temps
>Other requirements:
psx/ps2, ds/psp, dosbox emulated games

>>61414039
The 2570p anon said you could scroll with the trackpoint using the right click on hps? I was wondering if it worked on Linux

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So many cheapo T400, T430 and X200 on eBay. I want to bid them all I don't even know why. This is fucking irrational. Is this what becoming a collector feels like? How far am I in the autism /tpg/?

Are t420 batteries physically compatible with t430?(after the bios hack,of course)

>>61417306
T430/x230/x220/t420

How do i unlock a supervisor password on a ThinkPad W530 with a raspberry pi?
I got this W530 and it has a supervisor password, i know i can use a raspberry pi to delete the password in the EEPROM but i dont know here to start.

>>61418119
Yes. And its the EC, not BIOS.

>>61389520
this is not correct at all

>>61389520
We mean ME
Good luck turning that off in bios

I heard the X220 is getting libreboot support soonish. Is the X220T similar enough to get it at the same time?

Where can I check what RAM and SSDs will be compatible with my t420?

>>61419510
Probably
>>61419910
In your t420, most likely it is.

>>61419408
>We mean ME
Isn't that why he >'ed "not flashing coreboot"?

any trustworthy sellers who won't charge an arm and a leg for international shipping? I'm looking for a T420/X230/X230t etc

>>61419910
any 2.5" or msata SSD
ram depends on the cpu, google it and you'll find intel's site and it will say what ram is compatible, mostly any ddr3 so-dimm

WHEN WILL THEY REVEAL THE RETRO THINKPAD
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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What did my T410 mean by this

Anyone up for helping bug fix? Bluetooth is enabled in bios, bluetooth.service is enabled, but bluetoothctl insists there are no controllers. T420.

>>61420511
are you sure you have a bluetooth module?

>>61420449
try to pull out the battery, and the charger. Then press the power button. And then if you put all back in place it should work

>>61420511
bluetooth port is enabled. It doesn't mean bluetooth device is present in your system
try installing gentoo

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Should I? $500

>>61422232
>Edge
No.

>>61422232
$500 american money? lmao no
you can find T530's for cheaper with better specs

>>61422232
$500 1366x768
No

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>>61422232
>15,6" 1366x768 non-IPS

>>61422296
except t530 doesn't have a 740m 2GB option for sure.

I've forced the CPU on my T42 to the lowest frequency of 600Mhz and 4chan still runs pretty well.
A shame how much heavier everything else is.

>>61423387
Web developers are trash, news at 11

>>61417867
doesn't seem to no. i can't imagine it would be hard to script that though

>>61422232
>edge
>that screen resolution
Fuck no. How the fuck did you wind up on /g/ being that tech illiterate?

>>61423598
>pentium processors designed last millennium are trash, news at 11

once I got the theme fonts fixed, 14" QHD display is pretty badass.

>>61420403
December 12th senpai

>>61409148
Better to get an X60 than X40.

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uni student looking for something decent to get me by, pls and thank you

Budget: preferably sub $500, but I can go a bit over
Location: North America, I guess? Not sure what this field is for, but I'll mostly be using this around uni, carrying it in a backpack
Size: at least 13" 1080p, I need a decent sized screen for drawfagging on my tablet
Performance: looking for 8 GB, processor that can handle moderate DAW work, little interest in gaming
Other requirements: a keyboard like classic thinkpads that feels good to type on, not totally backbreaking to carry in a backpack during long walks

>>61424100
That's release date. I want reveal.

My X230 with the i5 3320M is stuck running at 1.20 Ghz even though I have the battery and power adapter plugged in, anyone know what the shit is going on? It's been running fine ever since I got it up until now

>>61424744

dell 13"?

>>61425438
OS? temps? what hardware monitor?

>>61425481
Windows 10, Activity manager, normal temps because it unthrottles itself and runs normally when I'm running it off the battery, and I'm not using a new charger or anything like that. This is weird as hell.

New thread:

>>61425583