Which one and why

>>61379447
Ubuntu, genuinely surprised Linux Mint has survived as long as it has, it's a shitty Ubuntu reskin with lots of included bloat and ugly rice from 2007, a genuinely awful distro, I'd rather use Hannah Montana Linux.

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Forgetting someone.....?

>>61379447
none of them,
kubuntu or xubuntu is what you want

>>61379447
Ubuntu is the GOAT of Linux. Between Unity and apt, there's no real reason to use any other distro (unless you have some good reason, e.g. Gentoo/Arch for hobbyists)

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>>61379656

>>61379684
obviously i meant ubuntu means kubuntu.
you mean people actually use vomit garbage gnome?

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>>61379447
LinuxMint, because Cinnamon works like shit in Ubuntu and Unity suck balls.

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>>61379685
>unity

xfce mint

>>61379447
Personal preference I'd use neither
But I'd have to say use ubuntu but not straight ubuntu get a flavor or something. Unity is hot garbage.

>>61379711
>implying anything is better
Unity hate is a meme

Gentoo

>>61379656
Lunduke pls go

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Mint because cinnamon

>>61379726
LXQt is love. LXQt is life.

>>61379744
Cinnamon looks cool but I don't want to use Mint, heard it's buggy

>>61379447
>LinuxMint
this.
Ubuntu's fucking garbage and Cinnamon's truly a god-tier DE.

LM needs to move to Debian ASAP.

>>61379700
>you mean people actually use vomit garbage gnome
no, but some ppl might use vomit garbage unity, which is about as bad

>>61379756
use Cinnamon + Arch. or Cinnamon + Debian. or Cinnamon + Antegros etc.
Cinnamon works well with pretty much all of them.

Debian because it's stable.
Arch because it's fun.

Now that Shuttlecock is leaving in a huff because no one likes his shitty Unity environment the new people who take charge of Ubuntu might be more welcoming to Mint so that we dont have to ask the question which as they will both finally be part of the same family

>>61379773
How is it with Ubuntu?

>>61379821
kina like mint, but worse

>>61379829
How so?

>>61379782
agree on debian.
arch breaking when you update your system is fun? whatever floats your boat, anon

>>61379821
Cinnabuntu doesnt exist yet, so probably shit.

>>61379927
Damn. Hope that comes out soon, I don't want to have to use GNOME.

Gentoo

>>61379726
It's already abandoned. It was a more bloated yet less customisable and less stable version of GNOME. The only good DEs remaining are
>KDE
>XFCE
>GNOME
And nothing else until LXQt becomes a thing.

Ubuntu is a polished OS designed and maintained by professionals with secure defaults and stable releases.

Mint is Ubuntu riced up by hobbyist neckbeards who think they know better.

If you're a hobbyist neckbeard, why not just configure Ubuntu to suit yourself and cut out the middle man?

>>61380155
>And nothing else until LXQt becomes a thing.
Wait, it's still not? I've been gone for three fucking years, and it's still not a thing? How long do you faggots wait before you give up on something?

Fedora, fast updates, good stability, no bloat or bullshit.

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>Ctrl + f
>"Fedora"
>No results

>>61379447
Gentoo

>>61380291
Lubuntu with LXQt isnt a think yet (stable).

LXQt has been on the Debian stable repos for a while, Ive had it on my laptop since Stretch stable released.

>>61379447
Linux Mint, because Ubuntu is about to lose the only thing that made it unique, besides all of it's bugs.

>ITT: people choose the worse operating system because it has the better DE
Holy shit i can't tell if this is summerfagging or if it's just the natural evolution from desktop threads being killed off and no one wanting to leave /g/ for another board

>>61380830
Since you can install Cinnamon on every major distro, Linux Mint isn't necessary anymore so it'll loose users.
And since it's a community project, it'll die.

>>61379447
RHEL/CentOS are the only distros that matter in the real world

>>61380858
Ewww

Please go with debian at least

Why do people always meme mint for a beginner distros when debian will actually teach you about linux and fsf

>>61379656
>supposed to work with Ryzen
>install it on Ryzen build
>doesn't work

Sasuga, Deutschland.

>>61380291
>How long do you faggots wait before you give up on something?
Some people are still waiting for GNU Hurd.

>>61381097
Im distro hopping rn. im not 100% on what i want. Ill prob end up with debian

>>61379726
>Implying Budgie doesn't exist

thats a funny way to depict the arch logo.

>>61380155
Mate is good, gnome 2 was the best DE and lately its becoming less of a fork and more its own thing. Tried it recently and was surprised on how much better it got since it came out

Btw, is LXQt usable yet?

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>>61379447
Ubuntu is the most supported distro and get some pubs with Steam (You can see a mention to Ubuntu on the download page) so even a normie gaymur can know it's name.

And even if we consider the big progression of Fedora/OpenSuse/Arch on the noobie's market, for like 10 years Ubuntu was the first choice and the first recommend distro on forums, and many of us start with it. (I'm very nostalgic)

So please, stop trying to fracture more the Linux community, and choose an Ubuntu-based distro, whatever the DE.

Mint because fuck Unity and (((Canonical)))

>>61379859
>arch breaking when you update your system is fun?
obviously you have never actually used Arch. Once in a while, individual packages break, but updates break the system rarely, apart from having to refresh pacman-key.

>>61379656
trash at both a desktop and server

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>>61380858
>chrome botnet
>skype botnet
>discord botnet

why even bother with linux? just install windows10 if you are that eager to give out your info

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>>61381165
>LXQt usable yet?

LOL

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>>61381863
openSUSE is the only distro that includes thumbnail preview in Firefox's file picker

>>61381924
Also, KDE Neon with Chrome, haven't tried with other browsers, man it's great not to be a GTKuck anymore.

>>61381065
>Since you can install Cinnamon on every major distro, Linux Mint isn't necessary anymore so it'll loose users.
Fair enough.
>since it's a community project, it'll die.
Like Arch Linux, or Gentoo? Nope.

Mint is the best distro I've ever used. Yes, it is Ubuntu LTS optimized for the Cinnamon DE. My only criticism for Mint is they include lots of programs that I never use, but so does Ubuntu LTS.

Switched from Ubuntu to Mint back when MATE was new, now Ubuntu MATE is a great distro but Mint MATE has way better defaults. I use Mint Cinnamon right now.

I would never recommend any other distro to a linux beginner, and to be dead honest I will never put a different distro on bare metal for myself. I like my computers to work for years with no problems. You can call me a noob if you want but I know how to edit config files to do shit like you do in arch, but why bother if complete distros like buntu and Mint have graphical programs that do that shit for me? doesn't make you smart to do that shit

the only thing you can really knock Mint for is it's gonna be out of date by design. not bleeding edge or whatever, but I don't care about that shit at all

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install Mint, Cinnamon is better than any official Ubuntu flavor and Mint is community driven distro, not jewish canonical amazon gaynet

>>61382431
>>61382795
Except for the fact Cinnamon will probs never get Wayland support
I mean I hope it does, but it looks bleak
https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/issues/5201

>>61379447
Desktop Linux is dead. Mobile Linux is dead.

What have you been doing the last ten years?

Mint actually has a lot of things thought through that Ubuntu doesn't. Like turning off 3d acceleration in vbox (which still doesn't work properly). Though I hate to clean their botnet after each update.
Was using Mint for a long time and was never disapointed.

If you don't know which package does what - Mint is a good choice.
But if you know your way around Linux - there is no better choice than Ubuntu minimal. It already has a lot of necessary packages that make a life easier but does't has usual distro botnet. Perfect.

>>61379447
Mint is a security risk and should not be considered a viable distribution.

Ubuntu is all you need if you have no clue what you are doing >>61379656 is also perfectly fine.

>>61379744
Idiot. You can run cinnamon on Ubuntu, without the security risks associated with using Mint.

>>61380830
The only things which makes Mint unique is its lack of security.

>>61382663
>I would never recommend any other distro to a linux beginner
Maybe strop recommending security risks?

>>61382795
You can use Cinnamon on Ubuntu retard. Mint also uses is downstream from Ubuntu you get the same jewish code, just made worse by idiots.

I don't like Canonical but would pick Ubuntu. They're the much more professional of the two, and place much more emphasis on security than the Mint guys.

>>61386257
which security risks are you talking about?
The only way you could be less secure is if you don't update your system frequently.
I also remeber when Mint guys had their ISO's infected but that's more Wordpress thing than Mint itself

>>61386257
>Maybe stop recommending security risks?
stop this meme, Mint might not be the distro for your top secret CIA nigger server but it's wayyyyyyy more secure than any Windows installation. If you need some super l337 hardened impenetrable linux distribution you're absolutely not a beginner and wouldn't be taking advice on which distro to install anyway

>You can use Cinnamon on Ubuntu retard
and why would you recommend a beginner to try switching DE's with all the conflicts and problems that could arise from doing that? If you want Xfce you don't install Kubuntu then install Xfce on top of it.

>>61386296
Mint has left some security updates to packages out of their repos in the past because they conflicted with other stuff there. You'll probably find articles on it by searching on a search engine.

>>61386313
>mint is more secure than windows
I want summer to leave.

>>61379447
Fedora MATE

>>61386335
what you won't be able to find is any Mint exclusive vulnerabilities, just this theoretical bullshit about renamed packages and disinfo about "holding back updates" because the graphical Mint Update app lets you choose what you update, all ths FUD btw which is attributed to some butthurt Debian dev, and yes I've seen the screencap from that years old forum post that gets posted in every mint thread

Mint gets every security update that Ubuntu LTS does, period

>>61381910
Is that a yes? You can't tell if it's stable from a screenshot. Also, the fuck is that resolution? If it's a maximized VM window, I can't tell what your native screen res is supposed to be, 1440x1080?

>>61386502
*1440x1050

>>61386450
Mint is still Linux and it is more secure than Windows by default

>>61386558
please be bait

>>61379447
Arch

>>61386581
hop on google and show me somebody who runs Linux Mint that got their files encrypted by some slavs demanding bitcoin? just find me an example of anybody using Mint who got any adware or anything bad? their website getting hacked doesn't count, that's a wordpress vulnerability and nothing to do with the actual os

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>>61380263
>with secure defaults
>>61386262
>emphasis on security
<-- reminder

>people hate Mint now

What happened?

>>61386909
people hate literally every OS and every distro on /g/. Mint gets a little more hate because it's very popular and works automatically, your little sister would be able to install it and use it with no instructions and that bugs the kids on /g/ who think there should be some kind of 'you must be this autistic to install this distro' barrier, like with Arch, and they pat themselves on the back because instead of a windows popping up that says "what would you like your username to be" they had to open, edit and save a file in the terminal

>>61386909
It became obsolete. Circa 2011 it was hard to get MATE and Cinnamon working on stock Ubuntu, so people accepted the price of running a worse distro for not having to fuck around to get those to work.

>>61386313
Then use the Cinnamon spin of Fedora, it will certainly be better. Or just use a better DE, Cinnamon is nothing special compared to Xfce, KDE and MATE.

>>61386973
that and its bloaty as fuck.

>>61387091
MATE is BAE

>>61387091
I've used all of them I just think Cinnamon is the best no-nonsense, i don't really care to customize that much the defaults are easy and it's intuitive. I really like MATE, KDE was buggy but I used it when it was 'bad' so idk.

Also, the Mint MATE distro has way nicer defaults than the Ubuntu MATE distro, I switched to Mint from Ubuntu when MATE was it's thing. TBQH I wouldn't mind switching back but i like the Cinnamon menu more. both de's are just in the background, i'm more of a programs guy than a DE guy

>>61387109
i agree it's bloaty as fuck but I've used it for years and it is still lighter than Ubuntu Unity which is what I switched from

>>61387109
Most user of /g/ install arch with bloat.

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>>61387109
honestly, programs aren't really 'bloat' it still uses like 1/3 of the ram that Windows 7 would. a lot of the shit you consider bloat is why i like mint. the graphical program to format USB sticks, the graphical program to burn .iso's to usb sticks are things i want. it's not hard to uninstall programs in Cinnamon either, you can right click and uninstall from the menu ffs. there isn't bullshit running in the background slowing your computer down by default the way there is in windows.

if you only want programs installed that you use everyday then mint or ubuntu aren't for you. i personally don't give a shit if i have LibreOffice's spreadsheet program because I have gigabytes upon gigabytes of hard drive that will never be used, just doesn't bother me at all

and i like the fact that becauwse of the bloat i can plug and play hardware like printers, scanners, cameras you name it because all those evil bloaty drivers

>>61386909
They're antisemitic as fuck
It's literally HitlerOS

>>61386612
desktops getting attacked in the wild less != more secure

>>61380354
>CTRL + f
>"Fedora"
>1 result
This thread has been tainted

>>61383904
>Mobile Linux is dead
android? whats that?

>>61387790
>being against israel makes you antisemetic
>>>/r/conservative

Ubuntu.

Mint is for luddite retards who still can't handle the world moving on from Windows 7.

LFS

Isn't Mint basically a superset of Ubuntu (minus Unity)?

Seriously, I wonder what the hell Canonical was thinking with Unity. The Windows 8 of Linux desktop environments.

>>61387603
This
Bloat is literally a non-issue nowadaya unless you want to be a l33t cybur punk with a pc from 1990

>>61388269
I seem to recall they came up with it just after the iPad was released. This was when dollar signs lit up in literally every tech executive's eyes and they all demanded tablet-capable UIs

>>61388324
Wrong
Unity was created with netbooks in mind, they where trying to make the desktop more efficient when 1024x768 became obsolete and 1366x768 was becoming standart. The sidebar was a logical step to take for web browsing general
Gnome shell was intended for touchscreens

>>61388269
They where trying to distance themselves from the clusterfuck that was gnome 3 and it was the right move since it was unusable and unstable af at the time and would alienate their userbase more than unity.
It took about 10 releases for gnome 3 to be decent

LMDE(openbox or xfce)>xubuntu>ubuntu>mint(ubuntu)

>>61388660
>Gnome 3
>decent

Pick one.

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>>61382795
>installing Mint and having Gentoo ASCII art
This is a crime

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>>61379447
How about use somethin that is actually stable and upgrades without shitting itself.

Manjaro is way better that Mint when the subject is being begginer friendly.

What can any1 say about these ones:
ZorinOS
ElementaryOS

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>using systemXD

>>61389885
>using a spic distro

>>61389897
don't worry I dual boot apartheid linux to balance it out

>>61389682
Gross.

I use Ubuntu because I tried it first and it worked. I figure at that rate it's all just Linux in a different wrapper so who cares?

>>61389024
I would say they are about the same, manjaro looks and feels kinda newer though. I am used to debian however so pacman just confused me as I am used to just doing stuff like sudo apt get etc. I might just be autistic but I couldn't find a debian distro of it.

>>61389682
Elementary is not too bad if you want an aesthetic OS, mint is just a lot better in terms of functionality however.

>>61388269
>Isn't Mint basically a superset of Ubuntu (minus Unity)?
No. It is an insecure, hacked together mess mixing debian and ubuntu.

>>61386909
It is a bad operating system and in many ways inferior to its upstream distributions.

>>61386558
No. It is not.

The developers are clueless retards who either intentionally expose their users to security risks or have no business in maintaining a distro.

>>61389936
There are some legitimate differences, especially when it comes freedom and uptodateness.

Nothing to throw away what you are comfortable with though.

Mint for older PC and ubuntu for newer hardware ones but I like Mint for simplicity.

>>61390106
>mixing debian and ubuntu

Isn't Ubuntu based on Debian?

>>61387590
>gook trash
>one is reliable but slow & boring
>the other comes in a turbo-diesel that can btfo all others in its price range but it explodes after 5000 miles

>>61390246
It is, but Mint fetches packages from both repositories. If things break, they just don't include the repository, so you have mix matched versions of software and dependencies that are messed up.

Not to mention they care very little about security, they sometimes won't push certain security features out because it just breaks their system (do to their mixture of Debian and Ubuntu base packages).

If you really want Cinnamon, get Ubuntu Cinnamon. I would not recommend Mint.

>>61388601
You're right anon I remember now.
GNOME was definitely chasing the tablet though (it even looked identical to iOS of the time)

>>61386641
This is literally the same thing as Debian, anything from the nonfree/multimedia/backports repo's etc don't receive security updates.

If you want security look into hardened Gentoo or Fedora, both come with SELinux.

>>61391771
Just to add on, I'm not knocking Ubuntu or Debian, they're both great distributions.

>>61391771
Except Debian's free repos encompass most of Ubuntu's universe and multiverse.

>>61392391
Debian contains a LOT of unmainted/abandoned software.

I've been using Mint for almost a year now, and after finally giving Ubuntu a fair shake I'm really questioning what the point of Mint is supposed to be.
So as a Mint user, I say Ubuntu because it seems like you might as well use it.

>>61379447
total newb? Mint

otherwise *buntu

/thread

ubuntu

test

>>61379447
Ubuntu, because Unity doesn't waste vertical screen space. (oh, wait canonical killed unity)
tl;dr, doesn't matter, just make sure whatever distro you chose got i3, awesome or bspwm in the repos.

test2

>>61394972
>>61395032
Yes, your bot works, congrats

actually test2

>>61395043
testing trips xd
made a quick golang script to bruteforce some.

test3

>>61395060
>made a quick golang script to bruteforce some.
Yeah, it's not working, not even close, sorry.

>>61395111
>>61395111
what do you mean? :(

>>61395150
That your toy project doesn't work.
I don't mean to be harsh or a dick, but, it simply doesn't work.

Debian!

>>61379476
kys

>>61382663
>the only thing you can really knock Mint for is it's gonna be out of date by design
And the fact that they introduce namespace collisions in their package repositories.
And the fact that they regularly fail to update their ssl certs.
And the fact that they've let hackers infect their install media downloads.
And the fact that they fail to push security updates.
And the fact that they're distributing proprietary software without license or permission.

Mint is the worst fucking distro to ever gain any sort of popularity.

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>>61379447
>Not using Moon Os.
>Plebs everywhere.