/hpg/ - Headphone General

Do I need an amp for my HD 598SR?

>>61378771
No.

>>61378771
no

>>61378771
>>61378803
More complicated answer: no, you don't need an amp, but you could benefit from a cheap DAC+amp like a Fiio E10k because digital volume control lowers signal to noise ratio: http://www.esstech.com/files/3014/4095/4308/digital-vs-analog-volume-control.pdf
A DAC+amp with an analog volume knob would solve this problem. You only really need this if you can currently hear hiss while listening to your HD598SR. If you cannot currently hear hiss, you do not need an amp.

>>61378771
Short: No
Long: You could probably benefit from a cheap usb dac+amp like the Schiit Fulla2, as 598s have messy impedance stability across frequency, and they will sound different with an amp. Just not that different.
A dac+amp ensures you have a good dac implementation you can plug into any computer and get good sound of, as computer analog audio outputs are hit or miss hell.

>>61378744
I want that fag to explain why the magni 2 can't 'unlock' the potential of the 600.

>>61379151
He can't and won't.

K702 or K712?

>>61379192
K612, but it needs something powerful like a Magni 2 to drive it. K712 has too much bass and K702 is too bright.

>>61379204
Do I really need something that powerful or DAC X6 would be enough?

>>61379228
As a general rule I'd recommend using an amp that can drive your headphones to at least 115 dB. While this is too loud for listening, this gives plenty of extra headroom for sources mastered at a very low level.
https://www.audiobot9000.com/match/akg/k-612-pro/with/schiit/magni-2 shows a Magni 2 drives it to 116 dB, just over my recommended level. I wouldn't recommend anything less powerful than a Magni 2.
DAC X6 may power them to a good level with most sources but may lack the power to achieve adequate volume with certain sources mastered at a very low level.

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Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

Thinking about getting the ATH - m50x, are they actually any good or is it just an overhyped meme ?

>>61378843
what do you mean "hiss" like when I'm not doing anything at all?

>>61379430
Sennheiser HE1. It's amazing, but I wish it could let me hear a .2 dB difference at 20 Hz and 20,000 Hz. Alas, that's impossible.

>>61379473
i have a m40x and they are ok

>>61379487
When listening to music/movies/anime/TV/games. If the hiss is loud enough to not be completely masked by other audio content, then you can benefit from an amp+DAC.

>>61379495
>HE1
proof or you're full of shit.

>>61379519
I'll show proof when the guy in the last thread shows proof he's a Beyer employee.

>>61379533
I won't be holding my breath.

So, should I get the beyerdynamic pads for my v6, or is there anything else?

>>61379192
Both are brilliant, but the 712 has to be considered better overall because of the extra bass.

>>61379570
The Beyer pads will change the sound too much. Get these: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/888545-REG/Auray_eps_mdr7506_Genuine_Sheepskin_Leather_Earpads.html

>>61379533
So you're lying. Your'e both fucking faggots. Kill yourselves.

>>61379204
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK612.pdf This is a really fantastic measurement.

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>>61379570
Some would say that making a headphone that's more ear raping than Beyers is impossible, but Sony did it

>>61379533
Just you wait. The DT 1880 will kill Sennheiser.

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>>61379631
sure bud

Beyerdynamic has the severely under-appreciated DT250, which is overshadowed by the inferior DT770/880/990. AKG has the severely under-appreciated K612, which is overshadowed by the inferior K701/Q701/K702/K712.
What are underappreciated models from other brands?

>>61379618
Which one?
Definitely not the mdr-cd900st, favored by kisaragi chihaya.

>>61379151
There's this dumb meme that the HD600 somehow magically starts sounding better with higher quality amps. To a degree, this is true because of the dumb impedance curve, but past a certain point (very low output impedance, low noise, low distortion), it doesn't matter.

>>61378744
I've recently read that turning off schiit amps while your headphones are connected to it can damage it over time. Should I be afraid of my HD650s (with magni2/modi2 uber)?

>>61380049
>I've recently read that turning off schiit amps while your headphones are connected to it can damage it over time.
You've been misled.
>Should I be afraid of my HD650s (with magni2/modi2 uber)?
No, the magni2 has a relay protection. It will cut the output immediately when power is lost, and delay output until startup is done on power on.
>what's the story then
Asgard, the very first Schiit device to hit the market, did some scary swinging of drivers on some specific headphone during turn on. No headphone was ever damaged by it, but it gave schiit bad press and caused some drama.
Schiit handled the issue by stopping deliveries, adding relays to the design, retrofitting the relays to stock and offering to retrofit them, for free, to all devices that had already been shipped.
Schiit's own account of the incident can be found in the tale of schiit, "Chapter 12: Schiit Goes Evil?"
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up.701900/

Where's Idol Trash?

>>61380310
Probably off failing a blind test somewhere.

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>>61379430
Hola.

>>61379593
how about the shure 940 pads then?

>>61380451
Velours in general will change the sound a lot, and not for the better.

is it better to turn up the application's volume or the computer's volume for better quality of audio?

>>61380502
If you have an analog volume knob all software volume control should be at 100% because digital volume control lowers signal to noise ratio: http://www.esstech.com/files/3014/4095/4308/digital-vs-analog-volume-control.pdf
If you don't have an analog volume knob then it really shouldn't matter.

>>61380419

>Niku

...you're alright.

>>61378744
Is the Fostex TH-X00 the best value in closed headphones (if you can get past the attached cables)?

>>61379204
if I want something like the K612 but more solid what do I get? I watched the Z review for it and it looks like it's built really cheap.

>>61380049
They're fine now. They used to have that problem with older Asgards
>>61381395
If you don't mind paying $100 more for detachable cables and smoother treble, there's the EMU Teak

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Sennheiser fanboy here, had my HD598s (the original cream ones) for 6 years now and they're the best pair of headphones I've ever used. Other cans I'm using at the moment are Audio-Technica MSR7 for portable.

Are HD650s worth the extra money for an increase in sound, and would they be a noticable improvement over 598s when paired with a Magni 2U amp?

Also, what are some open-back competitors that compare to HD650s at a similar price point?

>>61379823
K44 if you can mod it to reflect/dampen the backwave. K77 and K99 are not much different with that treatment, just pricier. Mine sounds quite flat and velvety.

>>61382025
>Sennheiser fanboy
Don't be a fanboy.
>HD598 love
Much love. But the HD600 are better.
>HD650
Are lesser HD600. They're more expensive yet less neutral. More power to bass, a little more to midrange, way less treble. It's meant for people who are overly sensitive to treble and/or like their bass.
General opinion is that they're worse than HD600, but of course some people do prefer HD650 regardless. YMMV.
Personally, I do own HD600 and I find it does the treble rolloff just right.

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>>61380310
>idol trash
Goes to sleep. Been a crazy night marathoning youjo senki. Tanya a cute. Good night, all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx100RJUKmg

>>61378744
What are some best headphones for a EDM listener?

>>61383171
DT770, TH-X00, EMU Teak

>>61383171
>best for EDM
Depends on how you enjoy EDM.
If you don't know, neutral signature should be your starting point. Standard advice is HD600, but it depends on your budget. HD579, HD598, HD558 are cheaper options.

>>61383103
Why the heck are HD650 so much more expensive then?

>>61383210
Likely to trick you into thinking it's better. Like the higher model number. It gets crazier; Almost nobody likes HD700, and it's even more expensive.

>>61378744
I'm basically an audio normie
I've got an old pair of Sony MDR XB500 right now, but they're starting to fall apart, and I'm looking for a little better quality.

The options I've settled on from general research on headphones are:

Sennheiser HD598 - $147
Beyerdynamic DT-990 - $227

Am I going to really notice much difference between the two? Or even between these and my current headphones?
And are they both fairly comfortable, especially in comparison to my current headphones?

Use-case is basically just, movies, youtube, gaming, music; typical stuff.

I'd rather not have to buy an amp or DAC.

I'm open to alternative headphone suggestions

Do the driver millimeters really matter? I'm choosing between a 40mm and a 45mm, is this really a significant difference?

>>61383593
No, it's irrelevant.

>Budget
$150 or less
>Location
US
>Source
Computer with Fiio A1 (Replacing it soon with an E10K)
>Type of headphone
Full Size Or On Eear
>Open or closed
Open. For some reason my head gets really warm with closed headphones.
>Comfort level
Good enough for at least 2 hour sessions of games/music
>Sound signature
Doesn't matter too much as long as the bass isn't non existent and it has a good sound stage.
>Past headphones
Superlux HD668B

Someone at my work recommended HD 558 and doing the foam mod.

>>61380419

Heard the HD800 for the first time yesterday. That particular pair has been modded with the resonator thingie according to the owner.

...They sound bloody amazing. Human vocal sounds so clear and the separation between instruments is as clear as day. /hpg/ must be talking out of their arse when they said that the HD800 sound like the DT880 because they are nothing alike.

Now I'm saving up for one.

>>61383103
>way less treble
Way to overexaggerate to fit your shitty agenda.

>>61383979
Dud, that was just placeblosightedlisteningobjectiveopinon we all know that you can eq 10$ walmart headphones to sound like utopia.

>>61383328
DT 990 should be cheaper than $200 USD.

Depends if you want a relaxed sound (HD 598) or a more energetic sound (DT 990).

>>61383979
Ignore the faggot who keeps shilling and complaining about treble

>Budget
200€
>Location
Europe
>Source
phone
>Type of headphone
Inears for my daily mobile use
>Open or closed
ill use them in public so closed would be better
>Sound signature
dont really mind, something warm and open would be nice
>Past headphones
Bose SoundTrue, got them as a present, they were okay but broke last week

thinking about getting shure se315, anyone has experience with em? or is it worth to wait for the 415 and save money?

>>61383210
Because hes full of shit. The 650s have more range, sound stage and bass. They are a slightly modified version of the 600s but ultimately very comparable. They arent worth 100 bucks more, depending on where youre from, but very likely 50 bucks if you like Sennheisers inhouse sound signature. I mean, where I am from the 650s are only like 30 bucks more expensive than the 600s at the moment.

Fiio A3 as portable AMP?

>>61383328
>The options I've settled on from general research on headphones are:
They're totally different. HD598 is neutral, whereas DT990 is v-shaped.
Accuracy-wise, the HD598 is of course better.
Just keep in mind there's other options. HD599 is a refresh (newer) with better bass, generally considered better. HD579 has almost the same frequency response, but costs considerably less, so it's a standard recommendation.

>>61379473
get an M-40x and mod a bit or Status CB-1s, much cheaper and both sound better

>>61384337
They're known as dark headphones.

>>61386492
I have one, I like it. nicely built and can drive up to about 300ohm impedance along with the high gain level

>>61384730
ALL HEADPHONES OPERATING IN THEIR PROPER RANGE SOUND THE SAME

Thought I might as well post this. I bought the SHP9500 because it was recommended here. I'm extremely happy with them. They're unbelievably comfortable and the audio quality is much better than the Bose headphones I used previously. I don't think anyone would have any complaints with the audio quality of these things even if you're autistic about it. The one "negative" to consider if you're going to buy them is that the sound leak is really high, more than the Bose I had previously for example. If people are sitting around you they will hear what you're doing, if it's above 15% volume or so. This isn't a problem for me because I use them in my home but if you're for example living with a room mate or you want to use these in public it's not really an option.

>>61382025
HD600 are much better than HD650.

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I'm so hyped.

>>61382025
Get the 600.

>>61383979
There is a good reason why Sennheiser has sold like 50 thousands of 'em.

>>61386492
Amp isn't an acronym. Don't capitalise it.

>>61388795
winamp logo did much damage.

>>61388848
kek

>>61388848
I love my magni2000

>>61388435
Don't listen to this hipster 650 is a lot better. 600 doesn't even recognise low end.

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>>61382025
HD600 is better: https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/the-ultimate-hd600-vs-hd650-poll-closed-hd600-wins.698372/
>>61388902
>no bass, they said

>>61382025
Get the HD600.
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/very-important-sennheiser-hd-580-hd-600-and-hd-650-page-3
>The HD 650 is rather more problematic to me. While the sound remains very similar to the HD 600 and does seem a tad more refined, it also seems a bit warmer, lusher, and thicker...more "veiled" if you like. Yes, in this case it does seem to warrant the discriptor. Just a bit too much of good thing. I still think it's a great headphone and have no problem recommending it, but with a $100 lower price, and a more neutral and snappier sound, I think the HD 600 is the better buy.
>Yup, I'll say it, one of the worlds greatest headphones. Lush and inviting, the HD 600 is simply one of the best buys in the world of audiophile headphones. Easily paired with just about headphone amplifier, they will sound good directly from the headphone jack of a receiver, and will improve nicely when combined with better gear. Going up on the "Wall of Fame" as the best open headphone in it's price range.

>>61388323
Yeah my dude, what did you EQ your 4.99$ shitphones to?

>>61388902
650 doesn't recognize anything but low end.

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>>61389020
I sprung for really fancy $15 headphones from Best Buy but they were on sale for $7.99

>>61388467
It's gonna crack my dude. Good luck.

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>>61378744
Idol trash here.
>audio technica
They apparently make some cans for people with huge heads.
(spotted in akiba)

>>61389360
Since when do hikikomori leave their toilets? You "spotted" a pic online.

So why would I buy an Uber of the;
Magni 2
Modi 2
Also Magni/Modi 3 when? Should I just wait?

>>61389666
Uber modi has optical input and uber magni has more power and passthrough

>>61389666
>modi 2 uber
Has optical and coax spdif inputs, giving it some value over just using a fulla2 as dac.
Uber metal (different from non-uber). Looks good with uber magni. (some people do care)
>magni uber
Slightly more power (irrelevant)
preamp outs (the important one)
uber metal, looks good with uber modi

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>>61378744
post your setups

my sister wants a pair of open ear headphones with a builtin amplifier / volume control somewhere on the device (like the Razer Megalodon, which is a headset but it doesnt matter if it has a microphone)

can you guys help me find a pair, i filled out a template but it seems kind of redundant, she's just going to buy another pair because her last one broke

>Budget
hard, $80-130

>Location
USA

>Source
plugged into a desktop 100% of the time

>Type of headphone
full sized

>Open or closed
open

>Budget
$100
>Location
USA
>Source
LG V20
>Type of headphone
in-ears
>Open or closed
ill use them in public sometimes, so maybe closed?
>Sound signature
Neutral, slightly dark, open sound stage.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD598

>>61378744
Where can I get the same kind of microphone as in OP pic?
Do they have inherent flaw that explain why they aren't more widespread?

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Anyone itt can recommend a wireless headset that's actually compatible with Linux?

>>61390159
Etymotic MK5 or HF5
MK5 are neutral, HF5 are slightly dark.

>>61390177
Schiit Fulla 2

>>61378744
I have a budget of $200, I'd prefer 5.1 or more, on-ear headphones, with no microphone, my only concern is that it works well with Linux, does not matter whether it's USB or Audio jack.

What does soundstage even mean and how is it anything but a meme when you have only one speaker playing directly into one ear

>>61390558
>I'd prefer 5.1 or more
Do yourself a favor and read the links in the OP.

>>61390582
I'm a brainlet, I don't want to think too much, choose for me senpai.

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>32 bit
>balanced out
>20 hour battery
>99 shekels
What the fiek
This looks like a much better value proposition than the fulla 2. Damn, fiio.

>>61390625
>$200
>choose for me senpai
Grab some HD579.

>>61390722
>more bits
>dsd meme
... better?

>>61390905
More bits = more theoretical headroom to play with EQ/digital volume control
So yes.

>>61390923
That sure works for 24 bit, but 32 is stretching it.

>>61390923
>unironically believes he's getting more than 19 bits effective out of that 32bit input.

>>61390948
Equivalent number of bits. Schiit explains this on their website under the FAQ for the yggdrasil. A 32 bit dac is really only 19.5 bits or so.

So rather than buying a Magni 2 Uber I should just buy a Vali 2, right?

>>61390985
If for some reason you want tubes.
Just keep in mind tubes need to be replaced from time to time, as they have short life.

>>61390962
>because you only get 19 bits effective it's better to just get even less effective bits out of a "24" bit dac

>>61390722
I'll wait for proper reviews, I have a lot of faith in FiiO but >DSD

>>61391021
>holding audiophool thoughts

>>61391017
But it'll sound better, right?

>>61391042
>t. Audiophool

>>61391055
...
...
...
... right?

>>61378744
600 magni owner here. My current chink iems are the piston p3's and they're pretty good. What are the new hot chink iems lads? I need something new to buy. Please don't say kz ATE, they're terrible imo.

>>61391087
No. Anything that costs more than what I can afford is obviously audiophoolery and placebo.

>>61379192
K712

>>61391055
It will not sound audibly more accurate. If it sounds audibly different that means it's less accurate.

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>>61379430
I use an ifi micro amp

>>61390887
as long as I know for sure it will work well with Linux!

>>61391213
>excellent taste in waifu
>excellent taste in headphones

>>61391188
lmfao at you spergs who the fuck wants it to sound more "accurate"
I just want it to sound BETTER lol

>>61391215
Average Loonix tard who thinks his retarded deprecated OS somehow affects a physical hardware connection
get real you fucking inbred cocksucker

>>61391320
M A D A F

>>61390722
Oh shit nigga. Link to more info? When's this releasing?

>>61391460
It's on Fiio's Facebook. No idea when it's actually dropping though.

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>>61391297
>lol

>>61391477
Could you post a link. I can't seem to find it and facebook's shit site blocks half the page with a sign-up button if you don't have an account.

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>>61391477
>facebook

>>61391542
It's spam filtered. Just Google "Facebook fiio".

>>61391590
Can't find shit on the USA, Singapore and India pages. Whatever I'll wait for more info to drop. Hoping to get these to drive my dt770s.

I bought the dt770s for casual music listening, movie watching and for some playing a few games

How did I do

>>61391661
Same here anon. I feel the highs can be a bit harsh sometimes but overall pretty satisfied. Which one did you get? Do you have an amp yet?

>>61391661
>How did I do
Poorly.

>>61391698
80 ohm, no amp yet, kinda short on money right now and I'm not sure if it's really necessary for the extra cost

>>61391661
DT770 have v-shaped frequency response, which makes them poor all-rounders. Neutral frequency response would have been a better choice.
They're closed, so if you use them in a room where you are alone, an open set would have been better too.
Still, you did better than the average. At least these headphones are somewhat competitive for their price, that is, they aren't absolute garbage.
If they're your first non-crap headphones, you'll probably be enjoying them a lot by now.

>>61391717
Yeah I got the 80 ohm ones too. It probably depends on your mobo if they'll drive them well. They're okay on my PC right now but I feel they could sound a lot louder and better with a good amp. It comes down to personal listening volume I guess. If you're planning to use your phone you really are gonna need an amp though, they just don't get loud enough.

>>61391482
god these smug anime girls really get me going

Is there a way to connect a tube integrated amp (power amp with volume control) into a headphone amp?
Or any easier way to switch to listening to headphones with a tube power speaker amp?

I hear the dac on the Samsung s8 is pretty good, could I just get a decent pair of IEMs and go?

>>61378744
Best cheap/chinese IEM? are KZ still good? I don't know what's what anymore.

>>61391661
>How did I do
They're shit.

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Yo /g/ ear cancer guy here from a few weeks back. I had bought an M50x and Fiio Q1 a while back but have issues with the headphones, so looking for some open backed cans now.

I was very heavily considering some ASKG K7xx though im not sure. Primary use would be for gaming and music from a desktop at home, occasionally used for movies also at home. Ideally something with larger pads and a softer clamp force.

Should I be looking at 598s, the philips 5000s, some akg? I really like the look of AKG headphones and the ATH-AD700X and similar, are they worth getting?

Budget is ~$100-200, though I don't mind waiting for a good deal.

Pic related, what im dealing with and why the M50x are a pain in the ear

>>61392128
I would suggest the hd600 but you wanrt a soft clamp force. You can easily bend thgem to make them as loose as you want, but whatever. AKG 712's are fantastic for music and they have strong bass for an open headphone. Gamiong should be great on them. The pads are god tier too.

>>61392128
Phillips SHP9500 have absolutely enormous earpads with a lot of room in them.

>>61389211
Have you experienced crack in the headband?

youtube.com/watch?v=aIlcaOP4R84

>>61392527
Am I supposed to understand what they're saying?

>>61392527
I always wondered how treble dildos are manufacturers.

>>61392128
I suggest HD600 for their excellent sound.
Regarding tightness, they're loose AF after using them for a few days. They can be loosened faster by carefully bending the metal band. They'll probably not even touch your ears, but just your head, as the cups are big enough for that.

>>61379473
They are good headphones if you can find them for ~100 or so. I own a pair. Sounds like the music is playing in my head.

Did anyone compare shure foam tips with comply ones? Which one did you like best?

>>61379473
ATH-M40x are better.

>>61392383
Other anon, it doesn't happen in the headband. It cracks in the hinges.
>>61390558
>5.1 or more
Sucks ass and usually makes everything sound worse.
>on ear
>$200
HD 25
>>61391104
KZ ZS5 with new tips. The stock tips are shit and is the same shit cable that comes with the I think the ZST or ZS3.
>>61392052
KZ ZS5 with new tips
Tennmak Pro
Soundmagic E10/30/50

>>61392052
https://audiobudget.com/
KZ ZS5 is wel lreviewed, the link gives several that are decent though and will let you browse some others that are good

>>61388963
I must admit, this is a lot of dedication to your Sennshilling.

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Idol Trash suggests this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJKaDWz_Cds

>>61392527
teh woman are very attract :)

What's the cheapest DAC/Amp combo that can bring my K7XX's/future 6XX's to their potential?

>>61382025
Skip the deteriorating overpriced earpad memephones.

>>61394036
>DAC/amp combo
you just need a combined DAC/amp for something like the 6XX, 7XX.

heck I just plug in my K702 into my PC directly and I don't have issues with volume. I don't even hear much of a difference DAC-side between my PC and the E10K (which are neutral apparently).

don't fall for the snake oil

>>61394036
>cheapest
Not sure, but a Schiit Fulla 2 is cheap and provides excellent value/cost.

>>61394036
External power? DAC X6
USB Power? Fulla 2

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HD 800 diaphragm donut is not tractrix?

an x6 will power hd600's right

>>61394538
>>61394036
DAC X6's TPA6120 means it probably has a 10 ohm output impedance, which is not a good match for the K7XX's 62 ohm impedance.

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>>61394604

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>>61394687
For excellent soundstage/imaging? Hmm...

>>61394705
beyertrebledildogenerator.gif

>>61394716
Man, if only the mids were flat, then it'd be a no bass, recessed treble simulator ;)

>>61394036
Fulla 2 is more then you need and it also serves as a portable amp, should you need it. Depending on where you live the e10k could be a cheaper dac option.

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Post underrated headphones.

These bad boys (clones of the 7506)

the ear pads are pretty horrendous on them though. NVX pads make them sound better in my opinion. Definitely more comfortable.

>>61395044
How'd the sound change compared to stock?

i am tempted. The mahogany one that seems to be on eternal drop looks ugly, but the ebony one is almost pretty enough for me to get past the whole attached cable thing.

How comfortable are gel ear seals?

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Has anyone here met this guy in person?

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>>61395362
pic related

>>61395457
>jewed from head fi
What a dude.

>>61383171
>EDM
I worry about the future of music...

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modded my schiit magni 2u.

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>>61396068
Cool.
(behold my pun making skills)

>>61396068
>>61396151
To add to that... I will likely do it too, but not until the warranty is over.

>muh soundstage and separation

>>61396301
Who are you quoting?

I have an LCD-X paired with an smsl m7 at the moment, I have heard that the best thing that can go with it is an NFB-11, but I'm still hesitant to buy from those shady guys, any tips?

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http://dir.xiph.org/by_format/Opus

>>61396414
Look into schiit.
Maybe someday nfb-11 will be reputable.
>>61396419
Opus is awesome.

>>61396436
Which Schiit? Also if I were to only buy an amp since the DAC I have is very decent, which amplifier would be best?

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>>61396068
>>61396151
>>61396227
>schiit mods
I added a ferrite core right behind the power plug. Wrapped the cable two times thru the core.

>>61396488
Magni2

>>61396488
A magni2u is about the best thing you can get from them which is still sensible.
Jotunheim if you want to venture into the irrational, with balanced meme.
>>61396498
If it makes you feel better.

>>61396488
ragnarok don't be a small baller

>>61392128
What happened to your ears?

>>61396503
Don't think that would be enough to power the LCD X properly, people usually compare the NFB 11 with the Jotunheim.

>>61396521
Take it as a warning against beyerdynamic, which is what he used to use.

>>61396555
Stop shitposting, famalam. He used M50Xs. Thank god they weren't Sennheisers or he would have had more than ear cancer ;)

>>61396575
Nobody's ever been fired for buying Sennheiser.

>>61396515
How is the Asgard 2? And are you sure a small magni2u would be able to deliver enough power for the whole frequencies?

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>>61396414
What about audiogd is shady?
>>61396436
Shit already is, blows the jotunheim out of the water

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>>61396632
specs are amazing

>>61396632
>Asgard 2
Class A oven. Way more power than you'll ever need and so incredibly stupid. Measures worse than magni2/u.
>Will magni2 be enough?
https://www.audiobot9000.com/match/audeze/lcd-x/with/schiit/magni-2
128dB. Absolutely overkill. And that's not even the Uber version.

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>>61396419
https://chiru.no:8080/stream.opus

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>>61396726
Idol trash just sent a request.
Enjoy.

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>>61378744
tfw when you bought this baby for literally 40 burger dollars

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>>61396638
Found a better picture of the NFB
>>61396632
I ran HD800s with a magni/modi v1 for a couple of months, you'll be fine with the uber
But really chi-fi is way to go

>>61396638
Their marketing is shady, I contacted them and they sent me a bill of $379 for the nfb 11, still don't know if I should make the move or not.

>>61396714
On paper that might be true, but the LCD X is inefficient in reality, my smsl m7 for example can't get the low end right with it, makes it sound like a sharp high frequency blood bath at high volumes where in reality it should be a warm set.

>>61396841
Proof? What's the catch?

>>61396841
>On paper
https://nwavguy.blogspot.ie/2011/09/more-power.html
115dB is overkill, 128dB is insane.

>>61396779
>chi-fi
Got a hifime 9018 optical dac from hong kong few weeks ago. I'm over the fucking moon with the quality. My dac search is over.

>>61396871
Subtract 10db for EQ and 20db for quieter songs.

>>61396870
I'm scared of bad QC, would be pricey to return for a repair.

>>61392383

Not the same anon, but I have and I took really good care of them. Theyre best for planes and noise cancellation but the build quality is shit. Mine lasted 3 months.

>>61396906
This isn't about gain, but about powering the drivers for a certain SPL.
128dB will leave you deaf instantly. Hopefully the headphones are well designed enough that they won't actually go anywhere near 128dB.

>>61396068
Is the case noticeably cooler?

>>61396940
Who cares about the case. It's about moving heat away from the actual electronics.
The case won't melt that easily, it's metallic.

>>61396930
You won't even come close to 128dB if you have EQ and good recordings.

>>61396841
I paid $356 total, with a 5% new year/christmas discount. Look about a week and a half to get to me despite it being the holiday season.
Grace was the one replying to my emails, might be different now.
>>61396898
Chi-fi warranties might be shit, but the price to quality is unmatched. The 1more quad drivers I picked up blow out everything in it's price bracket out of the water.

>>61396940
Me thinks. Been on two hours already. Mildly warm to the touch.

>>61396981
It bothers my autism if the case gets hot

>>61397039
That's nice, where did you get the heatsinks?

>>61397042
The hotter the case, the more the heat it's getting rid of.
I'd take a hot case and cold electronics over cooked electronics and a cold case.

>>61396871
115 dB headphone+amp capability is a nice bare minimum to make sure you have enough headroom for quiet recordings.

>>61397052
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007XACV8O/

20 for $5.75 - I happened to have four left over from another project.

>>61397089
115dB means actual 115dB loud.
Again, this is not about gain, but max SPL.

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>>61397089
>>61397113
This kind of dB. Actual sound pressure level as emitted by the headphone drivers.

>>61397113
>>61397145
You're a fucking retard. Please stop giving advice.

>>61397380
This is your captain speaking. She packed my bags, pre flight. 9 AM.

How are the MDR100ABN?

They're going half off on massdrop right now, surely I couldnt find a pair of wired headphones with better sound quality at the same price?

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>>61398180
>wireless headphones

>>61398180
Bad. Get the 1000x instead. Those at least sound acceptable until they crack.

>>61396419
>>61396726
The URL in the m3u and xspf files is http but when I run it in Chromium even without HTTPS Everywhere it becomes https. Could that be why when I tried to get that stream to work with mpv and foobar2000 they failed on me?

>>61378744
WHERE CAN I GET THE JAP VOICE WITH THE ENGLISH SUBTLES. ENGLISH DUBS WEIRD ME OUT.

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>got dt770 6 months ago
>mfw miss my previous niggerbass ath-m50s
these are still really nice, but everything just lacks impact

>>61398530
>but everything just lacks impact
And mids.

>>61398550
mids sound fine to me. Everything is pretty well balanced, but I think it's just all too neutral for me

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>>61398566
>DT770
>neutral

>>61398632
well, compared to the m50...

>>61398566
Have you tried sennheisers? They might be more what you're looking for. Literally no bass and no treble. Highly recommended.

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What is the second best headphone ever made behind the HD600?

>>61398658
HD580

>>61398658
>open back

>>61398666
Yes, and? Open back headphones generally sound better than closed headphones. You must be new here.

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What's the second most snappy headphone ever made behind the HD600?

>>61398696
I detect perturbation.

*snap*

Oh shit anon, was that you? I warned you man, here let me call the ambulance for those cuts.

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>>61398566
>DT770
>neutral

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Buy some speakers

>>61398773
Wrong thread.

Just recieved my Akai Project 50x. It's a pretty good buy at the amazon price.

Just waiting on my Lyx Pro Has 30 ear pads so I can remove the mediocre ear pads it comes with.

They're all clones of the ISK MDH9000 just the Project 50x has worse ear pads.

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>>61398530
Fucking what?

>>61398696
HD 600 is already second. HD 580's first since it cane first.

>>61398912
The Beyer treble rape is clearly masking the bass for him.

>>61380049
>>61380236

Be careful of turning it on and off rapidly. I don't know how the relay works, but it needs to start from cold to actually delay long enough to protect from the DC offset. If you turn it off then turn it back on, you can see the headphone's driver membrane pop out about half a centimeter for a split second. Tested with a K612. Turning off the amp also makes it jump slightly (visible but not as much). Turning on from cold start doesn't produce visible excursion.

Debatable if this will cause damage but it looks freaky. Now I just unplug before shutoff and plug after relay kicks in.

>>61398950
If treble is lower, then midrange and bass will be perceived higher.

>>61398958
Right. That's why he perceives the M50 as bassier. The Beyer treble rape is masking the bass.

>>61398969
I agree, you agree, I agree, you agree.
We could go on like this forever.

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Ouch! They say the prettiest flowers have the sharpest thorns... but well, the HD600 aren't exactly pretty, are they.

>>61392946
why

>>61398984
Nice tattoo.

>>61398995
More neutral, meaning more accurate, that is, better.

>>61398995
More accurate.

>>61378744
Miporin~!

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HD600s sound really nice with electric guitar amps and effects and stuff

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>>61392128
Serious question, is your pinna deformity affecting your HRTF and hearing in day to day life? Have you considered IEMs to bypass the pinna or would that just sound weird after getting used to hearing differently normally?

Also I have AD700, the pads/cups are kind of shallow (or old and flattened) and the driver housing will touch my ears and be annoying. K701 series have angled pads with a lot of space, might be good.

>>61379473
If you care about comfort, stay very far away from the M series Audio Technicas.

>>61399229
If not clear enough, M is for do-M.

>>61379618

I 100% got my mild tinnitus from MDR-V6's

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>>61399303
>mdr-v6
There's your problem
>mdr-cd900st
Chihaya has good taste. No treble rape with that one.

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>>61399362
Yikes...

Do the SHP9500 need an amp or can I just use them with my computer's normal output thing?

>>61399944
SHP9500 do not need an amp so yes you can

What DAC do you guys use?

I got the Dragonfly Black and I find it way too loud. My only fix is using volstep so that I can raise/lower the volume in micro steps.

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>>61392175
>>61392710
HD600 is a bit out of my price range.
>>61392317
I've heard good things about these, though theyre on the lower end up my budget. Is it worth going with something higher end without trying them on? I did that with the m50x and was disappointed.

>>61399100
I haven't noticed a difference in function, I can still tell audio direction fine and everything. The ends are hypersensitive though and will be for several months, so getting something with deeper pads, or able to swap pads for some better ones, is a must.
I have a pair of earbuds and some KZ ATEs in the mail, though I'm not a big fan of IEMs, or at least havent been in the past.

Do you know if the K701 has the same pads as the K712 or K7xx? I've been enamored with the AKG design for a while now.

>>61399979
I use a Fiio Q1, its a portable DAC/AMP combo but most of it is spent at my desktop, pic related. Theyre also releasing a newer version called the Q1Mark II here soon.

>>61399970
>>61399979
Does a DAC make a huge difference compared to onboard audio?

>>61400117
>outside budget
Maybe look into HD579, HD598se/sr or HD558.

Another proof that beyerdynamic is total garbage
https://youtu.be/G92XHH27xjU?t=85

>>61399979
>I find it way too loud
Turn down your volume
>>61400117
>Q1 MK2
72mW @ 32 Standard
200mW @ 32 Balanced
1800 mAh battery
Not bad for $100

>>61400135
Nope. Not at all. Especially since many mobo manufacturers are are using quality capacitors and electronically isolating the audio circuitry from the rest of the mobo to get better fidelity.

The only reason to have a DAC/AMP is:

1) Your high-end headphones are meant to be used through a 1/4 inch plug, rather than going through a 1/4 inch to 3.5mm adapter.

2) Your headphones have a high impedance and using the Windows sound adjustment is cludgy for adjusting audio volume levels.

3) You need specialty output plugs not offered by your motherboard, such as RCA audio out to a Class-T amp for bookshelf speakers. (You can use a 3.5mm to RCA left+right audio cable/adapter, but would rather have the direct port.)

4) You want to have an analog adjustment knob for controlling volume output in real time, rather than trying to digitally adjust volume through the Windows sound panel, etc.

5) You want a readily available headphone jack for switching between headphones, as you already have 3 or so headphones that you may like to swap between for differing genres or for particularly accurate audio positioning for a game like CS:GO or something.

The DAC-part only? Marginal upgrade that most users wouldn't be able to tell apart in a clinical double blind trial.

>>61400373
>4) You want to have an analog adjustment knob for controlling volume output in real time, rather than trying to digitally adjust volume through the Windows sound panel, etc.

I remember reading something about how controling volume through the OS introduces artifacts through compression, whereas even just an amp and OS volume at 100 will sound pure.

>>61400446
Theoretically, yes. The same happens with bad digital to analog conversions from lower fidelity chips.

But the question is do you have the golden ears to discretely tell the difference in a double-blind trial?

The analog knob is there more for convenience than it is because it avoids any faulty digital volume adjustments.

>>61400135

I just spent the time difference between these two posts trying out 3 IEMS and 2 headphones between my Dragonfly and onboard sound.

I couldn't tell the difference.

Sometimes I suspected that the onboard dac had more separation, while the dragonfly could handle more instruments hitting at the same time without distorting, but it's inconclusive. I probably need to rig up a Y splitter to instantly switch between the audio feeds to really tell if it's true or if I'm just imagining it.

>>61400117
I see. I actually only had the K702, but I assume they all have the same form factor. K612, K240 whatever have not angled pads and touch ears for me.

>>61400373
>The only reason
>Makes a non-exhaustive list with 5 reasons
Sigh.
>some more reasons (non-exhaustive)
6. Impedance mismatch. The output impedance of the board is too high and the headphone impedance is too low and not flat across frequency spectrum, resulting on faulty FR. High output impedances are very common due to repurposable ports leading to compromise between impedance desired for line outputs (high) and headphones (low)
7. maximum volume is insufficient and additional gain an external amp can provide is desired.
8. The motherboard isn't blessed with good sound to begin with.

is the HD 558 with foam mod a good all rounder if I want something for gaming, music, and the occasional movie?
$100 is my limit

>>61396861
>>61399064
>>61399475

Why /hpg/ ?

>>61400446
Where did you read this bullshit?

>>61400812
It's uncomfortable and supposedly doesn't sound good for the price

>>61400809
I think the SHP9500 surpassed the HD558.

anyone has experience with the shure in ears?

>I now download most of my music as 24 bit FLACs

>>61400860
>it's uncomfortable

I agree... The thing gets really hot and tight and after some time the revestment starts coming off, leaving residue around my ear. Thinking of buying replacement earpads for it

I like the sound though, and the removable cable is the best feature on the thing

Looking for buyers advice:
Love my DT880 and UE 900s
Looking for something more high end ~1000€ (Over-Ear)

Was thinking about getting a Beyer T1 gen2. I love their build quality and that you can swap out damaged parts yourself easily.
I currently use an Asus Essence STX II, I might get a seperate DAC/AMP in the future though.

Is the T1 my best bet, or should I consider something else? How about the other Tesla Beyers, how do they compare to the 880?

Fuck I really want the 598s, they got good reviews, decent price and look great but are open back. Are there any closed back headphones of similar quality?

>>61401783
For that price you're getting diminishing returns. I know there has been a lot of talk comparing the T1 1st and 2nd gen with the T90 which offers a similar sound, currently for $300. The drawbacks are mostly in the build rather than in the sound - you don't get a detachable cable, it's not as premium.
The updated Beyers are supposed to be a bit more laidback, though still with a pronounced treble. There's the 1990 and the Amiron, though they only started making them last year I think, so they hold their $600 price tag for now. Never heard the new ones, but I own the T90. I'm almost mad I didn't wait a year to get the Jubilee edition.

>>61401447
Good

>>61400373
>tfw already fell for DAC/amp meme
I thought it was weird that I didn't hear a difference between my mobo and the DAC/amp.

never mind that I didn't even need to turn up the volume knob (at lo gain) more than a quarter way for good listening volumes.

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How good/bad is this thing ?
I'll probably switch to an apple phone soon and I have ATH M50X.
Will it be better than my One M7 integrated DAC ?

>>61402504
it's too short

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r8 amp

>>61402658
nice knob you got there, m8.

>>61402751
t..thanks

I'm thinking about buying a Vali 2 + Modi 2 combo for my K702s.
Will i regret this later when i upgrade my headphones?

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>>61402900
Better to upgrade your headphones first. Go all out and get endgame, then slowly work on the rest of your system.

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Would HD 598's be better for post rock over M50's?

>>61403005
That's a lot more expensive than his dac + amp combo

>>61401964
Sorry for taking a while, was out to eat.
I don't care much about detachable cables, I'm able to solder and Beyer usually changes cables for free, even out of guarantee, if you ask nicely. I'm German, so sending it in is no problem anyway.
I like the pronounced Treble of Beyerdynamic, so that's not an issue for me.

It's a shame it's nearly impossible to try out these high end headphones where I live.

What I mainly hope for from an update is a better soundstage and a better, crisper response.

>>61403005
>HD800
>endgame
there's still Orpheus

>>61403399
Mate if you have a $1k to buy the headphones you also have the spare change required to catch a bus to the nearest larger city. And when you're about to spend this kind of money, trying the headphones, not only for sound but also comfort, is basically a must.

>>61403490
I might as well just buy them and send them back. It's not nice, but the closest city I might get lucky is about 100km away and I can't be assed to drive there, if I can just abuse amazon.
I like the fit of my DT880, so I guess the T1/Amiron should work too, the headbands/cushions aren't that different.
Is something like a DT1880 planned?

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>>61379430
Cheap as shit, but still bretty gud, had these IEMs for over 10 years and still working perfectly.

what's /hpg/s opinion on the Shure Srh1840?

>>61403554
They announced the DT1770 and Amiron in 2015 and DT1990 in 2016. So, maybe there will be a reveal of the 1880 this year, but no official news yet. Considering beyer already have 3 headphones in the 600€ range now, I wouldn't hold my breath.
I tried to look for some measurements of the 1990 and Amiron but since they're relatively new there isn't much (or anything) out there. The DT1990 seem to be the better choice if you want the beyer sound signature, though.

>>61404387
I made the same experience, but I also read that the 1990 isn't much of an improvement over a DT880.
Maybe it's time to try out some other manufacturers, if there's not much improvement after the DT880...
Are there any manufacturers that have equally well built headphones like BD? I'd rather use some generic storebrand than test the shitfest that is Sennheisers build quality.

are the Philips X2/00 good for 170 euros?
do I need an amp to use them?

>>61404496
Well, they are supposed to be a spiritual successor, not be a tier above them. New design, better build and hopefully a better but still similar sound. This is pretty much where trying them all out pays off. The only real step up is the T1, and I don't think it's worth the extra money.
At the price range you're at, you're usually hardly ever paying for huge differences in sound. All that cash doesn't go into sound quality, it's mostly comfort, better materials, accessories, service. Of course the sound improves as well, but the improvement from $50 to $250 is much bigger than from $250 to $500, if you get what I mean.

>>61404648
I know what you mean. Coming from IEMs, it's hard to estimate how much less the sound improves though. Imo. The difference between my SE215 and TF10 is just as large as that of a 20€ headphone to the SE215. Same goes for the difference between the TF10 and UE900s.

It's hard to imagine that the difference between the DT880 and T1 isn't as big as the difference between the TF10 and UE900s (not speaking about frequency response ofc.), but I don't mean to call you a liar.

Possibly it's just time for me to try out some other products. The Shure 1840 seems nice... I'm still kind of sad that I didn't pull the trigger on a Denon AH D2000 back in the days. I love the way they look...

>>61404804 new thread

>>61404788
Oh no, I'm sure there is enough of a difference. But not enough to justify the $1k pricetag. Back when I was eyeing the T90 I read a ton of opinions on that, although most of them I'd bet was T90 owners trying to convince themselves they got the better buy, as one could expect on head-fi. But I tried them on later, along with the HD600 and 650, and yeah, they feel better in hand, the sound was better in some aspects, but definitely not to pay double than what I got the T90 for.
Maybe even try looking into some planars. The Audeze LCD-2 should fit your budget, but you'll also need an amp, but frankly the $1k range is quite out of my reach, so you'll have to ask someone else or somewhere else.

>>61404997
I'll answer in the new thread