/pcbg/ - PC Building General:

Choosing parts for my 10 year old cousin
Should I get her LG 24MP48HQ-P or Asus - VP228TE as monitor.

Basically 1080p 1ms TN 75hz 21.5 inch or 1080p 5ms IPS 60hz 24 inch for 30 euros more?

Anything I should know about these particular monitors like if they may have problems or flickering or dead pixels or smth? Just want a solid cheap 1080p monitor

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7yw4WX amd
Or
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QLDgWX intel?

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pls no master race reddit shit here

Hey gang built my 1st PC a couple months ago, I have a MSI Tomahawk b350, GTX 1060, and a ryzen 5 1600. Things were going good but recently it hasn't been recognizing the monitor. The screen just remains black as the CPU debug light pops on on the mobo. Any ideas on whats going on? Thanks buds

>>61376222
>X brand or Y brand
Doesn't matter
>7700k or r7 1700
Depends on usage

How much of a difference does RAM speed even make anyways? I want to buy an entry level workstation rig but I'm tight on cash right now so I'm thinking about just buying 8 GB RAM now and adding 8 more later, but most of the RAM I find that's 3000 or 3200 mHz only comes in 2x8 configuration and not 1x8. The highest I can find in 1x8 is 2666 mHz.

Going to get either Ryzen 3 or 5 and use the PC for
Lightroom, Premiere, some light Photoshopping, Ableton Live and some gaming but I don't really give a shit about the gaming performance as long as it's good enough.

Any problems with not using an I/O shield?

I'm getting a GA-Z97-HD3 and a few other things for free, but it don't come with that. I could order one, but it takes a whole month to arrive.

how bad are built in monitor speakers

>>61376317
Game development, especially vr, and maxed settings gaming with no dips or stuttering 144fps at 1080p and 60fps at 1440p

>>61376357
how many slots? could go 2x4

>>61376414
Game developement usually implies compilation and multi-tasking (involving multiple CPU heavy software running at the same time) so the cores are extremely beneficial there
VR games usually are very well optimized because they pretty much have to be: shit frametimes or framerates and the player will throw up in no time. So those usually don't have that much problem spreading on 8+ threads
And the extra cores do help a lot when it come to frametimes / fps drops as having the game's load spread on 16 threads (though it'll generally be at 10 or 12) allows the CPU to never reach 100% in one thread which would cause stutter and sudden FPS drop
Problem though, a 7700k will be noticeably closer to 144hz than an R7 1700. It doesn't mean it will be at 144hz constantly though, as even the best gaming CPU has a hard time achieving that framerates on AAAs, but it does reach it better than an R7 1700.

>>61375995
anyone know which 1080ti brand produces the least noise at full load?

I was thinking of going with the strix 1632 MHz

>>61376362
Not really. The fans won’t be pulling in right next to it so it won’t make a huge difference dust-wise. Might need to be a little more careful plugging things in I guess. If you do order one you’ll have to pull the mobo out to install it.

>>61376500
Fuck, I'm not sure I can spend 2k+ on a pc that can't even run games at 144fps at 1080p

>>61376414
If you need a good PC why aren't you prioritizing the CPU? Get the 1800x there is no excuse, you can cheap out something else but get the better cpu.

>>61376364
Pretty bad, for most models. I still prefer monitors that have them because you can use it as an audio switch when using multiple computers at one display, but I wouldn’t use them long term.

You can get a pair of Micca MB42X speakers and a reasonableish amp for ~$150 or less, and that will be exceptional for 90% of use cases

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Thanks to distributors bundling CPUs with GPUs I just got myself a 1700x for $260 CA. What's a decent cooler under $100?

>>61375995
Gaize we are da master race xdxd

...r-right reddit?

>>61376576
The way it was explained to me is the 1800x is the same thing after i oc

>>61376573
Because why the fuck are you spending 300 usd on a case??

m.2 disk
meme gayming motherboard
liquid cooling
muh ram
super efficent PSU

This doesn't make your PC faster, I bet you're wasting 700 usd here you could make a SLI 1080 ti system with less retarded picks

>>61376650
Well that's why I'm here, to get help picking less retarded things

>>61376585
nah im talking about a budget build like 550$
should I just get a monitor with built in speakers or like 20$ separate ones

>>61376591
Noctua NH-D15

>>61376591
What the fuck is this. I paid $343 CAD for a fucking 1600

>>61376693
I got really lucky. I was originally gonna buy a 1600 as well and saw the price drop on Newegg so I checked ebay and saw a few 1700's going for $330ish and then this morning saw the 1700x for that price and snagged it up.

>>61376668
for case just get a define r5 or phantex evolv or something
psu u dont really need platinum
idk if u need 32 gb ram but pretty sure u can find cheaper 3200 ram
the motherboard I mean why just why get some 100$ one or something
liquid cooling yeah good luck sleeping at night with that just get air cooling
get normal ssd no need for the newer ones

>>61375995
Is this good ?

ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 Strix 6GB
AMD Ryzen 5 1600X
Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000 C15 2x8GB
EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G2
Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2
Seagate Barracuda 2TB
COOLERMASTER MasterCase MasterBox 5
Asus PRIME X370-PRO

Guys I wan to upgrade my monitors. I currently have two HP 25es's and they were dirt cheap but I want more. Recommendations for a dual monitor setup with a thousand dollar budget.,

>>61376737
>seagate

Also loading it into PC part builder and sharing the link makes it easier to eye things and follow links

>>61376737
looks nice except that I don't udnerstand why you chose such an expensive motherboard.

Is this thread only for "gamer pcs"? Because I want to built a small homelab server that hosts several VMs. Are we at a point right now where I could actually eyeball AMD cpus? Is ryzen compatible with esxi?

How do I find computer parts on sale? Leaf btw

>>61376954
new or used?

>>61377010
new

>>61375995
Is the step by step guide for assembly in wiki on the OP good? Am I safe to follow this for a first time build?

>>61377047
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/
They'll tell you if there's incompatibilities in your build, for the most part, and give you the cheapest current price for anything in your build and where to get it.

how good is this build? My budget is around $600

>AMD Ryzen 5 1400 3.6ghz
>Sapphire Pulse RX 560 4gb
>MSI B350M gaming pro motherboard
>Fury X 8gb DDR4 2666 mhz RAM
>1TB 3.5 7200 RPM SATA 3
>Evga BV 500 PSU

It should be alright for me to cheap on the case right? as long as I use ATX casing

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>>61377162
I would grab a 2GB RX 560. It isn't powerful enough to make use of the extra vram. You can put the money saved into a more expensive case which will make building easier.
On a budget, I recommend the Corsair Carbide series. Pic related is just one of the cases in that series. You can commonly find them from $39 to $70.

>>61377162
The ram should be a 2x4 kit btw

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>no informations about shipping
what the hell.

how bad are referb hard drives, the referb hitachi's seem like a cheapish way to get decent large drives

>>61375995
>GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both
What does this mean? Is the rx 560 trash?

>>61377300

You never know how badly its been thrashed and most people don't like to risk data loss.

>>61376728
>>61376576
Hows this instead

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rL4bgL

>>61377334
yes

>>61375995
i7-6850Ks are going for $299.99 at Micro Center with a $40 discount on X99 boards (that are already on sale)

>>61377359
its your money waste them however you want

>>61377334
Why?

>>61377391
Is the point of this thread to snidely snipe at people or build pcs come on senpai

>>61377085
no it's shit

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Thinking about building a Mini ITX Ryzen machine. Love the look and size of the Node 202.

Anyone else do a Mini ITX? Pros/cons?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qJ3YGf
Should I replace the 1060, or just wait until they're back in stock/lower price

Are the "Mini" versions of GeForce GTX series any different than normal ones? they seem to cost almost the same, except they look smaller.

>>61377359
That's quite a computer.
I'd stick with the R7 1700 for CPU. It can be overclocked to the same point an 1800X can.
Your case... well, it's your money. Suffice to say there are lots of reasonable cases to be found for under $120. Fuck, there are reasonable cases for under $60.
You probably don't need more than 650W in the PSU unless you are planning to go multi-GPU in the future.

>>61377359
I'm confused, what exactly is your budget? You're posting builds from 1k to 3k range.

I made this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xw7LTH

I thought your budget was 2,7k, well this one has 2 GTX 1080 ti's and it can run 4k 60 fps but it guarantee 1440k at fps too. If it's too much you could delete one card, or get 2 GTX 1080 SLI which is better than one GTX 1080 ti.

>>61377429
get a cheaper motherboard, a less efficient psu, and a cheaper case. also a 1080ti is way fucking overkill for 1080p gayming at any refresh rate. get a 1080 instead.

>>61377439
>bitching about the 1060
That's NOT the problem with your build. The problem is the CPU and motherboard. Grab an AMD Ryzen 5 processor and a B350 motherboard. You get more for your money.
>Muh FPS
that argument can only be used with the i7 7700k because it's the only one the Ryzen chips can't outperform in gaming and even then the difference is small.

>>61377162
why not spring for a 1600 now?

>>61377438
Pros:
It's small
Cons:
Smaller selection of parts
limited expandabilty
Thermals are not ideal, can be loud if using high power components

>>61377497
Ok I forgot the storage, I just made it quick so you can improve things, I even picked overpriced shit to match 2,7k...

>>61377359
Give the credit card back, Jamal

>>61377488
Im planning to sli eventually. I don't know anything about cases so I've just been picking cases that look cool and have enough room for sli tis and more hdds in the future. Any suggestions would be helpful.

>>61377497
My budget is floating around 2-3k but obviously id like to maximize performance reasonably if i can. Ill check out your build.

>>61377508
Im going to sli in the near future and will be upgrading to a 4k display before the end of the year.

>>61377533
because of his budget dipshit. Even I'm not going to tell someone on a $600 budget to get a 1600. The money would be better spent elsewhere. The 1400 is a fine Ryzen entry. It's got a solid upgrade path and a long life.

>>61377438
Why would you do a half-PCIe ITX Ryzen?
Just wait for Raven Ridge, because you're fucked for GPU options

I got a mobo with only one x16 PCIe slot.
Are there any adapters I can use to enable SLI? like some kind of splitter/extender.

Reminder for anyone buying AMD right now and worried about GPU prices that there are several 8GB 580+1700x deals on newegg right now for $600-$630. They are also currently in stock.

>>61375995
I want to build a librebootable desktop. Which motherboard should I use? I want something 64 bit perferably quad core.


Gigabyte GA-G41M-ES2L motherboard
Intel D510MO motherboard
ASUS KCMA-D8 motherboard
Intel D945GCLF
ASUS KFSN4-DRE motherboard
ASUS KGPE-D16 motherboard

>>61377162
Don't take the EVGA BV series. It's a trash-tier PSU.
There are PSUs that are cheap and substantially better. If your budget is tight look at the Seasonic S12II series. They can be had for around 30-40 and are rock solid.

>>61377566
>Im planning to sli eventually.
I'm going to give you some very painful, and confusing information.
Multi-GPU setups are a joke. They will oftentimes not work properly, and when they do, they scale awfully. Neither NVIDIA, AMD/ATI or the devs coding the games ever worked out a way to make it reasonable from the very beginning, and they are increasingly falling out of favor.
I'd strongly advise against doing SLI. It is, frankly, a sham. Put the money in an S&P 500 instead, and you'll be just as happy.

>>61377566
listen to this >>61377647 anon, he knows what he's talking about

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>PC
>NOT USING MAC

PERSONAL COMPUTERS(windows) BTFO
hur hur :^)

>>61377647
I see. So without sli plans, just a singular 1080ti, i can jump down to a 650 gold psu and a smaller case probably? Ill fiddle around with my build and repost.

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If a mobo has two x1 PCIe connectors, can I use a couple of x16 to x1 adapters (pic related) to use two GPUs in a SLI setup? will it work?

>>61377696
>a smaller case probably?
Yes. Here's another tidbit of broad computing trends: gigantic cases are going out of style. As components have become more efficient, we need to spend less effort on case cooling setups. Moreover, huge stacked drive cages are disappearing, as HDD sizes increase and data moves increasingly into the cloud.
Full Towers can be nice and roomy to work in, but there's scarce function in buying one anymore.

PSU efficiency always matters. If you want a Platinum or Titanium PSU, go for it. Likely a higher quality unit (but not always).

>>61377760
no

>>61377647
True, forgot to mention there are problems with SLI this is common knowledge, however it's the only way to hit 4k60fps currently when it works which it should in most modern PC native games, ports and "old" games are generally a problem.

>>61377760
I doubt even one card would work.
Why do you think its x16? Just for a lark? Can't have anything to do with the massive bandwidth requirements of graphics cards or anything...

>>61376050
>monitor
He's young just buy anything you feel is suitable. (Cheap) a 21 inch or less is more than enough
All part now days at reliable. Get the former. No need to waste money. It would take you less than an hour to research for yourself. If you wish. But go for the cheaper. Lg and Asus are quality.

Two weeks until the supposed Ryzen 3 release and we don't even have a recommended price?

>>61377878
less than the R5s

>>61377085
Building a computer is literally just putting together a more expensive and fragile Lego set. As long as you're not doing something like scooting your ass on a shag carpet in nylon shorts, you'll be fine and you can just play it by ear.

>>61377878
That's a funny way to type Reveal

Miner holocaust when

>>61377085
go to youtube and type "how to build a PC"

>>61377894
Not him, but I actually did just that wearing flip flops and occasionally grounding myself.

My main problems were my PSU's 20+4 connector was a bitch to plug in (twice because bench test), felt like I would snap the board in half, and installing the Wraith Spire with its stupid screws and even more pressure.

My mobo somehow took it all like a champ.

>>61377771
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NDhHgL am I getting closer to something reasonable that will still do everything i want without compromises in performance?

>>61377942
Why are you insistent on an M.2? Why not use a regular SSD?

First time PCfat.
Is it generally better to buy a prebuilt desktop or build one?
I want to build one but I'm afraid to fuck up

>>61377933
Plugging in the power cable is honestly the most nerve wracking part of a build to me. Installing a cpu and cooler is easy shit, but I'm always afraid of snapping a board when plugging in or taking out a 20 pin cable.

>>61377964
The comparisons in read and write speed made them look twice as fast? But I've never owned an ssd before so I'm in new territory here

>>61377984
If you used to build Bionicles, you can build a computer.

>>61377942
You could probably get away with 16GB of RAM, or a B350 MB. Were I you, I'd use the savings to get the Samsung 960 PRO. At least there, you'd see some performance benefit. What is X370 really giving you? More USB ports?
I would take a 1700 over the 1700X if you intend to OC. They both overclock to the same place.

>>61377964
The EVO is NVME. Anything 2.5 is going to be held back by AHCI storage protocols and SATA bandwidth limitations.

/sqt/ derail for a second no bully:

is it possible to build your own laptop from scratch the same way you would a custom PC?

>>61376414
Is that why you doubled up on ram for your ryzen build? Looks like you've already made your decision

>>61378011
>If you used to build Bionicles
Then is it destiny? I pretty much owned every set.

>>61378030
Not really unless you go to a manufacturer.

And have fun paying out the wazoo if you want more customization than what they offer.

>>61377984
If it's just the components you are after, and never intend to upgrade, it's worth it just to buy pre-built. Usually cheaper, sometimes significantly.
If you like the idea of swapping all things in and out of your machine easily, better to build yourself.

>>61378031
I have barely any idea what I'm doing.

>>61378034
Just don't offload a million volts of static electricity when you touch something or snap anything in half, and you cannot fail.

>>61378034
just do research and watch a bunch of youtube videos. theres a bunch of tech yotube channels that show how to do it.
recommendations:
JayzTwoCents
Hardware Canucks
Bitwit
Hardware Unboxed
Tech Yes City
Paul's Hardware

so lads my pc is turning on, i can hear the sounds of the applications starting and all but i got no image, i pluged the monitor on the cpu and it worked, do i have a problem on the graphics card or could it be the psu, sorry if its the wrong thread

>>61378073
How are you getting audio, line out?
Are there any lights lit up on the mobo?

>>61378073
Specs

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>>61378060
>JayzTwoCents

Currently have a Xeon 1231v3, is it worth upgrading to a 7700k?

NVME SSD's worth it? Thinking about a 960 EVO

Looking for an upgrade from my U2412HM. I want to go 4K and IPS, but I'm not sure my card would keep up (1070). 1440p might be a better route. Are there any good 1440p, IPS, 144hz monitors out there?

>>61378073
GPU might not be connected properly.
Monitors might not be connected properly.
Or firmware might be incompatible with software.

I'll need details.

>>61377942>>61378021

You should to post what you're using the computer for or else people are going to cheap it out because it doesn't make sense just for gaming.

You need the 32gb for the video game dev thing, probably... You can always upgrade this later though.

>>61376303
Did windows update? I'm to lazy and ignorant to help you but maybe try resetting you mobo

>>61378090
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHAelSOF6f0

No, he's not a rapper. He's as far from one as you can get. pasty white guy with graying hair

>>61378086
im using headphones, yeah theres a light inside the pc

>>61378116
>You need the 32gb for the video game dev thing
Yes, my apologies, I didn't realize.
If you're a developer, you may require large amounts of RAM, such as 32GB.

>>61378154
>a light
>a
...Post your gd speccy. I can't work with this.

>>61378154
if you built it, you should have gotten a manual with your motherboard, or google probably

will tell you what the light means

>>61378060
I always wanted to post this guy, this is a playlist about the basic components:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xzWLQi5EQg&list=PLnLwAnYLqFhGTTwU0xGoCodpyT39Y6XsC&index=2

It covers most of the theory things, I recommend it for beginners.

>>61378116
Here are my goals:
Stable and consistent framerates with no stuttering
144fps @ 1080p, 60fps @ 1440p graphics maxed (obv. Game dependent)
VR
VR Game development
Software development
Streaming

>>61378238
And my budget is 2-3k

>>61378173
sorry its a yellow/orange light on a Dell Inc. 0KWVT8 motherboard and apparently it means its all good

>>61378238
1700
1080

>>61378238
https://pcpartpicker.com/

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>>61376672
Not him. But integrated speakers sound retarded. And buying new(I'd go with second hand) speakers will probably be cheaper over all.
Pic of my speakers. They're about 20 years old. Still work like a charm

>>61376303
did you plug it in the GPU and not the mobo

>>61378238
Kind of tough, but since you want to do game development and such, I'd stick to something powerful, like Threadripper, or drop down to R7 1700.

The 7700K will deliver on those 144Hz, but it trends to have stutter, when compared to ryzen.
Maybe an i9? But that has been a total shitfest and over your budget

>>61378238
Post your build.

Is the GPU flood on eBay starting?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Powercolor-Red-Dragon-Radeon-RX-480-4GB-card-for-Bitcoin-Ethereum-mining-/263085871560?hash=item3d4123d1c8:g:5y8AAOSw0TxZZrzx

>>61378272
This is pre-built?
If MOBO has lights, it's getting power so you can rule that out. If the MOBO is the ONLY component showing lights that might indicate a problem or it might be the norm. Is the display backlit or is it just not turning on at all? That could indicate the monitor itself isn't getting power, but if it's backlit that means its an internal component. The GPU should have lights on it near the base, or a light near it on the MOBO to indicate it's getting power too. It's important to note that you're assuming the processes are operating within normal parameters, so if they are then its most likely a display issue. I'd try updating ALL the drivers you possibly can, reboot, and see if that helps your system kickstart its own diagnostic.

>>61378350
Its a saga
>>61376222
>>61377359
>>61377942

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>>61378272
he means this. download piriform speccy, run it, and screencap this so we know what your working with.
Pic related is my Dell Inspiron 7567 gaming laptop.

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>>61376709
Its not fair!!

>>61378336
yeah okay grandpa

>>61378392
>he turns on his computer
>gets no image
Yeah, I'd like to see a speccy too

>>61376591
What's this distributor bundling? I've never heard of it.

>>61378420
Sites like newegg are only selling certain video cards with processors so miners are buying the combo and selling the CPUs for cheap.

>>61378388
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NDhHgL
Change the following
CPU: R7 1700
Motherboard: B350 MB
SSD: Samsung 960 PRO. You know your use case, so if you have massive files you need to be able to quickly work with, get a bigger drive.

If you feel the GPU performance is inadequate, you can SLI later. But as mentioned, SLI returns aren't very high, and can be wonky.

>>61378443
Oh my. Those tossers might be good for something yet.

>>61378379
Does this mean I should sell my 480 Strix now while I can still get $450-500?

>>61377942
thats better
you should probably go for a regular ssd really its not like youll notice the speed increase
and go for a g2 psu or something no need for platinum
also do u unironically like that case?
you could lower the mobo even more to like 150 i supposed and why do you have to liquid cool? just get a fan

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My AMD 7970 is finally kill after 4 and a half years.
Rest in peace.
I'm thinking of upgrading to a gtx now, anyone using a 1050/1060?
Or any gpu recommendations in general.
I only go to 1080 and 60fps

>>61378051
Neither do I. But I think doubling up those 8x8 by 8x8 rams. Would be better by getting one 16x16 ram. Also ryzen if your fucking about with game dev.

>tfw in you're lifetime Intel will be the el-cheapo brand and AMD will be the enthusiast brand
>http://www.anandtech.com/show/11625/new-intel-kaby-lake-processors-spotted-i3-desktop-u-series-soc-and-a-xeon
More 2c4t Pentium/i3s

Best GPU for less than $50?

I just need something temp.

>>61378505
wait a few weeks. The market is just recovering from a mining boom that's just started to collapse. Sometime next month, when prices are normal again, grab either an RX 580 or whatever the new Vega card being announced at the end of this month is.

>>61378522
What, bought a Ryzen without a discrete?

>>61378502
>>61378452
Well fuck now im questioning the whole thing. Im going back to the drawing board

>>61378630
What's the question?

>>61378665
I have to do more research on this hardware myself or im just going to keep bouncing around with other people's suggestions not understanding why amd never come to a build thats good for me. I don't know what the fuck im doing basically.

>>61378388
About the case looks like that was picked so it wont have incompatibilities.

The Fractal Design - Define XL R2 for under 120 usd is one of the best Full Towers in my opinion. For under 100usd you have the Phanteks Enthoo Pro or the Define R5 that still holds enough space and drives.

Some cases comes with frontal HDMI or a VR holding magnet specifically made for VR like the s340 elite, you can google about them.

>>61378538
No. My card got fried and I need a cheap replacement.

>>61376737
Solid if you can find that card in stock. Cooler may be overkill but it'll keep cool under a heavy oc if you're willing to spend. Just make sure it won't interfere with your ram and pcie slots.

>>61378702
I'm going to break down my suggestions to you specifically.
The 1700X and 1700 are the same chip, save one automatically overclocks higher. If you OC yourself, they both hit the same 4.0GHz.
The X370's big selling point over B350 boards is the extra I/O. Unless you need even more USB ports, it's not worth spending the extra money.
Your SSD is good, but in a workstation environment where you need to work with and manipulate large variables on the drive quickly, the 960 PRO's MLC will have better performance than the 960 EVO's TLC.
Don't do SLI. If for whatever reason you do, get a 850W PSU minimum to drive it.

There are my explanations.

>>61378534
I'm not in ameriland so prices are already inflated anyways.

>>61377300
Sounds hit or miss by the reviews. I'd only get it if it came with a warranty. Considering getting one myself.

>>61378817
>hurr mining is US specific only
it's worldwide dipshit. it affects you no matter where you live.

>>61378881
did i even say that?
I was saying an additional thing

>>61378794
That makes sense. The only thing that worries me about 1700 is i dont necessarily know how to overclock. I did it to my 3570k but that was years ago. Are you positive about the sli being a meme? My goals i stated above about game performance, I don't plan on higher than 1440p, but will that setup get me there? I'm willing to spend more to reach it.

As for mobo,I do feel like i need a lot of usb 3.0 ports. The microsoft mixed reality headset needs two, and the rift needs similar i believe. Mouse, keyboard, wifi adapter, bluetooth adapter (unless that stuff is built in nowadays). The only other benefit I see is support for sli, which again comes down to wether i can hit my goals without it.

>>61378881
works in my country

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Monitor question, lads;
I've never owned an IPS monitor before. I got a refurbished one relatively cheap, muh 4k gaming.

It has a weird behavior that I don't know if it's natural; It will appear to flicker around the left and right edges. Top, bottom, center of left and right side. And sometimes it gets really pale and strange-contrast-y.

Is this normal? Do IPS monitors need to 'warm up' or something? Should I be worried? My GTX 1080 seems to think its drivers are updated.

>>61378928
Overclocking isn't like the old days where you had to manually move jumpers around. It's all in the bios or from windows now.

>>61378998
How does this look, then
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8sQJ9W

air cooled cpu + stock hybrid cooled 1080ti
or
full liquid loop with 1080

>>61378943
that isn't normal. Probably fucked backlight driver

>>61378928
If you feel you need the USB ports that only X370 offers, that's your call. You know your use cases better than I.
SLI is a joke. But if you feel you want it, most X370 board support 2 PCIE x16 slots, so you can always upgrade later. You have your options open. Just pick up a board with 2 x16 slots.
Overclocking an R7 is a piece of cake. Look for guides online. It's very simple.
The only thing you may want to consider is how many files you will be putting on the SSD. Only you know this. If you intend on having hundreds of gigabytes of data on the SSD, it may pay to go for a larger capacity model, rather than the 250GB.

>>61379085
Jesus Christ that SSD. Well, you're covered for the future I guess.
If SLI is an option you want open, get an 850W PSU minimum. And of course, only you know how many USB ports you need, so it's worth considering a model with more (perhaps X370). Of course, for things like mice and Bluetooth that don't need the bandwidth of the whole port you can always use a splitter if you need to.

>>61379085
Your motherboard can't do SLI if that's something you want.

>>61379124
Well, that depends. Usually loops are not well if the budget is a constrain. You want quality components. So the first options

>>61379156
Ok, i see, thanks anon. So you think this build will get me here

>>61378238
I'm not going to sli, everyone is suggesting against it, so i think im zeroing in on the final build of i can get what i need

What's your guys most expensive build?

That's including the upgrades your putting in?

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>>61378392
>>61378381
sorry i took this long had to solve something, yes its pre built, i repluged the graphics card and there was no light coming from it(but i dont know if it ever had any), all the pc lights turned on(the yellow motherboard light, the green light in the back, the power button light, the ''working'' light), my graphics card is a gtx 645
heres my speccy, i already tried different monitors and changed all the cables

>>61379440
after $85 in rebates I'm at around 620 with an R5 and regular GTX 1050 on the way

>>61379085
I think you completely missed the point since you can't play maxed out 1080p 120fps with a Ryzen 1700, not even near.

Like I originally said if you have the money just get the better chip which is the Ryzen 1800x for Christ sake who the fuck cares about OC, that's literally betting silicon lottery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddEFbTT3C5Y

This isn't a problem with the Ryzen 1700 but with games, games right now prefer single core performance and the reason I recommended the 1800x is because it performs almost the same than the 6800k which also performs similarly than the 7700k.

What's the best place to get a Win10 key for a new build? I looked at Kinguin but it looks kind of sketchy.

Is buying a 4790k these days a bad choice?

>>61379465
Well fuck, I had that and then people told me to get a 1700 instead. :(

>>61379562
at this point buy a console

>>61379590
I have every console already desu

When will fucking ethereum crash so I can buy my GTX 1070 in a not so inflated price.

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>>61377359
I just see so many many problems with the build

>1080ti hybrid
>16gb of mid speed DDR4
>1800x instead of a 1700x
>Shitty looking case for $200
>Overkill PSU
>Overkill Mobo from ASUS

I instead fix it for you
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/847LTH

Beside you don't need a 1080ti hybrid for only 1080p and 1440p gaming, A nice GTX 1070 will give the job done good for that plus just get a 1700x and overclock it to 1800x you get the same performance for $100 less

>>61379465
>just get the better chip which is the Ryzen 1800x
He's going to OC anyway. Why pay more? There's no tangible evidence of better binning in the 1800X.

>>61379557
Unless you like to suck the semen off of Intel's dick like some anons, just get something like a ryzen 5 CPU because 4790k go for like $180-$200 used and you can get a brand new ryzen 5 for the same money

>>61379710
>says the guy who sucks of Pajeet's semen

>>61377535
Is it safe to assume the lacking thermal could reduce the lifespan of the parts?
>>61377598
The Node 202 fits full sized GPU's, so I'm not to worried on that front. Though, I think I will wait for the Raven Ridge release. Thanks anon.

>>61379659
Im not sold on 1070 over 1080ti. Im willing to spend more money to get the best performance within my budget, and since I'll be doing vr dev work I need to make sure the compromises i make are because of reasonable cost / performance measures, not simply trying to save money for the sake of it. So the question becomes... Is a ti worth the extra two hundred? This is a large purchase I'm going to be using ideally for years with minimal adjustments to specs.

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>>61379722
>Calls me a Intel shill faggot
>doesn't realize I'm shitposting on my main laptop with an Intel i3

>>61379802
Nice fabricated specs Rajh.

>>61379770
For something you'll be keeping for years, it's worth it to go for the 1080ti.
Even today, at 1080p, it's possible to drop below 60fps on a 1080ti by maxing all settings out. When discussing things like dev work in VR, forget about it. I have half a mind to tell you to go for Titan Xp, but the value is just too terrible.
Honestly you are bumping into the ceiling for what is reasonable with consumer gear.

>>61379822
I am not a reasonable person

>>61379770
For the money yes a 1080ti is way better than a 1080 because it even it outpeforms the $1200 old titan x pascal

But I don't think you should go all out on a PC just yet because because Navi GPUs are at least two year ahead, you rather just save some money because you would want better things ahead in the future not futureproofing a PC and expect it to be the best for the next 5-10 years because Hardware improves overtime as it progresses

>>61379544
Wrong thread, moron.

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>>61379809
Yeah sure thing faggot

>>61379881
As long as I'm within my budget I'm not too concerned about money honestly. I have enough, as long as I'm getting what I need.

>>61379924
Then yeah just go for the 1080ti

>>61375995
I am making a build but I'm missing a couple components. What should I pick?

Mobo: ASUS KFS4N-DRE - 100$ used on ebay

CPU(s): 2 AMD Opteron 6172 - 10$ used on ebay

RAM: 16GB of DDR2 ECC memory - 17$ used on ebay (>tfw server ram is way cheaper now)

CPU cooler: ??? what do you guys reccomend ???

Case: ??? what do you guys reccomend ???

PSU: ??? what do you guys reccomend ???

GPU: ??? needs to work with only free as in freedom drivers. The only option is Nvidia running with Nouveau because AMD drivers have blobs. What do you reccomend? ???

HDD: Allready have a few ones laying around.

Anything else I need? What should I use for GPU, Case and PSU?

>>61379949
What's your budget and what are you using your rig for?

>>61379977
Budget: 600$ more or less.
Use: normal desktop stuff like web browsing and compiling. I'm trying to build a high end free as in freedom desktop I can libreboot so I don't have to use old thinkpads for all my computing.

>>61376500
>>61376573
Ryzen 7 should be fine with 144 fps at 1080p. That said even a 7700K@5Ghz will have instability in framerate depending on settings so you'll have to adjust things to achieve that constantly. It's much easier to get a free-sync/g-sync monitor and not have to worry about nailing 144 fps all the time.

>>61376357
It's pretty significant depending on what you're doing. Just don't use very slow speeds like 2133 or something. I would go for a minimum of 3000 or 2933 which should be pretty achievable even with 4 slots populated.

>>61380108
Just stop computing, man.

>>61380062
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mLvJ9W


There I was able to go a bit under budget but its a good combination of new and used parts

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If you had 3k to spend on a desktop/peripherals, what would you get?

>>61380344
Thanks.

>>61380346

The exact same setup I have now except with $1500 worth of 1080Ti and Gsync monitor instead of 1050Ti and budget Asus monitor.

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picked this bad boy up today

>>61380346
What about 10k?

are 120/144hz monitors a meme for non competitive gaymers? Need a new monitor as i both game(non competitive) and draw on my screen, is the Ultrasharp U2414H good enough for gaymen and content creation? Also thinking of Viewsonic XG2401 as they say it has good display for a 144hz monitor and is pretty cheap

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LDg7jc
Literally sitting here with finger over the order button, one last pass over pcbg

>>61380152
Nice contribution.

>>61380450
$8.5k in the fucking bank.

>>61380542
The nex psu's aren't good. Go for G2 or G3

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X4LQbj
Improved version of >>61377439
Thoughts?

>>61380443
still didn't cable manage, fuck boy.

>>61380542
That m2 is shit, get the real thing senpai.

And holy shit $20 a fan

>>61380685
You don't need a H115i or expensive meme paste

>>61380592
Is it really that bad? The next EVGA PSU is a $60 jump for the same Wattage. What's a another decent PSU to look for?
>>61380644
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/NFTLTH
Better? And I'm getting the fans for 50% off thanks to loyalty deal; they're on special and I get a bit more off
Still need a PSU worth grabbing, preferably from these guys (as they're just down the road so no shipping issues). http://www.umart.com.au/newsite/category.php?id=140

>>61380710
Fuck, accidently closed my tab lol.

But yes, your first choice had a read/write in the 500MBps, the 960 has a 3200,1500MBps read write. It's worth the extra pennies man.

>>61380700
>meme

Literally the best performing paste and not a meme. It is fairly expensive though.

>>61380685
Just get a Ryzen 5 or 7, at 1440p you'll be GPU bound and the 7700K won't have any real advantage.

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>ryzen build arriving early next week
>still no GPU

guess im pulling this shit out of the old tower sitting in the closet.

who here /256MB/

What's up with pcpartpicker giving ridiculous prices currently?

>>61380837
I keep an old GPU around too but I think it's 1GB. Good luck with the 256MB, m8

>>61380856
How long have you been under that rock my dude.

>>61380790
Thanks man, yea I'm aiming for a streaming/uni/gaming rig (not game streaming just fyi) so the extra speed will definitely be noticed. Thanks for the catch; I mean if i'm using M2 I might as well make the most of it.

>>61380837
So, it throttles with youtube 720p, right?

Do I really want OC'd ram? Anything wrong with just buying native? I don't feel like throwing out hundreds for ram of all parts.

>>61380891
Youtube was still 240P with 360P being "High Quality" and not even properly listed when I last did anything with it.

It can actually run TF2 on mid/high at 1024x768 pretty well if i remember correctly

>>61380890
In addition to, that first choice M.2 looks like a prebuilt part whereas the 960 M.2 looks badass.I'm running a 480GB PNY SSD now, I got it for $99 before shit skyrocketed, it's like $160 now, but my next move for my OS drive is an M.2

>>61381044
Yea that's true too, I didn't even think about that; and on the white mobo (I was going for an A E S T H E T I C build this time; first try at it) it would've stood out like a sore thumb. Nice catch

>>61380710
>What's a another decent PSU to look for?
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/R7V48d/seasonic-power-supply-ssr650rm
Less sexy, substantially better quality.
NEX weren't great when released, and have been superseded since then.

Did I fuck up buying this? Didn't go for an RGB meme, I promise. I hate RGB

http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002915

>>61381198
It's an okay model. Not great, not terrible.

>>61381230
Okay, I don't care about the RGB, just needed a big enough PSU from a 1050 to a 1080

>>61381175
Nice, and it's only a few bucks dearer than my EVGA choice. You're a legend anon. Also, I have the 1060 (which is why it's in the build) but later on when I get a 1440p/4k screen will this system be right to handle a 1080 swapped in? Seems strong enough but as I said just getting my bases covered by you awesome guys

>>61381264
I'm currently running a 1080 on a 650W, so yes.

>>61381264
It will be more than enough. You could probably manage even with 550W.

>>61381277
>>61381284
Legendary, and I'm assuming a 1080ti would be fine but maybe getting a little close. But for now, I'll cross that bridge when I get there. Thanks guys, items ordered and paid for; I'll post the completed build when I get it

>>61381306
>1080ti would be fine but maybe getting a little close
Not even. A 1080ti would be fine. I doubt such a build would suck more than 500W from the wall even at load. You have tons of room to grow.

>It's literally impossible to disable the LEDs on MSI GPUs

RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>61381322
Awesome, this is the computer i plan on running with for the next 3-5yrs if I can get away with it; my last one cost me about 2k as well and it's just hit it's 6th birthday and all I had to upgrade was the 660 to a 1060.
>>61381337
But why would you want to lose those amazing MSI red LEDs anon, don't you know red makes your GPU process faster! :^)

>>61381198
It's pretty good, but the fan likes to spin up and down sometimes when you have it in the dynamic setting, and don't expect anything special from the RGB.

>>61381355
With AM4 accepting CPU upgrades until 2020, and the GPU being easily switched out, you won't need to actually remove the motherboard. Just upgrade CPU/GPU and add RAM as necessary.

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>>61381406
>2020 is less than 3 years away

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3vRdQV

Can any anon tell me if this build is a very good to bulid?

I recently got money and want to make a new PC

Is this the perfect build for the money?

>>61381425
>seagate HDD
>corsair PSU
>literally who monitor

No it's bad.

>>61381306
There is a 70W difference between the 1080 and the 1080ti - 180w and 250w respectively.

Recommended System Power for a 1080ti is 600W

>>61381425
I'd just stick with the bleach. When it arrives, make a Youtube video of you drinking it.

>>61381371
Yeah I don't care about the RGB, my corsair 230T came with red fans, and that PSU has RGB and so does my ASUS STRIX so it doesn't matter to me, it's on the floor.

>>61381425
Got a solid chuckle out of me
>>61381476
Yea I just checked the build with everything I plan to put in it and the 1080ti, thanks man. I should be fine then as long as I'm not trying to run Meme-fire.

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>>61381425
>Logitech - H110 Headset
>$6.52

Wow, just found an SLC drive for sale. I thought those had completely disappeared.

Who else here has weird quirks when it comes to their builds?
>Freak out anytime my GPU/CPU breaks 40c
>All wires must be colour coded, even in a completely boxed case
>Always have to have a dvd/cd drive

>>61381584
>Always have to have a dvd/cd drive


I used to be like that.


Also unrelated to anything but tangentially related to the thread, I was listening to a radio show earlier and wasn't paying enough attention but caught a bit, something about etherium mining getting the rug pulled out from under it but I haven't bothered to really look into it. Any accuracy to this, and does that mean we're gonna get a drop in GPU prices back closer to msrp?

>>61381584
I bet you own a fidget spinner.

>>61381513
Isn't it pretty bassass senpai?

>>61381693
>>61381584

I got a little USB CD/DVD drive, and it's weened me off the 5.25" drives completely. I just built a new desktop and didn't put one in because I told myself "If I ever need the capability I've got that little USB thing in a box somewhere".

I've needed to use it twice in 7 years.

>>61377438
just bought my parts for mitx ryzen, I went for the MLO8B-H case. the AB350N- Gaming Wifi is a great little motherboard.

>>61381425
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3vRdQV
Only $266882.80 and still not compatible, take your (You).

>>61381198
The 850W got a "meh, not bad" in this review: https://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/09/06/thermaltake_toughpower_dps_g_rgb_850w_psu_review/9

I'd imagine the 650W is similar unless they really fucked it up.

>>61381584
This is neurotic behavior

>>61381693
I am still like that, as in even if there isn't a 5.25 external mount, I mount it inside the case or "bolt" one onto the side of my case using magnets.

Etherium prices have nosedived recently, but other memecoins are still worthwhile to mine; don't expect it to change anything drastically
>>61381697
Nope, those things are even too autistic for me
>>61381711
I know, and i really should spring for a USB one but I have a perfectly good working one here...I use mine quite often as I have over 200 martial arts movies, including everything with Jack Chan in it.

>>61381778
>he hasn't long since ripped the movies

Anon, please.

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Is Ryzen 3 cut from the same silicon as Ryzen 5/7, or is it a new ASIC?

>>61381788
But they're on my CDs, which I will keep...why would i need to double up what they're stored on?

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>>61381778
>Etherium prices have nosedived recently, but other memecoins are still worthwhile to mine; don't expect it to change anything drastically

Fuck. I had hope I might bet my hands on a decent mid-range gpu and not break my budget.

The next time I see cheap GPUS I might have to jump in on this bandwagon.. but knowing my luck I'd join in right as the implosion starts.

>>61381851
*get

>>61381816
Data stored in one place is data you don't care about.

>>61381851
It'll shake things up, and in fact I think we might see a slowdown in the "race to riches" that memecoins bring as people are realising just how much they can lose on them.

I surprisingly snagged a 1060 6gb for 250AUD just before the giant inflation without even realising; ebay had a sale with a discount code and I just grabbed from the lowest seller. I say still hold out, because as Eth stablises and recovers from this sudden nose dive, you'll see a few people wanting to "check out" of the game just because its not their cup of tea.
>>61381865
I really can't argue with you there...what'd be the cheapest option for storing them?

>>61381887
Eh, I'll wait and see, I was already going to wait till near Christmas before upgrading to Ryzen anyway.

>>61381778
I feel ya, it was only $85 no biggy

>>61381851
Some perspective: ETH went from ~60 USD in March to over 400 USD in May and now ~200. It's overall patterns are mirrored in other major coins as well. Crypto is volatile like any market with relatively small market cap but a lot of investor interest so I wouldn't read into these fluctuations too much in terms of long-term projections.

Either way I don't see the GPU situation changing substantially in the short term. Hopefully some of the flightier miners will abandon ship and give up some GPUs here and there but most that know what they're doing will stick to it.

Reminder that even now, SSD and RAM prices are going to go up before they go down.
We're not over the hump yet, and still climbing.

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/mnjzcc

>buy EVGA 500W power supply
>get mobo and CPU, start assembling
>supply cords don't seem to fit or go anywhere
>loose cables for everything except main power, but can't reach both ATX 12V and ATX simultaneously which I assume is required
>CPU on the other hand fits like a glove
I fucked up big time lads. Need a power supply for my micro atx mobo and I'm 100% clueless as to what I should get. Yes I know
>a fucking leaf
but try to focus on the actual question for once

>>61382139
>he didn't get a Seasonic 80+Platinum PSU

When will you people learn that the PSU is the single most important component in the entire build? It is the first line of defense between your precious computer parts and the nasty poorly regulated wall power in your house.

>>61382139
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/JGthpb

Here you go my maple syrup friend

>>61382139
You're too dumb to connect a PSU to your system. Another PSU won't make you smarter.

>>61382173
>not having a power regenerator

Top cuck

>>61382173
It's my first build and even tough I tried doing my homework I never really focused much on the power supply of all things. Feel free to call me a retard

>>61382200
The connectors are too big. I looked at both manuals (mobo and PSU) and the part names match up, but the connectors don't. But good job toasing dirt inatead of trying to help as usual

>>61382223
Your components are ATX standard. Everything works here but your brain.

>>61382239
It's a micro ATX

>>61382223
>>61382308
Post Pictures so we can see what the fuck you're going on about.

>>61382308
It doesn't matter. The power connectors are standardized under ATX. Newest revision is ATX12V 2.4

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>>61382331
There are two CPU cables (or rather one since theybare taped together) and the mobo's manual says the bigger one (10 pins) should go into the 12 socket slot, and the small one (2 pins) into the smaller socket, but since they are taped together I can't connect both simultaneously. The small bump on the smaller plug prevents me from connecting both plugs to the 12-pin socket simultaneously. And yes I know I got the wire on the fan messed up. I'll correct that later. I removed the PSU so I could see the wires better without getting my fingers on the mobo accidentally
>inb4 oh shit nigger what are you doing

>>61382239
post pictures so we can make sure you're not trying to plug a PCIE cable into a PCIE slot.

The only shit you need to run power to on your mobo should be the 24 pin mobo power connector (longest rectangular connector) and the 4 pin CPU connector which is square.

>just +400mhz memory OC GTX 1060 6gb
>get graphic artifacts
What the fuck?

>>61382421
>12
>2
meant 24 and 4, my bad

>>61382444
Right above your post

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>>61382421
.....

Full 24 connector to the MOBO power slot. The two are "separate" but it acts as one unit.

A separate power cable goes to the lower connector, one of the one's that's two 4 pin connectors together.

>nzxt collects and spies on their users
I hope no one bought nzxt stuff

>>61382476
How do they do that if they only sell cases and cooling stuff.... spyware in the controllers?

>>61382421
There should be a large, fat cable that has 20 pins and another 4 hanging off the side (or it might just be 24 whole pins). Stick that in the socket at the top of the picture you posted. All 24 pins go in, even if the 4 are dangling off.

The 4/4 pin CPU connector should go into the hole at the bottom of your picture.

>>61382468
And like I said, the bloody tape has them together. If I cut it off I'd be gorig the whole damn wire and I don't have any insulated tape on me at the momment to fix it afterwards. It's right there in the post and image, I can't stretch them apart to fit in both slots simultaneously

>>61382497
The 4 at the side have a small bump that prevents both from being put togetger as a whole unit

What's the pcbg standard hdd recommendation? Looking to get 3tb for under $100.

>>61382508
Don't cut anything unless it's clearly and obviously mean to be temporary. You don't have a clue about what you are doing and risk damaging your purchase.

>>61382493
The program to startup the led lighting suite monitors, collects and sends a shit load of data to nzxt. That includes ip addresses and Mac address.

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>>61382508
>I can't stretch them apart to fit in both slots simultaneously

You aren't supposed to. The two pieces act as a single unit. You use the 4/4 cable that's labeled CPU for that other slot.

>The 4 at the side have a small bump that prevents both from being put together as a whole unit

Take a better photo without your hand in the way, that shouldn't be, it should fit together.

>>61382536
Good to know. Won't be doing business with them I guess.

>>61382532
Well yes exactly, but then what the shit am I supposed to do? Is there such a thing as an extension for the 4-pin one? I'm pretty sure I shouldn't connect just one and leave the other hanging there, and connecting both on the same socket would require cutting off the bump as well since it prevents both parts from going in simultaneously

>>61382560
Okay, first things first.
Plug your 24 pin motherboard connector into the power receptacle on the motherboard. It should be closest where your DVD drive would be, on the edge of the board. We can worry about the other connectors after.

The cable you are holding in the picture is the 24 pin motherboard power cable (20 pin + 4 pin). It appears the receptacle is at the top of your picture. Stick it in. Don't apply too much pressure if it's not working.

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>>61382559

>>61382591
Goes in no problem. The REAL issue is the bloody 4 pin one

>>61382600
And I should elaborate: the bumps are not on the sides paralel to the plug, but rather sticking out directly from it so I can't "slide" both parts together

>>61382600
Okay, that's fine. But understand this: those cables go in that hole. Don't try anywhere else. You just need to figure out how.

What model of PSU do you have?

>>61382630
EVGA 500W

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>>61382600
>>61382625
ok I'm stumped, they should fit around the main piece and kinda lock them together. At least that's for it fit together on my build... I think.

>>61382630
he said it's an EVGA or some kind in the 500w range up above.

>>61382641
I'd like the exact model name. I want to reference your PSU precisely.

>>61382661
https://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-WHITE-Warranty-Supply-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&dpID=51PiQrWaNjL&dpPl=1&keywords=EVGA%20500%20W1%2C%2080%2B%20WHITE%20500W&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&qid=1500096435&ref=plSrch&ref_=mp_s_a_1_1&sr=8-1

What are some good prebuilt PCs that you can get for under $400? My dad just needs one for internet news or whatever. A used Thinkpad is too small for his chinky eyes and I don't have the time to build him a new one.
I live in SF, so I think it'd be pretty easy to get a used PC from some office

>>61382682
Your 4 pin should be oriented such that the writing on it (4P) is directly beside the writing on the 20 pin (20+). If you were reading it, it would say 20+4P

>>61382722
Prebuilts are shit. You can make a 400 dollar Prebuilts easily with g4600. No need for a gpu. Buy refurbished hdd if you have to. The most expensive part will probably be the monitor itself.

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>>61382735
You should be able to just stick it in oriented like this picture, no?

>>61382745
I've seen retarded tech companies throw out perfectly fine prebuilt office PCs with i5s in them so they can replace all their computers with Macbooks. I really don't have the time to build a PC.

>>61382762
No point in asking in this thread since we don't know which companies are throwing those i5s. If you do find them you can post the price and the build here and we can tell you if it is worth or not.

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>>61382750
>>61382735
I tried it once more and finally managed to slide them into a single unit. Thanks for sitting with me through my sheer retardation. Now I just gotta figure out what else goes where, and the OP should be helpful enough

>>61382762
You can find trashputers at auctions and shit for literally pennies sometimes. Look for universities and government auctions in your area.

>>61382722
Do you not have like 1-2hrs at night to sit down and make your dad his PC? Hell, 20-30min a night and you'll have it built in a week.

Here I even saved you some more time
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jcz3D8

>>61382781
I probably should've made myself clearer. There are certain models specifically designed for offices that are usually available for really cheap. They're perfectly fine computers and I'd like to know their names so I know what to search for on Craigslist or eBay.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NDhHgL

looking to build a new pc since im giving my younger brother mine, thoughts?

>>61382832
No idea. Check your local universities and libraries and ask. That is a lot easier than using ebay.

>>61382842
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

wrong link thats another dudes build oops

>>61382798
I built my own with an i3 a couple years ago and I know how easy it is, but I just don't have the time right now.
I also definitely don't have the time to camp out in my apartment waiting for parts to arrive. SF is a shit place and I don't trust my neighbors to not steal shit that FedEx just leaves in the lobby.

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>>61382782
Not 100% sure but it looks like all your ram slots are blocked by your cpu cooler. Could just be a perspective thing though.

>>61382421

Other than that, 4/4 to the slot down at the bottom, Sata connections are right beside the power slot and should be labeled sata1, 2 etc. You should have some cables that go between your drive and that slot somewhere.

GPU (if you have one) goes along that red slot that's on the PSU end of the board and a PCIE cable should go to that


Other than that, there should be a slot for your front pane stuff, and then the switches will be a little tricky since that's all individually connected but your mobo guide should have a map for that.

>>61382858
Try again friendo.

>>61382832
Pick up refurbished office crap on Newegg. You can find them for like $100 or under.
Whether they're in 100% working order or will last a year is another question.

>>61382858
i think its time to stop drinking holy moly

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TCP4WX

>>61382881
Just one. Like I said on my first pic I borked it up so I'll fix it later. I only intend to get 16 Gb (2x8) anyway

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Hi babes, how does this look for 1440p? NCIX claims compatibility issues with the motherboard and case (?)
Case in question:
http://www.ncix.com/detail/corsair-obsidian-series-750d-airflow-fc-110329.htm
Motherboard:
http://www.ncix.com/detail/asrock-fatal1ty-x370-gaming-k4-2b-139781.htm

How does this build look? Worth getting 1700/1800x or would the 1600x be more than enough for future maxing at 1440p

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/rNwB3F

thoughts?

mainly for gaming, some streaming of sport via ace stream. Currently have a Samsung 1080p monitor but will be getting a 1440p at some point soon after building this.

I the H60 good enough, or should I air cool in that case?
Any monitor recommendations?

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>>61382881
>4/4 to the slot down there
aaaand the pihs don't match. Cpu has slots in this shape:
XOOX
OXXO
And my power supply goes:
OOOX
OOXO
obviously they aren't X and O shaped that's just for typing convenience but still what the fuck. These don't go in at all

>>61383043
For purely gaming a 1600X is fine. You can always get a more powerful CPU when Zen2 releases next year since they'll be on the same socket and hopefully your mobo vendor keeps your BIOS updated to support it.

A few things:
You can get cheaper Windows 10 Pro/Home OEM keys from sites like Kinguin, sometimes even for $20 or less. They're legit just make sure to buy from a good vendor. You can download the Windows installation media from Microsoft for free

Your PSU wattage is overkill although you can keep it if you intend to add another GPU or just want a lot of headroom. Frankly, 600W would be fine but that's up to you. Consider the EVGA G3 650W as an alternative.

You might opt for an M.2 SATA or NVMe SSD if you have use for it. NVMe offer much better performance but you may not need it unless you do video editing or something else that can use very high throughput. For gaming I think it won't matter. However, M.2 drives (SATA or NVMe) are very convenient and require no cables.

>>61383253
>CPU
meant mobo. Also the SATA pins in the power supply are far bigger than the ones in the mobo. Fuck everything

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>>61383253
Are you sure you grabbed the CPU power cable and not a PCIE 8 pin.

>>61383337
Yes they are labeled CPU and PCIE. No way to confuse them

>>61383301
>Also the SATA pins in the power supply are far bigger than the ones in the mobo.

That's to prevent dipshits from connecting their PSU sata connection to the Data port on the mobo and frying everything. The smaller L shaped sata cable connects between the mobo and the hard drive. The PSU connects to the hard drive with the larger L shaped cable OR the molex cable if your hdd accepts that (never connect the sata power and the molex power to the hard drive though because that's a quick way to get a paperweight).

>>61383363
>Yes they are labeled CPU and PCIE. No way to confuse them

Considering you tried to connect a power cable to a data port....

Look through your PSU cables and pray something was simply mislabeled because the CPU power connection is kinda standardized. I'm presuming the xs in that diagram stand for square pegs, yes?

>>61383408
>second reply
Yes. I assumed the non-square ones (hexagons?) would fit the square slots since they are simply cut corners, but they don't go in at all. And now I'm afraid of what might happen if they DO go in. After I got a CPU, mobo and PSU up can I boot into the BIOS or do I still need RAM and a GPU? The mobo suposedly has an onboard card but I'm not 100% sure

What are some decent moderately priced speakers

>>61383450
>Yes. I assumed the non-square ones (hexagons?) would fit the square slots since they are simply cut corners, but they don't go in at all. And now I'm afraid of what might happen if they DO go in.

I'll be honest... I have no idea. Anyway, photograph your connectors for your CPU power cable and PCIE power cable.

as to the second question, yes you need the ram to boot up and display your bios. No you shouldn't need a GPU.

>>61383494
depends on your definitions of decent and moderately priced.

>>61383517
Happen to just have a general guide then?

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>>61383517
they went in after a lotnof excruciating positioning, but no force. I'm still awfully concerned about the mismatched shapes but you know what, I don't give a fuck anymore. I'm sure someone out there is laughed their ass off at me for only managing to get shot right after complaining about it but by now I just wanna go to sleep. Just need to connect the LEDs now, and the manual is, for once, very helpful with its inatructions

>>61383561
>this many typos
Yeah imma fuck off to sleep now. thanks again for the patience anon. I'll let you know if I die burning my house down

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>>61383561
>>61383569
good luck. Try not to die in a housefire.

>>61383524
That the variety of computer speakers is as big as the sky is wide, and that you should figure out how much you want to spend on speakers, then look at stuff in that price range, pick a few that look cool and have decent revies, then google "speakers by hitachifuckamunk general problems" and see what comes up.

http://thermalbench.com/2016/07/12/corsair-ml120-pro-120-mm-fan/3/

STOP

BUYING

POO

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If I am on Win7, is there any point in buying a DX12 GPU?

Should I use the asus 0 db fan curve or set my own fan curve?

>>61383826
Buy a Win10 key for $5 anon

There's a brand called AOC that makes monitors, is it reliable?
Their prices are within my budget (100-110 USD max) for 22in 1080p 60Hz HDMI.

>>61384079
I've heard nothing but good things from them. They're nothing amazing but they're solid

>>61384094
The model I saw looks easy to clean, the design is very square-like, but I haven't found any video reviews, just one from a Polish kid that doesn't really show much.

>>61383826
>is there any point in buying a DX12 GPU ever?
No

>>61375995
whats a good gpu to pair with g4400(i got for free)?

yes i would be gaming?

>>61384253
>2 cores 2 threads
What games do you expect to play exactly with this?

>>61384272
mostly total war series with mods and some high end titles in steam.

>>61384248
There is if you use AMD GPUs, maybe NVIDIA will show some gains some day.

>>61384253
The only thing you can probably find in stock right now is a 1050 Ti

Does anyone know if the tempered glass side panel from the Corsair 460x will fit a 400q?