/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Shit i want to have one linux monitor and one windows monitor so bad, but i just can't justify buying a new pc just for the uefi support when this one handles all the programming i do and the one game i play perfectly fine plus 80% of things i do require windows anyway..
fuck fuck FUCK

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>had server turned off for a while since router shit itself
>turn server back on today
>fire up Plex CT
>log into Plex server via local IP
>logged in, get webGUI and everything
>"Can't find server"
>mfw

>>61375511
I can't seem to be able to compile my kernel on gentoo, it says "error reading elf file init/do_mounts.o" (Running 64bit gentoo)

>>61375511
Why do websites need JavaScript to login to websites and for transactions? Why can't I do all that using lynx?

What's the point of Linux when it can't even do basic things like displaying thumbnails when uploading?

Anyone else thought about going back to an older Ubuntu version because they werked and werked fine and are still mostly secure? I'm not sure but I think I will try 12.04 or maybe 14.04.

It's not even about systemd before you start that shit, it's just that they got the job done and stayed out of the way. Low resource hit too.

>>61376391
Allocating the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
>>61376232
Linux*
>>61375616
GNU/Linux*

>>61376535
gentoo*

>>61376523
12.04 is end of life.

>>61376523
for server or desktop?
anyway, the lts (16.04) does still werk and is what you should go to if you want mostly secure. or go to any other distro that has a company behind it.

>>61376562
>go to any other distro that has a company behind it
the fuck is wrong with you

>>61376562
M-m-m-multishill!

Neat, windows 10 now natively supports Ubuntu, good bye shitty virtualbox and massive overhead, time to run that cunt on bare metal inside windows.
too bad it's currently only available in the new win 10 beta release

>>61376780
Enjoy your botnet.

>>61376780
Enjoy your botnet.

>>61376817
>>61376819
Thanks, i will indeed enjoy me perfectly stable, lag free and bug free linux experience on windows, because god knows that neckbeards can't give me any of those when running solely linux on bare metal. Microsoft actually had to step in and fix it for them. How embarrassing.

>>61376780
Enjoy your botner.

>>61376849
Enjoy your botnet.

>>61376780
>>61376849
Enjoy your botnet.

>>61376849
No you woun't. Ubuntu on Windows contains zero Linux.

>>61376849
>>61376780
sup nsa

>>61376874
the windows linux bash with all linux functionality including mounting and ssh and shit would disagree with you

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>>61376893

>>61376523
Was 12.04 on gnome 2 or was that after the switch to unity?
because ubuntu mate is pretty much the same as when it was gnome 2.
As for resources, systemd uses less resources than the old init and upstart, so I don't know what you will gain by that.
The kernel is pretty stable and there has not been any "recent" changes that would mean it was faster 5 years ago, but it is certainly less secure.
There is a huge difference between windows and gnu/linux in this regard, with free software, you can pick the projects that you agree with rather than the version you least disagree with.
The LTS versions of ubuntu is recommended because you can keep them a for two years + some time to upgrade to the next.
The applications mostly only get security updates and the rest is pretty stable.
I just recently upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04 because I didn't have time to upgrade.
But installing 14.04 today would be pretty dumb as 16.04 is out.

>>61376232
Have you tried ding a clean build?

>>61376523
Would probably be better to switch to a distro or DE that suits you better than to switch to something with unpatched security holes.

>>61377148
>Have you tried ding a clean build?
you mean doing make clean first then make? yeah, I've tried rebuilding @system

>>61377171
>yeah, I've tried rebuilding @system
I've EVEN tried*

So I tried KDE Neon, fucked around for a day or so. First I got tearing. I had to try to fix that shit using an AMD GPU. But then PC went to sleep and on wake up I got black screens. But then I disabled that shit, and at some point I left my monitor to turn off automatically thinking that at least that wouldn't fuck up. Nevermind, when I was back window decorations were showing artifacts and I had to restart the session. And then I had to restart my PC and my main monitor wouldn't turn on.

So I gave up on that shit.

And then I tried openSUSE tumbleweed and had none of these fucking problems. Not a single one. This has to be the GPU drivers or some shit like that.

>>61376586
nothing, i'm using arch but make no qualms about other distros being better for the task that anon asked for.

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>>61376893
Roses are red, violets are blue
Linux is just, a kernel for GNU

>>61377338
dope, I'm on arch too btw

Best distro to get shit done? I don't care about ricing and stuff

>>61377525
Ubongo

>>61377525
debian
rip in piss ian

>>61377525
Devuan

>>61377525
Ubuntu or Debian. Would say Ubuntu if you have hardware issues.

>>61377525
Source Mage GNU/Linux

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>>61377525
arch linux

/faglet/

>>61377586
This, or Void

Posting this on sqt but I didn't get an answer. If anyone here could help, I'd appreciate it.

I'm working on installing Arch for the first time and I've gone through most of it without any problems, but I can't get grub to install for whatever reason.

Right now i'm running 'grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot --bootloader-id=boot' and i'm getting an error that says 'grub-install: error: /boot doesn't look like an EFI partition'.

When I run 'lsblk -f' it says it is an EFI partition. Next I tried googling it where everyone said that my boot partition wasn't fat32, when I run 'parted /dev/sda print', though, it says that it's file system is fat32.

Any ideas before I blow my brains out? Thanks

>>61378718
*Posted, no posting

Ok, not strictly gnu/linux related, but i firgured I'd get better answers here than at /sqt/. What do the cool boys use to browse with vim keybindings nowadays?

>go to install pentadactyl
>not supported on FF54
>go to install vimperator
>85% of the addon's page is in unrenderable utf characters, has like 150 users, don't want to get a virus
>see VimFX
>"We wanted to preserve the original experience as much as possible, as the likes of pentadactyl changed the browser too much for our tastes. However, we saw the vimium addon for chrome and thought that was exactly what we needed, so we recreated it for firefox." (not sic)
>they literally took the gimped chrome addon, which was only that way because chrome's extension support is shit, and decided it would be fantastic to have that on firefox for some reason
>see vimium
>it's literally a port of the vimium mentioned above (for no purpose whatsoever since vimfx exists)
>remember qutebrowser
>remember no extensions

What do
Can I get qutebrowser to have a setup somewhat equivalent to umatrix + ublock + smart https + canvas defender + a bunch of tweaks that significantly reduce my fingerprint?

>>61378718
Your efi partition shouldn't be mounted at /boot. That still be your boot directory with grub configs and stuff and passed to the --boot-directory argument. The partiton with efi firmware on it should be at /boot/efi or some shit.

>>61378772
>Can I get qutebrowser to have a setup somewhat equivalent to umatrix + ublock + smart https + canvas defender + a bunch of tweaks that significantly reduce my fingerprint?
Not at the moment. That stuff, and the framework to enable it, is still on the todo list.

I just installed Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 yesterday, and I have the issue of the screen being rotated 90 degrees to the right every time the system starts. I can set the orientation to normal with xrandr after login, but on the next reboot it will be rotated sideways. How can I fix this?

>>61378900
If i mount it to anything, but /boot I get the error: "grub-install:error : failed to get canonical path of '/boot/efi'"

>>61378900
>>61379766
Never mind, I created /boot/EFI instead of /boot/efi

Can't thank you enough, man

>>61379453
by rotating the monitor itself the right way.
next

If I wanted to go into GNU/Linux server administration and wanted certification, do I need certs like network+ or server+?

Hello,

What is the best command for updating a directory by using another directory as a reference? Would it be "cp -u * " ?

I had a boot issue involving GRUB loader. My Debian partition is on a separate drive from my Windows partition and GRUB wouldn't read Dev/sda at all. How do I ensure GRUB will take note of Windows when I run a fresh install for Debian? I don't recall having the option to select other available drives for GRUB loader.

>>61380605
os-prober

I have a large amount of music stored as .flac files. Is there a script I can use on GNU/Linux to create a copy of all of them, and then compress those copies to opus at a good bitrate (assuming it's the best lossy compression to use now?). Is there a way to do this without having to retag everything, and while keeping the original flacs?

>>61376391
>can't even do basic things like displaying thumbnails when uploading?
Works on my machine, I use xfce and cinnamon.

>>61376391
GNU Networked Object Model Environment doesn't have this problem.

>>61376780
>good bye shitty virtualbox
You realize that acts as a sandbox, right?
>time to run that cunt on bare metal inside windows.
>bare metal inside windows
>bare metal
Like Xen? or KVM/Qemu? What about GPU acceleration?

>>61377378
>Roses are red, violets are blue
>Linux is just, a kernel for GNU
We gotta make this a copypasta

>>61376780
Enjoy your botnet.

>>61380788
Stop saying that, I use Windows 10 and I have nothing to hide. I pirate music and watch gay porn but that's the only thing I'm not proud of, so all this botnet fear-mongering is retarded. Fuck off or change your response.

How is Linux from Scratch? I've never used Linux before but LFS looks fun to play around with.

>>61380855
I hope you have good computer skills, if it's your first linux experience. It's essentially following an instruction booklet, so if you aren't stupid you won't have too much trouble. Just download the book and start figuring it out.
Also, I wouldn't recommend the systemd version (not because I hate systemd or anything, but because it's a little harder to set up and more likely to break).
The only real point of building LFS is the experience of installing it and gaining a little more knowlege about how the system works. Once you're done setting it up, the finished system isn't really usable for a desktop, and you should just use a proper distro instead.

>>61380563
you will want to do it recursively and with permissions copied too.

>>61380605
This >>61380624
Sometimes it doesn't pick up windows on first install but once logged in run `sudo update-grub` and it should find it.

>>61381001
Does LFS give you problems if you install it in a VM?

>>61381036
Okay. Thanks for replying man.

Is it true curl can be used as a web browser?

>>61380625
I use https://github.com/dopstar/ftransc
but there are probably more. Also I go to mp3 but I assume it supports opus too.

Although I wonder why you want things in opus, IFAIK that is only better for really low betrate audio like speech only, not music.

>>61381001
Thanks! I'll definitely give it a try to learn more about Linux.

Will probably just install gentoo or go full freedom once I'm done with it.

>>61381001
>>61381084
GNU/Linux*

I may need some help.
I bought a Raspberry Pi, and i decided that I'd host a SSH server on it. It'd be nice if I could use it remotely from my phone or something like that. I installed Arch onto the Pi, and configured sshd properly. It's running and listening to port 22, and currently allows password auth because I just wanna get it to work before I start messing with the keys. And surely I can access it from my home network, but my router is giving me some trouble. It's a Huawei B593s-22, and theres lots of guides for port forwarding available. I forwarded port 22 properly, but when I try to connect to my server, it refuses the connection. pls halp

PS, When connecting to a SSH server, you're supposed to connect to the external IP, right? The one the Pi got from dhcp, or the static one I manually set up. I've tried both of those, and I just wanted to make sure that I'm not trying to connect to a wrong address.

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Why do people use Fedora?

>>61381730
Because they're red hat employees

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>>61381730
cuz noobuntu is for noobs

>>61381730
The imagination of having a job and getting shit done.

>>61381730
serious distro is serious

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What are some cute terminal commands?

>>61382043

cheat(){ curl "cheat.sh/$1"; }

Best Linux laptop? Thinking of getting a System76 lemur.

>>61382246
install gentoo

>>61382246
Firefox

>>61382246
system76 has bad build quality
get a thinkpad (preferably t420 or older, new ones have worse build quality), or a Dell XPS 13 or 15.

>>61382246
or get something with an i7 for cheaper https://www.amazon.com/Acer-E5-575G-57D4-15-6-Inches-Notebook-i5-7200U/dp/B01LD4MGR6/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1500094230&sr=1-6&refinements=p_4%3AAcer&th=1

>>61382246
Just get a Windows laptop and install Linux on it.

>>61382119
That does nothing.

>>61382443
your linux is broken

>>61382443
Type "cheat tar".

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>>61382043
netcat: the TCP/IP swiss army knife

Just recently I found a new neat usage for it: sucklessly controlling mpd.

It's pretty easy (assuming openbsd-netcat):

nc localhost 6600

This connects to mpd and you get a promot where you can enter command like play, stop, etc. For a list of commands, type "commands".

It's also possible to send direct commands to mpd like this:

echo play | nc localhost 6600

Happy netcating.

how do you defend yourself against arch hackers?

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theoretical, everyone loves 'what ifs' questions:

a country of 10 million people with an acceptable amount of natural resources, good agricultural production, and two cities above a million people suddenly gets taken over by a GNU/Linux friendly government for a 5 years mandate with the possibility of any number of reelections, and wants to get it's people off of digital proprietary software, including the government. the government wants to be able to protect it's own systems while giving its citizens the upmost personal privacy, but knows that the average computer users prefers convenience

how would said government go about achieving its goals?

Why do I have to disable DNSSEC on any distro running systemd-resolved to get DNS resolution working? How does shit like this make it to release?

>>61383146
>date +%Y
>using systemd

>>61382953
with hardened gentoo

>>61383243
hardened meme

I'm trying to capture audio with ffmpeg but when I run the command

ffmpeg -f pulse -i default output.wav

the file doesn't produce any sound. anyone have experience with this?

>>61382119
Oh you were trying to download a cheat sheet

noob having some trouble with i3 ricing
when i launch xterm with mod+enter, it doesnt obey xresources
why is this, and how do i fix it

>>61383378
try

ffmpeg -f alsa -i default output.wav

>>61383707
tried that but no good
looking here https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Capture/ALSA it wants me to use modprobe which I'm not sure what that does

>>61383728
modprobe loads a kernel module, in this case the aloop module which loops back the output of alsa to a virtual input device from which you can record the sound with ease.

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Install Source Mage GNU/Linux

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>>61375511
After a fresh install and configuration of XFCE I am stuck with a thin pink / purple / red line on the left side of my second monitor.

<When I scrot I get this

Where did I go wrong?

>>61384359
To clarify, all of that pixely shit on the sides of the bottom monitor should not be there.

>>61384359
looks pretty cool tbqh

>>61384359
A E S T H E T I C
why are you complaining?

>>61384398
It would look cool if I could even see the pixel stuff.

In reality it is all off my screen except for one small strip of it on the left. I only see the wallpaper part

>>61384359

I don't see it. It's a monitor hardware problem.

>>61384442
I guess I'm not explaining well enough.

On the bottom half of the image, where the pink shit and the wallpaper meet there is a one pixel wide strip that is peeking onto the monitor.

My bottom monitor is 1440x900, while my top is 1920x1080.

I only see the rest of the pixel shit when I take a screenshot.

>>61384359
>steam
>Spotify
>discord
Why are you using all this proprietary software anon? You're allowing the developers of proprietary software to oppress you.

How would I get my monitor to wake up when a python script prints to console? This is on Debian, with no desktop environment, just the console interface. It goes to sleep after like 10 min which is fine, but I want my screen to turn on when my python script calls a print statement

>>61384507

It's not there. Monitor issue. Circle it if you insist it's there.

>>61384514
The few friends I have use these applications.

My choices are to join the botnet or be alone.

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>>61384559
Here, I have hastily cropped it to what I am seeing on my monitor.

The only difference is the bar on the left is one pixel wide.

>>61384560
If your friends leave you alone when you don't join the botnet, they'e not your friends.

>>61384560
that's indeed a problem
time to kill stop this insanity

>>61384528

Try executing

setterm --blank poke

before the print statement if it's blanking. From what I've seen there's also a proper poweroff for the screen (like with DPMS in X), but I don't know how to turn that on again. Look at the setterm manpage and DPMS in X in general.

>>61384558

He said he isn't using X.

>>61384624
He deleted the post.

>>61384558
Ah bummer, so there is no way to just have the screen wake up when anything is printed to console w/o using an xscreensaver command? I don't really want to go through my python
script and add that in after every single print command

>>61384648

>every single print command
That's when you create a function and wrap your print in it.

why do people install DEs on arch?

>>61384877

Because you're a retard who has no real knowledge but the memes and myths you pick up here.
Why wouldn't they? It's a distribution like any other, idiot.

How do I make a 280x not perform like an iGPU on linux?

I tried both radeonsi and amdgpu drivers, I tried enabling DRI3 (it wouldn't start X so I had to change it back) and I really don't know what to do here.

>>61384560
just ignore 'em m8

>>61384903
Friendly thread.

>>61384877
because people are free to do so

>>61384903
so why installing a lightweight distro in the first place when youre going to bloat it up anyway?

>>61384904
install gentoo

>>61384930

Arch isn't a "lightweight" distro. Any distribution can be "lightweight". Every distribution has a minimal (internet) installer.
Of course you don't know that, because you're a meme idiot.

>>61384944
Friendly thread.

>>61384944
No arch is light. Try to have the same memory usage with other distro.

>>61384944
it says right on the website "simple and lightweight" you idiot

>>61384930
>she fell for the meme

>>61384951
>Community memes don't define the distribution, technical choices by the
>developers do. It's clearly not based on what you say it is, and *never*
>has been. It has always used significantly more disk space and a
>measurable amount of additional memory than Debian and especially Gentoo
>as a consequence of keeping things simple (again, from a development
>perspective).
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

>>61384980
>significantly more disk space and a
>>measurable amount of additional memory than Debian
So many lies. It reminds me of chrome shills who try to pretend that chrome was using less RAM than ff (it was never true).

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>>61384980
arch is stupid

>>61384989
>the arch team is lying
>i know more about arch than the arch team

>>61384989
easy enough to test the arch install v. a debian netinstall on a vm.

>>61385007
Yes, and each time we did, the debian shill disappear as soon as I post the arch usage. Strange... And I don't even try a minimal arch, just a standard arch with all the base group installed.

>>61384967

The packages are the same amount of "lightweight" as on any other distribution. Only a few compile time options might differ, but they're still the same amount of "lightweight" and the difference is negligible.

You are the idiot who is falling for buzzwords.

>>61384951

You can, you idiot, because the software is still the same, you utter retard.
Your RAM usage is also a joke. RAM usage doesn't define snappines, CPU usage does. You want it to use more RAM so it caches all the things it might use so it's faster. You must be one of those idiots who want to see

>10MB / 32000MB used

thinking that makes their computers fast.

>>61385050
Arch packages tend to include all headers, while those are split into -dev packages on other distros.

>>61385064
Here we are, the debian shill start to spit nonsense because the truth hurt.

>>61385071

That waste of hard drive space is negligible if your computer is capable to run the distribution normally.

>>61385081

>debian shill
I use Arch, you idiot. There goes your only argument.
Kill yourself.

>>61385050
Ackthually, Arch packages are pretty large compared to other distros where packages are splitted and you just get the binary.

>>61385098

See >>61385095.
No one talks about package size when they say "lightweight". Everyone means some retarded RAM usage benchmark that they don't even know what it is.

>>61385095
>I use Arch, you idiot.
So why are you arguing?

Basic arch is fucking more lightweight than minimal debian.

>>61385107
nice meme

>>61385107

It isn't, retard. Read any other post I made.
It's the same software, retard. You're making the retarded claim, so you prove it, retard.

bet this fag has flame decals on his machine to make arch all the faster.

>>61385095
>That waste of hard drive space is negligible
Sure it is but it still makes Arch packages bigger than they'd need to be. It's not minimal and it's done so by distro philosophy.
The compile options and with that needed dependecnies aren't minimal either.
Again, this is by distro-philosophy.

>>61385145
>minimal
Only RAM usage matters.

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>lul my benis is larger than yours
>stfu mine is significant larger
>wrong, just measured mine, its larger
>looks like you need to learn to measure idiot
>mine is better, only thickness matters

>>61385150
More dependencies -> more libs in RAM

>>61385165
The facts are:
when it's about CPU and RAM usage (I forgot it's not just RAM, it's CPU and RAM)
basic arch (not the minimal one) is more minimal that a lot of distrib (and especially debian).

Here you're just spitting non sense, like always when people try do deny facts.

how minimal can a minimal distro be?

>>61385178
what did xe mean by this?

>>61385192
>stripped down kernel
>busybox+a few required files, nothing more

few megabytes at most

>>61385192
'bout three fiddy.

>>61385178
Please read: >>61384980

>>61385214
bla bla bla
EVen with that "non minimal" phyliosophy, arch has one of the lowest RAM and CPU usage.

>>61385192
TinyCore is about 15mb.

>>61385178

>basic arch (not the minimal one) is more minimal that a lot of distrib (and especially debian).
Post data, retard.

>>61385178
If you want a minimal system you have no choice but to compile everything yourself with only those dependencies you really need.
None of the big binary distros will give you that since they have very different goals from being minimal.
Trying to be minimal on anything but an embedded device is wasted effort anyway.

good thread

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>>61385225
Post data of minimal debian. I wanna laugh about your 40M of used data.

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What do you prefer?
Sway, i3 or dwm and xorg or wayland?

>>61385242
bspwm

>>61385233
We're comparing arch to existing distro, not to a non existing distro.

Here you're just saying that arch is not minimal compared to your non existing distro.
Of course, maybe there is gentoo, but I never say that arch is more or less minimal than gentoo. I just compare arch to the bloated debian.

>>61385258
>I just compare arch to the bloated debian.
you're full of shit man, even ubuntu is less bloated when a full arch install, do you even know how large arch packages are compared to debs?

>>61385295
Please show me RAM usage and CPU usage of minimal debian. Do it, I wanna laugh. Because here I just see repeated bullshits.

Quick question, what's the best distro?

>>61385236

That's not how it works, you retard. You are supposed to post the identical setup on both to support your claim.
But I didn't expect from a g meme poster to know otherwise. How can you live like this? How can you deny your retardation? Multiple people have told you how retarded you are, yet it still hasn't gotten through to you. That's the irony of being retarded, you're too stupid to realize your own retardation.

>>61385334
I just do
pacstrap /mnt
Which install group base, and after that i pacman grub and set up grub.

It's thet typical standard arch.

But I see that as soon as I provide evidence people start to spit nonsense.

It's always the same, people does not support the truth about bloated debian.

>>61385332
Source Mage

>>61385346

>i am only pretending to be retarded

>>61385354
Here we are, no more arguments. Just insults.

>>61385346
pls stop trolling

>>61385362
see >>61385361

arch: 1
debian: 0

>>61385422
>1
bloat

>reddit terminal client
>twitter terminal client
>hackernews terminal client
>no 4chan terminal client
why

>>61385457

Google human input verification aka CAPTCHA.

>>61385566
Please avoid using the term “google” as a verb, meaning to search for something on the internet. “Google” is just the name of one particular search engine among others. We suggest to use the term “search the web” or (in some contexts) just “search”. Try to use a search engine that respects your privacy.

>>61385566
What's the problem?

>>61385597

Are you an idiot?

>>61385622

How are you going to display Google's CAPTCHA in a terminal emulator?

>>61385631
>I have never used a terminal

>>61385631
You can display pictures in the terminal.

>>61385457
You didn't make one you lazy bastard

>>61385641
>>61385661

It's not about displaying just an image.
How are you going to have JavaScript (which I assume is what it uses) in your terminal emulator and make it call Google's CAPTCHA? Maybe there is an API or something else to use Google's CAPTCHA in a different form, so if there is, what is it? Do you want to launch a web browser for every post you make?

>>61385679
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/ReCAPTCHA

>>61385737

And? Where is a solution in that? How would you display and solve it inside a terminal emulator only?

Linux bois, there's a really weird problem I'm facing right now regarding the internet speed on my linux machine. I've been doing a few tests with my main linux machine and a chroot'd one (different device), they are both in the same room side by side, connected to the same wifi, configured with static IPs. These are the results:

speedtest-cli test - 
     Main:   1.71Mbits/s down, 1.11Mbits/s up
     Chroot: 16.83Mbits/s down, 3.01 Mbits/s up

iperf test, chroot as the server:
    10.0 MBytes transfer, 8.36 Mbits/s Bandwidth

What I see as weird, is that with Main I get 1Mbits/s of INTERNET speed instead of filling up those 8Mbits of WLAN bandwidth I get with iperf. What could be causing this? it was at fine a few hours ago, I tried changing the IP of main, rebooting, and doing the same tests but nothing changes.

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>>61385772
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>61385772
Why does your chroot get twice your bandwidth?

How viable is LFS as a daily driver?

Is it possible to flash GPU firmware over loonix?

>>61383096
Literally installing gentoo

>>61385901
it is a mystery

Alpine or Mutt?

>want something cleaner and lighter for my laptop that I know doesn't spy on me
>dual boot xubuntu
>comfy as fuck
>haven't booted into Windows in 3 weeks

Literally every laptop should be on Linux. What excuse is there to run bloated shitware Windows on a laptop, that 99% of people are going to use for browsing the web/emails/Netflix/chatting? There isn't any excuse.

If I didn't want to go through the hassle of transferring my files back and forth I'd just format and go balls deep with a single OS system.

Even if I want to use my printer, it just works, I plug it into USB, and then with Simple Scan I'm scanning instantly, printing instantly, it all.. just works! I thought Linux was for hackers?

What's the best program for screen recording? I use simplescreenrecorder right now but it's kinda laggy and slow on my old CPU but at the same time it doesn't feel like my CPU should be the problem because screen recording is smooth on my phone even though the CPU is much weaker.

>>61386104
It's nice when that happens but a lot of people have problems.
With getting Linux working with their hardware I mean, not mental problems.

>>61386151

This with slop and ffmpeg.

#!/bin/bash

DIM=$(slop -f "%x %y %w %h")
X=$(echo $DIM | awk '{print $1}')
Y=$(echo $DIM | awk '{print $2}')
W=$(echo $DIM | awk '{print $3}')
H=$(echo $DIM | awk '{print $4}')

ffmpeg -framerate 30 -video_size "${W}x${H}" \
  -f x11grab -i "${DISPLAY}+${X},${Y}" -vcodec libx264 -crf 0 -preset ultrafast \
  output.mkv

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just bought this tablet, how do i make it as freedom and privacy respecting as possible?

What is your favorite non-GNU Linux? I.e., a distro that uses Busybox and some alternative libc like musl.

>>61385947
I don't see any reason -besides undocumented hardware that can be flashed only by a DOS/Windows only proprietary program- why you couldn't.

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>>61386412
colibri os

>>61386631
Not Linux.

>>61386649
>favorite non-GNU Linux
>Not Linux.
>colibri os
yeap

Have you tried new BFQ I/O in 4.12? It says it should be good for interactive applications. Currently, my desktop becomes unresponsive when I copy big file on my SSD.

>>61387427
Use deadline on ssd.

>>61385242
definitely dwm.
i3 trees are too complex imho, on dwm you're concerned only with mod+hjkl (hl for enlarging/shrinking master window, jk for moving between the list) mod+di (decrease and increase number of master windows) and mod+return for putting selected window into master.

By default, tumbleweed creates a BTRFS system partition and a ZFS home partition.

Are these good on some SSD or should I go with traditional ext4 partitions?

stallman has a good vision but lacks any kind of practical thinking whatsoever

>we need a fully open source OS
>so no, your debian GPL compatible only install is not open source because there is a small binary blob, if you want to use open source you need to use ``insert distro nobody has ever heard of here''

come on

>>61387559
XFS*

>>61387576
I have no clue why people are riled up about it.
FSF rules for "free distro" are clear and simple. No proprietary software.
Why the fuck is it so hard to accept?

>>61387607
And what is more hypocritical?
Those people in those os's enable a third party repo and use the software ANYWAY.
Its just an abstraction layer

>>61387607
It's not hard to accept, it's just counterproductive if you actually want free software to succeed.

Ideals are nice, but 1000 debian installs are better than 1000 windows installs. The FSF makes a black and white distinction; if you are using something as proprietary as debian, might as well buy a macbook.

Which is retarded.

>>61387630
>The FSF makes a black and white distinction
No. You got them wrong.

>>61387630
>The FSF makes a black and white distinction
If you actually bothered to read the page instead of trying to make an uneducated opinion for god knows what reason you'd know that this isn't false.

>And what is more hypocritical?
Probably calling distributions with proprietary software "free".

>>61387576
If we're talking about stallman I feel I have to point out that you probably meant free, not open source. According to stallman open source is not enough.

Personally I find freedom 0 and freedom 1 enough. The problem with proprietary software is the walled garden approach; if you had to pay to get access to the software, and couldn't redistribute it once you had it, but gained access to the source code and freedom to do whatever you wanted to it and run it in any way you wanted (provided you didn't distribute it to anyone else obviously) I would have absolutely no problems with proprietary software.

>>61387650
>this isn't false.
is*.
fuck

>>61387642
>No
>>61387650
>If you actually bothered

I have read the page a while ago and got that impression. After your posts, I read it again. Please point me to anything that doesn't imply Black and White.

>>61387727
https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.en.html#Debian

Guys let's include Ubuntu while we're on the topic of preferring convenience over freedom.

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Newfag here.

Can someone tell me how I activate these points and my activities in GNOME shell? See red marked.

>>61387836
I don't need help anymore. Found it.

>>61387756
>https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.en.html#Debian
Have you actually read that paragraph? It just lists objective criteria for the purpose of excluding debian from the ``free software'' pile and doesn't make any positive subjective judgment.

>>61387937
>doesn't make any positive subjective judgment.
It acknowledges the existence of Debian's social contract and how Debian follows said contract without exceptions.

However because of wiki entries, debian.org/packages site and most notably
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

Debian is NOT a free distribution according to the FSF.

>>61385772
interestingly, I used my chroot'd device as tether via usb, and now I have access to the whole bandwidth. Should I assume that wireless card is dying? or, maybe the antenna?
This is weird, I can't fathom what the fuck is going on

so this is the power of wayland...
https://youtu.be/kzLnuU05SYo

>>61376523
16.04 made me switch to Debian. Life is better now.
>>61376780
Enjoy your botnet
>>61376849
Lagfree, kek
>>61379453
Xorg.conf
>>61381705
Don't think it will matter.

Try ssh with it directly plugged in to your PC to see if the router or the pi is the problem
>>61382246
Thinkpad with Intel graphics for ease of installation.

X60s can be software flashed if ur a freetard
>>61384359
Test with another PC

>>61381705
using NAT you will have to use your router's WAN address
otherwise either dhcp or static, doesn't matter if you for some reason have both
if you had to do port forwarding though it's definitely nat
also make sure you open for it in the firewall

>>61382363
why would anybody get this abomination of cheap plastic and shitty quality?

>>61388496
um what? Acer is fine. Had a chromebook for 3 years and works fine.

>>61382119
this gay page has no https

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when?

NET here (not in employment or training). My computer illiterate family gave me the go ahead to use our home desktop as a server. I've set up dual boot. Is there any way I can make it so if they wake the computer while the server is running, they'll get a message like this?
>Hi, all,
>The computer is currently booted into my server.
>To access Windows:
>* Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart.
>* At the Safe Mode-esque black and white screen, use the arrow keys to select "Windows" and press Enter.
>* Please remember to restart again when you're done, so that my server will go back up.
>Love,
>Jaime :)

>>61388800
desktop background

>>61388800
Yeah, it's called motd.

>>61388800
Use a screen locking program. Most of them allow you to set a background. If you already have a login manager that might suffice.
Another really good alternative is "i3lock" since it's very lightweight. Just create an image that has your message on it and tell i3lock to use that.

Then you just gotta make sure your screen locker is running before sleep. If it isn't already you can definitely set it up.
(I'd tell you how, but I've only done it with OpenRC and I'm guessing you're using systemd. It should still be possible just look it up)

>was told Linux respected my privacy
>it still stores information like thumbnails ON MY HARDDRIVE without informing me

nice respect

>>61386412
Alpine

Does a display manager also handle locking the screen, or is it just for logging in? If the latter, what do you guys use for locking?

I have a really ghetto setup with xsecurelock script, but it doesn't autimatically run when I close the laptop lid. That's not necessarily a problem - I'm willing to take the security tradeof in exchange for being able to close + turn off the screen, without having to re-enter my password later, when only people I trust are around - but I'm sure there's a better way to do it than a hand-crafted shitty script hack.

Is there a reason to use wicked over networkmanager in opensuse?

I just installed this but wicked is being pretty much a dick and taking a huge chunk of that boot time. 10 extra seconds on an SSD are not pleasant.

>>61389499
netctl

Is there any good DE independent screenlocker with mpd/mpris controls on the lockscreen?

>>61389462
I think they might not really lock the screen.

You can test it by keeping a user logged in then going to your login manager and pressing Ctrl+Alt+F7 (or F8, F9, etc.)
It'll probably bring you back to the users session without needing a password.

If that's the case then yeah you'll need an actual screen locker.
"i3lock" is a really good one.

>>61389995
write one yourself

>>61389499
NetworkManager is cancer

>>61389522
Only on Arch

>>61390910
Sure, what else would you suggest though, I mean these are shit boot times I tell you

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Can someone please help me? I am trying to remove this virtual desktop pager widget from my panel on KDE Plasma.

However, when I right-click on it, my only options are to remove virtual desktops. I don't want to do that, I just want to remove this widget that's displaying my virtual desktops.

I still want to be able to navigate them with keyboard shortcuts, but I don't want this ugly widget.

Is Ubuntu MATE botnet?

>>61391248
never mind, solved it.

>>61389499
wicd has been bit rotting for a long time. I use NetworkManager on laptops nowadays even if my desktops and servers are just static.

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Should I use Debian or Fedora?

>>61391363
Arch

>>61391363
debian stable, always debian stable

>>61391371
I'm using Arch btw

i was installing Gentoo and the power blinked and now i can't chroot into my system again and i need one reason not to nuke my hard drive and use windows xp gold edition for the rest of my life

>>61391414
>living in an area with power outages and NOT having a fucking UPS.

>>61391462
>I've lived here for 3 years without a problem
>it only blinked in my office
god hates me, what do?

>>61386402
grab with both hands, and throw it out the window

>>61391496
probably reinstall or stop falling for meme distributions

>>61391519
I like gentoo I'm just trying to see if it's possible to get to this hard drive some how or if i have to start over from the beginning

I'm getting a new motherboard with a different chipset for my haswell processor (H81 to Z97)

Do loonix distros have problems with this enough that it would be needed to reinstall the entire system?

>>61391819
Not really

>>61380855
Don't touch my computer.

>>61380855
It's literally just a set of tools to make your own Linux distritubution. If you just wished you could very easily make Debian, Ubuntu Fedora or whatever using LFS. It's not a distribution in itself

>>61386317

read -r x y w h <<< $(slop -f "%x %y %w %h")

>>61392517
GNU/Linux*

>>61392571
>GNU/Linux*
wrong. Noone forces you to use glibc, gnucoreutils and GNU components on LFS

>>61392685
It's in the instructions. Did you even read it?

What is crmf,lib? and what package contains it?

>>61392571

No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.

Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.
One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?

(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any

>>61392966
>>>/r/eddit

Linux is fucking stagnant these days.

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>>61393338
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8

>>61393338
It's more like a beach at slack tide with a wicked undertow. Things are quiet at the visible layer, but big changes are happening underneath. Wayland+Flatpak+fractional hidpi scaling is going to make Linux a lot better when it hits the slower distros like Debian and CentOS.

How the fuck do i start xorg after login.

>>61393430
I meant how i start xorg automatically after login.

>>61393338
Ssh, lennart might hear you!

>>61393400
Wayland yeah okay (even then it's merely an evolution of existing tech, not really a huge leap forward). The other two are Literally Fucking Nothing: The Features.

>>61393464
Flatpak is sandboxing plus cross distro (even cross libc!) binaries. It's a much bigger deal than most people seem to think.

Hi guys, so.
I probably hate windows as much as you and am using arch for over a year now, but recently I got hooked into some gaymus and now wanna dual boot. I know I can make a partition n clean it to install windows into it but I probably know no more than that, what are the next steps?

What do people use for font rendering nowadays?

im having issues with accessing a ZFS dataset with Linux

im unable to write to the dataset "permission denied"

heres how i have it all setup

pool name: pool1
location:/mnt/pool/
dataset name: data1
location:/mnt/pool/data

the dataset is owned by
owner:root
group:storage
write permissions are

owner:write/read
group:write/read
others:write/read (originally just read but i got frustrated and i still cant write even with others set)

next i setup a user
name: henry
group: storage
shell: scp

ACL inherit: passthrough
ACL mode: passthrough

i ssh into the /mnt/pool/data/ and i get permission denied when i try to create a folder

yet i am able to write to /mnt/pool/ just fine and even move files

it has to be a permission issue..
did i setup the group/user incorrectly?

maybe its the ACL settings?
im used to linux posix permissions and i cant figure out what is wrong

>>61393491
We already have sandboxes,infact we have multiple options for sandboxing

>>61379453
convert your xrandr commands into a bash script, and there should be some way in GNOME settings to execute said script every startup, well there is in KDE anyway

>>61393456
.bashrc

>>61393540
Follow arch wiki on dual booting

>>61393627
no. .bash_profile, but not .bashrc

>>61376391
>What's the point of Linux
first, allow me to interject... it's actually GNU/Linux
secondly, if you need to have FREEDOM explained to you, you are probably already a lost cause

>>61393646
bash_profile calls in .bashrc ....

Put "exec <yourde/wm>" at the end and boom,login and its executed

>>61393645
tried to mate but if I'm not mistaken it only illustrates the scenario where you install win then linux

>>61393646
>>61393627
That's the thing i don't use bash.

>>61380817
Enjoy your botnet.

>>61393679
>bash_profile calls in .bashrc ....
Yes I know. And that's one of the reason why you shouldn't put init code in .bashrc but in .bash_profile.

>>61393666
If I may interject, the Linux from kerne.org is not free software. It not only recommends nonfree software, but also includes it (binary blobs). Linux aims for practical benefits, freedom may be a side effect.

>>61393690
So install windows
boot a liveusb
chroot your linux
run os prober
fix your grub.cfg


>>61393691
Are you using faggy zsh? Put it in .zshrc

>>61393705
You're wrong

Redpill me on docker. What does it do and how is it useful? I'm stupid so please tell me like I'm 5 years old.

>>61393731
>You're wrong
No I'm not.

>>61393731
I don't zsh. I use mksh.

>>61375511
Do linux friends use standup desks?

>>61393740
((((((((((((THE JEWS)))))))))))))))

>>61393740
>what does it do
chroot
>how useful is it
Not at all. You're depending on ubuntu level experienced people to setup a chroot for you.Its bloat

if arch is meant to be simple, why doesn't it have a simple installer???

>bloat it up with every kernel module on earth to make it simple
>bloat it up with systemd
>bloat it up with dev headers, docs and more in the package

>no simple installer

inb4
>your hands, LOL noob

what the hell why doesn't arch include a fucking simple shell script for installing shit, it wouldn't even be 1kb

pure elitism

>>61393861
Arch is for advanced users only.

>>61393861
technically you just, partition, mount in /mnt and pacstrap /mnt
and voilà.

How do you want to automatize the partitioning?

>>61393861
That's the joke.

>>61393861
>elitism
guess why they removed the beginners guide

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>>61385440
kek

>>61393577
As long as RGBA hinting is turned on the defaults are fine. Adobe committed a fuckton of improvements to freetype/fontconfig a few years back.

>>61377378
fat pigu

>>61387664
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html

>>61387727
>Please point me to anything that doesn't imply Black and White

>>61394025

>>61377378
Roses are red, violets are purple
Your system is Xorg and you're fucking a turtle.

>>61388394
>Xorg.conf
bad advice, do >>61393616 instead

>>61385792
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, systemd/GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, systemd plus GNU plus Linux. GNU/Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning systemd system made useful by the systemd targets, libraries, core and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the systemd system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of systemd which is widely used today is often called "GNU/Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the systemd system, developed by the Poettering.

>There really is a Linux and a GNU, and these people are using them, but they are just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. GNU are multiple packages. Both are essential parts of an operating system, but useless by themselves: they can only function in the context of a complete bootable operating system. GNU and Linux are normally used in combination with the system operating system: the whole system is basically systemd with GNU and Linux added, or systemd/GNU/Linux. All the so-called "GNU/Linux" distributions are really distributions of systemd with GNU/Linux.

>>61394209
>>>/p/lebbit

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>>61388800
You could also consider picking up some sort of single board computer which are relatively inexpensive and use very little power even when on 24/7/365, which make them ideal for small home servers. Pic related is Cubietruck we have running NextCloud (fork of OwnCloud) plus some other services running on, as well as acting as a home media / file server. It works a treat.

what can i use to serve on my NAS for a linux only network

smb/samba is usecure and i dont use windows

is NFS my only option?

is active directory only applied to windows and i shouldnt need it?
(just use linux groups?)

ftp is unsecure

i use sftp(ssh) for moderating it

>>61394560
linux is unsecure

>>61393598
>I fell for a meme filesystem

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>>61394580(you)
>>61394594
its not a filesystem issue since the zpool works

its a linux issue with importing into unix(bsd) permissions

>>61394680
>its a linux issue with importing into unix(bsd) permissions
your options:
a) off yourself
b) learn what the words mean youre posting

>>61394739
yet you proceed to shit on a subject you clearly have no idea about

if you dont have a answer stfu
you act like a pity little /v/irgin trying to start shit on /g/

>>61394296
>>>/your mother's basement/
>>>/your mother's pussy/
>>>/wherever you're from, IDGAF, I'm just shitposting/