/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

>>61371369
>The 75% layout sucks tho and wouldn't recommend it.
What's so shitty about it? I've already made my buy so I guess it doesn't matter. Is it just because stuff isn't where you usually expect it to be?

>>61371327
Its nice that the numpad on the model M SSK can do alt codes

>>61371393
75% is a great layout, the best compact layout IMO. The only thing bad about it is finding alternate keycap sets.

>>61371393
If you want compact get a compact 80% its a shame they aren't as popular and only korean customs make them

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>>61371327
HRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNN
j/k yay F keys

>>61371327
>Model Meme

>tfw comfy function keys and a escape key
>tfw theres people out there who are okay with a touch bar

enjoy latency and no input feedback

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>>61371567
>tfw applel is paving the way for full touchscreen keyboards on laptops
>tfw 5 years from now even $100 walmart pc laptops will have shitty applel knock-off touchscreen keyboards
>tfw they will still be 1366x768

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>>61371674
REEEEEEEE

What is your opinion about kalih blue switches?

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Any news of the new Motospeed CK101? $45.99 from the gearbest. Best tkl for the price?

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>>61373021
>that keycap printing

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>>61373021
Nah tomoko is cheaper and is just as well built. Should've picked up during prime day, tho I think there are a couple coupons left

>>61373021
>bestgoy

>>61373150
>gaybeast

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>>61371327
Fantastic, f keys, just needs a numpad to be perfect.

>>61373068
>buy this
>it goes on sale like 3 days later
reee

great keyboard though

>100 dorra
>eu / uk
>cherry mx black
>ansi
>i know its difficult. but 90%, if not possible then TKL
>Backlight, yes please
> laptop

Why is Godspeed so hyped

Probably the most boring set out there

Classic Beige is better

>>61373916
YMD96
coolermaster masterkeys pro m

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>>61373916

Rocking a Rantopad MXX I bought a couple weeks ago, liking it so far. Tkl with gateron blacks/browns/blues (reds went mia, out of stock maybe). It does have fixed height and shit abs caps, but from what I've gathered with the fellow /g/entoomen it seems to be 100% mx compatible, so the latter is fixable down the road with a nice set of pbt keycaps. Oh and it should you well below your $100 limit.

Is there any way I can use the KBDFans massdrop just to get the keycaps with no keyboard parts?


https://www.massdrop.com/buy/kbd75-custom-mechanical-keyboard-kit

>>61374122
i don't think you can, that's the only real appeal of the massdrop, so you can save a bit of money if you buy both the keyboard and the fancy keycaps

>>61374108
ymd96 is nowhere available
cm masterkeys pro m, there is no mx black wariant.

>>61374283
then forget about 90%

>>61373916
>>61374324
What's 90%

>>61373875
Its right there tho on another layer :^)

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>>61374341
this layout

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>>61374341

>>61373002
Nobody will help me

>>61374378
fuck that shit, it doesn't have an F row, real 90% has F keys

>>61374394
Luckily for you kailh has a review of them that's 100% biased

>>61374378
That's 80%, not to be confused with TKL

>>61374425
80% = TKL

>>61374443
TKL would be closer to 85%

>>61374394
good luck finding a non-shill who has tried all of
>cherry mx blue
>gateron blue
>outemu blue
>kailh blue
and
>who isn't retarded and tried all of them with the same keycaps
to be able to give you an informed opinion

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i'll finish this set one day

>>61374454
80% = TKL is the established nomenclature just google it. the >>61374378 crap is so non-standard it doesn't even deserve an "official" name yet

>>61374489
digging the color scheme

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>>61374369
Not aligned, not instantly available, not intuitive, might as well not exist in that form.

>when you press the keys on your old membrane keyboard for shits and giggles
ahahahaha it's so fucking bad and plebs still use this shit in 2017. there are even sour grapes fags who know about mechanical keyboards but still reject them

>>61374545
What do you think of the R51? I think it looks fucking great but I also have a personal aversion to remington products in general.

>Budget - <$150
>Location - USA
>Preferred switch type - Cherry MX Red/white
>Layout - ANSI
>Form factor - 100%, preferably with Macro keys
>Backlight - Yes
>Previous/current keyboards - Early 200s dell mechanical.

I'm new to the mechanical keyboard scene, so beginner suggestions are welcome.

>>61374699
preferred form factor?

>>61374734
Its on there.
100%?

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Bought a fc660 and it'll be here today. I'm coming from a ducky shine 5. What am I in for faggots?

>>61374743
preferred form factor?

>>61374775
5) Form factor
Specifies the amount of keys your keyboard will have:
- 100% - full keyboard with function keys, navigation section and numpad,
- 80% or TKL (tenkeyless) - usually without numpad, but there are also keyboards without arrows instead,
- 60% - no numpad, function and navigation keys are on a function layer.
- 65-75% - different variations of previously described.

>>61374600
>know someone who has one of those shitty old corsair k90's where they are half cherry reds half membrane
>don't like cherry reds personally, but fuck me those membranes are bad

>>61374545
Its still a numpad. It even does alt codes :0)

>>61374497
>88/104 = 84.6%
calls it 80%
wew lad

>>61371393
I'm looking at some pictures and despite the name there doesn't seem to be much of a difference in size between 75% and 80%. Does 80% have a slightly larger spacebar?

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>>61374785
>- 60% - no numpad, function and navigation keys are on a function layer.
Lol you couldn't be any more wrong.
Those percentages just specify the size of the keyboard.
This keyboard is 60% yet it has a numpad and navigation keys.

>>61374864

this
>>61374489
is a 75%

an 80% is standard tkl, even though its closer to 85%


>>61374885

it's got nothing to do with the size retard, it's the number of keys compared to a 100%

>>61374699
>Early 200s
damn nigga you ancient

>>61375122
He probably means a Dell AT101W he got for pennies/free once and has been using for a while.

>>61374925
It does tho. 60% is 15u X 5u. Doesn't matter what keys you put there. For All I care it could be nothing buy shift keys, if it fits in that footprint its 60%

>>61375163
no it's not

>>61374864
75% and similar layouts require a slightly nonstandard layout to squeeze the bottom row because of the arrow keys. this can be solved in different ways for example with 1u alt+fn+ctrl or with 5.5u spacebar or with 1.5u ctrl+alt + 7u spacebar + 1.5u alt+ctrl

>>61375243
oh and the 1.75u right shift instead of 2.75u to make room for the up arrow key

>>61375163
You're a dumdum

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>>61375243
Then you have this monstrosity of a a non standard keyboard

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>>61374404
I use layers to get around lack of keys, works great once you get used to it.

>>61374885
that is the dumbest keyboard layout I've seen yet.

>>61375420
ignoring the 2u esc and del that's p sexy

>>61375183
>>61375340
It does tho. 60% refers to the size of the keyboard compared to a full size, hence the percentage. Do the math
62/104 = 59.6%
The size of the keyboard has nothing to do with the layout of the keys. They could all be function keys and as long as it fits that size its a 60%

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>>61375442
You haven't seen much have you then?

>>61375454
1.5u. check out drevo excalibur for something similar

>>61375472
Okay that's the dumbest layet I've ever seen
>3 shift keys
For what purpose?

>>61375490
Nah i've already got a couple of 75%, want to go back to tkl but they're obviously not that cool these days

been tempted by that moon board

>>61375497
the bottom two keys are probably mapped to space and fn/backspace

>>61375439
Flip your fucking space bar before you destroy your thumbs.

>>61375519
No, if that was proven to be more ergonomic every keyboard would do it.

>>61375472
How far can we go

I'm thinking just alphas, where some keys act as modifiers when long-pressed, could theoretically work. That would be literally 25%.

>>61375497
They likely shift to different layers

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>>61375529
they do it because of
>tradition
>pre-existing molds
>aesthetics (flipped spacebar looks out of place to normies)
>the user can flip it themselves

when the keyboard maker can design their own keycaps from scratch, it's not that uncommon for them to make spacebars that are shaped/tilted differently

>>61375531
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHAFpK-0hug

>>61375576
A lot of keyboards don't allow for flipped space bars because the manufacturers never considered it to be important to anyone. The proper typing position should keep your thumbs well above the space bar, not resting on a slanted space bar so I'm pretty sure it shouldn't be flipped.

Does anyone have that video of some Japanese ladies working on the closed captioning for their television company live? It was like a behind the scenes video from a few years ago. I can't find it anywhere but I really want to take a better look at the keyboards they use.

Is this the most autistic general on /g/? Holy shit, just buy a fucking keyboard, you don't need changing keys, you don't need arguing what's best between 100% or whatever, hell most of you probably don't even have use for a mechanical keyboard in the first place.
I just don't understand what you can discuss all the fucking time. It's just a fucking keyboard goddamnit.

>>61376126
Just where do you think you are?

>>61376126
you do know what being a hobbyist is? Literally every facet of life has it's hobbyist communities. Everyone knows you can just buy paper plates or get yourself some fine china. I'll actually go out on a limb and say the very fact that the concept of preference is alien to you, that you yourself are probably the true autist here.

>>61376126
>people arent allowed to like watches
>or cars
>or antiques
>or knives
>or guns
>or clothes

You sound a little bit silly now, don't you?

>>61376126
faggot confirmed
>>61376175
>>61376180
>>61376210
and refuted.

>>61376210
Do I?

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Where can I buy PBT keycaps for an Alps keyboard? Specifically a KBP V80 if it matters.

AT101W's aren't PBT caps, are they? I have one in a drawer somewhere.

>>61376126
enjoying stuff is stupid right anon!


fuck you

>>61376325
yes.

>>61376325
Absolutely.

>>61376363
For new keycaps you're limited to SP. Matias is making PBT keycaps, but that's at least a year away. I know the old dell at101s had PBT keycaps, except for the space bar, but they switch to ABS in the newer models. If the keycaps have a yellow tint to them, then they are ABS

>>61376544
>you're limited to SP
SP?

>>61376325
>hurr this hunk of cheap plastic and rubber is the pinnacle of technology

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Don't mind me I'm just being the best mechanical keyboard available.

>best switches
>best form factor
>comfiest keypress sound

What more could you want? And if you say a numpad, you gay.

>>61376664
>Fn PgUp PgDn
ATREHG[OIAMKJRG;KOAJM E G;LKAMERGFUCKINGUGH

>>61376664
>no f keys
>retarded layout
Get out.

Bump for F keys.

You served me well back in my D2 LOD days and I still utilize you today for my browser.

>>61376589
Signature plastics is currently the only one making PBT keycaps for Alps. If you want ABS you have plenty of options from matias, tai-hao, diatech, and even SP themselves

>>61376664
nice wasted space faggot

>>61376705
you can see the F keys in that picture

>>61376826
>he doesnt know what function layers are

>Budget - €150 - €300.
>Location - BE/EU.
>Preferred switch type - Tactile but silent.
>Layout - ISO.
>Form factor - TKL.
>Backlight - Not required.
>Previous/current keyboards - Logitech G510. I want to free up some desk space.

I'd also like it very much if it has good keykaps so that I don't have to hunt down
an aftermarket ISO set.

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>>61376705
I see 12 F keys right there

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>>61376841
>wasted space
This. If you have a keyboard larger than pic related you probably have autism.

>>61376870
Sorry, I'm only seeing number keys, no F keys there.

>>61376687
git gud bitch

>>61376705
>>retarded layout
It's actually perfect if you're not gay

>>61376841
>wasted space
That's a really harsh way of describing yourself, I would never call you that.

>>61376875
>That massive key
>Those huge bezels
nice try fag, you ain't tricking me

>>61376841
>muh wasted space
I too like my keyboards completely unusable.

>>61376832
>Signature plastics
I presume since you have to contact them for a quote they are ludicrously expensive?

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>>61376876
I didn't know old people browsed 4chan
here's a higher rez image just for you

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>https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01K4GXJMA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Rate my purchase /g/

>>61371327
>Budget
~$125
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Buckling springs, but will consider anything with high tactility
>Layout
US, must have three modifier keys for macOS
>Form factor
TLK or smaller
>Backlight
No
>Previous/current keyboards
Space Saver II (shitty membrane keys) Model M, M13 (too huge), Apple Wireless Keyboard (current, miss buckling springs but can't go back to anything non-TKL)

Is this possible?

>>61376949
3/10
needs more memes

>incoming scrub question

whats the mose sensitive resistance color for switches?

>>61376997
wut?

>>61376946
That's odd, why did they print F key lettering on keys that clearly aren't F keys?

>>61376946
>he has to hold down a alternative key to use his function keys
>he doesnt deem them important enough to have standalone dedicated keys

>>61376949
Report back how you like it.

The standard pisscheap but great-tier keyboard on here is the Easterntimes I-500, it's 20 quid at the minute. Interesting to see if that is any good by comparison.

>>61377024
What do you mean I pressed the key and I got F6, no modifier was needed. I wonder why? I just pressed it

>>61377024
They're mostly useless yeah.

Was looking at the I-500 but couldnt get one with the switches i wanted (reds) so I just settled with the Drevo. The backlighting was a bonus too. I'll report back in a week

>>61376841
>function layers
see
>>61374545

>>61376997
Reds

>>61376997
don't listen to >>61377116. Its clears as they are 10g lighter

Mx Speeds or Reds

>>61377138
neither, use mx pink instead

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>>61374625
I like how it looks and feels a very lot but it's not very comfortable to shoot, the steel-on-aluminum delay mechanism is worrying and lots of people have feeding failures, though I do not. It's very easy to rack and the trigger is a lot like MX Blue switches actually, staging with a clean break and loud snap on press and not much noise or sensation on reset.

KEYBOARD THREAD POST EM BOARDS

>>61377150
Too quite

>>61377024
When was the last time you used all your f keys multiple times in one day you fucking sperg. Fuck off.

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What are your thoughts on the Noppoo Choc mini?
I'm currently using a CM Quickfire TK and I'm wondering how would it compare to it in quality.

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55G modded my noppoo EC-108 today!

>>61376363
http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-alps-matias-granite/

is there any keyboard comparable to ducky shine, brown switches? Sorry I'm new to keyboard. I don't care about rgb but a nice colors or maybe transparent keys would be nice. Anything with a nice color theme I guess.

so i decided to get the ducky one but i dont know whether to go with red switches or blue switches

i already have browns and want to try something new

>>61377550
Cooler master pro m, Ducky One

>>61376924
yes, don't buy directly from them, you would have to do a group buy

>>61377557
I quite like blues. they're so damn responsive. you just know when they've actuated it's pleasing. there isn't any doubt it happened. also youy get the *clickaclkclckclclckclclicka*

>>61377557
get blues, since browns are just reds with a pimple in them

>>61376924
They sell keycaps for alps on their site, but if you want something cheaper then it would have to be bought through a group buy.

>>61377557
Reds are barely a step up from a membrane keyboard in my opinion, they are kind of crappy to type on.

>>61377190
i have a noppoo choc mini rgb. in terms of quality it's probably not really better than your quickfire tk if you have aftermarket keycaps on the quickfire. you would get the noppoo if you like the layout. the 5.5u spacebar and the 1.75u right shift limit your keycap choices but they are possible to find. your pic is an old version which has a different frame and a slightly awkward bottom row. i would recommend the plum84 which is basically the same as one of the modern versions of noppoo choc mini and it's programmable (only the RGB version of noppoo choc mini is programmable afaik).

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Plum84-white-LED-backlit-mechanical-keyboard-gaterom-mx-brown-blue-red-compact-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap/32767632458.html

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Who here /prefer outemu blues to cherry mx blues/?

>>61373002
Kailh changed their molds so they should be good now. First gen Kailh switches are absolute crap, but if you grab their speed or box switches, then you're getting a decent switch on the level of Gateron.

>no Ducky One tkl with white LEDs, only blue
REEEEEEE

>>61375609
>FUNCTION LAYERS

God, who needs a 100% keyboard when my 3% keyboard has everything you need. The function row is RIGHT THERE, you don't need to reach AAAAALLLL the way over to the top row just to hit some keys you never use anyway. I have the function row on my LAYERRRSS, god anyone that has function rows is a completely autistic retard that needs to fuck off back to r/mk.

>the function layer retard will still show up every time regardless

>>61376949
>no name switches

Should've bought the Excalibur instead. Your typing experience will either be terribly bad or half-way decent. Wish you luck, because the layout is god-tier.

is the Vortex Race 3 Mechanical Keyboard any good? I'm about to buy it.

>>61377190
It's decent, and I think the keycaps are actually PBT too. The biggest problem is you will NEVER find a 5.5u spacebar ever, so you're stuck with those keycaps forever. The non-removable cable is lame too, and I think there are better keyboards around that price, but it's still a decent board.

>>61377725
I honestly feel like they're worse. Mushy feeling. I'm typing on one right now. Perhaps better suited for gaming, but generally typing they're just OK.

>>61377932
If you actually like the flat feeling of DSA profile, then sure; I think they feel like chiclets. The only other problem is the non-standard esc and del key, so finding keycaps will be pretty tough, and I think the only guys that make those keys are SP. So you only have the option of too flat DSA, or waiting 2 years to get an SA set that's too high.

If you're one of the few that actually like DSA, then do it.

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Are there any full size chink mechanical keyboards with decent switches and absolutely plain, square design like picture related that I could get from aliexpress or the like?

I got a tenkeyless with gateron blacks off ali a while ago and while it's good quality at a bargain price, it's also kinda gaudy and I want a fullsize one.

>>61378080
That white LED Cover really fucks me off.

>>61378080
Just get a Ducky, Filco, or Varmilo like everyone else. Most 100% Chink boards with real switches are around $100 anyway, so you might as well go with something good like Ducky.

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I hope they packaged this shit up well, can't sleep properly knowing someone making minimum wage could be throwing my keyboard around for fun.

>>61378353
what did you get

>>61378374
KBP V80, having to import it from the US because no-where in the UK stocks it with the keys I want.

Why do I see red with white leds

>>61378025
Chinks make good pbt dyesub dsa

what is the cheapest recommended keyboard?

>>61378688
i500

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>>61375442
Don't you dare make me get my keyboard folder

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Bretty cute for $50. Too bad it isn't out yet from the looks of things.
https://www.donya.jp/item/74759.html

how hard would it be to change the color on existing keys and drawing the numbers back on? How do people typically draw the numbers and letters on the keycaps they customize?

>>61379107
looks pretty cool. might be unironically practical to use too.

Any news on another YMD96 groupbuy, or just it going back in stock??? Thanks

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>>61379129
if they're dye sub pbt the legends will remain visible if you don't dye them too dark

>>61379271
ask them directly

http://www.ymdkey.com/col.jsp?id=101

>>61379306
Will do, thanks.

Ok, yet another newbie here. Judging from the pastebins, I should be looking for a 100% Cherry MX White (or Green) PBT Keyboard?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2170

Is this good quality then, or should i be looking elsewhere?

>>61376949
>huge f-keys
Disgusting

>>61379372
mx white is inconsistent. see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fKDWH94dd0

just go with green/blue instead

ducky one is good. just make sure you really want a 100% layout so you don't regret not getting a more compact layout

>>61379107
>$50
Considering all the other 40% ones are like $150 that does look very good

>>61374885
That's... Actually really clever. Where can I get this?

>>61379284
>MY switches

Gross.

what is the mechanical keyboard equivalent of mice?

YMD Tech vs. KBDFans, who would win

>>61379529
razer deathadder elite

what do topre switches feel like? are they more closer to reds than browns?

how are you supposed to type on blues at night it sounds like gunfire

This thread has far too many
>F keys

Normies leave

>>61379626
They feel like rubber domes.
I'm not joking. They collapse a little smoother and the squish at the bottom is a little less pronounced than the average dome but they are literally rubber domes.

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So I did it lads. I wanted a *new* mechanical keyboard with a proper stinknub.

>>61378688
redragon makes the best cheap mechs

really good build quality and solid switches

>>61379730
rubber domes have a huge variety of feels

my little hhkbl2 is better than soft topre mechanicals for example

>>61379739
>"lads"
>ansi

Looks like you fit into one of the three following categories:

>an american using british speech norms
>a brit unknowingly buying a US layout keyboard
>a brit dvorak user

Which is it?

>>61379787
BTC domes and buckling rubber sleeves are snappy and feel better than Topre, imo

>>61379798
I'm an American, and I have a keyboard problem.

I already own about 30 of 'em, from SGI boards to the earliest and best ADB keyboards, which is my primary focus, to the Compaqs w/ integrated trackball.

I won't have some faggoty Euro-setup on my desk. A keyboard for every mood.

What I don't do is nu-boards with your Reddit emoji and peach-colored keys and such.

>>61377865
Don't fall for the RGB meme and just get nice keycaps for it instead anon

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>>61373021
Easier to just wear this friendo.

>>61374378
>not having backspace right above enter and the \| key above that
pleb

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>>61379474
make it yourself cunt with a slightly modified GH60

>>61379869
the \| key takes too much sideways movement and the backspace in cherry profile has a comfy profile. the real non-pleb way to do backspace is to have a split spacebar or to rebind lshift+rshift+space, ctrl+space and ctrl+enter as backspace, and capslock as enter

should I get the ducky one in mx red and the leopold 980m in mx blue???

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>>61380102
Depends on what you want. Ducky has a bunch of hardware level features like macros, media keys, and a few other things, while the leopold doesn't have those, it does have better build quality

>>61380162
wew

carbon?

that's pretty advanced

>>61379529
Microsoft Intellimouse Optical, or the MS trackball.

>>61379818
This. But note the travel on the buckling sleeves is pretty darn short compared to the rubber domes.

>>61374378
this < Cooler master Pro M
7 non standard keys vs 2

Does magicforce have good quality boards or is it cheap chink shit?

>>61381022
Decent enough, though the stock keycaps are made for tiny chink fingers.

>>61379739
>proper stinknub
I hope you aren't expecting something like a genuine TrackPoint, because it's completely different.

>>61381022
They're good if you switch out the keys, and buy them with Gateron switches. They're great budget boards, you just need to make sure they actually come with good switches when you buy them.

>>61381290
outemu blue is fine

>>61381431
Why get Outemu when you can spend $5 - $10 more to get smoother, better switches?

>>61381022
they're alright, but if you include the price of thick pbt cherry profile keycaps, a magicforce 68 with gateron switches ends up costing like $90-100 so you may as well go for a tada68 unless you want different keycap colors

>>61381470
blue switches are gateron's weak point, and the price difference is $20+

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-68-Keys-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01ABUJ2KM
>$40
https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-GATERON-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01J708CCG
>$63

https://input.club/the-comparative-guide-to-mechanical-switches/tactile-clicky/cherry-mx-blue/
https://input.club/the-comparative-guide-to-mechanical-switches/tactile-clicky/outemu-blue/
https://input.club/the-comparative-guide-to-mechanical-switches/tactile-clicky/gateron-blue/

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Didn't expect the backlight to be this weak.

>>61381685
Why are you outside

>>61381558
>posting shill club

Gateron has a way smoother actuation and the spring doesn't freak out when it's going back to reset. I think most people don't like it just because the spring is lighter than Cherry. And with Outemu, you actually have to worry about the consistency of each switch. Cherry sounds better than both though. I did hear a rumor that Outemu is actually trying to make good switches now and have changed their molds, but I would stay away in the meantime.

The best might have to be Kailh box or speed switches though. Linear switches with a "click bar" sounds pretty cool.

>>61381685
Isn't the Shine 6 supposed to be blue? And isn't it supposed to be made out of aluminum? What the hell is that thing?

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>Cherry switches
>PBT caps
>TKL
>no faggoty LEDs
>nice simple design
>font on the keys isn't some sort of meme
>only costs $80

Is the MasterKeys S PBT the greatest mechanical keyboard ever made?

>>61381899
It comes in four colors: Black, Blue, White, and Gold. They also teased a red one. Now the top of the case is plastic, but all the internal structures are made from steel

>>61381906
pretty solid, but is it in stock anywhere?

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>>61381930
Newegg? They've been in stock for like two weeks solid.

>>61381906
I'm guessing it's $80 without LEDs? Yea, I don't know who Cooler Master talked to, but they decided to make a good keyboard worth using as opposed to all the other GAYM3R companies. I just hope it has an aluminum plate.

>>61381906
The ducky dye-sub TKL is much much better, and only costs 15 bucks more, but good luck finding one in stock since they sell like hot cakes

>>61381944
2KRO
K
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>>61381884
>Cherry sounds better than both though.
they sound the fucking same because they got new molds. the old ones had a duller sound because the molds were way past their expiration date

>>61381974
lol look at this membranelet

>>61381974
Literally not a problem.

Been using Unicomps for games since like 2011 and not once had an issue.

>>61381960

I'm pretty sure it's got a metal plate. Fucker is too heavy for it's size not to have some kind of metal in it. It's almost 1kg.

>>61381944
Probably, but also they have some issues
>almost all usable keyboards hasn't nkro
>the ones who can do use it are expensive as fuck, have a weird layout or both
>the springs are heavy

>>61382000
>>61382000
It depends of the game though.

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>>61381960
Funnily enough they are now partners with the company that used to own Ducky before Ducky became independent. I guess they talked some sense into them. It might also explain why after Ducky became independent they came out with this ugly fucker

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Are Outemus technically 'mechanical feel' switches?

I can press them down until they snap, then lift a little, then keep tapping it, and it registers the strokes without it making the click. Also if I'm really really careful about pressing it (like, holding one of the direction keys my finger and thumb), I can get it to make the click noise without actually registering any keystroke at all.

Anyone else encounter this with Outemus, or any other type of blue switch?

>>61382069
What in the ever living fuck is that thing on the right side?

>>61381906
>>61381930
the mx green version is nowhere to be seen

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>>61371674
post yfw future laptops are just oversized nintendo dses

>>61382071
I can do that as well on my cherry blues. Its because of the two part design of the switch

>>61382080
Its for your mouse. You wire it through then under neath your keyboard for cable management

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>>61382098
That's weird, do all blue style switches do it?

Anyone else got kails or gaterons to try it? What about tactile Alps? I only have non-tactile Alps to hand, and this keyboard is my only Cherry style one.

>>61382124
It doesn't work very well on my cherry blues. I can't do
>make the click noise without actually registering any keystroke at all.
at all on mine, but I can make it register without the click, tho its really hard to do on the shorter profile keycaps its impossible. The tall ones like SA make it a lot easier

>>61382071
>make the click noise without actually registering any keystroke at all.
i can't do this on my outemu blues

>>61382033
About this, is there a mod to get "Red buckling springs"?

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>>61382164
>>61382205
You guys tried holding a key you can get a hold of really tightly, and pressing it super slow?

The keyboard I'm on is the Victop I500, definitely Outemu's because they say so on the switch, I can't see someone making a fake of a clone.

>>61382237
I could think on chinks pirating gateron in the future.

>>61382224
I assume you mean the weight
The model F bottoms out at 70g compared to the 60g of reds.

>>61376363
AEK keycaps are pbt and plentiful, but bottom row won't fit and F keys will be sideways.

>>61382237
nope to working at all. Maybe that's what separates gateron and cherry from the rest of the chink shit. Though I can register clicks on gat blues without them clicking

>>61382301
It's kind of annoying now that I know about it, but I can't really do it unless I do it deliberately, so I guess it doesn't really matter that much.

>>61381218
Unicomp's Endurapro is the same exact board (with a couple improvements to chassis structure) as the IBM M13, in fact Unicomp built them for IBM.

In any event IBM branded Trackpoints have come in a variety of editions, but Unicomp actually owns the Trackpoint patents.

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>>61382406
Only sadly you can't get the Unicomp in sexy Black/Black.

>>61382094
>they included ipad style home buttons
why

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>>61382432
One can always order keycaps though...

>>61382452
That looks pretty damn good.

>>61382432
iirc in some cringe video with the mom and the shirtless brother the guy got a custom black unicomp with black blank keycaps

>>61382479
Yeah, they used to make them Black/Black if you wanted them, now you have to order the keys seperate. I used to have one with black blank keys, I didn't have autism though I don't think.

>>61382494
i was thinking of this video, it wasn't black

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X76o1yHRTJg

>>61382527
They used to do black pad printed keycaps. I wonder why they stopped

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>>61381873
I have bad lighting in my room. Waited to get a bit dark but the LEDs still seem to be too dim

>>61381899
The other colors are special editions. The black is the standard one and has PBT double shot keycaps. Special editions are all ABS.

>>61382080
Built-in mouse bungee.

>>61382124
I'm on a Matias Quiet Pro. It's not as crunchy as a Tactile Pro or buckling springs, but the tactility is much better than even MX Blues.

>>61382432
I'm sure you could if you send them an email. From what I've heard, they're good about custom orders so long as it's not outlandish.

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>>61382612
Ok I think I found a way to make it bright enough. You have to set it to solid white so you get max brightness for all three RGB LEDs in each switch.

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>>61382730
Going to ask Unicomp for a tenkeyless with beamsprings and a dildo for a trackpoint nub.

>>61382791
won't it be too bright in your room

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QUICK... why shouldn't I buy this? I don't really want to spend much more Canadian pesos, and I need a back light.

>>61383233
Low quality LED, not sure if it fixed already. But for that price it's not a bad deal I guess.

>>61383233
You could post a link, but most people wouldn't recommend Outemu switches because they're not consistent or smooth as Gaterons/Cherrys. Most people would recommend MagicForce if you're going to go budget, going with a no-name is risky.

Just spend more for Gaterons or grab a MagicForce.

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>>61383047
Nah, my G810 is way brighter but it's probably because of the design of the Romer G switch. It also seems like Ducky used a very opaque white plastic for their double shot keycaps.

Quick question; should I get an Anne Pro this week or wait two weeks and get a Pok3r.

Money is a bit tight and will be for the foreseeable future so curious if the $30~ difference is worth it. I have a set of keycaps I'll use so that doesn't matter.

Where can I get some high quality backlit keys at an affordable price?
Kinda new to this whole keyboard thing and want to make this my first mod.

>>61383778
The Anne Pro is arguably better than the Pok3r. Gateron switches are smoother than Cherrys too, but for clicky, it's debatable which is better. So here's what to take into account.

>Gateron Brown > Cherry Brown
>Gateron Red > Cherry Red
>Gateron Blue >= Cherry Blue

Pok3r has an aluminum case while Anne Pro doesn't. If you really want to upgrade in the future though, it's quite easy to get a case for the Anne Pro (plastic cases are better for portability anyway). Both come with PBT keycaps (unless you go for Pok3r RGB, but Anne Pro has RGB anyway). I saw pick up the Anne Pro.

>>61383850
I've waited for months for a Pok3r to show up and finally gave up.

I'm leaning towards the Anne Pro but I'm hearing the keys are wobbly in comparison. :/

>>61383803
I hear Vortex has the best backlit keycaps, so check it out.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1329

>>61383861
While Gaterons are technically wobblier than Cherrys, it is hardly noticeable and a non-issue.

>>61383894
Thanks for answering. Last question: where are the cases for the Anne Pro? I'm having difficulty finding any. Preferably not plastic.

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hi

>>61383927
There are plenty of 60% cases out there, but the problem is that the PCB can only be secured with 2 screw holes. So if you don't move it, you can get away with it.

I did find this one Chinese case from Taobao that's aluminum, but it's pretty expensive.

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.54.ebb2eb2InQuiY&id=545373034954&ns=1&abbucket=17#detail

>>61383927
cases are pretty expensive, i'd just get the pok3r

check these out tho
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/case

>>61374489
Can anyone tell me what PCB is this?

>>61384196
KBD75

You have to get it as a kit though. No stand alone PCB.

Though you could check this out:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/xd84-75-eepw84-Custom-Mechanical-Keyboard-Supports-TKG-TOOLS-Underglow-RGB-PCB-programmed-kle-Kimera-core/3034003_32819790747.html

>>61384230
Thank you!

>>61383978
Too many F keys, disgusting

worked yesterday with a corsair k70
and I got to admit, it's some insane improvement and awesome feeling to work with.

So as a poorfag, is there any alternative >50€(germany) you would recommend?

>>61384846
Did you remember what kind of keys the K70 came with (bump, no bump, clicky)?

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/outemu-3pin-clear-purple-62g-Tactile-Switch-for-custom-mechnical-keyboard-gh60-xd64-xd60-eepw84-gh60/3034003_32817181924.html

really makes you think

>>61384948
they have cherry mx blue brown and red versions

>>61384846
i like the k70. the keycaps that come with it is godawful though. also their open board design really accentuates the dust, it gets dirty real quick.

what kind of keycaps does the logitech g710 have?

>>61385008
ABS like all the other GAYMAN peripheral companies.

>>61385048
CoolerMaster do PBT on the Masterkeys I think

>>61385067
Cooler Master is an odd duck compared to mainstream brands. They even had a Topre board once.

I have an eagle z-77. I love it, and have no complaints. I have somewhat of an itch to buy a new keyboard that isn't cheap chink shit just because, but can't come up with a reason why, since I feel pretty happy with this one. Should I just stick with it, or am I really missing something with a better model?

>>61385142
there is no real justification for owning multiple mechanical keyboards other than being hobbyists.

so yeah buy another one because i know i am

>>61385142
thick pbt keycaps are definitely worth it

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NPKC-Blank-side-printed-Cherry-Profile-Thick-PBT-Keycap-ANSI-ISO-layout-For-Cherry-MX-Switches/32807123075.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/cherry-profile-keycaps-side-printed-red-esc-white-and-red-for-usb-wried-machanical-gaming-keyboard/32801848964.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DOLCH-thick-pbt-keycaps-cherry-profile-side-printed-keycaps-gh60-poker-87-104keycaps-108keys/2230037_32791274444.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-keyboard-pbt-keyboarded-a-large-black-keyboard-keyboarded/32740037614.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-product-104-108-125-PBT-Thick-Keycap-Dye-Sublimated-ANSI-layout-Cherry-MX-Switch-Keycap/32815810006.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NPKC-Blank-121-Keys-Cherry-Profile-PBT-Keycap-ANSI-ISO-layout-For-Cherry-MX-Switches-Mechanical/32750162619.html

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/enjoypbt-blank-keycaps-117keys

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/enjoypbt-keycaps-dye-subbed-keycap-set-117keys

>>61385239
Shit, these prices are way lower than I found for caps. Never ordered from ali before. Is it sketchy? Thanks for the links!

>>61377728
>>61377966

Thanks guys for the answer.
I have the stock keycaps on the quickfire, it just never occurred to me that they are considered bad.
The programming ability of the Plum84 is certainly a nice addition. Is the Gateron version available with the grey/white stock keycap set? I really like the looks of it but I've only found it on the Topre clone variants.

I need a new keyboard at my workplace and I can't decide on the switch type. Currently I'm using cherry mx browns and while I don't have any problem with it I want to try out something different but still reasonably quiet.
What do you recommend?

>>61385477
Matias Quiet Pro or Topres.

>>61385477
This >>61385525

>>61385525
>>61385565
Depends on how trustworthy the coworkers are. Matias and Topre are pretty expensive boards to be laying around.

>>61385273
Ali is basically amazon for china. Now chink sellers can always be sketchy so exercise common sense, but aliexpress as a website is just fine - they try to remove fakes and ban scam listings, they offer full refunds of you don't receive your item, and alipay (the chinese paypal) is perfectly safe.

>>61385273
Aliexpress is the best place to buy Chink shit. Go into a /csg/ and you'll find almost everyone exclusively buys from them.

>>61385304
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Plum84-white-LED-backlit-mechanical-keyboard-gaterom-mx-brown-blue-red-compact-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap/32767632458.html?

>>61385580
Then there's always clears, or gateron browns. But if you limit yourself to "mainstream"/cheap (aka cherry and clone switches), and you want quiet, you're basically stuck with their tactile or linear ones.

Now cherry browns are considered very mushy and bad by most people, so gat browns could be a much better experience. Clears are heavier if you're into that. Linears are, well, linear, which most people don't like for typing but you could always give them a try.

If you can spare the expense though definitely consider matias quiets or topre. Try them out if you can before choosing - they're both high-quality quiet switches, but in every other regard they're extremely different.

I'm considering buying a WASD with greens, does anyone have any experience with them?

Are there any cheap 96 key layouts out there apart from the CF QF TK?

>>61385703
Don't buy their keycaps, or make sure to get their keyboards with GMK or Originative keycaps.

>>61385854
What's wrong with their keycaps?

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>>61385906
They're pad-printed crap that are only manufactured to make as many different user-created keycaps as possible. Actually durability takes a backseat, so they're shit.

>>61385652
>Now cherry browns are considered very mushy and bad by most people
>by most people
You mean /g/. I do agree the tactile feel is very light but that doesn't mean cherry browns are bad.

So KBDfans offer the TADA68 in DIY form now, you can use superior PCB mount stabilisers, any meme switches you want and save money. What reasons are there left to not get it?

>>61382612
Yeah I feel the same way, they look way brighter in photos and videos than RL

>>61385906
unless you want something super customizable, as in, anything outside of just your own color scheme, and extra legend printing, there are better alternatives.
basically >>61385953

>>61382791
man wahy does ducky and other chinks have a hard on for shitty font

>>61371327
why didn't hot swappable switches on kb become a thing and seemed to just have faded away?

>>61386683
too autistic to solder

>>61386898
Because people realised it's a meme that just adds cost and complexity for very little gain. The only reason I'd ever get a hotswap board is if I might sell it in the future.

>>61382406
It's not though. The M13 had a genuine TrackPoint II. The Endurapro has a pointing stick with a totally different technology. Unlike the TrackPoint, which barely moves at all when pushed, it has a lot of movement, like a regular joystick.

That being said, even the TrackPoint II on the genuine M13 is nearly useless for modern computing, because it has an old low speed curve designed for low resolution displays of the early 90s. I haven't used an Endurapro personally, so I'm not sure how it is in regards to speed curve. Neither the Endurapro or the M13 have a center button, which is another huge issue because there's no easy way do scrolling.

Sadly, neither of them will come close to the experience of a TrackPoint IV (what you'd find on a modern ThinkPad).

>>61377869
>my 3% keyboard has everything you need.

we can make a 2%. One key to switch layers, one key is the actual key. Think it would sell well?

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How did I do?

>>61387069
Poorly, try again with a real board next time.

>>61387069
at least it isnt the newer version of that with the retarded looking keycap font and the textured spacebar

I hate you, /mkg/.

>>61387128
...it's a real keyboard...?

>>61387069
>cheap ABS keycaps
>completely fucked bottom row with a 6.5u spacebar that can never be replaced, enjoy your ABS shit
>non-programmable, but you can program the LEDs bro for maximum headshots
>non-removable cable

Only good things
>Cherry switches
>aluminum plate

And I won't bring up media keys because every board that's programmable or has function layers has them too, they're not really a feature. Also your spacebar is fucked and putting CORSAIR on the number row makes you look like a huge tool.

>>61387215
Oh, no that is the one I got, the spacebar feels nice

>>61387264
It's programmable

opinions on this keyboard and the switches?
http://www.bloodyusa.com/product.php?pid=11&id=133

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>>61387257
Real keyboards only, no gaym3r shit allowed, expect CM Masterkeys Pro, those are the only exception.

>>61387302
that keyboard doesn't even have any letters on it!

>>61387069
dumb /v/ermin

>>61387336
It's just a keyboard, relax.

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>>61387293

I'm incredibly skeptical about that switch, but the 3mm bottom out is interesting. The rest of the quality is cheap except for the plate.

You should have showed this off first, it actually looks interesting.

>>61387318
Are you blind? But blanks are masterrace.

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>>61387379
dude woah

>>61387353
We all regretted our first gamershit keyboard too, relax.

>>61387394
I'm enjoying it :)

>>61387445
>>61387445
>>61387445

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>>61387408
If you really wanted RGB, you should've gotten this for the same price, but it's way better quality:
http://www.coolermaster.com/peripheral/keyboards/masterkeys-pro-l/

And if you wanted a cheaper board that's better than both, you should've gotten this:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1686

>>61387484
better how?

>>61387525
>PBT keycaps
>standard fucking layout instead of manufacturing boards with cheap 1.5u alt/ctrl keys and 6.5u spacebars
>removable cable

There are plenty of good boards with PBT keycaps today, it's not 2010 anymore. The trash companies that sell gamershit to children don't care and release the same ABS trash because that's all that idiots know for mech boards. So you're stuck with cheap ABS keycaps in OEM profile that will each up shiny, instead of being able to buy PBT keycaps in Cherry profile that'll never wear because Corsair wants to save money with shit layouts.

Buy Ducky, Filco, Varmilo, or Leopold next time.

>>61387610
how exactly do the abs keycaps "wear out"

>>61387610
Why would I worry about any of that when it's just sitting at my desk?

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>>61387643
You really know nothing about mech boards, huh?

>>61387667
Look at your jizz-stained hands. Your disgusting sweaty hands destroy ABS plastic, and PBT has a texture to them that makes them much better to type on. You should've stayed out of this general, you're only going to know pain.

>>61387695
man you take this shit seriously

>>61387708
And you bought a shit keyboard, better luck next time. Unless you can still return it.

>>61387728
I'll admit it was probably overpriced, I mean I got it at Best Buy, but I wash my hands regularly, so

>>61387744
You still don't get it. Unless you wear gloves, your keycaps are fucked.

Why do you think you have to wear gloves to solder? Your hands are ALWAYS oily. It's just a matter of time, unless of course, you bought a good keyboard with PBT caps.

>>61387744
Wait a minute, doesn't Best Buy have a 30 day return policy if you have the receipt?

>>61387759
>food analogy

I'm sure in 15 years or so it'll suck having to replace it

>>61387774
it does but i think it is only 15 days

>>61387825
> >food analogy

So you're blind and you can't read. Where the fuck did I bring up food? Holy shit, go back to >>>/v/. You're just another hopeless kid buying gamershit because you didn't do an inkling of research; stay the fuck out of /mkg/. I'm done with you, enjoy your shit keyboard, and stay the fuck out of the other thread.

>>61387887
oh no keys are a little shiny I guess the keyboard doesn't work lol

>>61387759
>Why do you think you have to wear gloves to solder?

You don't. You have to wash the board to remove the flux anyway.

does the rosewill rk9000v2 have pbt keycaps?

>>61388243
No