/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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first for old shit

>>61362807
First for remove systemd if you haven't already.

First for

gcc
glibc
coreutils
protected freedom

First for
clang
muslc
busybox
Freedom from autistic gnu associates

Why use the Fedora security spin?

>>61362957
because you fell for the red hat shilling

Asking again because no answer, someone said not to use Fedora, Mint, Ubuntu, or OpenSUSE on my T430. Wanting to know if there's any reason why I shouldn't. I was ready to install either Fedora or Mint. Am I good to continue with one of those?

>>61363027
Don't waste time and go straight to Debian.

>>61363027
You'll probably be best off by Ubuntu LTS or Debian. You get the benefit of largest communities compared to other distributions, easier to solve problems

>>61363027
Mint got a lot of hate recently for some security mishaps, and just being a typical downstream distro.
People do real work while running fedora so I assume it is still a decent distro.

>>61363027
>mint
https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/
>fedora
basically systemd; the distro
wouldn't use it personally, but its better than mint or ubuntu crap

>>61363074
Thank you for a straightforward answer. I'll probably go Debian, because I'm not a huge fan of the look of Ubuntu

>>61363074
>You get the benefit of largest communities
How does that benefit the users of distro x more than users of distro y? Its not like that stuff that works on distro x wouldn't work on distro y.

>>61363089
Just don't get swayed by the premise of debian testing or unstable.
It honestly to God not worth it, stability of debian stable is something you start appreciating after a while and few major fuckups and you can take my word on that. If not, you'll learn on your own mistakes.
Most software packages that benefit from "running the newest versions" actually have a separate repository called "backports" so you can easily download and use newer version of the package you need in case you genuinely need it. And if they don't exist, you'll sooner or later be interested how to build your own packages. It's definitely not as easy as writing a SPEC file for rpm (redhat really got it figured I give them that) bud debuild is not that scary either.

Besides, Debian 9.0 was just released so you won't be terribly behind everyone else.
T430 has a few years, you definitely won't benefit from running a newer version of the kernel (as an example)

>>61363082
>People do real work while running fedora so I assume it is still a decent distro.
You mean like "having a REAL job and getting shit done"? If so, you're just another sheep falling for blunt shilling.

>>61363089
I'd personally go Lubuntu or Xubuntu but not a bad choice

>>61363115
>Its not like that stuff that works on distro x wouldn't work on distro y.
That's absolutely wrong. Distributions use different versions of software packages and compile them with different options (debian is actually notorious for that, they love to disable shit your average user kind of expects to have like smb support for mpv)

Large community means a lot of developers, a lot of package maintainers, and someone responsible to take care of the security.
It also means if you ask on a forum you're more likely to get an answer to your problem. Ever used a forum of some niche distribution? Not a pleasant experience.

>>61363185
Linus Torvalds uses Fedora.

>>61363204
who?

>>61363204
He's also self-admittedly shit at maintaining a running system.
Fedora is nice for development.

>>61363223
He has some really shitty youtube channel where he shills stuff.

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>>61363204
linus choices aren't always the best

>>61363245
jej

What is the best

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>>61363356
Source Mage GNU/Linux

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>>61363356
THE BEST,you say?

>>61363356
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_is_the_best

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>>61363356
freedom

>>61363426
Freedom from not contributing to the tech industry since 1976?

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should I install sabayon? seems like gentoo with an installer

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In debian, is there a way to uninstall a DE? I have 2 on there I was trying them out and I know which one I want now. Do I have to do a total re-installation?

>>61363498
cool tripcode, kid

>>61363490
Doesnn't it come with systemd?

>>61363498
Yes, the normal way of removing packages.

Trying to install Debian currently, but I don't see a way to set up a wireless connection. Any reasons why?

>>61363767
You didn't download the firmware image. Just use Ethernet like a gnu zealot.

>>61363591
I already use systemd on arch

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Inspired by yum package groups, I have decided to write my own, from a minimal install. Text is too long to be written in this post, so here is the pastebin. https://pastebin.com/raw/Ftw795As
>The shitposter starter pack
>Screeching autist's GNOME interface
>Waifu monitoring panel
>Memecrafter's toolbox - trips of seven makes it blessed by Lord Kek, turning into the Blessed UUUU of Kek, only trips of seven may submit modifications from then on
>Normalfag wagecuck bag
>Gaymen's botnet goggles - proprietary drivers to be used by AMD or NVIDIA drivers. Use 'yum search card-brand' to find the name of the package with your driver, might require some searxing <https://searx.me/>. Includes Steam.

>>61363790
So with the live image I can't set up wireless? I have to fully commit?

>>61363767
Debian (due to social contract) does not ship with proprietary software which includes proprietary firmware (your wlan card drivers).

how do you think the ubuntu subsystem on windows affects the popularity of linux?

>>61363846
If it doesn't come with OpenRC as the default init system, then it's not at all like Gentoo

>>61363882
There are images with firmware on them somewhere.

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>>61363882
Should be able to wireless. Even during the install.
Debian Stable is gonna scream at you first for using proprietary/non-free firmware. Pay attention to what it's telling you during the install (i.e. write the name of your firmware down), then run to another computer with an Internet connection, search and download the proper .deb for your specific firmware (should be a quick search engine query away), throw that sucker on a USB flashdrive and have at it. Debian's installer, if I'm not mistaken, should prompt you to insert media containing the .deb and then the installer itself will execute dpkg to install the vile, non-free firmware.
Worked for me during my fresh install of Stretch, at least.
Or simply use an ethernet connection during your installation, then boot into a fresh Debian session and install the firmware post-install. All up to you.

>>61364044
gentoo is too hard for me to install though, I was hoping sabayon would be a nice alternative

>>61364104
You want gentoo? Install gentoo, or the closes thing to gentoo, funtoo
Too hard? sucks to be you, I guess.

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What did I get myself into?

>>61364705
Good choice.

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>>61364705
Wonderful things are in store for you, my friend.

>>61363962
GNU/Linux*

>>61364705
a time machine

>>61364705
Yay someone listened to my advice.

>>61364705
a blast from the past

Is there a simple way to colorize gcc messages?

>>61365437
It does it by default these days.
Get off of Debian or whatever shit you're using.

>>61364705
Finally everything is working. Tried to get the WiFi drivers but my user account didn't have sudo privileges, so when I tried to su, my root acc didn't work so I had to go into recovery mode and drop in bash to reset password and get the drivers set up. Loving it though.

>>61365540
>le ebin debian is old meme
stop

>>61365773
To be fair, people using debian stable and complaining to upstream developers of missing features because they are too stupid to realise they have old packages is fairly common.

>>61363490
No. It's a steaming pile of shit and always will be. Install Calculate if you really have to.

>>61365773
no reason to use debian when ubuntu exists.

>>61366099
Ubuntu is based on Debian, you fucking retard.

>>61366134
and makes it obsolete.

>>61366099
yup, choosing the only distro which comes with spyware preinstalled is the best solution

>>61366157
so don't install it? Use a netinstall and do whatever you want.

>>61366099
>being a corporate cuck
I prefer a community distro.

>>61366167
but I don't want to install your playskool os
get away from me

>>61366195
good luck with support

>>61364705
There's about an 80% chance you'll turn it into some weird sort of Frankendebian within the next year cause you do need up to date software. Eventually you'll have spent days "apt-pinning" and learning the differences between apt, apt-get, the two aptitude frontends, apt-cache, dpkg and synaptic, and it will still refuse to install a needed dependency that's RIGHT THERE IN THE FUCKING REPOS because it conflicts with some other shit you don't even know why it's there in the first place. And hopefully, before you switch back to Windows, you realize that this isn't a Linux problem, it's just that Debian is a steaming pile of shit that should have stayed in the 90's where it belongs.

>>61366243
Maybe he will read the documentation like a normal person before fucking up.

>>61366243
GNU/Linux*

Hey stallman, Howe can you say if you know what you're doing if you can't install linux.

>>61366263
Have you even looked at the documentation lately? If you want to read it all, that would be about 20-30 pages full of Debianisms before you do your first update.

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>>61366292
Do you have autism?

>>61366263
>documentation
lol the documentation is probably as out of date as the distro is. Only good linux documentation is the arch wiki

>>61366336
GNU/Linux*

>>61366326
Stallman can't even install linux, how can he know what he's talking about. He needs someone else to install it for him and he can't even figure out xorg.

>>61366336
By the way, I use Arch.

>>61366326
Yes

>>61366357
From 0-10, how much autism do you have?

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>61366379
Stallman admitted he's never installed linux and finds the GUI too complicated.

>>61366400
What does that have to do with his views on licensing?

>>61366400
I don't think we can solve your problem. I recommend professional help.

>>61366424
If the man can't even install his own OS he is a fool, especially since triquel is extremely easy.

>>61366400
But anon, Linux does not have a GUI.

>>61366446
Do you like swimming?

>>61366440
>>61366448
>>61366461
I can install gentoo, something stallman can't. This is the man who wants to liberate software.

>>61366389

sudo rm -rf /dev/cpu

It's a blast.

>>61366479
I like to ride my bicyle, but only when it's warm outside.

>>61366486
Please go back to funnypunk, 9fag or whereever you came from.

>>61366496
lol, fuck off redditor

stallman never said he can't install GNU/Linux what the fuck is this redditor talking about?

>>61366527
The short interview where RMS said "I never installed GNU/Linux".

>>61366527
>>61366486
>>61366502
>>61366496
This is /glt/, please be more friendly

>>61366536
There's a huge fucking difference between "I never did X" and "I can't do X".

>>61362874
Why? Doesn't it just start things up?

redpill me on centos as a desktop OS

>>61366536
Well, to be fair he never had a reason to install a distro himself since his computers came with an OS (Trisquel/gNewSense) already preinstalled.

>>61366487
That's good, you're smart unlike stallman. Stallman would be helpless without someone to install linux for him so he can promote GNU more.

>>61366577
You're boring. Please more efford or just leave.

>>61366588
Effort into what?

>>61366577
The moon is so beautiful tonight.

>>61366601
Yes it is, won't let anyone fuck my shit up tonight that's for sure.

>>61366577
stallman wrote a fucking compiler
did you write a fucking compiler?
fuck off and come back when you wrote a fucking compiler

>>61366563
Lol, I wish.

>>61366639
And so did terry and he's gods chosen programmer while stallman isn't.

>>61366645
are you terry? if the answer is no fuck off and come back when you wrote a fucking compiler

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Stop shitposting.

>>61366662
If stallman can't install linux he's beyond hope. He hasn't even programmed since the 80s.

>>61366642
>Lol
please

>>61366684
if you can't write a fucking compiler you should fuck off and come back when you wrote a fucking compiler

>>61366662
>implying you can only post on /g/ if you wrote a shitty compiler

>>61366706
>implying implications

>>61366689
What, it was a real laugh! Do you want me to record it?

>>61366699
I can install linux, I'm already ahead of the game than stallman is. Stallman thinks he's so witty doing his little speeches to impress brazilian monkeys and then needs help to install the OS he promotes.

>>61366724
Stallman doesn't promote Linux.

>>61366724
What are you doing on friday? Are you free?

>>61366736
GNU + Linux, the dynamic duo!

Watch out for CIA agents, they're out to get you.

>>61366755
Hurd is on version 0.9 now. Stallman will commit 1.0 on his deathbed and then he will have the last laugh as its built-in AI launches the nukes.

https://github.com/lavabit/magma
Anyone got experience with this lavabit email server? Anyone hosted one? I would love to know if it's as secure as it says,

Some applications crash with segmentation fault error.
Is it because of bad RAM?

>>61366909
Replied to wrong post?

>>61366389

wat() {
    # Tell what options of a command do.
    # Example usage:
    # $ wat grep -A
    x="${1:?}"; shift; y=("${@:?}")
    for i in "${y[@]}"; do
        man "${x}" | sed -n "/^\s*${i}/,/^$/p"
    done
}

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>>61366724
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

So I just installed GCC-7.1 on my machine and I can call it in the terminal by typing gcc-7. How can I change it so it gets called by simply typing gcc? I don't have older versions installed in my system.

>>61367548

ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-7 /usr/bin/gcc

>>61367548
alias gcc=gcc-7

>>61367585
>>61367548


Does this work without rebuilding libraries?

If you have to recommend a distro to a medium/beginner in Linux who want to improve in it (used to use Linux years ago), what will it be?

>>61367747
It just creates a symlink to the executable. When you 'execute' the symlink by calling gcc, it actually executes the linked file (gcc-7).
Learn to read manpages if you don't know what a command does.

>>61367751
Android

>>61367758
But some programs are compiled with gcc. do i have to recompile them when i upgrade gcc?

>>61367751
No distro is inherently better for learning how to use the operating system, GNU/Linux, some just force you to use the command line and give you slightly different tools to accomplish what you want while others give you the option of using GUI tools.
I'd say use Xubuntu, it's lightweight but noob-friendly. Try to move to the CLI as much as possible and refrain from using GUI for system configuration.
Or maybe even install Ubuntu server, that way you force yourself to use the CLI.

>>61367773
What? No. Do you have to rebuild your storage cabinets when you buy a new hammer or screwdriver?

>>61367779
>Do you have to rebuild your storage cabinets when you buy a new hammer or screwdriver?
to test the new tool out, yes.

>>61367779
>What? No. Do you have to rebuild your storage cabinets when you buy a new hammer or screwdriver?
No. But I re-craft my armor after levelling up in smithing.

>>61367785
You could also test it by buying something new. Your previously compiled programs won't magically stop working when you upgrade. GCC is a compiler, not an interpreter.

>>61367793
>>>/v/

>>61364705

>please approve of my choice, please talk about me, please give me attention, please tell me how good of my consumer choices are pls pls

>>61366502
>>61366496

>telling each other to "go back" to websites without realizing it's a virtual space and you can be in multiple places at the same time and that's their only argument

It's like watching monkies fling shit at each other.

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>>61364705
>falling for numerous memes

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Gnome on the tablet is super comfy. There are just a few scenarios where it asks you to press a key and there's no on screen keyboard to save you from that.

Guess I'll patch that myself, never contributed to gnome before. I hope the devs aren't too much of elitist dicks like openssh

>>61368024
What is that ayylien doing in your bed?
Fucking greys.

>>61367930
>being this autistic
It's about they way people act in different communities you moron. Not that you can't "be in multiple places at the same time".

>>61368039

They act the same. They are the same people.

>>61368024
>never contributed to gnome before. I hope the devs aren't too much of elitist dicks like openssh
Hahahah. They are.

>>61368024
wtf

been a while I haven't used a linux distribution. Not sure which distribution should I use. Should I give Gentoo a try? Fedora is still ok?
I will be using it mainly to practice system administration and wireshark.

>>61368243
Use CloverOS

>>61368243
Android.

>>61368243
Install Source Mage GNU/Linux.

>>61368243
install ubunut

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>>61368243

>>61362807
I have a 1TB OneDrive space as part of a free Office365 subscription for students. Unfortunately I am unable to authenticate any applications to use it, because apparently my 'organization is still umnanaged'.
Is there any other option for me to mount my OneDrive space?

Fun fact : all tablet related issues, overlay, snapping the pointer to new windows, tablet preferences etc, worked when switching from Wayland to Xorg

You can't just replace 200 years of development :(

Is openSUSE better than KDE Neon/Kubuntu?

>>61369089

Yes, it has 8 letters while the other ones have 6 and 7.

I have a file encrypted with LUKS
To access it mount it and input the password to decrypt it and work with it and shit.
Now let's say than a swat team suddenly breaches my front door and starts jumping in from choppers through windows and shit and i just enough time to rip my pc's power cord from the outlet
Are my data safe and fully encrypted now?

>>61369098
Well, that settles it then. Off to install openSUSE. It better be good.

>>61369089
Choose the one with less characters. Its a sign of efficience which follows the KISS principle

>>61369123
Do you have an unencrypted swap partition?

>>61369151

KDE Neon does word splitting, it doesn't matter if it has more characters. Both have the same amount, including the whitespace. You can choose if you want KDE or NEON.
openSUSE doesn't do word splitting and you always have to get both.

>>61369151
Well, Kubuntu is less characters than KDE Neon. The space counts as a character. I'm conflicted now. When I think about it, BeOS was great. And that was 4 characters.

>>61369159
y-yes why? i have enough ram so the pc is probably not even using it and even if it is surely stallman wouldn't be stupid enough to program linux to store the decryption key on the hdd

>>61369169
So what's the distro with less characters?

>>61369182
If your computer swaps, and the decryption key is swapped for some reason, unplugging the computer can have the key still being accessible on the swap partition.

Depending on your country, the police is instructed to not turn on the computer in such events, but to freeze it. Or if it's turned on, to bridge it with a portable PSU to their van.

When the police came to my home, the computer was on, it was 4AM, they told me that they need to take the computer. So I plugged it off, the police asked "Wtf are you doing" and I said "I'm plugging it off so you can take it" and the officer was like "oh yes sure, thanks"

Only in Germany, but it was 2005 in a small Bavarian village. They're probably smarter now.

>>61369224

PUD.
http://pud-linux.sourceforge.net/index.en.html

Stay away from the bloated Bharat Operating System Solutions distribution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat_Operating_System_Solutions

What's a MUST HAVE program for my arch linux install?

>>61369313
>BOSS
Oh fuck me twice

>>61369336
cmatrix

>>61369360
already have it

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>>61369336
brain damage

>>61369367
Well then there's nothing else you need.

>>61369336
screeeeeeeenfetch!

Did Spatry die?

>>61369383
I'm already using superior neofetch

>>61369374
working on it

>>61369393
LOL, he's using redditfetch

>>61369293
I'm thinking about buying on of those cheap fitness bracelets with a button and then program the button to instantly dismount all of the encrypted shit on purge any swap and stuff

>>61362807
Someone help me to stop plexmediaserver on a debian server.
I have been trying

sudo service plexmediaserver stop

and

sudo systemctl stop plexmediaserver

But it's still running, what am i doing wrong?

>>61369481
>what am i doing wrong?
you use plex

>>61369481
Are you sure it's a systemd service?

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>>61369481
>proprietary shitware
fuck off, go ask Plex®.

I was just reading about bracketed paste mode being a thing in bash/readline now but it doesn't seem to be on by default in debian. So if you are annoyed by accidentally posting multi-line selections into the shell and it attempting to execute the lines as they are pasted you can turn this on to let you review the multi-line command before executing it. Add

bind 'set enable-bracketed-paste on'

in your ~/.bashrc or the bit in the quotes in your ~/.inputrc

>>61369525
It's listed when i run

sudo service --status-all

and

sudo service plexmediaserver start
sudo service plexmediaserver stop

should work according to some googling on the issue.

>>61369534
So, whats a FOSS alternative that have an Apple tv app as comfy as the plex one and can be streamed outside LAN?

Been trying Emby but didint like it.

>>61369594
>So, whats a FOSS alternative that have an Apple tv app as comfy as the plex one and can be streamed outside LAN?
I don't fucking care friend, fuck off go ask on Plex tech support forums, isn't what you're paying for?

>>61369534
Plex is not working due to corrupt SQLdatabase and i need to stop plex to replace the database with a backup.

systemctl and service commands are not propiertary as far as i know, what was my question was about.

Why does making a keyboard shortcut to run scrot -s not work?

>>61369590
cool thanks

>>61369650
Mind providing more details?

>>61369534
>>61369615
This is not a libre software only hugfest. If you want a thread where only people who don't use proprietary are allowed to post then go make one. You can even make it unfriendly and swear at people!

>>61369673
Meant in xfce, sorry. Settings>keyboard>application shortcuts, I have Shift+PrtSc set to

scrot -s "%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M-%S.png" -e 'mv $f ~/Pictures/screenshots/'

.

Running that command in the terminal works perfectly, using xfce4-screenshooter with the shortcut works perfectly, but using scrot with the shortcut absolutely refuses to do anything.

>>61369681
I'm fairly sure the OP we had for the last few months suggests otherwise.

If you use proprietary software, ask the people who own the rights to your software about why it doesn't work.

>>61369650
Does it print out an error like:

giblib error: Can't open X display. It *is* running, yeah?

>>61369693
maybe it's looking for the display? Try adding export DISPLAY=:0 ; before the command

>>61369336
base-devel

>>61369693
>

-e 'mv $f ~/Pictures/screenshots/

Worst manpage example ever tbqh.
scrot -s ~/Pictures/screenshots/%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M-%S.png

Also try

sh -c 'scrot -s ~/Pictures/screenshots/%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M-%S.png'

in order to solve your actual problem.

>>61369761
already have it

>>61369895
You are pretty much set then, you can get to work now

Is tumbleweed more or less stable than arch?

can someone tell me what sound drivers audiophile linux uses. i am on xubuntu and the sound is shit.

here is the website

http://www.ap-linux.com/

>>61370556
the same yours do
post the output of

pacmd list-sinks

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1 minute 17 seconds.
The time, measured with a stopwatch from clicking on the colourful "Chrome" icon to actually being able to use a browser in windows 7.
On an tiny i3-based (2C/4T at somewhere around ~3Ghz) pc with integrated GPU and 4G of memory I cobbled together at the place I used to work at (basically throwaway) and gave to my sister when her laptop shat the bed.

How
the fuck
do normalfags
do this

My 10 year clunky piece of shit with a fucking ANCIENT dual core cpu and 2G of memory (which I'm sentimental about) gets from a cold boot "iridium" to a functioning browser within 5 seconds.

>>61370556
>what sound drivers audiophile linux uses
Well you have the choice between OSS and alsa. Since in the install instructions they say to set MPD to use

device “hw:0,0”

it looks like they are using alsa, direct to the hardware with any transcoding being done by mpd. No pulse or jack, at least when using their recomended playback method.
They do mention some realtime linux patches for improved latency but I doubt that would change quality unless you had an old single core cpu under high load. They might mess around with buffer and period sizes in mpd idunno.

I think i fucked something up installing programms in arch linux. My sys partition (which was 20 gb) was full and even after i deleted pacman updates it only freed 600 mb.

I have only had it for like 3 weeks at most.

I think i installed all the programs on the wrong place as my root/usr was like 8 gb. Lib and lib64 3 gb each.

Where am i supossed to install things?

>>61370665
>How
>the fuck
>do normalfags
>do this
They have lower expectations and just accept the shit they deal with because they don't know anybetter. Bloatware is just a fact of life, an act of god.

>>61370705
as root

cd / && du -ah && sort -rh && less

It will show you disk usage.

>>61370727
You want me to post it?

>>61370733
No. I want you to look at it and act.

>>61370738
Im not really sure what to do im a newfag.

>>61370765
Do as root

cd / && du -sh * && sort -rh

and post the output. We gonna investigate.

>>61370727
I prefer ncdu for that shit. It is all interactive and whatnot.

>>61370772
0 bin
35M boot
0 dev
8.8M etc
1.9G home
0 lib
0 lib64
16K lost+found
4.0K mnt
1.4G opt
du: cannot access 'proc/938/task/938/fd/4': No such file or directory
du: cannot access 'proc/938/task/938/fdinfo/4': No such file or directory
du: cannot access 'proc/938/fd/4': No such file or directory
du: cannot access 'proc/938/fdinfo/4': No such file or directory
0 proc
1018M root
du: cannot access 'run/user/1000/gvfs': Permission denied
1.2M run
0 sbin
16K srv
0 sys
4.0K tmp
8.4G usr
1.8G var

>>61370832
Sorry, it's

du -sh * | sort -rh

but it's ok. For the next time.
You have 8.4 G in usr
so

cd /usr && du -sh * | sort -rh

DO IT AS ROOT.

>>61370867
4.0G share
3.6G lib
371M bin
315M lib32
178M include
40K local
4.0K src
0 sbin
0 lib64

I did su, enter password and the thing you told me

>>61370620
>>61370687
it appears they are using JACK on their FAQ page. but i am not sure. i just checked UbuntuStudio also uses JACK.

<code>
1 sink(s) available.
* index: 0
name: <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo>
driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
flags: HARDWARE HW_MUTE_CTRL HW_VOLUME_CTRL DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY DYNAMIC_LATENCY
state: RUNNING
suspend cause:
priority: 9959
volume: front-left: 71999 / 110% / 2.45 dB, front-right: 71999 / 110% / 2.45 dB
balance 0.00
base volume: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
volume steps: 65537
muted: no
current latency: 76.02 ms
max request: 13 KiB
max rewind: 64 KiB
monitor source: 0
sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
channel map: front-left,front-right
Stereo
used by: 1
linked by: 1
configured latency: 76.00 ms; range is 76.00 .. 371.52 ms
card: 1 <alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0>
module: 7
properties:
alsa.resolution_bits = "16"
device.api = "alsa"
device.class = "sound"
alsa.class = "generic"
alsa.subclass = "generic-mix"
alsa.name = "VT1802 Analog"
alsa.id = "VT1802 Analog"
alsa.subdevice = "0"
alsa.subdevice_name = "subdevice #0"
alsa.device = "0"
alsa.card = "1"
alsa.card_name = "HDA Intel PCH"
alsa.long_card_name = "HDA Intel

</code>

>>61370924
Install Windows 10 or mac OS

>>61370949

PCH at 0xf7a10000 irq 31"
        alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
        device.bus_path = "pci-0000:00:1b.0"
        sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card1"
        device.bus = "pci"
        device.vendor.id = "8086"
        device.vendor.name = "Intel Corporation"
        device.product.id = "8c20"
        device.product.name = "8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller"
        device.form_factor = "internal"
        device.string = "front:1"
        device.buffering.buffer_size = "65536"
        device.buffering.fragment_size = "32768"
        device.access_mode = "mmap+timer"
        device.profile.name = "analog-stereo"
        device.profile.description = "Analog Stereo"
        device.description = "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo"
        alsa.mixer_name = "VIA VT1802"
        alsa.components = "HDA:11068446,15586501,00100000"
        module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
        device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
    ports:
        analog-output-speaker: Speakers (priority 10000, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
            properties:
                device.icon_name = "audio-speakers"
        analog-output-headphones: Headphones (priority 9000, latency offset 0 usec, available: yes)
            properties:
                device.icon_name = "audio-headphones"
    active port: <analog-output-headphones>

>>61370924
Ok, so we can do nothing for it. But if you want you can go into /usr/share and /usr/lib and look at which packages require so many spaces an uninstall those packages.

You also have /opt 1.4G and /home 1.9G, maybe you could look and clean.

>>61369810
I swear I tried saving directly to pictures/screenshots and it didn't work for some reason. Maybe I'm retarded.

Anyway tried sh -c and it doesn't work either. Again, just as a sanity check, running it through sh from the terminal does work.

>>61370966
Yeah i thought so, im gonna do a clean install today.

Just for future reference, i have been installing shit on the wrong directory right? Where would be the correct place?

>>61371050
>do a clean install today.
No you don't need that. Just remove some packages.

>>61371071
Nah its okay, i forgot to add encryption the first time so i have been meaning to reinstall it

>>61370949
They also say the faq page is outdated.

>>61371091
>encryption
What for?

Hahaha I have a big willy

>>61370949
>>61370964
Your sample rate looks absolutely normal.

My best guess is marketing strategy of bumping the equalizer on window drivers for nigger bass.
Xubuntu sound is just what neutral setting sounds like.

>>61371358
Haha that's great can I see it haha
Like I'm not gay bruh I just want to see it haha

>>61371152
To feel safer

>>61371463
Useless.

>>61371508
Clueless

Hi /g/, noob here,

I'm currently using Arch but I miss my Windows games. Wine is a pain and GPU passthrough is as annoying as dual booting.

What do?

>>61371772
How is dual booting a pain? Literally just press Enter or End-Enter on boot and that's it.

>>61371772
Option A) stop playing games
Option B) suck it up
Option C) get a PS4

>>61371895
>Option C) get a PS4
Do you want to marry me?

WHY IS FREETARD SOFTWARE SO TRASH WHY DOES IT HAVE SO MANY BUGS WHY DOES IT KEEP CRASHING AND COSTING ME TIME WHY CAN'T FREETARD DEVELOPERS HAVE BETTER STANDARDS FOR STABLE RELEASES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

forget it, I'm going back to windows. It was stupid of me to trust software made by a bunch of amateurs.

>>61371986
What kind of newfag are you?

What shit are you running that it crashes?

>>61371986
Sucks to be you.

>>61371797
idk desu, might give it another chance
>>61371895
haha

>you must create a xorg.conf by hand without looking at a wiki
how fucked are you?

>>61372192
startx is the only thing I know about xorg. How fucked am I?

>>61372192
>his distro requires him to create a xorg.conf by hand

kek

>>61372192
>2017
>needing an xorg.conf
What is this nonsense

>>61372215
>>61372241
so I guess you fail. ok

Whenever i start a video on youtube the audio pops, what can i do? Seems like something jumping from 0 to 1.

It doesnt happen when i pause.

Also the videos sometimes get choppy.

What am i doing wrong?

>>61372267
Havent had to use a xorg.conf since like 2006

>>61371772
How is GPU passthrough a pain? Literally just start your VM and that's it.

I'm having problems with the GNOME activities menu and the application menu, uninstalling nouveau and installing nvidia drivers does nothing.

help

>>61372192
>If I remove your internet, will you fail?
It would be extremely tedious:

man xorg.conf

>>61372192
nvidia-xconfig

>>61372318
gl with that

>>61372340
Like I said, it would be extremely tedious. But you said I "must", in which case I'd probably end up spending easily a few days on that but in the end it's just reading + trial and error.

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>>61372331
gl getting all of your mouse buttons working

>>61372412
That wouldnt be xorg.conf,that would be Xmodmap + some sort of binding program.

>>61364705
The installer doesn't measure in Gib or Mib

>>61372215
what if you're making a retro pc that uses an old version of linux? Or you have an old computer that can't handle newer versions?

>>61370990
I just tried it out, too, and I have the same result

>>61372192
I use wayland

>>61372600
so pretty fucked

>>61372100
RE: Wine
After the initial setup of each game, write scripts to set up your environment and start the game for you and dump them in ~/bin. Makes life so much simpler.

>>61372563
Fug. Anyone have any ideas? I don't want to install xfce4-screenshooter if I can avoid it because I like scrot and two screenshot programs would be bloat.

>>61371986
If Debian, CentOS, Fedora (no spins) and Opensuse could not deliver for you, go for OpenBSD.
Debian and OpenBSD are the only "amateur" efforts that aren't utter shit, the rest is backed by Red Hat or Microfocus.

>>61372998
the fuck? openbsd is pure shit. Audio didn't work and couldn't even play back a fucking 480p video without lagging like shit.

ntpd[32174]: unable to bind to wildcard address :: - another process may be running - EXITING

ntpd -gq keeps throwing this. I specifically stopped the ntpd daemon before doing this, and checked that it wasn't running. What else can I do to make it work?

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should I buy this linux laptop?

>>61373074
netstat -nt

>>61373288

C:~\Documents\cpp_stuff> ss -nt
State      Recv-Q Send-Q      Local Address:Port                     Peer Address:Port              
ESTAB      0      0             192.168.0.9:51344                     5.9.250.164:443                
ESTAB      0      0             192.168.0.9:55802                   54.229.105.92:443                
ESTAB      0      0             192.168.0.9:49886                  54.229.110.205:443                
ESTAB      0      0             192.168.0.9:50506                   169.55.69.157:443                
ESTAB      0      0      2a02:c7f:c43f:5200:cd25:bc2b:ad24:2bab:36188                 2400:cb00:2048:1::6819:ab0b:443                
ESTAB      0      0      2a02:c7f:c43f:5200:cd25:bc2b:ad24:2bab:36196              2a00:1450:400c:c07::5b:443                
ESTAB      0      0      2a02:c7f:c43f:5200:cd25:bc2b:ad24:2bab:39512              2a00:1450:400c:c02::71:443       

What does this mean? I'm a netowrking brainlet

Also I didn't want to install net-tools but if it's better than iproute2 here let me know and I'll run netstat instead.

>>61373489
sorry
ss -nta

>>61373515

State      Recv-Q Send-Q      Local Address:Port                     Peer Address:Port              
LISTEN     0      128                     *:22                                  *:*                  
TIME-WAIT  0      0             192.168.0.9:36944                  104.16.120.221:443                
ESTAB      0      0             192.168.0.9:50506                   169.55.69.157:443                
LISTEN     0      128                    :::22                                 :::*                  
TIME-WAIT  0      0      2a02:c7f:c43f:5200:cd25:bc2b:ad24:2bab:44464              2a00:1450:400c:c07::5e:443                
TIME-WAIT  0      0      2a02:c7f:c43f:5200:cd25:bc2b:ad24:2bab:40722                 2400:cb00:2048:1::6810:3df9:443                
ESTAB      0      0      2a02:c7f:c43f:5200:cd25:bc2b:ad24:2bab:57694                 2400:cb00:2048:1::6810:3ef9:443                
ESTAB      0      0      2a02:c7f:c43f:5200:cd25:bc2b:ad24:2bab:56446                 2400:cb00:2048:1::6810:3af9:443                
TIME-WAIT  0      0      2a02:c7f:c43f:5200:cd25:bc2b:ad24:2bab:56464                 2400:cb00:2048:1::6810:3af9:443                
TIME-WAIT  0      0      2a02:c7f:c43f:5200:cd25:bc2b:ad24:2bab:56442                 2400:cb00:2048:1::6810:3af9:443                
TIME-WAIT  0      0      2a02:c7f:c43f:5200:cd25:bc2b:ad24:2bab:60368                2a00:1450:4009:801::2004:443              

>>61373551
so your ntp port is free

>>61373627
Makes sense, I'm not running any ntp processes.

What else could be causing it to fail? I didn't tinker with my firewall or anything. Unless my router is blocking it, but then I don't think it would be giving this kind of error

>>61373644
Do you have ntpdate?

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I'm trying to run this install.sh file to install the driver needed for my USB wireless adaptor but it's not working and says that it's a read only file system. I've tried to change the permissions with chmod but it just says 'read only file system'.

What can I do? I need to run this because it deals with the tarball, which is beyond my level yet.

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>>61373680
The TARGET file system is read only. Use sudo

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Happy second #1500000000 since the epoch, /fgit/!

>>61373668
I do, and running it without -u says ntp socket in use.

>>61373746
Remove ntpdate, or kill it and retry.

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>>61373733
I used sudo sh install.sh , but get this.

>>61373783

C:~\Documents\cpp_stuff> killall -9 ntpdate
ntpdate: no process found
C:~\Documents\cpp_stuff> sudo xbps-remove ntpdate
Package `ntpdate' is not currently installed.

(I think it came in the ntp package)

>>61373816
C?
Are you on an NT OS?

>>61373847
No it's just my prompt, I spent an autistic amount of time ricing my shit before getting the time to work properly.
No I am not a smart person

>>61373902
You riced your shit to look like a NT OS?

Stupid umont it never fucking works. 8 out of 10 times i want to use it it says the device is busy every thought i don't have that directory open in anything, and i can't use lazy umount because the device just remains busy and then i have to reboot that shit
god fucking damn it, i wish it was possible to just kill naything that is causing it to be busy

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>>61373921
Yes

>>61373796
source me a link

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>>61373816
>-9
Stop.

Fuck. Why is GPU passthrough so complicated to set up without uefi? I will have to give up my linux dream like this since i need to use windows heavily ;_;

>The command character can be changed with the esc= option, e.g. esc=p to use Ctrl/P instead of Ctrl/].
>esc=
>esc=p
>Ctrl/P
>Ctrl/]
Can someone tell me what these mean?

>>61374029
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072FJS5MT/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is the piece of shit itself, rlt8821AU is the realtek driver. Googling around and it seems like there's no end of problems with this stuff.

>>61374151
to the drivers goddamnit

>>61374050
Why is -9 bad?

>>61374173
They're on a CD and the link provided as an alternative doesn't work. This is apparently a patched version of the driver https://github.com/Grawp/rtl8812au_rtl8821au

I'm reading about it now but it seems working with it requires me to use all sorts of commands which I don't understand, and I don't want to do that for fear of fucking something up that I can't fix.

>>61374215
http://dustymabe.com/2016/01/24/802-11ac-on-linux-with-netgear-a6100-rtl8811au-usb-adapter/

Link related. This is the 'fix' that I'm trying to understand.

>>61374215
Why is gcc so bloated? It takes hours to compile.

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>>61374215
Here's the most crucial bit.
Follow pic related than sudo make clean install

>>61374177
If a process cannot process the sigkill signal it's starved of memory and becomes unstable.

stop bullying GCC

>>61374263
No process can process the sigkill. They are killed by the kernel.

>>61374299
I will when gcc stops being a fat fuck

>>61374247
So let me just get this straight in my dumb head for a moment. Type all that into my terminal and then 'sudo make clean install' ?

I've been tackling this thing for the last 8 hours and I'm a linux newfag anyway so I'm pretty mindfucked right now.

>>61374431
If you don't want to irreversibly fuck your shit up omit the "install" and just do "make".

>>61374431
>>61374467
It would've been a lot easier if you just made an ISO of the CD and posted it here.

>>61374483
I don't even understand how that would help.

>>61374060
If i buy some cheap GPU which supports uefi does the motherboard also have to support uefi? Because if yes then i'm fucked

>>61374247
When I run that git clone command it just says repository not found.

>>61372278
archwiki pulse alsa

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>>61373745

Based on rec in the last thread, I'm giving Gnome a try. Installed ubuntu gnome, yadda yadda yadda. Looking through the packages I see that gnome (Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components) is not installed. What gives? Is base Gnome installed, but the extra components aren't, therefore it doesn't show as installed?

Anyone else thought about going back to an older Ubuntu version because they werked and werked fine and are still mostly secure? I'm not sure but I think I will try 12.04 or maybe 14.04.

It's not even about systemd before you start that shit, it's just that they got the job done and stayed out of the way. Low resource hit too.

>>61374177
-9 actually kills a process, which is bad, since it doesn't have the time to free its memory, save shit, etc theres no need to use -9 anyway when the program will terminate fine without

>>61374752
12.04 reached end of life

>>61374820
Only recently though. It should be good for a while. No one cares about hacking some anon anyway.

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If you guys are looking for an Office replacement try WPS Office http://wps-community.org/downloads

Is freeware, but from now on there is literally no excuse not to use GNU/Linux exclusively.

>>61374936
>Let's trust a freeware office suite where we are the product, right guise? Just trust me you fucks it'll be fine
No

new thread:
new thread:
new thread:

>>61374467
>>61374247
Thanks for the help, I've got it working although not exactly in the way described here. I would still be fucked without that link and the basic idea though. Anonymous delivered.

I've got a question. I have ffmpeg installed from apt-get but now I need to compile a version which has support for a non-free codec. I don't want to replace my current installation with it tho. Can I run them side by side?

>>61375251
Install gentoo

>>61375051
where?

>>61375269
Here: >>61375511

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I am having an issue with Nvidia and GNOME
about once a second i get a little freeze on my display.

I also haven't found a way to disable panning that will stay on after a reboot. Currently I go into teh driver control panel, set underscan to 30, hit apply, hit advanced, add +30+16 to the bottom setting, hit apply and exit the control panel. This stops the panning until my next reboot. I've saved the config to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf, but that doesn't actually help

card is 1060 6GB, outputting to a TV over HDMI.

using arch(antergos) because I am lazy, but it does the same on my gentoo installation.

I should have bought an AMD card, never had any of this bullshit with my 7870 on open source drivers

>>61375573
>Nvidia
Stop reading there.

>>61375573
webm related. it shows the stuttering here.

Not sure if it shows up in the webm, since it might capture it properly, but stutter on my display.

I can't watch any videos, play games anything. even browsing a webpage is painful, since scrolling is stutery.