/hpg/ - Headphone General

File: 1475518674930.png (686KB, 860x600px) Image search: [Google]

686KB, 860x600px

>>61359929
Idol trash here,
What's your setup like, Anon?

File: brattongue2.jpg (39KB, 267x270px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 267x270px

>>61360106
Modded HD600. My mods pointlessly add an inaudible 0.2 dB to 20 Hz and 20,000 response.

>>61360106
good post

File: smugtooru03.jpg (41KB, 358x373px) Image search: [Google]

41KB, 358x373px

>>61361161
Your opinion that that is a good post is invalid unless you can prove that you actually have the opinion that it is a good post in a double blind test.

>>61361200
good post

>>61361161
good post

File: one true sound.png (61KB, 1000x500px) Image search: [Google]

61KB, 1000x500px

>>61360437
>tfw you bought a shitty DAC and now the -0.2 dB gap at 20 Hz completely ruined your headphones

>>61361272
Nosense aside, notice that flat midrange.
Fucking bliss.

File: 1499032133485.png (633KB, 960x640px) Image search: [Google]

633KB, 960x640px

http://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sennheiser/hd-600

http://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/beyerdynamic/dt-990-pro

>DT 990 Pro is rated better in all usage categories than the HD 600

>b-b-but rtings is """inaccurate"""

File: 1499887488432.jpg (1MB, 1920x2271px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1920x2271px

>>61361400
>rtings
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/beyerdynamic-dt990-250ohm-should-come-with-warning-label.853750/

>>61361428
Like clockwork

File: 1499755560870.png (2MB, 1024x576px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1024x576px

>>61359929
Idol trash approves of chieri OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVkpSlrs2o4

File: 692dd8e75b92c2b4b9ac3aad53d80728.jpg (136KB, 2515x1320px) Image search: [Google]

136KB, 2515x1320px

I know everyone here hates Bluetooth, but I need them cause my phone's headphone jack is shit.

Has anyone tried these? Are they shit?

File: graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=1193&graphID[]=1153&graphID[]=1293&scale=30.png (66KB, 1000x500px) Image search: [Google]

66KB, 1000x500px

>>61361631
>XB
Get ready for some seriously bass heavy headphones, unless they for some reason changed the sound for the XB950s.

File: xb950bt.png (63KB, 1024x581px) Image search: [Google]

63KB, 1024x581px

>>61361713

>>61361713
Oh goddamn it. Would you (or anyone) have any recommendations then? I'm trying to get some that aren't super expensive but it's honestly kinda hard.

File: Sony_MDR-XB950_Center_-_-_HDM-X_-_90_20-20k_-_spl.png (96KB, 620x369px) Image search: [Google]

96KB, 620x369px

>>61361754
>>61361713

>>61361713
Wow...look at that ear raping treble peak, 2db at 9k

>>61361780
I am literally deaf right now

>>61361765
The measurements are showing they're only mildly bass-heavy and a significant departure for the headphones shown in >>61361713
That being said
>bluetooth headphones that aren't shit

Okay so I just bought some Bose QC35 as a pair of NC on the go headphones, should I have gotten the Sony MDR1000X instead? Currently they both cost 350 USD

File: 1495757646034.jpg (131KB, 900x1241px) Image search: [Google]

131KB, 900x1241px

>>61362138
>bose QC35
Literally botnet.

File: sofuckingsmug.jpg (78KB, 593x663px) Image search: [Google]

78KB, 593x663px

>>61362138
>Bose

Are ATH-SR5's worth $170AUD/$130USD?

>>61362575
Satania a cute. A cute!!

>>61362711
>on-ear
Disgusting.

>>61362724
I post her just for you these days.

>>61362711
>on-ear
>$50
No.

>>61362575
>>61362233
Give me a better Noise Cancelling headphone then, they all suck but whats the better option?

>>61362806
Etymotic MK5
Passively blocks more sound than the Bose while sounding far better.
Etymotic ER-4SR if you feel like spending the cash.

File: 51Ryepo--oL._SY450_.jpg (29KB, 410x450px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 410x450px

Anyone know if the Akai Professional Project 50X is worth the price? They're currently 25 dollars.

Are Audioquest Nighthawks good value for money?

>>61362852
>Etymotic

Ear dildos AND treble rape

>>61362852
>passive
no. I need something that can actually block jet engine noise.

Anyone here use an LG V20 as their PMP??

>>61362743
>>61362777
What about the ATH-A550Z?

>>61362711
HD-25

>>61362968
Etymotics can block jet engine noise better than active noise canceling. Yes, really.

>>61363549
This is an accurate statement:
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BoseQuietComfort35WiredActive.pdf
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/EtymoticER4SR.pdf
The Etys block out 5 dB more sound in the bass and mids and 15 dB more sound in the treble according to these measurements.

>>61363666
>that raw frequency response on the Etys
My dick. That is what perfection looks like in raw graph form.

File: 1481036044734.jpg (351KB, 875x900px) Image search: [Google]

351KB, 875x900px

>>61363687
For a non-dildo version, look at HD600.

>>61363743
What about HD650? Is there big difference?

>>61363826
Less neutral.
It deliberately does darker treble, more bass. It's made for people who prefer that signature.

>>61362923
>treble rape
That's Beyerdynamic you're thinking of. Etymotic treble is accurate and peak-free at proper insertion depth.

>>61363687
>zero treble

File: mugibullshit.jpg (347KB, 729x676px) Image search: [Google]

347KB, 729x676px

>>61363981

>>61364039 >>61363981
>literally no treble!!1oneoneeleven

File: graphCompare.php?graphType=-2&graphID[]=733&graphID[]=743&scale=30.png (62KB, 1000x500px) Image search: [Google]

62KB, 1000x500px

>>61364039
The 4S does it better. Basically a perfect diffuse field curve. 4P is too laid-back.

>>61364096
I agree, and I haven't posted a 4P.

File: Etymotic Research ER4SR - er4s raw.png (47KB, 640x444px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 640x444px

>>61364096
Also, I'm not sure if you're implying ER-4S > ER-4SR but that'd be wrong; they measure the same, and the SR's metal construction is greatly welcomed.

>>61364125
Well fuck my shit up, I was looking up innerfidelity's FR for the ER-4S, only got the 4P instead and then thought that was the one linked here.
>>61364157
iF's measuring is off, then - you can see the 7-8 kHz valley in your pic being on the same level as the bass and midrange with the 9-10 kHz peak being roughly +4 dB, but iF have that whole part around 4 dB lower, the 10 kHz peak there doesn't meet the 100 - 1000 Hz line.

>>61364210
>iF's measuring is off
I don't think we can safely make assumptions as to which measurement is "off."
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/technologically-impressive-lcd-4-planar-magnetic-headphone-manufacturers-comments
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/head-fi-contradicts-innerfidelity-sony-mdr-z1r-measurements
tl;dr: It's not uncommon for measurements by different people/equipment to differ drastically and there's a lot of potential reasons for this. It's complicated.

File: xej58.jpg (202KB, 400x2170px) Image search: [Google]

202KB, 400x2170px

>>61364096
4S lacks treble to be a perfect diffuse field. The 4B is the perfect diffuse field model but it's too bright for music playback.

>>61364229
Yes, diffuse field perfection is bright sounding. The Sony MDR-V6 is actually about as close as headphones come to a perfect diffuse field tuning and they are bright sounding.

>>61359929
I'm looking for a decent studio reference headphones for music production
Over ear
Budget: <€100

I have been looking at the Ath-m50x but not too sure.

>>61364370
Status CB-1

Best wired earbuds for $50-$100

GO

>>>/c/2913881
Nice collection of possible future /hpg/ OP images.

>>61364814
Etymotic MK5

>>61364840
Reviews look good. Thanks mandingo

>>61364814
VE Monk Plus
Soundmagic E10/30/50/80
Tennmak Pro
Mee M6 Pro
ZS5 with new tips
MK5

File: bratquestion.jpg (181KB, 640x543px) Image search: [Google]

181KB, 640x543px

What's the second best headphone behind the HD600?

>>61365586
HD 600.
HD 580 was first.

These threads always went to the shitter when Senn shills are awake.

>>61365653
This

>Budget
$3000, can MAAAYBE stretch to $4000
>Location
USA
>Source
Magni 2
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Not a pussy
>Sound signature
Neutral, slightly dark/slightly recessed treble. Good to excellent sound stage.
>Past headphones
HD600, K701. HD600 needs a 5db dip at 6K and 9K to be non fatiguing for me.

>>61365934
>Magni 2

You're not even driving your HD600 to its max potential yet.

>>61365945
I don't believe this meme sorry.

>>61365934
>HD600 needs a 5db dip at 6K and 9K to be non fatiguing for me.
That's funny, seeing as it doesn't have treble peaks there: >>61361272

>>61366029
I know. It's most likely my personal HRTF.

>>61366046
If you try to compensate by getting a headphone with more relaxed treble then you'll be missing out on detail in the surrounding frequencies. Precise HRTF-tuned EQ is honestly a superior solution to buying another headphone with more relaxed treble, but it's your money.

>>61366064
I use EQ already and enjoy my HD600s EQ'd. But at the same time I'm not too happy with the soundstage, it's too narrow for my taste.

>>61366093
EQ your K701s?

>>61366106
I can't manage to wrangle them to something acceptable.

At least half of my desire to get TOTL headphones is for build quality and feel.

>>61366127
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/how-to-automatically-eq-your-headphones-to-online-measurements-a-step-by-step-guide.854773/ try this on your K701 while you wait for new cans. It might get you close enough to where you can get it acceptable through Sinegen high frequency filter refinement.

What are some recommended dacs that can just about power anything. I was looking into getting either a nfb-11 or jotunheim,. are there any alternatives, or are either of those worth the price?
Thank you for your time!

>>61366163
I've haven't tried this method but I doubt it would be better than sonarworks (which I found entirely lacking). I'll give it a shot over the weekend and see what happens.

>>61366185
I had an Aune X1S for a few months, it worked pretty well.
It supports 348kHz 32-bit PCM, as well as DSD128 in DoP format.

>>61366188
>Sonarworks
Interesting. Did you try refining their EQ settings via Sinegen? I can't imagine a service like that would work well if you don't further refine their filters to your own HRTF with something like Sinegen.

>>61366219
/r/avexchange faggot
>>61366185
NFB-11's pretty neat for a DAC/amp combo, Jot is a meme.

>>61366273
Nah, I didn't. But I balked when I heard what it did with the HD600 (not EQ'd at the time) and uninstalled the software. I later found through trial and error my treble sensitive points.

>>61366347
Yeah, treble response EQ absolutely requires Sinegen filter refinement. Even in-ear probe mic measurements or measurements by dummy heads made with molds of your own ears aren't enough to EQ treble response alone as they won't account for acoustic impedance mismatches between transducer, ear canal and ear drum which can create treble peaks that even the probe mics won't pick up.

>>61362882
They are not. I don't have them but I am looking for a pair of cheaper headphones that I can use in areas with lots of sandniggers and other high-risk situations where I don't want to wear expensive headphones.

Just look at all the one-star reviews on Amazon for these, a whole lot of people give reviews - with pictures - that say that these fall apart after just weeks of normal usage. Big red flag right there.

100$ Canadian budget, wanting to get some decent consumer headphones for a ton of music listening/watching streams/movies/video games preferrably with a removable cord as I will be wearing this pretty much all the time when I'm in the house and I'm sure wear and tear will have a toll.


Is the best I can get the AKG K240s?

>>61367271
Look into the SHP9500S.

>>61367271
CB-1

I have a Fiio E10k. Should I go with DT770 Pro 80s or 250s? I'm using HD600s atm but I tried a different headset with better highs and it sounded a lot better, and which are isolated. So... 80 ohm, or 250? What do you prefer? I also play a lot of CS and audio directional games.

File: jvc.jpg (103KB, 894x1500px) Image search: [Google]

103KB, 894x1500px

First time here.


>Budget
Up to 60€ I guess

>Location
Portugal, so... Europe.

>Source
The usual: laptop, PC, straight from shitty soundcards.

>Type of headphone
Full-sized.

>Open or closed
Still not sure, look below. I will also need to transport them quite a bit.

>Comfort level
I just need the headphones not to crush or sever my ears. I don't know if closed/open will influence this.

>Sound signature
Neutral, I guess. I just need more bass than the common cheap IEM usually offers.

>Past headphones
I don't remember the model. They were JVC's and cost me about 60€. Pic related not correct, but looked like it.

What I hated about them was that it dug into my head and after a couple of hours my head and ears were really tired.

Why does this idol trash have so much bass?

>>61361713
I mean what do you expect from a headphone marketed as eXtra Bass? They're not trying to deceive or fool you, they're being completely honest about what you're getting.

>>61367271
>>61367579
This

Though if you don't mind waiting from china you can get the Somic MM185 (The Status Audio CB-1 is a clone). The MM185 only ships from china from what I see though.

NVX XPT100 or the Spadger CD 990(open version) are also good options.

I own the XPT100 and it's max comfy.

>>61367764
The general consensus is that the higher Ohm Beyers sound better (with the 600 Ohm sounding the best) but the trade-off is that you need a serious enough amp to drive a 600 ohm or it's not even going to sound as good as an 80 ohm. The E10k should drive the 250 fine, so unless you find the 80 significantly cheaper I'd recommend the 250 to you.

File: mmexport1500031698658.jpg (65KB, 1280x626px) Image search: [Google]

65KB, 1280x626px

Why do people do this?

Are they just retarded?

>>61369490
Holy shit, you're fucking rich.
Can you buy me an X-6 DAC?

My headphones are out of phase.
How can I fix this?

Would Sonarworks do a good job of making my DT 880s less bright?

Is it just me or are the DT990s muddy? I'm not getting a lot of instrumental separation, everything just kinda blends together.

File: P_500[1].jpg (30KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 500x500px

>>61359929
any decent sound card recommendations?
i have been using a pair of fidelio x2's but i think i could do better than just on-board audio that i've been using

looks like any of the ones around $30 - $50
could get the job done but i don't know which one to trust desu

>>61371446
Get an external dac+amp solution and call it a day.
Most of these internal soundcards aren't worth bothering with.
I suggest the Schiit Fulla2, but there's also the somewhat cheaper DAC-X6. Both of these have nice functionality, and will easily perform better than any onboard or internal soundcard.

>>61371709
>better than any onboard
Bullshit. I bet you won't notice any difference between modern Realtek and external DAC.

File: IMG_20170714_192526.jpg (148KB, 764x1091px) Image search: [Google]

148KB, 764x1091px

What headphones are these?

>>61372096
dre's black cock bassraping your ears

>>61367550
Thanks, ended up picking up the SHP9500S on Newegg for only 80$

Need an amp for under $50 USD. Any recommendations? Using sennheiser gsp 300.

>>61371836
It's easy to notice the difference between onboard sound on my laptop and desktop and Fulla 2

>>61372361
Are you sure it's not your amp which causes this difference?

>>61370171
Possibly; possibly not. The way your ears hear the treble peaks may not correspond to Sonarworks' measurements. Sinegen removal of treble peaks is the preferred option; https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/how-to-automatically-eq-your-headphones-to-online-measurements-a-step-by-step-guide.854773/ explains how.
>>61370520
It's not just you. The DT990's midbass response (midbass = "mud") is significantly stronger than its midrange response. The DT990's overbearing treble doesn't really demud most of the instruments, it just makes cymbals too loud.
You need a more prominent midrange for the majority of instruments to stand out. You should try something more accurate like an HD600.

>>61371446
Get an external dac+amp so you have an analog volume knob. Digital (software) volume control lowers signal to noise ratio: http://www.esstech.com/files/3014/4095/4308/digital-vs-analog-volume-control.pdf

>>61372530
>You should try something more accurate like an HD600.
disregarded the entire post

File: hd600dt990.png (76KB, 630x978px) Image search: [Google]

76KB, 630x978px

>>61372559
I'm sorry, but I don't believe anyone stated, "Snapheiser troll, please shitpost in reply to this post."
You will now shitpost about Goldenears.

>>61372655
This is some esoteric shitposting.

Should I buy the AKG K845 BT?
It's in the newest Persona game

>>61372655
>DT990 is so bad its treble middle finger literally says "fuck you" to your ears while it rapes you with its big black niggerbass cock

>>61372808
>big black niggerbass cock

kekd

>>61372655
>any argument that doesn't fit my biases is shit posting
Sasuga snapshill.

>>61372246
Build a Classic 47 and get a decent power supply.

>>61371836
>bullshit
My onboard is totally fucked, with the noise floor in the sky.

>>61363687
I think upper middle range bump is too much. It's already quite forward on HD600 esp with female vocals so more might be an overboard.

File: Screen Shot 2017-07-14 at 19.11.25.png (97KB, 1136x450px) Image search: [Google]

97KB, 1136x450px

>>61365934
Audeze LCD-2/3, existing sub bass, flat response all the way to the 1k where it gradually drops avoiding your problematic areas. Also smoothest voices I've ever heard on any headphone. Also dat driver matching.

File: 1480604241770.png (2MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1920x1080px

>>61373312
Idol trash here.
Can confirm female vocals sound really good on HD600.

>>61373400
How is the soundstage? And is the LCD-3 worth the extra price?

>>61373400
Only problem for you will be that they lack soundstage and are closer to HD600, altho better in that regard. If I didn't score a good single flat I would have gone with LCD after saving up, but I rather now get a pair of monitors now then getting a 1k pair of headphones, I have HD600.

>>61362806
>Etymotic MK5
also:
>Sony MDR-1000x
>Sennheiser PXC 550

>>61360106
weekend 600+fulla2+magni bro back again. Been messing around with my EQ lately and even though the 600 sounds incredible on it's own, IO think I've settled for 3+DB extra sub bass.Non bassy sounds still sound pure and clean, but it adds that tiny little more body.

>>61373433
see
>>61373464
I only tried LCD 2, but I really liked them and bass was incredible, clean and not overblown, electronic music really sounded incredible on them.
>>61373405
They sound real good, but with time I started to understood why some people would go for HD650, not even for bass but that upper midrange can fatigue some especially on female vocals, altho I love it since it makes them very forward but harsh depending on song.

>>61373526
>>61360106
My keyboard is fucking retarded. Meant to say that non bassy songs still sound pure and clean with the EQ on.

File: 1479499901969.png (915KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

915KB, 1280x720px

>>61373526
Idol trash here,
I'll confess to playing with some niggerbass eq lately, too.
>>61373528
Midrange isn't that forward. AIUI the HD650 has more forward midrange, which would make them even worse.
Voices shouldn't be fatiguing. Are you using healthy low volumes, Anon? If you're any higher than between 8 and 12 o'clock on magni2's low gain, you're doing it wrong.

>>61365934
HD800 + EQ

>>61363826
650 is pretty much a slightly more muddy 600. It's pretty pointless really.

>>61373666
Not HD800S, which is free of the resonance issue?

>>61373698
HD800 is a better candidate for equalization since its bass response is less distorted and it's significantly more affordable. HD800S is a better buy if you're not going to EQ, but HD800 is a better buy if you are.
In any case, HD800 would satisfy his cravings for soundstage (its soundstage is unparalleled) as well as TOTL build quality/feel.

>>61365945
You have to be kidding. The magni powers nearly everything properly, especially the 600's.

>>61373577
> Midrange isn't that forward. AIUI the HD650 has more forward midrange,
Wat? Compared to Beyers and AKG HD600 have the most forward midrange/lower treble. Voices are not fatiguing for me, but sometimes waifu's sining on high octave comes very close to my ears which I enjoy but for example >>61365934 will find too fatiguing. I don't really listen on high volumes I don't even reach 8, altho I set up volume on my mac to 100 as instructed.

>>61372559
>the 600 isn't accurate

lmao

>>61373577
>If you're any higher than between 8 and 12 o'clock on magni2's low gain

Not him but with my 600 I easily go past that, especially with my +3db EQ. I wouldn't consider myself a loud listener either, unless I'm completely pissed. Maybe it depends on the source, most of my listening is via spotify premium.

Where do I get an Idol trash boyfriend?

>>61373854
*producer

I just upgraded from a HD558 to a STAX SRS-3100 kit.

Will a simple DAC like Schiit Modi-2 improve the listening experience?

>>61373865
Producer?
No I mean I want to hold hands with Idol Trash IN PUBLIC.

>>61374026
>hold hands with Idol Trash IN PUBLIC
this is haram

>>61373956
Maybe, but Modi 2 is overpriced for a standalone DAC. https://hifimediy.com/sabre-dac-uae23 is demonstrably transparent through objective measurements.

File: IMG_0524.png (2MB, 2208x1242px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2208x1242px

Budget - $100-200
Source - iPhone 7 (sometimes my desktop but it doesn't have any better sound stuff than my iPhone)
Isolation - I'm not super concerned about this. I mostly would use them at home or waiting on something at school. I don't want the sound to leak out that much though.
Will you be using these headphones in public? - Sometimes, but not normally. Still, I'd rather have closed-back.
Preferred type of headphone - Over-ear/full-sized
Preferred tonal balance - I like a decent bass, but I want all the other tones to have a nice balance too, close to what the original recording intends. I don't want the high tones to be rough. I also like decent soundstage.
Past headphones - Apple EarPods, Logitech G430, and Sennheiser 598 Cs. I got these Sennheisers just the other day. I've been listening to them, and I just don't like them that much. It's simply not bass-y enough. Also the high tones are really rough, especially for the music I listen to (post-rock, which is noisy af oftentimes; more description below). I plan on returning these headphones, because they don't really feel like they do much more than the Apples I'm used to. The mid range for these Sennheisers is probably better quality, as well as the soundstage, but the bass is not there, and the high tones are too rough.
Preferred music - I love post-rock. I just about exclusively listen to that. It's a very noisy genre with lots of guitar synthesizers hitting some really high tones. Examples: MONO, Mogwai, GY!BE, This Will Destroy You, Grails.
What would you like to improve on from your set-up? - I want more bass, but not too much. Just a nice power to it that comes through on all songs. I do not want something where the high tones take over and rape my ears, drowning out the rest of the music.
I thought about getting a pair of AT M50x's to compare to these Sennheiser 598 Cs's I have. Will that give me what I'm lacking? Any other recommendations? Also do I need an amp?

Does stretching out my headphones really make the headphone clamp less? I have the hifi2050 and it makes no difference

>>61374163
DT250 80 ohm

File: b0l7vayiw00y.png (19KB, 753x374px) Image search: [Google]

19KB, 753x374px

>>61374163
>598C
>not bassy enough
Fucking what? That's pretty damn bassy.

Noobie here, the HD600 has 300ohms which is the amount of resistance, so what would I have to look in an amp so they can drive this headphones at full capacity?

>>61374225
>300 ohms which is the amount of resistance
You can't just look at the ohm rating to judge a headphone's sensitivity. Fulla2 is you want USB power or Magni2 to power most headphones without a hitch.

>>61374091
Idol Trash deserves to be happy.

>>61374284
Why not? I shows the resistance so I would need a amp that can have enough voltage to power it to full volume. Also any amp can power any headphone technically

>>61373956
>from HD558 to SRS3100
Daths da speret, how are they and why STAX?

>>61373666
>>61373738
The HD800 is well within my budget, so I may pick those up along with an elear. The elear seem to be the sound signature I'm looking for (other than the 10K spike) but some people say it doesn't have good soundstage.

>>61374311
AKG K612 is 120 ohms and the K712 is 62 ohms but that doesn't mean they're any less sensitive than the HD 600.

>>61374363
but it means the hd600 has higher resistance to the voltage current, implies it would require more voltage to increase the volume

>>61374163
The problem with the 598Cs is that it uses inferior drivers. If you buy a pair of normal open back 598s you'll hear a world of difference (and I'd recommend it for home use, people will only hear stuff if you're listening to it very loud or they are very close)
As for closed with good bass, look into Sony. I can't recommend a specific model off the top of my head but they make good headphones and have an XB series so they know what they're doing in terms of bass.

>>61374476
Or the bassier HD599.

File: 2017-07-14_19-35-21.png (260KB, 376x364px) Image search: [Google]

260KB, 376x364px

what are these ATH? I've seen them used for commentary for everything spanning from real sports to esports, but they don't look like the BPHS1

>>61374091 >>61374026
https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2012/02/03/idol-otaku-inflict-semen-handshake-on-akb48/

I'm a big guy

>>61374498
Yeah, considering he wants bass the HD598 really isn't the best headphone for him.
I mean I absolutely love my HD598s to death but they are not a bassy headphones. It's there when you absolutely need it but it will never really hit you.

>>61374498
HD579 has virtually identical FR and costs considerably less.

File: mdrv6.png (106KB, 361x382px) Image search: [Google]

106KB, 361x382px

Can anyone make a HD 600 version of this pic?

>>61374312

Actually heard HD800s at a friend's place and got determined to upgrade my set. HD800 or HD800s were expensive and STAX fit my budget and didn't wanted to get HD600/HD650.

STAX are amazing and i can sense the level of detail that i never could with the HD558.

>>61374712
>sense the level of detail

Well yeah, you owned mudhesiers that completely remove any detail from your music

>>61365934
LCD X

>>61374363
>>61374390
K612 is MUCH harder to drive than HD600.

File: beeb.jpg (129KB, 470x329px) Image search: [Google]

129KB, 470x329px

>>61374711
Here you go.

>>61374712
>>61374748
>confusing treble with detail

File: magni2uber-board-1920.jpg (196KB, 1580x1080px) Image search: [Google]

196KB, 1580x1080px

>Less than $4 of components
>20 cent PCB
>$5 enclosure
>Costs $99

How does schiit get away with this?

File: _0002_rgb_MP1F2-RGB-thrqtrlft_V2.png (393KB, 1976x1360px) Image search: [Google]

393KB, 1976x1360px

The Beats by Dr. Dre Studio 2.0 Wireless is the best pair of headphones on the market right now?
>Wireless with 12 hour battery life
>Noise cancelling
>Bass heavy for today's music, not music of 50 years ago
>Fashionable and street-ready
Can the HD600 even compete?

>>61374818
The Beats Studio, on the other hand, is much easier.

>>61374992
the DT990s are the most detailed headphones in the world

>>61375085
Wrong. It is the Beats Studio 2.0 Wireless.

>>61375018
>THANK YOU NN, RS, JL, TP, AN, JA
What did he mean by this

>Budget
up to 400€
>Location
Europe
>Source
fioo OLYMPUS 2-E10K from my macbook
>Type of headphone
Overear
>Open or closed
dont mind
>Past headphones
currently on HD558, theyre okay but want something with an more open sound

>>61375018
>>Less than $4 of components
You could link to the BoM, since you made one. It wouldn't hurt to share it.
>>20 cent PCB
>>$5 enclosure
It's difficult, but it might be possible to get it down to that cheap by making these in China, but keep in mind they assemble the devices themselves, buy the parts in the US, and have the boards and enclosures made in local stores (not china).

>>61375382
Teak or M1060

>>61375382
instead of headphones you can also recoomend an external soundcard or something thatll get the 558 experience better

>>61375382
The natural upgrade from HD5xx is HD600. Your 400€ can buy it.

>>61375382
HD600

>>61375402
>spending more money on amps/dacs than transducers
Oh please, he's already got a couple Fiio devices.

>>61375382
>more open
look into the higher range Beyers. Since the T90 are now discontinued you might find them in your budget price.
If you're really sensitive to treble and would rather not EQ them, go with HD600, avoid the 650.

>>61367977
Takstar HI2050

>>61375446
>look into the higher range Beyers
Terrible advice. They're downgrades from DT880, which is already a bad headphone.

>>61375492
cool meme

>>61375492
DT990 are even cheaper than the DT880. Beyer is well aware of this.

anyone have experience with shure se series? thinking about getting the 315

>>61375388
>You could link to the BoM, since you made one. It wouldn't hurt to share it.

it's just some capacitors, resistors and transistors

>>61376003
So that $4 was an asspull? Why am I not surprised.

>>61375492
>implying
If you think the DT880s are raping the HD600 now, just wait until they release the DT1880. I work at beyer, and they've removed the treble spike. The FR is dead flat based on diffuse field, free field, and harman. 3 versions of the headphone. Sennheiser is finished.

>>61376027
an educated guess

they order those parts in enough quantity to get the price down low

>>61376029
OK but what about quality control?

>>61376080
No more plastic hinges. Machined steel and aluminum the whole way. Cups are still part plastic for acoustic reasons. Think of the black DT880 but with oval cups (they increased the height and left the width the same) and thicker pads.

>>61376078
They still buy everything and manufacture it all in the US, cutting their margins in the process.
The chink amp makers (fiio et al) must be swimming in profits.

>>61375406
>>61375406
>>61375402
>>61375392

So if id get the HD600, what else could I get to make it even better? Or would it make more sense to pick better headphones

>>61376138
>pay some illegals to put some thru hole components in to boards and screw in some pcbs

>>61376029
>I work at beyer, and they've removed the treble spike.
Hard to take you at your word, but would honestly love it if you were actually right.
>The FR is dead flat based on diffuse field, free field, and harman. 3 versions of the headphone.
Assuming you're right (I'll take a wait and see approach, if the DT1880 is awesome I'll ofc buy it), then HD600 will have some competition at last.
Of course, pricing would be a factor, but it's much better if there's competition than not.
>Sennheiser is finished.
This includes the assumption they're sitting on their asses doing nothing, which I doubt is the case. Again, I hope you're right and DT1880 doesn't suck. That might actually force Sennheiser to progress past its 1997 HD600.

>>61376029
>I work at beyer,
Timestamped proof please, like an ID card

>>61374220
not for what I listen to

>>61376148
>So if id get the HD600, what else could I get to make it even better?
A magni2 might help as e10k is a bit tight for the HD600. It's by all means not _necessary_ however.
>Or would it make more sense to pick better headphones
Better than HD600? Good luck with that. Nothing except some ear-dildos is actually more accurate out of the box than HD600.
HD800 is supposedly better when EQ'd (not out of the box) but it's way out of your budget.

>>61376187
It's going to start at $600. The different curves are done by damping the back of the cups differently. Based on the prototypes, the Harman tuned one has the largest soundstage, almost HD800 levels. The reason all the recent beyer headphones have been shit is that they're basically placeholder models for the DT1880. Very little actual research has gone into them.
>>61376200
Lol I ain't gonna get fired for your shitty proof.

File: sennheiser hd601.png (71KB, 1000x500px) Image search: [Google]

71KB, 1000x500px

>>61376029
>If you think the DT880s are raping the HD600 now, just wait until they release the DT1880. I work at beyer, and they've removed the treble spike. The FR is dead flat based on diffuse field, free field, and harman. 3 versions of the headphone. Sennheiser is finished.

I work at Sennheiser, we've listened to our fans and removed all treble from the successor of the HD 600 because they kept complaining that treble was too fatiguing to listen to

>>61376029
>free field
Strains credulity.

>>61376262
headphone of the century right there

>>61376292
Basically after the initial driver and housing was developed (basically turned to the diffuse field curve), different teams were assigned to tune the headphone to different sound sigs. The least money was spent on the free field team because as youd expect, it's projected to sell the least.

>>61376351
Cool LARPing bro.

>>61376371
lol, once it's released you're gonna be incredibly embarassed

>>61376376
>once it's released

JUST WAIT(TM)

>>61376242
>shitty proof
nigga just blank out your name and photo

>>61376376
>I'm going to be embarrassed because of things I said anonymously on an anonymous Indonesian pictograph message board
Riiiiight. If Beyer makes a superior headphone to the HD600 I'll recommend it because I recommend based on sound quality, not brand loyalty. That's why I recommend HD600 right now; because current Beyers are shitty retard treble cannons.

File: rtings.png (98KB, 731x972px) Image search: [Google]

98KB, 731x972px

>>61376403
>shitty retard treble cannons
>best headphones

really makes you think

>>61376437
>>61361428

>>61376446
Not an argument

File: 1496755764966.png (968KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

968KB, 1280x720px

>>61376437
>rtings

>>61376461
Not an argument

>>61376467
>>61376479
Not an argument.

>>61376397
Nahhhh.
>>61376403
You know what you said lol

>>61376029
tl;dr: Beyer shill literally admits to being a Beyer employee.

>>61376227
what about the audio files? I got tidal right now

>>61376461
>>61376479
Your mom.

>>61376519
I'm not shilling. You'll see my dude. Y'all are gonna be begging me to get some of these DT1880s

>>61376530
IFA 2017?

>>61376530
>I'm not shilling
Cool story, bro.
>You'll be begging me to get some DT1880
If they're good and they're not asking a fortune for them, I'll simply buy them.

But... what are the odds. :^)

File: smugtooru02.jpg (57KB, 455x465px) Image search: [Google]

57KB, 455x465px

>>61376437
>rtings

>>61376538
Nah, there's going to be a special event hosted by beyer for it. Expect it December or early 2018.
>>61376548
Lol, first six months they'll only be available as a DT880 upgrade program. Good luck dude.

>>61376675
>tales of beyer's future glory. Gotta buy them DT880s while they're hot!
These paid beyer shills try too hard.

>>61376699
It's your loss dude.

File: 1469899847494.png (2MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1920x1080px

>>61376716
>Buy beyer crap!
>Beyer shill promises you'll be able to upgrade to beyer shit in the future
>for free!
>it'll be awesome!
Heh.

>>61376758
>for free
Nope. It's going to be $450 for trade in and $600 for new purchase. Our financial sector has projected the resale price to probably be around $1300. I personally nabbed a bunch of 880s at company prices in preparation lol

>>61376796
Do tell more.

>>61376806
I think I've already covered everything. Pricing obviously isn't set in stone.

>>61376796
>It's going to be $450 for trade in and $600 for new purchase.
Hell. Fuck waiting for something so uncertain, I'm getting HD600 now at $280.

>>61376825
The 600s hold their value well so they should be enough to tide you over. I do suggest selling before the DT1880s hit the market cause I expect there are going to be a lot of people trying to get rid of their 600s once that happens.

>>61376029
>beyer to release headphones that aren't outright treblerape
>says beyershill, no sources other than himself
>we are asked to believe he's working at beyer, and that they let shills have important critical business inteligence
>it's supposed to be a HD600 killer
Ayy.

>>61376872
Lol I'm not a shill, I work in IT. I'm friends with a couple of the sound engineers tho

I've seen more credible LARPers discussing aliens and lizard people on /pol/ than this fruitcake.

>>61376943
Then why are you so mad? Buy some stocks in beyer, trust me ;)

>>61374163
I'm this guy, would my problem be solved by an amplifier? because otherwise they sound great

>>61377099
I think what you need, unironically, are Beats.

>>61377099
I'd say to get HD579 and a Schiit Fulla 2.
>598Cs
Literally garbage. Universally hated. Return or sell them.

>>61374163
DT 990

>>61377242
He said he wants more bass than 598Cs. That means HD579 is a poor recommendation and Beats are unironically a good recommendation.

>>61377288
A: these don't have any more bass than 598Cs
B: these have way too much treble so they'll sound even less bassy than 598Cs
C: these are fucking shit in general

>>61377308
HD579 is basically a HD598 (the good one, not the Cs) but improved, with way more bass.
Since it's open and the FR is so much better, it should solve his other issue too (garbage sound, independent of bass).

>>61374163
Beats or Sony XB series.

>>61377344
HD579 has less bass than the headphones he's saying he wants more bass than.

>>61377329
They score highly on the rtings curve which has an emphasis on bass

File: kumiko.webm (952KB, 1294x1080px) Image search: [Google]

952KB, 1294x1080px

>>61377392
>rtings

>>61377380
He might believe he doesn't have enough bass, but considering it's the HD598C, his problem really really really isn't the bass, but rather, EVERYTHING.
>598Cs
Godawful garbage tier headphones.

>>61377416
Kumiko a cute. A cute!!
(Personally, I prefer reina. But kumiko isn't at all bad)

>>61377427
>I want more bass
>NO YOU DON'T THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT INSTEAD
Stop. You're making the more reasonable among us who sometimes recommend Sennheisers look bad. The man desires niggerbass. Respect that.

File: 1485854343313.png (340KB, 640x720px) Image search: [Google]

340KB, 640x720px

Newbie here

Budget - $100 - $250
Location - USA
Source - Desktop and Iphone
Type of headphone - Over Ear
Open or Closed - Closed
Sound signature - Neutral
Past Headphones - ATH M50

I mostly just use it for gaming and listening to music Id prefer no sound leak since ill be bringing it to public. I'm willing to just buy a headphone exclusively for listening but id rather have a headphone for multiple uses.

>"you have some expensive headphones anon, what kind of music do you listen to?"
would you show your anime music collection?

>>61377487
>closed
>neutral
>that price range
>source: iPhone
DT250 80 ohm is literally the only option.

>>61377494
Anime enthusiast who doesn't listen to anime music here. I'd gladly show my eclectic mix of rock, jazz, reggae and country.

>>61377487
Sweet, another image I can ask what the second best headphone behind HD600 is with.

>>61377494
You bet I do. My collection isn't even that big but when you scroll through 500GBs in musicbee it sure as hell looks that way.

>Budget
$50-$200
>Location
USA
>Source
LG V20, on board sound from PC
>Type of headphone
In ear
>Open or closed
No preference
>Comfort level
Comfy would be nice.
>Sound signature
Neutral, slightly dark/slightly recessed treble. Good to excellent sound stage.
>Past headphones
HD598

If you could recommend an amp/dac for my computer too that would be awesome.

>>61377726
Hey, you copied my post!

>>61377726
Etymotic HF5
Fiio E10k would be sufficient for HD598s.

File: stock-photo-overweight-man-sitting-on-the-couch-with-a-beer-glass-and-remote-control-24916858.jpg (410KB, 1500x1190px) Image search: [Google]

410KB, 1500x1190px

>Oh hey bro are those your new headphones you spent a lot on? Let me try them.
What do?

>>61377798
try on this dikk first cuccboi

>>61377487
>>61377509
k240 or k271
http://graphs.headphone.com/index.php?graphID%5B0%5D=573&graphID%5B1%5D=2611&graphID%5B2%5D=2901&graphID%5B3%5D=1473&scale=20&graphType=0&buttonSelection=Update+Graph
>>61377726
>in-ear
>comfort
Complicated. I'd look into ER4SR, but ear dildos and comfort/long wearing aren't very compatible.

>>61377851
>K240
Niggerbass.
>K271
Nobass.

I think my Superlux HD 668B are mostly great, aside from their comfort. /hpg/, name some headphones that will surely make me consider paying the N× difference in price.

>>61377851
>k240
That's semi-open.

>>61377874
Just get a SHP9500 and be done with it. They outclass the shit out of HD668b and are now the default >$100 rec. You'd have to buy an HD600 to get something significantly superior.

>>61377864
>k240 Niggerbass.
But less so than the M50, and thus, more neutral.
>k271 Nobass
Bass is present, but somewhere around 6dB weaker than harman, instead of some 6dB stronger than harman as k240 is.

>>61377874
Unless you're willing to go all the way up to HD600, you should look at HD579 or SHP9500.

>>61377931
Your own graph shows K271 has literally 21 dB less bass than Harman target. It has no bass.

File: 1494465855018.png (14KB, 255x410px) Image search: [Google]

14KB, 255x410px

Scrolling through this thread after the /pmp/ thread died and it looks like a lot of people here have a problem with Beyer
I own the dt770 32 ohm and dt880 250 ohm and I'm very happy with both of them, can someone explain the "dt880 is a bad headphone" statement to me?

>>61378055
It's mainly butthurt Sennheiser owners

>>61378055
DT770/880/990 have too much treble and no mids from an objective standpoint. They are objectively bad. You may subjectively like their sound, and that's fine, but they are objectively bad. That doesn't mean they're bad for you. That just means that they're not accurate by any objective definition.

>>61378107
>too much treble

>>61378107
"bad" is a prescription of value, thus your description is inaccurate. Inaccurate being an acceptable but not wholly descriptive or helpful term to describe the beyer sound signature.

File: 1499564209326.jpg (926KB, 1541x954px) Image search: [Google]

926KB, 1541x954px

>>61378124
That's correct.

File: hd 600 treble rape.png (42KB, 630x489px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 630x489px

>>61378146

File: smugasuza.png (81KB, 250x228px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 250x228px

>>61378183

>>61378190
>t. false flagging Beyershill

>>61378107
The dt770s are a v-shaped sound sig and not super accurate so your criticisms of it are probably valid. I've heard the same about the dt990s. However the dt880s are almost always described as extremely accurate with a very flat sound signature and this matches up very well to my experience with them.
My preference for clear highs does factor into my personal judgement of them but I don't see the dt880s as being an objectively bad headphone.
As an aside, I tried the meme hd598s and found the highs to be really rolled off and I could barely use those without being frustrated by the veil

>>61359929
>>61360106
>>61360437
>>61361200
>>61361400
>>61361493
>>61362575
>>61364039
>>61365586
>>61373405
>>61373577
>>61374163
>>61376467
>>61376554
>>61376758
>>61377416
>>61377487
>>61378146
>>61378190
>>>/a/

Keep anime on the anime board please

File: da9e3fea712b75f9bf96f396fbf7c4d0.png (42KB, 630x489px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 630x489px

>>61378229
DT880 have a fuckhuge treble spike. They would be close to accurate without this spike. They are not "extremely accurate" or "flat."
You found the HD598 "veiled" because you are used to the boosted treble Beyer sound.
You find the DT880 to be "accurate" and "flat" because of expectation bias, as that is what you have read.

File: b7d.png (66KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

66KB, 1000x1000px

>>61378280
>buy DT 880
>pirate copy of sonarworks/do that easy eq headfi thing
>now have a more neutral pair of headphones than the 598 with better build quality

File: 1499817534551.webm (1MB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1280x720px

>>61378298
>better build quality
That's patently false.

File: 1312006.jpg (80KB, 1024x680px) Image search: [Google]

80KB, 1024x680px

>>61378320

>>61378280
Alright, so "accurate" isn't a good word for them if you're looking for how they color the sound. Have you tried them before? Did you think that the treble spike made the music too sibilant? I think in practice the highs end up being very clear and present without overtaking the rest of the sound, so for me personally they work.

>>61378362
That's a pre-revision model and you know it. Please stop shitposting.

>>61378364
>Have you tried them before? Did you think that the treble spike made the music too sibilant?
Yes and yes. I'm glad you enjoy your headphones.

File: moving-the-goalposts-300x2402.jpg (28KB, 300x240px) Image search: [Google]

28KB, 300x240px

>>61378376

File: 5555005a-b802-43c6-a064-6d82b8f77cf1.jpg._CB277283065_.jpg (50KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 1000x1000px

So I just picked up these for cheap on prime day. I have them plugged into my Z97 mobo with the realtek audio manager installed.

How can I best configure and optimize these on my PC?

>>61378408
Optimize your registry keys for audio devices, some of them hasn't changed since '95!

>>61378408
Unplug it and toss them in the trash.
>>61374220

>>61378408
>598 Cs

Better return them.

>>61378408
You could try to EQ them to flat using >>61374220 as reference and the following instructions: https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/how-to-automatically-eq-your-headphones-to-online-measurements-a-step-by-step-guide.854773/

>>61378408
>cs
you fucked up m8

File: beyer pads.jpg (85KB, 800x478px) Image search: [Google]

85KB, 800x478px

These are the comfiest stock pads of any headphone

>>61378430
>>61378434
>>61378464
isn't this just a meme?

>>61378434

You know I took a gamble and didn't include "without trashing the headphones" but I guess I was too optimistic.

Anyways fellas, I mean using the Windows sound settings (bit rate, frequency, etc.) and realtek audio manager - what are the best optimizations? Should I have these set to "stereo" or "5.1"? Also, in certain songs I listen to I can hear a SLIGHT crackle occasionally in the left earphone...I'm not sure if a setting I changed caused this or not...

>>61378479
>Should I have these set to "stereo" or "5.1"?
Stereo.
>Also, in certain songs I listen to I can hear a SLIGHT crackle occasionally in the left earphone
It's very possible that a setting you changed is causing clipping, which would cause crackling. There also might be a hair on the driver.

>>61378320
Interesting how he positions his fingers in order to avoid putting stress on the parts near the earcups for all but the very last demonstration. It's an impressive headband but that's generally not the part that will be breaking first

>>61378477
598 Cs was created to jew idiots out of their money by piggybacking off of the successful 598

>>61378393
You haven't explained how they are objectively bad. A colored sound isn't objectively bad, and you personally objecting to the higher treble also doesn't make them objectively bad.

>>61378508
The parts near the earcups haven't been known to break since Sennheiser reformulated the plastic.

File: aasdasdas.jpg (88KB, 717x701px) Image search: [Google]

88KB, 717x701px

>>61378496

What about quadraphonic?

>>61378558
No. Disable headphone virtualization.

>>61378470
Nope, they're nice but they touch the outside of your ears and my ears are fucking small.

>>61378581

Ahhh a purist. Thank you for your help.

What are your thoughts on the equalizer presets?

>>61378661
>What are your thoughts on the equalizer presets?
Don't use them. If you're going to EQ at all, make sure you understand exactly what you're doing and take a scientific approach to it.

>>61378548
I'm sure they're great now but accidents and drops still happen. I prefer user-serviceable parts that you can replace without a lot of hassle

>>61378677

So the 598's ARE only a 2-channel setup correct? I know some of these headphones actually have multiple little speakers in them to create surround sound. If I pick 5.1/7.1 on these it will just try to virtualize surround then right?

>>61378744 new thread

>>61378732
>So the 598's ARE only a 2-channel setup correct?
Correct.
>If I pick 5.1/7.1 on these it will just try to virtualize surround then right?
I am not sure how your particular software works, so I cannot verify this.

>>61378408
>Cs
Too bad, you fucked up.

>>61378496

Also, is there anyway to clear a hair off the driver? Can I simple shake the shit out of it?

>>61378408
>>61378477
tried them when they were put onto black friday sale instead of regular 598
they were pretty lame. nobass as well
closed sounds awful in the first place. i'm sorry senpai

>>61378978
Flashlight + very careful tweezer use.