/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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>first time installing arch
>trying to install kde plasma
>been waiting hours which feel like days for this to download
>feel as if I am making a mistake
Should I install antergos instead?

Just making sure you see the information.

>>61351231

You have no idea what a distribution is.
You don't know anything about the distributions you mentioned.
Encryption isn't distribution exclusive.
Instead of asking sane questions or informing yourself, you're jumping straight into the memes. Enjoy your 10 minute experience and then going back to Windows.

tl;dr: you're an idiot who fell for memes and myths spread on here.

I am stupid and I keep replying in the old thread.

>>61351348

You are an idiot. Reasons why:

>antergos is arch for pretentious idiots, who enjoy additional useless abstraction layers which contribute more bugs
>you will use the same kde plasma package on both, meaning you will have to wait the same amount of time (on the same internet connection)

>>61351268
>Nice shot, son.

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>haven't updated arch laptop in 2 weeks
>930MB of updates to download

>>61351490
do it like this redditor
https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/6mva2v/how_do_you_avoid_potentially_harmful_updates/

what's the advantage of using CentOS over ubuntu server in a real life work environment?

i saw today that ubuntu can now run as a windows domain controller. it's come so far in the last few years

>>61351678
yes

>>61351678 its come too far we need to stop it

>>61351678
>https://www.samba.org/samba/history/samba-4.0.0.html
>December 11, 2012
Mmhmm. So far. The last few years. Thank you based tridge for inventing Ubuntu.

>>61351678
Ubuntu server is fit for cases where you need the latest server software and backends.

CentOS and such are for cases where you need the server stable, up and running no matter what. As an example, Dolby uses CentOS for the base of their OS running on their digital cinema servers.

>>61351874
>>61351678

>ubuntu
>centos
>falling for shill memes
either go full RHEL retard or install Debian

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First Anon to post on thread here.

Managed to install KDE , It came with more bloat than you could imagine, Any advice how I find every ounce of bloatware and remove it?
Pic related.

>>61351910
>implying I use anything but debian and gentoo

>>61351911
What do you mean by """""bloat"""""?

>>61351911
>Remove KDE
>Install i3, openbox, etc.
>thank /g/ later

>>61351874
this is why i'm concerned about the choice of ubuntu server. it's just not as stable as centos.

>>61351911
How should we know which software you need and which not? And why did you install KDE in the first place if you dont want the bloat?

>>61351920
>>61351951
To remove such bloatware applications such as things the shitty games it comes with, Do I simply delete it from the /usr/share/applications folder?

>>61351929

How can he remove an organisation?
What's wrong with Kwin and why would i3 or Openbox be better for him? Why did you only mention a window manager and not other useful programs?

>>61351978

No, you don't. You uninstall it with your package manager.

>>61351978
>/usr/share/applications

that's literally your "start menu folder". Deleting it only deletes the icons. You have to do what this man said:
>>61351994

remove the programs themselves using your package maanger.

>>61351994
>What's wrong with Kwin

not him but a year or two ago I had severe issues with kwin failing to detect monitor resolution/placement properly leading to a whole bunch of other related issues, had to disable kwin in kde and then set up a manual xorg config to resolve the issues

multi-monitor stuff on kde just does not work well in the slightest

>>61352061

>disable kwin
I don't think you know what Kwin is. You can't disable a window manager. You can replace it with a different one. I also doubt that a window manager has anything to do with your monitor/X stuff. That is an X problem and you most likely would have it with any window manager.

is he right, /g/ ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly1geVr-Xi4

>>61352354
>PCs vs Linux

opinion discarded, not even opening the video.

>>61352354

Totally. I prefer PCs over Linux, because I can easier google for help when I'm photoshopping something and it has free software like iTunes that I can listen to music to.

>>61352354
yup, pretty much correct. still a fagot though

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>>61352390

It's PCs with Linux, not versus.

>>61352390
> reading comprehension

>>61352436
>still a fagot
explain

>>61352016
Cheers, Managed to uninstall most of the bloat

>>61352398

So to clarify...

So much unbelievable fail, I love PC's with Windows 10 that spy on me and sell my opinion down the river and I love iTunes because I love of my fag-pad and phone.

>>61351533
or you could just use snapper

>>61352471
just look at him. if that's not a fagot, then i don't know what is

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>>61352354
>Linux

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I tend to always get this when booting into arch, is this normal since I've not yet seen it in any other distro?

>>61352527
idk he's cute

>>61352354
He seems like a reasonable guy at the start, but
>The hardware just works
>You got a problem? Just let someone log in remotely!
Nah, most laptops have problems and so do a lot of desktops.

>Linux has the potential to be the most powerful gaming platform, because it is free
Yeah, like it has the potential to be the best networking platform, because it is free AND is used on so many servers. But it isnt. The way Linux gets high performance networking is by bypassing the linux networking stack and handling it in a simplified, custom driver.

>muh freedom
Yeah it's great. But you can't pitch linux as a jack of all trades and the best at everything.

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Looking to install Ubuntu onto my system, have a Samsung NVMe drive with a 200GB or so unallocated chunk for it, is there anything I need to add or modify to the latest Ubuntu image before I try and install? To get Win7 working (Ryzen CPU) I had to add a heap of drivers into the install disc.

>>61352551
>s this normal since I've not yet seen it in any other distro?
It's a "just another day with systemd" problem. search for "a start job is running for dev-disk", I encountered it a few times with debian and ubuntu. You should find plenty of people complaining, especially because it's long and cannot be cancelled.

>>61352671
For me it's only 1 Minute and 30 Second, It'll take that over using winblows.

>>61352682
>For me it's only 1 Minute and 30 Second
It's a fixed amount for everyone. Guess memed is waiting for something? Nonexistent device in fstab or similar.

>>61352659
Depends on your hardware but chances are you don't. Make sure you connect the computer to the internet, that lets you download / update stuff early on but it's not necessary.

>>61352682

>not looking into the problem and why it's happening
Hint: it's not for without a reason.

>>61352738
Hence why I came here to see if people had had the same issue.

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>>61352757
>>61352551
Fixed the issue.
Apparently I must have missread the "z" for a "2" on the end.

>>61352757

Why would you ask here for such a common problem and not on the Arch forums? You don't even have to ask there, there are already threads about similar symptoms. Took me 30 seconds to get first pointers.
It's obviously waiting for a device that's either not there or specified wrongly.

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>61352837
sudo poweroff

>>61352845
that's what normies do

>>61352845
>not writing a script that also stops mpd for you and sends emails to all your clients that the server will go offline now.

Legit question from a Linux newbie:
I have a Gnome installed as my DE

Is it possible to somehow implement a large list of hotkeys to open all kinds of different programs?

>>61352937
Wouldn't know about Gnome but KDE comes with a shortcut manager to set shortcuts for different applications , Also if you right click on the open application you can open up the options menu.

>>61352937
if you want to do this, why not just use a tiling window manager? e.g. i3

>>61352937

Took me 15 seconds to find out how to do it using my search engine of choice.

>>61352999
Trips of truth.

>>61352997

What does the fact that he wants to start certain programs with a keyboard shortcut to do with a window manager's mode of operation?
Nothing, that's what. You're just another idiot who thinks that i3 is for l33t people who use keyboards, disregarding its core premise, which is the ability to use a tiling layout (together with also a floating and tabbed).

>>61352999
You're a pretty smart guy tb h.

>>61353018

Thanks. I learned how to use internet web search engines at a young age and solve my problems faster than it took me to ask stupid and easily searchable questions.

>>61352509
Snapper is shit and breaks all the time

>>61352837

curl cheat.sh

>>61351994

gee mr. F you're awfully sand-vaginy today

>>61352837

curl -s -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/keroserene/rickrollrc/master/roll.sh | bash[\code]

try this one

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>>61353148
>curl | bash

>>61353148
fuck I messed up

curl -s -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/keroserene/rickrollrc/master/roll.sh | bash

>>61353157
it's harmless, i swear

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>reinstalling Slack
>notice this
PATRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK

What's the current state of AMD GPU support on Loonix?

I'm using a 280x which is a GCN 1.0 card, I'm wondering since proprietary drivers were discontinued.

>>61352997
This >>61353012
Fucking memesters. xbindkeys is wm independent.

>>61352837

base64 -d IF9fX19fX19fX19fXwo8IHVyIGEgZmFnZXQgPgogLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tCiAgICAgICAgXCAgIF5f
X14KICAgICAgICAgXCAgKG9vKVxfX19fX19fCiAgICAgICAgICAgIChfXylcICAgICAgIClcL1wK
ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIHx8LS0tLXcgfAogICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgfHwgICAgIHx8Cg==

>>61353206
that might be the case, but putting it in my i3config is the easiest

>>61351911
Use your package manager and figure out how to tie a file back to the package it came from (with rpm, it would just be `rpm -qf $filename`). Then remove that package.

Be careful, since if that package is tied to other dependencies you will likely remove a lot with the bloat, say if it came from a package group/meta-package and you tried to install the entire thing.

In the future, look for minimal meta packages or package groupings, and always look carefully at everything that is about to be installed to see if you made the right decision.

>>61351929
Not everyone wants to be a tiling kiddie.

>>61353220
Fuck.

echo 'IF9fX19fX19fX19fXwo8IHVyIGEgZmFnZXQgPgogLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tCiAgICAgICAgXCAgIF5fX14KICAgICAgICAgXCAgKG9vKVxfX19fX19fCiAgICAgICAgICAgIChfXylcICAgICAgIClcL1wKICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIHx8LS0tLXcgfAogICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgfHwgICAgIHx8Cg==' | base64 -d

>>61353247
Openbox is floating kiddo

>>61353220
No I'm not.

>>61353250

< ur a faget >
 ------------
        \   ^__^
         \  (oo)\_______
            (__)\       )\/\
                ||----w |
                ||     ||

>>61353250

xxd -p -r <<< 7468652067616d650a

>>61353293
God
damn it.

Should i use jeos or lxqt for my raspberry pi 3b? gonna install opensuse tumbleweed, not sure about speed differences

>>61353313
Have a rare pepe for your troubles.

wget -qO- https://0x0.st/GVj.txt

Hotkey faggot again.

So, when i make a hotkey a bash command executes. But where does it execute? Can it use like cd?

Things like "~/foo/bar.sh" or "cd ~/foo && ./bar.sh" doesn't seem to work

>>61351911
>try KDE on OpenSUSE
>shitloads of bloatware I won't ever use
>try removing a single inconsequential program
>Are you sure you want to uninstall your entire current operating system, the operating systems installed on your other devices, divorce your wife, and set fire to your pets bed? (y/n)
Never again.

>>61353395
Post your command

>>61353395
That depends on the program that handles those keys.
Try absolute paths, i.e. substitute ~ for /home/username.

>>61353395
sh -c 'notify-send benis'

>manjaro and antergos are more popular than arch
who knew that you could make a distribution more popular by taking a few hours to develop a gui installer

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>>61351929
This!

One of the /g/ memes that I actually liked is openbox/I3.

Openbox is a great minimal transition for floating that I use at home and I3 is great for productivity at work.

I can never go back to a full blown DE now.(not like that's a bad thing) lol

Thanks guys! :)

>>61353247
hence the options

>>61353426
Nothing special, just trying everything

>>61353430
Not everything works this way for some reason. Like opening a nautilus in a targeted folder

curl -s -L https://0x0.st/9a | bash

What's the most advanced DE these days? The one that has most features?

>>61353472
>nothing special
Then how the fuck do you expect us to help you with such vague nonsense?

>>61353432
Whoah, you fixed every small problem i had
Thank you!

>>61353488
gnome, kde, xfce and unity

>>61353475
how the fuck does that work???

>>61353518
Isn't Unity at this point pretty much abandoned?

>>61353536
true, but its still one of the most 'advanced' DEs out there

is there a arm sbc that has a bios so you can book off usb?

How's Kubuntu?

I have a philips SHB360 bluetooth headset. It works well on android, but on windows and linux desktop the sound quality is crap. What might be the problem? I'd like to solve the problem at least on the linux.

>>61353787
it's like ubuntu but with kde instead of unity

>>61353787
Not Neon.

what do linux distros use to decode internet video?

>>61353810
bluetooth is garbage is probably why. stick to wires.

Is there no better alternative to Office than LibreOffice?

Is there any graphical editor that is as SIMPLE and EASY as microsoft paint?

Just easily drawing lines with given color and the ability to select and drag areas on the fly

Inkscape && gimp look too frightful

>>61354712
pinta

inkskape is for vector graphics, completely different branch.

>>61354691
what's wrong with libreoffice?

>>61354736
Looks legit
Thank you for helping

>>61354848
I second pinta, I used it for super basic image editing and it works

where do I download debian 8

>why do I need to search the net for 15 mins for a fucking iso?

Can I automagically get a `time` reading after every command on bash?

In other news, after starting to build llvm && clang, I'm not so sure I want to install gentoo anymore.

I've been getting some tearing here on KDE. Doesn't happen with the desktop or firefox, but Chromium fucks up. Both scrolling through webpages and watching youtube videos produce tearing. Any clues?

>>61355174
debian 8 is oldstable, use stable

also stop being a drooling nigger
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/8.8.0/amd64/iso-dvd/

>>61355259
screen tearing and linux go hand in hand. Embrace it

>>61355275
appreciated

while :; do

What does the ':' do in this case? It's in the example for GETOPT(1) and I can't find any reference to a ':' operator in the sh manpage.

>>61351533
btw the answer to question in the first reply is /g/ memes.

>>61355720
type :
help :
>infinite loop
>while do nothing but it works like while whatever because it always suceeds.

>>61351268
I can't figure out how to edit the grub.cfg on a librebooted x60 with full disk encrytion including /boot. All the guide are confusing.

>>61355839
Oh, I get it now. I didn't see the break in the example.

>>61355841
archwiki

>>61355720
: literally means "true"

>>61355885
Not on arch wiki.

>>61355914
Yes it is

>>61356014
Where?

>>61356029
Why dont you search the wiki?
Im not handholding you,its on the fucking wiki you just need to fucking read

>>61356046
I just searched libreboot. 1 result and it was unrelated.

>>61356076
Why would that matter?
Look at encryption...

I did a short search with relevent information and i returned not one but 3 differnt guides on the internet for libreboot and arch,one of which links to the arch wiki

>>61351268
what is happening to that pengin

This is a BSD issue but I don't think there is a BSD thread up right now so I'm asking here on the off chance somebody can help

I need to repartition a 1TB drive because my I underestimated how much space I need, but "gpart destroy" just returns "Device busy".
I removed the entries from my fstab and rebooted to make sure there wasn't any hanging references to any of the filesystems, and still get the same message.
fstat shows no processes, and there was no fsck running (there is now, because I got all panicky).
What else can I try should fsck prove fruitless?

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>>61352527
doesn't look like one
did you mean 'bagpipe'?

>>61353419
>install KDE on Arch
>comes with basically nothing, not even Konsole
>I just install the apps that I need
Pretty comfy

Serious question. since so many people seem to use Arch (are you using it on bare metal or just in a VM? screenfetches always show just some minutes...), is Arch actually usable? I'm pretty scared away from the userbase elitism and fear of breaking shit when updating..... on the other hand, the AUR seems to be a big seller.

>>61357600
>on the other hand, the AUR seems to be a big seller.
But then you start using it an realize it's mostly half-assed and non maintained scripts

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>be EWWBANTO PROGRAMEN PINGUIN USAR
>systemctl suspend
>back at it, ok
>repeat, ok
>repeat, ok
>at some random point, no network
>have to borrow gf's laptop to debug it, lasts an hour, oops gotta get back to my wageslave job haha I didn't lose time at all
>plus I have to close all the windows I opened on which I was working haha love UBANTO
>it does it every so often while using systemctl suspend

>be EWWBANTO UZAR
>unplug keyboard because dusting
>put it back
>oh wow no network
>crawl into obscure utilities that I'm supposed to know the name of because "network --help" returns nothing (RTFM!)
>networkctl ? useless. ifconfig ? useless. restart network-manager ? useless.
>borrow gf's laptop that she's busy using btw
>must reboot and lose workspace hahahahaha awesome
>haha still doesn't work
>ping google ? fixes it !

HAHAHA yeah truly an OS for the patrician

>meanwhile on WANGBLOWS
>no network
>right click the network icon
>"fix issues"
>it fixes issues

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>>61357600
Arch breaks things sometimes, but not as often as meme'd. You're faced with breakage like 5-10 times a yeat and when it happens, you know it before when reading the news.
That said, if you're skilled enough you can use the AUR on any distro; just check the PGKBUILD and adjust to your distro-needs.
The downside for me is that pacman doesn't seem to have an option to exclude all nonfre software. It could need some license filtering like on portage - but well, Arch isn't much freedom orientet anyway, so I don't think that it will change in the future.

>>61357600
aur is basically just a git clone; make wrapper
>>61357666
just fyi, its possible to install the your-freedom package from parabola for basic filtering, since the package is made to conflict with all proprietary software (pretty cool hack imho) and disable it when stuff is needed

nigs, I think xdg standards are pretty sane and i like things organized (mostly bugged with configs pn ~/, ~/.program/ ~/.config/program/ different cache dirs, etc), is there a program that somehow "forces" some organisation into all that? or is there a program that can organize dotfiles gernerally? my current solution is to keep a directory where I ln configs into

Is there a distro which allows me to install different versions of a program without running into conflicts?

>>61357936
FreeBSD

twm is so comfy

>>61347793
>>61348241

hey guys, last night before i was drunk i posted the above question and got the above reply.

i ran ps and couldn't find my plex media server in the (very short) list, so i'm not really sure what to do now.

How do I get borderless windows in URxvt in i3?
I tried

 URxvt.borderLess: true 

but it created a non-maximized window that I couldn't use

>>61357909
https://www.gnu.org/software/stow/
>>61357936
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/
>>61357624
install gnu
>>61355720
help :
Cool things you can do with : otherwise:

x=; : "${x:=foo}"; echo "${x}"

date | :

I'm using while :; do often too, but at some point when you have a sleep in your endless loop, it's better to use the sleep as statement like this:

while sleep 1; do foo; done

instead of

while :; do foo; sleep 1; done

>>61355317
All you need is setting up you compositor to do the right thing.
>>61355259
Stop using the Google botnet.
>>61355240
You can emulate zsh's "preexec" by setting up a trap hook in PROMP_COMMAND and put function there, which calls "time".
>>61354712
I think people ask this becaus GIMP needs some time to startup, read the manpage, it will show you some things you can disable like loading templates, fonts, scripts, etc, to get get an instant startup.

>>61357624
>Windows "fix issues" actually doing anything.
This is how I know you're a lying pajeet.

>>61358195
The window is created without any hints for the window manager, that's why there's no border.
Try setting it up with i3 settings instead of URxvt settings.

>urxvt
bloat

>>61358313
(((You)))

>>61358323
seriously, doesn't even support truecolor depite having 20 times larger codebase than st.

Use st.

>Perens left OSI in 1999, a year after co-founding it. In February 1999 in an email to the Debian developers mailing list he explained his decision and stated that, though "most hackers know that Free Software and Open Source are just two words for the same thing", the success of "open source" as a marketing term had "de-emphasized the importance of the freedoms involved in Free Software"; he added, "It's time for us to fix that."
based bruce
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Perens

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>>61358363
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Perens#BusyBox
TIL: the initial developer of busybox is a cool guy
>>61358344
but it does http://cvs.schmorp.de/rxvt-unicode/src/command.C?revision=1.570&view=markup&sortby=log&sortdir=down

My i7 3770 base clock is 3.4Ghz. I ran this:

sudo cpupower frequency-set -d 3500Mhz

This sets the minimum frequency to 3.4Ghz.
Have I effectively overclocked my cpu? Can I go to 3.9Ghz minimum (the boost frequency) with no risk?

How's Linux in general now with Ryzen CPUs? Worth getting Intel for now?

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I hope that people updated and compiled their kernel.

Do not forget to heck signature.

>>61358606
Linux*

>>61358537
Your best luck is with distributions with up to date kernels like fedora, opensuse tumbleweed, arch, gentoo etc.

>>61356572
it's shitting

>>61358627
Linuxes*

I dual boot windows 10 and Ubuntu 16.4.
I loaded my pc up today and it didn't load into the menu to select Ubuntu or windows. I went into bios and couldn't locate Ubuntu at all. Should I just reinstall it on my pc?

>>61358307
I've done

 bindsym $mod+Return exec urxvt && border none 

from the i3 config file but it doesn't do anything to the border
Help a brainlet like me understand

>>61358606
>Do not forget to heck signature.
why doesn't linus sign linux anoymore?

>>61358699
Linux signed the 4.12

>>61358636
>I dual boot
Go balls deep.

>>61358699
s/x/s/

>>61358699

Linus is my favorite systemd.

>>61358743
GNU/Linus*

>>61358629
wtf..

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>>61358363

How do I display my hardware stats and stuff on my desktop? I am trying to find a picture to show you guys what I mean, but hopefully one of you knows what I am talking about.

How can I tell make to use 16 threads for compiling and a single thread for linking?

>>61358726
I don't want to lose my stuff on my hard drive though. I don't really like Ubuntu should I just go with mint?

>>61358656
>>61358307
nvm fixed it with

for_window [class="URxvt"] border none 

>>61358887
Mint is the worst distro around, son. Don't fall for normie Linux blogs.
> I don't really like Ubuntu
Distros ae all the same, you're supposed to customize your GNU/Linux distro to your needs. That's a major part of learning how to use the system.

>>61358887
>I don't want to lose my stuff
Just copy it?

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>>61358773
>I humorously remind Richard that he and I both have immunity as delegates and he responds
>"Well perhaps then I should have killed Bob Kramer"
>Kramer is the CompTIA representative who comes along [...] to relate an pro-software-patenting and generally anti-Free-Software viewpoint which gets Richard very steamed up
How can you not love this man.
Saved

>>61358887
Mint is Ubuntu with a default Cinnamon desktop environment essentially

>>61358930
What is the best way to learn to customize it, and will I lose everything on my hdd if I install Linux totally.
I've never installed a new OS, would I just change the partition?
>>61358951

>>61358887
Mint is Ubuntu with a default Cinnamon desktop environment essentially plus security updates and security functionality like apparmor removed.

>>61358975
next time, use a separate ntfs partition for data, and put EVERYTHING there. You will be able to use it from windows, from OSX, from a VM, from linux, from whatever the fuck you want, and doing backup will be way easier (you are doing backups, right, anon?)

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>>61359004
>ntfs
Do not use the N word in fglt thread. It's not friendly and it's not GNU/Linux compatible.

>>61359004
Of course, I'm wanting to get the hang of it, the only thing I don't know how to backup is my operating system if I were to uninstall it.
>>61358983
You can change desktop environments right,? All a desktop environment does is load different basic settings and how everything looks?

>>61352937
you could use sxhkd.

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>>61358773
part i: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk-nTWFfJw8
part ii: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPVYR3w4vy0
outtake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pTEPzou8yQ

>>61358803

Conky.

>>61359073
>not posting the full thing
>youtube

mpv https://srvarcstream3a.unesco.org/arcstream/video/ci_softwarefordev_x264.mp4

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Those guys from suckless are really up to something

>come up with arbitrary rules of "what your software should and will look like"
>deliver numerous software packages
>they're all quality according to the aforementioned arbitrary rules

Do you use anything suckless?
dwm, dmenu, st term here.

Will WINE fuck with or otherwise slowdown netplay?

Fightcade specifically

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Those guys from redhat are really up to something

>come up with arbitrary rules of "what your software should and will look like"
>deliver numerous software packages
>they're all quality according to the aforementioned arbitrary rules

Do you use anything redhat?
systemd, pulseaudio, selinux here.

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Those guys from GNU are really up to something

>come up with arbitrary rules of "what your software should and will look like"
>deliver numerous software packages
>they're all quality according to the aforementioned arbitrary rules

Do you use anything GNU?
GNU, GNU Linux-libre, GNU core-utils here.

>>61359151
desu guys at suckless should make a live image with a linux system organized the way they believe is best, they would probably lure in some normies like me with instant loading speeds.

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Those guys from Linux are really up to something

>come up with arbitrary rules of "what your software should and will look like"
>deliver numerous software packages
>they're all quality according to the aforementioned arbitrary rules

Do you use anything Linux?
Linux PC, Linux phone, Linux router here.

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Those guys from /fglt/ are really up to something

>come up with arbitrary rules of "what a shit meme should and will look like
>deliver numerous meme packages
>they're all quality shit memes according to aforementioned arbitrary rules

Do you bother typing a shit meme?

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Those guys from systemd are really up to something

>come up with arbitrary rules of "what your software should and will look like"
>deliver numerous software packages
>they're all quality according to the aforementioned arbitrary rules

Do you use anything systemd?
login, pam, getty, syslog, udev, mount, cryptsetup, cron, at, dbus, acpi, cgroups, gnome-session, autofs, etc already covered here.

>>61358295
except it does
it did since XP
because it does everything you're doing with obscure commands in UBONTAS but automatically and without having to know every command name and parameter list, I guess

>inb4 HURR LE LYING
ask any windows user, it always worked

also, unplugging a keyboard or putting a computer to sleep doesn't fucking crash the network on windows.

t. still stuck on BULBONTOS anyway because reasons

>>61356626
boot liveusb and formart it

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>>61359435

>>61358194
Create plex user and plex group
chown your media folders(and subs) to plex:plex
chmod 755

>>61359461
It's cool, I used the big scary -F flag and it was obliterated. Sometimes you just gotta treat your disks like the sluts they are.

I'm using a radeon 280x with KDE Neon

What steps may I take so performance isn't terrible?

>>61359495
>>61359495
thanks, i'll see if i can figure that out.

Those guys from Microsoft are really up to something
>come up with arbitrary rules of "what your software should and will look like"
>deliver numerous software packages
>they're all quality according to the aforementioned arbitrary rules
Do you use anything suckless?
Windows 10, Cortana, Edge, Xbox One here.

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>Those guys from Google are really up to something [...]

Anyone of my fellow freetards knows a site, guides, or has any hints how to uncuck an android phone? Just got one by a friend and holy shit, this is like botnet 9000.

>>61359853
Lazy: Don't greate google account and use http://f-droid.org/
Maybe best advice, but also worst supported: http://replicant.us/
General advise:
https://fsfe.org/campaigns/android/liberate.en.html
Philosphy:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/android-and-users-freedom.en.html

My suggestion: Get a dumbphone.

>>61359853
>uncuck
Fully? Replicant, only few old models supported.

Not fully, just ditch gapps and any benefits than comes with it. F-droid for application repository.

This isn't a linux-specific question but I keep getting "Error: upload failed" when posting from my PC recently, posting this from my phone.
It appears always, no matter what I try to post where, even when posting pure text and I haven't made any changes to my browser.

>>61359937
>>61359975
Thanks guys, will look into these. I'm pretty new to phone hacking, so no idea about ROMS, rooting, replicant, etc. Let's see.

>>61360003
tried deleting cache, cookies, etc? do you use any extensions? are extensions up to date?

How do we stop the recently introduced web drm cancer? Is there anything a normal user can do?

last time I try to fix font rendering on tumbleweed my system broke when I restarted. (I was using gldickens repo)

there is any way to fix it without break my system?

damn I'm bored of this...

>>61360081
DRM exists. It doesn't matter if it's now a "web standard" or not. All you can do is not using services using DRM.
>hit them where it hurts; in the wallet
inb4 the services are so comfy

>>61359975
>>61359937

Not him, but there's nothing as good as Google Maps.
There is Openstreetmap, but it's kind of bad for my shitty country and there are no nice, free software apps that use it.

>>61360128
you could learn2fontconfig

>>61360159
Are you sure that your convenience should be more important than your freedom?
What you get is a nice route from a to b.
What you pay is constant surveillence and the results sold to the highest bidder. That's nothing a good citizen should support imho.

current state of reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmemes/comments/6mygal/proprietary_and_is_theft/

>>61360081
if it gets rid of flash then who cares?

>>61360272
You need to go back.
>>61360286
DRM is like 9001% more problematic than flash.

how to turn this off https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/issues/2785

I have an .sh file. How do i check if an output of some function contains a word? for example

if(ls contains "poop")
mount blabla..

How would the if look?

>>61360432

sudo rm -rf $(whereis firefox | awk '{sub($1 FS,"")}7'

>>61360508

grep

>>61360526
Oh shit nigger forgot to close the parentheses at the function }

sudo rm -rf $(whereis firefox | awk '{sub($1 FS,"")}7')

here

>>61360508

x='poop'; [[ "$x" == 'poop' ]] && echo "It's poop." || echo "It's nothing."

or

x='poop'
if [[ "$x" == 'poop' ]]; then
  echo "It's poop."
else
  echo "It's nothing."
fi

x= can be
x='poop'
x=1
x="$(date)"
etc

>>61360598

sudo rm -rf $(whereis firefox | awk '{sub($1 FS,"")}7')
            ^-- SC2046: Quote this to prevent word splitting.

>>61360508
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs

>>61360335
nothing's worse than flash

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So, I just got xfce.
how do I remove the tille bar and get th buttons in this position

>>61360795
Xfwm4 draws the border around window, not Firefox.

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I'm using Manjaro linux and I'm getting this error when I try to sudo install recommended software. What do?

>>61360910
You've never sync'd have you?

>>61360986
I did it twice before posting

>>61360857
Is there a way to remove the title bar but keep the buttons?

>>61360910
Did you try

rm -f /var/lib/pacman/sync/* 
pacman -Sy
pacman -Syu

as root?

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>>61361049
That was my problem, wasn't running on root.
thanks friend

>>61360910
>using a DOWNASTREAM distro
install a good distro like arch that doesnt break like manjaro

>>61361122
who is the blonde guy?

>>61361145
Bill Gates

>>61361145
Young Steve Jobs

>>61361169
topkek

>>61361145
Tim Cook

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>>61351268
Why are we penguins so hostile to each other? E.g. why does Linus constantly shit on other helpless penguins?

>>61361145
It's just Linux.

Is reading a single byte 10 times from /dev/urandom equivalent to reading 10 bytes from /dev/urandom?

>>61361236
yes. urandom is random with botnet stuff added when random runs out of entropy

>>61361145
just some stupid fedora user

Linux noob here. I'm trying Slacko Puppy on my old laptop, liking it so far.

>>61361290
Install GNU GuixSD GNU/GNU Linux-libre.
You can download it with GNU wget and copy it to your disk with GNU dd. The GNU guix package manage is the future, you'll see. Try it today!

>>61361335
>GNU
No thanks

>>61361253
Do you expect anyone to take your post seriously when you have no idea what you're talking about? Non-blocking is not "botnet", even when the term "botnet' is applied liberally like so common on /g/.

>>61361335
Thanks! Will check out

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>>61361350
what the hell, kid

>>61360047
It worked, thanks

>>61361356
He means botnet as in old entropy is reused

>>61361356
I suggest you learn a bit about how "random" number generation in the kernel works. I also suggest to get familiar with imageboard jargon, fellow redditor.

>>61361366
chuckled

>>61361350
If you don't use coreutils daily, you don't know how to use Linux. It's impossible to even install and boot Linux without GNU and coreutils.

>>61361419
GNU/Linux*

>>61361422
No, I'm talking about Linux itself.

>>61361419
>what is busybox

>busybox
>GNU
STOP RIGHT NOW

http://tools.suckless.org/9base

>>61361483
>suckless
Nice meme

>>61361356
<nitpicking>
random holds stuff which is generated by actual random shit like hardware temperature and that jazz
if random cant supply entropy, the kernel adds generated random stuff from different sources, mostly from the cpu
post 2008 cpus contain engines with backdoors, which makes them a pretty insecure source for generating useful randomness
</nosepicking>

>>61361463
a pretty cool app for android and gnu systems

>>61361004

windows manager -> i recommend the theme called "TillSummer" u found @deviantart

download
sudo cp THEME /usr/share/themes

>>61361519
Runs great on my non-GNU Linux

>>61361385
Then both of you are wrong, because it's not "reused" in the trivial sense, which suggests cyclic cycling. It reverts to pseudorandom generation in a secure manner. Given that the original entropy pool is unpredictable, it is known to be in practice just as secure as /dev/random. Idiots.
>>61361394
>I also suggest to get familiar with imageboard jargon, fellow redditor.
Nice projection. I guarantee I've been posting on imabeboards longer than you have. Your misuse of such terminology is also detrimental to real and current instances of botnet in the open-source community and GNU/Linux in general (e.g. users willingly adopting and using such services as Steam, Google services, Netflix/other DRM-integrated services, etc), and serves trivialize the dangers of actual botnet. Think about what you're spewing, kid.

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>>61361620

>>61361632
>I guarantee I've been posting on imabeboards longer than you have.
Your epeen must be very huge.

>>61361632
cpu botnet is an actual issue, retard

>>61361419
busybox
clang
musl c
llvm

>>61361705
hanging
shooting self
setting self on fire
jumping from high building

       GNU

GNU      GNU

gnuforce

>>61361722
And GNU is running in the middle of a highway

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I just got an XPS 13. 512 GB NVMe drive.

I'm going to limit windows to taking up 250 gigs.

I want to play around with TWO distros to learn linux. I want one to be more user friendly and intuitive (read: similar to windows) and I want the other one to be more advanced where I can learn the ins and outs, etc...

I was thinking Ubuntu for the first one, but I don't like how it has an amazon botnet preinstalled. What can I get that's similar? I hear mint has good reviews and Linus Torvalus uses it and likes it. Is Mint Ubuntu based?

And I was leaning towards Arch for the other distro. It has a great ricing scene from what I hear and is more technical than other distro's, but not quite gentoo-level compile everything yourself-tier.

Suggestions, thoughts?

>>61361705
Never understood this argument. What's the point here? Free software is cool and all and it's nice that things like busybox exist for small systems. Clang may be problematic, but thats a differnt issue (ask BSDfags how they enjoy being Applecucks). But the actual funny thing here is: Systems with linux, busybox, clang, muslc, etc obviously aren't GNU systems, so why pointing these out? The existence of this software doesn't change that the combination of GNU and Linux is the GNU/Linux system.

>>61361503
Pretty sure the cpu entropy source it's used for /dev/random too and urandom uses a prng the entire time, not just as a fallback for an empty pool.

>>61361905
Linus Torvalus uses gentoo.

>>61361905
You don't need 2 distros to learn Linux - any distro will do, no matter how user friendly. And Ubuntu no longer has botnet. Just install Xubuntu, and if you want to learn the "ins and outs", open up a terminal. Also read the OP for links, which answer your questions.

>>61361905
Ubuntu doesn't do the Amazon thing anymore.
Just do gentoo.

>>61361928
man 4 random
>>61361944
GNU/Linux*

>>61361944

What about starting with Arch and ricing the shit out of it? No memeing.

>>61361944
>And Ubuntu no longer has botnet.
That's not really correct. It comes with nonfree software and the amazon spyware is still installed. The only change canonical made is that it's turned off on install.

>>61361944

But I want one that I can use daily and have it 'just werk xD'

And then the other I want to experiment with, rice it, etc.

>>61361979
>arch
>no memeing
pick 1

>>61362010
Use Debian. It's both in one.

>>61361979
ricing doesn't teach you shit about using GNU/Linux.
Ricing is pretty much just copypasting someone else's config and mixing up colors a bit.

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hey /g/, what's the best distro which is uptodate, stable, lightweight and respects y freedoms?

>>61362071
we're searching for it since 1991

>>61362041

Alright, fair enough.

>>61362017
Stable releases, great ricing scene, what is there to meme about?

>>61362071
Debian Sid.

>>61362083
everything you know about arch is a meme
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html
tl;dr
- it's bloated
- shit breaks
- it's not minimal
- it's not lightweight
- no user freedom
- community memes

so i'm running debian and needed to extract a rar file, tried unrar and didn't worked, dowloaded peazip for x64 and failed too, i tried decompressing the file on an android cellphone with a shitty app and it worked just fine, any ideas what could be happening

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>>61362129
Sorry to inform you that you're full of shit.

>>61362200
upload the rar file and let me try

>>61362200
install unar, unrar is nonfree

>>61362129
>- it's bloated
That post talks about how arch uses the standard kernel, devs don't touch it as much as in other distros

>- shit breaks
this is a lie

>- it's not minimal
again, talking about the kernel, not the OS as a whole

>- it's not lightweight
A standard arch install is more lightweight tgan a standard install from other distros, like debian or ubuntu; but a debian netinstall, for example, is more lightweight than a standard arch installation.

>- no user freedom
Define 'user freedom'

>- community memes
Is what you're trying to spread

>>61362227
>take redditors serious
>ignore arch wiki admin on the mailing list
you need to go back

>>61362227
>didn't read
>reply anyway
ebin trole

>>61362259
Luckily people can just click the link and read for themselves, so they don't need to listen to your damage control.

>>61362300
>lies on the internet
>someone denies post with good arguments
>y-you're just lying
Luckily people can just click the link and read for themselves, so they don't need to listen to your lies.

>>61361944
>And Ubuntu no longer has botnet.

Post proof

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>>61352837

curl https://ptpb.pw/~goatse

i meant devuan
>>61362251
well shit, this actually worked, thanks
>>61362241
i'll probably get bullied by it's contents so no.

>>61352837
Maybe a bit more instersting how to create these.

cat goatse | curl -X POST -F 'c=@-' https://ptpb.pw/~goatse

the url after ~ is a vanity label, which can be customized.
ptpb is pretty cool since it gives you a delete key so you can delete shit like this:

curl -X DELETE https://ptpb.pw/theuuidYouGetWhenPosting

curl https://ptpb.pw/~hal

>>61362537
>

-X POST

not needed since post is the default

How is Devuan? Outdated like Debian?

>>61362615
Actually POST is only default when -F is defined, but yeah, it's not really needed in this case.

>>61352837

sudo rm -rf /dev/cpu

It's a blast.

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>>61362646
Here a (((You))) and a funny meme you can post on reddit. Greetings, /g/.

>>61362685
No memes, serious question. Don't need bleeding edge but need something modern

>>61362677
>>61362646
>>>/r/eddit

>>61362646
>>61362706
Actually more, it's still on 1.0 which is as of few weeks equivalent to debian oldstable (8.x jessie).

t. devuan user

The release of devuan 2.0 is unknown yet, I've heard they're experimenting with OpenRC instead of running just the sysvinit but who knows.

Should I use Fedora or Mint for my Thinkpad T430?

>>61362784
lol, fuck off reddit

>>61362793
>T430
No reason to keep updating this shit, pick Ubuntu LTS, opensuse leap or debian.

more memes here: >>61362807
more memes here: >>61362807
more memes here: >>61362807

>>61362789
Do you like it? Well hope they're making steady progress

>>61362793
Whatever you do, don't install Fedora, Mint, Ubuntu or OpenSUSE

>>61362789
>uses devuan
>still believes in the outdated meme
what is wrong with you?
there are three drifferent versions, both for debian and devuan where the unstable versions are as fresh as any rolling distros

>>61362846
Why not? What's wrong with those distros?