WTF is wrong with you?!

They're not accurate yet. Anyones finger will unlock it. Not secure at all.

I don't want to give my fingerprint to monstrously large corporations.

I got an idea how about you grow up and don't lose your fucking phone like a toddler.

There. No more lockscreen needed ever again.

>>61350443
Pic related is the shittiest phone ever. Terrible, terrible battery life and has screen retention.
Source : using one rn

>>61350456
If that's what you need to tell yourself to feel normal, OK.

>>61350462
by that logic, why lock your phone at all? fingerprint reader is literal physical bloat

>>61350443
They really sketch me out. I've already been fingerprinted from a trip to a jailer but I'd rather not have one digitally recorded at the touch of the likes of Google or Apple, or any middle man. Especially given the phone has all vital information and a physical location tracking system easily accessible through a built-in back door.

had it since 2013
also
>not having an iphone
enjoy being stuck in 2007

>>61350468
I'm using one right now myself...it's fine. Replaceable battery and sd card make up for most shortcomings.

Its a bit big for my taste I'll admit. And nowhere near as comfy as the moto x I used to have...but those non removable batteries are a fucking no buy for me.

>>61350485

>by that logic, why lock your phone at all?

That's literally what I said you idiot.

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>>61350443
Don't need one. Bullshit tech just like a 3.5 headphone jack.

>>61350462
>lockscreen is only of any use if you lose your phone

>>61350443
I have one I just don't use it OP anon. Don't judge me, I don't like giving my biometrics.

>>61350443

It's ok but I could live without it no problem.

>>61350443
Less secure than passwords.

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:3

>>61350485
I don't. Why would I waste my own time on that.

>>61350443

> 2017
> Still not realizing the consequences of finger print scanning.

I want a phone without fingerprint scanner. One with a physically disconnected one suffices as well.

>>61350443
A fingerprint is not a password.

It is a username.

>>61350637
that's a male btw

>>61350443
fingerprint scanners will only lead to thugs cutting off fingers.

>>61350657
that won't happen
rather in the future you can buy that stuff at the black market

>>61350443
But I do.

posted from Xiaomi Redmi 4 Pro

>>61350443
Guess where dem fingerprints are sent. Be a good go- I mean guy, and scan your every finger.

>>61350669
A piece of copper tape will help me out then.

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>>61350689

This.

Don't believe the 'scans cannot leave the device' meme. That IC got to have debugging modes. Fat chance biometric info can be uploaded from those sensors on production models.

>>61350443
Image you have a password to unlock your phone.

Now, everywhere you go you write down that password on a sticky note stick it to anything you touch. All the time. Everywhere. Oh, and you're not allowed (or even able) to change your password ever again.

Still think this is a good idea? : ^ )

Inb4 comparison is retarded. It isn't. Fingerprints as password is retarded.

>>61350520
iphones have fingerprint readers, though

>>61350763
And you don't even have to search for them, they are right there on your phone.

>>61350668
thats one of my bigger fears.

>>61350443
I'm too poor to buy a keyone anon

Reminder that biometrics are a replacement for usernames, not passwords.

>>61350763
It's about threat profiling. If you need to secure your phone from a government, corporation, or organized crime; use a strong passcode. If you're securing your phone from Jamal and Tyrone, a fingerprint sensor is fine.

>>61350814

This. Cannot be stressed enough.

>>61350816

For now.

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https://youtu.be/O7VaXlMvAvk?t=115
(start at 1:55 if it doesn't link properly)
pic related

i just realized my phone has one, not going 2 use it tho

>>61350843
Literally every statement one can make regarding technology is included with an implied "for now," you fucking tard. Because tech could change completely tomorrow.

>>61350853
I don't use it to get past the lock screen, but I'll use it in place of wicked long passwords for shit like my banking app.

>>61350859

You completely fucked up.

You can only use a finger print for non-sensitive applications. You cannot replace a strong password with a publicly available exterior property of your body and still expect to be save.

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>>61350443
with a fingerprint scanner you have at most 10 different keys. you also don't know where that fingerprint might end up. and you go to bars and cafes where you touch stuff. and there is the relevant xkcd, in the case of fingerprints it'll be even worse.
too much problems

>>61350457
it's only 1 fingerprint, not 5 or iris scan, and it's not used anywhere else.

>>61350917
Ok. But they still have to get past the 20 character alpha-numeric password in order to access the apps that allow me to use the fingerprint scanner.

>>61350935

Then what is the use of the fingerprint?

>>61350933
Citation required. Prove to me any large government surveillance group doesn't have my finger print.
>Protip you can't

>>61350944
To prevent myself from using it if I get into a bad accident

>>61350944
To keep me from having to enter 128 character KeePass XC passwords once I'm past the lock screen, while still keeping my shit secured from all other phones and computer access.

>>61350443
i hate all kinds of lock systems. i don't have a pin or a fingerprint scanner configured or anything like that

>>61350953
I can still use the regular password if I need to. Fingerprint as a password is always an option on apps (at least, all the apps that I use).

>>61350685
lmfao

>>61350443
My X220 with HSDPA modem serves my needs.

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>>61350443
>sending your biometrics to the botnet
>a literally physical key, and thus infinitely inferior to a password in your head

Fucking normie summerfag... kill yourself onegai.

>>61350668
Touch ID checks whether if its a live tissue or not before unlocking the phone. A severed finger won't open an iPhone. Don't know about Android.

>>61350488
Said the iToddler stuck using the same phone since 2007.

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I had one and never used because it's much more simplier to sweep to the side.
>inb4 what about peopl using ur phone!
Plenty of apps to hide things you don't want on the gallery.

>>61351098

>Don't know about Android.

Android is an operating system. It has no influence on the finger print validating process. The finger print scanner does this.

>>61350443
Why do I need that shit?

>>61350443
I have a flip fone

>>61350665
I'd murder for such hips

>>61350443
>have Nexus 6P
>don't use fingerprint scanner because i don't want google to have my fingerprint (too)

>>61351179

You managed to use that phone without ever laying your finger on that sensor? That's neat.

>>61351192
yup. it's not in a really "natural" position

2017 You still use privacy-stealing, anti-freedom facebook toys for no goddamn fucking reason.

This is fucking stupid. The worst technology ever invented and people will actually defend this garbage despite all its bullshit. Fuck people.

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>>61351242

>>61350443
I have always wondered if you could use these fingerprint scanners with your dick tip. Everytime you want to unlock your phone or your laptop you'd have to pull out your dick, wouldnt that be great!?

>>61351257
>getting an erection will change your 'password'

>>61351255
You must be 18 or over to post on 4chan.

I can tell you're an underage little shit that can't even fucking read and don't even realize that my message isn't about a fucking opinion.

But of course, you're underage and afraid someone is going to take away your shitty little internet toy one day. I hope they do so I can drink your fucking delicious goddamn tears.

>>61350443
good goy, send all your fingerprints to general CIA/Google database. Good goy!
Here, have some advertisements and telemetry in return!

>>61351318
I'm 31. I also don't use smart phones. I just think that people should have the freedom to choose what they want.

>>61351257
You can but chances are they will be unlocked by any dick.

>>61351349
woman hate this trick

>>61351349
your mum is unlocked by any dick

>>61351340
You shouldn't have the freedom to choose something that actively harms you, particularly when it is something that is marketed by lies and bullshit and its very existence is only because governments and companies want to fucking track and own you.

Mobile devices should be outlawed and their use a crime against humanity.

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>>61351445
Yyou should have been dictated what to use and how to use.

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>smartphones

>>61350457
The California DMV already has mine and I somehow trust them less than apple

>>61350456
Nice bait. Here's your (You)

>>61350443
The lg v10 is one of the worst phone Ive ever owned, screen retention, bootloops, shitty battery life, shitty fingerprint scanner, dac makes a weird fucking noise while charging glad Im getting rid of this junk.

>>61350488
>itoddler saying androids are stuck in 2007
it's just precious

You can be compelled to give a fingerprint, you can't be compelled to give a pin.

>>61350949
If they really wanted it there's nothing you could do to stop them (have you ever thrown a cup into the trash?).
But that's fucking stupid. No government gives a shit about a single member of the country unless there's a very good reason to care..... And you are not important at all.

>>61350949
Idk about your country but I am pretty sure they scan your fingerprint when you get a passport or ID, so they should already have it.

>>61352129
You mean the same fingerprint that could get pulled off my doorknob? They still won't get into my phone with it.

>>61352201
not with the fingerprint.
but with the backdoor

>>61350689
Almost all governments of the countries I've visited have collected my prints at the border. I mean EU as a whole and US, for starters. And I trust those even less than my android.

>>61351445
>You wouldn't have the freedom to choose-
Dropped

>>61350816
>>61350763
>>61350789
Yes, governments can compel you to use your fingerprint to unlock your phone. This is why when you power on your phone, it requires a password/passcode. Just say you forgot the code and you are fine.

>>61350443
For serious security, finger print to unlock devices are really fucking bad, they shouldn't be used the same as password but as identification

Why do you autists care so much about phones? We all know no one on /g/ has any social life.

I have a first gen moto g and almost never use it except for when i'm on the shitter or in the tub

i can't imagine a scenario where i'd want to spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars on a device i'll barely ever use

>>61350443
My Mi4s has one on the back but I never use it because my dumbass hands always miss it.

>>61350443
Identification != Authentication

>>61350462
>>>niggers don't exist

>>61350443
>2017
>giving google and chinks your fingerprint.

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I enjoy typing my 16 number pin..

>>61350485
>implying i have a lock screen.

>>61353221
>>>61350462
>>>>niggers don't exist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>implying i live in country with niggers

Ameriturd btfo

Hoping the next note gets the scanner on the screen. If it does I'll upgrade from my s8

because compact phones are dead

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>>61350443
>Fingerprint scanner

That is old news grandpa. Iris scanner will be the next thing for phone development. Apple couldn't build TouchID into the touch screen on the IPhone Edition, so they went with an iris scanner. And like everything in the tech market everyone else will follow like sheep.

>>61354000
Samshit already does iris scanning, I'm sure Apple will get credit for investing it though

>>61350763
For reals

>>61350443
I have one but I turned it off.

I like to check my lock screen so having it instantly unlock to my homescreen by just pressing the lock button was inconvenient.

>>61350665
What's her name?

>>61350468
Manlet detected. Can't hold a big boy v10? sounds like you have a bad or worn battery... Now explain "screen retention", or were you referring to your slender butterfingers?

>>61350443
Idgaf, I don't even lock my phone.

It's 2017.
The iphone SE and 6S can both be purchased for around $250 or less if you know where to look.

Why would anyone buy an Android device anymore? Don't you realize that when you text a girl on an Android she gets a big green bubble on her iphone that basically tells her you are poor?

>>61354322
I don't even use a simcard in my phone, why should I care about green buble or some shit.

>>61354000
I wear glasses so it's going to be real fun having to remove my glasses to unlock my phone.

Multiple governments have my fingerprints already.

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>>61351445
>you shouldn't have the freedom to choose

>>61354322
>he texts girls

>>61354352
I have an S8 and it will read my iris with glasses and contacts. It only really has trouble in the bright sunlight.

I've let plenty of other people try to unlock with theirs to see if it was just letting anyone in but no one has gotten through yet.

>>61350462
is you a nipponese samurai-sensei-sama-hai?
ook ook says the darkie as it takes away your phone

Everyone here clearly hates the LG V10,
Any LG V20 owners here though?? Highly considering getting one for the big screen +microSD/batt.

>>61351652
I don't know what country you live in but my government doesn't sell my fingerprints to Google.

>>61353236
>number
jesus son, do you have any idea how easy is to brute force a 16 digit number? Like 5 minutes

>>61350492
Why? Its not like battery degrades immensely for a few years. My nexus 4 seems to drain just fine even if its 4 years old

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ITT idiots complaining about government collected bio-metrics, when their picture was recorded for a driving license, and can be searched with complete accuracy with facial recognition technology.

>>61351614
>>61352201
This is such a disingenuous argument. Most people don't believe the government is targeting them specifically, and so don't worry about the government sending physical agents to their home to collect their personal information because that would cost a tremendous sum of money and time for each individual targeted.
Collecting digtial information that is already parsed by a third party, on the other hand, is near instant and almost free. There's no reason for the them NOT to collect your data and the system required to do so is already in place, so why wouldn't they take it?

Just because you aren't expecting men in black suits to kick in your door in the dead of night doesn't mean you should leave your biometric data in a spot you know is already under surveillance. That's stupid. That's something a stupid person would do.

>>61354322
Goddamn i didnt notice it was fucking 2017 already.

>buy a phone with a fingerprint scan
>lose the finger I use to unlock it in an accident
>have to deal with the fact that I lost my finger and an $800 phone and all the information in it
No thanks.

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>>61355112
>not registering multiple fingers

>>61355112
Are you retarded? the fingerprint has a backup password option you autist

>>61350443
But I do, and the reader works much better than the one in OP's pic

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>>61355112
did u get brain dmg to? holy fucking shit

>>61350443
I don't even use a lock screen.

>>61354628
Reporting in, one of my favorite phones; I've had it for about 6 months probably, seems like it will last me a long time.

>>61354192
No one knows.

>>61350443
I'm still using my 1st gen Moto G

I've been using it for the bank apps wich is really useful and fast but I do hope I never get robbed and forced to open my bank account because one single press unlocks my entire bank account.

>>61356079
have you thought about not using fingerprint to authenticate bank things?

>>61356103
Fingerprint, password or bankcard reader, one choice for all.
I chose the finger print. It unlocks Android Pay too so whoever steals my phone already has acces to my credit card.

Let's not forget that (((touchID))) got completely fucked by a bunch of latte sipping hipster kids sitting in a cellar in berlin.

And that was a design failure, not a bug. There is no fix.

I'm not good enough goy to give my fingerprints to (((them))) for no reason.

>>61350443
You can unlock them by scanning random finger 4 times, this thing is more loose than crackwhore's cunt.

Thanks for rubbing the fact that I'm fucking poor and can't afford your fucking finger print scanning phone in my broke ass face.

>>61356587
At least you're honest, and don't try to use muh privacies as an excuse for your peasantry status.

I have a fingerprint scanner on my Oneplus but like fuck am I going to trust a random chinese company with my fingerprints

i have a galaxy s8 plus

>>61351468
Smartphones compensate for dumb people. It makes their life easier, and it only took billions of dollars worth of infrastructure made and maintained by smart people to make stupid people be able to compete with smart people.
Also,
>giving the botnet your biometric data
Very good goy.

>>61350456
Is this 2013?

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>>61354738
It's not for protection against the government as I have no crimes to hide. It's for nosey family members so they can't remember it when I enter it in front of them.
My retarded brother uses a 5 number pin which I found out immediately by standing behind his back, now I read his whatsapp and messages/photos whenever I want to.

But I do

>>61350468
The only phone better than this one is the LG G3
>>61350492
>>61354203
It is slightly too big. I'm 6 ft size 11.5 shoes and I just done like how it's not that comfy holding one hand sideways

>>61354836
There's no quicker charge than a spare battery. Camping? Phone can work for a week if you have a couple spares. I will trade battery swap ability over water proofing any day

>>61350443
Fingerprints aren't secret and you can't reliably change then on a regular basis. Using them as passwords is fucking retarded.

>147 replies

>>61356019
Does it lag much at all?
How's the battery??
And what do you use the second screen for?

I'm torn between the V20 and the Mate 9

>>61350443
>Not secure, regularly opened with random fingers
>Always have your "key" on your person which means it's easy for someone else to use it, eg when sleeping.
>Can be compelled to open by law enforcement
>Gives your fingerprint to your large corporation and government of choice
Why the fuck would you ever use this instead of a code? Because it's marginally more convenient?

>>61357328
Different guy but battery is average.
Does not really lag at all.
I use the second screen for toggles.
Really enjoy the quad dac.

>>61357621
How quickly does the DAC drain the battery?
Do you miss not having hardware buttons like a home button or at least a power button on the side?
Does the fingerprint scanner feel flimsy after time?

Do you think it would last you 3+ years?

>>61350443
Can't afford it.

>>61351471
>California
please die

>>61350443
>FBI:Cut off his finger and unlock his phone!
>FBI:Beat him up for 5 mins until he gives his password

I wanna keep my fingers desu.

>>61350457
Fingerprints are stored locally.

>>61357654
It depends on the headphones you use but it is noticeable . Low impedance headphones should not see that much battery drain and high impedance ones will drain the phone quickly.
No, power button is conveniently placed.
At one point it felt flimsy, but that went away over time.

I certainly will with a good case and tempered screen protector.

>>61354628
I have the v20, it's great but every once in a while I get mild image retention, started not long ago. Have had the phone for 7 months now
It goes away after a bit but it's annoying

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>>61350443
>wanting a phone
who you gonna call?

>>61350456
I have a 6P and my own finger won't unlock it unless it's in the same orientation I programmed it with.

>>61357907
>>61357947
Any other cons with it that you've noticed after having it?
How is LG's UI? Did you use a different launcher?

>>61350443
The 5th amendment doesn't cover fingerprints. Therefore, they're less secure than a password. Besides, your fingerprint is trivial to acquire. In theory, a good password is impossible to crack.

>>61358149
It's fine but I use Nova just because it's what I was used to with my previous phone.
Image retention is the only issue I have with mine, and just unlucky on my part, obviously you're not guaranteed to get it down the line

I don't own a cellphone.

I don't need a shitty burger app tiny ass screen to check my facebook 24/7 worrying about likes and how many niggers your wife fucked today.

I'm also not a homo man child, that thinks a status symbol = apple trash and white plastic.

>>61358202
Who cares. I'm not doing any super hacker spy shit on my phone. It's more convenient to press a sensor than type in a password or even swipe a pattern.

>>61358253
What version of Android are you on?
I fear that LG only gives the new version of Android when it releases, and never updates it.

>>61358558
7.0 still
Apparently update is in the works but idk when haven't been keeping up with any of that since 7.0 seems to just werk

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>>61350443
Convince me to upgrade over comfy-tier pic related.

>>61358663
Really? I doubt they'll even move up to Android O
And 7.1.2 adds fingerprint scanner functionality, so I would fucking hope the V20 gets it

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this is my phone in 2017

it's most advanced feature is that it can play music from a memory card

i've never had a smartphone

i develop responsive web pages for living

>>61358312
If browsing 4chan became illegal tomorrow, then you'd care. The nothing to hide argument is retarded.

Is Z5 the only phone that gets it right? iPhone placement is bad and so is the back. Why can't everyone put it on the power button.

Also I love it. I hated using a passcode but this makes it easier to unlock than no passcode and I can make my actual password difficult rather than just a 4 digit number.

>>61359176
>doesn't have a Smartphone
>tech illiterate on a Smartphone
>"web dev"
Explains a lot desu.

>>61359093
What's wrong with your fingerprint scanner? Works fine for mine on 7.0

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>>61359265
i know reasonable amount about da browsers and 'apps' and ux patterns on smartphones

it's just that i live in eastern europe and don't have much money, been busy with health issues and neither do i really communicate with people

>>61359351
I live in Eastern Europe and I have 2 smartphones for playing online games. I don't even call people.

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>>61350443
My phone has one, I just don't use it. There's no point when I can use a pin lock that I can't be physically forced to unlock.

Anyways, three US dollars have been deposited into your PayPal account, NSA shill #3478.

>>61350456
There are many security concerns with fingerprint readers, such as the possibility that you can have your fingers forced onto it against your will, or that people can hack it using photos of your hands. What you said is not an issue. Don't be retarded.

>>61350488
Fuck off, iBaby. My Android phone from early 2011 had one. Pic related.

>>61359429
lel wtf can you even play on them?

>>61359439
Weebshit.

>>61359474
like what? that fire emblem crap? don't tell me you play pokemon go, vasily

>>61359492
FGO.

>>61359284
The new version adds scrolling and notification access through the fingerprint scanner
But LG doesn't update their phones so...

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>>61358312
> It's more convenient to press a sensor than type in a password or even swipe a pattern
What if you're driving and you want somebody in the passenger seat to do something with your phone, like make a call or text someone? What if you want somebody like a nephew or somebody else to use your phone without bothering you or coming back to you every time they accidently put the phone back into it's locked mode? Baka-ass motherfucker.

>>61359793
>letting anyone touch your electronic devices

No.

>>61359793
>What if you're driving and you want somebody in the passenger seat to do something with your phone, like make a call or text someone?

Have them do it on their own phone. Don't they have their own phone? Stop hanging out with poorfags.

>What if you want somebody like a nephew or somebody else to use your phone

Then you are a security risk and a threat to society. Nobody should be touching other people's shit. What are you, a commie?

>>61350443
Finger prints aren't unique and anyone who thinks otherwise is retarded

Is there away to make the finger print reader only active when in proximity to another device, let's say a smart watch detecting your heartbeat? From what I can tell, the weakness in biometrics comes from the fact that the code can't change and can be duplicated, so what if there was a way to cross refrence that data to ensure it was you?

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I don't want my fingerprint in another database(?)

>>61350443
>2017
>owning a smartphone
enjoy the botnet

>even the top notch ones can be easily fooled
>slap some 50 cent chink scanner on a phone for "enthusiasts"

>>61359992
you could set all that up with pam

>>61350443
>Few more weeks before apple throws fingerprint sensors under the bus for a bigger screen

What do you think they're even going to do with your prints?

>>61350457
Did you ever have some cops come to your school when you were younger to teach you about the law or whatever, and at one point they fingerprint you as "a game"? They already have it.

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>push a button to bring a phone out of sleep
>push another button to unlock the phone
Androidpajeets will defend this.

I don't have a use for a fingerprint scanner.

passwords are for faggots

>>61357989
that's really shitty. The OnePlus 2 could read your fingerprint on any orientation as long as it was the right finger

Consumer whore

>>61362602
>I don't have a use for a fingerprint scanner.

How are you typing?