/tpg/ - Thinkpad General

first for 16:10

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>>61338068
First for 2570p "the butthurt inducer"

X220 backspace key not working and sometimes randomly getting stuck? Any ideas?

>>61338126
third for 4:3

Second for 5:4 and remember to ignore autists of any kind.

Every StinkPad I've ever owned has had a noisy fan

>>61338136
hey hes back
you fix your shitty 2570p? what happened to it?

>>61338151
and this is a great remind to lean your fans boys.
if you can hear them its your fault

>>61338163
Nothing happened to it. Are you retarded?

Picked up a lot of 3 t400 laptops on ebay. Arrived a couple of days ago. Gonna libreboot one for myself and possibly give one to a friend of mine. Just waiting for some breadboard cables to begin the procedure.

The laptops are in good shape and I also got an ssd and 8GB for my thinkpad. I was a little mislead however...the item descriptions and pics didn't show webcam and they all came with them. I was curious as to how vulnerable a webcam is to hack into. Otherwise I might just try to remove it.

>>61338177
Cleaning it won't do shit if it's got bad or dry bearings

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>>61338183
+ egpu master race

>>61338206
would you sell one? email if interested

>>61338183
oh there was a rumor going on that your shitbook broke and you couldnt post because you had a dumb phone
I normally dont believe /g/ but considering how inflated your ego is due to that glorified space heater
I mad an exception

What's the Dell equivalent of T420?

>>61338226
good point
clean, lube or swap out your fan if you can hear it

>>61338269
Latitude E6420

>>61338206
just unplug it anon
or snip it off entirely

>>61338265
No, it didn't break. I just don't shitpost in every single lenovo marketing general shitthread like some of NEET trash here. But when I do I really enjoy the butthurt induced in lenovo fanbois.

>>61338244
I might. If the procedure goes well and I don't fuck up the board during process I might sell one for $100~

>>61338313
well anyway welcome back
your shitposting keeps the thread alive when all the burgers are asleep
also
>lenovo marketing general
pls we have dell people too now

>>61338332
k..keep me posted. email me so I can pester you in a month in case you forget.

>>61338332
Enjoy having your address posted here

>>61338349
>>61338347
enjoy your new christian singles account

>>61338068
Is laptopcloseout.com reputable ?

>>61338375
w/e I'm a christian anyways. Need a gf too

>>61338409
their price are at earshot range of newegg's
dont know whether you should trust them

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>>61338068
hey guys idk if this is the right place to post this but my mum got a thinkpad x230 and whenever you boot it, it just turns itself off after 2 seconds anyone got any ideas my bet is on the charging cable because when i take out the battery it and plug in the charger it doesnt boot. anyone else had this problem? or knows a fix if its not the charger?

redpill me on dual core CPUs.
In the 400€ range is it worth getting them or should they be discarded?

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>>61338648
depends on the cpu

>>61338347
There's bound to be another tpg thread. Check back about mid next week. I'll post update info here.

>>61338707
>cpuboss
stop embarrassing yourself, anon.
Use geekbench or passmark to compare CPUs. NEVER use cpuboss, even when it's linking to passmark results.

>>61338768
Ok I will

>>61338635
Sounds like it's running from whatever residual charge is in the battery. The charger might be at fault. If not, then it's most likely a problem with the charger jack, or something on the motherboard. The charger jack is a replaceable module on ThinkPads, which plugs into the motherboard.

The easiest thing to do is try another charger.

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>>61339161
yeah m8 thanks didnt know that the jack was replaceable when i go to the store tomorrow ill try another charger if that doesn't work then ill see if i can get a jack of amazon or some chink shit

>>61338707
take a grain of salt from cpuboss its a bunch of unreliable info

Pleb tier pajeet here.
Is this a good deal? X230, https://www.worthit.in/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-x230, $320
Usage: College, GNAA/loonix, reading pdfs, koding, movies, browsing and watersports porn.

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>tfw one day

>T60p 4:3 1600x1200 FlexView screen
>NMB keyboard
>T61 motherboard with post 08/08 non-defective Nvidia chip
>8 GB RAM
>Penryn CPU
>Middleton's BIOS (SATA2, wifi whitelist removal)
>decent battery somehow for a 11 year old laptop
Is there anything more comfy AND useful? I'm pretty sure you can survive university with that thing as long as you don't need 3D rendering.

Im the anon that bought the T450s for 450 yuros. Wew, I got cold feet and canceled/ordered a refund on the order. I think I won't buy out of impulse ever again, thank you /tpg/

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>>61339682
what you're buying instead?

>>61339724
Nothing for now. I thought on upgrading my shitty Lenovo B590 with a T450s but I think I'll just wait until october to see if the new Thinkpad Retro is worth its while.

The jewry in eBay is astounding here in Europe (bad specs at much higher prices than the USA).

>>61339576
Somebody? Anybody?

>>61338409
I'd recommend Arrow Direct, other options include Iron Mountain, Green Citizen, EPC if you want to go the reused market.

>>61339823
/tpg/ is slow, I don't know of anyone who is in India that posts here...

>>61339584
Could always try to do the Core 2 Quad mod.
I am considering shoving a W500 mobo into a T60p.

>>61338807
What is so wrong about CPU boss? did they do something for this criticism? I don't know any of this until now.

What should I be on the lookout for if I want to buy a T60 or any other 4:3 Thinkpad for just web browsing and some office work? Can you put SSDs in them?

>>61340060
they cherrypick passmark/geekbench results, while completely ignoring average results.
Passmark should be visited directly, because lots of retarded people submit reports of overheating CPUs which lowers it's score.

Anyone here with a quadcore in a T420? I read that it can be done but not sure if it requires modification or not. I got a i7-2720qm from some scrapped gayman laptop and was wondering if the 90w powerbrick and dock would handle it as a drop-in

So, is that photo in the OP supposed to be official and the laptop he's holding is the 25th Anniversary model or... what exactly is going on there?

>>61340226
Cooling is an issue too.

>>61340226
well considering that the t520 can do a quadcore cpu just fine I don't see why the t420 couldnt
just watch temps and if you have a dgpu turn it off
>>61340262
thats just a yoga

StinkPads are garbage

>>61340316
t420 can't handle quad cores without throttling

>>61340450
I've heard you can rig a W520 cooler in there and solve the throttling issues.

>>61340512
I highly doubt that, the cooler in my w520 is fuck huege compared to the one in my t430 and t420

>>61340450

Which is why the Dell Latitude E6420 is a superior device. Core i7-2760QM here in mine, runs without any issues, with the Nvidia Quadro GPU as well and the dual heatpipe HSF setup, I redo the Arctic Silver 5 twice a year, max temps full bore 92C without any problems at all, no throttling ever.

I love ThinkPads, I really do, but they are not better than most of the older Latitudes in many respects.

>>61340532
Apparently a lot of bits need to be totally removed.

>>61340532
Actually, I may be thinking of the T520's cooler.

>>61338068
hey guys, I have to choose between a T420 and a L512, which one do I choose?

>>61340512
You heard wrong. W520/T520 are 15,6" laptops with BIGASS heatsinks compared to T420. Stop spreading FUD.
The first usable 14" thinkpad that can handle quad cores is T430.

>>61340573
Neither. Get a MacBook

>>61340575
I'm not spreading FUD, I swear I've heard of somebody doing this.

>>61340573

X220

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If I've got a x230 with a non-US keyboard, can I just swap it out for a x230 US keyboard and it'll work just fine?

Is there any way to get a classic keyboard for the x200 without functions keys? I hate them.

>>61340774
Yes.

>>61340802
Lol, no.

>>61340774

Does the same apply to the x220? I have UK ISO and thought I was stuck in this hell.

>>61340774

I thought ThinkPad users had some level of basic tech knowledge? Yes, retard.

>>61340634
>>61340589

goddammit /g/, those were not the options.

>>61340863
>>61340807
Just double checking before I spend 20 bucks on a keyboard

>>61340863
His a XX30 owner. Those tend to be special kind of mentally challenged.

If a T420 comes with 4GB of ram, is that 2 x 2GB sticks? Can you replace only one of them?

>>61340852
Yes.

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>>61339576
>>61339823
OK, captain pajeet reporting here....
That deal is expensive desu, try quikr or olx. If you are in Delhi, go to Nehru place™ or wazirpur market™....You'll probably even get one for as low as the Burgers have it for(~200$ +/- 50$)
Personally, I'd advise you to either buy 2570p over x230, (if you are looking for an ultraportable) or t430. I've heard that the build quality on x230 is not upto the mark(cracked palmrest over express card slot, gap between bezel and the screen, pieces of plastic falling apart etc).
Anyway, the x230s generally go for 13k-15.5k rupees for default config(4gb ram, 320gb hdd, i5 3320m). Do look for IPS displays when buying too, you might get lucky as the shop keepers can be morons and not know what they are selling.

>>61340985
I'm pretty sure one stick is under the laptop, and the other under the keyboard. What I'm wondering is if the machine will work with one 4GB stick and one 2GB stick.

>>61340912
Thanks anon, ordering one now.

anyone PLEASE, do you know why my x230 throttles at 75 degrees ? Goes from 3-something Ghz to 2Ghz.

>>61338241
How is it connected?

>>61340890
could be one 4gb stick, could be 2gb sticks. And yes you can replace them.

I wish they would reveal the Retro so i can get disappointed and buy a current model

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didn't want to pay thinkpad tax. coming next friday to monday

postal services are still in the fucking dark ages

>>61341724
>core2duo
Ya dun fucked up.

>>61340885

I'm a X230 owner too though, also an X220 (motherboard which I intend to build up as a project) owner. I just don't have the keyboard autism. Layout isn't great yes, but the keys feel amazing to actually type on. Chiclets also give a better sense of location, you can feel your way and know where your hands are without even thinking. I had a T61 at one point, the keyboard wasn't anything amazing.

>>61341773
its only going to be a shitposting linux machine anyway. i've got another laptop and desktop for mein gaymen

>>61341819
i'm sorry but in no conceivable universe is chiclet good

>>61341912
Ah, cool.

>>61341929

Wonderful subjective opinion. The very design of the keys makes the actuation and response much more satisfying. Do you have some experience with both and have anything to say about the actual key mechanisms and typing feel?

>>61342031
ok, fair. Chiclet keys are harder to distinguish because they are flat, and they have no feedback because of almost zero travel.

>>61342067
also, its almost impossible not to break the mechanism if you need to take it apart to clean it

I'm thinking of buying x260, is it a good model?

>>61341912
You could've gone for t60 or older models....You dun fucked up!

I'm looking to replace the SP3. Ideally something current gen. I'm in Ireland so it's difficult getting second hand ones that I can inspect in person.

Budget would be about 1,200 - 1,500 dollars.

I really need something that has good cooling, battery life, an SSD + HDD (can install one later on) and can be ugpraded to take 32GB of RAM eventually.

Also, I know it's thinkpad general but I assume the XPS series isn't part of business laptops?

Also is it worth getting longer warranty from Dell/Lenovo? I tend to take reasonably good care of my electronics.

>>61341621
expresscard to hdmi cable. eGPU is connected to the main monitor via HDMI>DVI cable. Power is provided via Dell DA-2 PSU. External fan is powered from unused 6pin 12V power connector with potentiometer in between.

>>61342289
t60 is too large (i wanted a 12" system) and they go for too much money due to thinkpad tax . anything older than a t60 would have been worse than this

>>61342067
>Chiclet keys are harder to distinguish because they are flat, and they have no feedback because of almost zero travel.

You're clearly not talking about the modern Thinkpad "chicklet" keyboard then.

The keys aren't flat and have a big amount of travel for a laptop keyboard.

>>61342500
>thinkpad tax
excuse me, what you mean by "thinkpad tax" ?

>>61342553
a t40 (a much older and slower laptop) was more expensive than the HP because its a thinkpad, so people run up the bids because /g/ has shilled them so much

>>61342553
Nicer things cost more money.
This causes /g/ to sperg out.

>>61342537
all chiclets are the same in comparison to a real keyboard, flat and poor travel. whether a particular model is allegedly slightly better is irrelevant as a real keyboard will always best it

>>61342500
oh, and a t60 is 4:3, so grills would mock me

>>61342659
Yes, bringing an external keyboard will best it.

But why would you even care what keyboard your laptop has when you're not even going to use it?
Point is: modern Thinkpad keyboards aren't worse than older ones.

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>>61341724
>>61342553
>>thinkpad tax

You haven't felt anything till you get hit by used Toughbook tax.

>>61342751
i respectfully disagree

>>61342761
i noticed. However, as a young male of an age ending in -teen, i'd be bullied carrying one of those

>>61342838
Underage b&

>>61338068
Starting to study IT at university next fall. Need good laptop.

Pros and cons of a new ThinkPad?

>>61342878
pros
>blowjob from the sys admin

cons
>it loosing all its value because everyone wants a mac pro

>>61342838
I-I'm 18, I s-swear

Only ThinkPad I might consider buying new would be the 25th anniversary retro one if they don't pull some pants on head retarded shit with it or price it at a point where only the most die-hard thinkpad autists will pay for it. Buying a new laptop is also especially painful as a Canadian right now due to LeafBux being back to literal monopoly money value.

>>61342838
you're 113 years old?

>>61338648
while quads are indisputably faster Id say youd be hard pressed to find a general usage case where a dual core sandy bridge or up would struggle
unless youre running something really specific that requires a lot of cpu horse power youll be fine

Did the T420 come with an IPS screen option?

>>61342067

Almost zero travel? Well this is how I know you've not used one. I'm not talking about all chiclets ever made, only ThinkPad ones. They have plenty of travel, the same amount as the xx20 keyboards and before. Not talking about something like an X1 Carbon or something either, only the thicker ones and only the xx30 gen as that's all I have experience with, a T430s and an X230 with the only difference being the T430s' was backlit. I have no idea what the xx40 and onwards feel like.

>>61343381
Not officially.

>>61340802
>He doesn't use the function keys
What kind of faggotry is this

>>61343417
Any alternative that does come with one in the same price range?

>>61343446
X220

>>61341599
Check the bios, there's an option that lowers clock speeds when your CPU reaches a certain temperature.

Could be that, also reapply thermal paste to be sure.

I want a T60 for web browsing and 4:3 video playback in mpv, how much will it struggle? I might try to upgrade it if I can.

>>61341929
Even our God rossman admitted chiclet is better despite the layout.

>>61343457
Looking for something with a little bigger screen. I have $120 to work with.

>>61343499
Bigger screen, or IPS, the choice is yours. All the tablet ThinkPads have IPS or AFFS panels.

>>61338068
so how much is new thinkpad retro going to cost?

Are they going to jew more than apple on sentiment?

>>61342878
I'd get one for the keyboard alone. Infact, that's what I did. Good combination of a cheap laptop with decent specs and good keyboard. Only thing it doesn't have is all the other bragging rights related to thinkpads, such as durability and stuff (not that i think anyone is ever putting this to the test intentionally).

Just make sure you configure it with a good screen, 1366x768 is workable but painful.

>>61343537
David hill left Lenovo some weeks ago, thinkpad retro is a marketing scheme.
It's going to be shit.

>>61338226
>I LET MY SHIRT GET DIRTY FOR MONTHS AND NOW IT'S STARTING TO WEAR AWAY BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN WASHING IT AND IT'S CORRODING BECAUSE OF THIS
>MUST BE THE SHIRT'S FAULT

Do I go with 8gb dual channelled ram, or 12gb(8+4gb) single channel ram? Exactly how big a difference would it make in the igpu performance especially in gaymes?

>>61343686
Dual channel.

>>61343686
Pick what came with your machine.
My x200 didn't accept single-channel ram, only dual-channel, T400 series is the same.

>>61338068
hey /g/

do any of you know if an x230 is an EFI system or a BIOS system

>>61338068
fuck that keyboard

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A few months(?) ago, a chip came off of my X220 next to the function key. I just put it back on and covered it with electrical tape, but it kept coming off so I removed it. Just today I noticed a crack between the escape and mute keys, same piece of plastic that the chip came off of. It's barely visible in pic related.
Could/should I replace it?

>>61342500
WHat is hinkpad tax

>>61338068
Where is a good place to go to rub up with chink pads ?

>>61342438
why the fuck do you want an hdd on a laptop?
at that range you can get an x1 carbon or whatever with 1tb ssd.

>cuckpad
>good

>>61343697
>>61344194
Thanks!

>>61345135
LUL chinkshit quality

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is there any difference on using 1866Mhz memory on a X230, to lets say, common 1333mhz memory?

>>61345135
mine has a chip in the exact same spot. don't bother replacing it who cares it's cosmetic damage on a $100 laptop

>>61345135
Looks like the keyboard bezel, part number 04W1405.
Pretty expensive for a piece of plastic, goes for over $20 on ebay. Might want to just glue it.
Download the manual and you could figure this out yourself

>>61340957
Thanks anon. May God bless you with a Scatinavian wife.

Thinking of using a new Thinkpad for audio production.

Basically: I'd use Renoise, Libreboot, and a lightweight distro (like antiX) or one made for audio production. Any tips?

So I can't get a t420/t430 with a FHD screen? Ugh. I really wanted a 1080 screen.

>>61346487
theres a mod by either a russian dude from reddit or a chinese dude from 51bn forums

/tpg/s thoughts on the X1 Carbon?

Where can I get the x220/t420 keyboards in Canada? I can see them on eBay for $20 , but it's always around $40 shipping.

>>61346487
what's the cheapest business laptop i can get with a 1080 screen?

One of the buttons for the trackpad on my T430 broke and it's now a real pain in the ass to use. Do I need to replace the entire palm rest or can I just buy a new trackpad assembly somewhere?

>>61346707
aliexpress

>>61346821
This please

>>61338206

I didn't know T400s had an option for a webcam. Mine doesn't have one, and I wouldn't buy a laptop that included one.

>>61342227
Mine's pretty comfy, but I cheaped out and didn't get the backlit keyboard and I keep wondering how it might have been.

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>sixteen by nine is just fine

>>61340075
Yes you can, T60's are limited to SATA I speeds & 3GB RAM, on T61 (R61, X61), you can flash middleton bios (if your battery works) and get SATA II speeds, while having the wifi card whitelist removed.

I haven't used a T60p in a few years, so i am not sure how well its performance will be, but an SSD and 3GB is all you really need unless youre trying to watch 1080p livestreams.

>>61340131
I use passmark as a standard, as its numbers are just easy to deal with, other sites I do like so you can have a variety of speed/tests but it can be overwhelming.

>>61340537
Quad E620's were notorious for overheating in the early days, Dell used a single heatpipe for them lol
You'd have to get a double heatpipe HSF to be safe.

though an E6420 can get an quad i7 a lot cheaper, and new thermal paste plus bios update fixes the overheating issues.

>no mSAtA

>>61341634
Thats not how the Osborne Effect works...

>>61342619
the T40 might break with grabbing it with one hand, but at least its not a fucking HP which will die faster than a MacBook Pro.

>>61342761
i want to get a CF ToughBook but fuck, it is hard justifying those prices when I could just get a mac...

>>61343485
You might be able to get CrystalHD card to play video better.

>>61347056
Unfortunately the lot that I purchased all had them and I was under the impression they would not have one...I am happy they arrived fully functional and in good shape though. Are you satisfied with yours?. I really haven't tinkered with mine all too much as of yet. They shipped with Win7 and with only 2GB RAM performance is a little lackluster.

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Are there any major problems with the first generation X1 carbon?
Considering getting this www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/doubleview/laptops//1153683731

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my dell latitude e6540 is coming in tommorow =w=
it has a 4810mq and a radeon 8790m
it has an ssd though, but its only 256gb, should i replace the ssd with a 500gb (or 750gb if i decide to take the hdd from some old laptop) hdd or should i just keep the 256gb ssd?

>>61347576
because having a 1440x900 screen is somehow going to make this better?

>>61347775
keep
it is unlikely you will use that much storage on a laptop anyways

>>61345731
A reasonable uptick in igpu performance, though if you are gonna get 1866, might as well spring that last bit and get some 2133 ram. It last as fast as laptop ram got for ddr3 officially, and you can call the newer gen x owners bandwidth cucks, since dual channel 2133 btfo single channel 2133

>>61347789
eh its just that im paranoid that ill run out of space, im dualbooting on my current laptop i have and i already have like 60gb of space on windows (that probably just windows though, since on gnu/linux i have 100gb of space left)

is the speed of the ssd worth it?

>>61347777
>using the 1366×768 of 16:10 screens
mac fags get out

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>>61347775
>=w=
What did he mean by this?

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Question, are there docks that are compatible with X230 and T420?

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anyone try to coreboot/libreboot a t61/r61?

do these having intel ME and will the cleaner work?

>>61347841
How long does it take to boot?
Ssd will just speed up that.

>>61347616
hi! I think you look cute! also what business laptop should I buy myself.. I'm going to study CS in a few months and can spend around 200gbp.
I need a laptop cause of portability and I'd really like a fhd screen

>>61347938
huh, well i mean the hdd is from 2010 and it takes like about 40 seconds just to load debian from it
i guess an ssd would be much faster

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I have T420 with peculiar issue, if I shake it I'll lose all sounds from the speaker and the headphone/mic port, ALSA/pulseaudio still shows the sounds playing, shaking the T420 back can restore the sounds.

Is this a problem with sound chip connections? I've opens it up bit couldn't find any loose wire.

Will getting a dedicated USB sound card solve this issue? What about wireless headphones?

>>61346486
tough to say, you'll most likely need an external DAC, a lot of people complain that laptops nowdays have interference, the Thinkpads are no different.

>>61346821
T440s/p, E6440 are the first ones popping out my head.

>>61346642
I was OK with the X1C3 but it felt pretty flimsy when it came to the lid.

>>61347939
Thanks.
X240 might can be gotten with FHD, but dunno GBP price factor. :x

>>61347986
Like 23 seconds.

>yfw a 701c booted faster than my w700ds w/ a patriot SSD

>>61347986
40 secs to load debian?
What

systemd-analyze 

show?

>>61348059
>X240
I really like the trackpad with the physical buttons so I'm not sure..
I might just go with a t430 with an ips screen, is it really that bad? How how long will the battery life last with a 9 cell.
I hope I don't look weird carrying around a super thic laptop in university though

>excellent Linux support
Because it's deprecated hardware.

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>>61348094
cant check right now, cause the hdd is out of the laptop and i formatted it but i do remember it booting up in about 40 (maybe 30ish) seconds on my laptop with a pentium d
its a shit laptop, i know

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Buying a ThinkPad for the first time. Aiming for an x250. What kind batter life can I get from one of these?

>>61347925
The chipset isn't supported in Libreboot. I believe there is Coreboot support if you're happy with a blob or two.
There's no IME on the C2D models.

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I've finally figured out why you worship the track point.
Sleeping on bed with the think pad supported by your legs is the comfiest position to use it and the track point makes it so easy and strain free, though I had to disable the track pad because the left/right click kept getting pressed accidentally and I can't scroll with it comfortably.

>>61343485
It works perfectly well for 720p [spoiler]anime[/spoiler], but expect it to chug on really bloated sites with firefox.

>>61348101
A chip for a T420s or T430s is like $50, literally impossible or buggy if you want 1080p on non-S models.

>>61348239
Could you just bother with notebook review and notebook check forums to see what people get in real world.
jesus christ.

>>61348226
What's the hdd rpm?
Also nice sheets.

>>61348264
alright thanks

t60 seems to have support, so does the t61 qualify?
im using the middleton bios atm

>>61343485
>anime
720p H264 is the maximum you can do, while using mpv configured for low end hardware.
>browsing
Putting aside the limited RAM , " heavy" sites are a no, 4chan is OK but configure 4chanx with your device in mind.
Social media are all webapps now so it's not possible.

>cuckpad
>good

Finished the HP 840 G1
Its cheap, not surprising, but very lackluster, poorly spec'd in the used market.

$150 - 260 // 450 ~ 148 vs 174 (lol this price)

6 Risky - $110 - 210
50 HDD - $130 - 200 // 350
34 SSD - $195 - 260 // 300
19 Refurb - $140 - 290 // 400
4 'New' - $320 - 450 // 540
3 New - $360 - 450 // 800 or 1,200???

68 AUC - $130 - 200 // 300
106 BIN - $150 - 250 // 550
89 i5 - $145 - 230 // 450
36 i7 - $170 - 320 // 525
3 16GB - $260 - 280 // 440

17 Mobo - $40 - 85 // 160
63 Keys - $10 - 25 // 50
3 FHD - $40 - 60 // 90
Touch - None!
70 Batt - $20 - 35 // 50 (a lot of non-OEM)

Cheap as fuck.

>>61348337
Can i make love to you?

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>>61348424
Be gentle.

>>61348357
Thanks for the help.

>>61348447
I am try.

>>61348449
Best of luck anon!

The T430/X230 doesn't have dedicated track pad buttons, would this be a huge disappointment?

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>>61348358
thanks :3
i looked up the hdd and apparently its 5400rpm, i dont know if thats good or not
(https://www.cnet.com/products/toshiba-mk5055gsx-hard-drive-500-gb-sata-300-series/specs/)

>>61348403
No, the t60 uses the 945GM chipset while the t61 has a GM965. Until someone reverse engineers the 965 and figures out how to initialise it without the aid of proprietary binaries there can be Libreboot support.

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I just replaced the screen on my t450, it works but I can't get the bezel back on.. there's lumps where the screw holes are (where I screwed the new screen in. Frick.

Any news about Retropad?

>>61348481
That's the reason why it's slow to boot up.
The SSD would speedd it up significantly, linux doesn't need a lot of space so 50 GB should do, the rest can be taken up by windows an its applications.
Try not to save multimedia files on SSD, and try to ditch dual booting.
Or swap the drives when you need a different OS.

>T400 for $95, great conditions
>Add 8GB RAM (2x4), 850 EVO 240GB i already have
>Upgrade P8600 to T9600 from ebay for $8
Is this the Perfect T400?

>>61348424
you saucey, are you finally updating your site?

you need to shill it more :x

>>61348543
it's going to be shit

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>>61348551
huhh, well then it would be nice for it to boot faster and for it to load stuff faster
i dont really need to dualboot either, so i can just stick with linux
thanks for the help thou, i really appreciate it

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>>61348493
so not even coreboot supports the GM965 chipset then?

>>61348645
Yes, but not in a fully free manner. On most systems coreboot requires the addition of binary blobs to perform hardware initialisation. The T61 is one such case.

>>61348543
imminent disappointment

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Thinking about copping one of these for muh business setup.

Dell u3011 or the 3007wfp/3008wfp

>30"
>16:10
>2560 x 1600
>ips
>10 bit panel
>almost full adobe RGB

Only con imo is that it uses a ton of energy compared to newer monitors and it's also huge as fuck.

Thought about getting a korean 4k monitor but I don't think the hd 4000 igpu can drive it, can't it?

Everything else is 27 1440p garbage.

>>61346821
High specced T530

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>>61348685
thats great to hear.
thankyou very much!

sorry for the trouble

>>61348685
Just to add in case you're not clear on their relationship; Libreboot is not a fork of coreboot, it's a distribution that provides a `simple' installation for a 100% free bios. Given that, Libreboot only supports very specific hardware for which free software is available.

im using this compaq at the moment until i get a new thinkpad, but im noticing this one reflects my image back at me in certain light or whatever
so, do thinkpads (or just specifically the t420) avoid this problem?
thanks

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>>61348731
thanks for the clarification.
thats good info

>>61348743
dont use a IPS display
use a tn panel or get a polarized filter aka "privacy filter/film"

>>61348780
>dont use a IPS display
>use a tn panel

KYS yourself.

matte coatings are a thing...

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>>61348818
>kill yourself yourself

I'm looking for a native 1080p business laptop, are there any decent 1080p thinkpads or will I be looking for a different kind?

>>61348926
It's a meme you dip!

Anyone here have a T470p? I've been searching around for any problems that this model may have before I make the purchase. Please share your experiences.

>>61349493
>go to notebookcheck
>read the review

Any idea how I could get a replacement fan for my first gen 12" thinkpad yoga? It doesn't rotate properly anymore and is loud af

>>61348094
if it shows anything he needs to do a sudo apt-get install sysvinit

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>>61349806
(you)

>>61340573
what the fuck is L512?
literally had to look it up
just get a T420
(or x220 like this anon said >>61340634)

>>61341929
autism?
on my /g/?
more likely than youd think.

>>61341029
just ask the seller how much ram is there under the ram cover
theres either 4 or 2

>>61341724
stop being a huge faggot and tell us what model this is you retard

>>61342684
>implying youre not going to get mocked regardless of what you use

>>61342838
you have to be 18 to post here
also
>implying you wouldnt get bullied for using thinkpad

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>>61342761
this.
>a core2duo penryn toughbook costs as much as a mac or a really nice gaymen ""laptop"" here
>mfw panasonic in captcha

>>61347665
What's a reasonable price for toughbooks in your opinion?

Can someone please send me some links/recommendations for thinkpads that are newer and still have the classic keyboards.
It needs to be under 400€, and a decent cpu.
( btw amazon de links would be pretty nice )

>>61347328
better anon.
it wouldve been better
hows the battery life?

>>61351295
The xx20 is as recent as you getting that ships with the old keyboard. Some xx30s can have the old one swapped in.

>>61347576
>shit website design is totally the aspect ratio's fault
(you)

>>61347757
the battery life is shit

which would improve performance more:
having an ssd instead of a hdd
or having 8gb of memory instead of 4?
and by how much?
(and probably how too, sorry)
thanks

>>61351446
ssd will speed up boot times and applications greatly, ram helps you run shit more quickly and more shit, but doesnt open it up faster.

>>61351454
so am i right in thinking more ram is more beneficial?

>>61343418

F KEYS ARE A MEME

This is specific and won't be answered but I'll ask anyway.
When I use tmux with c-b changed to c-space, the Thinkvantage button triggers the prefix (at least on a tty). This is a problem because I use the Thinkvantage button to turn on the Thinklight. Can I do anything about this?

>>61351558
it will, but so will a SSD
personally if I'm trying to "revive" an older computer, I'll put in a SSD

>>61351184
2510p

>>61347328
No need for a backlit keyboard if you don't look at the keyboard when you type.

>>61351209
18 still ends in teen, which is my age. i already said that anything 4:3 would make grills avoid you

>>61352647
I think owning a Thinkpad besides the silver T470s and X1C would make girls think twice before approaching you

>>61343395
i was talking about the x1 carbon mostly. i understand that chiclet is a necessity in ultra thin laptops but that doesn't mean i have to like it.

>>61338068
So I bought a T430.

Three days later Lenovo find and follow me on Twitter.

Hmm.

>>61352673
Like they'd know it's anything other than 'not a macbook'.

This a good deal? I have never bought a thinkpad before so I don't know

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>>61352731
This sry, forgot picture

>>61352741
The T60 is getting quite old now
What are you planning on doing with it?

>>61352753
As a carry on really; libreboot it and use it for 4chan shitposting, light tier programming and web browsing on the go. Not much demanding

>>61352759
I guess it's good enough for that
I think it's a good deal but you'll also want to factor in getting a new battery

>>61352770
That is true. If I keep the charger around, most places I'll be have an outlet but that is definitely something to consider. Thanks Anon

>>61352673
they pay a lot less attention to trivial things like that than you think. a 4:3 makes you look ultra poorfag, but anything else is just a laptop

>implying women know anything about technology

>>61352759
What a piece of shit. Even for $35 that is a waste of fucking money just to try and fit in here.

>>61352817
>he doesn't know how good the t60 is

help please. Need a poorfag laptop just for watching movies, and shitposting without having to use my desktop.
What's the cheapest laptop with a good 1080p screen, and decent speakers that can play bd quality for 10+ hours? Can I get by with a x200, x220, w500, w520? Thanks.

>>61352647
if a bitch avoids you because of a fucking laptop, - then get another one. Superficial whores are the worst

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>>61348050
Anyone?

>>61352911
The cheapest route would be to get a t520 and swap in a 1080p panel yourself. You can buy the panels for 40-50 dollars and a t520 with a broken screen for 60-80 dollars.

>10+ hours on battery

This is the only thing you won't get.

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How do you use the track point with one hand?

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I'm buying X230, the seller is offering 120 GB brand new WD SSD for extra 60$.
Should I go for it?

>>61353369
Thumb on the buttons and index finger on the trackpoint

>>61353429
It's difficult to use it in reclined position.
This means you'd have a hand always hovering over the keyboard especially if you do "pointer" heavy activity.

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>>61353510
works for me

Do you have Trump hands?

>>61353528
Nah, I have sever lower back problems.
Hemorrhoids, pilonidal cyst, disk prolapse.

>>61353528
Qubes?

>>61353581
Yeah. I panicked a bit when I realized how much of my screen was in the picture. I'm glad I was lucky enough not to dox myself.

>>61353598
Don't worry, /tpg/ is a cool thread.
Just say hi to Caitlin from us.

>>61353528
Why are you using qubes?

>>61353679
It let's me distro hop, use Tor securely, and safely keep my passwords in a nonnetworked VM.

>>61352706
You didn't reinstall windows? How stupid can you be?

>>61353734
>It let's me distro hop
How? and how much RAM do you need?

>>61353528
>Trump hands
>>>/pol/

>>61348480
T430 does
X230 (and X220) have a 'clickpad', it's hinged at the top and the bottom end of it clicks down for right or left click

>>61348698
>Thought about getting a korean 4k monitor but I don't think the hd 4000 igpu can drive it, can't it?
kind of, it can do 4k at 30hz

>>61348743
yes most thinkpads have matte/anti-glare displays

>>61348972
yes almost all 15" models and newer 12" and 14" all offered 1080p

>>61351446
ssd

>>61353406
WD SSD's are rebranded SanDisk and $60 is too much anyways, just get a 250gb 850 EVO or whatever

>>61353406
Nope. Better buy it yourself to save a few shekels.

>>61353846
>WD SSD's are rebranded SanDisk and $60 is too much anyways, just get a 250gb 850 EVO or whatever
Any specific reasons? 850 EVO cost about 100$.

>>61353766
It's essentially a bloated Xen installation that uses templates to run your VMs.

I have 12gb on my t420 and 16gb on my desktop. I've never used more than 8gb while running several VMs at once. Each VM uses a base of 600-1100mb ram. I'd recommend an SSD, though an SSD is probably a good idea for any computer nowadays.

Here's a decent overview. https://youtu.be/NTOsHtyS_5k

Trying to calibrate a new battery before sending it back for not meeting advertised specs. How low do you let it go before recharging? Down to 0%, 10%?

>>61353925
Can you set it up to create a VM of any OS?

>>61354015
>send question to ebay seller "Have these batteries been tested and meet the advertised capacity?"
>We confirmed the battery, and it has a 5200mAh 11.1v (58Wh) capacity. Pls be confident to order, thanks!
>order battery
>receive it
>battery has been stored at 0%
>plug it in and charge it
>wear level 31%, 3500mAh (39Wh)
Really makes you think.

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>>61347914
So I looked around and found that the Series 3 docks support both T420 and X230.
But which one should I get?
Does using the dock disable the thinkpad ports? Does Linux support the dock?

Anyone can't access lenovo site?

>>61339584
This is exactly my build minus the screen is the 1400x1050. I used it all throughout college and I still use it (although it mostly stays docked).

It's great. I would recommend to anyone who is comfortable taking a laptop apart that a frankenpad is the way to go.

>>61353406

no way man thats shit

>>61354020
Yeah, though you have to use HVMs for systems like Windows.

>>61354160

I have a 4337, but i heard 4338 is better because it has usb 3.0 support or something like that.

>>61353847
>>61354329
How much should 120 GB SSD cost then?

>>61338068
OP please stop posting that tranny

What are my options for aftermarket screens on the X230? Don't want eye cancer. Seems cheaper to buy my own i5 model and put the better screen in myself.

>>61354351
Is it easy to do?
I'm getting more and more paranoid after all these malware attacks.

>>61354160
If the series 3 docks are like the current docks, the only differences are the range of ports and the included power adapter.

>>61354767
>power adapter
I can't use the laptop power adapter?

>>61354698
Provided you have the appropriate hardware, it's very simple. The only supported version of Windows is 7 and GPU pass through is a pain if you're trying to do any gaymen.

Personally, I have a Lenovo m91p desktop that is fully compatible, and basically every ThinkPad is compatible.

If you can install Ubuntu, you can install Qubes. Just follow the gui. The documentation is pretty good too, if you want to do advanced things like Anti-Evil Maid.

If you have 8gb and an SSD, the whole thing will rub smoothly.

>>61354789
yes you can, but if you buy New Old Stock, you'll get a power adapter

>>61354800
>GPU pass through
What about light games or windows only applications like photoshop? I just need Win7 for those, and to test probably maliciously infected USB flash drives.
Dual booting is pain, and don't want to spend money on more drives.

I have T420 and X230 just not enough RAM.

>>61354875
Both the t420 and x230 use integrated graphics, so it's not an issue. That was mostly directed at desktop usage where you'd use a dedicated GPU.

More ram is definitely necessary. The least I'd even attempt it with is 6gb.

I want to buy a thinkpad under 900 USD.
with the next requirements.
- Have a CD/DVD player.
- HDMI Port (If there is).
- i7 or i5 processor over 3th generation.
- if is possible, no much change with the classical mouse click's.

there some model who have the most of this requiriments?.

T430, with or without nvs 5400m? I want to play gaymes(as new as possible). Also, how'd it impact the battery life?

How well does the X220/T420 run the Adobe suite, mainly Photoshop/Premiere Pro? Would I need to go for a xx30 model instead?

>>61354996

i have a t430 (i5 2.6ghz 4gb ram) and runs adobe premiere 2015 quite nicely.

>>61354906
I'm sorry for being 4 GB ramlet.

>>61355060
It's all good. You can get an 8gb kit fairly cheap. Depending on your configuration, it might be more economical to get a single 6gb or 8gb.

We are throwing out all our hardware related to systems that we don't wish to support anymore at work. This includes every board with SO DIM. So I could have 2 x 16 GB DDR4 for 80 $ total. Should I put them into my t460p?
I can't think of any valid excuse to have 32 GB RAM besides being the hero of screen fetch threads but it's just 80$

What reason could I find to buy it, just to feel better about it?

>>61354955
t400 series, t450 and up

doesn't have HDMI as far as I know, but (mini) display port which works with an adapter

>>61355239
thx, i read some about the model E560

this have some requirements i need (especialy the cd/dvd), but i don't know what generation proccessor have.

if you know this model(E560) have a good resistence? i read some post in other forums where the resistence is not very good in this model.

>>61354015
Pls ersponse

>>61355405
Core i 6000 series, so 6th series Core-i

My work gave me a t470s with an i7 and 12g ram. I really like it. Where do I find one for personal use? All the ones online have windows 10

>>61355185
Single 4 GB.
How cheap?
For t420 it should be SODIMM DDR3 and for the X230 DDR4?

>>61355490
>All the ones online have windows 10
What's the problem with that? Buy it and install an operating system of your choice. You're on a tech board ffs

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just bought a x200 tablet. Is this a good thinkpad? I've hard mixed things about it. This is what the seller said on ebay

>Up for sale is a used ThinkPad X200 Tablet PC, in excellent working and good physical condition with a 1.86 GHz Intel Centrino Duo (Core 2) processor, 4 GB DDR3 RAM, a 137GB hard drive, with an original Lenovo AC power adapter/charger and a used extended-capacity battery. The unit is equipped with Intel PRO/1000 Ethernet, Intel AGN WiFi, built-in SD and multi-card reader, built-in webcam, 3 USB ports and other standard ports of the X200 line. The super bright 12.1" HD LCD is a 1280 x 800 resolution display without any dead or bright pixels; the swivel hinge is strong, lid latch works fine in both laptop and tablet modes. The keyboard is in clean and near-new condition. Every typical functions are working.

>Lenovo Thinkpad X200 Tablet Seller Refurbished
>CPU Intel - Core 2 Duo - 1.86 GHZ
>RAM 4GB
>Hard Drive 137GB
>Media Drive No built in optical(CD/DVD) drive
>Display 12" tablet screen(work with stylus only)
>Battery working and holds charge 326 cycle count
>Power Lenovo AC Adapter
>Included Software Windows 7 (media not included)
>Webcam Yes
>Warranty 14 days - See below for details
>Network Ethernet + WiFi
>Touchscreen Stylus working touchscreen only

>>61354160
I never understood why people would want to get a dock station for their laptops?

>>61353256
Help?

>>61355470
thx

about the resistence, the E560 have the spill resistence or some models have this plus?

170€ for this T420 http://www.ebay.de/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Core-i5-2540M-2-6GHz-4GB-128GB-SSD-Webcam-UMTS-DVD-RW-/302334208215
Should I buy?

>>61356107
It's ok for UK ebay prices considering it has a SSD

>>61351248
Usually 2x to 3x what a same spec'd TP costs.
I don't know really yet. :x prices are everywhere.

>>61352911
Just deal with 900p displays and 3 hour playback.

Wait... are you asking you want a laptop to play Blu-ray movies for 10 hours?!

whats next, a brand new car that gets 90 mpg thats under $10K and has a top speed of 200 mph? Thats literally what you're asking.

The 1080p W530 lasted maybe 4 hours from web browsing. I bought it for $250 and sold it for $500.
And it will go up from there... but you won't get 10 hour anything unless you shell out $$$$ for a new thinkpad.

>>61356153
It's Germany, but thanks I'll buy.

>>61353406
I paid $120 to get a 480GB Crucial SSD

>>61354105
I use HWinfo to show the battery wear and tear whenever I resell.

>>61354457
Pretty much the only difference.

>>61354614
about the same price of a 180GB
>cant newegg whatever size SSD they want and price it out.

>>61354960
My t430s plays league at 1080p under linux and it has intel graphics.

>>61355204
buy and resell anon, after all the profit you made, that 32GB RAM will be free.

>>61355405
E and L series don't have a metal sub frame, just plastic,

>>61355715
Yeah, its good. It's not disliked much.

Is it possible to install T450 touchpad on t460?
I hate the t460 touchpad which has an awful mylar surface where the t450 has a glass surface

Why won't they make a thinkpad with a gtx 1060 and rbg keyboard?

>>61356569
Because business men are not gaymers

>>61356333
>I use HWinfo to show the battery wear and tear whenever I resell.
Is that a miswording of HWmonitor or a program I am unfamiliar with?
I have been using HWmonitor to check the capacity. Going to request a refund/replacement.

>>61353406
>tfw that is a man
The world we live in so messed up

>>61349806
this

>>61357132
>man

TAKE YOUR CISISM BACK TO POL. GENDER IS A SPECTRUM

>>61357132
That is sexycyborg (a woman) not saucey (a woman (male)).

>>61357097
I just noticed HWmonitor.
But this is HWinfo
>https://www.hwinfo.com/download.php

>>61356569
>mfw i see business men with alienware, clevo and asus rog laptops from time to time.
I don't fucking get it.

>>61356379
Check pictures of the connector, if it is the same, give it a shot?

How much can I expect to get for an X230 that I bought refurbed with a 3320M and upgraded with 8GB RAM and 500GB SSD? Am I better off just keeping the SSD?

>>61348621
>>61348691

HP shills pls go

>>61357306
>mfw i see business men with alienware, clevo and asus rog laptops from time to time.

my guess is that it's their sons tell them "get an alienware dad it's the best laptop you can buy" for emailing and spreadsheets

but who knows, maybe they also like their gaymes

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>>61352647
Girls don't give a fuck anon.

>>61357530
I think they wanted something that was powerful? There might be a chance some of those dudes were CAD architects, they don't look like the photoshop or video editor.

Maybe I'll ask them next time?
"EGGSCUSE ME SUR, CAN I AXE YOU A QUESTION/1"

Fuck this T420's shift key is harder to press than Mx browns.

we M14x display swap.

>>61352633
>1.8" hard drive
ehhh

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Sup, lads?

Need a quick answer. I'm about to nuke a new T420 and need an OS suggestion. Either:

-W7 Pro from whatever product key the refurbish dudes use (if it even works at all)
-W8.1 Pro from eBay bought for less than $10 a while ago (probably MSDN or other volume listeners and it's a question whether it will work at all.)

I'm not using the reseller botnet and I can't go Linux as I need to use some Windows based software. I guess my main question is:

How good is W8.1 pro on T420?

>>61354457
>>61354160
There's the 4337 and the 4338

You can plug in one external monitor into the 4337 and two into the 4338. However you can only have two active monitors at all times.

Both have a "with USB 3.0" variant.

>>61355763
I use my Thinkpad pretty much stationary, but I have two residences. Whenever I switch location I just pop the laptop into the dock and everything is plugged in.

Considering selling my 2014 macbook air, are there any good recommended business laptops that wouldn't be a downgrade? The battery on this thing is something that I really need elsewhere, it lasts 9 hours or so

I'm looking for a new battery for my t420, is DTK a reliable company?

battery in question https://www.amazon.com/Extended-Notebook-Battery-Replacement-Thinkpad/dp/B00JL7LUM0/