/hpg/ - Headphone General

>HD 600
>Balanced
>Everything
>Balanced
Lmao. That kid's going to be disappointed.

>Budget
125 CAD
>Location
Canada
>Source
Computer
>Open or closed
Don't care
>Comfort level
Has to be comfy, I'll be wearing these for hours.
>Sound Signature
Preferably not too bassy

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Thinking of buying the Sony MDR-7506 and get someone to mod it for me, to make the cable detachable.

Opinions?

>>61251284
too much work for a <$100 headphone

>>61251275
>Comfy
SHP9500S. Not much bass though.

>>61251275
>125 CAD
horrible price range. there's really nothing great at that prtice point. either save some extra cash for HD598 or buy a $50 chinkshit headphone for $50.

>>61251307
>SHP9500S
garbage.

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>>61251275
>Has to be comfy

SHP 9500. You can't get comfier than this at that price point.

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Just got my shp9500s. Perfect clamping force meme was real. The tip of my ears touch the base of the headphones a little where the drivers are directly behind though. Sound seems close to the 558, but its at home atm so I can't really compare.
My schiit fulla 2 is coming tomorrow as well.

>>61251322
>SHP9500S
Recommend a better headphones for the price. I don't think I can.
>HD 598
Lmao. You're a cuck if you're unironically recommending a headphone twice his budget.

>>61251361
Literally the comfiest headphones for the price. Wish the pads were deeper, but I guess you can't ask for much more. Loving the headband.

>>61251275
You missed the bestbuy clearance on the HD558s by a month or so. It was only CAD$100.

You can get the Sony MDR7506 instead but it's not going to be as comfy because the 7506 is like a weird mix between on-ears and over-ears.

on-ears are a crime to humanity

>>61251366
le cuck maymay

Hit the road kiddo.

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How long does it take to get used to a headphone? I've used the PM-3 (EQ'd to Harman minus some bass) 70% of the time for the past couple of days and now the HD600 (EQ'd to harman too) somehow sounds super congested. What's going on here? Is it the cheapo pads I'm using for the HD600?

>>61251466
Spewing memes doesn't make you any less of a cuck, you cuck :^)

>>61251470
>He fell for the meme

>>61251366
you're a moron. post less. and don't give anyone any advice because your advice is retarded. just because you wasted money on that shit doesn't mean he should too.

just because you're a miserable cunt doesn't mean everyone else should be as well. Don't bother replying, I'm removing "you" from this post. I don't care what you have to say.

philips shp9500s yay or nay?

>>61251506
Dude, calm down. That was just a suggestion. If you're willing to recommend better a better headphones NOT twice the price of his budget, then be my guest ;)

>>61251512
SHP9500s for $75 Canadabucks, decent deal?

>>61251512
Depends on what you want, famalam.
>>61251562
Go for it; everything else is overpriced for what they're worth here in leafland.

Are Etymotic HF5 any good if I'm looking for a neutral IEM? I see they are on Massdrop for 80 bucks

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>>61251562
I'm >>61251361 and I just got mine for 70 at newegg. Look around also check the shipping options available as you might be able to save more.

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>>61251605
>>61251562
Just going to add that I've been listening to it for about an hour now (with air conditioning on) with the usual files I do with the 558s. I feel a bit of sweat already around the pads. I could go for 4 hours and not sweat on the 558s. Whatever the material of the pad they use on the shp9500s is cancer.

>>61251592
MK5 are more neutral.

>>61251667
>I could go for 4 hours and not sweat on the 558

During summer?

>>61251689
Yes

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>>61251667
>this anon's taste in anime and headphones

>>61251667
No sweat here, but I also have short hair. I guess it differs from person to person.

Guys, should I do this?

https://youtu.be/3l-a0OG6j7s?t=122

>>61251667
Nice figs dude.

>>61251701
Gross. Fuck off with that video.

>>61251667
I call bullshit, timestamp proving you've got both and you are not just another sennheiser shill. Some barefeet would be nice too.

>>61251605
>>61251667
How do they compare?

>>61251715
Nah, I believe him. SHPs have been known to do that, but no problem here with my pair. +1 for the feet, though.

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>>61251715
>Snapheiser troll is a gay footfag

>>61251506
>Advice is retarded
>Recommends anon $250 headphones
Literally laffin' right now!

>>61251735
>Snapheiser troll is one person
>Snapheiser shill has shit taste
Lmao. I bet you listen to Idol trash too!

>>61251592
MK5 is closer to Diffuse Field neutral.

Are the Bowers&Wilkins P7 considered a class above the MDR-1A's or about the same level?

>>61251091
>>61251091
>>61251091
>>61251091
Reposting from last thread.

>>61251667
Wait, what the fuck? Why are you shitposting on a different computer now?

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>>61251746
>implying my taste isn't strictly patrician

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>>61251792

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Sometime this year I have to send my porta pros for repairs as well. How long did it take you guys to get it back from koss?
>>61251696
>>61251703
T-thanks..
>>61251715
On the other side of the country. I'll do it when I go back in about a month or two.
>>61251716
>How do they compare?
Can't compare directly atm as I just moved. I should be able to do a comparison once I'm on vacation, but I'm sure its been done a million times already anyway.
>>61251791
I moved most of my stuff is still over there though.

>>61251805
sorry, i'll wait for your throat to open up next time

>>61251284
It'll fuck yer warranty but MDR's are pretty good in terms of life. They're an easy recable too. Just pull the cable and the strain relief out and shove a face mount 3.5 stereo socket in. Solder it up. You could even re-terminate the cable with a 3.5mm on the side you removed it, though I don't really like the stock cable.

Why are you looking at the 7506's though? Theyre a great headphone for field monitoring, but I wouldn't quite say so for music. Cheap chi-fi iems are much better value for musical content. MDR's and their similarly priced competitors aren't that good. Get a magaosi k3 pro or any of the various chi-fi alternates. I hear the TFZ King is good.

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>>61251816
I'd laugh at you, but i'm too busy puking. Lmao, just kidding.

>>61251512
If you don't have any more money and want a mildly bright headphone, sure. See if you can find a 558/598 for cheap, even used. They're worth the upgrade in terms of sound.

>>61251871
beneath that smug act i can see your inferiority complex and depression anon

>>61251886
Nice try, /r9k/.

>>61251900
I was expecting better, I'm gonna look for a challenge now, see ya anon

>>61251872
598s, yes. 558s, definitely not.

>>61251914
598 and 558 sound almost identical. If anything, the 598 is an exceptionally poor value when the 558 exists.

>>61251907
See ya. Back to your board ya going, anon ;)

>>61251914
Just do the foam mod. Not like he's going to have the warranty if buying used anyway. They sound pretty damn similar as is.

>>61251905
They don't call 'em Sennshills for nothing!

>>61251963
>r/headphones
Kek. What's next, Head-Fi? Go back to the trash can, anon.

Planar bass is real.

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>>61251995
>being elitist about participating in what is essentially a shitposting general

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>>61252017
>Using r/headphones for shitposting
>Not shitposting in style
What are you, a faggot?

>>61252015
If it wasn't real, planars would have no bass at all. (in b4 shitposter says "just like Sennheisers")
>>61252036
I don't actually shitpost here, but the rest of you do more than enough to make up for me.

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I miss him, /hpg/
https://www.head-fi.org/f/members/comfygrados.329132/

>>61251470
>Is it the cheapo pads I'm using for the HD600?
People use pads other than stock pads on HD600? FYI pad swapping can cause massive changes in sound.

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Anyone still use these?

Why do people keep referencing cars when talking about headphones?
>this is my daily driver
>these are easy to drive

>>61252223
They're Chinese knockoff pads specifically for the HD600. The sound didn't change much when I tried 'em but perhaps now it's coming back to bite me. I didn't want to ruin good pass with sweat over the summer so I bought knockoffs for use until fall.

>plug headphone into iphone
>rotating them in the jack makes sound go in and out, volume randomly jumps up and down, headphones play/pause button only works when they are in a certain way, etc

I guess I have to replace the entire charging/headphone dock huh

>>61252843
do you have one of those shitty cables that almost seems loose on the ends? better hope it's just the cables

>>61252814
Are you EQing based on online measurements or your own measurements with the new pads? If the former, online measurements will not correspond to actual results with different pads, so that'd be why they sound "congested." I would not recommend EQ'ing to online measurements with non-stock earpads.

>>61252930
EQ is mostly based on sinegen. The goldenears measurement basically puts the treble at flat so all I did was fix the super high q peaks and dips. I don't feel the pads changed the FR that much though.

>>61252873
i do have a cheap pair of earbuds (sony MDR) but their quality isn't the problem. my first pair lasted a year and a half and only failed due to my fault (stress relief got damaged probably from pulling the cable too much)

a replacement dock with all the tools to fix it (screwdrivers, suction cup, plastic lifting tools, etc) actually only costs about $6 on ebay

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>>61252843
buy a right angled pigtail for next times or nows even.

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>>61253078
the headphones i have ARE right angled jack.

the stress relief came apart where it is circled in the picture. i glued it back together and it held for months then completely came apart

i thought the problem was just with the headphones but obviously it isnt since the new ones have the same issue. i am gonna buy some suguru to put over the stress relief though

>>61253106
>shitty stress relief quality
Sounds like Beyersremorse.

>>61253186
Or a Snapheiser headband ;^)

>>61253186
no, it isn't buyer's remorse. i really enjoyed the earbuds, the stress relief failure was honestly from treating them shitty. i head sugru is a good solution to that stuff so i plan to use it

I ripped my beyerdynamic earcups when cleaning them, putting those fuckers back on is almost impossible

they REALLY don't want to back on, so yea be careful if you ever change beyer pads

>come to thread for help
>nothing
>if asked outside thread would be told to ask in this general

>>61251779
MDR950BT

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Thoughts? It's suppose to be similar to the Pinnacle P1

>>61253687
>unironically expecting help from a website for sociopaths
Unironically ask /r/headphones.

>>61253772
>It's suppose to be similar to the Pinnacle P1
It's supposed to be exactly the same in sound and better in build. The p1's have gotten a lot of really great reviews.

I cant find my old headphones anymore so I decided to buy some new
>Budget
15-20€ if possible
>Location
Europe Germany
>Source
Smartphone for listening to music outside
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
As high as you could get with that budget
>Sound signature
Bass heavy
>Past headphones
Dont know the name but they were quite decent for around 10ish€, had those formed earbuds that only fitted in the right ear, bassboosted and had a really shitty Microphone in it
I know shit about headphones so I would just walk in my nearest store and grab the first pair of them for under 20 bucks

>>61253999
RP-HJE120
RP-TCM125 if you want a mic (same thing with mic)

>>61253999
Sony MDR-XB50AP

On Ebay in america at least you get them for $10-15

see like this

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Sony-MDR-XB50AP-In-Ohr-Headset-Kopfhorer-schwarz-/192234465699

>Budget
100$, willing to spend a bit more
>Location
Clapistan
>Source
Desktop
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Either
>Comfort level
As long as it doesn't kill my ears.
>Sound signature
A good sound stage maybe?
>Past headphones
ATH-M50

>>61254112
SHP9500 or HD558

>>61254125
Thanks.

>>61253999
KZ ATE

>Budget
I am more willing to pay around 50 but if you guys can convince me I could spill over 300 dollars for some bad ass head phones
>Location
I live in the U.S
>Source
I am plugging these into my computer of which I spend around 8 to 16 hours listening to music while I do school work
>Type of headphone
Most definitely full sized for home use, I carry an alright pair of iem’s for phone listening on the go
>Open or closed
Closed headphones, I listen to cringy as fuck music and I live in apartments, I don't want to be kicked out.
>Comfort level
I would rather them be pretty comfortable, but if it's closer to my prefered price range then I would be willing to give up some comfort but not to the point where I would want to avoid wearing them
>Sound signature
I'm not an extreme audiophile but I would guess that I would like either bassy or v-shaped
>Past headphones
For the most part of my life I have just used shity cheap earphones, then for the last year or two I have been purchasing 20 dollar ranged ear phones from walmart and the like. The few headphones that I've had where skullcandy headphones given to me buy family members.My most recent pair of headphones are called roccat renga, which were suggested to my G’ma buy some dude at an electronics store. The comfort of this set is far above the rest and the cable is pretty long so I can walk around my whole room without having to take them off although the cable does get stuck in my computer chair wheel. Sadly they broke when I tried to find out why I couldn't use the mic on them (windows 10 just doesn't like humans) and pulled the cord out a bit to hard, now I can hear the static noise of the cable moving around in the ear phone.

MDR-1000x for 200 dollars worth it?

Is it worth it to get a sound card or amp for my desktop?

>>61254589
It depends on a couple things, are you an extreme audiophile, can you hear the electric currents that flow throughout your computer and does your mother board have a good sound card already implemented.

>>61253999
KZ ZS5.

>>61251735
Satania a cute. A cute!!

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are these good

>>61254475
>Closed headphones, I listen to cringy as fuck music and I live in apartments, I don't want to be kicked out.
Unless you have people in the same room and like it really loud, open should be okay.

>>61255199
I was kind of joking about that but I personally prefer closed headphones

>>61255216
>I prefer closed
But your past headphones were all <$20...
Open will generally give you better sound / money.

>>61255161
You're better off with Porta Pros.

Budget
> $200 usd
>Location
Usa
>Source
Usb soundcard
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closee
>Comfort level
Very comfortable even when sleeping listening to music
>Sound signature
Don't care

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Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

>>61255227
well yeah in the past, but that's why Im posting in this thread, Im finally making enough money as to wear I can afford to spend more on the things that I enjoy.

>>61255312
Currently have a Fulla 2 and a DAC X6 on the way, but no headphones. SHP9500S won't be here until Monday, and I'll probably use those for a month before getting the HD600.

I convinced my friend to buy his first "real" headphones. His budget is practically unlimited but I know he hoards shekels so I limited my recommendations to DT990 and Fidelio X2 (on computer, SBZ, open, likes bass and listening music from electronic to death metal). Is there something better to consider as first headphones in the 150-300 €uropoor range?

>>61255336
Cool. Yeah, that's a painful wait.
>>61255356
>v-shaped as fuck options
I'm afraid metal doesn't like coloring much.
Still, I'd look into HD600, k712, k702, HD579.

>>61255356
avoid the DT990 at all costs. It is pure trash and is full of treble and zero bass, it will literally give you ear damage. overpirced piece of shit.

>Budget
200-250 EUR. Due to VAT, the equivalent US budget would be $150-$200, with some exceptions.
>Location
Eastern Europe
>Source
A lot of sources, ranging from cheap mobile stuff, laptops, desktops to an audio receiver. I can buy an external headphone amplifier if worth it for the former, even if it stretches the budget a little.
>Open or closed
Don't care, I have a separate really cheap pair of disposable headphones for outdoor usage.
>Comfort level
Top comfy, as I'm going to wear them for very long hours
>Sound signature/Past headphones
I liked the ATH-AD900X which someone recommended to me earlier, but my pair died after 2 1/4 years. I'm fairly picky about sound signatures, but I don't feel confident in the terminology. I'm asking because I'm not sure if I should just buy the same headphones and use the pair I already have for spares (only the right driver is dead; this would save me money future repairs) or if I could get something much better for a similar price.

>>61255438
Also, I am fairly confident in my import skills, so non-EU stores are fine if necessary as long as the import/shipping fees are factored in.

>>61255421
>it will literally give you ear damage
Any headphone can, just don't listen to it loudly for long periods of time
>overpirced piece of shit.
Opinion, I've heard of people liking them
>zero bass
It has bass, it's a v shaped headphone

>>61255536
I listened at very reasonable volumes and the piece of shit still gave me headaches. I tried "getting used to them" but to no avail. I returned them after two days and got myself some sexy sennheisers. The meme is real anon. Beyer's are shit compared to the balanced Sennheisers.

>>61255356
DT770/Custom Studio
K712
DT880
Fidelio L2

>>61255548
>the piece of shit still gave me headaches
Some people are more sensitive to treble than others, not everyone finds it painful.

>>61254475
so should I just go on amazon, pick the highest rated between 50 and 300 dollars or is someone gonna take me on a wild ride with a good soundtrack.

>>61255717
Custom Studio and NOT the Custom One Pro

>>61255845
>Custom Studio
I knew one of yall niggas would be MY nigga

>>61253324
use a hairdryer on the pads to make them more pliable

>>61255883
No problem, fám

>Budget
$200 burgers/£160 Brexit points
>Location
UK
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Full-sized, comfy for wearing for long periods of time. Good for movies/music and maybe vidya.

Was looking at Sennheiser HD 598.

>Budget
260 AUD
>Location
Australia
>Source
Computer, have a really shit headphone amp, looking to upgrade soon though
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Has to be really comfy, wear for long periods of time
>Sound Signature
V-shaped, or balanced, as long as it still has some clarity, must have good bass response though

I have been looking at the DT770s but I'm not sure yet, had m50x's for about 3 years beore they died last week :(

>>61256432
>$200 burgers/£160 Brexit points
>was looking at HD598
HD579, HD599, HD598se/sr, k702

>>61256475
Thanks.

How're the detachable cables? I did notice the HD 598 SR but was sceptical of the cable.

>>61256493
They're all detachable, and they're fine cables. It shouldn't be a concern point.

>>61256504
Ah, cool. Despite them being replaceable I was worried that they could easily get detached for some reason.

HD 599 is looking really nice right now.

>>61256528
From what I can tell in reviews comparing both (there's some in youtube), the HD579 is both cheaper and better.
Just... without trying them myself, I really have no way of knowing. I do own HD598 and HD600.

>>61255376
>>61255421
>>61255550
Thanks mane! I forgot the k712 and 702 completely. The Fidelio L2 is also interesting. Great listing.

I haven't heard dt990 myself, it's just something that is compared to my Ultrasone hfi-2400 and I like my Ultrasones.

New cat chewed through my almost decade-old pair, so I have an excuse to look for new ones.

>Budget
$150ish USD
>Location
US
>Source
Mostly phone and PS4 controller
>Type of headphone

>Open or closed
Old pair was closed and I liked that I guess, though I haven't tried open in a long time and am unsure of how the quality suffers
>Comfort level
Old pair was not very comfy at all. I wouldn't mind a dip in sound for some longer lasting comfort.
>Sound signature
Not sure, but preferably close to whatever the M30s were.
>Past headphones
Audiotechnica ATH-M30

What's the cheapest I can get an amp or amp/dac unit that can output 2.1v or more?
That's what my headphones need to hit 110db and my current source can only do 1.2v which at 100% power is my listening volume but it means I can't EQ and I think sound quality is taking a hit because of how weak the source is.
I know a tube OTL would probably be ideal but the magni is $89 for bstock so I'm looking to spend even less than that.
CmoyBB may be an option but I'm open to anything, even chifi shit.
I'm in the US by the way.

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>>61256779
Those people are just trolling the shit out of you by the way. The dt990 is regularly $120 and they sound great. Keeping in mind this is subjective but plenty of people prefer the 990 to /hpg/'s HD600.

>>61256921
>plenty of people prefer the 990 to /hpg/'s HD600

Said no one who still has their hearing. Beyer DT = Dangerous Treble

>>61256966
>>61256779

See this is what I'm talking about. I don't know if they just do it for giggles or what but the the treble of the DT990 in particular is incredible.
Do not ever take any advice from this thread and do your best to try headphones before you buy them.
These faggots will never ever stop.

>Budget
$300 CAD $400 if amp is needed or its truly worth the extra cost
>Location
Canada
>Source
Pc maybe phone but not needed
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Maximum comfy 12 hours a day use
>Past headphones
Cheap ass logitech gaymur shit and earbuds

>>61256977
Wonder why the price of Beyers have dropped through the fucking floor in the last few years? No one wants to buy headphones with ear raping treble

>>61257072
>DT dropped from 150 to 130
>HD600 dropped from 399 to 299

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>>61257072
>>61257121
sir it seems that this man has completely embarrassed you and then proceed to take a fat wet shit all over your face.
I would suggest choosing your words more carefully in the future to avoid such humiliation!

>Budget
€100-€200
>Location
Norway
>Source
Phone / Computer
>Type of headphone
Not inears
>Open or closed
Prefer open, but can be closed
>Comfort level
As long as they don't hurt
>Sound signature
not bass heavy
>Past headphones
sennheiser hd449, qpad qh-85 (basically open back hyperx2's), koss porta pro and various €20 inears.

>>61257187
Beyerdynamic DT 880

>>61257187
HD579, k702.

>>61257187
Fostex TR90

>>61256460
bump for recommendations

Are akg k612 pro good? Comfort and sound quality wise

>>61257334
>DT770
Those are close but take a look at DT990, they are open.

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>>61257334
I wish you would elaborate a bit on the exact sound you want. Do you know how Frequency graphs work? It's one of the best tools we have for evaluating headphones with out being able to listen in person. This is the dt880's. So given X amount of power it produces that many decibels of sound at that frequency.
You can listen to a frequency sweep to know where each frequency is.

>>61256807
Bump

Also what are the chances of any good Prime Day sales for decent phones?

does anyone know how to fix/replace the elastics in akg headbands?

>>61256779
Don't listen to these faggots >>61256977
>>61256921
i got trolled into buying the DT990 but thankfully the shop had a decent return policy.

Your best bet is like what every reasonable anon would tell you, listen to the headphones before you buy them and listen to them for at least 5 minutes with all kinds of sounds possible. The DT990 gave me a hearing fatigue in around two minutes or so from using them and my ears kept ringing for three days from the fucking awful treble.

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>Budget
~300AUD
>Location
Australia
>Source
Computer (with cheap dac/amp)
>Open or closed
Probably closed, I don't want to disturb others
>Comfort level
Maximum comf
>Sound Signature
Balanced
>Past headphones
AKG K271s, pretty happy with them

Are Sennheiser HD 201's any good? are the 206 the same thing?

>>61258048
>ringing for three days
Fake news.

>>61256779
>>61258048
Don't listen to anyone here. Just like taste in music, taste in sound is subjective, we all perceive it a bit differently and we all want something else.
Your best bet really is to listen to the headphones before buying. Don't be afraid to pick 2 models and sit down with them for half an hour, switch and compare.
Most importantly, don't believe anyone here about their headphones and experience, because some are blatantly lying, but some are more subtle.

>Budget
Around 50-60 euros at the most
>Location
Spain
>Source
Computer, Phone
>Type of headphone
Over ear/full sized
>Open or closed
Preferably closed
>Comfort level
Pretty comfy, will be wearing for a few hours at a time
>Sound signature
Bassy/warm, if not neutral
>Past headphones
Up until now I had been using some Turtle Beach PX21's for music, I know, you're gonna kill me

>budget
<$300 CAD
>location
Canada
>open or closed
Rather closed, but doesn't truly matter
>Source
Computer mostly
>Comfort level
COMFY AF please
>sound signature
Less bass/more positional accuracy because I intend to also play video gaymes with it

>>61258142
How much are they paying you for shilling the DT's this hard?

>>61258689
Come on man, if you want to shitpost at least try to be realistic. Say the ringing lasted hours, not days. Maybe then someone will take your bait.

>>61258689
More than sennheisers paying you, that's for sure.

>>61256977
>the treble of the DT990 in particular is incredible
For a headphone that does treble right, look into HD600.
Rtings rates its treble particularly well.

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>Budget
~$100 +/- $20
>Location
Swedistan
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
On-ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
just not painful after a few hours
>Sound signature
I'll mostly use 'em for audiobooks/podcasts. clear mids, decent bass.

>>61259035
This will be slightly over budget but imho you should look into MDR-1A's if you like mids and bass on comfy on-ears.

>>61258887
Rtings has a retarded compensation curve. HD600 treble is quite recessed and lacks air.

>Budget
<100
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone, this is for work
>Type of headphone
blutooth, iem or earbud. i just need it to last ~10 hours and sound alright
>Comfort level
i hope theres a comfortable option given their proposed duration of use
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
ive been using two pairs of mdr 7506 for about eleven years. that isnt to say that im adverse to change but that i just havnt had a reason to.

>>61259432
>is quite recessed
Is rolled off correctly.
>lacks air
Off to reddit with you.

>>61259468
Wrong. Being rolled off is literally coloring. Back to head fi with your tube amps.

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Why do Beyerdynamic owners do this to themselves?

>>61255312
600+ magni+ fulla 2 (dac) reporting in again. I'm literally never going to upgrade again. What's the point? my dac can't be beaten, my amp can't, and the 600's are the best headphone that I've tried by far. I'd never want a pair of £1000+ headphones but it would be fun to try I guess. Spotify premium is also pretty fucking goo these days. I'm set lads.

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>>61259560
Fetish. We all have our fetishes.

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>>61259578
Idol trash is happy to hear you're happy with your setup.

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>>61259616
And this anon thanks you for the trash links you have provided me with over the last couple weekends. I tell you what, I'd fucking hate it if you...just kidding.

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>>61251209
Friends don't let friends buy Beyerdynamics.

>>61259704
I'm at work atm, listening to im@s radio at: http://shijou.moe/imas-radio/

Can't hurt to listen for a while.

>>61259717
Friends let friends buy Beats by Dr. Dre instead.

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If I hear frequencies above 6 kHz my ears literally explode, a proper neutral balanced headphone is supposed to roll off treble by at least 10 decibels. That's why the Sennheiser HD600 is my headphone of choice. Hearing the plastic squeak is an unrivaled experience.

>>61259748
>dat low and high end channel missmatch

>>61259720
Bookmarked. I'll check it out when I'm drunk later ;)

>>61259773
Delete this

>>61259748
A particularly bad sample sennhaters like to upload.
The channel matching has been very good for several years now, both for the HD600 and HD650.

>>61259748
600 suffers a lot less from 'plastic squeak' than most top headphones. I bet you've probably never even tried them lmao.

Can anyone recommend me a good earphone around 20-30usd?

>>61259805
At this point the no true scotsman fallacy should just be renamed to "no true HD600".

>>61259773
>>61259805

>>61259800
>>61259805
>>61259811

Like clockwork, the Sennheiser Internet Defence Force appears

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>>61259748
>>61259748
Thick blue line = Harman target treble.
Red line = improperly sealed channel measurement
Thin blue line = properly sealed channel measurement
The thick blue line here shows that the properly sealed raw channel measurement's treble fits the Harman target quite well.

>>61259823
What I said is true. The 600's don't squeak. So what''s your actual point? I only come here on weekends and I could easily say "and here comes the beyer faggot who can't stand the fact that 600's are superior"

Let's be honest, it's always the same one, or few beyer fags who get insecure. You can't stand people recommending the 600. It's fucking hilarious.

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>>61259872
GE's measurement (using a target curve similar to the Harman curve) confirms:
- One channel on the IF measurement was poorly sealed;
- The HD600's treble matches the Harman target quite well.

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>>61259872
For comparison, DT880. Thick blue line = Harman target treble. We can see here that the DT880 has a rather large ~10 dB treble peak at 9 kHz which is going to sound like nails on a chalkboard.

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>>61259983
Just as GE's measurement confirmed that the HD600's treble matches the Harman target well, GE's measurement confirms a very large treble peak at 9 kHz on the DT880.

>>61259811
Or maybe it's cause his headband is made of METAL. Kek.

Been listening to my dt990's since 2014 now and I love them but I'm looking to add a second headphone to my collection. Closed back preferably.
Would a modded t50rp be a good choice?
Or ath-msr7?

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>>61259983
The DT990's treble response is even more problematic here. Red line = Harman target treble.

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>>61260094
Problematic treble confirmed by GE.

>>61259882
I just like to shitpost desu, this beyer vs senn "argument" has been going on for years
though I vaguely remember back then the HD650 were more shitposted as the endgame for a while, glad people realized the 600 is the better sennphone

>>61259823
>>61259882


Just what I thought. Nothing but an insecure, baiting beyer owner. Pathetic.

>>61260094
>>61260108
Hurts to think about how many people have had/will have their hearing destroyed by these stupid treble peaks.
Just so to exploit some audiofools that confuse treble with detail.

>>61259717
Friends don't recommend headphones that snap into your soul either ;)

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>>61259872
>>61259892
>>61259983
>>61260003
>>61260094
>>61260108
All in one image for ease of dealing with problematic Beyerdynamic shills.

>>61259560
Unlike the IF HD600 measurement, bass response here doesn't suggest one channel was sealed a lot more poorly than the other; that is some awful channel matching in the treble. Typical Beyersremorse quality control.

>>61260233
>insecure
>forced to post 20 graphs trying to demonstrate """superiority"""

Sad!

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>>61255157
I now look forward to this reply every time I post her, anon, and yes, you are correct.

Lmao. No one would want to have a headphone that drives plastic shards into you head whenever it snaps.

>>61260345
Satania a cute. A cute!!

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>>61260361
You are correct. Nobody wants Beyerdynamics, whose hinges drive plastic shards into your head when they snap. The headbands also give you cancer.

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>>61260345

>>61260427
boo.

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>>61260427
>anime is total shit
Your average Beyer shill, ladies and gents.

>>61260406
Agreed. At least my snaptastic HD 600s allow me to pay $100 for another headband whenever they snap.>>61260406

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Beyerdynamic users have better tastes in anime and waifus

>>61260455
Nice shit taste, senpai did you get it off of /a/?

>shillheisers are all weebs
this should surprise nobody by now

>>61260491
Lmao. They even call them Idol trash!

>>61260455
Raphiel a cute. A cute!!

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>Beyer shill makes poor attempt to discredit HD600's treble
>gets absolutely BTFO by a plethora of objective measurements
>is forced to fall back on "b-but anime and waifus" as an argument

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>>61260515
>attempt to discredit HD600's treble

Simple. The HD 600 has ZERO (0) treble or bass.

>>61260534
Literally no bass!!1oneoneeleven

>>61260515
Nice shit taste, famalam. Visited /a/ again?

>>61251275
Pretty sure last Prime Day the 598's were at 110 Cad, wait a couple days and see

>>61260550
Dingdingdingding! Correct!

>>61259892
Wow look at that zero bass and zero treble. Oh, wait, neither are true.
Beyer shills = actual shills
"Sennheiser shills" = not shills but rather educated, patrician /g/entlemen cleaning up the dogshit Beyer shills leave all over the threads

>>61258759
It did last for days, probably because I was doing my best to get used to them by listening to metal. Bottomline, the DT's are shit and that is a fact. See >>61259560

>>61260590
Post another graph proving your point. Make me laugh, anon :^)

>>61260609
>Ringing for days
Your art of shitposting and shilling us lacking

>>61260406
>cable coming clear out of the headphones
We recently had two Beyer owners in the same thread reporting the same thing. Must be a Beyerdynamic design flaw.

>>61260652
>"Beyer owners"

You mean false flagging Snapshills?

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>>61260631
>Your art of shitposting and shilling us lacking

probably because I wouldn't know how to shitpost as good as a Beyershill

>Budget
Under $200
>Location
US
>Source
PC with Xonar DX
>Type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy or at least anything not pleather
>Sound signature
Bassy/V-shaped
>Past headphones
Panasonic RP-HTF600-S

My friend recommended DT770, but I just wanted a second opinion

>>61260679
Beyer Custom Studios, DT 770 with improved design

>>61260671
And I wouldn't know how to shilling as much as a Sennshill. I guess we need each other ;^)

>>61260679
>Bassy/V-shaped
DT770 was a good recommendation. Beyerdynamics are perfect for plebeian sound signatures like those you desire.

So I have gotten some recommendations on durable earbuds. Any of these good?
>Sennheiser CX 300 II
>Philips SHE3590
>KZ ZS5
>Tennmak Pro

I love treble and actually increase it on my dt990.
The dt990 is best headphone for electronic music in the world.
Except maybe the thxx but that costs the same as three dt990s so whatever.
Friendly reminder that the dt990 can be driven by:
Dragonfly Red
Magni
Micca Origen+
FX Audio DAC-X6
Fiio Q1
Fiio E17K
to at least 110db

>>61260698
Shitty English. Just woke up. Immersion ruined :(

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The HD600 is a "neutral" headphone for people too poor to afford a PMx2

>>61260344
I didn't post any of those graphs. I actually listen to the headphones I own/use. I couldn't give a shit about graphs.

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>>61260772
This headphone actually has no upper mids or treble. Blue line on bottom = Harman target.

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>>61260865
Nope

>>61260865
>>61260900
Looks vshaped to me.

>>61260953
Blind or dumb?

>>61260900
>>61260865 is an actual dummy head measurement with raw response provided.
>>61260772 and >>61260900 are compensated graphs without a compensation curve provided (unless you can provide) and without the measurement methodology provided (unless you can provide)
Since compensated graphs without a provided compensation curve and measurement methodology are essentially useless for evaluating frequency response, a dummy head measurement with a provided raw response is far more credible.

>>61260772
Nobody rates those headphones lmao.

>>61260974
Yeah, I think I'll just go with the classic sennheiser defense. Unrepresentative pair duh

>>61260988
That defense only works when you have a raw or compensated-with-compensation-curve-known measurement done with a known, credible measurement methodology as reference to show that the other graph is likely non-representative.

>>61261047
Cause sennshills have that. Kek! The double standard and mental gymnastics is amazing.

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>>61251209

Alright lads, I'm trying to find 'cheap' Headphones that are exceptionally good at Bass, even if that means the Highs are rolled off - I can EQ like a wizard.

I come from 'high-end' Home Theater setups with amazing Subwoofers, which has spoiled me and most Headphones are just utterly inept below 100hz, which is frustrating as hell.

I strived for 'flat' response when I was getting in to Audio, but turns out I absolutely hate how flat response actually sounds. I like about +10db from 30-50hz and maybe +5db around 80hz, depending on the Drivers - some are already boomy around 80-100 so in a case like that, I wouldn't EQ that range.

Reviews are absolutely fucking useless because the 'reviewers' have never heard a decent 2.1 setup in their life, have 4" Monitors that cut off at 120hz, and generally know nothing about Audio anyway. I bought Sennheiser HD201 a couple days ago b/c several (including PRO) reviews, and Senn themselves, claimed 'powerful, bass-driven sound'. They are the absolute worst things I've ever heard, not only do they have abysmal bass (fucking Sennheiser, man), they are also so inefficient that they can't be driven without a high-end Amp. I'm just ranting now, but point is I don't know where the fuck to find actual good info about comparing Headphones.

Pic related is my rough, basic EQ I have going with my Shure SE215s but they're just not well-suited for my types of music.

>>61261120
>not only do they have abysmal bass (fucking Sennheiser, man)
HD201 are entry point cans for the riffraff.
Look HD600 or higher, or HD599 if you're a poorfag.

>>61261120
>I like niggerbass
Beats are what you need.
>but I said cheap
Stop being poor.

>>61261159
>obvious false flag pretending to be Sennheiser shill recommending neutral headphones to someone who said they want niggerbass

>>61261159
>Any of them
>Exceptionally good at bass
Kekimus

>>61261162
He said good niggerbass, anon. The type educated niggers go to.

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>>61261120
>he actually adds bass to these
Ridiculous.

>>61261120
>>61261317
I'm not even sure anyone makes headphones with a literal 25 dB bass boost, which is what you're creating by giving SE215s 10 dB EQ bass boosts. >>61261120 is the most absurd post I've read on /hpg/ in a long time, holy shit.

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>>61261317
The silicone tips give them even more bass, holy shit.

>>61261365
Dude this guy might just be the biggest nigger since Yakub.

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>>61261159

Dude, Headphones don't need to be expensive to have good low-end. That is one of the worst, and most exploited myths in Audio. Biggest Drivers, Sealed design, etc.

There is nothing special about 'high-end' shit from a lot of manufacturers - Speakers are very simple things and throwing more money at them doesn't really yield better results. I've heard several <$60 Headphones that had good bass, clear highs and pleasant mids. I too thought sub-$200 headphones would sound 'muddy' and have no 'detail' but that's just not the case with a design that doesn't compromise on Driver size. Sony's XB line, for example,have good bass and overall very good sound for like $30-50. You can easily EQ Cymbals up but you can't EQ designs that are shit from the start for reproducing low-end.

Shit like pic related is NOT acceptable.

>>61261414
>hd600.png

>>61261162

If you don't like Bass you're either a faggot or someone who has never heard a proper Sub build in their life - I'm guessing you fall into the latter.

So how about YOU stop being poor, and try a good 2.1 setup so you'll have a reference for what a well-integrated Sub sounds like. Bet you have Sony MDR or some gay shit lmao

>>61261317
>>61261373

Dude, I can assure you those response graphs are EXTREMELY wrong. There's not a fucking speaker design in the WORLD that INCREASES SPL as it approaches fucking 20hz.

At best, the 215s are IRL maybe +5db 50-100 relative to Mids but, as you may know, the Human ear sucks ass at picking up frequencies lower than 100hz and to compensate you need to EQ it.

>>61255336
Compare the fulla and X6 when they come. Im thinking about the same setup, and wonder if fulla worth twice the price.

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Question: should I buy a chink Fiio amp for my Senn598's? I have a friend that amped his and he said that the sound quality improved enough to be noticeable.

>>61261503

Fiio amps are fine; don't stress over THD and shit, it's negligible at best. Look for decent output without unusually high distortion and good SNR and you'll be fine.

If the 598s are like my old 595s, they are AWFUL at bass, for several reasons, and you should trade them for at least 770s, my dude.

>>61261503
Chink fiio are decent, but consider Schiit Fulla 2.
That's highly likely all you'll ever need.

>>61261641
>That's highly likely all you'll ever need.
>no multibit DAC

Straight in to the trash it goes.

>>61261695
>multimeme

>>61261503
Fiio's all you ever need. Sound quality is flawless, build quality is usually where they cut the costs. Though I've been using my X3 as a DAC for several years now and everything works without an issue. If your amp is just going to lie on the table the whole time, you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

>>61261695
>he massively overpaid for a dac, which is essentially, nothing more than a clean source.

lelo

lel

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>>61261472
This shows an 8-9 dB bass boost. Even accepting this measurement as accurate, you're giving them a 19 dB bass boost with that EQ settings. That's fucking absurd.
>as you may know, the Human ear sucks ass at picking up frequencies lower than 100hz and to compensate you need to EQ it.
I don't know where you read that you should EQ to equal loudness curves but that information is flatly wrong. I'm not aware of any headphones with a 19 dB bass boost and the reason for this is a 19 dB bass boost sounds like fucking shit.

>>61261876

Are you actually retarded? That dip in the Mids is what you're calculating the bass levels from? I EQ'd up that mid crater and also 12-18khz.

>19db

Yeah, that's just wrong. Even IF it was a '19 dB bass boost', that's probably less or equal to how the Human ear percieves it versus the Mids.

Seriously, a flat fucking C-weighted graph is the dumbest goal in the 'Audiophile' community and the fact that A-weighting is ignored completely is retarded. Go make a 20-20k sweep, EQ it so it's completely flat, by C-weighting, then play it back and tell me that the lower octaves don't sound much, much quieter. Video that shit and if it sounds 'flat', I'll give you $1000.

You niggers need to learn about theory and design, god damn this is annoying. Have you ever heard a GOOD Subwoofer? One that's relatively flat from 20-80hz?

what headphones did the guy in the op image buy?

>>61251701
generally squirting water in there is the best method of removal

>>61252323
daily driver is used for all sorts of things, like phones. 'easy to drive' is how much power they need

not sure if the origin is a car thing or not

>>61262260
Bad ones. First he raped his ears with beyer treble and caused permanent hearing loss, now he's probably in the hospitals for severe lacerations from the HD600 headband snapping.

>>61262113
>I EQ'd up that mid crater
You're contradicting yourself.
>Pic related is my rough, basic EQ I have going with my Shure SE215s
There is no midrange boost in "pic related."
In any case, I'm convinced at this point you're trolling. I don't want to believe anyone thinks a 19 dB bass boost sounds good.

>>61254589
amp is pretty nice for physical volume control and extra volume

>>61262260
DT990

>>61262303
are you 12

>>61262344
>t. 13 year old summerfag

Hey /g/, I need some help here

I lent my shitty apple earphones to my sister and she lost it, what's the least amount I would have to spend to get something better? Doesn't have to be apple compatible.

Thanks in advance.

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What does /hpg/ think of DIY amps? Is it true that they are better than the commercial stuff?

>>61262307

A '19db bass boost' will sound terrible in some or most cases, yeah. 19db at 40hz is NOTHING like 19db at 80-100hz - will you fucking at LEAST acknowledge that part? It's especially a different perception with IEMs versus Over-ears.

Also, and you're just being an obnoxious cunt, because >4chan, I have 3 different EQ files I'm messing with; the one posted is me fucking around with just the bass filters trying to make it sound to my liking.

I don't EQ up the Mids much, just 3db from approx 1k to 3k but even 3db is pretty significant in that range because ears are way more sensitive to it.

It also depends what music you like - I listen to Electronic music that generally has a lot of content in the 40-50 and 80-100 range, and sounds terrible without the Lows being a bit pronounced. For shit like Rock, yeah, 19db gain on kick drum and Bass guitar would probably sound fucking retarded. Same with most hip-hop with all the content mastered to stupid levels in the annoying upper bass.

It's just hard to go from a nice system w/ a massive DIY Sub that is flat from 20-80hz to Headphones and be satisfied with them. Or maybe you guys are all just averse to Bass in general since you think niggerbass is any graph that doesn't roll off from 100hz downwards.

>>61262526
>19db at 40hz is NOTHING like 19db at 80-100hz - will you fucking at LEAST acknowledge that part?
According to >>61261876 and >>61261120 the end result of your EQ is a ~19 dB bass boost at 80 Hz as well. It's OK to admit that you like niggerbass, anon. Everyone has a right to their subjective preferences.

>>61262717

Do yourself a favor and google something called A-weighting and read a little bit about that and related subjects. You'll maybe stop looking like an idiot when people who know and apply this science are around.

Or, just play a sine of 1khz at 60db and a sine of 40hz at 79db. If you honestly think that sounds anything like an objective 19db difference, I don't know what to even tell you.

You're right tho, music is first and foremost about preference and I find Bass to be the most enjoyable part. When you realize that flat C/Z graphs sound pretty dull to 99% of people maybe you'll form your own opinions and stop sperging on people with different taste.

But, this is 4chan, so uh.. fuck u faggot

>>61262840
>Do yourself a favor and google something called A-weighting and read a little bit about that and related subjects. You'll maybe stop looking like an idiot when people who know and apply this science are around.
Riiiiight. All the major, credible headphone measurement websites are wrong because their target curves don't have 19 dB bass boosts and you're right.
Confirmed troll.

>>61262445
sennheiser hd 280 pros

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>>61262877

>>61262873

>target curves

To who, for why, and what's the reasoning behind them? There are 'experts' who think 4" Bookshelf speakers sound great and 'full', especially when they cost a lot of money.

Out of curiosity what headphones do you have/like and how much of your music has a lot of 30-80 content? For example, could you try something like Senn 595s with any bass-rich genres and think they're adequate?

An actual 'target curve' to most people would be raised low-end, relatively flat mids, slightly raised 14khz+ for crisper Cymbals. Bass deficiency is an inherent flat in Headphones simply because you have to trade off a fucking LOT of bass to be able to reproduce from 30 to 18-20khz with a single Driver, in a small package, with useable efficiency.

It's the absolute worst possible scenario for bass response and the irrational hated of nigbass from blacks with awful car subs enables shit companies to sell trash designs for tons of money.

There's a lot of shittalking in this thread, but everyone knows that AKG makes the best headphones

>>61262498
I'm pretty sure a regular or two here have DIY amps.

>>61263011
Show me a credible headphone measurement website which uses a target curve based on A-weighting.

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>>61263011
>I know more about audio than Brüel & Kjær, the world's largest manufacturer and supplier of sound and vibration measurement equipment, systems and solutions, founded on 28 November 1942
No. You do not. Go away. There's a reason this target curve doesn't look like an A-weighting chart and that reason is because you are retarded.

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>>61263069

I could link many, many that have 'target' curves of +10 in low, flat mids, slightly raised treble. I can link tons of scholarly audio and studies showing how Humans perceive low-freq at orders of magnitude lower than 1khz.

You could quickly google any of that shit if you actually want to. The Audio community is well known for wildly different opinions, misconceptions, shilling and perpetuating the 'ideal' sound when in fact there have been countless ABX tests that show those same people find objectively flat response sounds terrible to them.

But, no, I'm not going to google and sort through all that shit when you won't even acknowledge A-weight and Human perception of different frequencies is a big factor in any capacity. Objectively, that is a retarded stance, my dude.

Here's a image tho of just how much Humans suck at hearing low frequencies. I think that curve looks pretty dramatic and you would need quite a bit of correction down low for such a curve.

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>>61263022
My nigga!

>>61263233

>corrections for C-weighting

.....fucking christ man. Google C vs A weighting.

What in the fuck are you faggots arguing about?

>>61263022
yes

>>61251209
>Budget
$200-300 (relatively flexible)
>Location
Midwest USA
>Source
Computer. I also have a FiiO A3. If this is worth using, I will, but if it's not then that's also fine.
>Type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As long as it isn't absolutely terrible I don't really care
>Sound signature
Definitely bassy and maybe a bit on the warm side
>Past headphones
I've had V-Moda Crossfade LP2's for about 6 years now. Overall, I've liked them a lot, but I'm starting to notice the ware in the sound a little bit.

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>>61263233
>>61263287
Here's five more recommended speaker response curves.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/floydtoole
http://www.aes.org/aes/RBSchulein
http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=2329
http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=3731
The credentials of Floyd Toole and Bob Schulein appear spotless. Borenius and Bridges have both written papers for AES.
Are you actually going to claim that all of these people are wrong because their target curves don't have A-weighting-based bass boosts and you're correct?

>>61263328
See those numbers on the top of the graph? The ones that say "x 7 5 3 2 2 1 0..." That's what "Corrections necessary when using C-weighting..." is referring to. The actual measurement itself is not C-weighted. It isn't anything-weighted. Brüel & Kjær, who is more credible than you, is saying that the graph represents the optimal curve for hi-fi speakers in a listening room, as measured, with no weighting applied.

>>61263022
The 702's and k712's are up there, brilliant headphones. I'm sorry to say that I upgraded to the 600. They're the most natural sounding headphones I've tried so far. Everything sounds correct on them. Multiple EQ's were needed for both the akg's I mentioned.

is the doppio a good upgrade from the carbo tenore? looking for something with similar sound signature but better separation, sound stage, detailing etc.

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>>61263689
ufuckingwotm8

>>61263769
I guess I'm looking for a more refined carbo tenore and wondering if the higher end ZA iems are basically that.

Wow. Check out the frequency response for this piece of shit.

http://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/creative/hn-900-noise-cancelling

>>61263820
>Creative
I found your problem, famalam. Also
>rtings

>>61263812
Sorry, I'm half drunk and I've never heard of the items you mentioned. They also sound retarded as fuck. I was merely meming.

>>61263840
Friendly reminder that Creative has the same number of headphones on the InnerFidelty wall of fame as Beyerdynamic

>>61263820
What. The. Fuck.
That reverse rolloff on the treble is some mistake, it can't seriously be real.

>>61263861
Looks like they hired ex-Beyerdynamic engineers

>>61263885
Maybe beyer fired them? It takes a special kind of moron to make headphones with even worse treble response than beyers.

>>61263850
it's okay, if I didn't have family over I'd get black out drunk mid day.
>tfw alcoholic

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>>61263902
http://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sennheiser/hd-600

http://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/beyerdynamic/dt-990-pro

>DT 990 Pro is rated better in all usage categories than the HD 600

>>61263855
Loving your summer job so far, summerfag?

new thread:
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>>61263952
>>61263952
>>61263952
>>61263952

>>61263955 new thread

>>61263936
Aware of that nonsense. It just shows that it's not easy to come up with algorithms for rating headphones.
Sometimes some absolute garbage like the DT990 is going to pop up with a high score.

>>61263936
Lmao. Sennheiser shills literally on suicide watch!

>>61263958
Of course! Sennhesier promised to send me a pair of HD 600 if I keep up the good work.

>>61263965
>literally a few seconds late

what are you thoughts on the Bose QC35? Is it worth the price? is there better headphones with noise cancelling at a similar price?

>>61263967
>This damage control

>>61263963
We just used that image a few days ago for OP.
>>61263965
Ah, good, a non-shitposting thread.

>>61263967
>Sennheiser shills on SUICIDE WATCH after an OBJECTIVE measurement proves that the HD 600 is a SHIT headphone

>>61263978
How come? Did your pair already snap? ;)

>>61263290
I will never understand why more headphone makers don't use mini xlr for the headphone side of the connection. It's secure, but easily removable when you want it, plus the xlr design already has shielding and signal isolation in mind.

>>61263661
I have to say, even the entry level K240 Studios that I got are one hell of a headphone for the $50 they're going for now. I got the headphones, an uprated cable, and velour pads for something like $65 shipped, and they easily eat out most headphones at that price point in sound quality, and comfort. Holy shit they are so light, and the ear openings are big enough that even I don't have issues with rubbing. I used to have some Beats Studio Detox that some idiot sold to me for like $10 because he had thought they were bluetooth and those things were so fucking heavy and the pads fucked up my ears, not to mention sound quality was niggabass hard. Good enough for games with lot's of explosions and shit though.
inb4 someone tells me I have no point of comparison if my only other headphones are beats. I've owned Senn HD598s, Sony MDR-V6, and ath-m50x. Sure not the best headphones, but a nice variety

>>61264025
N-n-no, they're in perfect condition!

>>61264015
By rtings rating it lower than actual shit such as the DT990?
Anomaly aside, they rate the HD600 quite high in the critical listening score.

>>61254580
Got mine at that price and theyre worth it for me. I got a long range bluetooth transmitter for my pc and i can listen to lectures and music anywhere in the house and garage all day on one charge. On top of that they got great nc, sound good and are comfortable enough (i got a small head and it's tough to find comfy headphones)

>>61264043
Just goes to show you how shit they really are, eh, anon?

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>>61263913
We're gonn-...we might not make it bro

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>Budget
€100 - €200~
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
Computer
>Open or closed
Don't care
>Comfort level
Has to be comfy, I'll be wearing these for hours.
>Sound Signature
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