Android has fundamental flaws which cannot be easily fixed short of rewriting the entire operating system. The concept of allowing vendors to modify and customize their system is fine, however letting them to choose whether if they want to offer updates or not is a retarded gaping flaw which is the primary reason why Android is seen as a pajeetware among the general public. The idea of having to hack your phone and flash an image made by an Indian is comical and tragic. It has been built into a virtual machine where the processor not only has to transcribe the retarded pajeet code into binary, it also has to operate this virtual machine and somehow run the code seamlessly. The security system in Android is a joke. It has come to a point where developers can distribute data mining apps in the official repository of the operating system and go unnoticed by Google. Apps can refuse to operate if you don't let them access to every part of the system, which is a bannable offense in the App Store. Android apps can inject root kits into the firmware and persist between factory resets, which is impossible to do on any iPhone.
Now, I can understand defending Android for the freedom it provides, torrenting, third party repositories and customization is some of them. But, in the sake of preserving the hipster attitude and looking down on fruity toddler toys, the community overlooks the fundamental flaws in this operating system that needs to be addressed. You may scream and cry but its an indisputable fact that Android tries to be jack of all trades master of none. The engineers at Google somehow got the idea that shitting out new features without properly auditing them is fine. They can't comprehend the idea of throughly auditing Android and addressing the security flaws in their system. Make sure to address these issues before claiming a contrary opinion to the title.
>>61250768
Of course it is. It fucking works. There's a reason why all the rich people use iphones and not Lagdroids.
>>61250788
Because it's a status symbol, buy a high end android phone and not Chinese garbage and you'll have a similarly great experience.
I'm not autistic enough to give a shit. My phone calls and shitposts. Works fine.
>>61250869
nigga pls. CIA leaks proved UNEQUIVOCALLY that iOS is MUCH MORE SECURE than Android. We're talking a MAGNITUDE more secure.
CIA had zero iOS 0-days and 25+ Android 0-days.
Your butthurt won't change that fact. Face it, Android is by pajeets for pajeets.
>>61250869
>high-end Android product
>not Chinese crap
Pick one
>>61250963
There have definitely been iOS security issues in the past, like the PDF bug that the entire 3.1.3? jailbreak was build around. I'm sure there are fewer zero days considering the closed code base, but those same companies are also forced into compliance with NSA data collection incentives that for all we know compromise if entirely.
>>61251130
for every iOS, there were dozens Android bugs. but after iOS 9 and iPhone5S before it, everything changed.
>>61250925
Thanks for the spicy Homu
As much as I hate to admit it, my old iPhone 5 hit critical comfy levels. That being said it became garbage after iOS 9 because it fucking ruined that phone's performance, and with no way to downgrade (at least at the time) I was niggered out of a great phone.
>Flexibility and freedom to do whatever the fuck you want
>Security and guaranteed stability for about two years
Pick one
>>61251191
how can you be so cruel but own such a cute tux racer image? THIS ISNT FAIR
>>61250768
One last desperate shill before Android O delivers "Project Treble" and properly separates vendor customizations from core OS. gj
u mad ifag?
Hey guys what's the best file manager for ios?
>>61251274
I'm actually running that on my Nexus 6 anon. Bretty good
>>61251281
It comes with iOS 11
>>61250963
>Vault 7
Unless you are referring to a different CIA leak than the one referenced in your image, allow me to direct you to a post I made at the time of the leaks.
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/59303627/#q59305258
>https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_11629096.html
>https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_13205587.html
>For the number of exploits, just count them. For model specific parts, note the "Affected Devices" column of the table. For both Android and iOS, not all vulnerabilities affect all devices. Many of these listed for both devices have already been patched, and only affect older models. Of the 14 iOS vulnerabilities, 4 have a "death date", meaning that they were patched already. The other remaining 10 are still in the operating system. By comparison, of the 26 (anon must have miscounted) Android vulnerabilities, only 5 of them affect all phones with the current version of Android.
>Assuming one is using an Android phone with the most up to date version of Android or a ROM with the most up to date version of Android, the CIA has 5 tools it can use to exploit you. By comparison, for an up to date iPhone, 10 tools still work, and one of them can fuck your Kernel.
>>61251447
no, we're talking CIA-specific exploits. they had zero for iOS. dig deeper.
I crouched with my iphone in my pocket and the screen cracked
I like a phone that doesn't break when you breathe on it
Apple is jewing their customers out of ungodly amounts of money
>>61251447
The difference between Android and iOS is that individuals independent from intelligence agencies can also exploit Android easily. No operating system is safe in regard of airgap hopper malware like stuxnet.
https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2477171/pwnfest-delivers-google-pixel-hacked-in-60-seconds
>>61250768
Android and iOS developer here. For me the biggest issue with Android is garbage collection.
When I learned iOS's ARC, I started realizing how superior it is when compared to GC. That's the reason a 4GB Android phone/tablet literally get worse RAM management than a 2GB iOS Device.
Also, iOS benefits from it's programming language. While Google chose Java, Apple chose Objective-C, meaning Android runs on a VM while iOS runs on metal, that could explain why iOS is smoother most of the time. Apple now has Swift, which is fucking amazing and also compiles to machine code, with full integration on ARM and x86. Why Google insists on Java? I don't know.
Don't get me wrong, Android is great, but because of Java (and the garbage IDE), developing for it is no fun.
>>61251528
Anon, you're overweight admit it.
>>61251547
Go for Android when
>>61251761
Go, too, has a garbage collector - one that performs even worse than Android's.
There is no fixing Android. Fuchsia is Google's only hope of ever reaching performance parity with iOS.
>>61251250
>he doesn't stream music
lol, cricket data not fast enough for you?
enjoy running out of storage :3
>>61251528
Maybe stop wearing tight jeans light a fag
>>61252516
>streaming
>not saving
>>61251235
Oh well I imagine Samsung uses happy umpa-lumpas to build phones right? Stop pretending you care about the lives of poor people just to make a point
Because it's controlled
/g/ falls for the free software. The more control the more streamlined the product. Apple can design exactly how the phone is going to work down to the temps.
Of course samsung etc with Google's Android + Qualcomm processor + their own screen can't match something so streamlined in raw performance.
>>61251250
I'm pretty sure you can wireless transfer which is just as fast most of the time
>>61252541
>Of course samsung etc with Google's Android + Qualcomm processor + their own screen can't match something so streamlined in raw performance.
That's rubbish and you know it. Samsung makes literally every component of the Galaxy line, including the SoC (Exynos) and they have early access to Android's source code. The only thing preventing them from putting out a streamlined product is their own organizational incompetence.
>>61252516
>he doesn't exclusively listen to esoteric weeaboo music not available through any streaming sites
>>61252576
Well I guess I got nothing then. Praise apple.
>>61250768
I love Android and will never switch to iOS, but I still agree -- the way Android operates is retarded, and to un-Java it you have to rewrite EVERYTHING.
>>61252686
Here is a tutorial in case your android lags. Don't forget to thank the Samsung daddy for making such a consistent OS :^)
https://www.technobezz.com/fix-touchwiz-lag-samsung-galaxy-s7/
>>61252920
I can't believe how laggy my s7 is for a flagship top of the line android phone only a year old. I am getting an iPhone next time.
I know this sounds like a shill but it's true. It's not particularly slow but when you pay the literal price for an iPhone anyway you shouldn't get something inferior. I feel like I am running around with a chinkshit with a nicer screen sometimes, not an actual premium phone.
>>61252989
Oh I wish I could install some pajeetware and spend more time speeding up my phone than actually using it
http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/speed-up-android/
>>61250768
Lineage OS doesn't have this problem. Prove me wrong.
>inb4 still have to hack your phone and shit
Nexus/Pixel phones allow official unlocking.
>>61253612
You have to prove me wrong, dumb frogposter. Apart from delivering a more up to date system, how does Lineage address those issues?
>>61253004
>>61252686
I literally never had an iPhone do anything like this. This is some occasional scenario and you fucking know it, notice there's never a source on these.
>>61252516
Streaming music is for cunts.
>>61253612
shut the fuck up you only need this because your shit phone manufacturers cant update their own fucking software so you find it somewhere else. iOS doesnt have this fucking problem
>>61250869
>sub-1k item niggers can afford
>status symbol
lolololol
no its just better, i must admit, even as a loonix user my phone will be ios until a real alternative emerges that isnt memeware
>>61252541
nah its because its hardware integrated + bsd userland + mach sissy kernel vs. bloatware vm on top of loonix
>omg hackfacebook2017notvirus dot com is telling me to download this app to hack Facebook
>The system protection is saying that this app is trying to install malicious codes into the system
>I put install anyway
>Omg my phone is acting weirdly #fuckandroidiphoneisbest2017
>>61254621
nice picture, mind if i save it?
>>61254527
Any script kiddie can write rootkits for Android. Only Mossad can do that on an iPhone. That is the #difference.
>>61254621
Don't you have a chinese dick to choke on?
>>>/g/csg
>>61254169
>damage control
1. You wouldn't have this problem if you use the stock rom.
2. No app can have access to root unless you rooted your phone and give that app access to the root (apps have access to basic stuff like storage, camera, etc)
3. No Google play app is allowed to share your personal information without your acceptance
4. See >>61254527 about Android security
tl;dr
If you use your Android phone like you use your iPhone you wouldn't have any of these problems
>>61254727
Also weren't all celebrities leaked nudes were leaked from iPhones?
>>61250768
Apple shill plz go
>>61254645
Then how's ios jailbreaked?
Ios doesn't allow you to download apps outside the appstore (that's why you need a pc to jailbreak) same with android but you can disable it on android at your own risk. If you don't disable it you wouldn't get an 3rd party app that system warned you about to have access to your root.
Also it's impossible to root an +5.0 Android without a pc
good lord this board is full of retards
>>61254727
False.
>One in four apps on an Android mobile phone is loaded with an excessive number of un-related "trackers" that are funnelling valuable personal information to third parties.
>Popular games apps My Talking Tom and Swamp Attack in the Google Play store are among the worst apps, each loaded with more than 20 "connected trackers", a study by Australian IT research agency NICTA shows. In contrast, the top 100 paid apps had on average 1.3 trackers each.
>"There is some element of the app trying to deceive the user, doing something more than its declared function," said author Aruna Seneviratne, NICTA's research leader in mobiles.
>"The trackers are leaking a huge range of data like contacts and your browser history to third parties so they can build a picture of you."
>The Google Play market holds more than a million apps and has seen more than 50 billion downloads to date. Cyber safety experts have long criticised Google for its lax security regime in comparison to Apple's app store.
>>61254793
>>>rootkits
I am talking about persistent rootkits. Any jailbroken iPhone can be rolled back into an uninfected, unjailbroken state by an iTunes update or restore.
>>61254874
Forgot the link
http://www.baka.com.au/digital-life/smartphone-apps/one-in-four-apps-on-your-android-mobile-needlessly-mining-your-personal-data-20150619-ghsozp.html
>>61254894
Okay I get it, you can't read. I was clarifying that rootkits and jailbreaks were 2 seperate things. You can remove jailbreak from an iPhone, you can't remove Mossad rootkits from an iPhone.
>>61254883
4chan decided to replace the baka with baka in the link so here is the archive link
http://archive.is/qItYP
All CIA exploits for Android don't work on latest version or my phone. Nothing to worry about.
>>61250768
Btfo cunts Blackberry is best phone
>spoof my location on Snapchat to North Korea
>iPhone friends ask how I got there
>>61258368
It doesnt do anything tho there so filters or shit in north korea unless you got custom filers
LuRK MORE Larping faggot
>>61250768
torrenting and installing of cracked games is a must.
>>61252539
Consider the profit margin of apple and the permanent opportunity to enforce better work environment from their suppliers even with some money. They still don't give a shit while their money rotting at in an account of Cayman island.
>>61258674
I went to different locations and was able to use their filters, but you wouldn't know, would you? :^)
>>61252686
kek'd
Take my OC webm, anon.
>have iphone
>it's literal shit
>>61258674
>>61253155
>>61254645
don't reply to spammers and trolls. do what 4chan rules state about trolling outside /g/. let mods handle it. this guy is mentally ill and a spammer.
>>61260844
RARE
>>61250768
Pros for using an Android device:
>cheaper (actually they cost between $50-$16'000 so it's very relative)
>doesn't have overpriced accessories
>3.5mm port
>mSD
>better camera on most devices
>better battery life on most phones
>some devices have wireless charging
>back button
>can be used as a flash drive, without having to use LagTunes (so it can also be a Bootable Media)
>can share files with other devices over BT/WiFi
>deletable default/system apps
>superior rooting
>great variety of phones
>adjustable interface
>superior operating system overall
>better apps
>better multitasking
>file manager
>can download and install software outside a single app store
>can download certain files without 3rd party apps
>can download over 100MB at once
>can torrent, become a tiny server, overclock/underclock, and more
>AdAway, XPrivacy, AFWall+, Lucky Patcher, additional security and privacy apps, custom ROMs, system tweaks, easy recovery, more features and apps
>more useful apps for tech competent people
>even if you jailbreak an iPhone to get a few additional features, a rooted Android device still has 10x features, it even has more features when it's not rooted
>is an actual smartphone, instead of being an overpriced dumbphone
>pretty much a computer in your pocket
iPhones are made for consumers only, those who will just use social media and nothing else. They're just an expensive hobby, popular because mindless consumers worship brands. Android is made for everyone, including consumers, and can do almost anything a desktop OS can do, plus whatever iOS can do. Lower end Android devices may be slower, but they come at 1/8 price of an iPhone and still can do much more. You can almost always fix an Android phone yourself instead of paying a pajeet $100 to check what's wrong and another $200 to fix it. You can't turn an iPhone into a useful tool and you're very limited when using it.
>>61261572
I have already mentioned this in the OP but since you didn't bother reading it, I'll quote it:
>Now, I can understand defending Android for the freedom it provides, torrenting, third party repositories and customization is some of them. But, in the sake of preserving the hipster attitude and looking down on fruity toddler toys, the community overlooks the fundamental flaws in this operating system that needs to be addressed.
See, you are just trying to justify the Android's flaws by attacking iOS. I already acknowledged that Android provides more freedom compared to iOS. But this doesn't change the fact that last year's Android flagships are slower and laggier than last year's iPhone. People usually pay the same price for inferior experience in the long term. Android's security flaws, retarded garbage collection, fractured market, discontinued nature still persist and there. Fire up your search engine and search "<last years Android flagship> lagging" and you'll find many results and many angry users complaining about the performance. Being able to drag & drop music into your phone doesn't really justify the shitty performance.
>>61250768
No matter how nice Apple makes iOS, I'm still never using an iPhone as long as they keep insisting on sub-HD displays. Phablets need not apply.
>>61262087
Android hasn't had lag since Lollipop/Marshmallow. I haven't seen any android made after 2015 that lags, other than chink-tier phones. So you need to update your info about android phones, a lot has changed over the last 3 years.
There's no problem on the "android market".
There's no lag anymore unless you make it. And believe me, you can do the same on iOS.
Speaking of shit performance, pic related. Why would anyone buy products from such a shit company? Not to mention iPhones tend to overheat sometimes and they literally freeze and lag for around 10 seconds until they cool off.
>>61262482
> Android hasn't had lag since Lollipop/Marshmallow. I haven't seen any android made after 2015 that lags, other than chink-tier phones. So you need to update your info about android phones, a lot has changed over the last 3 years.
See >>61254916 >>61253155 >>61252920
> There's no problem on the "android market".
Yes there is. Preinstalled carrier/oem apps, bloated nature, discontinued phones from 2 years ago, losing proprietary camera drivers when you root and fractured market that puts lots of weight on app developers are some of them. There are more of these, just read through the thread.
> There's no lag anymore unless you make it. And believe me, you can do the same on iOS.
You can't do that on iOS.
See above.
> Speaking of shit performance, pic related. Why would anyone buy products from such a shit company? Not to mention iPhones tend to overheat sometimes and they literally freeze and lag for around 10 seconds until they cool off.
You need to update your info about ios phones, I never had issues like these. Some faulty phones you can immediately replace at an apple store doesn't really mean anything.
>>61250768
Please do NOT post photos of my husbando grape-kun again without asking.
>>61252920
>>61260730
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>61262620
So the only problem are manufacturers. The only significant bloat comes from Samsung. Most other brands include a stock android with maybe an app or two, or a different theme. You can use literally any of those brands. And you can uninstall all that shit or at least disable it.
Android O will take an approach to fix most problems, including separation of system and carrier apps. Or, you could just buy phones directly from source instead of buying it from TMobile and they won't sneak any apps (which, I repeat, you can remove without root).
>fractured market
This means literally nothing. Backwards compatibility is always appreciated but nobody is forcing developers to make their apps compatible with older android versions. Look at desktop operating systems and you'll see that 50% of desktop users are using an OS 8 years old. Obviously this isn't an issue to the market.
And over half devices are just made NOT to be updated. Shit companies do this to just make a cheap device and sell it to masses who will blindly buy it. So if you'd exclude those from the android market it would look much better. This isn't even a problem since nobody is forcing you to buy shit. Just get a Google phone or something.
If by fractured market you meant that literally everyone is selling android and can sell it, this isn't a flaw.
Even with all these flaws android is still a better OS and phones are powerful enough for anything these days. You literally don't need a meme superpowerful processor for anything. It's not like you'd want to do 4K gaming on a phone. iPhones don't bring anything that android already doesn't have.
As for security, it's a meme. Security is in the hands of the user.
Stop shilling Apple.
>>61254738
These 'leaks' were done by the celebrities themselves in order to stay relevant. Open your eyes anon
>>61262944
> (which, I repeat, you can remove without root).
False
> >fractured market
> This means literally nothing. Backwards compatibility is always appreciated but nobody is forcing developers to make their apps compatible with older android versions.
All of those pajeets who gives one stars to apps which don't run on their Android 5 or below phones sure doesn't help.
> And over half devices are just made NOT to be updated. Shit companies do this to just make a cheap device and sell it to masses who will blindly buy it. So if you'd exclude those from the android market it would look much better. This isn't even a problem since nobody is forcing you to buy shit. Just get a Google phone or something.
Google will supply updates to Pixel for 2 years. That is less than a half of Apple provides, which is 5 years.
> If by fractured market you meant that literally everyone is selling android and can sell it, this isn't a flaw.
No I meant that developers having to consider hundreds of different handsets when they are coding their apps is a flaw. There should be a standard where developers only has to consider different screen resolutions.
> Even with all these flaws android is still a better OS
False.
>and phones are powerful enough for anything these days. You literally don't need a meme superpowerful processor for anything. It's not like you'd want to do 4K gaming on a phone. iPhones don't bring anything that android already doesn't have.
iPhones bring stability and security, which Android handsets lack. Also putting 8GB ram on a phone still doesn't justify Java.
> As for security, it's a meme. Security is in the hands of the user.
Only for Android. You can't deliberately infect iOS.
> Stop shilling Apple.
Stop shilling Google.
>>61263124
>false
False
>false
False
>>61262297
Lmao. IPhones are literally sub-HD pieces of shit when it comes to their non-phablet lineup.