Ryzen Ram Settings

>>61245676
>ASUS
RIP in peace, anon. They make the worst AM4 boards aside from MSI.

>>61245703
I went with ASUS because of my experience with them in the past. I won't be making that mistake again

>>61245703
I've had pretty good luck with their high end. I've got my ram on my Ryzen 1700 up to 3466mhz with a 3200 kit.

>>61245676
Check to see if there are beta bios for the AGESA update, OP

>>61245976
Beta BIOS can potentially brick your shit, I'd say avoid.

why not just buy Gigabyte B350 Gaming 3 ?
its literally the best B350 board on the market with top audio ALC1220
I'm holding it in cart, and stopping my finger to press Checkout every single day

>>61245676
i have a b350 asus board on my r5 1600.
im running my ram at 3200mhz.
ram issues with ryzen have pretty much been fixed. update your bios. id it doesnt autodetect your ramspeedds select the D.O.C.P. profile for it. incedentally this will also enable XFR for your cpu.

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>asrock
>1.0.0.6 update
>default XMP
>66mhz oc for some reason

just works

Using the standard configs given by MSI I could only use the 2933MHz one. Trying 3200MHz just put it in a boot loop.

>>61246138

What board?

>>61246060
What DIMMS are you using? does it matter? Timings?

>>61246139
Same here actually. Maybe a future bios update will actually allow us to use our fucking ram

>>61245676
got the SLI PLUS and the flare x 3200 CL14 kit

I paid a premium price(specially that i live in eastern europe,kill me) but at least it werkd out-of-the-box.

Also OC'd the 1800x easily to 4.0, but it crashed at 4.1 in cinebench, i mean it's still like the cheapest x370 mobo

>>61246352
im using vengeance lpx 16gb kit with 8gigs each.
i dont actually know my timings. when i installed the system my ram would not go past 2400 mhz so i updated my bios and then it recognized the ram properly and then i just selected the docp profie that it offered me for my ram which made it run at 3200mhz and enabled XFR for me.

>>61245676
Got 16GB of 3200MHz b-die, wouldn't boot at 3200 stock but I'm having no problems OCing them up to at least 3866 (Haven't finished testing) by bumping my SoC to 1.2V. If you're having trouble that's one of the first things I'd do, it boosts the voltage on the memory controller and improves memory compatibility/reliability.
>>61245703
My crosshair vi hero says hi.

>>61245703
what the fuck are you talking about?MSI has like the best mobos for the prices they ask for, not to mention the BIOS patches they deliver are well-tested.

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Currently tweaking timings and voltage to get corsair vengeance stable at its XMP supported 3200mhz. Currently running 2933mhz rock solid on crosshair hero.

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>>61245676
Got 2133 corsair RAM for 200 bucks 32GB, runs at 2400mhz same latencies, that's Asrock quality boards for you.

>>61246798
>Assrock
I hope they don't drop support for your motherboard after 4 months too.

3200Mhz on a gigabyte AX370 gaming 5 since F6 BIOS
2933Mhz before that

>>61246689
3866? jesus that's almost double my speed

>>61246899
It probably also cost nearly double though ;_;

>>61246955
Do you notice any performance benefits?

>>61247057
Can't say yet, I only upgraded my rig to ryzen 2 days ago. In multithread optimized benchmarks I was definitely getting a decent boost in performance from 3200 -> 3866, my scores went up from the high 1500s to high 1600s/low 1700s in cinebench and my y-cruncher times on average went down a bit, from ~4s to compute 50m to ~3.6s. I'm running at 1440p anyways so I probably won't get the nice boost in performance you'd get with 1080p.

>>61246715
I think he is referring to the vrms, because msi didnt use the best quality. Im still loving my msi board tho.

Alright guys, since I haven't been upgrading my machine for a couple of years it's time again. I don't give a fk about gaming that's why I will go for a Ryzen 1600 and overclock it.

Now, you motherfuckers seem to know more about it.
1. Which AM4 motherboards are good and not too pricy?
2. I read that its recommended to go with the fastest RAM. True?
3. Let's say Ill buy a mid range GPU like a 1060 or the AMD equivalent. What kind of a PSU do I need to overclock my Ryzen? Are 550 watts enough?

Good to see im not the only one. I got it ine setting iver 2400 stabke but its LPX 3000. There is a new BIOS F5 for my board, GB B350. Maybe that will fix it.

>>61246311
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20AB350%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp#BIOS

>>61247252

>1. Which AM4 motherboards are good and not too pricy?

That is too vague - pricy is only in relation to your needs. Somehow - from your phrasing - I doubt you know what you need and that by definition means you don't need x370 boards and thus should be looking at B350 boards.

> I read that its recommended to go with the fastest RAM. True?

Fast ram is always a good thing but if you aren't gaming (and haven't specified what other software you use) then at face value get whatever the fuck.

> Are 550 watts enough?

If its a quality unit and not a shanghai street special, sure.

>>61247252
for ryzen fast ram is great since cpu performance scales with ram speed due to the architecture relying on the new kinds of chipsets that do some wizardry for you. any b350 motherboard is really enough for gayman. i do recommend msi, gigabyte or asus though. 550w is enough really. though you might get into trouble if you decide to add a second graphicscard. that being said sli or crossfire scaling are bullcrap and bad and if you decide to upgrade to a singular more powerful card in the future youre set, power requirements usually go down in future generations and efficiency usually goes up. just dont skimp on the powersupply its your lifeblood and safetynet. be sure to get one with surge protection and as many safety features as you can get, be quiet and corsair are always safe bets for powersupplies.

>>61247427
>msi, gigabyte or asus

Literally the three brands that offer the worst AM4 boards.

>>61247366
>That is too vague - pricy is only in relation to your needs. Somehow - from your phrasing - I doubt you know what you need and that by definition means you don't need x370 boards and thus should be looking at B350 boards.
Just programming and some music production
>Fast ram is always a good thing but if you aren't gaming (and haven't specified what other software you use) then at face value get whatever the fuck.
Since low latency is important in music production, I guess fast RAM will be crucial for me
>If its a quality unit and not a shanghai street special, sure.
Does SeaSonic still make good PSUs?

>>61247442

>Just programming and some music production

Then whatever - your board isn't going to be relevant unless you are overclocking (which you have not specified) or need a million drives.

>>61247480
Ive been reading everrywhere that overclocking the 1600 is totally worth it. I don't want to overdo it..

>>61247595
you dont have to oc now.
do i like 2 or 3 years from now down the line.
any am4 motherboard will allow you to oc a ryzen since theyre all unlocked and amd requires it of their manufacturer partners.

>>61247360
What the fuck. I have the same board and RAM, updated my BIOS, and selecting 3066 for my RAM frequency causes it to boot loop.

>>61247690
>is your cpu overlocked?
>what slot are your tam sticks in?

>>61247810
>ram

>>61247810
No, A2 and B2.

>>61246036
i just dont get why most am4 boards are so ugly

I just got a Ryzen CPU and apparently it's only running at 1.55 Ghz
B350 MATE motherboard

what am I supposed to do?

>>61247869
you might have a bad broad or ram

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>>61247869
try to reset your bios by removing the the black on pic related.

>>61248035
>black cap
shit I can't type today.

>>61247972
>1.55 Ghz
Ram or cpu?

>>61248150
CPU
Ryzen 1700
It runs games well enough though

>>61245676
This, but my mobo is gigabyte, im using Ryzen 5, and im using g.skill RAM with Samsung B-die

>>61248196
>Spent a fortune to buy a B-die
>Still get 2133

JUST

>>61248170
That's weird, I didn't even know you could get them to run that slow if you wanted to.
And I'm interested because I'm considering the b350 Mate.

What does the BIOS say?

>>61248219
Not really. I payed about 120 plus 20 in shipping for all my parts

I got a Ryzen 7 1700 , with 2x8 Corsair 3000 kit
runs on 2933 with no problems what so ever.
And the board is x370 Asus prime pro

>>61248256
>is it's a uefi?
Yes, you can say bios to refer to uefi if you are not an autist.

>>61248231
>Containment leak
>redpiller
>shill
Pick three

>>61248291
look here
>>61246138

I have the same cpu, ram, but I run it at 3066

look here

>>61248387
>>61246138
>>61247690
You do realize there are C14, C15 and C16 versions of that ram right?
They all look the same.

>>61248231
I hope the memory of this post is the last thing you think of when dying in your Intel house fire.

>>61248442
I have c15

>>61248220
Nevermind just me being an idiot
no problems as long as you don't overclock the ryzen 7. You shouldn't anyway, since the gains aren't that good.

Highest i can get on a c16 set of corsair vengence (3200 mhz) is 2800 without endless bootlooping

Let me guess you bought asus, msi, or gigabyte?

GB B350 Gaming 3 + R5 1600 + LPX 3200

Even with the latest F5 BIOS I can only get the RAM to run at 2933. 3200 will boot sporadically; most of the time it just loops. Once it boots it's completely stable though.

Haven't tried bumping up the SOC voltage from the default 1.1V.

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>tfw when you bought an Asrock board
>tfw everything just works

B350 tomahawk here. Still can only get 29990. I thought the latest agesa shit would finally get shit up to 3200.

Up to 2666MHz. Anything more and you're just wasting money really.

This is why I won't buy ryzen yet.
I don't wanna fuck around finding a mobo that actually works
And I don't want to mess around trying to get ddr4 working.

Once ryzen gets 4,500mhz ddr4 support, I'll buy a 1700x

>>61249176
Get an ASRock.
>4500 MHz
You hit diminishing returns well before that.

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>>61245676
At my work we use Team Group memory which isn't recognised by XMP and the default settings stop the boards from booting.
However if I manually put the timings, voltages etc. it works perfectly. Have you tried that?

Pic related, it's the ram we use, 16GB 3000mhz for the same price as 2133 Crucial/Patriot ram here in Australia.

>>61249176
4500MHz RAM? You only need about half that.

>>61245703
My Crosshair VI is pretty good.
With AGESA 1.0.0.6, everything works perfectly.
I'm running my G.Skill 3200C14 at it's XMP settings.

Asus does make a few mistakes on their trimmed down "GAMING PRO" boards, but their top and low-mid tier boards are very good.

>>61249176
Ryzen tops out at a theoretical 4000MHz by the inherent design of the memory controller.
This is a realistic limit of 3933MHz, which has only officially been achieved by ONE hardcore overclocker.

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>>61245676
2933 on the x370 titanium meme msi motherboard.
the most overpriced motherboard on the am4 market.

>>61246036
Get this. My ram is running at full speed (3200mhz) on this board.
All I had to do was update the BIOS.

>>61249874
The memory controller is on the cpu

>>61248789
>tfw when you bought an Asrock board
>tfw it just went EOL a few months after release

>tfw tomahawk
should have waited for the fucking taichi

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>>61249947
>tfw it just went EOL a few months after release
which one?

differently not pic related

>>61249827
Aside from infinity fabric seeming to like higher frequency RAM, what is the advantage of having 4000MHz?

>>61250011
Not much.
Some scientific applications benefit from it.

>>61245703
That's complete horse shit though. The Crosshair VI is rivalled only by the Taichi. The Prime X370-Plus has the best VRM setup of any mid-range board. The Prime B350-Plus is the best value of the budget boards.

MSI's B350 boards are also better than most. It's only the Xpower Platinum that's a complete piece of shit.

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>when you bought a gigabyte k5 motherboard and it boot loops when you enable xmp

>>61249212
>>61249706
Everyone told be buying fast 2400mhz ddr3 was dumb.
And now a Sandy bridge CPU preforms drastically better with 2400mhz ddr3 vs the standard 1333/1600mhz back then.
Faster ram has far better longevity
>>61250011
Removing bottlenecks later on.

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>>61250267
i have a msi b350 pc mate and it boot loops if i set the ram anything higher than 2800mhz, no matter if set it manually or use xmp.

>>61245676
>What RAM speed are you able to run on your Ryzen 7 setups?
RAMMING SPEED

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>>61250267
>gigabyte k5
theres your problem. the gaming 5 doesnt have this problem

>>61250267
I also have the K5, the XMP is straight up broken and the EZTune RAM OC sets it to retarded timings. I would strongly recommend overclocking RAM manually, set your DRAM voltage to 1.35, then set your memory speed and timings. One thing I noticed is it doesn't like odd numbers, I have CL15 RAM but I had to set it to CL16 to get it to work.

http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20AB350%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp#Specification

I have this mobo, but no idea what the mumbo jumbo is on the memory slot crap mentioned on there.

Was just planning on buying the 32gb 3200 Quad kit that is on the QVL list, but wondering if I'm missing something and shooting myself in the leg by doing 3200 period and/or using a quad kit. I'm not above using 2666, but alot of the 3200 kits are about the same price as the 2666's.

MSI Gaming Pro B350 +
Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 (C16)
Got it up to 2933. Sometimes a reboot causes it to loop once. 3200 won't boot at all. Worst of it all is I bought two sets but only one fits. So I have 16 gigs of 3200 memory sitting in their box.

>>61250661
Also is SS worst then DS?

>>61247360
>>61250661

>K4
RIP in peace, ASSCock released a new revision of your motherboard and moved the K4 to EOL without telling anyone (Check google for forum/leddit posts). I'd try to return/refund the board if I were you.

>>61251004
Nevermind, you guys have B350s, I'm dum.

>>61251020
Still appreciate the (you). You have any advice to the question though? Now I'm scared that I can only use 2400 quad kit according to that memory specification I linked.

Anyone here using the G.Skill Flare X RAM? How's it been treating you?

>Asrock shill everywhere
glad builzoid show me the light

>>61251073
yes, it's working as it should, and expected

Didn't overclocked it though

>>61249874
How the bios on that board

>>61251493
Thats good. I ordered the 16gb 3200 recently. Was going to get Trident Z but apparently the Flare X provided the best optimal performance for Ryzen.

I ordered a MSI X370 Krait and a Corsair Vengeance 3200 kit. What am I in for?

>>61251733
it's a good bios imo , stable too.

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>>61245703
i'm on the msi x370 sli plus and loving it desu. The lack of gamer bling is great.

I would have liked an intel nic, but at the low end of the price spectrum for x370 i cant complain about the realtek chip.

So ideally which mobo and 3200mhz RAM go great with a 1700?

>>61245703
MSI literally made the first compatible AMD brand board used in the official release idort

>>61245676
I had the same problem return the board and processor and ram and try again as the problem is gonna most likely be the RAM compatibility with the board, just get flareX honestly , getting the corsair shit to run @3200mhz is a real asspain on Ryzen

>>61249913
What ram are you using?

I got a 1700 and a Gigabyte AB350-Gaming 3 and Flare X RAM and that shit won't work, breadboarded it and fans spin but red CPU LED on the mobo

Had a friend test the CPU and RAM in his setup and they're fine so it's either the mobo or the PSU (RM650x), I did an RMA request on the mobo just to get the process started and the vendor wrote back saying that they can flash the BIOS for 15e and it will work

What is this bullshit, 1700 was literally the first Ryzen CPU released and the mobo claims Ryzen support so how is it possible that it needs BIOS update, for R5 I understand because those came out later but for R7? What the fuck guys help me

The Agesa 1.0.06 update finally allowed me to run my GSkill hynix ram at its rate 3200 CL16 speed. On a B350 tomahawk, which btw don't buy this board if you want to overclock your 1700x or 1800x, the VRM's suck ass and can't handle it

>>61248669
>no problems as long as you don't overclock the ryzen 7. You shouldn't anyway, since the gains aren't that good.

Going from 3.0 to 3.8 on 8 cores is "not a good gain"?

>>61254095
neat.

i don't mind that i don't overclock even though i have an overclocking board, the chip is fast enough for me

>>61254106
I'm happy with the stock speeds, but since I have a water cooler I could totally use the free performance. I bought my Ryzen 1700x the day it came out and didn't research my motherboard or ram choices very well. Will probably switch motherboards when Ryzen 2 comes out.

>>61250267
having the gaming K3, can boot using xmp 2933 kek

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>update my BIOS
>RAM was stuck at 2133mhz but I set it to full speed
>PC reboots and spends about a minute booting and rebooting
>SWEAT.jpg
>think it's fucked
>it finally boots normally with the right RAM speed

>>61254050
HELP

>>61254363
>AB350-Gaming 3
i am looking up your problem

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>>61254363
>>61254460
the first release of the bios on that motherboard supports 1700 so bios should not be the issue.
i would try another power supply, ask your friend or something. if that doesn't work, try using a single stick of ram , and move it from slot to slow and see if there is any diffrence.


http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-AB350-Gaming-3-rev-10#support-cpu

>>61254363

This could be a RAM issue, but try these things first...

>Remove CMOS battery and short jumper
>Make sure CPU is seated all the way
>Make sure BOTH motherboard power connectors are connected
>I assume you have a GPU installed?
>Try only 1 stick of RAM
>Try different DDR4 if you can

MSI Gaming Plus @ 3000mhz, could hit 3200 as a predefined option shows but was worried about pushing it to the limit.

Any risks in doing so?

>>61254721

Very very small chance of corrupting your OS install, but I wouldn't wort about. Worst case is you needing to clear CMOS.

Anyone got 3200mhz with 64GB ram? what board are you using?

I know 3200mhz is pretty good with 2*8 16gb total but anything above that seems to be flaky at best.

have stable 4ghz, try to push more ..... crash. now my stable 4ghz crash too. wtf just happen

i don't even change the voltage

Why do people shill Asrock over Gigabyte here? What's specifically better on Assrock?

>>61250267
>gaming K5
>not gaming 5
You fucked up

>>61250267
>have gigabyte X370 gaming 5
>XMP just wörks at 3200Mhz

>>61247441
>Literally the three brands that offer the worst AM4 boards.
Then who offers the best AM4 boards?

>>61256148
Asrock > gigabyte > MSI > Asus

>>61256153
>Asrock
Is Asrock reliable as a whole? I mean, they've just discontinued a 4 month old board (X370) because of some PCB defect that was short changing the ram, what's to say they didn't fuck up with the B350's too?

Looking at the "Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4" btw, and that MSI Tomahawk.

>>61256184
Never heard of any problems
For a B350 board look at the MSI pro carbon and Krait and the Asrock Pro4
Solid VRM and solid boards overall

>>61256224
Thanks, I'll check out the pro carbon and asrock pro4; the krait isn't available in my country (like so much other fucking shit ffs).

>>61256133
Those are real paid shill

>>61246798

>drinky snek

>>61253470
When I update my BIOS on mine to both v3.20 and v3.30 my 1600 gets stuck at 1550 MHz no matter what I do. I have to stick with v3.10 (the one it came with) and I can't get my ram past 2667 even though it's QVL at 3200 MHz and the XMP profile doesn't work. I've tried setting VRAM voltage to 1.5 and setting ultra loose timings in an attempt to step it up, but it can't do anything. Funny thing is I can run stupidly low timings at 2667, well below what 2667 ram sticks would normally run at.

Their support team just said "lol just wait for more updates"

>>61250009
the X370 K4 replaced with the Gaming X

>>61245676

i just bought 4x4GB 2400MHz ram and it worked straight out of the box (16GB total memory)

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>>61246138

how did you get the total speed in there?

My says 2400MHz in bios but 1200 in Task Manager

>>61256379
One point of note, pro4 is 3+2 vrm not 4+3 or 6+3 like many thought

my gigabyte r5 runs out of the box at 2800 (32gb 3200 ddr4). is it worth to overclock to 3200?

is this the power of AMD?

>>61256903
Double data rate, your memory runs at 1200MHz but you get 2400MT/s (megatransfers/s) of throughput.

>>61247972
The same thing happens to me. If I go beyond a certain voltage and whenever I wake my computer up from sleep, it downclocks to 1.55 GHz Goes back up to 3.7 GHz (the highest I can get without raising the voltage to a point where it automatically downclocks) when I reboot. This 1.55 number has been noted by a lot of others and no one seems to know how to fix it yet.

https://rog.asus.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-93267.html
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=287121.0
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/788311-ryzen-1600-cant-up-voltage/

I feel like I'm being cucked out of performance and I hope they figure this shit out soon.

>>61258499
Do you have any OC settings set?

>>61258499
Similar thing happen to me, on certain combination i got stuck at 2200 mhz. fix it by shutdown and drain power. tryin to avoid those combination

finally i found my 4ghz, but want those issue fix

Crucial value 2x16 gb rated for 2133 MHz cas 15 runs fine at 3200 MHz cas 16 at 1.4 volt (vsoc 1.0 volt).
At 220€ that's by far the best RAM you can get for ryzen.

>>61247972
>>61258499
>>61258792

I had it too. I had to roll back my BIOS as I mentioned earlier in >>61256605
Mine was stuck at 1.55 whenever I overclocked and the vcore was going up to 1.46v automatically.

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hynix and shitters btfo

>>61258968
>3440 RAM
Look out guys we have a badass over here.

>>61258599
I don't know if this is what you mean, but I increased the CPU clock and voltage in the BIOS and set windows 7 to high performace or whatever it's called in the power settings. I also disabled cool n quiet in the BIOS since I heard that leads to downclocking when idling.

>>61258792
yeah it's annoying, sorry.

>>61258883
I'll try that when I get home. My mobo (Gaming 5) arrived with BIOS version F4. I flashed it to F6 without a second thought. Thank you for the suggestion- there's no risk of bricking anything by rolling back to an old version, right?

>>61259115
>I'll try that when I get home. My mobo (Gaming 5) arrived with BIOS version F4. I flashed it to F6 without a second thought. Thank you for the suggestion- there's no risk of bricking anything by rolling back to an old version, right?
You shouldn't have to worry about it bricking from retrograding. It just flashes a new ROM over the existing one in the motherboards EEPROM. There's no kind of dependencies and whatnot like software installed into an operating system. I did the same thing after I got home and flashed from the MSI v1.31 to v1.33 right away after building and my shit was fucked. It took me all day after work to figure it out and make sure it wasn't some other power setting or whatever. I eventually tried 1.31 which worked and then tried 1.32 which didn't and went back to 1.31 again. The 1.31 version is the 1.0.04 AGESA update for MSI boards. MSI just released the 1.0.0.6 update BIOS (1.34) so I will try that and see if I have any luck with it. You might want to try your board's specific 1.0.0.4 BIOS update first to see if it works.

>>61259238
Thanks lad
>It took me all day after work to figure it out and make sure it wasn't some other power setting or whatever.
iktf, I spent most of last weekend tinkering until I said fuck it and was satisfied with rebooting every time it downclocked.

>>61256141
Did a bios update and it fixed it, now it runs at 2993.

>>61253830
Same as OP