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Weaponized ISPs

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Word is spreading that CNN, which is owned by Time Warner, got a reddit users IP from their mods, and with their relation to Time Warner, got his identity.

Then extorted him to apologize or be revealed.

This is huge, and we don't even know its the only time it has happened.

VPNs may not even truly protect you if the ISP can connect the dots over time, with time stamps.

Holy shit, CNN just weaponized ipv4
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>>61224567
>hack neighbors wifi
>use it

why not this?
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>>61224567
>Literally infringing constitutional rights.
What the fuck?
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>>61224572
So now you have to commit a crime in order to keep vertical monopolies from extorting you for propaganda gain? Goddamn
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>>61224567
That sounds pretty illegal.
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>>61224567
Was reading this earlier:
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6l8rb9/journalist_who_exposed_the_racist_creator_of/

The difference in narrative is significant.
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>>61224567
>What is Mullvad?
There are solid VPNs, besides, you shouldn't JUST be using a VPN.
You should be using as many levels of abstraction as possible.
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>>61224572
that's how you get arrested
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>>61224588
Well, no so much that as violating customer privacy in order to help out the agenda of another owned corperation.

I think this is something so vile that it pisses off all internet users regardless of political alignment
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>>61224588
Nothing to see here goy, go back to sleep.
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>>61224567
Oh my god. I knew CNN was shit, but damn.
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>>61224567
the funny part was the guy immediately apologized
if trump used one of my images and cnn came after me for it I'd post images of myself naked with my guns on 4chan again
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>>61224608
>>61224611
If there was ever a time when h4ck71v15m was needed, that time would be now.
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>>61224567
Yet more people trust CNN than they do Trump.
https://www.axios.com/exclusive-astonishing-poll-about-trump-and-media-2453120782.html
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>>61224625
>again
[CITATION NEEDED] ;)
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>>61224597
>politics
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>>61224597
lmao this is hilarious
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Just say you have a weak wifi password and the neighbor's kid must have hacked it and used it to shitpost or something.
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>>61224567
>Using identifying information that "HanA**holeSolo" posted on Reddit, KFile was able to determine key biographical details, to find the man's name using a Facebook search and ultimately corroborate details he had made available on Reddit.

Wow, it's fucking nothing. Retards spreading personal information under stupid usernames.
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>>61224628
(((Jon Cohen)))
oy vey
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TWC is now owned by Spectrum/Charter, BUT ATT is trying to merge with Time Warner right now so CNN could maybe have pulled strings either with old contacts in Time Warner Cable, OR future owners of ATT UVerse.

They could have said some BS about "one of your customers is spreading hate speech online, possibly violating "terms of service" tell us who he is".

Assuming they didn't just have to snap fingers for it.
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Joke's on them bc I got nothing to lose left
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>>61224666
(((Donald Trump)))
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>>>/pol/
stupid redditor
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I don't understand what the problem is? You are under no promise of security from reddit of all places. They could dox their entire community and it's all legal. It's how they combated the creepshot subreddit by outing the creeps, or at least the moderator.
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The internet and ipv4 is fucking dead.


Meshnet time.


HACK THE PLANET!!!!!!!
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>>61224691
You do have some premise of security that your ISP wont rat you to CNN, hell if it was the govt with a warrant maybe.
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>>61224680
You're never enough of a good goy.
You can try but you'll never fit in.
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trumplets btfo
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>>61224664
>>61224567
>Posts dumb racists shit on a reddit account linked to his facebook account.
>Immedieately bends the knee when he realizes /reddit, /pol and fb are not anonymous and they sell all your data.

Go back to your /pol/reddit circlejerk with this shit.

He deserves all this shit.
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>>61224741
(((wall)))
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>>61224757
He does, but its also another look into how these media machines operate when pushed.
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>>61224588
They've violated NY law according to wikileaks
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>>61224757
He deserves the whole lot of nothing that he got.
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>>61224567
> This is huge
how to spot a /pol/ shitter 101
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>>61224775
I really hope so, I'd love to see some litigation Gawker-esque occur.
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>>61224757
>Unironically defending CNN here
I'd say go back to communist russia but pravda had the decency to be subtle when they publicly blackmailed people.
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>>61224572
ProtonVPN through tor is a better option
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>>61224625
No, they threatened to reveal who he was and publicly defame him if he didn't apologize.

What CNN/Time Warner did here is all KINDS of fucked up and illegal. Even reddit's in shit for giving away a user's IP address like this.
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>>61224567
>weaponized ipv4
You're not wrong, but is "ipv4" there to say that ipv6 would have protected them? I thought it was the same shit but with more numbers and a pants on deadbeef retarded shorthand notation.
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>>61224567
>bending the knee so fast

Lmao, what a fag. If I'd created some stupid pro-trump meme and CNN got so assblasted about it they threatened me, I'd just spread that around as much as possible.
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>>61224800
Russia is our great ally and I would side with based Russia than Eurocucks any day.
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>>61224822
The dude must have had more at stake than a neet living in his mom's basement
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>>61224836
Yeah, he was a NEET living in his mom's garage. :^)
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>>61224567
>literally blackmail, guy didn't lawyer up and retire on $2 billion settlement

added to List Of Things: Never Happened / 10
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>>61224757
Yeah I dont believe that, we would have found it first like always if it was that easy.
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>>61224800
>Defending a racist /pol /reddit /facebook poster.
>CNN is data mining and collecting peoples info.
>Reddit never gave any info on the guy.
>FB never gave any info on the guy.
>/pol never gave any info on the guy
>CNN is the mastermind behind all of this media circus
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>>61224814
IP in general is fucked

Whats the issue is the lack of ISP choices and the ISP's being connected to propaganda outlets like CNN
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>>61224854
literally this
the reddit guy is the world's biggest loser right now for not telling cnn to fuck off and getting a lawyer
he wouldn't even need to pay, the guy would be salivating for this case
easily get contingency fee going and walk away with millions
this reeks of bullshit
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>>61224854
>sueing CNN and reddit
do you know how expensive that would be, to find a lawyer even willing to take such a case?

also, you're forgetting the part where its probably legal because ISPs can do anything they fucking want in America
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>>61224879
>expensive
no
this is the golden egg that lawyers live for and would easily use a contingency fee basis and get paid after eveything
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>>61224670

>They could have said some BS about "one of your customers is spreading hate speech online, possibly violating "terms of service" tell us who he is".

It's me mystery anon to tell you AT&T at least would tell them to fuck off.

Consider the ramifications of AT&T even giving the appearance of handing out private data in the absence of a subpoena or DHS order and if you don't believe they can be ethical about it believe in how that would impact FCC view of their upcoming Time Warner acquisition in a Trump presidency.

This is between CNN, Reddit, and the user only.
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>>61224854
His personal information is literally open to the public. That's not doxxing.
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>>61224893
this
straight shot blackmail+defamation case = raining benjamin for the guy and attorney
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>>61224893
>this is the golden egg that lawyers live for
he would've been contacted by dozens of lawyers by now then.
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>>61224628
polls said hillary had a 99% chance of winning
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>>61224909
which is why everything smells so fucking fishy
cnn is really ballsy or this is more FAKE NEWS
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>>61224902
Hahahahahha

See here is what happens, someone at an ISP tells CNN by secure phone line who it is, then CNN has an anonymous source, and that's that. They can make up whatever bs about using facebook or whatever after the fact.
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>>61224680
(((Right wing parties)))
Face it, its the truth. Jews are always one step ahead
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>>61224917
I thought /r/t_d and /pol/ were so big they could flip all online polls?
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>>61224925
>after the fact
You've watched too many Law & Order episodes. ;)
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>>61224567
Oh no! We have to protect that poor redditor at all cost!
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>>61224909
But technically, nobody knows this kid's name, so he can't be contacted by dozens of lawyers.
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>>61224567
What's the has to do with ISP? That kid literally posted his info on reddit and fb
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This isn't another CNN staged shit? so they can "scare that 4chan green frog hacker"
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>>61224947
They can contact him on reddit
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>>61224946
This goes for anything, CNN or some major connected news outlet gets your IP, gets it "anonymously sourced" to them who is associated with said IP, and your goose is cooked.
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>Not muddying the waters by roleplaying a fake alter ago with a different gender/age/career/location than your IRL self and confusing the hell out of any investigators

>Not deleting your account and creating a new one with a new alter ego every month
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Why do people think the admins were involved? Doxxing from post history is easy.
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>>61224966
Or you can just be a redditor that connected your real name to your shitposting handle
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>reddit normie with his actual name on goybook posts identifying information tying his goybook to his reddit account on reddit
>wow cnn is like hacking an isp and blackmailing them through coercion and violating his civil rights he should sue them right fellow based magapedes
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>>61224968
U-uhm... Kerry... if that even is your r-real name... c-can y-y-you p-please delete t-those nudes? :'(
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>>61224977
As a deafblind transgender Zimbabwean basket weaver who immigrated to Denver, Colorado at the age of 11 to open a Trappist brewery, I agree.
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>>61224996
Except when that happens usually some one here, or anywhere, gets the info prior to a news outlet, THEN the news outlet finds out. This is totally suspicious
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>>61224963
this is my opinion
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>>61225014
Maybe they are playing 5D chess and made the gif themselves
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>>61225038
Maybe they're playing 10D chess:
>Had Trump run for office.
>Turn media outrage against him to spark a faux-populist uprising.
>Act outraged when he won to further divide and conquer.
>Keep pressing this narrative, ever increasing his power within his cabals.
>Create the GIF as part of this plan.
>Release the GIF.
>Trump uses the GIF, spreading it further.
>'Dox' the 'real' creator to maximise public/populist outrage.
???
>Profit
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>>61224567
>talk shit get hit
seems about right
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Corporations can do whatever they want.
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I don't like Trump but how is threatening someone who made a satirical video and different to how Muslim extremists threatened newspaper cartoonists?

is it okay to threaten people if you're rich or something?
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>>61224567
Reminder everything posted on this site is satire, & parody.
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>>61224567
>Holy shit, CNN just weaponized ipv4
have you ever looked at the composition of CNN? it's 95% jewish or something. from execs down to reporters... it's all jews. and they just love calling you anti-semitic.
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>>61225093
>>61225088
welcome to capitalism
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>>61224604
No, these (((people))) should face as many years of prison as possible for blackmailing an individual. I should be able to express my opinion loud and clear, fear be with those in power.
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>>61224977
There's no reason to believe they found his Facebook from posting history.
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>>61224567
How the fuck did cnn find out his real name just using his reddit name?
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>>61225164
I didn't say otherwise you fucking retard.
Also, naïve idealism is all very well and good, but the real world is vastly different to your headspace and actually requires precautions and tools.
>See Machiavelli's realpolitik.
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>when is about net neutrality
"lmao companies should be able to do whatever they like MAGA"
>when said companies fuck you in the ass
>HURR DURR HOW CAN THEY DO THAT

Be congruent trumplets.
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>>61225182
Exactly, I'm not buying their story.
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>>61225182
That's doable, just google the username and see what happens, but what I do NOT believe is that CNN somehow did it before we did; everytime this happens, the internet hivemind finds the name prior to some slow moving media group.

This is fishy.
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The whole thing is STAGED HAS FUCK
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>>61225088
no this is extortion you dumbass
we don't live in anarchy, there are laws
capitalism barely functions in the modern US of Corporatism
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>>61225204
Why would magapedes target their own guy?
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>>61224567
>showed his remorse
what the fuck, it's a logo over a face in a gif
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even vox is calling this blackmail
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>>61225206
This is backpeddling because the first one paints them in a bad light
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>>61224588
>Trump and Republicans try to kill net neutrality and FCC laws in order to to allow ISPs to sell user data to the highest corporate bidders

>Trump? Then it must be good! He can't do any thing bad! Since it's Trump it's even a good thing then :p

>CNN does X
>FUUUUUUUUUCK FUCK THOSE BASTARDS, THEY'RE INFRINGING ON MY RIGHTS!

Just stop already, after what Trump and Republicans did, you will have to learn that internet privacy isn't a right anymore, it's a privilege. If you can't find ways to protect yourself, it's your own damn fault.
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>>61224977
Probably because the reddit admins are massive powertrip faggots like that. From what I've seen, they do everything they can to shut up that part of reddit. However, while I entertain the idea seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if CNN just found out through whatever methods they usually use in investigative journalism. Either way, CNN needs to be burned to the fucking ground financially so that they can never utter another jewish lie from their mouths ever again.
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>>61225233
>mfw people complain about ISP snooping while using facebook and google, the largest privacy violating botnets in the world
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>>61225233
>Net neutrality
>Anything to do with selling of customer info
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>>61225233
>Strawman
First of all, I'm British, so I don't and can't vote in US elections.
Second of all, backing YOUR constitutional rights isn't supporting Trump, or right-wing.
Third of all, I have espoused no support for Trump in my post, just dismay at the personal infringement.
So, in conclusion, shut the fuck up, you're as bad as /pol/tards when you start strawmanning people just because you want to feel like a good lil' contrarian.
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>>61225264

Hello CNN
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>>61225274
Go to: >>>/pol/
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Go home, /pol/
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>>61225233
>If you can't find ways to protect yourself, it's your own damn fault.

Pretty much this. We're beyond corporations and politics now, its every man for himself. Can't have loyalty to some faceless entity.
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>>61225316
I don't even care for /pol/
This is one facet of a huge issue about digital privacy
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>>61225254
With Facebook and Google, it's a given. We don't want anymore of that bullshit and that's why ISPs shouldn't be allowed to take your personal information and sell it to the highest bidders without our consent. We need less of these fucks, not more, and the Republicans just create a hell lot more.

>>61225258
I was specifically talking about FCC privacy rules, net neutrality hasn't been killed yet but Trump has his sight on it.

What annoys me is the amount of alt-right cucks that are willfully bending over and allowing ISP to fuck them in the ass just because their "God Emperor Trump" wants it. Fucking right-wing cuckoldry is making privacy a hassle on the Internet.

>>61225264
In case you didn't know, /pol/ has been spreading over like a cancer and people that didn't mind having their privacy infringed by advertisers are now butthurt just because CNN is involved.

I'm just saying, don't be a hypocrite. You're either pro-privacy (Against Trump and CNN doxing) or you're pro-cuck (With Trump and enjoy having ISP data mine you and send your information to the highest corporate bidder).
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>>61225233
>it's your own damn fault.
That's like saying every rape victim is at fault for not packing 24/7
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>>61225316
the media is literally exploiting a citizen of America on the fourth of july
nothing could top this in my mind
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>>61225233
That was an order Obama put in a few months before leaving office. It was an attempt for the FCC to take jurisdiction over ISPs, which are already regulated by the FTC.
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>>61225379
I'm of the former school of thought, not the latter, thanks.
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>>61225233
Net neutrality has nothing to do with this, stop sucking down toxic memes
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>>61225391
not exploit, extort
lots of 4th of july drinking
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>>61225380
it actually is, nobody should go their life not knowing how to defend themselves
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>>61225395
Google/Facebook would profit more with the way dems want it, so they'd have a monopoly in the selling data market
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>>61225380
No, that's like saying you deserve to get raped if you're wearing slut clothes and walking around in a dangerous ghetto at midnight.

With Republicans in power, you will need to understand privacy isn't a right anymore. You can't say what you want on the Internet anymore and you will just be an "item" from botnets like Facebook, Google and ISPs now to advertisers willing to pay big bucks to learn everything about your lifestyle.
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DOUBLE
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0e7xRZvVKFY
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THINK
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>>61224636
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>>61225216
Who gives a fuck poorfag? Money rules this Earth. Don't wanna get doxxed then don't shitpost about us while using our services.
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>>61225233
>if you don't criticize x, then you can't criticize y.
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>>61225454
>I don't want to criticize person A for having done X, but I certainly want to criticize person B for doing it

Shut up cuck.
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>>61225430
>>61225430
>No, that's like saying you deserve to get raped if you're wearing slut clothes and walking around in a dangerous ghetto at midnight.
But that's true?
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>>61225430
>implying the Democrats didn't allow this as well
Your first mistake is thinking that the fault is with one side of the same face. Big government, regardless of the party it's aligned with, is always seeking to infringe your freedoms.
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>>61225430
FCC privacy rules literally did not protect from Google & Facebook
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>>61225474
These are two different things you coon.
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Can I get a quick rundown on what the fuck is happening?
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>>61225430
this is literally the case with either political party.

Obama only expanded their ability to do this, and Trump will continue it

>net neutrality act
This was put into affect only a month before Trump was elected. it was meant to be repealed to make Trump look bad.
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>>61225427
ISPs would just put a line in their ToS, making you opt in to their data harvesting for using their internet. The FCC regulation was giving them the option to start selling your data.
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>>61225452
fuck off kike
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>>61225204
Or just bribe someone at Reddit HQ, or someone at Reddit HQ just gave it up willingly.
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>>61225501
Get another ISP, poorfag
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>>61224567
This is kind of unsettling, or at least it would be if the guy hadn't linked his real life identity with his reddit account. And not just his age, or a state he lives in, but his literal Facebook page with all of that is connected to his reddit account. If it was just a butthurt reporter doxing him it would be no big deal, Reddit AND the ISP giving up his information to a member of the media just because they wanted to publicly shame a private citizen is crazy.
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>>61224572
McDonald's is better
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Did CNN actually use their status as an ISP to find this guy's real identity or did the guy just have his reddit linked to his Facebook so anyone with Google could put two and two together?
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>>61225536
If he linked his info to his reddit we would already know his name right now. That's BS I dont buy it.

Julian Assange seems very pissed on this, posted a good vid

https://mobile.twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/882450827339812865
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>>61225548
They snooped around to get enough info to find his facebook or something. Kinda like what 4chan or tumblr does. The difference here is that we have a major "news" network doing this instead of some faceless groupthink.
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>>61225487
The actions are different (One selling your data and the other attempting to dox even though the information was private) but the issue is the same, privacy. You can't pretend that privacy doesn't matter one second ago then go apeshit about it a second later.

>>61225475
Yep, if you do dumb shit on the Internet and/or don't properly make sure your information is hidden, then you deserve to have your privacy infringed.

>>61225476
> Big government, regardless of the party it's aligned with, is always seeking to infringe your freedoms.

In this case, big government was good because the FCC privacy laws were a federal thing that all states had to obey. Now states can do whatever they want, if some state lawmaker gets lobbied and passes laws allowing ISPs to send more of your private data to advertisers, there will be no federal law protecting you from such a thing.

>>61225481
You can't stop the botnet on Facebook and Google, it wasn't done under either Democrats or Republicans, it's just the way things are for companies like Facebook & Google.

The issue here is that this type of power is now given to ISPs. You can hide from Facebook & Google by not using them, but you can't hide from ISPs, they will know everything about you and all that information will be stored somewhere ready to get sold to the highest bidder. So while you could avoid FB & Google, you can't avoid the likes of Verizon and Comcast.

>>61225495
Nope, not true. Obama passed FCC laws forcing ISPs to ask user consent before selling their information to advertisers. With those FCC laws gone, ISPs, depending on the states, are now able to sell your information without ever asking your permission like before.
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>>61225553
We're entering some dark times if corporations are now doxing civilians over going against the group-think, are they going to brand the next shitposter who insults CNN?
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>>61225491
Anon posts anti-CNN, pro-Trump meme on reddit that he made
CNN finds out who anon is through connections with le reddit friends
CNN threatens the guy that they will broadcast his name and location on their network if he doesn't comply with them
CNN posts about how the guy complied with their demands, so he will get to remain anonymous
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Blame nobody but yourself when this happens. Shouldn't be posting sensitive shit without proper OPSEC. A proper live Linux system with pre-configured Tor is the bare minimum in counter-measures he should have employed. He let his personal identity show through and they found a way to fuck him. He's lucky they didn't actually publish it.

This isn't illegal in any way. Companies don't need a warrant to use their own data.
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>>61225548
Reddit either turned over all of the private data they had regarding him, or they simply gave the IP addresses and CNN used their sister company AT&T to unmask him.
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Reddit they they will dox you if you commit wrongthink
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>>61225577
having your life ruined because you made a silly 2 second joke webm?
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>>61225577
He didn't post any sensitive shit, he signed up to a website that purported to keep one's email address, password, and any other personally identifying information private.
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>>61224567
Let them dox and blackmail us. They have information, we have guns and loads of angry people to wield them. The Lügenpresse will be dragged out back and shot.

And why do plebbit bitches never learn?
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>>61225233
>blaming the victim
stop raping me shitlord
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>>61225577
Coercion is illegal.
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>>61224567
>thinking a billion dollar empire gives a shit about some random faggot no ones knows nor cares about
Bet you think that there is a team of people observing each of the /pol/ virgins too.

>>61224597
Now that sounds more likely.
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What say we give the Cuck News Network a taste of their own medicine?
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>>61225577
That's not even the issue, that retarded r/the_donald redditer already made his information public by linking his reddit account to his Facebook account.

You don't need to go so far as to have a Linux system and TOR, just basic common sense. If you're an edgelord who spends all his time on the Internet writing shit you wouldn't dare say in real life (Like FUCK JEWS and FUCK ISLAM), then you should be as anonymous as possible. That retard didn't know that.

>>61225491
Some retard posted anti-CNN shit
CNN found his information
He apologized
CNN claims he apologized without them even asking an apology
Some /pol/lacks think CNN threatened to dox him if he didn't apologize

That's it. The problem here is that people think companies like CNN don't have the right to dox people for their political beliefs, but CNN has said it never tried to dox him. Believe who you want, that's the story.

>>61225447
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>>61225583
*says they will
Fucking auto correct
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>>61225601
The very headlining story on their front page is about that very faggot
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>>61225563
Not a major news network but a journalist with too much free time who works for a major news network. That's a huge fucking difference. Joking about the orange monkey gets boring, so the guy probably needed a break. Why not dox some annoying kid?
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>>61225625
Afterwards. Did they seriously report about him before he got his 2 minutes of fame?
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>>61225601
Ever heard of shareblue, for starters?
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shut it down goyim!
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>>61225604
G-guise I doxxed CNN:
Some guy named Ted Turner. His ex-wife is some actress named Jane Fonda.
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>believe in view that also appeals to bad people
>"oh no please don't tell irl"
>apologize for it
You would think these memesters would have a backbone. It's not like people care if you made a terrible meme.
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>>61225642
Yes, they've been crying more about his daft meme more than covering actual news
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>>61225651
FULL DAMAGE CONTROL
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>>61225620
>Some /pol/lacks think CNN threatened to dox him if he didn't apologize
>think
it's stated in no uncertain terms on cnn.com
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>>61225656
>You would think these memesters would have a backbone

Dude, you may be an obese basement dwelling virgin who has nothing to lose by being associated to hateful rhetoric on the Internet, but many, MANY, people do have much to lose if people found out they are secretly anti-semitic/racist.

What's surprising about this is that this guy on r/the_donald has something of value to defend, I thought no such thing existed on that subreddit.
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>>61225643
>shareblue
Not really, I try to avoid murican media. Most of it is unprofessional and vague crap.

Seems like a company focusing on anti Trump news, what about them?

>>61225657
Nigga, this is 2017. Nobody gives a shit about news anymore.
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>>61224905
You're right, everse-engineering / breaching someone's account with their ISP and then publicly blackmailing them into apologizng for a silly little .gif or they'll destroy their lives and the lives of their family members is worse than doxing, especially when the ones doing it are a major news organization. Can you imagine a massively powerful corporation doing that to you for posting a pepe picture online?
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>>61225656
>have a multibillion dollar corporation breathing down your neck and threatening to release your identity, probably including your address, at a time when the "we need to exterminate donald trump and racism #Resist *retweets CNN article" types are known for frequent outbursts of violence and harassment
you'd make an insincere apology too
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>>61225677
Didn't the faggot got a FB account? It's pretty easy to find out someones identity without bothering with anything like IP or doing anything more than a simple google search.
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>>61225620
Can't you comprehend the difference between
>>61225439 and >>61225447
you double nigger?
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>>61225600
And giving people the chance to coerce you is stupid. Who cares if it's illegal? People are gonna do it anyway. People have to recognize that fact, and maneuver out of reach before they're in position to cause damage.
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>>61225620
Please read the article before posting.
http://archive.is/o7izm#selection-1233.0-1233.73
Also, Julian Assange has nothing to do with /pol/.
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>>61225694
All irrelevant. I want CNN charged.
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>>61225699
Then file a lawsuit, faggot.
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>>61225577
Yeah man, this is totally necessary to post a poorly edited gif mocking CNN. Land of the free, where you need to act like a fucking defector of a third world country to not have the mainstream media dox you.
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>>61225690
I dont buy that because we would already know his name, someone else aside from cnn would have gotten it first if it was that easy, or at least gotten it before he took shit down.

But we dont know his name, NOBODY knows. Its fishy, thats why I think cnn got the ip from reddit, and pulled some strings called a couple folks, then got the identity.
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>>61225675
>being this much of a new fag.
They have dedicated teams for combating online "hate speech"(read as speech they don't agree with) specifically on /pol/ and political sub leddits.
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>>61224591
Not on capitalism.
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>>61224567
It's to be expected. They are a dying industry. Once the baby boomers are gone, so are the news networks.
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>>61225694
This, the law is only there to keep plebs in line and crucify those who dont make clean getaways.
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>>61225702
I'm in England and coercion is not a civil matter anyway.
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After Trump tweeted the video on Sunday, "HanA**holeSolo" took to Reddit to say he was "honored," writing "Holy s—!! I wake up and have my morning coffee and who retweets my s—post but the MAGA EMPORER himself!!! I am honored!!" MAGA is an acronym for the President's campaign slogan: Make America great again."
In the phone interview on Tuesday, "HanA**holeSolo" said the White House did not ask his permission to use the GIF, and said he probably would have said no if they had.
"I didn't realize that post would be picked up the way it was, he said. "I should have never even said anything."

Fucking amazing how quick these spineless cucks change their views when they aren't behind their keyboards.
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>>61225589
It's not just the webm. It's all the heinous shit he posted before the webm. The webm was just the catalyst because the President of the United States is a fucking internet troll having a power trip.
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>>61225621
>newfag doesn't know how to edit a post
EDIT: spelling
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>>61225699
Then charge them yourself. You think the guy who backed down on threat of dox is gonna sue them? Lol. You fucking people are all "I want this done" but who's gonna do it? You? Fuck no. Nobody cares what you want. You're just a bystander who thinks "somebody will call the police". That's why you don't matter. You're nobody. If you want your will done then you gotta take responsibility and be somebody.
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>>61225726
the apology that the account posted on reddit could possibly be a reddit admin edit.
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>>61225709
Oh please, some Ars journalist got the secret twitter account from some FBI guy by simply doing a research. That's the fucking FBI, so he probably knows his shit. Some fat kid posting Trump memes or whatever the faggot did, is not the pinnacle of intelligence or knowhow, so even easier to find.

>>61225710
>(read as speech they don't agree with)
WAAH, I WANNA LYNCH NIGGERS AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY IT.
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>>61225720
i just hope CNN fucking dies already, other media lie too but CNN is the worst of the worst
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>>61225565
>Obama passed FCC laws forcing ISPs to ask user consent before selling their information to advertisers
You dense sisterfucker.
FCC regulations say they can sell your data if you opt in. This is what Google and Facebook do: when you sign up you agree to have them farm your shit to sell. They were going to give this option to ISPs, who DON'T have that option right now because they're under FTC regulation. ISPs are currently not allowed to sell any of your data whatsoever, and may only give out personally identifiable information from a court order.
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>>61225706
I think the thing that really made CNN flip its lid is the fact that this reddit user reposted a big compilation image of CNN managers and writers with Stars of David next to their portraits.

CNN is immunized against all dangers. You can call CNN fake news, failing trash, clickbait, yellow journalism, propaganda; it all runs off them like water off a duck's back. But share the interesting little piece of trivia that every significant CNN employee is Jewish, and they'll go apeshit.
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>>61225758
Have you ever heard of Fox News?
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>>61225747
WAAAH SOMEONE SAID THAT SHARIA IS OPPRESSIVE WAAH THIS IS HATE SPEECH WAAAAAA BAN IT
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>>61224597
>HuffPo
>r/politics
I trust Wikileaks way more, thank you.
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>>61225767
CNN is even lower than Fox News. And that's saying something.
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But why would a mega media outlet would publicly threaten an individual for expressing his opinions when there are more interesting topics to report, say, the dox information of Baltimore rioters and such people who actually cause damage to general public?
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>>61224625
Godammit /k/
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>>61225767
Hello person from 2006.
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>>61225758
CNN is so desperate to stay relevant that they've been exposed as conducting yellow journalism. It's up to the populace to decide whether it will be their undoing, or if they'll just be seen as a televised National Enquirer.
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>>61225767
Not even that bad anymore. People only seem to remember their nonsense from the Bush years. CNN and Fox have effectively switched places now.
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>>61225747
>I LOVE CORPORATE TYRANTS!
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>>61225788
and CNN is more international, when they lie they don't just lie to USA, they spread it everyfuckingwhere even third world countries they even change things, they are the worst
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>>61225601
Imagine being this naive.
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>>61225799
>CNN and Fox have effectively switched places now.
Kinda like the Democratic and Republican parties.
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>>61225807
kys commie
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>>61224567
lmao remember when wikileaks used to be relevant and not just a bullhorn for a reddit shitposter?
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>>61225782
How is banning relevant to a company doing it? Free speech guarantees that you don't get into the trouble with the GOVERNMENT for saying something they disagree with. It doesn't have anything to do with public reaction towards you.

>>61225764
I bet there is no way to find it out over wiki or a simply Google search.

>>61225799
They were still at something like 30% truth and waved the accusation away with "WE ENTERTAINMENT". CNN can do it too if they sink far enough.
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>>61225706
You people need to realize that violence isn't just physical. It's a fact that these "activists" are extremely violent. They verbally attack people. Other people will react to that violence. It can and does cause escalation. He obviously thought he was shielded from repercussions but CNN proved him wrong by making a move that threatened to remove that shield. He backed down. That's how violence works.

It's interesting how it's in supposedly "civilized" circles that people most commonly cross each other. All it takes for you people to melt down is a powerful player's rather tame reaction to an attack. You people wouldn't last a day on the streets, where you are immediately held accountable for your words and actions.

Don't want people to threaten you? Give them nothing to threaten.
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>>61225316
>anyone who actually cares is /pol/.
Please.
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>>61225817
You don't have to be a commie to hate overreach that corporations have in power.
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>>61225747
I'm not saying cnn cant find people normally, I'm saying the whole internet was searching, what are the odds that only cnn found out, and NO one else did? Very very small
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>Klendathu Drop theme intensifies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rx8_vjbXX4

Time to strap up for another meme war boys
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>>61225809
It's all in the water, wake up sheeple. The reptilian jews are controlling us with the help of niggers and muslims.
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Why are these people so scared of getting their info out, afraid someone will try to murder you over jew jokes? If that's the case then you have larger problems than privacy breaches and racism, try sorting out your mentally ill people first
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>>61225838
turns out tinfoil "interdimensional vampires" alex was actually right about the shit in the water turning the fricking frogs gay
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>>61225825
The term you're looking for, which Julian Assange came up with when WikiLeaks was roundly no-platformed by banks for exposing a US war crime, is "privatised censorship".

>It doesn't have anything to do with public reaction towards you.
wtf i love yellow journalism and corporate tyranny now
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>>61225799
Both are shit. You don't get to trample on the name of journalism, and then come back. Once you hit National Enquirer status, there's no coming back.

CNN and Fox News are on the same level as Buzzfeed.
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>>61225841
Remember how hard David Dao was slandered for standing up to a corporation? Yeah...
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>>61224567
He's a plebittor, he deserves it for being a retard. Nice meme though.
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>>61225838
Imagine being this butthurt.
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>>61224832
>mfw everyday russia sounds better and better
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>>61225831
>posting a gif is "extremely violent"
>verbal attacks are "violence"
>"just shut the fuck up goy and we won't smash your head in"
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>>61225825
Yeah I always forget that I shouldn't hold journalist to a high standard of "principals"
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>>61225855
Businesses have way too much power and it's way overdue we do something about it!
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>>61225430
You are a god damned retard. Not using a VPN and not taking legitimate internet precautions and supporting Trump's FCC cucks is the equivalent of selling your body at a whorehouse and then complaining that someone took advantage of you.

ISPs are not weaponised, they already know exactly what you are doing and what you are doing and now the government that you elected are giving them permission to do whatever they like.

That's the future you voted for.
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>>61224597
is this satire? i try to avoid this stuff, but these people seem pretty insane.
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>>61225850

Its all fucking staged, CNN got caught before crafting evidence, and this one smell too fishy to be real
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>>61225841
>afraid someone will try to murder you over jew jokes
Democrats of the #Resist #NotMyPresident variety, who for some reason have now adopted CNN as their shining beacon of whatever-the-fuck, have been violent recently. And frankly I'd be shitting bricks if CNN posted my dox on their front page, and I haven't even done anything to attract any condemnation. I just don't want my personal information anywhere public.
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>>61225866
Why didn't you listen?
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>>61225874
Net neutrality has nothing to do with this, but whatever makes u feel good about hating drumpf bro
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>>61224567
How about actually look through an archive of this guy's profile and posts to see what he linked about himself?
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>>61225834
>the whole internet
Now consider what kind of people with any knowhow really give a shit about some faggot memer? Besides, searching for how long?

>>61225850
>"privatised censorship"
Which is perfectly legitime with our current laws. If you let corporations write the laws, you get fucked, big fucking news.
Besides, it's silly to compare hateful shit from neckbeards with important information WikiLeaks provided. The later could be ensured with some transparency laws. The former is irrelevant shit.

The big difference between WL and some /pol/ fags is that one side posts actual data. Data has worth. Opinions from dumb shits, doesn't.
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Why does 4chan tells me I am banned in fact, I am not? Banned page tells me I am clear.
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>>61225882
>bernie would have one giant govt isp
>as if one govt isp would be safer
Hahahahahaha. No
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>>61225863
Like what? Exposing someone who spreads hatred sounds like a pretty good principle, though I have no idea what this faggot did nor care.
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>>61225890
Get censored, fag.
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>>61225855
>look up dao
>read the first news about the agreement they've come to
>UNITED TOOK FULL RESPONSIBILITY WITHOUT BLAMIMG OTHERS AND FOR THAT THEY DESERVE TO BE APPLAUDED
What the fuck is wrong with you people
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>>61225890
>ow consider what kind of people with any knowhow really give a shit about some faggot memer? Besides, searching for how long?

How long have you been here buddy?

Plus antifa would want to know and were looking
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>>61225889
Are there even such archives left?
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>>61225881

real or not it's hilarious watching cnn get shat on
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>>61225581
do you think Hiro would sell us out like that?
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>>61225900
>Exposing someone who spreads hatred sounds like a pretty good principle
He posted a fucking gif on reddit. Don't treat random memers like Islamic State recruiters.
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>>61225879
>Its all fucking staged, CNN got caught before crafting evidence, and this one smell too fishy to be real

let's call it what it is, TERRORISM
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>>61225850
Are we doing these images now?
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>>61225905
Since when do antifa got researches working for them?
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>>61225904
>many months later I looked up and found this...
Yeah, except at the time they tried to defame him with some bullshit fake news about him having traded drugs for gay sex. How new are you?
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>>61225912
Ask 2chan
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>>61225907
WayBackMachine?
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>>61225900
>pasting CNN over the face of a wrestler who gets rekt by Trump
>spreading hatred
Choose one
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REDDITORS ABSOLUTELY REKT
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>>61225900
Well aren't we glad we have retards such as yourself who hold opinions on topics they didn't even bother to research beforehand
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Cross-linking /pol/ thread...

>>>/pol/132435012
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>>61225925
fuck I dont speak japanese
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>>61225860
They are violence. He kept posting them because he wanted things to change. They didn't want him to post them. All they had to do to make the guy stop posting them is threaten to reveal his identity. It's simple.

Violence is what you do to make unwilling people change their behavior. Don't start shit if you're not prepared to go all the way. They can and will escalate to threats and possibly more.
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>>61225900
>Faggot

How homophobic of you, you deserved to get doxed
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>>61225924
I remember that part but I forgot the details and looked it up again now to remind myself.
It was like a few days after the incident
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>>61225925
2ch
2chan, known as futaba, is/was operated by someone else.
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>>61225918
Islamic State recruiters get slapped with jail terms if there is a proof. This faggot got a slap of reality. It's not like he got beat up.
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>>61224920
Nah the guy is fully cucked, unless reddit faked this post then deleted his account
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>>61225922
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>>61225923
If its as easy as people say that he reused usernames and had a link to his facebook, it doesn't take rocket science, we'd know his name.

CNN must have had backdoor access to some piece of info from reddit and took it from there
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>>61225690
He didn't post in on his FB account. He posted it on his reddit account, along with biographical details that they were able to cross-reference to his FB account, which is doxxing. It is the textbook definition of doxxing, the same shit that will get a thread deleted and possibly catch you a ban if you do it collaboratively here.

And that's if you believe CNN's story, and believe that's what they did.
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>>61225922
You have to be shitting me.
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>>61225950
>what is context
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>>61225918
ISIS is protected on facebook. People who are known terrorists are left alone. But dare to have have a political outlook more right wing than communism itself then your fresh meat.
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careful what you say /g/entlemen, I'd be a shame if a major news organization came after you :^)
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>>61225900
Yeah abusing your overwhelming corporate power to dox someone over a dumb gif so redditors can do " the dirty work" and not be responsible for whatever any personal problems he face is what I look for in quality journalism. Its not like they need the name of the person or even write a pointless article about dumb trivial shit.
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>>61225946
ah right, so criticizing cnn or posting a meme gif is violence, but pic related is mere speech
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We gotta keep this topic alive here, this is huge, especially if his IP were used to find his info
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>>61225959

Remember to report thought crime citizen, we don't want to tolerate wrong-think now do we?
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>>61225986
you must be /pol/ URGH! this doesn't agree with my personal outlook on life. EE gad!
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>>61225964
>implying he wrote that
CNN probably wrote it and told him to post it
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>>61225726
>It's funny how these niggers change their mind when the KKK rolls through town
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>>61225223
>when you fuck up sp badly that even Vox sides with the right wing
Jesus Christ. Somebody tear CNN a new asshole.
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>>61225959
his home would be torched sooner or later in this deranged climate

do you think this is acceptable and ethical behaviour for a news corporation?
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>>61225972
It's doxxing here because muh 4chains anonymity but connecting two accounts with one person seems too general for the definition. Things like house address and the likes are needed. Besides, these days people post so much shit about themselves online, all it takes is to look it up.
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>>61225974
>Exposing someone who spreads hatred

You deserve to get doxed for using a pejorative term just as much as the faggot does for posting a silly fake wrestling meme
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>>61225316
I've been on /g/ 4 years longer than I've been on /pol/. If anything this IS my home. Get with the times, lefty. The new counter culture is right wing.
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>>61225964
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>>61225946
What kind of a fucked up world are you living in buddy, here in ours corporations aren't praised for their act of trying to influence people behavior
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>>61225986
I don't give a fuck about your pic. CNN obviously cared enough about his pics to want him to stop, and they made him stop. That's all there is to it. Don't want to stop? Don't let anyone make you.
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>>61225964
link faget I can't find it
how do you even browse reddit wtf
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>>61225989
Wouldn't "though crime" imply thinking?

>>61225997
>his home would be torched sooner or later in this deranged climate
Muh assumptions.

>do you think this is acceptable and ethical behaviour for a news corporation?
It's laughable but where is the proof the CNN journalist did it for CNN and not during his free time? They only reported the aftermath.

>>61226001
Sure, feel free to.
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>>61225726
There's a reason I post here, and not reddit, twitter, Disqus, or whatever. Had the dude created that here, he could have claimed that it was his all he wanted, and nobody would believe him. There would also be no repercussions.
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Nothing to hide nothing to fear
Only pedos and terrorists need privacy
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So wait a moment wasn't there people who were known terrorists and recruiting online but nothing happened to them? but this kid gets attacked for posting a meme?
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>>61226004
>right wing
>culture
Ahahaha.
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>>61226018
I loathe this argument. That's like saying nobody needs free speech except for dissidents, nobody needs guns but bloodthirsty murders, or nobody needs a legal defense except for criminals.
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how would CNN go about getting his info though?
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>>61226015
CNN both constantly reports trump supporters being attacked and then says they'll leak the real name of someone they don't like as a trump supporter.
Do the math.
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>>61226018
What if I'm both, do I need double the privacy?
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That would be illegal.

I'm betting they just PMed him while pretending they were from Breitbart and got his identity that way.

I don't see anything wrong with what CNN did here. If the guy had only posted that gif that would be one thing, but they went through his post history and found a bunch of /pol/-tier shit. I'd hold it over his head too.
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>>61226014
I got the picture on /pol/ and a google search found this

The_Donald/comments/6l8z7v/to_my_fellow_redditors_in_this_community_the_rest/
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You guys are aware that he is just a kid, right?

https://twitter.com/DLoesch/status/882464560376147968
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>>61226026
you /leftypol/ faggots are going to turn me into pinochet one of these fucking days. You try to make things political but get asshurt when it's anything more right than communism.
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>>61226015
>It's laughable but where is the proof the CNN journalist did it for CNN and not during his free time?
CNN's headline begins with words to the effect of "How CNN tracked down..."

>>61226007
Sounding like a sociopath there Chaim.
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>>61226029
>trump supporters being attacked
Generally after they did something first.
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>>61226028
Usual doxxing strats. It's remarkably easy to link people's accounts to their real names- you google their account names, their profile details, and even some posts they make to see if it matches facebook posts.
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>>61226044
Yeah being guilty of wrongthink
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>>61225964
It doesn't look like the rhetoric of a shitposter.
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>>61225316
This is your issue to.
Can't even deny it.
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>>61226034
Back to reddít, pal
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>>61224567
>Word is spreading that CNN, which is owned by Time Warner, got a reddit users IP from their mods,
source?????????
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>>61226038
>le edgy helicopter meems XDDDDDDD
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>>61226035
whoa it's deleted now
I guess he deleted his account? how do I check
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>>61226015
>Sure, feel free to.

Well at least you concede that you're an idiot
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>>61226034
I hope someone holds a piano over your head you spiteful shit.
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>>61225922
how the fuck is this real?
https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/785299709342654465
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>>61226044
Yeah, like posting a gif online

>>61226056
I wouldn't be surprised if it did turn out that they used the time warner connection to find the guy- EG, IP address from reddit, real details from time warner using the IP address, but there's going to need to be some evidence for it.
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>>61226058
Somebody is triggered. Hopefully you get yourself imprisoned for wrongthink.
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>>61226044
like making internet gifs
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>>61226037
Yep, the average age of the alt-right cuck that browses /pol/ and r/the_donald, not so surprising.

Thinking about Trump himself using a gif made by a 15 year old kid is way too hilarious
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>>61226059
https://www.reddit.com/user/hanassholesolo

If you put in a non-existant account is shows as "page does not exist"
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>>61225206
6:13 pm
6:58 pm

this nigga really try and backpedal 40 minutes later? It must've only been like one or two tweets from the top of his feed
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If CNN somehow doxxed him without getting some extra help, how come nobody else has managed to dox him?
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>>61225998
Which..is still...doxxing. If you are starting with an anonymous username on one forum to collate details with accounts on other websites where the user reused the same handle, and cross-referencing that with biographical details on their FB page, you are doxxing someone. It doesn't suddenly stop being doxxing if he makes it easy for you. It doesn't really even stop being doxxing if he linked to his FB with an account on one of his other sites where he reused his name. Unless he said, on the reddit account he used to share the gif, "High, I'm skunkcunt42, also known as John Taylor, here's my FaceBook page", then doxxing is occurring. That is what it means.

It doesn't cease to be doxxing because he made himself an easy target for it, anymore than robbery stops being robbery if you make yourself an easy target for it.
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>>61226037
Thank CNN for taking care of his education after his shitty parents failed then.

>>61226042
>CNN's headline begins with words to the effect of
Because "How our journalist was tired of jerking off and doxed a stupid kid" doesn't sound that catchy. I don't get it, do you trust them and take them serious or see them as the entertainment source they are?
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>>61226044
yeah like having disallowed opinions
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>>61226071
You need to be 18 to post here, kiddo.
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>>61226048
>Usual doxxing strats. It's remarkably easy to link people's accounts to their real names- you google their account names, their profile details, and even some posts they make to see if it matches facebook posts.
>>61226056
I just want to point out he literally used the same username for everything, including twitter.

I doubt they needed an IP. you can narrow down a persons identity by finding out their state and age, then it's just a process of whittling down the possible candidates (probably contacting each person and they did say he immediately confessed to his identity).
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HAHAHAHAH

im saying it, ITS FUCKING STAGED

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/882430148016037888
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>>61226074
>alt right
>cuck
>frog poster
Irony is lost on you, m8
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>>61226085
Time to shut down CNN.
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>>61225439
>>61225447
wait a minute something is not quite right here
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>>61226089
>y-you're underaged!
Please. Regardless this thread is getting way too political for my taste anyway. Please do stop calling the kettle black though.
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>>61225264
>strawman
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>>61226006
I live in the world of reality. Despite your condemnation, CNN went and did it anyway. Because it was within their power. So what if you don't like it? How's that going to help the kid?

Nobody cares about after-the-fact judgements. Kid's already been silenced. The only question is: are you going to make the same mistake? Are you going to allow others to obtain leverage on you and use it to turn your screws?

>>61226042
So?
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>>61226065
You thought I was kidding? What would the point of that be?
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>>61226079
damn so he deleted his account
what a faget, I needed to contact him
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>>61225233
>Advertisers buy your personal information
>Literally to advertise things you'd probably want
>Also implying nobody knows about adblock

Do you really care if they know where you live or what you look at online? so long as they don't control it, who cares if they sell it?
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the ___ cries out in pain as he strikes you
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>>61225977
(((ISIS))), founded by CIA and (((Mossad))) is ther friends.
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>>61226097
>Triggered 15 year old alt-right cuck detected

Can't wait for summer to be over and for you kids to go back to school again.
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>>61226108
I didn't think NBC was that fucking stupid.

I guess they showed me.
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>>61226084
Yes if you want to be very, very anal about it, it'd be doxxing but if you throw all the information out and it takes few mins to find it, it's just not what people generally understand under doxxing.

>robbery stops being robbery if you make yourself an easy target for it.
If you run around with a ROB ME shield, scream at people and beg them to rob you, then yell ROB ME HARDER while they are robbing you, is it truly a robbery? It's like offering free hugs and being offended that someone hugged you after you asked them to.
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>>61225690
>>61225972
>>61225998
>>61226084
Not like doxxing is illegal. McVeigh would have been arrested for handing out FBI agent info.
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>>61226085
Yes comrade, the enemies of CNN must be reeducated
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>>61225977
ISIS recruitment on twitter is a real problem and twitter does nothing about it
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>>61224902
>implying att doesnt sell your data for money
Hell with Ajit "poo in loo" Pai as FCC chair, he made it perfectly legal to do so earlier this year.
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>>61226087
Err, we know Trump supporters are stupid but not "piece of cardboard" stupid. No one is getting hurt there.
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>>61226126
That's just the tip of the iceburg. I'm not one who sucked either candidate's dick during the election (I wanted and still want Rand Paul), but the outright, unashamed bias was unbelievable.
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>>61226034
>>61226061
I am all for free speech, but there are social consequences to your actions. If you use your anonymity to post bigoted shit, and leave enough of a trail to have your identity exposed, you deserve. Considering this week Trumptards like this guy had been treating CNN like shit all week with suspiciously-edited, secretly-recorded videos in an attempt to "expose" them, CNN showed a large amount of mercy to this guy.
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Why don't we all just dox all right wing people? who cares. these /pol/ tards have gotta pay anyway. CNN is in the right here.
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>>61226132
Blackmail however is illegal
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>>61226110
Because if advertisers pay the bills they control what you are allowed to see.
so for example, if the advertiser is monsanto, they control if you're allowed to even see news on how they're patenting corn again or flooding rivers with poisons again or suing farmers for nothing again.
You are not getting information that is useful to you. You are getting information that is useful to the advertisers.
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>>61226146
There's nothing wrong with exposing someone's identity in the name of actual journalism. There's something VERY wrong with threatening to expose someone's identity if they don't do what you demand.
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>>61226110
>so long as they don't control it, who cares if they sell it?

Holy fuck someone please kill these cucks before they ruin the Internet. It's absolutely crazy how the two extremes of the political spectrum are mirrors of each other, I thought crazy SJW libs were mad, your kind is as bad if not worse. Trump could increase NSA surveillance and you cucks would most likely cheer him for it, this type of cult of personality needs to end.
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>>61226138
Because there is nothing you can do against people creating new accounts, whether it's a guy who spams about slapping women or an ISIS recruiter. The latter tend to have a better IT on their side too.
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>>61226138
Gee, I wonder why?
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>>61226143
so begins another fruitless back-and-forth where one side feigns ignorance

you cunts are frequently violent without provocation -- does "punch nazis" (nazis being anyone you disagree with, especially trump supporters) not ring a bell?
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>>61226146
Leave your shilling on /pol/, loser
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>>61226138
ISIS is an ally of CNN because they also don't support trump.
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>>61226158
>crazy SJW
back to /pol/. Why is /pol/ raiding?
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>>61224878
nope, that's where you are wrong kiddo. By folding so completely it ruins CNN and makes them a fake news bully. There is no high ground now for this organization.
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>>61226162
>picture of a skinhead lying around with context
What a great point!
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>>61226146
HELLO CNN.
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>>61226176
*feigns ignorance*
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>>61224567
Stop making /pol/ look bad by making threads like these faggot, get back over here.
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Isn't it really easy to protect yourself from doxxes like this?

>>61226176
Ebil white man. He probably deserved it, probably didn't like gommunism.
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>>61226157
Well, they could've just expose him without giving him a chance to reconsider his idiocy. Sounds a lot harsher.
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>>61226167
Shut the fuck up, both SJWs and the pol/extreme right are as bad as each other. The fact that these two sides are so appealing to the average uneducated imbecile really is dreadful, considering how dumb the average American is.
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>>61226126
The link in that image takes you here: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/fact-check-2016-tall-tales-trail-n645586?cid=sm_tw

See how long it takes you to find Clinton getting fact checked. The bias last year was unreal.
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>>61226176
the video shows that it is a regular bald guy on a motorcycle trying to slowly weave through the crowd blocking the road, that was his "provocation"
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>>61226189
>Stop making /pol/ look bad
Yeah, about that.
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>>61225993
>>61226051
Reminder that Reddit has the power to edit your posts silently.
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>>61226197
One is blackmail. One isn't.
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>>61226176
You mean the skinhead who was there to hear a faggot with a nigger bf speak?
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>>61226199
Shut up. This is a step in the right direction. We need to hold all right wing trash accountable. CNN is right. CNN is right. x10
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>>61226214
So does any site, idiot.
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>>61226214
Of course they do, the argument is that they've done it in the past for as little as spite
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>>61226138
>>61225977
For some reason /pol/ would complain about this too, even after getting happy for every HAPPENING.
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>>61226205
That's an image.
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>>61226122
Please stop posting this white supremacist symbol, thank you
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>>61226199
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>>61226176
You're not actually allowed to beat up people for having shaved heads, and certainly not allowed to continue beating them with blunt implements when they're unconscious on the floor.
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>>61226157
They aren't demanding that he do something. They are demanding that he NOT do something, ie not post bigoted shit online under the username he used (they have no way of knowing who he is if he posts under a different pseudonym). This is actually very reasonable. Let's put it this way: if you were getting harassed by someone online and you happened to find out their identity, you wouldn't say "leave me the fuck alone or I'll expose you."? Of course you would, or you would just expose them (which is the meaner of the two actions).
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>>61226225
>the day the left defended a corporation abusing its economic power just to scare a right-wing 15-yo kid while still end up making a massive PR shitshow by getting accused of blackmail
????????
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>>61225696
>Trolling is bullying
>Land of the free
It's better to live in a cell with free food.
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>>61226259
fucking mental, you're diseased
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>>61226249
Disgusting.

>>61226255
All the image shows that he's lying around surrounded by not very friendly looking people, and looking like part of a hateful group himself. There is no indication for who started what and what happened.
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Its insane how right this quote always is
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>>61226259
>they are demanding that he not say something
>this is perfectly fine
If he was saying fire in a crowded theatre I'd understand, but he's posting a gif online.
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>>61226259
Actually, they demanded that he publicly apologize. That is the demand to do something. But even assuming you are correct, that's a shit argument. That's like saying that it isn't blackmail when the mob kidnaps a cop's family, and says that they just want him to NOT respond to a crime scene, and his family lives. It's still blackmail.
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>/g/ has an entire >300-post thread about this shit without even mentioning the faggot hackers behind this horseshit

K-File

>>>/pol/132432767
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>>61226275
Keep moving the goalpost while pretending to be ignorant.
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>>61224878
if he has documented proof of that CNN put him up to it, he can still go to a lawyer and said the statement was made under duress.
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>>61226261
>>>/pol/
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>>61226249
>Huh? You don't want to bend over and let refugees in? FUCKING RACIST
>Huh? You don't hate other races and want all refugees out? FUCKING KEK

Really two sides of the same coin. Historically, the extremes of the political spectrum were always the most appealing to the uneducated, low-IQ average retard, this tradition hasn't stopped. Dumbfucks still go to Tumblr/Reddit to talk about extreme affirmative action, and dumbfucks still go to pol/t_d to scream "FUK JOOZ AND ISLAM".

Grow up already.
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>>61226300
I literally have never even once posted on /pol/.
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>>61226296
MacOS masterrace.
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>>61226306
What if I don't hate other races, but still want limited and careful immigration, mostly from westernized societies (including Japan, South Korea, and China)? Where do I fall then?
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If you are a wh*te male you are NOT allowed to comment on this
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>>61226297
What goalposts? Nigga, you posted a fucking image that doesn't provide shit.
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I can't believe you people are defending the racist kid. It's good were making an example out of him. Go cnn!
>>61226314
keep telling yourself that trump lover.
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>>61226275
>All the image shows that he's lying around surrounded by not very friendly looking people, and looking like part of a hateful group himself. There is no indication for who started what and what happened.
lol you don't remember?
This is the tolerant Berkely protesters beating up a guy who was walking with pro-Trump supporters.
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>>61226324
>not wh*Te

nice LARP
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>>61226321
So why do you not want to offer the people of "other" races a better living standard? Do you value the one of "your" more?
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>>61226338
They also punched a female bystander because she was wearing a red cap, not even a Trump one
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>>61226259
Demanding someone to not do something while threatening to publicly defame him is blackmail

>if you were getting harassed by someone online and you happened to find out their identity, you wouldn't say "leave me the fuck alone or I'll expose you."? Of course you would, or you would just expose them
This is way smaller scale. You have like 10 people following your twitter for your exposing while millions of people read CNN
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>>61226336
>trump lover
I'm a leftie, I just accused CNN of abusing its economic power (something a rightist would never do, they believe corporations are people too). I'm just more anti-corporations than I'm anti-Trump.
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"Hey kid I see you made uerself a meme over ere... yeah yeah... pretty funny, pretty funny."
"Yeah, BIG funny Larry. Big. Funny."
"Only we... we don't think it's so funny."
"No not funny."
"So... I'll tell you what, you do what I say... and maybe you get to wakeup with at least one of your kneecaps in the morning."

Jokes aside this 1984 brave new world shit had gotten too real and someone needs to be made an example of. This in unacceptable.
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>>61226338
Remember what, I am not an Amerifat.

>This is the tolerant Berkely protesters beating up a guy who was walking with pro-Trump supporters.
That's not that the image shows. Feel free to find a vid showing what you claim it supposed to show.
Also what's your point either way? Obviously some anti Trump protestors are violent, some people always are.
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>>61226351
Name a race that doesn't have Western Civilization at all. Then I'll accept your label of racist.

if you're asking me if I think that Western Civilization is the best, and those that have rejected it live in a worse culture, then that is absolutely true. But I'm not aware of a single race that is completely absent from Western Civ.
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>>61225450
thats a dog
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>>61226306

>Not wanting unvetted, unskilled, tax mooching, mostly military aged males refugees who likely believe in sharia and the hadith is because you're just raycis

Ok, """"centirst intellectual""""""
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>>61226351
Blacks have South Africa
Muslims have Turkey
Jews have Israel.
Hispanics have Chile
Asians have a plethora of countries.

How is that racist?
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>>61226384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BZvhYkB4xo

I just doctored up this footage for you
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>>61224625
See >>61225855 and >>61225924
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>>61226363
I'm itching for an actual civil war.
This democracy bullshit has gone on enough, and ready to get authoritarians in power.

>>61226384
You're a special kind of dull.
You want context? I gave it to you.
It went viral earlier this year. If you missed it, you really need to get out of your basement.
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>>61226412
>and
*I'm
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>>61226306
t_d doesn't believe the jew meme actually. We're having a hard time getting them to assimilate.
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>>61226405
If it weren't for white people we would be super advanced. Literally have done nothing for our society but produce nazis and incest.
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>>61225835
I'm in
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>>61224757
Yeah if I make memes online that should warrant illegal actions against me
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>>61226432
Cool. That means that no other races should want to come here, which means that restricting immigration won't bother you at all.
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>>61226288
He did not just post a gif. If that's all he had done CNN would be in the wrong here. He had anti-semitic / bigoted stuff through out his post history.
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>>61226321
How do you deal with the situation?

>I don't want immigrants because the financial drain on the system is too large and there's a temporary ongoing security risk

or

>I don't want immigrants BECAUSE THEY'RE MUSLIMS AND/OR BROWN AND/OR GONNA STEAL MY WOMEN TO PUSH FOR WHITE GENOCIDE

That's where the difference lies. You can bring up legitimate points against immigration (finance and security), which makes you a normal human being, or you could do it out of xenophobia and hatred for different races/culture, which makes you a racist.

Not too hard to decide man, but most /pol/lacks or r/t_d redditers go with option 2.
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>>61226450
Still illegal to blackmail him
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>>61226450
There is nothing you can say that will paint this picture in a way that will justify blackmail.
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>>61226432
Weird how they're all immigrating to Europe and the US.
Why would they go to where the oppression is highest?
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>>61224999
this, most likely
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>>61226448
HAHAHA no. I'm honestly glad white people are going to be gone within 40 years and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.. Imshallah.

fucking dumb redditor got himself doxxed.
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>>61225726
Funny how you change your mind when you're blackmailed
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>>61226453
I never claimed to be either of those things. I can contribute to a thread about obvious media bias and blackmail without being a diehard supporter of any politician.
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>>61226387
Bits of Western Civilization doesn't guarantee you the freedom, peace and opportunities like being in a Western country does. Besides, it's not like the West got nothing to do with the situation, why the people are fleeing their countries.

>>61226405
And whites got Europe, it didn't stop them having centuries of wars and killing each other. Having a similar skin shade doesn't guarantee that you'll get along with the people. Try living as a faggot in a non Western country.
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>>61226384
Where'd you go, I wanted more examples of mental gymnastics
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>>61226471
>Try living as a faggot in a non-Western country.
Well, Jews, trans, and gays are bailing out of Europe and going to east asia, the US, Canada, and (in the case of Jews) Israel, due to the mass import of people FROM those non-Western countries coming to Europe and fucking shit up, while the State actively covers it up, and, when caught, hands out pamphlets and wristbands instead of deportations.
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>>61226294
I could have phrased my argument better, but my point here is that they aren't coercing him to do something harmful to himself or to other people. They are coercing him to not be a dick on the Internet. And, again, the threat is empty because he can just use a different pseudonym.
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>>61226403
>lol fuk izlam xD
>lol fuk refugeez xD
>look guize, i am so enlightened! this is the counterculture boize!

The sad thing here is that you're fighting cancer with cancer. It's sad, really, when sub-100 IQ people like you always either go for a) ACCEPT ALL REFUGEES NO BORDERS OR VETTING or b) ACCEPT 0 REFUGEES WE DON'T CARE FUCK HUMAN LIVES

No middle-ground? No "Look, we will help as many refugees as our thorough screening-process can handle because it's the humane thing to do, but not everyone will pass"? Jesus Christ, I seriously wonder how people on the extremes on the spectrum think, why are your sides so appealing to the average dumbfuck and why are so many going over? Is asking basic cautiousness and compassion too much nowadays?
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>>61226450
>anti-semitic / bigoted stuff

what does "stuff" mean? facts?
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>>61226495
No. They are coercing him to publicly apologize. That's blackmail.
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>>61226495
"Apologize now or we'll smear your name publicly"

Reasonable
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>>61226410
>some faggots rush into the crowd on bikes
>some kids screaming
>some faggot lying around, gets hit once by another faggot
That's tons of angry and scared people doing things what angry and scared people do. The vid doesn't provide any information about who the guy on the floor is, what he did before and so on.

>>61226412
>I gave it to you.
From your own POV without any proof.

>It went viral earlier this year. If you missed it, you really need to get out of your basement.
It's a pain to keep up with all the happenings in 3rd world countries.
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>>61226500
C.) help them where they are
costs less and you help more with the money
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>>61226058
Still the safest country in Latin America when compared to every other drug riddled shithole in the region, fambo.
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>>61226522
>3rd world countries.
Took you 12 minutes to write that?
o i am laffin
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>>61226522
Thanks, I was waiting for this
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>>61226492
Yeah, no. Unless you have data about a huge amounts of Jews and faggots leaving of course.
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>>61226495
>"The mob isn't coercing him to do something harmful to other people. They are coercing him to not testify against a mob member on trail. The threat is empty because they didn't actually threaten violence against him or his family. Just having a 7'6 brick shithouse come and discuss what he would like to see happen."
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>>61226529
How about we not help them at all and let them sort there own messes out. They'll prevail if strong.
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>>6122636
It may be blackmail, depending on how you define it, but there is nothing illegal about it. I don't see it as unethical either. CNN gave him a chance here.
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>>61226539
Sorry, you've been monitoring this thread doing nothing else but waiting for my reply. I'll try not making you wait as long next time.
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>>61226558
It's coercion.
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>>61226558
>It may be blackmail
>but there is nothing illegal about it

Blackmail by definition is illegal you moron
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>>61226084
>It doesn't cease to be doxxing because he made himself an easy target for it, anymore than robbery stops being robbery if you make yourself an easy target for it.
>Points gun at cashier and grab cash like a drive-by
This isn't Payday 2, anon.
Crime is still a crime. You commit to it, expect getting thrown into jail.
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>>61226501
That image doesn't even have sources. Stop it.
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>>61226559
>What is 4chanX
You're on /g/ mate.
Lrn 2 extension.
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>>61224604

except using multiple layers literally makes you less secure
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>>61226529
>costs less
Ahahahahaha. Jesus. Ahahaha.
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>>61226529
>Helps them where they are

Lol, you really have no idea what's going on in Syria, do you? Hint: It's a fucking proxy war and nobody is backing down. Both the US/Saudi Arabia and Syria/Russia want to win and will not settle down for one single second to help civilians. The war will never end until either the US or Russia decide to give up.

Look at the progress Assad has made so far, he's winning the war. Near the end right? No more refugee crisis right? Nope, Spicer warns of possible US attack on Assad and that will amplify the refugee crisis. Sorry but to the American government, geopolitics > the needs of domestic racists. I'm glad you want peace though, that's a good thing at the very least, but unrealistic.
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>>61226550
http://www.newsweek.com/2014/08/08/exodus-why-europes-jews-are-fleeing-once-again-261854.html

https://www.datalounge.com/thread/16200649-gay-asylum-seekers-face-threat-from-fellow-refugees-in-europe

It's almost like the majority that hated and oppressed those minorities didn't leave their close-mindedness behind when they crossed into Europe.
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>>61226558
Blackmail is illegal. You know that, right?
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>>61226500

what kind of buttfuck stupid is this? "refugees" are historically people the CIA has bought out in exchange for betraying their country. as payment for helping us knock over one more brown-skinned nation, they get to come to the land of milk and honey.

in more recent times, bunches of mercenaries hired by NATO and their gulf allies.
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>>61226581
>Lol, you really have no idea what's going on in Syria, do you?
Let them all die.
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>>61226584
Watch him as he goes
>but muh proofs
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>>61226106
It did serve to remind us to strengthen out your privacy fort.
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>>61226501
That meme is a part of anti-semitic conspiracy theories pushed on places like /pol/ and stormfront.

I know /pol/ is full of bigots. I hope not you too, /g/.
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>>61226598
Yeah, usually those CIA agents would win and get a ticket to loving USA, but that's not the case with Syria. American-backed rebels are getting blown the fuck out by Russia & Syrian Arab Army.

You should just forget about Syria, it's lost, can't beat Russia here.

>>61226599
Guess I spoke too soon. You say this, you don't want refugees, but at the same time you don't want to lose the proxy war and have Russia humiliate the US in the Middle East.

I'm seeing many Americans hesitating between either wanting the war to stop and accepted defeat, allowing the refugee crisis to end, and wanting to win the war to continue further continuing the refugee crisis. Feeling of patriotism and xenophobia going at odds huh?
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>>61226624
>pointing out someone's beliefs is anti-antisemitism

You tried
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>>61226459
>>61226458
Demanding that someone not engage in dickish behavior or you will expose them is not illegal, regardless of whether or not it fits the definition of blackmail.
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>>61226226
Yeah? Let's see a mod edit this post right now.
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>>61226654
"apologize or we'll smear you publicly"
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THIS IS FUGGIN HEBBENING

HABBENING CON LEVEL 5

I REPEAT HABBENING CON LEVEL 5
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>>61226654
>http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Blackmail
>The crime involving a threat for purposes of compelling a person to do an act against his or her will, OR for purposes of taking the person's money or property.
Emphasis on the OR is mine. It fits the legal definition of blackmail, which, legally, is a crime.
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>>61226647
>you don't want refugees, but at the same time you don't want to lose the proxy war
No, I don't give a fuck what happens in the middle east so long as it stays there.
Supporting almost any foreign intervention is stupid. I would like to see more isolationist policies.
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>>61226110
>Do you really care if they know where you live or what you look at online? so long as they don't control it, who cares if they sell it?
>target lonely bachelor
>search through Google related to him
>all his personal info in one basket
>daily lookout of his schedule
>easy money by break-in to his house
>Bachelor calls police and report stolen items
>Police says, "hurr, it's not a crime, you are an easy target" and hangs phone
Really makes you wonder why are we paying taxes.
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>>61226511
>>61226512
Saying "Apologize or I will reveal bad shit you did" is not illegal. That is also not what they're doing. Read the OP again. He already apologized. CNN is saying that if he engages in this behavior again they might reveal his identity.
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>>61226676
>Top trending now
#CNNBLACKMAIL
>Top trending 1 hour ago
#CNNBLACKMAIL
>Top trending 2 hours ago
#CNNBLACKMAL

OYY VEY SHUT IT DOWN!

IT MUST BE SHUT DOWN!
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>>61226686
It literally is you idiot
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>>61226576
>You're on /g/ mate.
Easy to forget.

>>61226584
>datalounge
Despite the name, it's an opinion piece.

>newsweek
Another opinion piece, which you should've read beyond the title.

>but anti-Semitism is spiking across Europe, fuelled by the war in Gaza.
Totally relevant to refugees.

>In Berlin a crowd of anti-Israel protesters had to be prevented from attacking a synagogue.
Protesters =/= rapefugees.

>76% said that anti-Semitism had worsened over the past five years in their home countries, with the most marked deteriorations in France, Hungary and Belgium.
All countries where far right parties were on the rise or ended in power.

>Britain had 8%, the Netherlands 5% and Sweden was the lowest at 4%. In Eastern Europe Poland had 45% and Hungary 41%
The countries with tons of mudslimes got lowest while MUHNOREFUGEES Poland and Hungary got almost 50%.

Almost like it's connected to the far right cucks and not refugees.
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>>61226686
See: >>61226678
It's a crime.
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>>61226166
Trump is helping ISIS though.
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>>61226688
Twitter thought police muse be sleeping, they normally purge anything contrary to their cause off trending
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>>61226551
Threats can be non-verbal.
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>>61226603
I know right, who the fuck needs proofs in 2017.
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>>61226584
>>61226603
topkek called it

>>61226693
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>>61226693
At what point does the author in either piece insert their opinion? Where is the "I think," "I believe," or something similar, outside of direct quotations. Its like you don't know what an opinion piece is.
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>>61226703
That's the point.
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>>61226700
>If you kill them they win
Trudeau tacticians... the finest.
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>>61226565
>>61226593
No, blackmail is not necessarily illegal, especially when money / property is not involved. This is the federal statute on blackmail, 18 U.S.C. § 873:

>"Whoever, under a threat of informing, or as a consideration for not informing, against any violation of any law of the United States, demands or receives any money or other valuable thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."
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>>61226715
By ignoring to quote actual numbers and statistics. Interviews with couple people are irrelevant for such a big topic.

If you want to find whether the new iPhone sucks, you get data about customer satisfaction and the likes, you don't quote people who said it's good/it's bad.
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>>61226574
A lot of these are obvious or well known yids. Look up any of the rest and you'll find that they are of the tribe as well. Nice try schlomo.
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>>61226727
Israel and US likes to bomb SAA too so I don't see how it's not helping ISIS.
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>>61226693
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3399791/Immigration-Israel-western-European-Jews-hits-time-high-following-rise-anti-Semitic-attacks.html

Yes, surely these Jews were living amongst a majority of Anti-semites for decades, but now are showing their true colors against their Jewish neighbors because...?
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>>61226732
How does one collect data about customer satisfaction? I imagine it would involve asking customers whether they think it was good or bad.
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>>61226693
It always makes me smile when someone uses the term "cuck" or "snowflake" against the ones who brought these words into everyday lexicon, as if that would demostrate that he's into somekind of relevant counter-memeing
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>>61226678
The "act" that someone is being demanded of has to be illegal or aiding an illegal act for it to constitute blackmail.
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>>61226744
>Daily Hail
Come on.

>now are showing their true colors against their Jewish neighbors because...?
Because it's acceptable to openly hate on minorities again.

>>61226754
In times of all the data hoarding, it can be done simply by analysing how/how often they are using it and whether they bought the next one, etc, etc

>it would involve asking customers whether they think it was good or bad.
That works too. At some point you'll get a big enough dataset to be able to make some sense out of it.

>>61226757
Alt-right cucks brought cuckoldry into the lexicon? Fascinating.
Besides that's rich for people who stole red-blue pill terminology from two gay trannies.
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He's just some edgy /pol/ poster.
https://imgur.com/a/hfUAo
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>>61226799
>Because it's acceptable to openly hate on minorities again.
Since when? They are literally throwing people in jail for facebook posts in Europe. In what way does that lead anyone to believe that it is acceptable?
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>>61225476
>Big government
The problem isn't the size of government, it's who government is loyal to.
The push towards "smaller government" - and remember, it was Bill Clinton, a democrat, who declared "the era of big government is over" - hasn't actually shrunk government at all. What happens under "small government" is that ways that government is linked to the voters are severed, leaving it more reliant on corporate power to get anything done.

This will always be how the push for smaller government is subverted. When government actually takes an interventionist stance - as it did from WW2 to about 1975 - then it finds itself as a balancing actor between the individual and corporations, trying to ensure a balance that works for everyone. Since Carter and the push for deregulation (at least for the big players.), the government has essentially found itself in the role of defending it's big backers - no longer the public, but corporate sponsors. This is in the self interest of most major parties too, since political engagement has been in freefall since the 1990s. (Possibly abated slightly by Trump, Sanders, Brexit, Corbyn, etc. As the band Asia put it: Only time will tell.)
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>>61226799
>if I keep saying "cucks" I will teach them fascists!
>when Matrix came out both brothers were trannies

wew ;)
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>>61226814
>"what fires 200 shots and only hits the pavement? a nigger"
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>>61226814
How anyone can read that and think CNN is in the wrong here is baffling.
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>>61226624
>bigots

dude. they're the ones who are bigots, and they brag about it. sheesh.

i mean really, c'mon

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19
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>>61226846
>Blackmail is ok so long as it's done to people who don't share my beliefs.
I wasn't aware so many puritans were on /g/.
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>>61226624
>pls guys why won't you all share my exact same views
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>>61226846
>How anyone can read that and think CNN is in the wrong here is baffling.

CNN has been driving the war propaganda that stirred up the islamic hate in the first place
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>you will never shitpost so hard a multi billion dollar company demands an apology
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>>61226500
>lol Izlam culd totally aligned with western values guize
>lol yur jus raycis if you don't want people who belief in a law where you can be depreciated for criticizing an archaic book or that muzlim malez culd frely fuk any grl not wearing a hijab
>Us centrist intellectuals totlly estbliesh a midl grund with such laws, just ignore all the bombings, mass shootings, and vehicle assaults

It must be bliss for you to be so naive and soup drowningly retarded to believe these people or their ideology gives two fucks about your pathetic infidel satanic life, maybe you're self loathing and value their lives more than yours or your families.

But if you didn't have cum in your eyes you would have seen the "unvetted" portion of my post or the entire post for that matter that describes who the grand majority of the refugees have been (pic related) ,

Your substandard strawman that it's solely because "LE RAYCIS" is bullshit and you're neanderthal knob if you unrionically believe that

Do you know how many Japan has accepted with their strict immigration and screening policies? 27 we should follow their lead and countries that is more apt with their culture (such as the surrounding Arabian nations ) should be the ones accepting them before (((coincidentally)))) cascading them throughout Western states.
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>>61226826
Did you miss the president of the third largest economy getting in after calling brown people rapists and tried to ban other brown people, while also talking on TV about monitoring brown people?

The rise of "everybody not like us should gtfo" parties with the "not like us" bit getting specified by the members? AfD had couple holocaust deniers in their ranks, UKIP had some crazy bitch hating on niggers, literal fascist in France, etc, etc.

Who gives a shit about FB when politicians are free to do that shit. Again, your own article pointed out countries like Hungary and Poland that got centuries of antisemitism and no Muslims just now also parties who support hating on minorities officially.
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>>61226846
> being on the wrong end of a gun is alright if the person at the other end thinks you're a racist
Stop being such a nigger, nigger.
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>>61226467
You should start by stopping your govt to stone more women to death.
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>>61226852
Every Jew has had this conversation with friends before. It is very different when people say it from an ignorant, hateful place. I won't even get into it, but there's a history behind why Jews are prominent in Hollywood and it has nothing to do with these anti-semitic conspiracies.


>>61226856
There is a difference between "not sharing my beliefs" and "being a piece of shit."
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>>61226891
LITERALLY HITLER
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>>61226888
No religion is compatible with western values, hence we got secularism, faggot.

>Arabian nations
The same who fuel the war and are supplied by us? Look how Maybot ignores reports about Saudis supporting terrorism and bends backwards to suck them off for dem weapon deals. Then the next country gets bombed with Western weapons. GG Yemen.
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>>61226656
>4chan
>mods
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>>61226909
>nepotism is conspiracy

are you jewish yourself anon?
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>>61226915
At least Adolf was a decent narrator. The orange monkey can't form two sentences.
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>>61226522
>It's a pain to keep up with all the happenings in 3rd world countries
I feel your pain. Being a wage cuck hurts especially if relying only on local news to feed into social conversations.
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>>61226874
Okay, go on. Expand on that knowledge and think about who is the POTUS now.
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>>61226891
>Did you miss the president of the third largest economy getting in after calling brown people rapists and tried to ban other brown people, while also talking on TV about monitoring brown people?
Since you want data driven sources when I make claims, please provide your own. Specifically one that qualifies that Trump was elected because of racism.

I'm not interested in you qualifying a movement by its worst members. Otherwise, we would have to say that the left is made up of crazy communist antifa (which is considered a domestic terrorist organization in some states; New Jersey is one example).

>Who cares about FB
Just the tip of the iceburg. It's just the easiest to document the suppression of free speech.
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>>61226939
>wage cuck
>on /g/
How?
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>>61226932
heh...what can I say...BLUMPF BTFO!!!
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>>61226909
>"Laws should not apply to people I think are a piece of shit."
K.
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>>61226954
Which law was broken? Show me the statute.
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>>61226909
Jews culturally feel superior to everyone else. They are the chosen people, so they hire their own, promote their own, and destroy others for their gain. There is no global conspiracy, just a tribe that wants to fuck everyone else for their gain, and it is ingrained into their very being.

Fucking kikes.
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>>61224999
>Trying to derail this hard
Nice job, supporting corporations is supporting jews.
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new thread when
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>>61226952
By living in a 3rd world country.
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>>61226960
http://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-135-60.html
9, 5 and 1 desu
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>>61226909
what conspiracy are you talking about, anon?

and is it different being a bigot when you just keep it to yourselves and hidden from those who really might ought to know how your feelings might affect them?

is it OK to be a piece of shit when it's your secret?
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>>61226960
18 U.S. Code § 875
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/875
>(d) Whoever, with intent to extort from any person, firm, association, or corporation, any money or other thing of value, transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing ANY THREAT TO INJURE THE PROPERTY OR REPUTATION of the addressee or of another or the reputation of a deceased person or any threat to accuse the addressee or any other person of a crime, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

Emphasis is mine.
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>>61226922

>The same who fuel the war and are supplied by us?

Well in that case they should still away from Western Nations too.

And one culture still practices Sharia Law, executes fags from roofs, punishes people to death for minor to non existent offenses, where the majority of its adherents support such barbarism, there's no middle ground there nigger
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>>61226949
>Specifically one that qualifies that Trump was elected because of racism.
There are definitely more factors and doubt racism was the biggest one. The fact that he had any chance after his statements shows that we live in different times. As does the rise of all the "different people gtfo" parties.

Surely things Trump said about Mexicans, proposing to monitor Muslims and attempted to ban countries with Muslim majorities are common knowledge by now, though if you really insist I can grab some quotes.

>qualifying a movement by its worst members
In politics, the members of a party are the leaders of a movement, so it's less comparing them to random antifa kids but with other leaders, like good ol' Joseph if you want socialism. Besides, it seems reasonable to wonder why certain politicians get attracted to a certain movement.

>It's just the easiest to document the suppression of free speech.
Companies are irrelevant towards free speech discussions. They don't have to offer anyone a platform. FB is perfectly in the right to ban you if they dislike your face.
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>>61226966
>Jews culturally feel superior to everyone else.
There are people like that in every culture. They do not reflect everyone. Jews in the United States might be the most inclusive, progressive people on the planet.
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>>61227030
>"Sources only need to be provided for your claim. My claims can be baseless."
K.
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>>61227030
Nobody is talking about FB bans. Governments are prosecuting people because of their FB posts. Big difference.
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>>61226891
>calling brown people rapists

All brown people are illegal immigrants?

>tried to ban other brown people

You mean where the majority of brown nations and people weren't effected?

>while also talking on TV about monitoring brown people?

Which have been in place and enforced from the Bush to the Obama administration?
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>>61227017
You forgot:

>with intent to extort from any person, firm, association, or corporation, any money or other thing of value

Simply threatening to ruin someone's reputation is not a crime.
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>>61227023
>the majority of its adherents support such barbarism
People usually support whatever is considered normal in their surroundings. Just like we didn't have much choice in the past, neither have brown people who live in similar regimes now. Regimes who are helped to stay alive by our cash or interventions.

>>61227036
Meh, Jew here and most of the Jews I know are pretty extreme elitists with muh chooses race shit. Most Jews in Murica aren't really religious, the religious ones are pure cancer, on par with people that are considered extremists.
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>>61227030
>There are definitely more factors and doubt racism was the biggest one.
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>>61227057
Not him, but a public apology is a thing of value. Just because you can't easily put a price on it (much like a unique item) does not mean that it is worthless.

Also, I'm not a legal scholar who has memorized the legal code, but this makes the case pretty clear: >>61226678
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>>61227057
> look, I'm not going to drag you through shit but do what I want unless you want that to happen
So CNN is not blackmailing, they're just at the level of degenerate scumbag feminists that threaten people with the possibility of losing their livelihood and ruin their lives?
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>>61227036
>There are people like that in every culture
There's a difference with jews. It is embedded into their culture via their religion, which gives it legitimacy among the vast majority of their people. Even among the atheist jews.

I once had a job doing recording for workshops on a college campus. I did a jewish one once and I was surprised at the existence of these atheist jews. I didn't understand how that works, until I realized that their culture of superiority is so ingrained in them, that even when they do not believe in their god, it still stays with them. I also learned that they push the English departments to include more holocaust literature into their readings, despite the fact that they have an elective class for it already.
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>>61227050
>All brown people are illegal immigrants?
Most illegal immigrants are rather brown. And most aren't rapists.

>You mean where the majority of brown nations and people weren't effected?
While tons of others were. Hitler didn't exactly genocide niggers either, does it mean his ideology didn't have a found view of them and sponsor that view in the general population?

>Which have been in place and enforced from the Bush to the Obama administration?
They went for terror suspects, usually brown and usually without proofs but they didn't call for monitoring all Muslims.

>>61227064
You don't have anything to back up the opposite either. Going by general attitudes towards the topic, there are simply not enough racists in Murica to make it work.
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>>61227059
Except every other culture has moved beyond the dark ages.
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>>61227089
> a public apology is a thing of value
No judge is going to buy that. And, again, he already apologized.
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>>61225316
good goy
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>>61227109
At some things.
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>>61227116
>No judge is going to buy that.
Burden of proof is on you.
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>>61225900
Kikes like yourself must hang
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>>61227106
>Proving a negative

Please tell me this is bait
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>>61227130
https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-it-blackmail-or-extortion-if-i-asked-someone-to-722745.html
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>>61227116
A literal lawmaker is claiming that a line was crossed.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Scotttaylorva/status/882433106367610880
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>>61227149
Why a negative, in the end the claim would be "Cheeto man won thanks to being a racist"
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>546 posts
What's going on in this thread?
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>>61227121
Such as not stoning people to death for watching porn and lashing women for not wearing a hijab when it's 100 degrees outside
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>>61227176
/g/ technology

>>61227190
What about providing your citizens with healthcare and means to stay alive without a job? Iran does it quite well.
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>>61227162
A rep who was a former soldier, not a lawyer.

Here are actual lawyers:

https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-it-blackmail-or-extortion-if-i-asked-someone-to-722745.html
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>>61227106
>Most illegal immigrants are rather brown.
And all ravens are crows. That doesn't mean all crows are ravens. Just because most/all illegal immigrants are "brown people", doesn't mean that all "brown people" are illegal immigrants.
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>>61227203
Certainly not but if you push open hatred against a mostly brown group where you need a look at the ID to decide whether it's cool to hate on them or not, it's given that people from another group that only share visual similarities will get thrown under the bus too.
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>>61227201
Looking at that thread, it looks like that it isn't prosecutable. That doesn't make it not illegal. For example, it is illegal to go whaling in Kansas. That said, I bet you could scream from a boat all day long that you were whaling without being charged. It's also illegal to have puppetry shows from your window in New York City, with a possible consequence of 30 days imprisonment. It's a law, but good luck finding it being enforced.
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>>61227223
I was unaware that enforcing existing laws meant you were racist, even if it means a single race makes up the majority of the law breakers.
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>>61227228
>Looking at that thread, it looks like that it isn't prosecutable
No. You clearly missed the first post where the lawyer says it's not illegal and the next lawyer says the the first lawyer is correct. Further, "4 lawyers agree" is under the first lawyer's post.
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Can someone please post the wrestling gif?
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wow fuck cnn
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>>61227240
Enforcing the law never needed the hatred and bullshit against a group.

"I'm going to stop illegal immigration" would do just fine, Barry deported fucktons without causing a new rise in hatecrimes.

If you do it in a "I'm going to stop illegal immigration because illegal immigrants are rapists and steal our jobs" way, you clearly try to attract racists to your cause, and legitimise hatred.
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>>61227280
Not him, but let's accept your argument: it's not illegal. Does that make what they did ok? Digging up a person's history, doxxing them, and then threatening to reveal everything about him unless he publicly apologizes? Or do you think that blowback from such a move can and should be seen as pretty scummy, as corporation that claims to represent and report to the people threatens a private individual for their own gains?
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>>61227198
>What about providing your citizens with healthcare

Western nations have higher life expectancy and mortality rates than Arabian nations
'
>means to stay alive without a job?

You mean welfare?

>Iran does it quite well.

Just as long as you don't talk shit about their regime, they don't do that free speech thing as well

And of course you realize the USA isn't the only western nation, correct?
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>>61227307
List some documentation of the federal government hating a group.
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>>61227343
*Lower mortality rates
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>>61227343
>they don't do that free speech thing as well
Neither does most of Europe. What's your point?
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>extorted him to apologise
Top kek
Is that it?
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>>61227106
>Most illegal immigrants are rather brown. And most aren't rapists.

If you weren't a retard you gets his insight from Buzzfeed you would know a thing about the Mexican drug cartel culture or gangs like MS 13

And where did Trump say they were rapists (a bunch of them are) because they were brown?

>While tons of others were

Because they're either wartorn (Syria, Yeman) have no effective government (Somalia, Libya, thanks Obama/Hillary) and one because the kikes probably ordered it (Iran)

I guess you forgot Trump grovel and give Saudi Araba (the birthplace of Islam) 500 million dollars worth of weapons to a bunch of dangerous brown people

>They went for terror suspects, usually brown and usually without proofs but they didn't call for monitoring all Muslims

Which law did he pass where all Muslims are now under surveillance?
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>>61225892
DELETE THIS
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>>61227366
Are you going to argue that Iran or most Arabian nations have better human rights and freedom records than most of Europe (specifically the west) or are you pretending to be retarded?
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>>61227429
Don't move goalposts, anon. You spoke of freedom of speech, as if this is something that the West has universally. It's not. Most Western countries do NOT have Free Speech.
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>>61226249
is not caring a centrist
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>>61227353
How did fed agents get into these? Cheetos rhetoric is for the plebs, who then cause hate crimes. The people working for him don't give a shit, what he says.

Then https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/12/16/update-1094-bias-related-incidents-month-following-election happens.

>>61227391
Mexican cartels only get guns from Murica, they don't operate there directly nor give a shit about migrating to Murica.
The actual migrants commit less crime than the average burger.
http://thehill.com/latino/324607-reports-find-that-immigrants-commit-less-crime-than-us-born-citizens

>where did Trump say they were rapists (a bunch of them are) because they were brown?
Why do they need to be rapists based on their brownness for it to be considered a racist statement? He accused one of the most peaceful and mostly brown people of being rapists. Jerry from trailer park can't see the ID and is more likely to act hostile against them afterwards. As the rise of hate crime suggests.

>thanks Obama/Hillary
>implying their agenda is anything different from cheeto man
Let's stop pretending the parties aren't the same shit.

Besides, Iran got a pretty stable government and a functional democracy.

>I guess you forgot Trump grovel and give Saudi Araba
No one is accusing HIM of being a racist. He'd suck off every illegal immigrant if it meant more profit. The fact that his idiotic ban didn't affect the most aggressive country further shows, how pointless it was. Just it doesn't negate the rhetoric against Muslims in any way.

>Which law did he pass where all Muslims are now under surveillance?
It's not like he could pass that shit. The problem was even suggesting it. That's some crazy McCarthyism and only causes public distrust and hatred.

Anyway, errands call. Might reply later if the thread is still on. Pretty civil discussion given the topic, anon.
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>>61225931
webarchive.org/web/*/https://www.reddit.com/user/*

he's in there but no personal info I can find, but this is lulzworthy enough.
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>>61227488
>How did fed agents get into these?
Well, you literally said: "Enforcing the law never needed the hatred and bullshit against the group." Implying that it does now. So I asked for examples of law enforcement demonstrating hatred.
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>>61227340
There is no evidence that CNN said or suggested "apologize or I will report u." CNN only said that the fact he apologized played a role in their decision not to reveal his identity. The only "threat" is that if he does this shit again CNN can reveal it (which is an empty threat since there's nothing preventing him from using another pseudonym).

Finding out who people are is what investigative journalists do. There is nothing "scummy" about that. You seem to be assuming that the idea here was "Let's find out who this guy was and GET HIM," when, most likely, reporters were just doing what they always do in cases like this, and the guy happened to be dumb / ignorant enough to leave enough of a trail to be exposed.

So yea, I'm all for fighting against corporate power and whatnot, but this is not corporate abuse of power (there is no evidence CNN illegally obtained his IP address via their parent company).
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>>61227441
>AS WELL

Which country are you addressing? The USA has the first amendment , Jeremy Corbyn isn't facing a rope or behind bars, even a quasi Arab nation like Germany with its retarded speech codes pales in comparison to a typical Arab nation
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>>61227517
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/5/cnn-threatens-reveal-reddit-user-real-identity-ove/

>CNN is withholding the man’s identity “because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again,” Mr. Kaczynski wrote in an article published Tuesday night.

>“CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change,” he continued.

>>61227522
Britain does not have free speech. They actually have negative free speech.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_by_country#United_Kingdom
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>>61227549
And yet barely any instance of someone being detained or punished to death for criticizing the crown or the government compared to Saudi Arabia or Arab nations that have a semblance of a government

The fucking Punk Rock movement has major roots in the UK
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>>61227569
What's your point? Freedom of speech either exists, or it doesn't. Just because one country has tolerates more speech than another country doesn't mean that the country that tolerates more speech has free speech.

Hell, not even the US has truly free speech. Don't believe me, start talking publicly about how you want to assassinate the president. Go into great detail.
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>>61227488
The bulk of their weapons also comes from Central and South America which is what they would use if Fast and Furious didn't happen (Thanks again Obama and Holder)
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>The actual migrants commit less crime than the average burger.

LEGAL immigrants

>Why do they need to be rapists based on their brownness for it to be considered a racist statement?

He didn't call them rapists because they are brown

>He accused one of the most peaceful and mostly brown people of being rapists. Jerry from trailer park can't see the ID and is more likely to act hostile against them afterwards

Ah yes, looks like a very peaceful and stable nation (pic related) I would rather live here as a white guy than a boring rural area in the south, Pedro from the meth addict seems very tranquil

>Let's stop pretending the parties aren't the same shit.

Who was president and SOT during the invasion of Libya? Iraq was Bush's fault right?

>Besides, Iran got a pretty stable government and a functional democracy.

Yes, just forget about their shabby human, press, and Internet freedom record. Not a big deal, I know where the places i'm vacationing this summer.

>No one is accusing HIM of being a racist.

So is he against illegal immigrants because they're brown or not? You flip flopped in one post there


>He'd suck off every illegal immigrant if it meant more profit

Except corporations easily hire them because they can pay them slave wages while CEOs get to pocket the cash, wonder why he isn't sucking them off.

>The fact that his idiotic ban didn't affect the most aggressive country further shows, how pointless it was

So you agree he should target all Arab counties? Because they're all fairly fucking aggressive whether it's killing each other or funding/arming the killing.

>It's not like he could pass that shit. The problem was even suggesting it.

So he doesn't monitor brown people? Thanks for confirming

Much more threatening than the NSA already reading your shit
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>>61227587
>What's your point?

That Islamic culture is not akin to western values and that Sharia Law is vastly more draconian

Not to mention the UK does have freedom of expression rights under article 10 of the Human Rights Act

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Rights_Act_1998

>start talking publicly about how you want to assassinate the president. Go into great detail

If I were in Iran (alot of Iran shills in this thread for some reason) , just saying "BLOMALD BLOMFP" would be enough to get me locked up.
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>>61224691
>>61224716
It's not illegal to reveal his identity.

What's illegal here is coercion, and it's fucking textbook.
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>>61227692
Could you not make posts that are a mile long?
Thanks.
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>>61227761
Could you suck my dick?

Thanks
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>>61227692
Oh shit, forgot pic related
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>>61227773
yes

of course

I'll suck your dick


once you


stop making


long


posts


you fuck
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>>61227844
K
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>>61225379
>In case you didn't know, /pol/ has been spreading over like a cancer

yeah that happened a few years ago chief
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>>61224947
>going against cnn lawyers, the jewception
no sane man would do this
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>>61225733
he named the jew and said nigger.
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>posting on /r/the_donald

somewhat deserved it
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