/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>61213980
I need a "cheap" 1440p 144hz monitor. None of that overpriced predator shit. I don't care if it has gsync.

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/DQVJd6

Do I even need the 3rd party cooler if I don't intend to do heavy overclocking right off the bat?

I will need to find some wireless network-card as well. Any suggestions?

>>61214011
Yes, yes you do. Also the past clearly states Ryzen benefits from faster memory. Try 3000 or even 3200Mhz, Ryzen was so much worse than Intel alternatives when reviewed on broken mobos that couldn't hit 3ghz.
In my opinion any cheap tp-link card will do and then if you need better range you can start toying with adding better antennas.

what cpu is a direct upgrade from the G4560? i was looking at buying an i5 with the same socket but its 250 bucks not including postage, then i'd need an aftermarket cooler because intel housefire

I managed to find a 580 hahahahahahha

>>61214108
Thanks for the heads-up on the memory. I'll look into it

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487319

How did i do

>>61213996
Aoc agon

>>61214207
Checked amazon. They cost literally as much as Acer predator monitors here in UK with prices starting from $500.

>>61214257
Import one from the rest of Europe, faggot.

I'm a retard and built this after lurking /g/ a while. I can afford it now but want to run it by my betters.
I'm after a good vidya machine with reliable brands that I won't have to upgrade for years. How's this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nHWxvV

>>61214530
you'll never have 500gb of shit you need instant access to, get a smaller SSD

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>>61214011
>>61214108
>>61214196
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dmLt2R
I suppose this will be my final shopping list then. Everything looks good?

Will a amd gpu and a intel cpu bite eachother in the ass?

Thinking to get a g4560 with a gtx1050 or rx 560

>>61213996
Dell S2417DG

>>61214530
Do you even lurk bro? The fucking op says not to buy i5's.
If all you do is gaming get a 1600 since it also scales much better with ram, considering you picked 3400mhz ram for some reason.
500gb ssd is fine if you can afford it, otherwise unnecessary.
With the money you save on a smaller ssd and the CPU you can afford to upgrade to a 1080 ti if you want.

I haven't followed PSU's much recently but i thought i read a while ago that seasonic weren't that good. Not sure there

>>61214530
I'm this guy >>61214685

Looking more at the build i'm really not sure if you're trolling. In any case i fixed it so other people might find it useful.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/84N3JV

I changed the PSU to a well known brand, its 100 less watts but you didn't need them anyway, and its a bit cheaper.

I got slightly slower ram because most times ram can't even get to 3400, so i saved money there.

I got a 250gb ssd and saved money there, got a ryzen 1600 and motherboard(i dont know shit about motherboards so i dont know how good this one is) and while the price for the motherboard on your own list wasnt included i'm sure that saved you money.

And i upgraded to a 1080 ti.
All this for 30 more dollars.

Personally i think the case you picked looks like shit but to each his own.

>>61214742
Why 4.0 to 3.2 on the CPU? I thought most games don't take advantage of loadsacores. Hope this isn't brandwars memes.
The PSU is showing unchanged for me.

>>61214651

No I made this exact setup for a friend that just wanted to piss around on CSGO

second-hand
33 Intel - Pentium G3220 3.0GHz Dual-Core
50 Patriot viper 4x2(8) ddr3
26 500gb HHD Samsung hd502IJ
35 MSI B85-G43 Gaming

new
20 Raidmax - XT 300W ATX
35 Sharkoon VS4-S

mostly browsing, light gaming if possible (can it handle csgo lowest setting?)
might add a used gpu

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Should I get the Vengeance or Ripjaw ram? Do I even need 3200 memory? or am I going to high?

>>61214950
that just takes us to OUR list.
Use the permalink

Okay faggots, please tell me what you think:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JF3LNN

I have a 3k$ budget, I don't live in the US.
Mostly for (intense) gaming, browsing, compile shit, VMs, madVR or mpv highest settings, muh future-proof, etc.

>inb4 why not Ryzen?
Not mature enough.

>>61214950
Sorry I was checking out support on the motherboard and it says the motherboard (ryzen cpu support speed)only supports 2333 with the Ripjaw(3200). I'm geussing something like that means I wont be getting the power i'm hoping for?
>>61214970
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bdrTf8 sorry :-P

>>61214988
one or the other with the ram.
given prices, go with whichevers cheaper. There isn't much between 3000 mhz and 3200 mhz.
otherwise, looks good. need a case though

>>61214903
>Raidmax - XT 300W ATX
get a better psu at least

Let's hope that R2.0 version of Prime X370-Pro will be designed by Asus' Taipei team and especially the UEFI.

>>61214979
ooow i'm jelly.

I'm upgrading to a ryzen 5 1600
do you have any recommendations for cpu coolers, should I just use the stock one?

I have an FX 6300 and a gigabyte GA-78LMT.
Is there anything I can replace this with for £200 or below?
I play games occasionally and have a r9 290x gpu which in happy with.

Main problem is my ssd cannot run at full speed on this motherboards sata ports :(

>>61215086
Used 2500k + Asus P8P67 Deluxe or Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7-B3.

>>61214979
looks good

>>61215106
And no, that is not the main problem. It's the fact that mobo can't run FX-6300@stock without throttling.
Don't believe rated speeds, and I believe you don't mean pcie ssd or m2, because former is obviously fixable.

>>61214742
no need for a liquid cooling since ryzen won't go over 4.0 anyway and that can be achieved on 30$ air cooler.
psu is still an overkill, this won't go over 500w.
also he probably (as in 99%) doesn't need x370 mobo. b350 would be enough.

i see you like to waste people's money.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8TDWsJ
need a new graphics card. gonna be using it for gaming mainly. any suggestions?

>>61215128
>>61215106

Thanks I'll check them out.
As for the ssd I have no idea, I was told the motherboard can only run it at a slower speed.
Am I not getting the most out of my 6300 then? If not could I get away with a better motherboard?

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>>61214979

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>>61214530
>>61214853

>>61215272
>>61215291
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>61215234
>Am I not getting the most out of my 6300 then? If not could I get away with a better motherboard?
To be honest, unless you're AMD fanatic and want to stay with Piledriver cpu, there is no point buying better AM3+ board at this point, simply because those better boards (Asus 990FX Sabertooth R2.0, Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7 and -UD3 rev 4) are fairly expensive even on the used market.

With Sandy Bridge chips (on LGA1155: 2500k, 2600k or 2700k) you will get 40% better single threaded performance clock-for-clock compared to your Piledriver FX-6300 and since used 2500k can be had for 50 bucks (or euros) today, I'd go for it, if you want fairly cheap upgrade.

If im using an i5-4670 (non K) and my friend is giving me i5-4690K does it work with my Z87 motherboard since they're both LGA 1150?

So when will this mining meme end? People should be wising up by now that they got conned into buying computer hardware at this point.

I just want a graphics card below or at MSRP.

>>61215322
Yes it does.

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>>61215017
>need a case though
I''ve got an old piece of shit like this. I think I'll be fine

>>61215311
Awesome thanks, I'm not too clued up about intel stuff, I'm not an amd fanatic however I've only ever had amd so I'm stuck in my ways there. I'll have a browse around for the intel ones you mentioned.

>>61215353
just plug and play?
no compatibility issues?

>>61214890
Thanks mate.

>>61215190
I did a quick change because he very blatantly ignored the OP.
I forgot to change his cpu cooler, i got him the overclockable board just in case he wants to do it at some point.
Looking at his previous build he's fine with spending that much money.
Help him out yourself if you want to talk shit to me. You make good points and i could have changed that shit but i just didn't bother.
But before shittalking me make your own suggestions to him

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>>61214642

>>61214183
Sell it for a profit while you still can

>>61214979
>Mostly for (intense) gaming, browsing, compile shit, VMs, madVR or mpv highest settings, muh future-proof, etc.
And you're insistent on getting a fucking quadcore for that? In 2017?

>>61215434
What do you suggest then?

>>61214979
>>61215434

intel 750 at 800gb for the same price as that 960 pro 1tb

>>61215322
>>61215353

yeah and try getting some new ram ddr3 2400ish at cl 11ish and if you're overclocking which is also dependent on your psu

>>61214853
Because the price difference between the 6700k and the 1600 make the lower clock worth the money you save, that money can be spent on a better GPU which will impact your performance much more than the CPU.
Makes sense?

>>61215456
Either R7 or Intel HEDT.

>>61214424

Replying to guy in previous thread.
I've been thinking more about it and while maybe buying a setup that will allow me play current games at 144hz 1440p will not reach the same level in the future, the base hardware will still be good enough to get 60+ fps, so while its overkill for that purpose now, and it's not super efficient, it's still going to be worth it after all.

used r9 270x 2gb or new rx 560 4gb?

Is it true the new Core i9 and Core i7 processors will require more intensive cooling alternatives? especially for overclocking?

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Looking at Sapphires warranty and it says this.
>Products not purchased from an official SAPPHIRE distributor or reseller.
Is buying it brand new off of ebay considered 'official' distributor or reseller?

Where can i get a windows operating system either for free or for cheap?

>>61215593
Intel is literally recommending a water cooler as the minimum you should use. So yeah, you need a good cooler just to run them at stock, a great one if you actually want to overclock. And you might need a fan for the motherboard VRMs as well, in the latter case.

>>61215576

r9 270x

>>61215552

4k plz

>>61215595

only if the seller on ebay was sapphire, send proof of purchase

>>61215627

10 ent trial edition, won't be free

>>61215593
You might be able to get close to 4GHz out of an i9 on an NH-D15 with an aggressive fan curve, but even AIOs start tapping out once you go above that. You need custom water to even think about the kind of frequencies that Haswell-E could do on air (and Broadwell-E with a high end AIO).

>>61215678
From all i've read, i find the 1440p 144hz setup much more interesting and cool

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>>61214742
>>61214530
Before you purchase your Ram and motherboard and all that go onto their respective websites and check if everything is compatible in the QVL. Even if partpicker says it's compatible some parts can hamper eachother and only cause it to use half its capacity

>>61214642
>>61215401
I'm not sure about this myself but in previous threads tons of people said it's unessecary to purchase a cpu cooler for a Ryzen 5

>>61215769
The 1600X doesn't come with a cooler.

>>61215740
>Even if partpicker says it's compatible some parts can hamper eachother and only cause it to use half its capacity
Nnno. Either it won't work at all, or it'll work at reduced frequency. The capacity will be unaffected.

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>>61215630
>you need a good cooler just to run them at stock
I hope AMD stops them from making this the future

>>61215678
>only if the seller on ebay was sapphire, send proof of purchase
What. You mean proof of purchase? Anyways i'm pretty sure sapphire doesn't sell online so that means I can't get a trustworthy warranty via online purchase?

>>61215811
> it'll work at reduced frequency
Sorry thats what I meant to say but didn't know how to put it into words.

I'm getting a good price on the https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1080-ARMOR-8G-OC.html, is it just as good as other 1080's? Also it says it has both a 6-pin and 8-pin power connector, could I just use the 6 pin? I might not have a valid 8 pin cable and replacing my PSU would be a pain.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7BYnVY

So is this build any good? I'm from Canada and all the mid range gpu's are out of stock so I decided go for a cheap one until I can find a decent one. My budget is around 1300-1500 cad dollars.

>>61215877
>Also it says it has both a 6-pin and 8-pin power connector, could I just use the 6 pin?
No.

>>61215928
So what's the point of having it?

>>61215457
My 520 watt PSU enough for i5-4690K overclocked to 4.3-4.6 GHz and GTX 1060?

>>61215937
Because 8-pin connector wouldn't be able to provide sufficient power by itself? It's a 250W card, you need both connectors to provide that.

>>61215969
it's not the ti, the 1080 is only 180W (and other variants seem to only have the 8pin).

>>61215901
I'd scrap the noctua for a Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi, based purely on looks and cooling performance.
And I think you're spending too much for a mediocre case. At least get something with a window. PCs are becoming centerpieces and it saddens me to see people making ugly box PCs you want to shove in a cabinet so you don't have to look at it.
As to the build buying a cheap GPU until good ones are in stock is what everyone's doing.

>>61215769
Yeah, I'm a little on the fence about that one. Might just skip the cooler for now, and see how it goes.

>>61215784
But the 1600 does. I don't plan on getting the 1600X. >>61215401 is another anon

>>61215992
Do you have a recommendation for the case if the one I have is not good? I don't mind spending some more on it especially since I'm not spending much on the gpu.

>>61214206
Not great, 1080s are down to ~670 CAD and I've seen them at 450 USD before. That said, those are bottom dollar sale prices.

how hard is it to pirate an operating system?

>>61216115
Nigger, Win10 is free, just download PicoKMS afterwards.

>>61216142
>picokms
looks sketchy as hell.

>>61216196
It isn't and there are other options. Or you simply install wangblows and leave it as is, it will work just fine.

>>61216142
How would you go about installing it onto a USB drive?

Also, what would be the best1080ti to grab on the market right now if I wanted a card that'd last me 3-4yrs? I have a 1060 right now so is it better to wait for the new cards to drop?

>>61216218
MS official install tool or if you have the iso use Rufus.

Best 1080Ti's are probably Zotac AMP! Extreme, Galax/KFA HOF and the hybrid/water cooled versions.

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>>61216142
sounds like something a 0% clean program would say.

whats a good mobo for an r5 1600? not planning on doing any heavy overclocking or need any extra controllers

will G4560 & 1050 survive a 10l no case fan itx build? what about the [spoiler]m.2[/spoiler] drive?

>>61215827

trustworthy warranty online if the seller has a physical store under an address as a registered business to be licensed and generate a receipt from a transaction. The proof of purchase/receipt traces back the transaction to the maker under a legal jurisdiction where the goods were delivered in a white market versus jamals cousin for example.

>>61215836

throttling, even with all mobo safeguards off usually cpus throttle at 72.72 degrees celsius

>>61215962

is that psu seasonic S12II 80 bronze

>>61216009

coolers are important do this >>61215401

>>61216458
Depends. Does the itx build have a lot of vents?

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>>61215901

DO THIS also wth with those canadian prices and currency valuation, your budget was 1300-1500 right
you can go 1600 B350M but


don't be a cuck

pic related is gud

>>61216218

evga>msi>asus

>>61216557
>MSI > ASUS
Lmao no.

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So I asked yesterday about this, but my sound still isn't coming through my speakers. I've tried everything I could imagined, even uninstalled all Nvidia drivers and audio drivers but the HDMI nvidia outputs still show on my audio devices window. I'm getting really confused on why this is, but it all happened when I installed my new 1080ti and updated the drivers.

>might save up $12 by the end of the year if I start budgeting food now
>"wonder what upgrades could this buy?"
>used phenom II X4 costs $30
>used gtx750 costs $100
Pls kill me, I want to be a wage-slave no longer.

>>61216569

referring from newcucktierya top tier to bottom

msi lightning
msi seahawk

strix is ok, but asus doesn't have a top tier equivalent which is most of the time placebo when you can flash bios

most asus on asus build to be OC

asus products are also more widely distributed than msi

msi is super overrated but they're building their brand from gaymen where asush have the best mobos

>>61216615

don't use nvidia for sound wth
cpanel, audio pic related

then ddu, boot with av/firewall disabled offline, download the onboard audio drivers from mobo website, install audio, reboot, install vidya drivers unselect all except physx clean install

also check what cables you're connecting your speakers with, replace them

>>61215069
Use the stock one, it's more than adequate. Cryorig H7 if you want an upgrade, something Noctua if you want more of an upgrade.

>>61216655
The equivalent of MSI seahawk is Poseidon. Not Strix.

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Any X370 or B350 owners here?
Sound off with your motherboard, Ryzen CPU, memory pairing, and how good it is

>>61216557

>1600X instead of 1600
>not a B350 board
>520W bronze
>1070

This is the worst build I've seen all day. Kill yourself.

Currently using a 1080p 60hz monitor with a 1060. Want to upgrade monitors but a 1440 would require lowering settings which I'd rather not do.
Is getting a 1080 144hz a sidegrade and waste of money? Should I just get a 1440 144 when I can get a new gpu?

>>61216780
What is wrong with a 520W bronze?

>>61216719
R7 1700 @ 4GHz
2x8GB G.Skill TridentZ 3866 @ 3200
Crosshair VI Hero
It's awesome

>>61216025
One of the most popular cases in the NZXT S340, and its direct competitor, the Phanteks Eclipse P400S
I personally am going with a white/blue Corsair Carbide series Spec Alpha case for my own build.

>>61216823
>3866 @ 3200
y tho

>>61216843
I have an eclipse p400s and it's fantastic.
I do end up popping the front cover off if I'm running something demanding to allow the airflow, but the front cover has quick release clips anyway so I presume it's designed to have that option if you need to.

>>61216872
I love how easy maintenance is in the P400. Pop off the filters every week or so and clean them. You don't even have to unscrew any side panel to get to them. I am not sure how the NZXT 340 is like.

>>61216990
Yeah for sure, you can tell they put alot of thought into every part of it, the quality is exceptional too.

>>61216869
Because it was barely any more expensive than a 3200MHz CL14 kit. Might as well have plenty of headroom for future improvements.

>>61216719
X370 + 1600 + Ripjaws V 3200 CL16 here.
Sound is good and easily powers my DT990 250 Ohm, RAM and CPU at stock for now, no time do deal with it but with latest BIOS update everything will be fine.
One retarded thing about Anua mobos is the glued backplate.

>>61216872
>>61216990
>>61217146
If they offered the S340 with a white/blue color combo, I'd have chosen that over the Spec Alpha.

>>61216809
nothing. it's a good psu.
i bet he tells everyone to buy supernova g3

>>61217297
If you're running a 1600x OC'd with 1070 OC'd you're hitting way too close to the limit. You're not supposed to fully load a PSU. A 650W is a way better idea.

>>61216719

ASUS PRIME B350M-A
Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200Mhz 2x8GB at rated speeds

Only complaint about the motherboard is that the VRM's have no heatsink so I had to stick my own on. But they run fine.

>>61213980
Can anyone post a performance per watt comparison between Ryzen and Kaby Lake?

I'm so indecisive right now. Would it be worth making a ryzen 1600 build or should I go with an i5-7600k build? The CPUs and there motherboards are pretty cheap at microcenter (1600 bundle is 20$ cheaper at 300) but I'm not to sure on what to buy yet. main purpose would be gaming (only triple A game would be The Witcher 3) and general internet browsing along with school work.

>>61217355
ryzen all the way. i5s are dead.
with 7600k you'd also need ~35$ cpu cooler, while 1600 comes with a stock one.
also b350 mobos are generally cheaper than z270.

>>61217355
How are people still considering i5s?

>>61217355
Ryzen

>>61216782
1440p + gfx card later

>>61217393
It's about 190 at microcenter. That's why i considered it.

>>61217375
Any recommendation for a mobo? Most of them don't have much reviews and the ones that are available are a bit older and have issues with them

I've been wanting to upgrade my RAM for a while, I have 2x4GB HyperX Fury 2400MHz and wanted to buy another kit, however the kit is expensive as fuck at the moment and a single 8GB stick is much cheaper (same brand same specs), can I dual channel with 8GB stick and 2x4GB kit? My motherboard is the MSI Z270 Gaming Pro Carbon if that matters.

>>61217355

Ryzen hands down

>>61215627
you can buy win 10 keys from ebay for < 5 €

>>61217434
asrock pro4 or something from msi (tomahawk, gaming pro, mortar, mate)

>>61217449
Thanks

>>61217437
i think that'll put you into Flex mode. also you don't need the same 2x4gb kit for it to work so you can get other brand

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thinking of upgrading my gpu.
what would be an optimal choice?

>>61217479
nothing since all gpus are taken by cryptofags (miners).

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>>61216780
>>61216809
>>61217297

harsh, it's fine imo you'd rather downgrade from X to 1600, not as exciting, I'd rather OC and that 520W psu is fine

1500 canadian btw

>>61214131
Really cuz there's the i5 6400 for around $184 and if your planning on overclocking it's fine since your buying a cooler if not go for AMD.

>>61217533
if you're going to spend $600 on a GPU, get a 1080 instead of a 1070 that's overpriced because of miners.

>>61217533
change mobo to asrock pro4 or msi.
850 pro is a meme.
you can get double the capacity (sandisk or su800) for the same price and you won't notice a difference in real world applications.

>>61217478
Is there any disadvantage in running them in Flex mode instead of dual channel?

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r8 and h8
Already have a videocard, and probably going to buy the i5-7640X

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/mqXzgL

my 4k monitor is absolutely awesome but not sure how to handle dpi scaling.
on the one hand everything is to small if not at least a scaling of 125%
on the other hand some of muh games dick around because of this.
how do you solve the 4k menace?

>>61217675

>i5-7640x

fuck off retard

>>61217401
Is there any problem with using a 1440 in 1080 while gaming?
And how fucked will I be if I don't get a g sync monitor with a 1060? I figure I'll get an AMD gpu in the future, so I'd like to buy with that in mind.

Do I need extra fans for the Define C or are the two included fans good enough?

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>>61217571

you're right, didn't see that lone 1080

>>61217611

pro4 (that design) and b350 plus have realtek NICs so changed to the riciest one which has the OP intel 1211 gigabit chip

this pro isn't a meme it's faster

so this ref build is ok otherwise switch to sandisk and get a 3tb hdd

>>61217700

on 4k as well at a distance on a larger screen, you'd have to absolutely keep 100% and not scale at all. zoom more in general, on your browser if you're using some ff variant in about:config put layout.css.devpixelsperpx 1.75 to increase resolution. takes sometime getting used to

>>61217819
This is a proper build.

practically building a whole new computer at this point and thought i'd get a new case also, need something that'll allow me to hide cables easily and around $100 CAD

anyone have this?
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01FG9XYQ6/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=MUNM0K6062UN&coliid=IOW428X4FJZGL&psc=1

>>61217945
I bought a Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition
was recommended to me here as well.

So far what I have from the recommendations of making a ryzen build. Thoughts?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b6XTf8

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So I'm plugging everything together now and came across the wires. It seems they are connected to my case but I don't know where they are supposed to go.

>>61217986
just get a normal 1050 instead of the Ti
>but muh 4GB
the 1050 isn't powerful enough to make use of the extra vram so it's useless on that card.

other than that, looks good.
You can upgrade to an RX570/RX580/Vega when GPU prices finally stabilize.

When will this cryptoshit blow over so I can buy a reasonably priced GPU, even faggots on craigslist are selling used 1070's for $600 :'(

>>61218029
Does your case have a built in fan control?
They look like fan plugs

How do I tell what power supply I need for my system? Wanna upgrade to 1080ti before year end, but only have 550w PSU

>>61218103
It does have a knob next to the power button so I'm guessing yes.

>>61218107
550 should be fine, Im not sure id over clock with that tho.

>>61218137

>550 should be fine

How do you know anon isn't pairing it with a goddamn 9590? In that scenario at full tilt that system would pull well over 550w.

>>61218137
I can upgrade that too, just a matter of saving another 70 bucks or so. Rewiring it isn't much of a pain right? I was just curious.

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Guys pls help.

I was delidding my 7700K and while I managed to get the IHS off, it looks like I bent it a little. Is it worth trying to bend it back or will it straighten out once I put it back in the motherboard.

>>61218107
PSU calculator.

>>61218157
it should straighten out fine once you put it in the socket and clamp it down

>>61218157

that chip is fucked lmoa

>>61218047
Ah I already had the 1050ti. Got it for about 110 so I'm cool with. Just needed to put a card in there.

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>>61217986

sup

intel nic, only reason to go high end is double NICs or several nvme and meme-fi

presumably a current best-seller in taiwan, rice

how can you settle for 1050s and evos when for close to a quarter more pulls more than double half-life plus you'd use the high quality parts on a next build (ssd, psu)

>>61218136
Plug your fans into those then for manual control over them.

>>61218184
Really? Well, would it hurt to atleast try it? Like will it damage the morherboard?

Now that the dust has settled, what ended up being the best motherboard manufacturer for Ryzen?

I ended up using a Gigabyte motherboard for my main build, but I'm actually quite surprised how good my Asus Prime is for being a cheaper board.

>>61218157
>Guys pls help.
>
>I was delidding my 7700K and while I managed to get the IHS off, it looks like I bent it a little. Is it worth trying to bend it back or will it straighten out once I put it back in the motherboard.

Sorry but this is too tasty.
Fucking intel sheeple, actually delidding and destroying your 300+$ CPU

>>61218223
I'm just poor. Though ill probably take your recommendations.

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is a 1080 too much for 1440p?

how'd i do lads

>>61217787
>Is there any problem with using a 1440 in 1080 while gaming?
I don't know, but it's not an integer pixel ratio so it's probably not a good idea. You can turn down settings at 1440p to get reasonable framerates

>if I don't get a g sync monitor with a 1060?
Don't worry

Personally I'd suggest getting the monitor and card at the same time. No harm in waiting for better products at lower prices unless something is wrong with your current display

>>61218370
Dumbass

>>61213996
S2417DG. I have one and a/ some calibration it’s . There is some color banding but that’s the only downside I’ve noticed at all

>>61218393
Good luck with your product shilling

>>61218415
Dumbass

>>61217819
>this pro isn't a meme it's faster
in benchmarks.
in real world you'll get maybe 0.3s in loading screens.
only a retard would pick 850 pro when you can get double the capacity for the same price

>>61218223
Good build. The 1600 is a really killer CPU. Even better if you’re gaming at 1440p/4K

>>61218223
That drive won't last a month.

>>61218256
Nah you can try it fine without damaging the motherboard. There's a small chance of it working if you just plop it in and make the retention bracket flatten it.

So I upgraded my pc and now when I turn it on its asking me for windows recovery. I have windows 7 and upgraded to a ryzen 1700x did I fuck up?

>>61218345

the return will be significantly more because the choices are already refined to their best price and your worldview will change because when you have all components jiving together in unison then you can peek at the next level because it's worthwhile for just a tad more™

>>61218157

slap it back with some mx4 paste and post results

>>61218410

1440p144hz rec monitors:

MG279Q freesync
XF270HU gsync

>>61218444

I meant the 256GB version of the 850 PRO is faster than the others, it's not just capacity it's this 10yr warranty and even using it for torrents coupled with a nas if you look at the specifics it's a better ssd and not snake oil while the nvme format is more retarded as the intel 750s are better, I raid them and use double nics

>>61218513

I know, right. quite a good build ref

>>61218534

won't last a month in dl? use a nas separately for storage, local streaming, VMs but I don't hoard

>>61218047
>the 1050 isn't powerful enough to make use of the extra vram so it's useless on that card.

I don't know, some games run much, much better on ti, Doom gets almost double the fps. I'm thinking about getting the 1050 because 1050tis are either all sold out or cost 250$ ( thanks miners ) and I kinda want those extra 2gb.

>>61218534
Currently using a 840 since 2014.

Is there a big difference between DDR4-2133 and DDR4-3000 RAM? I don't know what I should get

Does Prime day usually have good sales on parts?

>>61218575
Can't just swap hard drives to a new mobo. Have to reinstall OS. Win7 is a little bit tough to install on Ryzen. If you're asking the question in the first place you should probably just install Win10 because it's easy to get the files and set up a USB stick

Why can't ryzen clock higher?

>>61218987
Sorry, forgot to add. This is what I'm going for:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VXds7h

>>61218987
>>61219015
Ryzen benefits a LOT from faster RAM, due to the Infinity Fabric bandwidth being tied to RAM speed. And even in general, you should get the fastest RAM that's reasonably priced.

Remember to make sure that the RAM you're getting is on the motherboard's QVL list. Ryzen is kind of finicky about the RAM.

>>61218987

Today's chipsets benefit more from the memory bandwidth available than they do from lower latencies/tighter timings.

It's better to buy RAM that runs at faster speeds (or greater bandwidth). In most cases, the bus speed/maximum bandwidth of the RAM in question will help determine how far you can push a CPU overclock.

Don't spend more for lower latency RAM unless you can find it for around the same prices as the higher latency variety.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jrpyNN

What doth thou lads perceive of my list?

Any critiques?
Any complaints?

>>61218987
Depends on your mobo

>>61218736
Plenty of examples of PC exclusives where the RX cards get their framerates halved. The recent Get Even, for instance. Any low budget Unreal game will run like shit on AMD

Fortunately I don't care about those or 30FPS on my 470 is acceptable

>itx case that houses an ATX psu but no mounting holes for SFX

FUKKEN REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>61219006
Damn And thank you for your reply. how can I reinstall windows 7 then? I have no way of getting windows 10 at this moment and won't be able to for a while.

>>61219167
Which PSU did you get? Corsair usually includes an adapter bracket, Silverstone does on their higher end models. Which case btw?

>>61219069
Thanks, I checked and it seems to be fine
>>61219112
It lists DDR4-2133 / 2400 / 2666 / 2933 / 3200, but I assume DDR4-3000 is fine too?
>>61219088
Sorry, I didn't really understand that well. Are you saying that it being DDR4, for example, over DDR3 is better than it being 3000Hz over 2133Hz?

>>61219196
You can install Windows10 from Microsoft's website without paying first. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
If you want to pay eventually you can buy a key from within the OS

>>61219093
just get r5 1600.
stock cooler is going to be on par with hyper t2
get 2x8gb ram
change monitor to Acer G257HU (bigger + IPS panel)

This memorykit from Corsair (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16) isn't listed in the QVL for the X370-Pro mobo from Asus.
Does that mean it won't work at all?

Memory:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/p6RFf7/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16
QVL:
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/PRIME_X370-PRO/PRIME_X370-PRO_Memory_QVL_20170704.pdf

>>61219390

What it means is that the only certainty is that it will run at 2133mhz.

Finished my build today and it boots to bios, all temps fine and all components have been picked up. Problem is I used old my old HDD which is giving me BSOD and apparently old HDD'S on a new rig is a nono. I have a clean SSD aside from the two hard drives, is it possible to just install the OS onto the SSD and then delete the old version from my HDD or are they both as good as useless now?

>>61219390
It's not guaranteed to work, but it might. I've seen good things about Corsair Vengeance. Look up other people's experiences

Should I order from Amazon or from Newegg? Hearing some shit about Newegg makes me feel at unease. And because of shipping costs, I gotta choose one or the other. I live in Europe.

>>61218157
>>61218175
>>61218333
>>61218632
Well I tried flattening it out a little with my hands, then I put the liquid metal on best I could. I put it back in the motherboard, dropped the IHS back on, then clamped it down.

I try and turn the system on now, the fans start spinning but the screen doesn't come on, how do I fix this?

>>61219197

Wha, that's great. I'm doing a jonsbo c2 case. SFX would free up some much needed space. It's really coming together now with a low profile GPU to allow direct airflow to the CPU/SFX. Without an LP gpu the case really struggles. But this completely changes it. It has limited cooling since it has all side panels covered, but with the right components it'll run well. 11.7L mAtx case, pretty sick value.

>>61219541
Jonsbo is great, I wanted to build my ITX pc in the U1 plus case but I wanted an optical drive and wasn't a fan of the big window and went with the Lian Li PC Q21 instead which is really tiny (should have chosen the PC Q21). Considering that it's the same arrangement as the c2 only a bit smaller you should get away with full height cards don't you think? Or did you mean shorter card? because that's an absolute must in these cases. Got myself the smallest EVGA 1060 6gb which is already too long really.

>>61219525
Your processor is fucked.

Sell my 1070 to buy a 1080?

>>61219467
>>61219511
They sure do seem picky regarding their memory.
I suppose I'll just get the 3000 MHz ones instead - they're cheaper too

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/MYH48d/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15

Trying to boot for the first time and install windows using the usb tool but it keeps stopping while loading, what could be causing this?

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In case PC building is too expensive or hard, you guys should try this computer giveaway

MSI/AMD is giving away a gaming rig

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Does anyone have a mining rig? Would Ryzen and an AMD card be the way to go? Trying to mine BTC with nicehash.

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>>61219751

I was referring to low profile cards that only come up to 1050ti series I'm afraid. (eg GTX1050 2LGT LPV1). They're half a slot wide, so if you have a bottom intake fan for example, the air can breeze past it right up to the cpu. It'd be ideal to have some space below your gfx card aswell (see pic related). Since your case is shorter, I would look into single slot cards. Few of such 1050ti's are about to launch. That's of course if 1050ti meets your needs and you can switch it up and use your 1060 elsewhere.

Is the 1080 really worth the money? What should I get instead? I want to run Dark Souls III at 1080p 60fps.

>>61219968
Go with an Intel CPU and 13 AMD cards.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H110%20Pro%20BTC+/index.asp

I just wanted to build a gaymen pc but thanks to the miners there isn't any gpu in reasonable price I'll stick with a ps4 or xbox, can I at least connect a kb+m in the console ?

>>61219968
get the cheapest celeron CPU you can find, you also need at least 4 gigs of ram (maybe more if you have multi-GPU setup).

How long is this coin mining thing going to last or is it a forever thing?

In the world of mini pc's what's around for absolute dirt cheap that can play movies and process AC3 audio without being a laggy bitch?

The RPi is shitty and too slow, I've got spare computers/parts lying around but they're loud and big and hoover up a lot of power. There's a bunch of choice out there but not many have an SPDIF toslink plug on them or only come with some shitty derivative of Android.

>>61220019
My build is working fine temperature wise, I didn't even need to add dual 80mm fans at the top as i feared. I originally had a 1050ti mini (which got this qhole build rolling) but it struggled a bit with my 4k display and I only have a G4620 powering the rest. Was a nice challenge tho and space was a bigger concern than money in the 1 room weekday apartment that I'm spending my nights in the next few months. CPU maxes out at about 50°C (well it's a tiny dual core) and GPU at 55°C. The 1050ti never went over 50% fan speed and 45 degrees tho. I still have it as backup, the big advantage was that I didn't need the extra power cable since it runs off the mainboard power only. It's used as a media machine for working and streaming from Prime/Netflix and playing BluRays and this kind of stuff with occasional gaming.

>>61220139
It is a forever thing on a smaller scale. But the recent craze came from ETH, I think that it will be over once ETH becomes too expensive to mine or when it becomes PoS, whatever comes first.

>>61220122
You can't do that, if you live in Europe check a website called Mindfactory.de, sometimes they get batches of AMD cards and they are limiting the sales to 3 per person. They are selling them at the default prices. I recommended checking it out and keeping an eye for when the cards get in stock.

>>61220062
A GTX 970/R9 290 will easily max out DS3 at 1080p, you don't need a high end GTX 1080 for that.

>>61220217
Though luck I'm from Greece and nothing is shipped here we are banned worldwide because of the capital controls

>>61219873
Did you try using another USB stick? Did you try putting windows on the USB using another software?

>>61220256
Meant tough*

>>61219793
How much will you pay? Also what resolution do you play at?

Should I get a cooler master liquid pro 240 or a corsair h100i?

>>61219516
see this
>>61220217

>>61220244
Yep. I played through Dark Souls III on a 780 and it never dipped below 60.

>>61220291
liquid cooling is an absolute meme. If you are going to "overclock" then you better spend the money on a faster CPU/GPU rather than liquid cooling.

>>61219507
Yes it should be possible as long as the SSD/HDD are actually working. You might want to check the boot priority though.

>>61220244
Well I guess I wouldn't mind being able to play at 1440p even though I don't have a 1440p monitor right now.

>>61217793
Default case fans are usually shit tier. Be prepared to buy aftermarket ones.

what does it feel like to use a 144Hz screen

>>61220365
Then I suggest you wait until you get enough money to buy the monitor and the GPU at once. Don't buy one before the other as you will not benefit and you will waste your money because technology gets cheaper with time.

>>61220408
I wouldn't know because I never used one, but when I overclocked my screen from 60Hz to 75Hz the difference was immediately apparent. I imagine 144Hz would be as fluid as life :) .

>>61220408
everything is extremely smooth. The first time I tested a 144Hz computer I just scrolled a webpage for 2 minutes because it felt soo differemt

1060 vs 580?

>>61220429
580 because more future proof and higher VRAM.

>>61220419
>>61220424
I think I'll consider it for a future build then, thanks

>>61220429
If you can get them at the same price, the 580 is a generally a better buy. You should look at the benchmarks for games you're going to play, though.

>>61220429
>>61220456
Good luck finding a 580 though. It's gotten to the point that prebuilts with 580s in them are better value than building a 580 system.

>>61220409
Okay, so should I go with the 1060 6gb then? I want to be able to play games at 1080 60fps for the next few years. I don't play AAA games that much but I will play the occasional AAA.

>>61220482
Both of them and the 480 should run games at 1080p 60hz fine.

>>61220482
I imagine for 1080p a 1060 will be very enough for you specially if you don't play AAA games with supah dupah graphx

>>61220507
>>61220520
Okay thanks. How does this look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b4VhXH

Will a 1070 be enough for 1440p at 75htz and some VR fun for the next 3 years?

Need a GPU while I wait for Vega.

There's a local store offering a 760 for a $50 special. Is that a good deal/card?

>>61220477
1060 are also gone
i want cryptofags to burn alive

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What is the optimal radiator position?

>>61220520
you don't need a $70 cpu cooler, and pay for windows. I'd also get a better PSU, with higher wattage and efficiency. And you should get SSD
>>61220706
Been using one for 3 years, still can run pretty much anything. Definitely not 1080/60fps but still can do it.

>>61220716
I think 2, the radiator will perform better with the colder air directly from the outside of the case

>>61220291

Get an NH-D15 over liquid cooling. It's going to be cheaper and quieter.

>>61220637
You don't need the cooler, Ryzen CPU's run very good with stock coolers. Also don't buy Windows, you can download a free evaluation copy from the Microsoft website and keep using it forever for free. Consider buying fans for the case though, stock case fans are usually shit.

>>61220781
Wow, I've never thought of it like that

>>61216383
Nobody forces you to use it.
Maybe you should
>install gentoo
instead.

>>61220781
I was thinking of changing it round because of the temps of my 1080, reaching about 85 when im gaming.

I thought pure cold in through the front onto the card and into the case would cool the 1080 down, rather than it getting blasted by warm after after it passes the rad

Lads I just finished building and installed windows, seemed to be going fine, now I have lost the signal on my monitor and can no longer get any output, just says no source detected, fans are still spinning and gpu is lighting up, what do

>>61220941
Try using the video output directly from the motherboard. If it works then something is not right with the GPU, probably driver issue.

>>61220941
Do you maybe have the cable plugged into then onboard output instead of the GPU output?

>>61220978
Dont think I can do that with ryzen

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>>61219329
I don't have access to another computer either. Currently I'm trying to do a clean install of win 7 on my hdd but for some reason I am met with this pic. I'm really stuck now that I can't even wipe my hdd as a last resort to use my new pc.

>>61220905
you have to remember that your gpu will heat up the air a lot more than your cpu, and with a open air cooler all the heat will stay inside the case and go through the cpu radiator, cooling it with less efficiency

>>61220726
>>61220806
How much watts should I get then? Also I want the HDD because I need the space.

>>61221001
It seems to me that you have an issue with the motherboard. I mean first it doesn't detect the GPU and now it doesn't detect the drives?

>>61220637
What the fuck is that memory? I've never seen it. Is it some regional stuff?

>>61221024
I told you nothing about the PSU, it is fine, 500 Watts is very ok if you are running a single GPU and you are running Ryzen.

>>61220801
It's also big and can block your RAM, GPU, and you can damage your CPU/mobo during transportation, unless you remove the heatsink and GPU prior to moving. Still a great cooler though, I was going to get one but decided to get a AiO, epsecially for a mid tower ATX build.

>>61221001
hey faggit
Use windows 10 if you can't figure basic shit out

>>61221035
Not sure honestly. Are there other brands that would be more trustworthy?

>>61221046
Alright I upgraded the efficiency to gold like the other anon said.

I'm trying to upgrade from i7 970. r7 1800x or i7 7700k?

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>>61221116
Ryzen, it runs cooler, quieter, and the gameplay will be smoother if it is for games. Pic related.

Ok Ive plugged monitor into laptop and that displays fine so definitely the gpu that is the problem, what can I do, it worked fine 5 minutes ago

>>61221111
>Are there other brands that would be more trustworthy?
You should have a look at the QVL for your board. Especially if you're going to use >=3000Mhz RAM.

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Is logical increments trustworthy these days?

They are recommending this ram (pic related) for use with the i7 7700k,
and I'm not sure if I should buy it or get something else.

Can't find any serious reviews anywhere.

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>>61221171
oops wrong pic

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nstMHN

what do you fellows think?

>>61221171
>>61221196
>Is logical increments trustworthy these days?
Fuck. No. Recommending the i7-7700K for anything other than specific niche usages is stupid and the RAM choice is even worse. That RAM is standard RAM for budget / office build, you want something better and faster.

>>61221209
This is a troll build, right?

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>>61221209
I think you should always keep a fire extinguisher at hand.

>>61221027
The bios works fine. But other than that I'm stumped on what could be wrong with the motherboard

>>61221111
I'm curious about that ram as well since it's the first time I've seen it.

>>61221242
What would you recommend as ram for the 7700k?

>Should I buy this of 190$

>CPU Intel i3 4370 3,8GHz
>Chipset Intel Q87 Express
>8BG RAM DDR3
>500GB HDD SATA6 7200RPM

i would later upgrade with 1050ti or something suggeestions?

what is the best manufacturer to get a 1050 ti from?

>>61221352
>dualcore
Ew. Having said that, it's not bad for what you're paying.

>>61221377
Whoever has the cheapest one.

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>>61219006
>tfw did some thing so I wouldn't have to reinstall my OS when I swapped mobos a year or so ago
I suspect it's making my computer run slow but I'm too lazy to reinstall the entire thing

>>61221170
Team is showing up in the QVL under 2800Mhz. I don't know if that means it would work or not. To tell you the truth I don't know how to read this chart.

>>61221431
You have to check the specific model number, not just the brand.

>>61221352
Yeah it's pretty great if you're on a budget, g4560 + mobo alone is $150~.

>>61221242
other than it being fuck-ugly, i don't see what's wrong with it.

>>61221352
>>61221393
70% of time CS:GO and AOE2HD. any chance on the witcher?
Ill llater do a 600$ biild in fall anyway

>>61221463
Ah okay, well it looks like the motherboard doesn't like 16gb of RAM at 3000mhz then. Should I get a different motherboard?

>>61221512
Either that or different RAM. You're probably going to have easier time finding a compatible motherboard if you pick something like Corsair Vengeance(or other popular brand/model) instead.

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tfw my hands are so clumsy I broke of a gpu transistor, so now it only runs in the x4 pci slot, at least I have an excuse to upgrade from a 750 to a 1050ti

>>61221335
Cheapest 3000/3200 kit 8 or 16 GB.

>>61221488
It's slow.

>>61219525
you don't

buy a new cpu and learn from your mistakes

>>61221735
>1TB ram

>>61221577
Okay this is my updated build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TBD6f8
Also how do I get Windows 10 for free? There is a download on their website but isn't that for a limited time?

>>61214979
Almost have this exact same build in the mail

I just found a brand new 580 strix for 370€ shall I get it for my new 1080p 144hz gayming build?

>>61222024
no. That's about 150 eurobucks overpriced.

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>>61222024
Wow, what a bargain.

I'm looking at prices for 1080ti's at microcenter, it says it's 710$ for the EVGA model, is this the actual price if I walk into the store and pay for it there ? I ask this because I have 715 in my bank account and I don't want my card to get declined.

>>61222067
>>61222072
Ok I'll wait for Vega.. it will come out... eventually

>>61222111
nigga they got tax and shit

>>61222128
It says there is a 10 dollar rebate

>>61221393
>>61221473
>>61221495

second-hand
33 Intel - Pentium G3220 3.0GHz Dual-Core
50 Patriot viper 4x2(8) ddr3
26 500gb HHD Samsung hd502IJ
35 MSI B85-G43 Gaming

new
20 Raidmax - XT 300W ATX (will get different psu)
35 Sharkoon VS4-S

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>>61214979
>muh maturity

kys

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TBD6f8
Would this be a good PC for 1080p 60fps for now and then someday I will upgrade the graphics card when I get a better monitor?

NEW THREAD
>>61222261
>>61222261
>>61222261

>>61222154
For gaming? Nah, you're not gonna AAA game on a G3220, when a g4560 can. Only two threads in there and very low frequency. CS:GO should be fine though.

>>61220284
Planning on 1440p

I'll pay for one of those $500 1080 I see with the 8gb gddr5x

>>61218410
how to color calibrate that shit?

>>61213980
With new GPU prices being shocking, what would be the best GPU upgrade to a 6870, a GTX 770 perhaps?