What went wrong?

>>61211728
Botnet

they turned self-righteous and started pushing agendas

should've been
"don't be evil and don't be a hero either"

>>61211728
"Evil" used to be well-defined. It no longer is.

>>61211728
Rarely do people look at their own actions and think i am evil, it is mostly "i do this which would be considered evil but i am doing it for radically good reasons and so it totally is justified and i am not evil"

Having to answer to shareholders that demand profits be made.

Could be worse, it could be facebook.

Beast system of the antichrist

they started drinking their own kool-aid. everything went to their collective heads and they started thinking they could do no wrong.

any organization starts catering to the interests of whatever makes them money. In Google's case, the ad industry. And since the ad industry is literally about lying to people and tricking them, nothing good comes of that.

Eric Schmidt is one of the few people that makes me think "Okay, maybe /pol/ was right"

>>61211754
"All we're doing is providing an advertisement hub on our search engine so businesses can maximize their potential"
"All we're doing is creating metadata about you using your location, personal messages, and browsing habits so we can improve ad impressions and provide an API for 3rd party advertising firms"
"All we're doing is complying with the legal obligation to turn over all of our hosted data to the (PROPER AUTHORITY), it is our data after all! YOU AGREED, REMEMBER!?"

>>61211728
Truthfully I think it's a sort of autistic engineers mindset.
Is it evil to abolish privacy if you revolutionise transportation? Is it evil to abolish privacy if you bring people closer together? Is it evil to abolish privacy if you help people find the goods and services you want?

I would say in all circumstances it's evil to abolish privacy, it's a fundamental part of being human - but if you adopt a purely problem solving approach, a lazy cost-benefit analysis without any romanticism, you might well conclude that it's evil to retain it. Then again, 95% of the general public don't seem to give a damn either way - so maybe I'm the autistic one for ascribing it any importance.

>>61211728
Instead of helping keep users safe and secure they turned to the government because they knew they'd generate more shekels that way if they complied with NSA/CIA/FBI/ALL OTHER GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS. They use "advertisement" as an excuse to create a digital profile of all users that can be pulled and sent to the agency of their choosing at any time.

TL;DR they became buttbuddies with the government

>>61211728
there is no way that a project that turns into a huge corporation doesn't go full Bond villain evil.
It's just the order of things. The state of things also makes it to be this way even if they all try to do good. One side of Alphabet doesn't know what the fuck is the other side doing and even with best intentions they would be fucking someone, something or themselves up.

>>61212187
you are not the only one doing that. But to be honest if Google wasn't big, someone else would be doing the same. In fact right now a lot more companies are doing or trying to do the same and there's no way stopping what's coming.
As you said, the saddest part is that nobody gives a fuck how they slowly surrender their privacy for the sake of convenience and always using their ignorance as excuse.

Evil is controlling other people's destinies, deciding their choices for them, and manipulating their lives; irrespective of the intent or goodwill behind this tyranny, it is an evil tyranny nonetheless.

So in that aspect i'd say Google is evil.

>>61212317
it's kind of shocking how many people actually seem to want this. They want to be told how to live and what to think.

>>61211747
Good point

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>>61211728

all of google's datamining is to create artificial intelligence

cant garauntee if itll be evil or not desu famalam

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>>61212498
If it goes on here it will be most definitely evil

>>61211728
Being evil pays.

>>61211754
Evil is the lack of goodness

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>>61212469

The more colorful and fun and care-free a company presents itself outwardly, the more rotten it is inside.

>>61212528
they're making a second AI designed to be as autistic as possible

that's why the hired Moot

>>61211728
Money, but to be fair every single 90s tech startup was made by greedy cunts.I don't know why anyone was surprised by what happened.

Google isn't evil. Just selfish and psychopathic... just like every other megacorp.

>>61212593
Empty space is not evil.

>>61211788
Facebook had no fall from grace though, they were absolutely fucking awful from day one and just kind of stayed equally shit up until now.

The only thing that has changed about Facebook is normies are using it to repost video content, which is cancerous as fuck, I don't even care about I.P. or Google funded neetbux but the ease with which people are able to fuck over some people's livelihoods for internet points and likes on their shitty fucking page they want to sell to Russians is one of the saddest things to happen to the internet in years.

>>61211728
>What went wrong?

Google went public in 2004. At that instant it literally became illegal for them to not be evil.

Like their management can actually go to jail for not being Dr. Evil.

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>>61211728
Jews.

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>>61213539
They are blatant

>>61211728
They missed out on the huge growth in Chinese market after they withdrew.

>>61211788
Dude, Google could make a crazy bum talking through a sock puppet their CEO and it wouldn't hurt their profit for the next 20 years.

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>>61211892
>If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide, Goyim

>>61211728
Jews

>>61213708
My midget scat porn with hats on isn't "wrong" per se, but it is certainly something to hide.

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>DONT BE EVIL(we determine what is evil) OR ELSE WE WILL ALLOW THE (((AGENCIES))) ACCESS!

>>61211728
People used to understand that companies aren't your friend. Google managed to persuade them they are.

>>61212187
>>61212313
Agreed.

To state the obvious we were warned about this decades in advance, but the people who warned us were labeled "conspiracy theorists", so they are wrong in perpetuity.

Wonder what the future will bring...

>>61211728
They grew from an ambitious, big corporation into a boring, gigantic monster fighting for every shekel.

At least their smaller projects still look alright.

>>61213539
>>61213560
My fucking sides, are they really that butthurt?

Holy shit I want to meet a person who's this much of a baby

>>61211728
nothing, really. Everything is going according to the plan

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>What went wrong?
People bought into that "Don't be evil" shit.

Monopolistic behavior... When there is no real competition, no real antitrust rules, megacorps canibalise their best assets and best brains, zombify customers (Apple, look at you...), in their search to maximize profit, resulting in decaying, rotten corrupt companies.

>>61211763
....Or even further

"Nothing about me is evil, it's the things around me that are evil and it's my duty to change them, and I know what's right because it 'feels' right, irrespective of the facts.

>>61211728

OK OP, real talk:
You know what marketing is?
What rules a marketing manager follows?

Don't believe anything a company tells you, ESPECIALLY when we are talking about the biggest media company out there.

Just don't, OK?

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>>61212631
:DDD

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Absolute power corrupts absolutely

>>61211728
Someone covered the 'dont' in dollar bills

>>61212919

So Monster Energy is basically the bastion of honesty and integrity

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>>61212469

Put more effort into art.

>>61216046
They seem pretty honest actually. I don't remember them pretending their shit is healthy as Coca Cola did for example.

>>61211747
>they turned self-righteous and started pushing agendas
That's the thing, though, I think corporations only really do this if it will benefit themselves towards their real goal, which is making more money and not losing any money.

Honestly, making more money is probably why Google turned, "evil," anyways.

>>61216267
heh, not that it matters bro but..
>On November 10, 2008, distribution of the Monster Energy and Monster Java products was turned over to Coca-Cola Enterprises.

>>61211728
Google was always evil. If you ever thought otherwise, you were taken in by their PR department.

>Eric Schmidt was born in Washington, DC, where his father had graduating with a degree in engineering from Princeton. In 1979 Schmidt headed out West to Berkeley, where he received his PhD before joining Stanford/Berkley spin-off Sun Microsystems in 1983. By the time he left Sun, sixteen years later, he had become part of its executive leadership. Sun had significant contracts with the US government, but it was not until he was in Utah as CEO of Novell that records show Schmidt strategically engaging Washington’s overt political class.

>Federal campaign finance records show that on January 6, 1999, Schmidt donated two lots of $1,000 to the Republican senator for Utah, Orrin Hatch. On the same day Schmidt’s wife, Wendy, is also listed giving two lots of $1,000 to Senator Hatch. By the start of 2001 over a dozen other politicians and PACs, including Al Gore, George W. Bush, Dianne Feinstein, and Hillary Clinton, were on the Schmidts’ payroll, in one case for $100,000. 57 By 2013, Eric Schmidt—who had become publicly over-associated with the Obama White House—was more politic. Eight Republicans and eight Democrats were directly funded, as were two PACs. That April, $32,300 went to the National Republican Senatorial Committee. A month later the same amount, $32,300, headed off to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Why Schmidt was donating exactly the same amount of money to both parties is a $64,600 question.

>It was also in 1999 that Schmidt joined the board of a Washington, DC–based group: the New America Foundation, a merger of well-connected centrist forces (in DC terms). The foundation and its 100 staff serve as an influence mill, using its network of approved national security, foreign policy, and technology pundits to place hundreds of articles and op-eds per year. By 2008 Schmidt had become chairman of its board of directors.

>>61216901
>As of 2013 the New America Foundation’s principal funders (each contributing over $1 million) are listed as Eric and Wendy Schmidt, the US State Department, and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Secondary funders include Google, USAID, and Radio Free Asia. Schmidt’s involvement in the New America Foundation places him firmly in the Washington establishment nexus. The foundation’s other board members, seven of whom also list themselves as members of the Council on Foreign Relations, include Francis Fukuyama, one of the intellectual fathers of the neoconservative movement; Rita Hauser, who served on the President’s Intelligence Advisory Board under both Bush and Obama; Jonathan Soros, the son of George Soros; Walter Russell Mead, a US security strategist and editor of the American Interest ; Helene Gayle, who sits on the boards of Coca-Cola, Colgate-Palmolive, the Rockefeller Foundation, the State Department’s Foreign Affairs Policy Unit, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Center for Strategic and International Studies, the White House Fellows program, and Bono’s ONE Campaign; and Daniel Yergin, oil geostrategist, former chair of the US Department of Energy’s Task Force on Strategic Energy Research, and author of The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money and Power.

>The chief executive of the foundation, appointed in 2013, is Jared Cohen’s former boss at the State Department’s Policy Planning Staff, Anne-Marie Slaughter, a Princeton law and for Obama to respond to the Ukraine crisis not only by deploying covert US forces into the country but also by dropping bombs on Syria—on the basis that this will send a message to Russia and China. Along with Schmidt, she is a 2013 attendee of the Bilderberg conference and sits on the State Department’s Foreign Affairs Policy Board.

>>61216911
>There was nothing politically hapless about Eric Schmidt. I had been too eager to see a politically unambitious Silicon Valley engineer, a relic of the good old days of computer science graduate culture on the West Coast. But that is not the sort of person who attends the Bilderberg conference four years running, who pays regular visits to the White House, or who delivers “fireside chats” at the World Economic Forum in Davos. Schmidt’s emergence as Google’s “foreign minister”—making pomp and ceremony state visits across geopolitical fault lines—had not come out of nowhere; it had been presaged by years of assimilation within US establishment networks of reputation and influence.

>>61211728
>>61211747
The social justice thing isn't "real", it's just a distraction. When a company is doing some shitty stuff, screwing over their customers, dodging taxes, etc., they shift the focus to social justice so people will forgive them because they are "woke".

The same thing happened with Occupy wall street. The coordinated media started pushing a narrative of there being too many white men and the "progressive stack" that made it so only retarded, black, female communists were allowed to speak at rallies and within a couple weeks the whole self destructed. Maybe some people in Google actually believe it, or maybe you have to convince yourself of it to "fake it till you make it", but at any rate it's totally artificial, and part of a coverup of the rest of Google's criminal activities.

>>61217345
>The social justice thing isn't "real", it's just a distraction
I think many companies don't care about it but they know their costumers do so by promoting it they get more costumers which means more money.

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>>61218506
Aye, that's the gist of it.But it's a bit of a pandora's box. After Occupy they kind of packed it back in and that was that, but now it's ubiquitous. They've figured out they can use it for anything and everything.

>Polygon uses social justice as an excuse to give Sony games lower scores than Microsoft games because they are on MS's payroll
>Wall Street Journal among others use social justice to attack their competitor YouTube by way of PewDiePie's Jew jokes, Jorge Sprave's stab proof vest review, etc.
>Mainstream politicians use it to try and crush outsiders like Trump.

In fact even Bernie Sanders who cucked to BLM many times was not excused from it. During the primaries, Clinton herself said that regulating and breaking up big banks won't solve social justice issues and we should focus on those instead of on government corruption, so that's another example of the big banks using it to divert suspicion. http://archive.is/aY8uG

It may already be happening, but the inevitable end of this is essentially what happened to the Goon Squad in the ancient history of the internet. Go on moralfagging for a few years and eventually people will actually believe it, and soon you turn into a Communist terrorist organization because the false cover of justice becomes real and there's no turning back.

>>61217345
>The social justice thing isn't "real",
Oh you are so wrong it doesnt get any wronger. Academia is pumping out neo marxists at an alarming rate and they occupy hr, marketing and every soft job. This is a giant cancer that the corporations thought they can appease it with some jobs. Guess what it doesnt work.