/tpg/ - Thinkpad General

Reminder to clean your keyboards lads

got my first thinkpad two weeks ago, a x220. feels good to type on every time

this is the best meme

>>61211153
How

>>61211159
>he probably has the alps keyboard but fell for the *20 meme

precision keyboard is superior.

>>61211162
canned air
isoproyl alcohol
lysol

dunno m8, depens on how thorough you want to be.

>there aren't any new big resolution 5:4 monitors to go along with your thinkpad for the business experience

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe

>>61211159
I got mine a little over a month ago, t510

Is the Thinkpad E575 worth it, /tpg/?

>>61211939
Wait until they put Raven Ridge on it.

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How do I disable this stupid message? I know when the radios are on and off, I just operated the fucking button for it.

I would like to replace the 1024x768 screen in a 14,1" T60 with a 1400x1050 panel. Do I have decent options?

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>>61211132

> Have T400 with P8400, HD3470, and 8GB of RAM
> Worried that someday C2D will no longer cut it or something else will happen (issues with the GPU, mobo, etc)
> Absolutely refuse to use any laptop that has island keys

I'm basically gonna have to buy an T420 or an X220 and hold on to it until I fucking die, aren't I?

I'm thinking of getting the basic dock for my t460 so I don't have to plug in all my peripherals everytime i sit down at my desk.

Can I use the laptop's screen while it's docked, or do I have to use an external monitor?

someone can literally recommend me a future proof thinkpad? i have a t61 who for shitpost is okay but i need horsepower for other things,this t61 run a video and is literally exploding itself

>>61212379
>T61P

But in all seriousness the T420 handled well back when my parents owned one and used it for all their email, video, and news. my T520 does well also, I'd recommend either model.

I'm getting a X230 for school. I want battery life and I feel like an i7 is pointless for my intended use so I'm going for an i5.

What are the terrible screens I should steer clear from? What keywords do I put into the eBay machine to find them?

Are i5 models shipped with good screens or will I need to buy a replacement?

I remember awhile back there was talk about a firmware update for an ME exploit
is it out yet? how do I apply it on linux?

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Where in the fuck is the linux-phc patch?

Wanted to undervolt my C2D and was looking for the latest. I hope the version(s) I have in my backup directories support at least linux kernel 4.9 or I'm boned.

>>61212283
Yes you can. We have those in my company and shit's tight. I'll be getting a dock for my thinkpad next week for sure.

>>61212731
the basic one doesn't have audio output unfortunately :c

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>>61212715
Disregard, I suck cocks. Supports up to 4.12 that just released:

http://www.linux-phc.org/forum/download/file.php?id=178

T430s is best ChinkPad

RYZEN ThinkPad when?

Does $180 (150+9%tax+$17 shipping) seem like a good deal for a good condition 8gb ram 128 gb ssd x220?

>>61212968
What cpu and condition

>>61212999
i3 2310, it's pretty trashed, the screen has a crack in it and he says the keyboard is water damaged.

>>61212999
i5 2520. Used, reputable seller describes it as "great condition".

>>61213013
>>61213019
Don't even bother, get a mint one (Grade A) at least. T410-T430s is great deal too

>>61213013
I wouldn't call it "good condition" if it had a crack in the screen you nutsack.

>>61213046
Alright thanks. I already have a t420 on the way but I'm still looking for a small one for carrying around.
If only the seller wasn't in cali then I wouldn't get hit with the 9% tax.

>>61211603
You can get 20" 1600*1200 monitors for like £40

>>61212578
You have to steer clear of TN displays.
In the specs given in product description, check if the screen is an IPS panel. If the price isn't through the roof (~200$ is alright) buy it.
I think it doesn't matter if the processor is i5 or i7, you'll have to check for the term "IPS" specifically. Other keyword for IPS display is "premium display" as Lenovo calls it

>>61213135
Thank you.

Shit, looking at them online and it seems to be cheaper to buy a model with the TN and buy a IPS screen to put in myself. IPS models cost 3 times as much for some fucked up reason.

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Is this worth the price?

Refurbished X1 Carbon with:
>3rd gen i5 at 1.8Ghz
>8GB
>128GB SSD
>integraded graphics 4000
>14'' 1600x900 LED

for AUD$370 (USD$280)

Won't be used for gaming; only streaming, browsing, and note taking

>>61211132
Where to get replacement keys for cheap? x220 here

>>61213237
i got one with a smashed screen (maybe $110 for a new panel) for $80 recently, so if you're willing to wait a while you might be able to get one <$250. Otherwise that's not bad for a complete one. Just keep in mind the SSD in these uses some fucked up connector and will be a huge pain to replace.

>>61213237
> >14'' 1600x900 LED

> for AUD$370 (USD$280)
Is it 1st gen Carbon with TN panel? I suggest you should search for a 2nd gen, which can have an IPS panel.

Is there much difference in speed between mSATA (which is SATA2 speed) SSD and 2.5'' SATA3 SSD on T530?
I'm talking about real day-to-day use, not meme benchmarks.

>>61212069
>thinking a core2duo will be obsolete
>I'm still using a T42 with a Pentium M from 2004 as my daily driver
If it can shitpost, its all good.

>>61212069
you will always have loonix and disabling shitty js that bogs down whatever porn site you might frequent.
my x200 still works like a champ, and i have to still upgrade the ram. i do have a 500gb ssd on it though, and MATE which could be further pushed to some low resource tiling wm. not there yet though.

>>61212069
>T420 or an X220
xx30 with keyboard swap is also an option.

The good news is a T420/T430 with SB/IB CPU and a decent amount of ram will last you a LONG time before it's obsolete, even longer if you swap the CPU for quad core.

Hey, what do you think ?
Should I buy the :
Lenovo ThinkPad T420 14" LED Notebook Intel Dual Core i7-2640M 2.80GHz 8 GB DDR3 RAM 1 TB HD DVD-RW WiFi Bluetooth Webcam Windows 7 Professional 64-bit


or the :

Lenovo ThinkPad T430s 23539WU 14' LED Notebook - Intel - Core i7-3520M 2.9GHz - Black

>>61213302
>recommending the second gen x1
>ever
How fucking autistic are you?
>>61213237
Meh not really
3rd gen core cpus aren't efficient enough personally
I'd suggest you go for a x230 or T430 with an extended battery

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Desktopification is now complete.
250GB Samsung 850 Evo + 2TB HDD in the laptop in place of the ODD, so the DVD is now in an external enclosure, and the chink 3.5" drive dock arrived today allowing me to mount desktop drives.
If Windows didn't reset my ICC profiles every time I dock/undock it it would be perfect.

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It's here. Anything else I need to do to cleanse the filth of the previous owner?

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>>61214446

Why does Clover feel the need to flip images?

>>61214446
isopropyl alcohol

Does anyone happen to have a script for battery balancing (for internal+external battery ThinkPads), preferably using `tpacpi-bat`?

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New memefriend in da thread.
Welcome home memepad!

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>>61214594
Nope, he is not welcomed for buying T440p.
It's a plastic toy with nothing to do with thinkpads other than that sticker that says "Thinkpad"

>>61214533
Got some, plus some Arctic MX4.

>>61214620
Sorry anon, but I don't have the money lying around for a T70 and I need newer hardware than the old 4:3s.

>>61214620
>tpg is one person

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>>61214638
>not willing to do this your laptop to get quadcore CPUS
Casual

>>61214676
Freely admitting that. I'm a Macbook babby and this is my first foray into actually good Windows laptops. Picture got deleted before I could see it.

>>61214694
Thankfully I can just swap in a 4700MQ and the dGPU cooling system on mine.

Should i put a hdd in my optical drive bay or get a msata drive? I already have an ssd in my primary bay.

>>61214702
Enjoy the lack of
-Thinklight
-Proper keyboard
-8:5 ratio screen
-The ability to use ultrabay batteries
-Build quality

>>61214731
If this is a bad keyboard I can't wait to try an older one.

And I'd rather have 16:9 than 16:10 to avoid terribly designed programs screwing up because of it.

I've got an SSD in my Ultrabay as well, so no huge loss there.

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>>61214870
>If this is a bad keyboard I can't wait to try an older one.
Being this big of an idiot.
>And I'd rather have 16:9 than 16:10 to avoid terribly designed programs screwing up because of it.
Stop using windows botnet
>I've got an SSD in my Ultrabay as well, so no huge loss there.
Your laptop does not have ultrabay. It's just a Optical drive bay. You can do this swap with all laptops with optical drive (if can remove it that is).
Congrats, you bought over glorified E440, also
>that spacing
gb2 >>>/r/eddit

>>61214620
It's a x220 my memeanon

>>61214968
fuck off chinkpad fag.

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>>61214920
The T440p doesn't take a battery but it's still technically called an Ultrabay. He's not wrong. I think it's actually the last Thinkpad to have one, even if in name only.

>>61215036
Not him, but, you don't have to act all autistic to show that you are a grandpa....

>>61214620
Some of us want modern hardware, old-timer.

>>61214629
(re)install whatever os suits your needs. the biggest filth is usually in the software

My t430 for some reason had snoop dog as the background and was filled with useless bloat the previous owner thought was useful

>>61214482
Metadata stripping. Your images are rotated after they've been taken ie it's stored in the meta data. When clover strips your data it posts the picture as its been taken or something along those lines

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>>61214620
That's not a T440p you dumb nigger

Why are genuine 9 cells so expensive in australia?
All the ones on ebay are around $160.

Is it worth it?

thinkpad e470 i7-7500u/256gb ssd / 8gb ram / 940mx

$838 AUD brand new

Yes or no?

>>61215256
Well, I definitely took the picture vertically. Might just be the phone being weird. Thanks.

>>61215310
Is that dollarydoos or burger dollars?
Either way here's a way to think about it
If you always have a bag or something with you, you could always carry an extra 6 cell with you like me

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>>61215084
I attacked him because I thought he was welcoming that T440p fag. He is still a fag for acting that way.
>>61215127
Well enjoy getting botnet'd by Jewtel
>>61215275
Dumb phoneposter. Opinion discarded.
>>61215323
Yes, you won't gain much for getting T470 anyway. Just ready your ass for some drilling and install gentoo.
>>61215310
No, just buy chinese housefire™ batteries to add excitement and danger to your boring ass life.

>>61215354
>drilling
for air flow?

>>61215342
No its most likely clover undoing the rotation. It's pretty frequent
>>61215354
>I never leave my house

Raven Ridge on Thinkpads when?

>>61215343
160 aud, although i could get one from america for ~30 aud cheaper.

>>61215354
I have a t430 so a housefire isn't an option

>>61215377
that's so raven @_@

>>61215367
No, for your ass because modern thinkpads are pain in the ass to deal with.
>>61215375
Is this a valid argument you have there? Lol, I use my T30 as my EDC computer until I get my T60 librebooted.

>>61215389
>I have a t430 so a housefire isn't an option
https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec
here u go

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>>61215389
But isn't the shipping more than 30 aud? Don't they cancel out? Also the battery drm is broken so you can use chink batteries >>61215403
>>61215398
I'm fucking bus posting you faggot. I don't feel like wasting my battery over mobile hotspots

>>61215429
>I don't feel like wasting my battery over mobile hotspots
What do you mean? Don't you have a USB-cable with you so you can share the internet to the laptop that way. Assuming your laptop is made after the year 1996.

>>61215455
Forgot charger
I guess I'm the faggot now?

>>61215390
that show was so odd. disney live shows are all so shit and formulamatic but still a little good at the same time

>>61215398
for what?

>>61215455
That still requires using laptop battery, which I'm pretty sure is what that anon is trying to avoid.

>>61215429
Just had another look and the US one is closer to $50 cheaper including shipping to aus normally but i have a 20% coupon or something which doesn't apply to shipping so it closes the gap since the aus one has free shipping

>>61215481
I actually have my T430 charger I just don't have my phone charger
Also just realized pulling out a 14" laptop on the bus is rather cumbersome

>>61215500
Ah, right. Fair enough.

>>61215496
Honestly having one big battery is pretty cool but you could always have multiple 6 cells on you too
Honestly just buy it. 30 aud doesn't sound too bad of a difference

Has anyone had any experience with "B Grade" refurbished Elitebooks?
I'm looking to pick up a laptop for a sibling going off to college. I know I'd need to bump it to 8gb of ram. The elitebook in question is:
>$210
>i5 4300U
>4gb memory
>320gb hdd
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834267235&cm_re=hp_elitebook-_-34-267-235-_-Product

>>61215562
Wow that's good looking
Also nice cpu choice. The 4200u is a bag of shit, the 4300u is acceptable

Off the top of my head on some thinkpads, Newegg puts a vinyl wrap on the lid on very scratched up models. They might do the same here

Okay, I'm in a bit of a pickle between two models.
>t420s
>i5-2520M
>4gb (dont need more)
>320GB
>Intel HD 3000
>180$

The other model is basically the same spec-wise, a T420 (1366x768screen) but it has an nV Quadro 4200M for +35$, is it worth to go for this one instead?

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>>61215541
Yeah with the discount it's only 135 aud so i may as well do it.

Plus i get that big and chunky pack

>>61215696

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-NVS-4200M-vs-Intel-HD-3000-Mobile-V2-13-GHz/m7966vsm7647

I'm going with a no, unless you specifically need a Quadro.

>>61211132
what happened to the old OP

>>61215820
Mods deleted it or it was just so slow it got automatically deleted

>>61215914
i mean the old OP image

I want a T400 or a X200, which most powered of them both? How much RAM can I upgrade and how do I know?

>>61215999
The less portable model will virtually always be the more powerful and upgrade-friendly one.

>>61211153
>>61211162
>>61211195

I'm a germaphobe I guess, I get grossed out at the idea of having a used laptop as my personal computer without deep and thorough cleansing. I'd probably just order a new keyboard and then just disinfectant wipe the fuck out of the entire chassis, 3 passes.

>>61215921
Oh yeah
Hopefully who ever makes the next one will use the correct image

Is a X200 tablet the same as a regular X200? Will it work the same with Linux and Libreboot?

I got a ThinkPad x220 running Debian 9 but it's missing WiFi drivers and when I insert a WiFi dongle, it says "firmware missing". help a newfag out here

>>61216400
search for "*WiFi dongle name* drivers linux"

Debian isn't too plug & play with WiFi drivers because you have to manually install proprietary drivers

>>61211132
I just got a thinkpad x60 and now the latch mechanism is broken. Can I replace this easilly?

I've found a used Thinkpad X131e for USD$125.

>i3 2367M
>11.6'' 1366x768
>4GB
>320GB SATA
>intel HD 3000

Buy it? Or should I get something else?

Any general advice for buying a used x series off of ebay?
Local isn't an option and I've never bought used tech before, just don't want to waste $200.

Hey guys what kind of laptop should I buy for college? Should I buy a used older thinkpad or a worse ideapad or something for the same price but new (and ofc better specs)?

I have like $400-$500 to spend at the moment.

I keep accidentally bumping open the disk tray on t430. What is the best option to replace it with?

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Question about T60:

I just bought a T60. Only 1GiB of RAM and a T2300 processor.

Planning to upgrade to T7600 (pretty cheap from ebay) and 4GiB of RAM. Is the T7600 compatible with all T60's? What about ram, anything special about that? (Planning to libreboot the machine afterwards)

>>61217020
A hard drive caddy

>>61216620
That seems a little high, you could get a x220 or better for that
>>61216730
If its an older one be prepared to clean the fan and reapply thermal paste. They all tend to have some cosmetic ware, my t430 has a cup mark on it.
>>61216956
Get a X220 or T430 for $100, 128gb ssd for like $60 -- go drinking with the rest. Honestly what kind of response do you want?

>>61216730
>check supervisor password
>check if everything works
>check display angles for ips or TN (just in case they switch it out)
>check other specs like drives cpus and ram (just in case they lie about it)
>check for other damages that they left out
And that pretty much it

>>61216956
What use case? If it's just notes and light games this >>61217118

>>61217162
Programming mostly and light gaming

>>61217056
3gb or 4gb depends on your chipset. T7600 is supported by the regular bios.

>>61217118
>>61217141
Thanks

>>61211975
>he still thinks the gay tabs meme is funny
you don't deserve help

>>61214236
>hp
haha no thanks

What is a good Thinkpad for a student. Gonna use it for school work, browsing and light gaming, like League of Legends. I got a budget of 300-400 Euro

After reading this thread I now know about underclocking software, is there any other specialized software for thinkpads worth knowing?

>>61213130
Which models?
I want two.

>>61212823
Hopefully never

>>61214236
Looks good m8, any links to the HDD dock?

>>61211132
looking for a really small laptop to put a 6gb ssd in and kali the fuck out
recommendations?

>>61219621
X120e

>>61219627
thnaks ill look into it

>>61214236
Not sure if you could do this under windows, but you might be able to make a script so every time it detects the external drive being "inserted" and "ejected" it applies the profile

>>61219627
any other places i could look for one other than ebay or craigslist?

>>61211132
opinions on eee pc?

How do I get a used laptop with a decent trackpad, maybe precision?

>>61219766
Get a laptop witha trackpoint or use CLI only.

>>61219852
Trackpoint isn't as fast as a good trackpad

not thinkpad related

just got a R30-A free from work. Is it worth to buy a 1080p screen for 13"?

not programming

>>61219871
Use both or learn the magics of i3.
Also install gentoo.

>>61217671
Why? Especially since it's an elitebook and not some consumer trash, or even probook. Hell it's more strong than x230
>>61217671

Is the X220 the best portable laptop there is?
>Spill drain ducts
>Good non-chicklet keyboard
>Solid, thin build
>cheap as dirt

Depends on usage. There's x230 too, with similiar features

>>61219956
does the x230 have spill-proof stuff? just got my x220, amazing

Thinkcentre M93p
190$
should I fit it with some GPU? Which one?
CS:GO, AOE 2 HD and some newer stuff?

CPU Intel i3 4370 3,8GHz
Chipset Intel Q87 Express
8BG RAM DDR3
500GB HDD SATA6 7200RPM

>>61219956
No, X220 is the worst choice. Either get an X201 for a more usable screen, or X230 for a better CPU. X220 only has disadvantages.

Just got a cheap refurbed T410i a week ago because I knew thinkpads were liked by /g/. I didn't know that parts replaceable laptops still existed.

>>61217175
Yeah any post-c2d thinkpad will be fine for that. Focus on the other specs you want: battery, screen size/ppi, etc.

>>61219673
Government auctions

>>61220747
They don't. You bought a half decade old one.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-ThinkPad-57-Cell-Battery-x/dp/B00FJA3KPS

Is there a cheaper (((legit))) way to get this battery? Replacing an old battered 6-cell that barely lasts two hours.

Can I play OSU! On an x220t or x230t?
How is the touchscreen compared to $current_year devices with touchscreen?

>>61219297
thinkfan/tpfancontrol

>>61217678
T430

>>61220431
If the original keyboard doesn't, then you have the option of slapping a X220 one in and flashing the EC to get almost all key functionality back.

>>61220547
Since it's still the crypto mining craze, I'd say a GTX 1050[ti].
I'd also say wait for Vega, but nothing is sure and it could end up being the equivalent of Quadro, but by AMD (that is, not meant for gaming but for rendering and shit).

>>61222509
osu! runs on anything, so you'll be fine.
Also, people tend to say that X2*0t digitizers (touch screens) ain't that great, but they are really decent.

>>61222230
Anyone? I assume all the chink ones are prone to suddenly burning my house down.

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>>61213588
there's no difference

>Tfw really really considering getting a thinkpad yoga

I need a touchscreen to use with a pen and write my notes.
X220t seems too bulky and heavy for daily college use.

Hey so I got a X230 a while back and love it, but it came with a 300gb drive and I'm thinking of swapping it for a 500gb or 1tb SSD. If I clone the entire HDD to the new SSD I won't need to reinstall Windows right? Asking since it didn't come with activation key for Windows.

>>61225701
Take it to stupid questions thread

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How high should I go on an IPS T550? $200?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/282557127234

Why x230 (someone call it master race) can't natively drive three external monitors while 2570p with same HD4000 iGPU easily supports 3 1920x1200 screens via 2xDP and 1xVGA ports? Can someone explain to me how is thinkpad even remotely superior in that matter?
>inb4 usb gpus
L.M.A.O
M
A
O

>>61226114
IMO, 2570p is better than x230 overall. X230 wins over 2570p with ips screen, and trackpoint+keyboard only. Other than that, 2570p is the best ultraportable.
It is much more durable than x230.
Better Upgradability.
Support for raid0 and raid1.
Better repairability.
Have support for 2 9.5mm ssd/hdd rather than msata(which is much more expensive than your standard ssds) in x230

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reminder

>>61226322
you can fit 4 drives in 2570p if you're capable of soldering
one in main 2,5" bay, one 9,5mm HDD in modded ultrabay via USB 3.0, one mSATA in same ultrabay via SATA and one in modded WWAN slot.

But let's face it, who EVER needs more than 2,5" SSD and HDD in 2570p.
Also 2570p is confirmed to have enough space to hold Seagate 5TB 2,5" HDD in slightly cut ultrabay caddy.

I'm looking to a buy a thinkpad, and have the choice of an X230 for $400 CAD, or a T440S for $510. Each has an i7, X230: 3520M T440S: 4600U. The other difference is that the X230 has a 240gb SSD, where as the T440S has 128gb. Other than that, they seem to be near identitical. Is the X230 better overall?

>>61226114
the only thing I dislike about the hp 2570p is the screen, bu honestly thinking about getting one since I need more power and more storage, but want a 12".

>>61226488
any **40 other than the t440p and I think the t540p are shit.

worst thinkpad generation ever.

There's a few T70 motherboards with i5 left, should I buy one with tiptrans /g/? It's probably gonna cost like 600 dollary doos, don't know if I should do it.

>>61226951
>with tiptrans /g/?

with what,

but yes, do it

>>61226951
Are you just trying to save money with the i5? The R3 with i7-7820HQ is available now.

>>61226635
Okay, so in what ways is the 230 better than the 440? Because it turns out that I'm paying about the same price now.

>>61214236
did you upgrade your wifi card to 7260ac already?
Did you fix ASPMs to give yourself another 1+ hours of battery life?

>>61214620
autism the post

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Hello guys, I'm aware that this isn't a tech helping center or something like that, but my T61p is unable to read the Wi-Fi card, even using 'lspci -k' won't output the name of it, and in the BIOS, the settings for the Wlan card are enabled. Even the physical switch on the front is turned on but only the Bluetooth LED lights up (as shown in the pic related), I also tried to use the Fn+F5 combination but it was useless. Have you guys got any idea or tip on how to solve this? I don't really want to waste money (even if it's only 10€) for a Wi-Fi USB dongle or for a replacement card.
>inb4 europoor

>>61226369
never going to be able to look at a new thinkpad keyboard without seeing that now
thanks arsewipe

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I think UPS is being extremely optimistic with this delivery time
I live in the UK

Does anyone have information on which VAIO laptops have a pointing stick? If not, I'll just keep searching, but it would nice if someone had a list or something. Thank you.

>>61228354
What's a pointing stick?

>>61228692
non-thinkpad trackpoint

>>61227724
it's fucked?
what card?

Whats all your opinions on thinkcentres?
why arent those dirt cheap as they should be

>>61228785
Everything works fine, both on Linux and Windows, but the WiFi card (An Intel Pro Wireless 4965) refuses to be rad by the PC

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hi, i'm quite poor and i can afford just this thing. how can i make this motherfucker able to a decent web browsing?

>>61228980
EWW
no just kidding
but really depends what webbrowsing is for you
some watch yt nonstop
the others have 1000 tabs open
the other only has 2 tabs open and browses fora nonstop

>>61229007
mainly reddit.

>>61227724
>>61227724
Not sure but it could be WiFi module blacklist, though your machine shouldn't boot up at all if this were the case. Check in BIOS to see if the wireless card and mPCIe is enabled at all, then report back.

>>61228980
>>61229065
How good are you with GNU/Linux? It really is a gamechanger.

Try installing Lubuntu if you are skill is lacking, if you are actually experienced try the netinstall of Devuan and build from the ground up.

>>61229065
Yea I recommend looking into a lightweight DE that combines with your distro, thus xubuntu(xfce), lubuntu(lxde) and a light browser, heck reddit even works in terminal if you have to https://github.com/michael-lazar/rtv

hi noob here,

if one screen is listed as "LED Compatible" and one as "backlight technology LCD " wich one is the better choice

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>>61228980
i have a t60

windows 7 ran very slow.

linux mint runs great and no issues installing it, i only needed to use ethernet to do an initial update to get wifi drivers working.

>>61229238
>mint
Why do people choose this over *buntu.
It's a *buntu in some way but my friend had it and I hated it so much.

>>61229254
Personally, I think Mint is a bit more user friendly compared to *buntu and is truly the best Babby's First Linux

Ayy lmao, quick question.
If I buy the T430 right now, how long will it last me?
I just do some normie school coding, interweb blousing, and some movies that's it.
Also t430 Vs t430s, does the S one have shittier construction?

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Hey all, could i get a good pad recommended? Id be willing to spend round 450ish. Probably no gaming, but id want something relatively fast.

>>61229508
Buy a MacBook™

>>61229285
Yea but Mindt is also a bloated piece of shit. So not really the best to show off the speed™ and snappiness® of Loonix

>>61212069
C2D will always cut it. T400 is far superior because it can run libreboot.

>>61229468
Please... somebody?

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>>61229557
Why are you being a shitter?

Good deal? 8gb ram (ddr3), i5-2520M, 1tb hdd Thinkpad T420 for £209.99 ($271.19 in american money).Cheaper to buy 4gb ram version for $232.43 and upgrade ram myself?

>>61229468
It should last you probably half a decade at least, provided you don't act like a chimp with it. After that you'd probably want to buy a new keyboard/palmrest/fan etc if any of them fails

>>61229715
Both are expensive.
At that price, you could probably get a t430. I don't know about europeen economy tho, so maybe it is reasonable for you considering the price of electronics is generally higher in Europe.

>>61229123
>>61229007
i'm good at using gnu/linux and i use internet mainly for youtube videos but the browsers i tried lag to much. is there any lightweight browser that allows me to do that without lag?

>>61229761
Alright cheers, i'll have a look.

How worse is the T430s compared to the T430?
Is the build quality same?
430s has an aluminium heatsink, compared to the copper one on the 430, will this be a problem?
What other cost cutting nonsense by Lenovo will make it a meme purchase?

>>61230626
smaller battery

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I wonder what this could be?

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>>61231164
Why it's a Lenovo Pro dock!
For my Thinkpad which still hasn't arrived

Can't really complain since it was new in the box and I got it for half the price it is on the Lenovo website

>>61231164
Dra-
>>61231255
Oh okay. Thanks anon for not dragging it out my man

>>61230626
Don't buy a thin and light that uses anything before broadwell anon. Sandy Bridge Ivy bridge and haswell aren't efficient enough

My W700DS main screen died on me. It still works but it's super dark and I can only see things when I shine a torchlight on it. How do I fix it without connecting it to an external monitor?

>>61231320
>W700DS
Do you really have a W700DS?

Someone tried the X250? How is it? Pros & cons?

>>61214694
What is going on in the picture and how do I do it?

Are there any considerations for dual booting on X230? Currently have Win10 planning to install Arch as well.

>>61231371
Why would I lie about it on a mongolian cock sucking trading post? It is buried under a bunch of shit now so here's a side view picture with the second screen ejected halfway to prove my point.

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>>61231514
Forgot the pic
>>61231371

Are the cheap batteries safe? I want to pick up something that makes my x220 last longer than like 2 hours, but don't want to to catch fire.

Looking at something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/compatible-7800mAh-Capacity-Replacement-ThinkPad/dp/B00GWRKUZU/ref=pd_sbs_147_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00GWRKUZU&pd_rd_r=FJBCS1578M5BBKNKQPBY&pd_rd_w=suOrZ&pd_rd_wg=K8ha7&psc=1&refRID=FJBCS1578M5BBKNKQPBY

>>61232210
they are safe but they don't have a very good lifespan

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>>61217671
I could have gotten a Memepad but this was a better choice for what I needed out of the laptop.

>>61219562
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ORICO-2-5-3-5-inch-Transparent-HDD-Case-USB3-0-to-Sata-3-0-Tool/32806688902.html
Get it while it's 50% off
So far the only thing I see as a drawback is I can't boot from it, but I'm not sure if its the laptop's fault or the dock's

>>61227248
Please tell me more, I'm with the stock configuration.
I've gotten the idle consumption down to 5.5W without fixing ASPM and a year ago battery life was pretty good with Windows 10, now two big updates to the OS later and it's shit.

>>61232389
>(((50%))) off
I bought an Orico enclosure for £20 on Amazon UK.
Once the sale ends that dock will still be £18

>>61232468
Could very well be true, all I know is it's cheaper than any 3.5" dock I can get from here so I'm not complaining, and delivery to the EU only took 2 weeks.

>>61215696
I just got a T420 and i love it
Wangblows7 wont run properly on 4gb, spend 20$ on a 4gb stick of ram.
Still waiting on my msata kingdian ssd. :^)

>>61216026
Careful not to get any on your monitor.
Cleaning gave mine a wetspot.
Gonna have to by a 10lb bag of rice to shove me e4300 in.

>>61232389
>>61214236
Pretty nice setup anon

>>61216400
>sudo apt-get install firmware-(brandname)

If one buys a thinkpad today how long will it last?
T410-
T420-
T430- 5yrs, someone said above
T430s-
T440-
T440s-
X200-
X210-
X220-

Use: 1-Code, Movies, Browse on Loonix
2- Same shit on windogs

please help, /tpg/
so i got an x220 off of ebay for a fuckin steal, 60 bucks, but every time i turn it off it turns back on, how to fix this?

>>61233392
it's pointless to try and predict, but it would require a major change in computers for any thinkpad from the last ten years to become useless. something on the level of usb type a or the x86_64 architecture being abandoned. thinkpads don't just up and die after a set number of years and cpu performance requirements have plateaued severely compared to ten years ago.

>>61233462
Disable wake on LAN.
That, or powercfg.exe /lastwake, then post results
Lastly, you could disable hybrid shutdown and hybernation by using powercfg.exe /h off

>>61211132
Aren't chinkpads chink botnet? Why did /g/ fall for it?

>>61233521
They are all botnets. Point is to never be of any worth to them, even if they spy on you.
The only thing they'll find on me is all the years of jerking off to futa

>>61232389
with ASPM and some other fixes this should be around 4W.
Start with disabling intel display audio in device manager

>>61233492
>>61233392
Wanna add to the other anon
These numbers are predicted with how Intel is doing but keep in mind Amd barged with ryzen and raven ridge
Being both a cpu and gpu manufacturer Amd might push the boundaries much faster both for cpu performance and igpu performance than Intel did in the past the 5 years

What I'm trying get at is with raven ridge we might see a rapid change in what is acceptable where anything older than might fall out of favor much faster

But to be helpful, if Amd doesn't completely revolutionize low power laptop performance, expect to get at least 5 years out of any laptop past Xx10 and the X201. Maybe a bit less with the Xx20 laptops due to their weaker igpus.

Also there is no x210, what you ask is a x201.

>>61233521
All core cpus are botnet anon.
Not just chinkpads

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Bought a 20FY0002US
Inb4
>Touch screen
>Win10
I bought it for 500 bucks as a open box model.

Gotta say, i'm enjoying it so far, only downsides are the degenerate who had it before me tore off the keyboard nipple and didn't put the pro pen back before he returned it.

So outside of having to buy these replacements I feel good about the purchase.

Also to anyone who's upgraded from 8 gigs of ram to 16, did you really notice it in the day to day use? How about if you went from regular ssd to M.2 , is it worth it?

Can I flash x200 bios on a x200s? Will it work? Can I libreboot x200s?

>>61232389
I need a dual HDD dock :/

>>61234027
just get a drive with fucktons of space and create two different partitions

>>61233918
M.2 is a format, it isn't faster than normal sata.

You are thinking of pcie nvme ssds.


As for the ram thing, it depends on what you do, if you are running out of ram constantly get the 16gb.

Got an x220 in on monday, and I've noticed that it has a hard time charging. The beep of the charger connecting-disconnecting happens frequently, so I'm pretty sure the reason is because the charging port on the x220 is weak somehow, and not connecting to the charger. I know it's not th echarger because my t410 charges fine.
Is there anything I can do to strengthen it or make it connect better, or am I stuck with it like this?

>>61234079
>You are thinking of pcie nvme ssds.
Ah good point, thanks for clearing that up.

>As for the ram thing, it depends on what you do, if you are running out of ram constantly get the 16gb.
Mainly for uni shit, my current coding class is making us use microsoft visual studio which just seems like a slow program overall (Even on my main rig) but outside of that just light casual gaming (Hearthstone/emulators).

Will you buy retro?

>>61234091
remove keyboard and check if the charging port is loose

>>61233392
I plan to underclock a T500, gonna pray it lasts near a decade?

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How do I remove the fake sim card now

>>61234132
Ram won't make things faster, 8gb should be enough.

Only the integrated GPU would benefit from faster ram.

>>61234151
Its going to be shit. The main thinkpad designer for almost 20 years left some weeks ago.

It's nothing but a marketing stunt. I don't get the hype, if Lenovo were to release a thinkpad with all the features fans want, they would cannibalize all their other sales.

/tpg/ is always the most informative non bait thread on /g/.
Good going anons.

>>61234305
I've removed keyboard and palm rest, but cant figure out how to access the port. Poking it with a screwdriver with mild force doesnt move it, so its not loose in the case. Do I have to take the motherboard out to check the cables?

>>61231527
Sounds like a dead backlight

Could be a problem with the inverter or the screen itself

>>61234730
yep the motherboard on the X-series is upside down so you have to remove it to get to the charging port plug

might as well reapply thermal paste to the cpu if you do that

>>61234554
Many would be satisfied with t420 with modern internals.

>>61234809
Speaking of which, how upgradable is a t420?

>>61234764
disassembled it and the cord connecting the power thingy to the motherboard seemed loose, though that may have been from me getting it out. put it back in tighter, and now reassembling it. Lets hope that it fixes the problem
>thermal paste
fresh out unfortunately, will reapply when I have more

>>61234863
The following things inside can be easily swapped:
Keyboard
Ram
Wireless chip
HDD
CD drive
Battery
Processor- since it is not soldered, but like a desktop, it is placed on a socket
Screen
Charing port
Backup battery
You can even put an Msata SSD
And an external Grafix card for dem Gamz and Muh Content Creation™

>>61234305
>>61234764
seems to be working better now
thanks lad(s)

>>61234554
Wait David Hill left?

>>61226369
can't unsee this...
also, clean your keyboard you filthy fuck

>>61211159
I have my x220 for a few years now. I really do not regret it. Only lately some software popped up I cant insall (direct x11) and as a unity game developer this kind of sucks, but I will see what to do about that

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>>61226369
FUCK YOU ANON...

>>61226488
If you want the new keyboard layout so deperately just buy a little newer one

What's the best modern 14" thinkpad?

X1 Carbon, T47x or what?

>buy T440p
>buy drive bay SSD caddy
>it doesn't work

I know the drive is working, but it isn't showing up in Device Manager or the BIOS. Don't have anything else I can put in to see if it's the caddy or the laptop that's broken either. Anything else I can do or should I just return the caddy and try a different one?

How dumb would it be to hackintosh my x220? Don't try to convince me not to.

>>61236026
T470 extended battery

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>>61211159
perfect shitposting machine

>>61236026
T series for maintenance and upgradability. X1 and T series s versions fall short.

>>61236093

No TB3 though..

>>61236062
use the disk manager, might just need to reformat the drive

if that doesn't work then;
take your main hard drive and put it in the caddy, leaving the main drive bay empty, it should boot up like normal

if it doesn't boot like normal then the caddy might be broken, if it does work then your new drive might be dead

if it does work then put your new drive in the main drive bay and leave your boot drive in the caddy and see if it recognizes it then

if new drive still isn't recognized then it's probably broke

>>61227248
>>61233765
What are these fixes you're talking about? Do they work on X220 too?
I know if you do a battery report on Windows it gives the ASPM warnings, searched the web but found nothing

>>61236078
post guide. Honestly don't know what all could go wrong...

>>61236078
Go for it

>>61236118
Yes TB3 though...

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>>61226369
FUCK

>>61236143
Can't see it in disk manager either. The drive is an old 840 EVO from my PC, I was using it this morning. Definitely not the issue. I'll try booting it with the main drive in the caddy, thanks.

>>61234151

yes

>>61235353
How about a T500?

I bought this for my ThinkPad W540 http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-For-LENOVO-T431S-T540P-W540-L440-L540-Touchpad-Trackpad-With-3-Buttons-Key-/. When I got it and put it in, it didn't work. Now, even with the old trackpad, neither Windows nor Linux will recognize the touchpad. If I go to the Device Manager in Windows, I have to show hidden devices to get it to show. It won't work no matter how many drivers, BIOS resets, CMOS battery resets, unplugging and replugging I do. The device manager gives me the error 24. Any help? i have some doubts if the trackpad is real or not

>>61236867
also feels like there are air bubbles inside of the touchpad which makes me scared that it's fake

>>61234448
drop of glue on a toothpick should work

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Just came in, looks fantastic. Not cosmetic damage and no internal damage either. Loving it so far.

>>61236962
T430?
post moar pics

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>>61236986
Yup, I'm loving it. I'm about to try a few different distros on virtualbox, since it came with Windows 10

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>>61237219
enjoy, anon

Sup /tpg/
I need that photoshop meme of that thick t61, the one with like a VHS slot, an install gentoo button and weeb stickers.

Hiya, could I get some help with my choices from you kind folks?

>Budget
Up to 300-ish Euros , would prefer to keep it around 200-250.

>Location
EU, Greece. Can be shipped to France too.

>Size
15'6" and above

>Performance
Read the guide and I quite like the W series 15'6" models but I couldn't find that many on e-bay that would ship here with reasonable pricing. I'd prefer something comparable to my current laptop, if possible? I like playing vidya but not very often and not extremely demanding, so stuff like New Vegas, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., at hardest. I have a Lenovo G580, has an i3 3110M @ 2.4 GHz, GeForce 710M. Having a SSD would be nice but I understand if it's gonna be a price stretch. The longer the battery life, the better, but I constantly travel around places with plugs so it's not that much of an issue, and neither is weight/size since I'm originally from a Slavic country and they make us carry fucking 30 kilos worth of books as children to condition us more easily.

>Other requirements
Very casual user, barely know how to replace components (current laptop looks like it's chewed on by a crocodile because i'm fuck-clumsy, not to mention having marks from a few x-acto blades because whoever made it glued the keyboard in). Are there any EU-based or at least EU-shipping used retailers, other than lurking on e-bay and praying?

Thank you and please don't eat me alive. Also, I know this isn't the stupid questions thread, but are SSHDs even worth it?

anyone else having an issue with their power manager? it quit working and Windows is always checking for a solution to the problem

copying from lain because this board gets more traffic:

OK, time for a serious security question. Last fall I bought a T420s (used, of course). After verifying that it turns on and everything, I shelved it. It's been sitting and collecting dust until yesterday when I finally pulled it out and opened it up. It turns out that CompuTrace is enabled and cannot be disabled. Fuck. I've never dealt with this shit before, so I'm not really sure how it works.

Does this affect me? I have seen conflicting sources - some say that it only infects Windows installations; others say that they have Linux capabilities as well. Does running Arch, as I intend to do, render CompuTrace impotent and inert, or will it still be able to infect my OS and phone home? Does it present any security holes?

I have read that by calling the provided number and explaining the situation I might be able to have the company deactivate it. If the computer isn't running Windows and it can only phone home through Windows, will it be able to be properly deactivated, or will it simply be deactivated server-side but remain active on my machine?

>>61216400
You need to add non-free repos to your source list and apt-get iwlwifi

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>>61237963
>tfw know what you're talking about but can't find it after like 20 mins of searching

>>61238142
have you looked at the W520 at all?

just ordered a 1920x1080 screen for my t520...can't wait to install it. anyone else done this?

>>61239088
should be as simple as yanking off the bezel, unscrewing like four screws at the corners and taking out the connector.
Then reverse all of the above. Thinkpad screen replacement is super easy.

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>>61237963
>>61239062
gotchu senpai

>>61229468
If you treat it well it should last at least several years. I recently got an X60 from '06 or '07---the HDD had failed, the battery doesn't last long, and it could probably use a new fan/heatsink, or at least some new thermal paste, but otherwise it works just fine.

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>>61239273
Still not as thicc as the G40
>his cooler doesnt weigh more than a macbook

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>>61239273
thanks

>>61236249
Oh just realized it's t470p without tb3. Wtf lenovo

>>61239273
thanks anon

>>61239110
yeah I shouldn't have any trouble with the screen, more wondering how the resolution looks, etc

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Need some advice.

Got an Intel T60 I want to libreboot, but the panel I have is on the "untested" list (HT14P12-100). Should I risk it and possibly brick a perfectly good classic thinkpad? Or give up on my Freedom Machine™?

>>61235583
Yes

>>61236078
It's one of the best ThinkPads for Hackintosh.

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I can't believe I ever wanted an X1, T460s / T470s is underrated as fuck

>>61236078
Literally the best computer to be hackintoshed.

Is x270 or x1 carbon better for school?
I know the specs in the 270 are better, but is it outdated in any way that will slow it back down? I like how the Carbon is advertised as very rugged, is this true??

X270
-------
i7-7500
16Gb
512Gb ssd

X1
-------
I5-7200
8Gb
256Gb ssd

>>61239561
I did find some encouraging info. According to

https://vimuser.org/libreboot/oldstable/20150208/libreboot_bin/docs/future/index.html

the failing panels appear to be 8bpc. The panel I referenced is 6bpc according to the spec sheet

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.beyondinfinite.com/lcd/Library/Hyundai/HT14P12-100.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiU4pvG2_PUAhVrxoMKHS7CBSoQFggNMAA&usg=AFQjCNGQE1-f_K7cnTQ4kjhfpQUdxnv-sA

like the "good" panels.

>>61240500
it depends on what do you want it for and your budget

Whats the best Thinkpad/Elitebook/Latitude i can get for around 500$?

My dad wants a new machine to replace his Latitude E5430, the issue is i think his budget is too small to really see a noticeable improvement in performance. He was looking at a lot of machines that were similarly specced to his machine he already has with the i5 3210m and 4gb of ddr3.
He wants 16gb and i reccomended a solid state drive which hes really interested in.

Im thinking T440/T450 at the very least, if his employer will give him a bit of cash for it hes very interested in a near maxed out T470.

>>61236078
http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/

>>61238142
t520/530

>>61239088
I hope it was the god tier tn display|

>>61240788
if his current machine doesn't have an ssd then anything with an ssd would have a huge performance increase...

>>61240463
it's bretty gud

>>61211132
NEW BREAD

>>61240904

>>61240788
t440p with 1080 ips display, maxed ram and some ssd

>>61240889
the part # is B156HW01 V.4

from laptop screen.com. did I fuck up?

>>61229285
How is having your Firefox coming preinstalled with toolbar homepages user friendly? Just download the Mate Version of Ubuntu or better-yet the Xubtunu iso and get the same shit minus the Mint cancer.

Mint is so shit, its worthless.

>>61241561
that as far as I know, they have been out of stock for quite a while. Did it say "compatible"? if yes, and not made by AUO, you got fucked.

>>61226114
but it can

>>61242136
hopefully I can tell when I get it. I did find it for sale here http://www.lcds4less.com/au-optronics-b156hw01-v4-screen-display-156-led-grade-a#product-tabs4
they say it's actually made by auo.

>>61226114
Well shit it does drive 2 monitors via DP, didn't even think about trying it, too bad I can't use the laptop's display at the same time.

>>61242269
no it can't
>>61242341
>too bad I can't use the laptop's display at the same time.
AFAIK you can. It's just you're either using VGA or internal screen.