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/wt/ watch thread

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This thread is about the appreciation of horology, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece.

>Required Viewings For Newbies:
https://youtu.be/_2J5phyd9J4

>Strap Guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

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>>61181028
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fiiiiiiiiiiirst
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18k bitches

BLING BLING
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you guys like my solid gold pocket watch?

made in 1888
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>>61197724
Movement pics?
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>>61197748
It's an Agassiz, which is an early Longines
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Just had it serviced, it keeps good time
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Nice
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The original owner had a custom non branded dial made for it, back then some people thought it was pretentious to display brand names.
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>>61197947
I have the original box though, it was made by "James Mix Jewelers" as a bespoke agassi

That is a swiss movement and would have been expensive, it would have been like buying a Rolex and having a dial made without Rolex written on it
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>>61197968
The box attracts dust but the watch itself looks like it was made yesterday despite being 130 years old
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>>61197915
looks good, is that a repeater?
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>>61197968
nice
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How much is too much to pay for a King/Grand/Superior Quartz? I'm quite liking some of the Quartz designs. I've not found a KS/GS of that vintage that I really found attractive yet.
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>>61198034
And to think Seiko took the mirrion rittre rinks of the Grand Quartz... and made them smaller. The absolute madmen.
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>>61197985
It's not, just a simple two hander plus sub second from Illinois watch co.
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>>61198019
Thanks, I don't know what to do with it though. I just wind it and fondle it sometimes, then put it away again, heh

I think it's interesting someone bought a solid gold watch then went out of his way to not advertise the swiss movement- but I have been told it was common to think displaying an expensive brand name was vulgar and pretentious
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>>61198052
>It's not, just a simple two hander plus sub second from Illinois watch co.

have you been able to get it regulated pretty well?
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>>61198073
It's my sister's; I haven't worked on it, but when I was timing it in the picture it was better than 30 spd, I believe.

Mine are the Hamilton and Columbus in this picture. They both run better than 30 spd last I checked them, though I've only regulated them in the dial down position.
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>>61198090
Derp
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>>61198097
Why do you have a gay pride watch?
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>>61198034
Are there any decent ones for around 100 big ones?
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>>61197947
>The original owner had a custom non branded dial made for it, back then some people thought it was pretentious to display brand names.

How reasonable were prices then?

I gripe at how expensive watches are. I hate how we almost can't buy non-overpriced pieces today. These things aren't that complicated.
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hammy
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>>61198612
>. These things aren't that complicated.

Today they are not that complicated. In 1888 there was no such thing as a practical wristwatch because the technology did not exists to make the mechanisms small and accurate enough. "Running like a Swiss watch" was a euphemism for something extremely complex and expensive. They were the iphones of the day. They didn't think anything of making the case solid gold for a swiss movement because they were so expensive already.

Adjusted for inflation I am sure they were as expensive if not moreso than they are today
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>>61198703
iPhones aren't that expensive relative to watches
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>>61198612
>I gripe at how expensive watches are. I hate how we almost can't buy non-overpriced pieces today. These things aren't that complicated.

Back then the watches were hard to make and justifiably expensive.

Today Rolex charges $2200 for just a stainless bracelet.

Watches have become nothing more than a status symbol, back in the day you could not buy a cheap accurate quartz, an expensive swiss movement actually was the most accurate thing you could carry with you
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>>61198716
>iPhones aren't that expensive relative to watches
That is true, back then if you didn't have a watch you had to go around asking everyone what time it was. there were not digital clocks on every dashboard and microwave and phone in sight. A swiss watch back then would have been totally unobtainable for most people. I guess the equivalent today would be like a luxury car
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>>61198062
Yeah, it's sad. Wristwatches are much more usable.
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>>61198612
>How reasonable were prices then?
You could get a big steel american made pocketwatch that was not very accurate for a price a working man could afford. Solid gold accurate swiss watches would have been at a whole different level
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>>61198763
>Yeah, it's sad. Wristwatches are much more usable.
I wish I could use the thing but carrying around a gold pocket watch today is beyond fedora tier, it would make you look insane

I mean I can't even use it as a dress watch once a year, it's too out there
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>>61198781
i wear a steel dress watch everyday with jeans, most people don't really give a shit dude.
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Does anyone cut the smaller strap off their NATO? Seems kind of pointless for day to day use
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g-shock shitter here, trying to decide between a mudman and a dm5610. which should I get?
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>>61199465
5610.
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>>61199576
I was seriously considering it, but I've already got the dw5600, and the mudman seems to have the closest set of functions to the 5610. I'm just not sure how I feel about the bulkier look of the bigger g shocks.
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>>61198781
>I wish I could use the thing but carrying around a gold pocket watch today is beyond fedora tier, it would make you look insane

Yeah as the owner of a nice Waltham pocket watch myself it bothers me that atheists have completely ruined them for any sort of usage. Obviously I wouldn't want to take it every day but even shit like formal dinners or church where pulling out your phone (or even having it with you) is rude, I couldn't look like anything other than a cringey, Steampunk-larping Fedora.

I love pocketwatches in the general since as they're all manual wind and they often have big, well decorated movements, you can really get a close look of all the craftsmanship that went into them and also see how they operate a lot easier compared to more compact wristwatch movements.

The only bright side to atheists ruining pocket watches is that the market prices reflect this and you can even get absolutely stunning Vacheron Constantin and Patek pocketwatches for relatively cheap.
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>>61199696

I'm not sure how not believing in god wound up ruining pocket watches for the general public but I can't deny it did.

I don't believe in magic but I don't wear weird shit and talk about it all the time and ruin shit for people, I just don't believe in magic
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What's the gayest watch I can buy?
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>>61199951
apple watch
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>>61199951
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>>61199951
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>>61199612
GWX-5600

Does everything a DW/GW does but also displays the tide.
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>>61199985
>the essence of Rolex
Bleurgh.


What happened to tasteful designs!? The average anon would probably be able to design something far better than that.
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>>61200193
Lmao. Wish I had this on my last snorkeling trip.
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>>61200239
Rolex did not do that, they won't modify their watches that way.

Some person paid an independent jeweler to void the fuck out of his rolex warranty to create that monstrosity. Rolex won't even service (clean and lube the movement) of a watch that has been modified like that if you pay them
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>>61199985
Those flaky gold chronograph registers would look cool on a regular black dial Daytona.
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>>61200276
>Those flaky gold chronograph registers would look cool on a regular black dial Daytona.
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>>61200270
>Rolex did not do that

I have some bad news for you.
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>>61200399
no fucking way
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Is there any reason I shouldn't get an F-91W ?
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>>61200603
This exists.
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>>61200632
But what is it?
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>>61200399
kek
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Is Braithwait ok? Their automatic is $595. I could buy a Hamilton for that price.
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>>61200806
Casio W86
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Looking for a tool watch, /wt/.
A diver with a nice rotating bezel.

I've been looking at three options:

1) Sinn
>decent-looking BUT crappy bezel actions

2) Damasko
>god-like bezel action and in-house movements BUT they all look like bland dogshit

3) Tudor Pelagos
>nice looks, movement, bezel action BUT a bit pricey

Any recommendations?
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>>61201126
What makes it better?
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>>61199167
What do you mean by "the smaller strap"? The short one with a ring at the end?
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>>61200022
moar liek indigay amirite?
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>>61201316
1 vote for Tudor BB
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>>61201649
Nah, too flashy and submariner-like.
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>>61201316
Pelagos or one of the nicer Seiko Tunas would probably be my pick in that price range. The Seiko Transocean looks kind of nice too, I love Seiko divers. As far as Sinn I think the U1 is much nicer looking than those weird pilot-diver hybrid things.
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Why are Seiko penis quartz watches so highly regarded?
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>>61201854
They're high quality jeweled movements designed to be durable and serviceable. Modern quartz movements are typically made to be cheap and disposable, in the penisquartz era quartz was still a hot new technology so Seiko actually put some effort into the movements.

I wouldn't really call them highly regarded though, at least not outside of our shitter enthusiast general. Watch people generally dismiss anything quartz.
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>>61201963
>Watch people generally dismiss anything quartz
Seems a bit odd, personally I'm trying to amass a collection of every common movement type.
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>>61201662
>Nah, too flashy and submariner-like.
How in the fuckity fuck is the black bay more flashy and subby like than the Pelagos

they are basically the same watch
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>>61201392
Better water resistance, not as cliche & it has a far better light as it has electro luminescence rather than a shitty single led.

Pic is a comparison between the 2.
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>>61202020
The black bay is more flashy than the Pelagos because it has tons of polished surfaces both on the case and the dial, while the Pelagos has exactly 0 polished surfaces anywhere (outside of the crystal).

And the black bay is more subby than the pelagos because the dial and hour marker layout are pretty much identical to the submariner, while the Pelagos has the square markers and chapter ring that partly wraps around the markers.
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>>61199167
Just buy a 1 piece strap then dickhead.
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>>61202053
Good explanation, thanks anon.
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>>61201479
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>>61202092
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Is Nomos a meme or fedoracore?
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>>61202126
It's a redditcore meme.
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>>61202177
What is the (approved) alternative?
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>>61202210
Anything that isn't that tired boring Bauhaus shit. At least until Seiko comes out with a Bauhaus watch, then we're really going to have to step up the cognitive dissonance.
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>>61202228
>At least until Seiko comes out with a Bauhaus watch
AHEM

Also, the problem with Nomos isn't so much that it makes bauhaus watches, but that it ONLY makes bauhaus watches.
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>>61202126
Nomos is fine depending on the model. The neomatik movement looks like cool technology and models like the orion is a perfectly good dress watch if thats up your alley.

Id shy away from basically everything else.

>>61202228
Also this.
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>>61202261

Thats not bauhaus. Thats distinctly japanese.
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>>61202287
ARE u 4 REEL NIGGA
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>>61202299
Id definately call them minimalist but I think the stark contrast between the dial and the small seconds dial ruins the bauhaus aesthetic and instead brings my mind to the japanese flag.
The polished surfaces, hands (especially the red one) and steel bracelet does not help either.

I think it really looks like japanese minimalism.
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>>61202626
Oh and off-center subdial doesnt help either.
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>>61202626
Wabi sabi watch when???
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>>61202761
Wabi sabi explains what im feeling actually.
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Do you wear your watch as tight as the president does?
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>>61198476
$10000? Well under that. But that's what I'm asking: what's a vintage K/G/SQ in good condition worth?
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>>61202908
I'd err on the side of Reagan.
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If anyone's interested there's a lemania 5100 speedmaster for sale on timezone for 1750
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>>61202000
Neat, what types have you got?
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>>61203065
It would be fine if it wasn't a beaner version.
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>>61202993
How do people wear their watches upside down and not accidentally slam them on the table every time they sit down? The clasps on all my bracelets are the first thing to get scratched to shit.

>>61203135
What's wrong with beaner day wheels?
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>>61200823
Dogshit
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>>61203189
>How do people wear their watches upside down and not accidentally slam them on the table every time they sit down?

They don't. But it's a Rolex in the Gipper's case so who cares.
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>>61201697
>The Seiko Transocean looks kind of nice too, I love Seiko divers.
On the one hand there's a lot about the design that I like. And Seiko does have solid pedigree when it comes to dive watches.

But on the other hand it's almost too nice, and I have this nagging feeling that the transocean is trying to seem nicer than it is. I really want to be wrong about this though, so don't hesitate to correct me.
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>>61202626
>>61202287

It's Bauhaus you autist.
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>>61204125
Fuck off. Its not you poorfag
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>>61203308
But why?
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>>61204243
What?
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>>61204000
I haven't seen one in person so I really can't help you much with that. I am sort of curious to find out how the ceramic bezel looks in person and how it holds up, I think it's the first time I've seen a Seiko with a ceramic bezel. They have been using ceramics for a while on the Tuna shrouds, though. And by all accounts the diashield coating really works and resists scratches really well. So it's definitely got some higher-end features at least. And nobody has ever faulted Seiko on their fit and finish quality at every price range.

It's also like $1000 for a 6R15 which seems a bit steep. It's arguably about equivalent to an ETA 2824 I guess, but it's a plain 21,600bph movement that you can find in $300 watches.
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>>61204640
I tried one on at a local store.
The ceramic bezel is kinda glossy without being outright shiny.

When the watch is on the wrist the bezel hides most of the polished case, so that tones down the flashiness. But then the hands and indices are polished, so it's probably not very "tooley".

The movement is a little pedestrian, but Seiko seem to be upscaling it. And the low beat rate means you can go 10 years without service.
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>>61204824
>But then the hands and indices are polished
Only around the edges though.
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>>61203116
An Accutron, shitty Timex quartz (weekender), and a shitty Chinese automatic so far.
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>>61205060
Cool, what's next?
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>>61205107
A better quartz and automatic, then a slim manual wind. Also keeping an eye on those Omega hummers. I'm trying to find watches I'll actually wear, not just own.
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>>61205139
Like one of these? >>61187100
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>>61204640
>And by all accounts the diashield coating really works and resists scratches really well.
Only slightly, this is only 5 months of desk marks.
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>>61205250
Hell yeah. Sometimes I see them pop up for sale at prices I can consider.
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>>61203189
It becomes a bit of a nuisance, but less so than half the time having to twist your wrist 720 degrees because the loose band has let the watch face fall off to the outside of your arm and is not easily readable at a glance.
But unless your watch is huge it isn't an issue, and at this point, years after having to wear a band that didn't fit me, I still prefer wearing my watches upside down.
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>>61205259
What watch is that?
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What you think for $65~ usd?

It is a seiko 7S26-6000
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>>61205346
SARK005
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>>61205381
Or this, i cant decide. Same price range
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>>61205381
You can find better at that price, but if you like that one, it's not bad. Be sure not to buy from India.
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>>61202053
15 millimeters thick though. Try W-59. Waterproof but 9mm only.
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What are some recommended models and brands for pocket watches
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>>61205645
Omega
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>>61198043
What model is this? Or models like it?
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>>61205430
My daily driver.
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>>61201316
I've owned the 556i and the 104, the 104 gets my vote, even though it's not hardened steel (the finish is impeccable.

Although I'm extraordinarily fond of my Tudor BB. Whether you choose the ETA (which is so modified, it's a husk of an ETA), or the in-house, you'll be pleased.

The 41mm 104 and BB suit me fine.
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I've also just got the Hammy Intra Matic 68 in, although they forgot the confounded date-pusher on all 1968 of the LE's.

The highly-modified 7753 and 100M (which simply means I can swim with it in my pool) were attractive selling points.
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>>61205432
Show me better for this price?
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Got a plastic Agat for my next service/restoration project. I actually plan to use it to time my movement cleaning machine. Now I have to swap the watch I'm wearing for my F-91W that can't display the stopwatch and real time at once.
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>>61206448
Check eBay and Etsy, watch out for poo in the loo.
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>>61206197
Is the bezel action on the Sinns as sloppy as people say it is?
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>>61205627
That's because of the EL backlight, it doesn't feel thick on the wrist though. It's so light it makes no difference.
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>>61207405
on my 104 is was extremely crisp. the 556 didn't have a bezel, maybe the tegimented Sinn bezels are sloppy
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>>61207463
I mean the backplay. How much you can wiggle it backwards after it clicks.
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>>61204824
usually I'm not fond of Seiko, they're so monotonous and dreadful, this Transocean is delightful
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>>61206293
What's that a tattoo of on your arm?
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>>61204640
a $1000 ETA has been been modified, and you at least get 28,800bhp

today's entry-level and even presage = 6r15/4r36. very sad. very cheap.
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from yesterday... my sub-100-dollar automatic for dress.
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>>61207487
It's really something alright.
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>>61205107
oh it's nice to see a longines. you have courage to post that here. I'm surprised the Seiko-Nazis haven't torn you asunder for it.

truly gorgeous Longines.
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>>61207521
That's a nice Tristar, but it's definitely not dress.
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>>61207524
desu I may buy one, I'm going to look at the specs
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>>61207521
>that radioactive green dialled shitter
>for dress
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>>61207491
it was a tattoo of the first confirmed kill I had (just a copy of the official paperwork essentially), not something I'm proud of
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>>61207368
Im from nz so shipping makes it not worth it
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>>61207597
Would you mind posting a pic of the full tattoo? If not that's fine.
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>>61207626
Ah damn, sorry Anon.
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>>61206293
Panda dial chronos are patrician tier. Would be better without the date though.
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>>61207566
-6r15 movement
-sapphire glass with AR coating on the inside
-all ceramic bezel
-diashield scratch protection on the case and bracelet
-43 mm across the bezel (case itself is 45 but it's hidden behind the bezel, which is a very cool effect in its own right)
-13.8mm thick

I love the design, but I wish there was a nato option.

I particularly love the fact that the 3 o'clock hour marker isn't replaced by a date window.
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>>61207550
Max hetzel watches are always welcomed here.

In general there are some pre-school longines that are decent but swatch has positioned them in this weird place where they're much more expensive than Tissot but not particularly nicer. I'd have loved if longines had been positioned as swatch's datejust killer, instead of that being blancpain, I guess.
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>>61207550
I want to get an ultra quartz, but the dial and case designs are all hideous. The quartz transitional period has so many unfortunate combinations of very interesting movement techs and ugly TV cases.
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>>61202092

here's a water resistance chart
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>>61205107
Just bought a Seiko Lord Quartz.
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Sinn 356 UTC.

My white whale.

Saw it for sale twice in two years, and I was beaten to the punch both times.
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Are there any modern quartz movements with a smooth sweep second hand?
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>>61208970
The closest out there are the bulova 262kHz movements. Really the seconds hand steps at 16Hz but it looks pretty smooth.
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>>61208991
That's what I was thinking, unfortunately I'm not too fond of Bulovas modern dial designs. Thanks Anon.
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>>61208970
Seiko spring drive
Piaget 700p
Bulova precisionist (16hz)
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>>61209013
>Piaget 700p
Interesting, I'd not known of these.
Is the spring drive technically considered a quartz movement, or does it fall into the hybrid category?
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>>61209029
Spring drive and 700p both use a quartz crystal to regulate the timekeeping. The average modern quartz watch uses a stepper motor to advance the second hand, but not all quartz watches do. For example, spring drive, Piaget 700p, accuquartz, luch 3055, Omega f8192, etc. There's also watches the Seiko 5s21/5s24 that have a stepper motor but add a dampening system.
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>>61209088
Neat, I knew about a few of those, but the Luch (very surprised) and Omega models are new to me, thanks.
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>>61209029
I'd say a hybrid is a more accurate way of describing the spring drive.
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>>61209120
It certainly is a fascinating movement. I hope they continue to evolve it; perhaps some of it might trickle down to models I can consider purchasing.
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>>61199576
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>>61209120
I have to be honest I've never understood the obsession with calling the spring drive a hybrid movement - the only thing the spring drive has that a traditional mechanical watch has and a traditional quartz watch doesn't is that the energy is provided by a mainspring.
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>>61209271
You could also say the only thing different about a spring drive from a mechanical is instead of a pallet fork you have an electromagnetic brake. This is why trying to boil down exactly what the movement is in a few words doesn't work.
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>>61204824
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>>61209303
And a balance spring, but I take your point, fair enough.
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>>61205381
You could buy a brand-fucking-new one at that price.
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>>61209271
it's a littttttttttttttttle more complicated than that.

you basically have a glorified quartz. frankly I'm surprised you don't know your own movement better than that desu.
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>>61209341
There's something in a spring drive that's in a traditional mechanical and not in traditional quartz besides a mainspring as an energy source (and a winding rotor, if you want to be pedantic)? Or am I misunderstand info your point?
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>>61209384
Precisely (ie the power reserve unit and tri-synchro regulator)

we might even find a coil or two, I'm not sure
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>>61209341
I honestly wish Seiko would move this down to non-GS watches. It actually doesn't fit the luxury segment. Nobody would buy high-end SD since only Seiko can service it, and probably will have to replace electronic parts entirely. It's not even sure if parts for old SDs will be available decades from now.
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>>61209880
The spring drive is the darling of seiko, it's in their $300k sonneries. I doubt they'll discontinue it anytime soon.
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>>61200603
>Is there any reason I shouldn't get an F-91W ?
It's plastic shit.
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>>61209880
They have had Spring drive prospex, gallante and ananta for a long time.

>It actually doesn't fit the luxury segment
wat


>Nobody would buy high-end SD since only Seiko can service it,
double wat
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>>61210123
They have customers but it isn't very desirable.
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>>61210182
Nigga wat? The probably sell more spring drives than mechanical GS. All the cool gears and shit but you don't have to set it every week.
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>>61210289
Low volume though.
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What does this symbol mean on Seikos?
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>>61210387
Daini
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>>61210396
Thanks.
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What do you think of my watch? Haven't used it in a year, wrist grew from gainz and now I need to get it adjusted.
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>>61210664
>Michael Sharts
>Michael Marts
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>>61210709
>being broke
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>>61210664
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>>61210123
fuck off ninefag
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>>61209880
Only Rolex can service their watches and that doesn't seem to stop anyone. Most high end watch companies are clamping down on independent watchmakers since I guess the profession isn't already suffering enough.
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>>61210878
Rolex is getting ridiculous, you almost don't own it, you rent it.

I like the submariner but there's too much bullshit surrounding it for me to enjoy having one
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>>61210878
>Only Rolex can service their watches

Nope. They've clamped down on independant parts accounts but they still exist plus you have many millions of parts already on the market.
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>>61211014
>Nope. They've clamped down on independant parts accounts but they still exist plus you have many millions of parts already on the market.

Try buying a new rolex movement or a 2015+ bracelet

just try to find one on the internet anywhere for sale
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>>61211122
Do your arms get tired moving the goalposts?
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>>61211343
>Do your arms get tired moving the goalposts?

?

break bracelet, go to anyone but Rolex Authorized Repair

impossible to repair

that is a direct refutation of your incorrect evaluation of what is happening, not moving the goalposts
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>>61211368
Good to know so I guess I didn't have my watched serviced by an independent then.
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>>61211377
Is Omega Rolex?

stop moving the goalposts

If you break a new Rolex bracelet and need a new one Rolex requires the Authorized Dealer to send the broken bracelet to the factory for destruction before they will send a new bracelet.

You literally cannot buy one, they don't exist as parts on a shelf
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>>61200823
Another brand attempting to follow in the footsteps of Denzel Washington aka just another "minimalistique" shitter brand made for 50 cents in China. Skilled hard on WUS with all their banner ads there.

Just another brand trying to make a buck off some undiscerning retard during this current trend.
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>>61211430
>Is Omega Rolex
No, but that Rolex Explorer II sure is.
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>>61199951
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>>61200270
They also made the monstrosity that is the rose gold jube-jube yachtmaster
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>>61211122
>Try buying a new rolex movement
Why the fuck would rolex ever sell complete whole movements of theirs to anyone? Aegler is not a movement manufacture like ETA and others, it's Rolex SA internal use only.

What kind of argument is this? Watch repairers would only have parts accounts, not whole movement accounts, and these independents are still out there in great numbers repairing shit all the time.

Wtf are you on about?
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>>61211738
He said something stupid that is demonstrably false but instead of just so "oh I guess you can have servicing done on Rolex watches" he has to double down and make himself look like a complete retard.
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>>61206470
These old stopwatches are pretty sweet
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>>61211846
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>>61210718
Do normals see Michael Kors as a status symbol?
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>>61212157
Normie see Rolex as status symbols so probably.
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>>61212235
At least Rolex makes good watches
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>>61210878
>Only Rolex can service their watches
Jewelers On Time always do the servicing essactly as factory especifications.
And in 1-2 years you keep having your 5000 dollars.
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>>61210996
Good cheaper brands with great value? I know they're still overpriced but at least you're not getting shanked as much.

Maurice Lacroix seems great.
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>>61210387
It means it god tier.
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>>61210664
Give your mom her watch back anon.
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>>61211430
>is Omega Rolex
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>>61209880
many people don't understand that Seiko only makes GS parts for a decade after discontinuation of said model. these aren't pieces (particularly the spring-drive) that anyone can work on, when the parts are gone.
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could you guys PLEASE explain to me why anyone would ever buy a mechanical watch?

good quartz watch:
>gains/loses 10-20 seconds per month

mechanical watch:
>gains/loses 10-20 seconds per DAY
>loses even more if placed next to a magnetic object

all bells and whistles aside, keeping time is a watch's main purpose. What's the point of owning something this unreliable at its main function?
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>>61213010
It's a white people thing, I wouldn't expect you to understand.
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>>61213035
i don't understand what being white has to do with buying a seemingly inferior product. that's just pissing money.

if someone has the money to drop 4+ figures on a timekeeping device that can't even keep time without babysitting it, wouldn't they be better off buying a good-looking quartz watch for 3 figures and dropping the rest on hookers or something?
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>>61213074
>i don't understand

I know.
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>>61213074
Why wear a watch at all?
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>>61213083
could you at least make an attempt to defend mechanical watches?
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>>61213092
>could you at least make an attempt to defend mechanical watches?

I definitely could.

But if you don't like them you don't like them, I'm not going to bother arguing with you. Same shit with grandfather clocks, JLC Atmos clocks, or anything else.
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>>61213010
The same reason this thread isn't a /g/ thread. It's a /fa/ thread.

Part aesthetics/status symbol. Most will shill it as "being able to appreciate the craftsmanship and engineering" but also dodging the fact that keeping time with gears and levers is a deprecated technology.
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Where does one find rubber straps with metal end links like pic related
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>>61213086
it's annoying having to pull out my phone every time i want to check the time, and i've worn watches my entire life, so being without one feels uncomfortable.

i'm asking this because i recently broke my regular watch, and am trying to find a new one to buy.

someone recommended me a seiko 5 along the way. i looked at its average reported time loss/gain per month, and noped out. why even bother buying and wearing something like that?

>>61213110
i like the aesthetics of many contemporary automatic clock brands, but are aesthetics all that mechanical watches have over run-of-the-mill quartz watches?

>>61213116
that makes sense, i guess
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>>61213010
Bragging rights and looking good.
These threads are /fa/ggotry.
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>>61213136
>i like the aesthetics of many contemporary automatic clock brands, but are aesthetics all that mechanical watches have over run-of-the-mill quartz watches?

To quote one Archibald Chesterfield III: "Quartz has no soul, it has a fucking battery. It's like Hillary Clinton!"
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>>61213136
>someone recommended me a seiko 5 along the way. i looked at its average reported time loss/gain per month, and noped out. why even bother buying and wearing something like that?

It's automatic. No need to replace the battery. But, then, you can just buy a solar watch or, if you want to dole out, Spring Drive.

But, yes, you recognize there's a market gap that isn't being filled for cheap, decently made quartz that doesn't have shit build quality. These things shouldn't cost anywhere close to a chink smartphone.
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>>61213211
http://imgur.com/a/6CNO8
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>>61213146
>>61213116
Look at all this fashion!
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>>61213010
>>61213074
What would you consider a "good" quartz watch?
Post an example.
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>>61213592
Ok, go ahead. Compare them. Just like how people here compare graphics cards, cpus, and builds. Make this into a /g/ discussion.
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>>61213757
>Ok, go ahead. Compare them.
You ask this like we aren't constantly comparing and rating mechanical movements in here.
Or case materials, lume quality, hand alignment, servicing, ...
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>>61213710
Not him but seiko 9F, oysterquartz, beta21, the various seiko penisquartz. I'm sure there are more that I'm missing.
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>>61213778
More /fa/ than /g/.
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>>61213778
Stop falling for the /fa/ bait bud, they're always here looking for (you)
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>>61213805
That's like saying pic related is more /fa/ than /k/.
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>>61213074
>if someone has the money to drop 4+ figures on a timekeeping device that can't even keep time without babysitting it, wouldn't they be better off buying a good-looking quartz watch for 3 figures and dropping the rest on hookers or something?
The thing is; we are surrounded by electric shit already. And a wristwatch is something you visibly strap to your body for extended periods of time.
It makes a lot of sense for such an object that almost becomes an integral part of your body to be a little more than just another piece of electronics.

Same reason people often wear expensive leather shoes instead of shoes made out of synthetic materials with rubber soles.

Also; time is probably the most important thing there is in life, and this symbolic aspect alone merits something that rises above all the electronic gadgets we already own.
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>>61213779
The 9F grand seikos are more than 3 figures, and the others are all vintage pieces with all the shit that comes with them.
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>>61213864
You're a fag
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>>61213836
Which it kind of is.

Watches, while they are impressive pieces of engineering, are valued more as fashion accessories than for their technological merits; even the ones that are made for the kind of person to jack off to technical specifications. Outside of some pretty specific fields where there's an actual need to need only move your arm a little and look at your wrist, the need for something to tell you the time is as well or better served by something else. A watch is otherwise a piece of jewellery, albeit one with slightly more practical use than most others.

As for that gun? Not much real use if you have need of a firearm in this day and age. A nice decorative piece to put above the fireplace, or interesting curio if you're into the history of firearms. But in practical terms, if you need to shoot, far less useful than even a bolt-action rifle, never mind a modern semi-automatic.
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>>61211611
So I should just buy a Seiko?
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>>61214232
Nothing wrong with that.
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>>61207889
>Hideous PCB layout
>Horrific soldering
>Antediluvian technology

Just how old is this watch? From the 70's?
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>>61214260
>Antediluvian technology
>Antediluvian

Is this from a Webster's newsletter or something?
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>>61214138
>Which it kind of is.
No, it isn't.

As with mechanical watches, even the ornamentation on old guns does serve a practical purpose: to show the skill of the creator.
If the ornamentation and style of the gun / watch is solid, you could be fairly certain that the thing would shoot / keep good time.

>Watches, while they are impressive pieces of engineering, are valued more as fashion accessories than for their technological merits
"Fashion" implies fleeting trends, while the most prized watch designs either are pre-quartz icons themselves, or based on them.

>A nice decorative piece (...) But in practical terms, if you need to shoot, far less useful than even a bolt-action rifle, never mind a modern semi-automatic.
In practical terms, very few people who shoot actually "need" to shoot.
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>>61214260
The longines 6512 is actually from the 70s, yes.
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>>61214348
>As with mechanical watches, even the ornamentation on old guns does serve a practical purpose: to show the skill of the creator.
>If the ornamentation and style of the gun / watch is solid, you could be fairly certain that the thing would shoot / keep good time.
Which is all well and good, but whether the watch is well-made or not is besides the point; a mobile phone will keep better time than any watch, wearing a watch anyway is 99% of the time going to be for its decorative value.
As for the gun, being a well-made breech-loading flintlock is all well and good, but a plain halfway modern bolt-action is going to shoot better.

>"Fashion" implies fleeting trends, while the most prized watch designs either are pre-quartz icons themselves, or based on them.
"Fashion" is the wrong term then; "decorative", maybe. It's the same as a ring or a necklace or other jewellery; not as fleeting as norms in clothing, but still wanted more for its looks than anything else.
>In practical terms, very few people who shoot actually "need" to shoot.
Certainly true, but even among those who just want to shoot for its own sake, a breech-loading flintlock is impractical.
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>>61214504
With the gun analogy the people who shit on people that prefer mechanicals is like the retards you meet at gunshops (or on /k/) who are evangelists of the 3tactical5me lifestyle and go into autistic fits if you use an old S&W revolver for defense instead of their GLOCK™ brand GLOCK™ Perfection™ pistol or their AR tactical weapons platform brand modular system that they have 7 flashlights bolted onto, with things like pic related pissing them off that someone would prefer it to their soulless plastic dogshit.
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>>61214138
>>61214348

I'll be fair. Ornamentation on weaponry is /k/. Also, you don't really wear a gun per se to even remotely be /fa/. It's perfectly fine to talk about the non-functioning parts of weapons in /k/(, arguably, being aesthetically pleasing is also a function,) because it's part of their culture. However, /k/ != /g/.

While we do have our fair share of ricing threads and guts and cases, they serve as a natural extension of the rest of the board culture - which is mostly computers. Much of the discussion about watches on the other hand, do not. While they, themselves, certainly are /g/ objects - they are technology - the talk about them in these threads mostly revolves about their peripheral qualities - their design, their value retention, their collectivity - which make them more /fa/.

You ask yourself, does this topic really fit in with a board that talks about Gentoo, RMS, smartphones?
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>>61214772
Well, that's fair enough. I still think that beyond a certain point, decoration - be it on a gun or a computer desktop or whatever - is if not "fashion" exactly, at least more about showing off how it looks than having something you like the look of.

I'm certainly not saying "no-one should wear watches" or even "if you wear a watch it shouldn't be mechanical". Just that in the age of fucking everything telling the time, wearing a watch is definitely more about having jewellery than about having something functional.
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>>61214504
>whether the watch is well-made or not is besides the point
Not when you're talking about mechanical watches.

>a mobile phone will keep better time than any watch
Even mobile phones have a "design" to them that goes beyond the purely practical value.

>It's the same as a ring or a necklace or other jewellery
Except for the extremely intricate machinery inside that tells time from a strip of metal coiled up by the movements of your body.

>wanted more for its looks than anything else
You mean like a vast proportion of clothing in general?

>even among those who just want to shoot for its own sake, a breech-loading flintlock is impractical.
Shooting as a hobby is in itself impractical.
ANY hobby is in itself impractical.

>>61214772
>/g/ is for computer stuff
Fuck off.
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>>61214864
Again, on old-world handmade pieces like mechanical watches and flintlock guns, decorations did serve a practical purpose: they demonstrated the creator's skill and were thus a testament to the functionality of the piece.

Not to mention the purely practical purpose of surface finishing like bluing and anglage.
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>>61214864
>Just that in the age of fucking everything telling the time, wearing a watch is definitely more about having jewellery than about having something functional.
Wrong.

I wear a mechanical watch primarily to tell the time. And even my lowly 6R15 is off by only a few minutes every month, so it serves its purpose just fine.

But since this is something that's strapped to my body day and night for years and years, I'd prefer this particular item to have a little more heart to it than my TV remote.

And fyi, the accuracy pursuit for mechanical movements is still very much ongoing.
Modern technologies like MEMS, silicon springs, CAD, ceramics, ... mean mechanical movements are more accurate than ever.
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Once again you retards take the same tired fucking bait, stop replying to that shit.
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>>61214327
>or something
In a thread where everyone should know what ante meridiem means it should follow people should realise what antediluvian is without having to resort to Google.
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>>61215079
I do know what it means, I was mocking someone using a big, obscure word for the sake of it.
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I've been staying out of these threads since they've been getting shitty recently especially on weekends. If you're around vintage seiko man, what's the name of your solar radio band seiko again? The LCD one.

Also still can't get in contact with Shane. I missed my drop off opportunity so I guess I'll mail it to him. Any idea on how you pay him when you mail it?
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I'll be going abroad to the sea for a few days, /wt/ and I need a watch:
>at least 100m WR
>atomic (DCF-77)
>LCD or analog/ana-digi with a classic, legible style (eg. WVA-M630), none of this Eco-Drive subdials up the ass bullshit
>poorfag low price

I'm thinking some G-Shock or a three-hander Citizen/Seiko I don't yet know of. If I can't find any I'll just either wear my Amphibia and sync from phone or get a DW5600E, MDV-106 or a Mission Impossible Casio and forget about atomic sync.
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>>61215771
See
>>61199576
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>>61215798
Alright then. Might be too poor far that even, I'm East-Yuropooor and it would take a noticeable chunk out of my monthly pay, for a watch I'd only need once a year. Still, I'm tempted and might just go for it.
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>>61215828
It's a great watch, I wear it on holiday and for DIY etc.
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>>61215093
So you're that type of guy.
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>>61215771
Casio Oceanus
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>>61215975
>So you're that type of guy.

And proudly. I can't stand pretentious, masturbatory /lit/fags who think they're super enlightened for finding big words in a dictionary.

Pic related, people who use "antediluvian" in conversation.
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Can someone spoon feed me why people call the co-axial the cuck-axial? Is it bad?
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>>61216182
It's very picky about how much oil you use in servicing, you have to take it to OMEEGA to get it serviced, and the services are mandatory and expensive.
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>>61216154
>finding big words in a dictionary
>not finding brobdingnagian words in what you read
Ouch, sucks to be a brainlet I guess.
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>>61215700
Yeah, I've been mostly staying away as well since these threads have mostly descended into pure fucking cancer.

The Seiko LCD digital is the SBPG001 and if you are looking for one, Y! Japan Auctions and patience are your only hope. Just be sure to search "Seiko s760" on there as the Japanese use movement codes rather than model numbers.

Shane takes internal email transfers for payment so that won't be an issue. Surprised he is still MIA though, I may try to get in touch with him this week myself.
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>>61216452
*Interac email transfers
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>>61216452
Alright I'll check the auctions. His voicemail said he was busy catching up on backlog for a while.

How much did you pay for that watch?
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New samurais look breddy gud
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>>61216479
$250 CAD plus shipping, they tend to go for ~15,000-20,000 Yen on Y! Auctions.
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>>61213211
Vintage Seiko penis quartz fills that hole, but you're right that there's nothing modern there.
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>>61216566
And you can get the radio signal fine?
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So I've found my Grandad's old watch, unfortunately it appears that it's not working (watch is pic related), given that this watch isn't working, I'd like to get it working, however, I'm not overly knowledgeble about watches.

My Father said that it might have automatic movement, but from vigorously shaking it, it didn't appear to have automatic movement.

I'm not sure what's wrong with it, and I don't have the tools to open it, so I'd like to know, if I were to take it to a shop, how much would it cost to get fixed, or at least, how much could it cost to get fixed.
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>>61212921
Is this true?
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>>61216707
back of the watch
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>>61216707

it literally says quartz on the dial, it's not automatic.
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>>61216707
Dude, read the dial. It probably just needs a battery change.

>>61216713
More or less. Keep in mind that parts will still be around for repairs after the 10 years, they just won't be making new parts after that. NOS parts will be available for decades.
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>>61212921
>>61216713
Grand Seiko only has a couple of basic movements: one basic spring drive, one basic hi-beat, one basic lo-beat, etc.
Movements remain in use much longer than "models".

And independent watchmakers (particularly in Japan itself) are likely to have parts long after the guaranteed availability period.
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>>61216789
Let's focus on SD. Independents can service those? Doesn't the tri-sync reg. have special parts?
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>>61216707
Replace the battery.
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>>61216808
They service spring drives in the US, so it's not THAT special.
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How good are solar watches? Heard here that they can last up to 50 years without service, in theory. I can live with that. I just hate replacing the battery.
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>>61216756
>>61216777
aah, sorry, didn't realize.
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>>61216134
This. Personally I'm going to get myself the OCW-S100-1AJF for Christmas.
Great watches.
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>>61216644
No problems getting a signal in Southern Ontario.
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Purely functional and durable tool watch, or insufferable shitter?
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Ive been through all the watches in the world and the red blackbay with leather strap is my fave along with the jaque droz charming bird (500k)

Rolex hits me at times but would have to try first
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>>61217931
Can't go wrong with the Jaquet Droz charming bird. I bought one two months ago, and the next day went back immediately bought the wife and kids one too.
They're just good fun and accurate, everything you need in a watch.
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>>61217974

Plz no bully, I am convinced I will get enough inheritance to buy one in twenty years time.
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>>61210664
>wrist grew from gainz

Is that so.
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>>61218020

Personally my wrist size varies so much from alcohol use that a metal strap will either slip loose or strangle me.
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>>61202261
I'm more an Obi guy myself, but that looks lice.
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>>61217974
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>>61217845
Why not both?
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Quick question.
Say im looking for a watch with a visible tourbillion that
A) is not shit at time keeping
B) is somewhat affordable (400 bucks tops)
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Bought a watch at an auction, old гeнepaлcкиe for 30 euros, I was finally able to pick it up.
Took it to a jewelry I know, guy checked the movement, everything perfect.
Didn't like the bracelet (check here if you want to see the old one: http://oportunityleiloes.auctionserver.net/images/lot/2503/2503335_0.jpg), so got a NATO one. Really great quality, with stitches instead of hot glue, couldn't be happier.
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>>61218105
u mad?
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>>61218185
No, are you?
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>>61218194
u mad.
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>>61218205
Why would I be maddy-poo?
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>>61218222
he mad.
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>>61218250
>posting funny meme pastas is now being mad
Okay kiddo. Whatever you say.
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>>61218313
> funny
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>>61218313
u so mad
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>>61218343
See, your too mad to apprecciatte humour.
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>>61218365
they mad.
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>>61218185
>>61218205
>>61218250
>>61218351
>>61218386
*slow claps*

*steps out of the shadows*

Heh... not bad, kid. Not bad at all. Your meme, I mean. It's not bad. A good first attempt. It's plenty dank... I can tell it's got some thought behind it... lots of quotable material...

But memeing isn't all sunshine and rainbows, kid. You're skilled... that much I can tell. But do you have what it takes to be a Memester? To join those esteemed meme ranks? To call yourself a member of the Ruseman's Corps? Memeing takes talent, that much is true. But more than that it takes heart. The world-class Memesters - I mean the big guys, like Johnny Hammersticks and Billy Kuahana - they're out there day and night, burning the midnight meme-oil, working tirelessly to craft that next big meme.

And you know what, kid? 99 times out of a hundred, that new meme fails. Someone dismisses it as bait, or says it's "tryhard," or ignores it as they copy/paste the latest shitpost copypasta dreamt up by those sorry excuses for cut-rate memers over at reddit. The Meme Game is rough, kid, and I don't just mean the one you just lost :^). It's a rough business, and for every artisan meme you craft in your meme bakery, some cocksucker at 9gag has a picture of a duck or some shit that a million different Johnny No-Names will attach a milion different captions to. Chin up, kid. Don't get all mopey on me. You've got skill. You've got talent. You just need to show your drive.

See you on the boards...
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>>61218425
u mad?
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stop being fagots and help me!!
>>61218142
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>>61218465
u mad?
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>>61218425
Hey man, if that's your collection, gr8 one. I already have 3, the one here >>61218155, a komandirskie and one that I don't know the name. My next one is going to be the one in the far right with the sub, the amphibia, cool af.
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>>61218425
>when you buy mountains of dogshit instead of one good watch
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>>61218694
>>61218694
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