/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

First for:
Muslc
Busybox
LLVM
Clang

Taking the hold from rms

>>61196923
BSD already tried that. Now they are sucking the dry cum out of Mapple's clang pipeline.

>>61196934
They didnt try anything,they migrated to clang

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>>61196934
been waiting to post this

>>61196943
lmao

Is it safe/proper to use rsync with sudo privileges? All the backup scripts I've seen have it called by the user, but I have files readable by root which I need to transfer.

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I'm unironically considering installing Gentoo because systemd appears to be something I should avoid. Please tell me if anything of the following is a misunderstanding:

- systemd centralizes a variety of functions that were previously handled by separate, interchangeable tools
- systemd generally works well and makes things easier
- systemd is found in all of the most common distros, and developers are now writing software with the expectation that systemd is present, breaking compatibility with systems that lack it
- systemd has massive scope, and understandably serious bugs are found occasionally
- systemd's lead developer is a massive douchebag and responds inappropriately to serious bugs and other legitimate concerns
- older init systems had various issues, but work fine overall

>>61197576
use calculate linux. gentoo without all the bullshit

>>61197446
If you copy permissions I don't see why it would be bad. Er, actually I don't know how that would map on the recieving side, it would probably just save it as the user. You should test it!

>>61197576
There's always Devuan if youre piss scared of having to compile all day long

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>>61197576
>developers are now writing software with the expectation that systemd is present
As someone who is currently working on a Wayland compositor, I really wish logind was present on more distros.
Managing that shit yourself is annoying and logind does a much better job.

>>61197576
Sounds about right. Although
> understandably serious bugs are found occasionally
I think people writing a project like systemd should hold themselves to a higher standard than typical software, but they are moving very fast and presenting themselves as a good system for servers as an alternative to systems that have been stable for decades.

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>>61197576
why gentoo, there are lots of other distros

>>61197576
letting go of ancient unix autism brings the linux system back into current year

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>>61197675
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>61197612
>actually I don't know how that would map on the recieving side
I use rsync locally, so no problems with that here. It does copy most permissions, provided you pass the -a archive argument.

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>>61196923
w h y

>>61197576
that's a pretty old thumbnail, dad

>>61197829
>what are some cool terminal commands

$ date -ud@1341558719
Fri Jul  6 07:11:59 UTC 2012

>>61197859
How to convert 64-bit timestamp? e.g. the one that uses milliseconds instead of seconds?

>>61197916

date -ud@$((1341558719638/1000))

Jokes aside, you can't. Unix time simply works only with seconds.

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>>61197829
Newfag.

>>61197955
does the job, thanks

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>>61197956
My oldest stallman.

>>61197955
>Jokes aside, you can't
Firefox sqlite databases use it for their timestamps- they use a function which supports it. I actually couldn't figure it out how to get this on Linux. You can multiply unix time by 1 million to get second-accurate(?) 64-bit timestamps, but you can't get exact accuracy with this of course.

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>>61197970
>being this new

>>61196885
what's a good GUI program for tagging flac files with artists, albums etc and adding album art?

>>61198017
puddletag, easytag

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>10 years gplv3
>linux still on gplv2
wtf linus

>>61198095
No, pls not this one. It's early in the morning. Slowly pls.

>>61198095
Linus is a person who had trouble installing Debian. He doesn't care about GNU, he's closer to adopting systemd/Linux and dropping GNU altogether. Linus also supports DRM, etc.

>>61197955

date [email protected]

>>61198143
>1974
a bit off

>>61198017
I write a script to strip vorbis comments from my flac files and write id3 tags instead.

>>61198095
He cares less about the freedom value of GPL and more about the development model. Anti-tivoisation clause introduced in GPLv3 is against his and his employer's interests

>>61198154
>1974
Oh. Heh. Whoops. That should have been only the last three characters after the decimal point, not four.

>>61198174
Perfect! How did you find this?

How do I work with C# on Ubuntu?

>>61198184
while :; vim project.poo; rm project.poo; done

>>61198182
A guess. I usually just delete the milliseconds.

Hi
Finally decided to take the plunge and install linux mint.
However, mint cannot connect to my wifi and when i plug a wired connection it still cannot recognise it.
I suspect the problem is in network drivers but I can get them because I don't have internet in the first place.
Wat do?

>>61199344
Check yo logs!

>>61199344

Stop using Linux Mint (shitty downstream distribution which is worthless).
Install Ubuntu (still downstream from Debian, but so much changed that it's considered a proper "core" distribution).

Post output of "lspci -v"

>>61198184

sudo apt-get install mono-complete

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>>61199384

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is there any guide to make awesomeWM as comfy as possible?
I really like it a lot. Would be nice to have some internet connection widget or shit like that.
I know that i3 has it by default, but i3's shortcuts dont feel so comfy to me

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I have a Windows 10 installation on my SSD and want to dualboot. It's installed with UEFI BIOS, however it creates no entry for boot on the boot devices (As in "Windows boot manager" I see on my laptop when looking for boot devices). I'm afraid if I try to install any Linux distro on this drive, its EFI will override Windows. What are my options?

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>>61199473
>I know that i3 has it by default, but i3's shortcuts dont feel so comfy to me
So change them? How dense are you?

In Arch, is it possible to download the pkgbuild for official (i.e. not AUR) packages and compile from source? I could just get the source from the developer but it would feel better if I had a pkgbuild file so it put the files in the same place Arch would.

>>61199434

It says it's using drivers (r8169) for the wired network device, so it's not a driver problem. That means it's a software problem, as in you're not connecting properly.

Post output of "journalctl --since=today -u NetworkManager".
and post status of "nmcli".

>>61200024

Look into ABS.

>>61199473

Internet connection widgets are window manager independent.

>>61200041
Nnoo?

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>>61200031
>requires svn
BUT I WANT TO USE GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

[spoiler]thanks anyway senpai[/spoiler]

>>61200087
>spoilers
DELET THIS

>>61200087

Use the asp tool from the official repositories. It uses git to fetch the PKGBUILDs.

What is the lvcreate command for making a complete . Copy of my / and place it into selected volume group?

dd if=/dev/zero of=./out.txt

will this fill drive space with zeros? or is that just theoretical?

Just a reminder that i all humans were nice all files could be chmod 7777 and and the need for permissions wouldn't exit

I hope this shithole gets demolished by aliums

>>61197695
I hate these fake PR pictures. You would go crazy for pain after sitting like that for two minutes.

>>61200615
All free space, yes.

>>61200652
But aliums destroying wouldn't be very nice either. This is the kind of reactionary thinking that brought about the post truth era.

My first Linux is gonna be Gentoo. How much suffering will I be dealing with here?

>>61200809
use calculate linux

>>61200856
the gentoo you love with none of the bullshit

>>61196885
>The Ungooglable Man
Please don't use terms like to "google" something with the meaning "to search for something on the web."
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Google

>>61200936
>none of the bullshit
this implies that there is bullshit in vanilla gentoo

How do I check which process is using up all of my bandwidth in GNU/Linux?

>>61201028
I'd say iftop & netstat.

>>61201039
I found out it was qBittorrent running in the background for some reason. No GUI, not even a system tray icon, just the process running in the background.

>>61200998
is there not? Who wants to compile all that shit? Just set it up and get on with your life

>>61201028
nethogs

>>61201098
welcome to gnu+linux.

>>61200996
> preaching to a re-poster
Do you ever take a moment to think about what you would like to achieve with your life?

>>61201028
>>61201039
>>61201161
damn, why doesn't have htop have some rx/tx columns

>>61201221
Because you didn't ask?

Thinking about adding the systemd issue tracker to my feed reader. It's like a daily soup.
>systemd vs posix
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6259

how to make wine *basic* secure?
should I make a dumb user, firejail or anything?

>>61202009
disable the Z drive and you should be set

>>61201818
poettering is right, linux doesn't care about posix.

>>61202217
this

I'm planning on getting back into Linux for educational purposes. Haven't messed around in it since back when Ubuntu was using gnome 2. Any suggestions for a good DE? Not necessarily going back to Ubuntu. I just hate gnome 3 and unity is not much better

>>61202457
KDE or XFCE

>>61202457
xfce and mate are nice. i use lxde personally and never have any issues.

>>61201818
>too lazy to parse User=123someone properly instead of using scanf("User=%u")
>rationalizes his own fucking incompetence by saying "standards don't matter"
why do we allow this man to be so relevant to GNU/Linux again?

>>61202457
mate is basically continuation of what gnome 2 was, so if you liked that, it's probably the best choice for you.

>>61202457
>I just hate gnome 3 and unity is not much better

try ubuntu mate. MATE desktop is basically a modern gnome2

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>>61202468
>>61202469
>>61202505
>>61202602
Thanks boys, those all look pretty interesting. I'll probably have to play around with all of them

>>61202457
use gnome 3 + dash to panel extension

>>61201129
>who wants optimized software?
Me

This may seem like a ridiculous question but on a headless level, is there even really much difference between distros? I have a server that focuses networking and I've been wondering if I ran a specific OS i'd get better performance.

If I was to say, run Debian 9, would there be network performance differences between the beforementioned and Ubuntu 14.04 for example? I'd imagine if you knew exactly what you were doing CentOS would be the best best once you've spent hundreds of hours tinkering but I'm focusing more on the "out of the box" experiance

>>61202470
Standards actually don't matter. If they would matter, we would have a closed ecosystem without evolution.

>>61202743
the difference is roughly the same as at GUI level. Same software, but different versions. Some distro-specific software are different (such as package mangers).

More differences come in if you install a hardened distro with hardened kernel, selinux, extra security settings etc.

>>61202758
there is no point in not following this part of posix

What's a really nice, minimal yet amply futuristic icon theme for XFCE/GTK? Looking to see what anons here use

>>61198095
>>61198141
>>61198157
I think the actually problematic thing here is that GPLv2 and GPLv3 are incompatible, which, at the end makes you use GPLv2 if you want to contribute. The whole problem would be easily solved if Linux would add the infamous `+' (or later) thingy, but, well. Everyone got his opinion.

>>61202470

You're not allowing anything, you're an irrelevant person who has no actual knowledge about anything. If you had you wouldn't be posting on here. You're a leech who is leeching of other people's work and saying "we".

>>61203021
this.

Since no or later version section they would need permission for everyone contributed to Linux ever to relicense it to GPLv3 as I heard. That's literally impossible.

Running arch on an old XPS M1330, runs like butter. One issue, the CMOS battery tray has broken, meaning every time you unplug the laptop or the battery dies, the time resets to the 90's. If I boot it and open a browser, I can't access any webpages due to the time being behind. Is there any way I can get the time to set itself every boot, based on locale or something similar?

>>61203021
>GPLv2 and GPLv3 are incompatible
why did they even do this?

>>61202734
LOL not like you could tell a difference

what happens to the linux kernel after linus dies? red hat takeover?

>>61203073
The meme ends and we go back to using a real OS.

>>61203073
probably the greg dude taking charge
but he's not going anywhere anytime soon

>>61203088
who the fuck is greg?

>>61203054

Use ntp to sync your clock on every boot.
I suggest using systemd-timesynd, because it's avialable and simpler than running the usual ntpd components.

>>61203055
tl;dr: Both, GPLv2 and GPLv3 don't allow "any further restrictions". GPLv3 adds restrictions against circumventing the GPL via stuff like DRM or "Tiviozation".

>>61203054
debian has an init script called "swclock" which sets the hardware clock to the last time your root fs was mounted.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/time#fake-hwclock
I think this is how you do it with arch.

>>61203106
>systemd

>>61203101
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Kroah-Hartman

>>61203106
>>61203115
thank you lads

>>61203125

He says while using said thing in his virtual machine that he boots up every fortnight to pretend he's Mr Robot.
He says while most likely still using Windows (proprietary software), equally "complicated" or "not POSIX" like, without complaining about that making him a retarded hypocrite.
He says without providing any arguments, but parrotting memes to appear smart.
Kill yourself, retard.

>>61203168
lol dude. my main machine is a chromebook running arch linux. don't even try to start shit with me

>>61201818

Check this
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6268

>>61203179
wew lad he uses arch don't mess with him ok?
btw i use arch just in case it matters

>>61203073
>red hat
I think Google and Microsoft are also valid candidates (both contribute LOTS to the kernel).

>>61203215
>Microsoft
the fuck

>>61203197
Well this happens when you "limit conversations" and close bugs in order to get rid of those "annoying reddit trolls": you get flooded with new issues.

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>>61203211
>>61203179

I won't mess with him, don't want him to hack us with his Arch. He's probably writing a GUI in Visual Basic on his ten meg pipe as we speak to track our IP down.

>>61203238

I would do the same. They most likely enable email notifications for the issue tracker on Github. Have you seen the traffic the tracker gets in replies? I'd hate to have to filter through emails and wade out the meme replies by idiots who don't know anything about it, but who saw a link to the bug and want to post in it so they get greens on Github's activity tracker.

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>>61203246
Don't worry, I found his source code

Just fell for the chromebook meme and I'm having a problem with booting in legacy mode, apparently if I let my battery go to 0% It won't boot anymore and I'll have to restore it, I read somewhere it is possible to setup the bios to boot in legacy mode by default anyone here can help me with that ?

I did a fresh netinstall of fedora 25 GNOME today. I am using a 5400 RPM HDD. When it boots up, it is very slow. Things load slowly and the mouse even just stops in the middle of moving.

What is this problem? What is the solution to it? I loaded up winblows and it works fine, while being a bit slow to load things for the first couple of minutes.

>>61203302
>writing html in hand
I hope they found a shitty font for this, because there is not enough money in the world to do this

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>>61203246
I think it's Comic Sans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTI0ovUMnyE

>>61203455
>>61203374
my hacking skills weren't enough to link these posts correctly, now they're just like two ships passing on the open sea

>>61203367

Did you install the GPU drivers?

>>61203634
No, but there are no reasons it should be this slow. I believe that noveua is included by default, anyway.

(I have a 1060 6G).

I did notice that it said the noveua driver was unable to create a kernel channel upon boot, however.

How to i clone a lvm partition? i want to make a copy of my root so i can restore it later, snapshots are no good for this since they only contain difference

>>61203752
e2image should be able to do it with the proper parameters.

is gentoo similar in maintenance once you build it to something like debian sid?

>>61203824
-it takes more time
-sometimes there are dependency problems/conflicts/blocked packages. You can exclude the problematic packages with --exclude while emerging and wait for a later day to see if they got fixed.

>>61203882
ok thanks

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Turning on networkmanager networking control outputs this, I guess it's just telling me the interface is activated but im pretty noob and kinda unsure. Does it need fixing? Is it a feature?

Arch novice here, really enjoying it and not encountering a lot of issues, but holy shit, is the dependency hell of AUR packages painful, you have to track down everything manually. Isn't there a way to automate this process like when using pacman?

>>61204054
Get an aur helper. I recommend aura, yaourt is also popular, for some reason.

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>>61204017
Actually it's spitting these lines out randomly without any prompt, any ideas? I'm on Debian 9
>>61203914

>>61204017
Nah, that's just broadcom being absolute garbage like usual

>>61203914
>>61204128
Holy fuck I have autism didn't mean to quote you sorry

>>61204139
Kinda annoying it spamming my screen, is there some way to fix?

>>61204171
writing a polite letter to broadcom corporation asking them to fix their drivers and hoping for the best.

or just changing the wlan chipset

>>61204102
I've heard about AUR helpers, I was trying to install pacaur but it has its own dependency hell so I got burnt out and gave up. I'll try out aura, thanks.

Do I really have to use something like date -r to get the modification date of a file? Bash supports [[ file1 -nt file2 ]], so it can read dates itself, so why isn't there a builtin method to retrieve it

>>61203332
go here and see if your chromebook is supported https://mrchromebox.tech/. Read up on what the 3 different categories of firmware you can flash.

I use seabios all the time and never had an issue with it not booting anymore

>>61204193
huh? pacaur is the best one and it is very simple. Just install cower (also from AUR) first and that's it

If I were to use linux as a server and wanted to cap maximum bandwidth visitors could use, how would I do that?

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>>61204188
Fuck me there must be someway to suppress command line output this is annoying

>>61204810
depends on every server program. For apache2 there is https://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/mod/mod_ratelimit.html for example. Other web servers have something similar too.

>>61204639
Hi thanks for the answer actually I was browsing the page you linked when I read your post, seems like I could get seabios on my chromebook but a lot of people are complaining about speaker overheating and/or touchpads not functioning etc, it really scared me off now

>>61204931
are those issues specific to your model? What model is it?

>>61204883
Is the kernel capable of doing a web server?

>>61204954
I have the Asus c300 -> Braswell (TERRA), apparently the support is still incomplete and some people here complained about hardware problems
https://github.com/GalliumOS/galliumos-distro/issues/270

>>61204974
Let me rephrase the question: Is the kernel itself capable of being a server without user space software like apache or nginx?

>>61205034
hardware failure is strange didn't know that was possible. Well you can easily restore chrome os if it doesn't work. You can even dual boot using chrx.

I've got tons of thermonuclear butthurt lately. No matter which distro I try, let it be bleeding-edge arch or user friendly mint, neither of them can find proper drivers for my laptop. No discrete video card drivers (except for proprietary), no lan drivers, no wifi drivers, even fucking sound drivers - "nope fuck you guy, stay muted" said it.
Suddenly i've noticed that some of them actually exist and work properly on OLDER kernels. What the hell? Isn't it supposed to develop forwards and not backwards over time?

>>61205223
Should've went for a Thinkpad but it's for my mom and she would find it ugly, fucking Google jews making it hard I swear

you know how in Alias, Marshall used an implied command line? how can i do that?

>>61205263
Did you try it with a custom kernel, compiled by yourself?

Try grabbing the latest kernel source from kernel.org, unpack it and do a "make menuconfig" then check the device driver section and relevant subsections if it really doesn't have newer drivers.

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If this is how RMS sees burds I wouldn't blame him for his actions

  The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:
    berkdb? ( dlz )

why does this happen? what do?
new to linux, pls no bully

>>61205713
berkdb requires dlz to also be used

um i did a pacman -Syu for the first time in a week and it only updated one package. Should I be worried?

>>61205756
Update mirrorlist
Change mirrors

>>61205713
>new to linux, pls no bully

do the society a favour and hang yourself.

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>>61205740
so do the USE flags have to be configured manually every time? wouldn't it make more sense for this process to be done automatically unless told otherwise

>>61205818
no u

>>61205944
>wouldn't it make more sense for this process to be done automatically
thats why there are 'local' and 'global' flags.

Where can I find the config files for x-server? When I log in to my user it goes to a black screen and I was told that deleting some of those files might fix it.

>>61206117
/etc/X11/

>>61206139
So do you think if I backup and delete these it would fix the problem with the corrupted user?

>>61206164
In most cases you no longer need an xorg.conf.
But yes try removing it if it exists and see what happens.

>>61206117
/etc/X11/Xorg.conf
/usr/share/X11/Xorg.conf.d/*.conf

make sure you only delete automatically generated and user created files and not the files installed by the xorg package.

>>61206187
I don't see a xorg.conf in /etc/X11/. But I do see conf files in /Xorg.conf.d/. By *.conf you mean all the files in /Xorg.conf.d/ that end in .conf, correct? Also, how can you tell if files are installed by the xorg package or not?

>>61205984
thanks, think i'm getting the hang of it. gentoo is comfy af and the community isn't full of narcissistic asshats unlike arch :^)

gotta love compiling dem nginx with -O4 -march=skylake

>>61205756

It's okay for an average Arch user.
See this screenfetch output. Only 2 packages means that they rarely get updated.

curl https://pastebin.com/raw/0akbv3gm

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>>61196885
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237

>>61206262
-you should know which files you wrote
-files generated the programs usually start with a few commented out lines stating this

>>61206346
>hence
>hence
>hence
>hence


Faggot sure loves this word

>>61206381
He's not a native english speaker I think

>>61206371
Alright, but why don't I have a xorg.conf in /etc/X11/?

>>61206431

There is no such file. In fact Xorg can autodetect configuration and you don't need any user configured files at all.

>>61206431
that's the legacy file, superseded by the other location.

>>61206394
I think he was talking about poettering and his pseud-tier word choices.

>>61206441
>>61206443
Oh ok. But if I'm in the /usr/ directory is this only for the user I'm currently logged in as? Because I'm using a new user right now while the other one is not working.

>>61204875
You could switch to a different vty in the short term (e.g.ctrl alt f2) you can also stop the kernel output going to the console at all with some command line parameter (it'll still be in dmesg and syslog)

>>61206605
No, /usr is global. It's called that for historical reasons due to network loading file systems on timeshare systems.

>>61206879
Tried to delete it and got "user2 is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported."

>>61207107
use "su" to get a root shell. then rm -rf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/

>>61207199
It gives me an authentication error but I'm pretty sure I'm entering the right password

>>61207107
>This incident will be reported
you dun fucked up big time

>>61207585
rip
>>61207270
Still need some help with this. Which password is "su" asking for?

>>61207694
The root password

>>61207694
Your root password. If you don't know what that is, congratulations, you get to muck with it by rebooting to GRUB and appending init=/bin/bash to the kernel command line.

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>>61206346
>615 open issue

>>61207711
ugh I'm so much of a newfag, how the fuck do I "append" something

>>61207838
boot liveusb
chroot
passwd
reboot

>>61207890
fuck man what the hell is a chroot

>>61207838
append means add at the end.

>>61207965
Change root, you temporarily change a directory to be the new root and whatever runs in the chroot cannot see what's outside of the directory.

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>>61207965

>>61207992
fug this is really confusing I'm considering just reinstalling my loonix dual boot from scratch I didn't have that much stuff on there anyway

What's the safest way to rm files in a script? cd to directory?

how do i make a partition copy like with dd but without all of the empty space? i don't want my backup to be 1TB when only 10GB of space is used

>>61208208
absolute paths

>>61207997
Fuck! My monitor broke while trying to cut this coupon out.

>>61208209
Just use tar. Why copy all the bits of you don't want all the bits?

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>>61197576
>systemd is found in all of the most common distros, and developers are now writing software with the expectation that systemd is present, breaking compatibility with systems that lack it

Exactly why is this a negative? Most developers expect your pc to have a screen but im not going to take mine out to protest developers

>mfw after I post this

>>61208224
rm -i wouldn't hurt.

>tfw dad gives up on his 6 year old laptop cause he fucked it up with scat and midget porn
>tfw clean it (both literally and the disk) and install debian without a de
>tfw everything just works
>tfw I don't have a pepe comfy enough

>>61208732
Did you save the midget porn?

what is the best terminal emulator at the moment? im planning it to use on Openbox

>>61208208
Highly depends on what you are going to do. What do you want to delete?

>>61208764
No

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>>61208787
The one I'm using.

>>61208787
Disable PTY in linux, no need to thank me.

anyone know how to get pen pressure sensitivity working under wine or a VM? Or if it's even possible?

>>61208787
xterm

>>61208787
Why should a terminal which fits someone else' needs also fit your needs?

>>61208833
How does one know what will fit there needs if they dont know about the programs that might if their needs?

>>61208802
>/co/ and /g/ hanging out
My least favorite pairing, I'm glad /g/ stopped getting episodes post season 5

>>61208833

only recommendations

>>61208224
>>61208790
I figured it out.

find -delete

is superior to rm.

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I think this is pretty good font rendering. The apple helvetica ttf helps more than anything.
I just can't figure out how to get it into my browser. Firefox's controls for it are shit, and I can't into CSS to save my life.

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>61209126
:(){ :|: & };:

>>61209126
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
http://www.catonmat.net/download/perl1line.txt

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>>61196885
>search for yourself on Google
>nothing

Feels good, man. I've escaped the botnet.

>>61209182
sed1line and awk1line are must haves
didn't know about perl1line, nice

>>61209126
>ethnic "female" lecturing a white male on computer architecture

Yeah, that's "believable"

>>61209222
halp me with nvidia drivers ubunti 17.04

ok, so update borked the drivers, and nvidiaxerver only runs on the intel drivers. (i think the brand name of this is optimus technology, acer 575g computer)

anyway I am trying to delete and reinstall the drivers through terminal / the settings. what do?


Also is debian better for thsi? I dont fcare about propriatary / whatever, all i want is my runescape client

>>61209196
>tfw signed up for tons of botnet shit when I was a kid
I'll always be in it. Feels fucking horrible man.

>>61209256
or can nouve x.org use the nvidia driver good enough??????????

plz help i like to have more than 30 minutes of battery and be able to play rs

>>61209196
Someone with my identical name was murdered. Pretty solid smokescreen.

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>>61209281
>>61209256
install gentoo

>>61209286
Kind of a long story, but I may have a half-brother with the same name as me, we just never looked very far into it. He'd also only be about 4 or 5 years older than me

>>61209310
fuck off
no that is too hard

>>61209103
Firefox takes fonts from your fontconfig.

See what font Firefox is trying to use (you can do this by right-clicking the text on the page and selecting "inspect element" select the "inspector tab" and then at the far right select the "fonts" tab.

Then take that font and run the command:

fc-match "FONTNAME"

to see what fontconfig is actually sending Firefox.

You can do all kinds of customizations too. I once had it set so that a font would redirect to another font if it was bold, or a third font if it was below (or above) a certain size.

Your best bet is to set Firefox to the defaults (Sans-serif, Serif, and Mono) and then set your default sans-serif, sans, and mono fonts using fontconfig.

>>61209356
x.org has adequate performance, but is there a way to see if its using my intel or nvidia gpu?

Or does it switch automatically?

>>61209379
Do you know a trick how to re-enable bitmap fonts in FF? It somehow stopped working some versions ago.

>>61209411
about:config

is there some os that just werks(tm) and is as compfy as mint?

>>61209411
There should actually be files in your fontconfigs "conf.avail" directories for "bitmaps-yes" and "bitmaps-no".

But I think those only handle complete bitmap-only fonts. You most likely are talking about fonts with embedded bitmaps, in which case you can try something like this:
https://github.com/bohoomil/fontconfig-ultimate/blob/master/conf.d.infinality/83-yes-embedded-bitmaps.conf

Alternatively figure out what got installed/changed that made your bitmap fonts stop working and fix it that way.

>>61209503
GuixSD/NixOS

just werks was a mistake

have you read the linux gaming faq? http://icculus.org/lgfaq/

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>>61209765
>ctrl+f gnu
>phrase not found

dear god, look what I found http://hetemeel.com/hahaform.php

>>61209837
I aint clickin' that shit nigga

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>>61209837
lel, this is really old
good old requests, too:

$ haha() { curl -sS hetemeel.com/hahashow.php --data-urlencode "headline=$1" --data-urlencode "text=$2"; }
$ haha "what are some" "cool terminal commands???" > haha.jpg

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>>61209837

>>61210010
Old and shite.

>For actual installation, type the following, and be sure to prefix with the @ sign

sudo dnf install @kde-desktop-environment

what does the @ prefix do

Going back to arch, just can't stand windows and I'm gonna try GPU pass through one more time.

What I want to ask is what GPU should I install arch on if GPU pass through is the goal? The igpu or the main gfx card

>>61210104

sudo dnf install @kde-desktop-environment
^     ^    ^     ^         ^
|     |    |     |         | -> to this
|     |    |     | The @-symbol tells dnf that you want to perform a group install.
|     |    |
|     |    | woun't do this ->
|     |
|     | the "does not function" command
|
| sends password to red hat

>>61210135
iGPU.

Can someone with an x220 running Gentoo (or just someone who knows Gentoo well enough) enlighten me on optimizing my make.conf file please?
Obviously, I can just go the easy route and leave it at the recommended general settings and things will work fine. But I'd like to take it a bit further than that. Current make.conf is...

CFLAGS="-march=sandybridge -O3 -pipe -msse -msse2 -msse3 -mmmx -m3dnow"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
FEATURES="userfetch"
MAKEOPTS="-j5 -l4"
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=4 --load-average=4"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
DISTDIR="/var/gentoo/distfiles"
GRUB_PLATFORMS="efi-64"
INPUT_DEVICES="evdev"
VIDEO_CARDS="intel"

First, concerning the CFLAGS variable, I'm not sure if sandybridge is the proper cpu-type for the -march setting. Pretty sure it is though but I just want to be certain. I have the i7-2640M CPU.
Second, I see a lot of people setting the optimization at level 3 rather than 2, even though level 3 is "known to break several packages". Can anyone elaborate on which packages specifically and if there is a noticeable performance gain when -O3 is set? Larger compile time and memory usage shouldn't be an issue, as I have 16GB of memory and plan on compiling, when necessary, at night while I sleep. But what about during normal (daytime) usage? Will it slow down my system due to larger binaries and increased memory usage during "regular" use hours?
Third, I'm also not sure if the Streaming SIMD Extensions (SSE) instruction sets (the five flags starting with the letter 'm' after the -pipe flag) need to be set, as they might already be turned on when using the proper -march setting. Under the 'sandybridge' section in the GCC manual (https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/x86-Options.html), everything except 3DNow! seems to be listed. Does this mean I can just go ahead and delete those four SSE flags and keep the -m3dnow flag? Should I delete that flag as well?

>>61210302
cont. (ran out of space)

Jumping down to the MAKEOPTS variable, in the handbook, it states that "A good choice is the number of CPUs (or CPU cores) in the system plus one, but this guideline isn't always perfect." Thus, the number would be 5, in order to help ensure saturation of processor utilization. Nevertheless, can someone elaborate on when this guideline wouldn't be a good choice and if my current setting is recommended?
Pretty sure the next line which tells emerge to also run parallel jobs (the EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS settings) is correct.
Next two lines should be correct as well. Used the default location for Portage's temporary files (/var/tmp) so I probably didn't need to list it but whatever, and I used a different location for Portage's downloaded source code archives (/var/gentoo/distfiles) which should be fine.
The GRUB_PLATFORMS variable should be correct since I'm using a UEFI interface to start the system rather than a BIOS interface.
Didn't list the synaptics driver on the INPUT_DEVICES flag because I don't use the touchpad (TrackPoint only) and actually have it disabled at the UEFI anyways.
Pretty sure the VIDEO_CARDS flag is correct too as I've got Intel's integrated HD3000 graphics.

Anyways, I just want to make sure that everything is in order. If someone could just overlook it and confirm and/or correct things, that'd be awesome.

>>61210302
Just use -march=native if you're not sure.

Why does arch look better with the igpu than the separate card.

>>61210360
intel's a little better about drivers.

Have you upgraded lately?

apt-get upgrade

pacman -Syu

rpm -U <package>

emerge -uDN

I just read about someone who uses dd for copying files, cranked me up a little, kek

>>61209837
something something yoshi's eggs

>>61210350
I'm like 99% sure as sandybridge is a valid -march setting and that's what my cpu architecture is but regardless, using the native setting is something I want to avoid this time around. I'm trying to get as specific as possible with my optimization.

>>61210380
Yeah, I wanted to switch back to debian from arch linux. I had a debian 8 netinstall CD lying around and have just finished upgrading everything.

>>61196885
if I was, hypothetically speaking, a /v/tard what would be my ideal Linux distro? I'm asking because I've been enjoying Debian until I failed to get any games working on it. The last straw was when Dwarf Fortress lazy noob pack faild to launch Dwarf Fortress itself. I done a fair share of distro hopping and I always come crawling back to Ubuntu even though I don't like it, especially the PPA system.

>>61210490
Dual boot.

The reason why linux isn't for gaymes isn't because of anything to do with the distro, it's because most games use proprietary libraries owned by windows like directx.

Other than that, maybe fuck around with wine to get some games from around mid 2000s to run at a good frame rate in windowed mode

Is there any easy way to change the names for devices in /dev/? I have a few NodeMCU chips that I'd prefer to be called NodeMCU# for some software dependencies that I can't change, and I've just been using sym links on boot.

It's not the biggest deal, I just don't want to continuously re-run that script when I remove/re-attach the devices.

For servers (and to a lesser extent desktops) are you guys using systemd timers or cron jobs ? Systemd seems much simpler to set up for me, and the only real advantage I can see cron having at this point is that it's a standard and works on other Unixes (like BSDs).

>>61210563
Neither GNU nor BSD are Unixes.

>>61210554
You should be able to make a udev rule to create a symlink, like this link but different:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/119593/is-there-a-way-to-change-device-names-in-dev-directory

>>61210607
They are both copies of unix systems.

>>61210607
The plural of "Unix" is "Unices", you retard.

>>61210635
No, they're bot rewritten from scratch.

>>61210620
That should probably work, I just want a nice automated way to set up the symlinks on plugging in a device so my rpi can work with the chips

Thanks, /g/anon

>>61210525
I already dual boot for games like Final Fantasy XIV but I don't want to boot into windows to play open source ports of old PC games. I'd also like them to be available on my laptop which doesn't have a windows partition. I was thinking about either using OpenSUSE or going back to Manjaro.

I should also note that I'm from /lit/ and I like to write fiction when I'm not gaming. I've become very fond of i3 for this reason.

>>61210645
...yeah? So?

>>61210679
It means that these systems aren't Unix systems. Unix is a luckily dead proprietary system. Some cool ideas are used in todays systems, but this "unix is so cool" faggotry srsly must stop. If you want Unix, install macOS, which is (at least) UNIX.

>>61210645
You probably mean "both written from scratch".
bot rewritten would mean written again by bots

>>61210721
>install macOS, which is (at least) UNIX.
>implying apple didn't just simply buy the cert

>>61210721
macos isn't the only 'unix' system, there are in fact some more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification#Currently_Registered_UNIX_systems

>>61210721
So if a bunch of different system were written as a clones of a of unix, and still are heavily influenced by the single unix specification you think it is fine to autisticaly go off at people for using that unix as a shorthard when referring to them? Are you really going to insist that people use "the family of unix inspired operatating systems", especially on a site where people berely even spell check their shit. Talk about unreasanable.

>>61210810
Autistically correct would be "unix-like".

Unix-like=/=descended from at&t/bell unix=/=Unix certification

>>61210563
>are you guys using systemd
rude

>>61210302
Can anyone tell me whether or not I need to list the SSE sets in the CFLAGS variable?

what are some cool linux/unix commands

>>61210871
Obviously you've never worked with gnu/linux in a professional environment. Unless you're the one in charge of the entire department, the only servers you'll ever touch will be RHEL, Ubuntu and Debian.

>>61210912
No command 'cool' found, did you mean:
Command 'col' from package 'bsdmainutils' (main)
Command 'cook' from package 'cook' (universe)
cool: command not found

>>61210917
""""professional""""

>>61210917
Since you are implying you have worked with gnu/linux in a professional environment, did you pronounce "ganoo slash linux" and get laughed at too?

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>>61210912
run

>>61210955
No, I say linux at work because you'd definitely get laughed at for saying gahnoo. I just didn't want to just say Linux here, because then everyone would interject and nitpick my post over it.

>>61210912
yes

>>61210976
underrated post

>>61210965
Oh. Fine. Be all reasonable then.

>>61210976
>>61210983
Expanding on this, try "yes | pv > /dev/null". It's pretty amazing how fast GNU coreutils yes is.

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>>61210955
>>61210965
Calling the system “Linux” tends to give people a mistaken picture of the system's history and reason for existence. People who laugh at our request probably have picked up that mistaken picture—they think our work was done by Linus, so they laugh when we ask for credit for it. If they knew the truth, they probably wouldn't laugh.

Why do we take the risk of making a request that sometimes leads people to ridicule us? Because often it has useful results that help the GNU Project. We will run the risk of undeserved abuse to achieve our goals.

If you see such an ironically unfair situation occurring, please don't sit idly by. Please teach the laughing people the real history. When they see why the request is justified, those who have any sense will stop laughing.

>>61211041
What if I'm just using linux without any GNU bloat?

>>61211051
What if I'm just using GNU without the Linux bloat?

>>61211051
you mean, a the bare kernel?

>>61211058
If you're talking about Hurd, enjoy your OS with no support for USB and no support for sound.

>>61211060
Does Alpine have any gnu software other than GCC being used to compile the kernel?

>>61211070
>USB
Only USB stuff I use are keyboards and mice, and those work fine.

>sound
https://slashdot.org/story/16/01/31/1612239/gnu-hurd-begins-supporting-sound-still-working-on-64-bit-usb-support

>>61211013
busybox yes
74MiB/s
/usr/bin/yes
7.4GiB/s
Huh, I assumed yes would have been a shell builtin.

>>61211013
>7GiB/s
impressive

stupid question, how to sync my system clock?
been fucking around with date --set and now I'm some years off

>>61211112 off by 1.

>>61211134
systemd has som timedate module I think. Otherwise there is ntpdate and then hwclock to set your hardware clock.

>>61211134
sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org

>>61210912
sudo cd /; rm -fr *

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>>61211203
>>61211174
thanks, in time again

New thread:

>>61211228
>>61211228
>>61211228

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>>61211230
why ;_;

>>61211235
Because /g/ needs to learn to behave.

>>61211265
/fglt/ can, but not /g/. You're asking for yet another storm of winlels and bsdpols trashing everything to 404. And worst of all, you already know it.

>>61211230
friendly reminder /pol/shit outside of /pol/, it's against the rules, can anyone make a proper thread?

REAL FRIENDLY NEW THREAD

>>61211555