/pmp/ Portable Media Players

fuck, reminds me that my zune 30 needs a win 7 machine to work. stuck in the firmware screen.
at least my HD still works.

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Benjie T6 worth getting lads?

>>61173074
Still rocking my Zune HD, full charge still last me a whole week

lmao just use your phone dad

>>61173074
Getting a Classic G7 soon

>>61174151
please take the stickers off your LG

>>61173074
I'll have to install Rockbox 3.14 on my Sansa Clip.
Haven't used it in forever, gonna have to give it another go

I've been using an iPod mini with a 32GB hard drive for 4 years and it's great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ersv2DnW7E

best cheap(<100 if possible), portable PMP/DAP that can drive 80ohm beyerdynamics?

also I care a lot about the design of the product itself and the UI as I don't want to be pissed off every time I load it up.

thinking abt getting the AGPTEK rocker atm

but i do need something that can get my 80ohm headphones loud

>>61004768
Anon with his Clip+ can at least go to 64GB, you just have to reformat the SD card as something other than exFAT, which most things can't read because lolpatents. I'm not sure if 128/256GB works, things designed for the SDHC standard may not be able to address that much memory, but I'm not an expert.

>>61173074
That lack of Unicode support though

Anyone happen to know if the mSATA mod for an iPod 5.5G is preferable to using a CF card? It seems like it might be cheaper/easier but I really have no idea.

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Fiio X1. got it because my phone at the time had no SD slot, but i like not having to charge my phone too much to give it up

>>61176236
How is it?

I have been thinking of getting a PMP.
What type of SD card do you use and does it take long to load up music.

Does it load album art or read metadata well? including Japanese character set?

>>61173074

so due to work requirements i'd like a portable media player, but it cannot have wifi, bluetooth, a FM tuner, or camera. touchscreens a minus.

i fly a fighter jet so sound quality is shot anyway.

what should i get.

Goodday!
Greetings from a anon who mostly hangs around /cyb/ threads.
I never really saw this kind of thread before and I wonder if anyone is capable of recommending me a device which is supported by rockbox, a bit sturdy for outside usage and looks simply decent enough. Also a bit like >>61176904 is asking for
>buuhuu read the OP faggot
I am still reading through the OP and the RockBox site, so don't worry about me forgetting to do homework.

*plays doom on my sansa fuze*

Agptek A20 any good? It was only like $30 so it doesn't matter anyway but it'd be nice if it was. I need something for the car.

>>61176904
The FM tuner being not allowed makes it a very difficult search, good luck finding one Maverick.

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So other than butchering an iPod or shelling out a gorillion dollars to full kit out a Fiio X5, what's the next best thing for high capacity on the go?

>>61177611

yeah as you can imagine, security's a big thing at work.

What should I get with a budget of
$30-45 CAD? Anything slightly above the price also works.

>>61176904
>>61177721
Got just the thing for you, the Walnut V2 and V2S.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2017-NICEHCK-Newest-DIY-MP3-Walnut-V2-V2S-Professional-HIFI-Music-Player-Support-32GB-TF-Card/32810438060.html

>>61174151

I've heard the UI is kind of laggy so I went with the T5

Are there any cheap chink devices with physical buttons that support opus?

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>>61173074
The one acceptable Astell and Kern player

>>61178642
I too worry about my mediaplayer being detected by radar

>>61173111
well trying, and failing, to get it back working. hard resets and now i just see a blank screen over and over. getting close to putting back in the cabinet.
if i do get the menu, doesn't want to sync nor not freeze up.

>>61178421

Some guy recommended me the Walnut V2 when I said I wanted a cheap DAC. Good idea?

>>61178421
Shame you can't use the wheel up top to go through songs or something. Only being able to click through songs one at a time kills it for me. It's such a cool device though.
I would like to be able have some kind of organization on top of individual songs. Playlists, folders, whatever. Clicking a button once per song for any decent collection would be insane.
Cool device either way. Missed opportunity.

>>61173074
great album but those boxes trigger me

>>61180164
All you can eat tofu

>>61177970
a broken as-is ipod

then save up $200 or more to get all the parts to mod it into something usable and higher capacity

Halo 3 zune with 120GB HDD replacement reporting in
would love if there was a better HDD for this baby

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Reminder that Sony A1x/A2x is gets rockbox support.

>>61181406
How's the battery on it?

>>61176904

Original BENJIE T1 16GB HiFi Portable Lossless APE FLAC MP3 Player 2.4 Inches Screen Digital Music Player
http://s.aliexpress.com/rUJ7R32M
(from AliExpress Android)

Also look for the benjie n9000 which is smaller and cheaper, but does have a voice recording facility which I'm guessing is also not allowed.

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Waiting for a USB-C pmp with a great DAC, Bluetooth, and a serviceable UI.

I miss my Cowon S9/J3. Battery life, EQ, and custom UIs were the best

I work at the dump and found an ipod classic 120gb black one

I sold my 160GB one a while ago because i didn't use it.
Looked at the stuff and it didn't support any file types i use so i just installed rockbox on it and it works beautifully and dont need to use itunes.

Might even replace the battery and put in an ssd if i can be bothered

>>61182998
Shanling M1 has those and may get a rockbox port.

I remembered when everyone shat on the Zune when it came out. Funny it's so supposedly highly prized now

>>61184011
It was a huge meme when it came out for sure, laughing stock of a device.
I remember being a child when the ipod photo and then the ipod photo came out and they were like iPad money, $500 or something. I could have gotten one for christmas but it would have been the ONLY thing I got for christmas. Went for the yugioh cards instead.
I did however end up getting a gen 1 white ipod nano and that was an amazing device. I got in on the early days of a now dead project called Ipod Linux that allowed it to play videos and, of course, doom.

There's a disturbing lack of reviews about pmp.

Unless you're russian, that's it.

What's a good but cheap mp3? I was looking for the agptek 02, how is it sound quality wise?

Is rockbox dying, anon? I don't want it to die

Any advice for earphones?

I'm torn between KZ ZST, Senfer UEs, KZ ATE/KZ ATE-S + new foam tips

>>61184407
in the same boat as PMPs

>>61184486
Take a look into "DIY" IEMs/Earphones. You can pretty much just make your own and it's not very difficult. I've also seen sellers offering the end result product on aliexpress.
If you lurk /csg/ and PMP general there is a guy with almost every note worthy chi-fi IEM and he's likely the best source of information on them. How some faggot on /g/ ended up with that position is beyond me.

>>61176904
>listening to music on a fighter jet

Are you sure you should be doing that?

>>61184486
>>61184645
One of the more reputable chink DIY store is Daik, but they focus more on full-size.

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Received a 120 GB iPod Classic from my sis-in-law (she's moving overseas and is getting rid of some stuff)

Currently have a Clip+ with Rockbox and a 64 GB microSD and it's good enough, listening with VE Monks.

Is it worth switching to the iPod?

She used it a lot while running (training for 10K and some marathons) so im afraid the disk wont resist much. Is it normal hearing some clicks while switching songs? Never used a HDD based iPod before, had a Creative Zen 10 years ago and the HDD just buzzed, didn't clicked

>>61184854
The iPod can last 30h on rockbox, more if you extend the battery.
It's not as portable however.
You can do the SSD of mSD mod.

>>61184945
The Clip+ lasts 22h with 3.14 so that's a negligible gain.

Or I could try to sell the Clip+ now that they are discontinued, has original box, papers and accesories, no visible damage

>>61184765
How else is he going to listen to Kenny Loggins?

>>61184765

it's for really boring "fly from point A to point B" things, or when we're doing some stuff that has us flying in circles doing nothing.

>>61185227
It also has a different sound signature, more detailed and brighter compared to clip's dark sound.
>negligible
Some DAPs can barely last 8h, that's quite an improvement if you ask me.
You can always replace the stock 500mah battery with a 3000mah, but you'll need the thicker backplate.

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>>61185762
>has practice flight coming
>"fuck this boring shit imma get ma tunes on"
>in fighter jet, headset off, headphones on
>"Anon the weather is getting worse, turn back"
>can't hear shit
>"Anon get the fuck back"
>keep flying
>tornado right ahead
>o shit
>in the last moments of your life, you are comforted by the fact that you get to rock out on a fighter jet

>>61186183
How much it will be swapping the battery and replacing the hhd with an SSD? Will it be Rockbox compatible or I'll have to reencode muh FLACs into Apple lossless?

If I have to replace the backplate I could also exchange the front fascia and the hold button

>>61186603
Yeah if you do it will look basically just like new. Get the front panel with screen cover already installed though.

Replacing HDD with a SD card is the best choice for battery life, you can look for case and adapters on aliexpress.
For the battery, check ebay or something.

>>61174329
Same here anon. My 64gb is still a workhorse.

I want to get something but I just have no idea what to go for.
I want something nice looking and long lasting.

It would be nice if it displays album art and is able to play FLAC and similar formats.

>>61186906
Shanling M1.
M2s if you want something more premium.

Why did they discontinue the Cowon J3? It was basically the perfect device. Mine can't hold a charge anymore unfortunately, and it's pretty beat up so who knows how long until its electronics die too.

>>61179014
this
why do high price media players always have to look so retarded these days?

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need a PMP that:
-plays opus
-can use 128gb microsd
-good battery life, 20+ hours if possible
-non-hiss output for my IEMs
-not A&K retarded expensive

so far all I can think of is getting a clip+ and maybe trying to mod in a bigger battery or just going full-on phone and using an external mini dac/amp to clean up the sound.

help pls?

>>61173074
what is the process by which the classic zune get's the double layered color look? I have not seen it in any other product and I think it looks amazing. it looks like double poly-urethane or something.

>>61187903
What does it look like?

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What do you guys think of the Bose QC 35?

I'd like one of these doo-dads but I can't justify another gadget when I derive no pleasure in finding and organizing media, and use Spotify premium instead.

>>61187172
to justify 1K+ pricetag

>>61178642
Let me guess
$800?
A PMP that looks like it was designed by Alienware isn't exactly low profile. Enjoy getting your toy stolen by a Tyrone, anon

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>>61188639
nah lad

Any of you guys tried the Walnut V2/VS or Zishan Z1?

I keep reading the sound quality is amazing for the price but honestly I can't see myself using a screnless pmp.

I have a shitload of music, sometimes groups I know shit all about so navigating would be a nightmare.

>>61181406
>$200+

nigga I can buy a fucking smartphone for that much

any idea how the cheaper Sony NWZ-E3xx series are? they're on the official supported list. the A1/A2 seems to still not be working.

>>61188767
They are shit compared to this, of course.
They work at least.

Not like you'll find a phone that size with physical controls and similar audio quality anyway.

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>>61188699
I wonder if this is still available for sale

>>61188808
meh, phone + dac/amp seems more reasonable. phones do more, they have better battery life usually, with a separate amp/dac they probably sound as good or better and can provide more power depending on what kind.

so what you're loosing is size and physical controls, and using inline IEM controls isn't that limiting to me personally.

it seems PMPs have gotten more expensive, bigger, and with shorter battery life over time, probably because they cater to people who want to listen to he-6 on the train.

>>61188912
Inline controls are lost through a DAC/AMP, so it'd be inconvenient to control.
The stuff that isn't overengineered and/or designed by chinks last 20-40 hours, maybe more.
Of course battery life is gonna be shit if you have desktop-grade DACs and and a giant amp circuit on a 2200mah battery.

>>61189021
yeah I forgot about loosing controls. still, no small PMPs with good battery life and opus support other than clip+ or extremely expensive stuff, and phones.

I'll either get a clip+ or go the phone route. I'm looking at phones that have 20 hours SOT so I'm sure they could play music, even with a dac/amp sucking power, for at least that long. I wish phone makers would just shell out the extra dollar or whatever for non-hiss amps. you would expect that in phones that aren't bottom-barrel cheap but apparently not. maybe I should give up on IEMs and go full mdr-1000x with bluetooth and all that shit.

>>61189160
Portable DAC/AMP have their own battery.
Audio on phones is hit or miss, sometimes even with supposedly high audio quality phones. Remember to get a dac+amp device.
Hell, a iPod classic is still smaller than modern phones, and there are the walkmans still.
Also, carrying 2 devices strapped together might be more annoying that you think.

>>61186256

oh, we have patch cables so we can play it over the radio comms.

Hey guys, i got a question. I bought a broken iPod video 5.5 for 27 bucks few weeks ago, it has cracked faceplate and dead battery. Until now I only change the battery to a 450 mA battery and install rockbox, now how many hours of running time should I expect?
I got varying result with my iPod, my top time is something like 24 hours but my last running time from 100% only last me up to a little more than 9 hours. Also, I played mostly FLAC files.

>>61176477
it should because it's chinese desu

>>61189272
>Portable DAC/AMP have their own battery.

I've been seeing quite a few more that are phone-powered recently, some draw so little power that the effect on battery is negligible, maybe loosing an hour or two off the total time when in use. the downside being you don't get much extra power if any, but that's fine for non-hungry headphones/IEMs at low volumes which is what I tend to use. and they're small enough to not have to strap them to the phone, doubling the thickness, you can just leave them on the line (though if I did that I might want to rig something to lessen the change of it falling off). dragonfly black for example. though those cost about as much if not more than a cheap PMP in itself, though they seem to be able to decode a lot more meme formats. I don't care about that, I just want hiss and possible coloration gone. I think past the point of transparency there is no point in "higher quality" gear/formats.

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>>61174151
>Velux window

>>61189325
stuff like FLAC needs more processing power to decode, so it drains the battery faster. depending on software, the difference can be huge. I have a jank homebrew player on my PSP that lets me use mp3engine to play mp3 files with the CPU clocked as low as 20mhz (stock menu clock is 200-300mhz). it pretty much doubles the battery life. if you modded in a bigger battery into the PSP I could see it getting over 20 hours of music. unfortunately it's buggy and crashes or plays long mp3 files (audiobooks) with fucked up audio. maybe I can track down an updated version some day. I think it's called "mp3lite by sakya".

>>61189468
>stuff like FLAC needs more processing power to decode
nah, if anything it only needs more reads from storage. Decoding FLAC is less demanding than mp3 even.
See rockbox.

>>61187876
Tall order desu

>>61189491
it must be the reads that are decreasing battery life then, or maybe it's just the software on the players I've used is not optimized :/. but if reads were the problem, couldn't you just load an album or whatever into RAM when you start playing it? I guess most PMPs don't have enough memory for that.

so with the Fiio X3, should i get the 1st or 2nd gen/what are the benefits and drawbacks of each?

>>61189570
The iPod 5G has 32 or 64 MB of RAM depending on storage capacity.

>>61189869
Just get 2nd

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Was using this until a few days ago

>>61190058
What's this, it looks sleek. Mind giving a review on it?

>>61190222
It's great, especially the audio quality.
However it runs hot, battery life is short and the UI lags.
Device is Shanling M2.

Is there any pmp that meets these requirements?
-around 50 usd
-physical controls
-good interface or rockboxable
-relatively small
My clip stopped holding a charge and I would like to try something else.

>>61189523
>every player going for DSD 24bit balanced placebo shit
>not actual useful shit like opus

fuck

>>61190827
Used Clip?

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Y/N?

>>61174151
actually jealous of that room, nice setup anon

>>61190934
>too many features for a discrete dac/amp
>no screen, gimping it as a PMP

>>61188699
Hahahahahahahahahahah

Why not just use your smartphone?

>>61191106
because i'm not supposed to have a phone on in the fighter jet. a music-only device is not going to have the security folks on my ass.

>>61191136
OK well that makes sense. And those that don't require security clearance?

Any of you have the Ruizu X02?

I just want a beater to use at work.

>>61191136
Lmao, hope you crash for being retarded.

"Hey I'm A special snowflake! I need to listen to music while I fly"

Grow up faggot

>>61185227
How much?

>>61191162

autopilot on while flying in circles waiting just in case somebody decides to attack the President for 6 hours or 2.5 hours each way up the Persian Gulf from Al Udeid to the AO gets boring. i read a book last time i did it, and pretty much all of us either bring an PMP or a book or both.

>>61191231
Not wonder why terrorist are fucking your wifes.

"Hey dude! There is this plane that's flying towards the twin towers! What do we do?

Shut up James, I'm trying to listen this new Britney Spears single!"

I want a pmp or just audio player here's my requirements:

Long battery life and good energy efficiency, must be usable for at least 12h music, will be charged from a solar panel

µsd card

low price

actual buttons for volume, next and pause, no holing down bs.

>>61191162
>>61191271
I guess you guys are talking from your extensive piloting experience.

Fucking autists.

>>61190222
Checked those trips.

>>61191271

*wives

c'mon, try a bit harder.

and no, i don't have wives since i'm not mormon or muslim.

I'm considering buying a pmp and sound quality is my main concern.

So, will I get higher quality playing flac files on pmp instead of my phone?

I'm talking about stuff on the 20-50 bucks range, nothing high end.

>>61191157
yes, it's good. the UI and controls take getting used to somewhat, but it's not laggy and has a bunch of features, good battery life too. the build is decent, it might be worth getting something with a better build as there are many players on ali that are basically an x02 in a different shell. I have an original and one of the buttons no longer clicks properly, though it still works, but because it can be depressed so easily if you don't lock the controls it could do something in your pocket. also, if you listen to audiobooks, it has a sleep timer and bookmarks which is good, but sometimes the bookmarks don't stick if you completely power off, and/or you have to navigate back to that specific track and start again from the main menu. only has this happen with power off though, on sleep it wakes to where you were. also the fast forwards and back are slow if you listen to long tracks, it can get annoying, plus it's not continuous (I've found this on a lot of players), so if you want to get to the last part of track A quickly, you can't just skip to track B then rewind continuously into the end of track A, it will immediately go to the start of A or even a track further back. all the other features are suprisingly different and it has stuff that much more expensive players don't have like FM radio (with saved channels), recording, a decent eq, calendar, even (shitty) video playback. you can use the included video encoder to make a bloated, low-res version of any video file. I think that benjie one is the same but with a metal housing, not sure though. oh, another annoying thing is lock/unlock takes a button combo and it's slow. the player makes up for lack of buttons with combos and context menus and shit. wish the plain old hold button like on my PSP would make a comeback.

>>61191162
>Grow up faggot
dude's a pilot, you're some faggot shitposting on 4chan. I don't think you have room to bitch at him.

best budget dap for high impedance headphones? talking around 80 ohms, but ilisten to my music pretty loudly

>>61191393
I guess I could be fine with any chink pmp, but there's such a lack of information about their quality that people just end buying the same shit.

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>>61185384
>underrated post

>>61191346
>>61191309
Stay mad, fucking American hahah

>>61191413
He "says" he's a pilot.
Nice projection cocksucker.

>>61191601
yeah, there are so many out there, many of which are very similar and/or are copies/renames. I would say all but the real stinkers are decent enough (x02) quality in the $10-30 range. $40-100 gets you the more premium PMPs, which usually have less features but support more formats, have more buttons, and have a better build. some support higher capacity SD cards or even 2 at once. once you break $100 you might as well go for the more reliable brands and their "cheaper" audiophile DAPs, like fiio X1 and such. I think I'll post some of the better looking ones I found on ali just to keep the thread going.

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>>61188471
Going to replace the battery with a 3000mAh one, as well as the disk drive with a 128GB mSD to SD to CF to DiskDrive and also the front, back and clickwheel because they're scratched AF.
Thanks for the guide >>61173074

WHATS THE CHEAPEST PMP/DAP THAT HAS HIGH OUTPUT POWER(FOR POWERING HIGH IMPEDANCE HEADPHONES(AROUND 80-150)

>>61192977
fiio X1?

thoughts on the benjie x1?

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It may not be the best media player but it's so portable that you could shove it in your ass and take a comfortable walk down the beach.

>>61193751
Where did the rest of your iPod go?

>>61193796
In Apple's cut expenses folder.

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>>61181406
best reply here
looks sexy, battery lasts multiple days on heavy use (unless your using their hi-res feature which i can barely find any songs compatible).

best of all it actually sounds worth the price unlike alot of pmp's have a limiter for their countries regulations

cant recommend it more as of how

also have a clip zip to compare it to

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Just found this baby in the basement. Slapped rockbox on it, but for some reason it's not picking up album art from the id3 tags? Am I retarded?

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I love the aesthetics of Sony's old mp3 players.

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>>61194683

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>there still isn't a portable media player that can hold all 550 gbs of my music collection
>>61178642
>>61188699
>even this alienware tier faggot shit that costs $3000 cant do it

I thought we lived in the future, what the fuck?

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>>61194732

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http://www.sony.jp/walkman/store/special/miku10th/?s_pid=jp_/walkman/lineup/_clblineup

>>61194772
How can I get one?
I need it for my car.

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>>61173074
My Grandmother bought a Sansa Fuze+ a while ago for too much money and never used it, was still in the box... She asked me about it and ended up just giving it to me. I installed RockBox on it because I knew it existed, and sure enough it was supported. Is this thing even worth anything over just using my phone?

>>61194878

I supposed if you don't want to drain the battery on your phone it's a good backup.

>>61194925
That is true... Nothing else? It'll probably just collect dust then lol

>>61174151
the glare from that window must be unbearable

>>61184407
>>61184621
After years of experience, I'll let you know how it works.

Good technology dies to be replaced by worse technology. The "worse" technology at first isn't that bad, so it seems bearable, but the cycle continues, and the worse technology continues to get worse.
See: desktop -> laptop -> smartphone/tablet -> ???

It's best to let go of the dead technologies you like, as the world will rob them from you at gunpoint at some point anyway.

>>61191967

you got me, i'm totally not a fighter pilot. i just pose as one on the internet. you're completely validated in all your life choices because nobody's done interesting things with their lives.

>>61194736
Wrong board, frogposter, gb2/b.

>>61189869
>>61189914

cool, thanks. Do I need an amp with it or should it provide enough power to drive most headphones?

>>61173074
>zero fucking unicode support
Disgusting. But otherwise good choice in music.

>>61194736
AK KANN gets close at max 832 GB. As storage evolves it can go higher.
Technically all DAPs with external storage can go up to 2TB, those cards just don't exist yet.
Another option is iPod Classic with SSD mod, you can put a 1TB msata in.
Or the 4*mSD mod, with msd to SD adapters, should allow 4*512GB.
So yeah, you can get a 2TB DAP right now.

>>61173111
>>61179046
ended up putting it in the cabinet. probably use it for parts if i end up buying a cheap zune online.
my zune hd will still be used, but not as bricky or able to store more than a playlist or two.

>>61193471
>physical controls are now touch shit
I don't know if I like this trend. better than tapping a screen but I will always love my tactile buttons. for one thing with real buttons you can feel them and depress the right one without looking.

>>61193751
shanling M1 is pretty much the modern version of this if you don't want cheap clip-on sports shit.

>>61194749
>>61194732
>>61194683
sony has always been among the best at physical device design practicality with aesthetics that are unique. I would put them on par with old IBM, they never needed to follow the apple route and their stuff actually has buttons. to bad all of their best stuff either doesn't have modern relevancy or is priced very high. but man, the way those old OLED screens shine though the shiny plastic, it's the original "bezel-less" look that is getting such a comeback now. and I love how they pack so much function into those rotating knob mechanisms. VIAO was great too.

>>61193751
Used to have one of these. Really fucking loved it. I dropped it like a retard several times and didn't break or bend at all. Probably because of how light it is.

Anyone know if the sansa sport clip is any good? And I mean it being decent for my grandmother since I bought her a zip clip a few years back and I'd like to basically trade her so I have a back up for my current zip clip.

>>61194878
>>61194925
why does everyone focus on the old ipods and the clip+ when it comes to rockbox? is there something bad about using the other supported players, or somethig the clip does better?

>>61197517
Old iPods are popular because they're great hardware with nice moddability and the Clip is popular because it used to be a cheap Rockboxable option

>>61197549
>>61197517
just checked the rockbox site. apparently a guy used some patches to rockbox on his fuze which disable the touchpad when it's locked (thouchpad powered off?), and while locked it played music for 40+ hours, that's like 3x the other measurements.

>>61194736
re-encode your library to opus at the point of transparency. I bet that 550gb is a few flac albums.

>>61197690
>s1mp3
Damn i had one of those too, sounds like ass though.

poorfag here, any bway to flash a ipod touch 5th gen so i DONT have to use shitty itunes ?

>>61197723
Sell it on eBay and get an iPod Classic

>>61197764
what if i have a ipod classic thats a 2nd Generation? does that have a decent DAC?

>>61197690
>not enough space to spell "difference" guys

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>>61197809
be warned rockbox on 1st and 2nd gen has "SERIOUS ISSUES"

what's that one sony music player that cost like $900-$1,000? It has a big volume up and volume down button and it just looks so amazing overall

>>61197932
ZX1/ZX2
Or some other thing from their high end lineup.

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PSA: when hooked to USB, devices with rockbox work as media remote control. Pretty neat.

>>61197986
yeah it's the zx2, thanks anon :)

>>61198047
what cord is that?

>>61198149
standard micro-USB with flat cable

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>>61173074
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v36KMdiWHao

>>61174151
You might want to install some blinds or curtains for that window anon. They're not that expensive, especially if it's only for one window.

>>61198047
I remember I used to have one in highschool, this one kids phone kept dying and had nothing left so I let him borrow it time to time and I'll just pop out my SD card and he'll pop his in. Good times though, I wonder what happened to it

>>61173074
>Portable Media
YOUR PHONE!

>>61194772
Neat

>>61197517
>is there something bad about using the other supported players,
try getting ahold of those.

>Still have my Zune 16 and recently bought a Zune 80 for no reason.

sucks it has no rockbox support.

>>61198241
No

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>>61173074
Just use a V20 with the Quad DAC.
Go on, tell me why not.

>>61199598
wow that's huge and expensive

>>61199598
>getting a pmp that bootloops
shig

>>61199631
>bootloop
That meme applies only for the V10 and G5.
>>61199624
Huge? Yes, but you can do more than with a pmp. Expensive? Nope. You can get one for 285 where I live. That's only 370$.

>>61197583
There's a lock button that disables all of the buttons if that's what you mean?

>>61199664
>V10 and G5
Actually G4 started it.
Apparently 5X gets it too.

>>61189363
Chinese hate the japs they would disable it just because

finally this thread is back !! dont let it die

Fuck phone !

>>61199598
Have fun charging it every day

>>61197373
I have it, it's decent. I do miss rockbox's queueing features a lot though.

>>61173074
Is there any way I can make my old iPod nano 5g usable on Linux?

>>61200143
rockbox my man
or wine

>>61200195
As far as I can see Rockbox only supports the first and second generations of iPod nano...
Wine/iTunes reportedly doesn't work very well either.

>>61200206
maybe try wine+winamp

>>61191157
I have owned and used a Ruizu X02 near daily since april last year.

Last thursday I accidentally pulled my headphones out mid-song and I don't know what happened, because everything now sounds like shit (think I damaged the 3.5mm socket). Not the headphones as they still work fine with pc and I tried another pair.
I wouldnt let that put you off though

most of what >>61191393 says is completely true
i flashed mine with agptek a02 firmware as should everyone. haven't had any button problems. hes wrong about power too, if you shutdown properly (sleep mode) and then switch the power off everything stays fine, if you just switch the power off then it tends to go back to either where it was when you last powered on or a seemingly random point since.

>>61199664
>only 370$
my mp3 player was $20 and gets 80 hours of battery life

how long does the battery on that pos last? a day? two maybe?

>>61200143
Amarok has built in ipod support


>>61200195
>>61200206
>>61200225
hello retards

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>>61200143
I finally got it to work. You have to set up the HashInfo and SysInfo files correctly as described on the ArchWiki for example.
Then you can just use gtkpod. I tried gnuPod before that, which didn't work though.

>>61200125
that's all I need to hear, she's not using it more than for walks so it just needs a decent screen and be portable.

>>61200405
How do you feel about the sound quality?

Can I sort my music by folder structure?

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>>61202829
not him, but like this? i am on the stock firmware thought not sure how change with the agpk one.
As for the sound quality is really good and clear no hissing or shit, my KZ edr2 sound fantastic on it

>>61203295
>my KZ edr2 sound fantastic on it

Good to know because those are exactly my beaters to use at work with the upcoming X02.

I also need to get new tips for the EDR2.

>>61196859
nice, thanks mate
>>61197595
hehe, more like reeee-encode amirite? but seriously though, I have no flac files
>>61195535
suck my dick

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Alright ladies recommend me some a music player under 30 bucks

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Alright the Shanling M2s has finally arrived at Amazon warehouse. Just buy it.

/thread

Where to get ipod 5 composent, like LCD.
Do you know if there is a way to put usb c on it?

>>61187876
Cowon Plenue D.

>>61191293
Cowon Plenue D...again

>>61199598
>5 hours battery life
>B&O, apple x10 ripoff tier brand

no thanks

I don't want to give money to apple.
Is the walkman series from sony any good?
I had one of the usb thing, that was old, and looked liek a suppository but i loved it.
What''s a good walkman that outputs quality music and has a huge battery life.
I don't give a fuck whether there is a screen or not.
As long as i can customize how it plays shit on a computer, i'm game.

>>61206406
Walnut V2S
Zishan Z1

I got an iPod mini should I mod it and replace the HDD?

Using a Redmi 4A, in gsmarena review they have high marks for audio with headphones one, so you have an android PMP that can stream and a micro SD expansion for less than a Clip+ from eBay

>>61205155
>9 hour battery life
>no internal storage
literally useless, why would anyone buy this?

Are Walkmans still good?

>>61175627
The hd has some strange tagging system too. I'm unsure about the regular ones but I can't check either.
Need to write a program that lets you strip the tags from existing songs and apply them to others.
I'm not even sure if its global or on a per player basis.

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This thing is just beyond sexy. Convince me not to buy it.

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>>61208283

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>>61208304
It just looks so nice. Stylish yet thin and small.

>>61208388
Only issue is battery life isn't great about 8-9 hours and depending on bitrate of file it can heat up a bit.

Otherwise, great piece of kit for the daily commute that I love.

>>61189869

any ideas/speculation on what the X3 Gen 3 will have? it should be announced soon-ish. probably worth the wait?

>>61191106
i charge my ipod classic like once a month, andi charge my phone atleast once a day.

why should i further kill my battery life on the phone further when my ipod can handle it more efficiently?

also my car stereo only accepts idevices or music on a flash drive, if i plug my android in all it will do is charge it.

>>61190915
What if I bump the price range up to 100? Anything else become available then?

Recommend me <=$60 pmps, preferrably chink cause international shipping
Priority is sound quality and battery life, don't care about design or other features.
(Already own a walnut v2s)

I'm in Canada and i don't want chink shit.
decent storage of atleast 16 gigs is great, relying on memory cards is good too.
good quality output and being usb rechargeable like the ones sony has would be neat as well.

>>61173074
>I made the OP image
T-thanks

>>61209743
then get a sony

>>61207301
>needing internal storage when you can expand it with larger and faster microSDs.

>>61206406
Walkmans are nice. The UI is also actually good unlike all chink DAPs.

Is there a list of recommend music players?

>>61210395
Walkman A/S/ZX/WM.
FiiO players.
Shanling players.
xDuoo players.
Benjie T6 (T8 in the future). K5 for cheap shit.
Cowon players.
iRiver players. Even A&K players, but they are overpriced.
iPod Classic.

>>61190934
Looks like a vape

Between Sony NW-WM1A and AK380, which should I pick?

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XDUOO X3 or Fiio X3

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>>61184275
The problem is normies don't care about PMP's so they occupy a weird market space where nobody's that interested but the people that are, are willing to pay absurd prices, like Astell and Kern players

>>61208388
>no physical buttons

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KZ ED9 + Sansa Clip+ master race here. I listen to my anison during my break times at work. Comfy as fuck.

>>61194683
>>61194732
I love the modern Walkman logo, it really has that 00s aesthetic. I would love to have one of their modern players for that reason alone.

>>61209902
No problem, I'll use whatever nice picture you guys post of your media player for possible OP pics.

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>>61214291
Use mine

>>61215191
step up the brightness on the device maybe?

I'm trying to break free of the 2017 computing meme. I've already got myself a proper Thinkpad as a laptop, now I'm looking for a media player to go with it.
Any of you anons doing something similar, or did you just never stop using media players in the first place?

>>61215280
Ruizu from the /csg/ shills but
the meme setup should be:
-Thinkpad 420
-Porta pro Koss
-Sansa Clip + with Rockbox

>>61207301
Who cares about internal storage if you're gonna use an SD card anyway?
9 hours battery is shit though, that's also the only reason why I haven't bought an xduoo x3.

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>>61212351
They're on the left.

>>61215280
Just ordered a Ruizu X02 and I'm considering getting a dumbphone.

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YO /B/ROS, I'M FROM [insert board here]. I'M A RETARD WHEN IT COMES TO MP3 PLAYERS, YOU THINK YOU CAN RECOMMEND ME A GOOD ONE FOR UNDER $200?
your phone/htc m8

>YEEEAAAH BUT, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE CRAPY AUDIO QUALITY
dacs and amps in modern phones are just fine

>YOU SURE ABOUT THAT? I MEAN I WANT GOOD QUALITY
htc m8 ks comparable to mid level DAPs and its also cheaper than mid level DAPs

>BUT I DON'T WANT TO DRAIN MY BATTERY BECAUSE I NEED IT
music playback barely effects battery life, plus your average phone with last three times longer than even the most high end DAP. it's not 2008 anymore

>BUT I NEED STORAGE FOR MY FLACS, BECAUSE I CAN TOTALLY GEAR THE DIFFERENCE WITH MY POORLY MASTERED BLACK METAL AND ANIME MUSIC
new phones can support more than 256gb of space, and that's just the micro sd card

>YEEAH, BUT-
your phone has access to Spotify, SoundCloud, Bandcamp, YouTube, Tidal and your whole music collection you can play with hundreds of music player apps of your choice and you also have Bluetooth to connect with anything, what more do you want?

>>61176904
Super illegal. You'll get grounded if caught.

>>61216638
well someone is mad

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>>61216638

>>61216638

The pic is fitting for the content of the post.

>>61216674

yeah i'm not stupid enough to listen to lil yachty while i'm fenced in over the AO, and nobody wants to watch my tapes while we're driving in to work.

>>61216638
You're right on everything except the first statement.

>>61177970
Ruizu x02

I have the ruizu x02 and it just werks.

does the volume control on the ve monk plus work with any music player?

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>your real friend
>tfw

>>61217001
No that shit's only for smartphones

>>61217001
Some players support inline controls. Check their specs page.

>>61184854
I have an even older iPod photo and clicks happen, but it seems super stable. I'm sure the hdd will fail soon enough. It's only 20gb, I've been meaning to mod the thing forever but...just haven't. With your clip+ you really are getting everything you'd get with this iPod apart from a bit more storage and the need to use iTunes.

That said, I love ipods for some reason, and I'm sure you could sell that classic. Hell, I'd buy it.

>>61197723
Banshee works just fine

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>>61200143
Banshee

>>61204701
Check /csg/. I'm using a benjie S5 - great battery life, physical controls, expandable storage. Screen is a bit small, but since I use it when mowing/biking or otherwise active I just shuffle all or start a playlist and go. Almost 20 hours and still ~50% battery left.

>>61209440
See above.

>>61205211
eBay, aliexpress.
No. There may be USB c to 30 pin cables though.

Is this a good player?
https://www.amazon.it/AGPTEK-ROCKER-Bluetooth-Lettore-Supporta/dp/B01NBRJBOH/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499193580&sr=8-1&keywords=agptek+rocker

>>61185384
honestly fucking this

>>61176904
>i fly a fighter jet so sound quality is shot anyway.

don't want to force you into anything but can you tell me a bit more about this? sounds cool as fuck man.

t. hoping to be a USAF pilot in a few years

>>61177970
I have a sandisk clip sport, really nice imo. I got the only 4gb version for $35. it has a micro sd slot. I have a 64gb card in there.

>>61218490
As the iPod classic is a present I can't morally sell it (even if it's second hand)

The Clip+ is not really appreciated outside /g/ so I will check if the classic is compatible with my cars sound system, I mean using the onboard remote. That could be a good use for it

>>61219024

yeah so the primary goal of your comms is just that - to talk to other people over the radio. but there's definitely times when you're bored to death doing loops on ONE missions. here's an entire thread on baseops (the USAF flyer forum) on patch cables so you can listen to music while flying.
http://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/17-interphone-patch-cord/

anyways if you want to fly fighters, do well in school, look for leadership and sports positions, and do ROTC assuming you're not at the academy. that'll maximize your chances of getting selected for a pilot or CSO slot (the F-15E has WSOs, they all go through CSO school in Pensacola). once you've got your slot, keep studying and hope you've got normal vision. chairfly (visualize and practice) your rides, and understand the etiquette of flying - while you're pilot in command, you have to make your instructor happy too. if you're professional, smart (or at least well-studied), polite, and help out your classmates (after all, nobody graduates alone), you'll go far.

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>>61191954
>this assmad we can wipe out his shitstain village/town/country with impunity

kek

>>61191162
dude if I were a pilot I'd do the same, I'd have DANGER ZONE or some shit on full blast

>>61191380
bumping this

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>>61219126
thanks man, I'm actually in the Civil Air Patrol right now and planning to do AFROTC in college. you seem like a pretty cool dude, enjoy the rest of your day bro

>>61194208
Were the tags managed by iTunes or some other software? iTunes has a habit of ditching the id3 tags and building a little database of album art.

>>61219058
I get it. And I like the clip too, just never use mine. I did use them all the time at one point and now have a little collection of clips and pluses and one zip. But the old iPod and my phone tend to get the actual use.

It probably will work in your cars head unit and have the control accessibility, etc.

>>61216638
>POORLY MASTERED BLACK METAL AND ANIME MUSIC
I kek'd too hard

>>61219362
Yea I figured it out. It was with Google play music, I had to extract the album art and place it in a folder in the root directory

fiio x1 for 70$ seem okay or shit?

Astell&Kern AK JR looks really sexy, should I get one or can I have better for the same price range?

>>61220214
I doubt it has a long lasting battery

Someone tried the TheBit Opus#1 ?
How is it?

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Is the Refurbished Zune HD on amazon any good

>>61176477
it does all of those things pretty well. my scroll wheel gimped out after 2 years tho, kinda mad especially given how much I paid for it.

>>61222062
ZuneHD's are quite nice actually, nice and bright OLED screen.

Controls nicely, shame MS shut down the software apps so you can't download Audiosurf for it anymore.

>>61222665
Iirc you can still get the apps if you do some fuckery and download them yourself. I know zune boards use to have a guide on it but I don't know if that site even still exists.

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Can this be used as a OP pic?

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>>61223152
>Hideo Kojima takes better pictures of /pmp/ stuff than we do.

I bought a moto e for $12 new in box. It has SD card support and so I put a piece of Velcro on the back and Velcro on my dragonfly. It works but I may just go back to listening to music ony real phone, galaxy s4, I almost never use a phone so I don't see why I shouldn't.
Anyone else struggling to justify the purchase of a dedicated audio player? I feel like having a cool OTG supporting highly portable DAC like the dragonfly is superior

What Walkman model does Hideo Kojima have?

>>61223208
https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/882389785498624002

>>61223267
ZX1

Are there any good chink PMPs with Opus support?

None of the ones from companies like Benjie advertise Opus support at least

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Is this thing any good? For a plain MP3 player the brand and quality seem good enough and the price is right.

>PMP
its a DAP
Digital
Audio
Player

>>61212165
Fiio X3, much better in general, even you can play ISO files for super audio cds, with a good heaphones is bretty awesome

>>61173074
Some suggestions for OP:
Add a guide for iPod 6G/7G as well, it's pretty much the same as 5G anyway. Also the 3000mah battery is fake.
Change the clip zip battery line to "significant battery increase compared to 3.13". The battery increase was from the cpu scaling patches, which has been available on dev builds for a (long) while.
Remind people to use rockbox dev builds.
Maybe a list of recommended DAPs, and various resources (guides, reviews, ...)

Also the news section is kinda redundant. Might be better to make it shorter and limit it to actual news, like dap or software releases.

>>61223654
We need to step it up. >>61215191

>>61188400
unoffensive but fuck off to /hpg/

>>61194683
Do any of those support high-res audio? I like them too, but muh flac

>>61229359
Do you really think anything that old would support it?

Does anybody know why the fuck it's so hard to find anything short of a $500+ audiophile DAP in Australia? I just want a decent Walkman or something.

>>61230002
>Australia

Well there's your answer

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>>61174329
My original zune (zune30 maybe?) was such a great mp3 player. It lasted ages, the UI was gorgeous, it had simple drag and drop function, and the slidepad and buttons were the comfiest thing given the small form factor. I used to convert videos just to watch on it at work, and even with that tiny screen things still managed to be clear enough to read subtitles.

Now that I have a smartphone using anything besides an all in one device seems silly, even though phones will probably never eclipse the old slidepad in terms of nice controls. Is there any good argument to be made for mp3players other than avoiding the distractions of a phone? Ive considered getting another zune, but it seems rudundant if I have a note5.

>>61230598
Phones pale in the battery life department that's why.

>be listening to music on Sansa Fuze
>want to view an image
>not enough memory to do both at the same time
c-u-t-e

I feel this should be mentioned in the next OP.

https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SonyNWDestTool

It will allow you to remove the volume limiter/warnings (Europe) on most of the Walkman series.

It works a treat.

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ok lemme post some good looking "x02-like" players you can buy now on ali. by "x02-like", I mean they all have similar capabilities and software (some with greater internal storage or reported higher max microsd capacity, some even report better dac and amp chips), all have similar screens, similar body and controls, some have more buttons etc. but they're all pretty similar in how they operate, some are just nicer than the others. if you want just a plain old good player, just get the original x02.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-BENJIE-T6/32815136936.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2017-Newest-Original-BENJIE-T3/32799426698.html (same as T6?)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2017-HIFI-MP3-Player-16GB/32815054488.html
(x02 with nicer case, different controls, and more stylish UI?)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-RUIZU-X28/32804493654.html
("official" x02 update with better case and controls, up to 16gb internal and 128gb microsd)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-Brand-New-NiNTAUS-X10/32759313593.html
(fiio x1 class competitor?)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/BENJIE-T1/32801031044.html
(fiio x1 class competitor?)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/16824TW-25-ONN-X5/32602846305.html
(remodeled x02?)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015-new-X6/32531286201.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Original-RUIZU-X12/32798834612.html
(sansa clip ripoff, could be good)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-V2-MP3/32793286759.html
(walnut, good amp/dac but no screen and big)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/IQQ-C18/32800345538.html
(another more expensive player)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HIFI-Metal-Mp3-MP4/32597508894.html
(nicer case x02)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Xduoo-X2-Music-Player-Flac-Player/32276034517.html
(nice case, less software features, more clip-like)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/FiiO-M3-Music-player/32584812322.html
(fiio m3)

I excluded players that were just conversions to touch controls

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>>61232790
doing gods work anon

>>61232852
I tried to keep in $60 or lower. there are numerous players above that range too but they start to get into the DSD 24-bit meme category, dunno if the average person wants that. xudoo just released a new double-microsd player (last was x3), called the x11. looks pretty nice but $175

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>>61232790
>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-Brand-New-NiNTAUS-X10/32759313593.html
>(fiio x1 class competitor?)
Specs too vague

>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/BENJIE-T1/32801031044.html
>(fiio x1 class competitor?)
Got nothing on X1
>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/16824TW-25-ONN-X5/32602846305.html
>(remodeled x02?)
Hires player, so better than X02
>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Original-RUIZU-X12/32798834612.html
>(sansa clip ripoff, could be good)
Got nothing on Clip
>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Xduoo-X2-Music-Player-Flac-Player/32276034517.html
>(nice case, less software features, more clip-like)
One of the better ones. Still just a ATJ player, but has nice amp design.
>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/FiiO-M3-Music-player/32584812322.html
>(fiio m3)
Also ATJ. I think it's overpriced.

Some of those are "Hi-Res", but with the listed specs it's meaningless.
kekking at pic related

>>61232921
>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/16824TW-25-ONN-X5/32602846305.html

yeah looks good for the price, though I don't know about those controls, also I never know if I should trust chink sd card limitations, because this says it's only up to 32gb. also 7-band eq which is better than the usual 3-5 band you see in these players.

>>61173074
Could use this in the OP as well
https://www.iflash.xyz/3rd-party-extended-battery-guide/

New thread here
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