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First for actual last thread
>>61164872

Second for expensive 2133MHz DDR3L SODIMMs

If manage to get nc6220 on a low price, should I get one?

>>61171191
>Pentium M

No, no way in hell.

How much will I reduce the battery life of my T450 if I replace the screen with a 1080 one?
This http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-14-0-LED-LCD-IPS-Screen-FHD-Display-for-IBM-LENOVO-THINKPAD-T450-T450S-/192211525280 Is the screen I was thinking about. Would it even work?

Is a 200 euro chinkpad of the x line generally good enough for watching 720p movies on winblows? Do I need to pay attention to the graphics chip for that a lot?

>>61171326
X220 or X230. Don't worry about GPU for just 720p shit

>>61171299
But I already have 3 Pentium M laptops and one Pentium 4-M. What is there to be afraid?

Reminder to kill yourself if you've considered buying a newish Lenovo product instead of a 51nb board.

>>61171366
Thanks for answering. Ilu :3

I know some of you have been using the T420 for quite some time now, but would it make sense to buy a T420 in 2017?

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I'm about to get a bonus of about 7000 $ because I've been a good wagie, should I invest it in a P71 and throw away my 11 year old desktop computer (Athlon, 4 gb DDR3, mechanical hdd)

>>61171802
On a side note, I'd like to have something that I could keep 10+ years again. For outside, I use my company computer (t460s) but having a bit laptop instead of a desktop computer sounds really comfy because so I could also occasionally use it in the living room or on the balcony and stuff like that...

>>61171802
if you do, make sure to get an eGPU too

>>61171017
how and why got >>61164872 archived after just 35 posts?

>>61171851
The american posters went to sleep

>>61171856
I've never seen something such happening before.

What's a good OS to run on a T430 with 4gb RAM?

Got a x230 for next to nothing. 8gb ram, 256gb ssd. Came with Botnet 10. Remove it entirely? Or dual boot it with... what?

>>61173232
Any experience with Linux?

>>61173327
Only casually. Installed Xubuntu on an old PC. But looking to change that, learn things, etc.

>>61172709
Gentoo

>>61173232
GENTOO
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T
O
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>>61173407
I was in the same position. Start with Mint or Ubuntu until you learn common commands, then you can move on to something different.

>>61173554
Yeah I tried out Mint, but it seemed like Xubuntu was a better fit for me as well as the shit PC I was installing it on.

>>61173232
How much did you get it for? I want a x220 but I'm having a heck of a time finding one for a good price that isn't a stealth tablet. I might give up and go for an x230.

>>61173659
$80. Don't think they knew what they had.

>>61171851
People were asleep. Shame because I liked OP's pic

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>W510
>quadcore i7
>16GB RAM
>1080p
>256SSD
>new battery
>NVIDIA
>>>$230

Why does everyone not do this

>>61174373
W510 is already 16:9 cancer, so if you're OK with that, you should go all the way to W530 and get much better guts for the same price.

>>61174373
I wanted a newer CPU because of the better iGPU. Plus, anything up to x40 tends to have socketed CPUs.

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>Be me 3 years ago
>Doing bathymetry with my uncle
>We used T400 for data aquisition
>And some HP trash used as backup
>The poor thing endured the harshest conditions a laptop could possibly go through
>Being used on a boat 7 in the rain in a plastic crate turned on the side.
>Carried carelessly from trailer-office to the boat about 10 times a day
>I think to myself "god damn thats a good laptop, i want me a thinkpad."
>Fast forward a year or two
>Learn about the thinkpad meme status as the official /g/ laptop series
>Nothing has ever made more sense.
>Order a T420 a week ago
>Feels good man

Thinking about getting a memepad (UK here). I quite like the look of the T450, what would be a good price for one, currently seeing them on ebay for £350-400. My need isn't urgent so I'm happy to wait for a good price.


Or should I get a T460, is the performance increase worth it for what looks like an extra 100-150 squids?

>>61174742
Get Thinkpad yoga

>>61171000
>trying to take keyboard off
>broke a key

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEee


Can I glue it back?

>>61174930
fuck off nigger

>>61171829
build another desktop and get an x series that will actually last ten years

>>61174930
broke a key how? did you just pull off a keycap?
if so just push it back on you dumb nigger

Is arrow direct a reliable refurbisher? Or should I be wary?

>>61174373
>quadcore i7
1st gen cpus are 45nm cancer
enjoy you're housefire and shit battery life + performance

>>61175066
Yeah sure, I'm reliable refusbisher. Now gib me all you shekelz goyim.
>>61175100
Don't forget that if the dGPU on that shits itself, it's game over.

>>61174953
no fuck you

>>61175027
a tiny bit broke.
It won' stay anymore.

>>61175113
Any refurbishers that you would recommend?

>>61174853
why?

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Okay /tpg/ I asked this in the fake thread but I'll ask again. Do I buy this:
https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/sys/6199908028.html
T430 with 8GB RAM and 500GB HDD. Also comes with AC and battery. What do, /g/entlemen?

>>61175193
Yourself
>>61175198
Get Thinkpad E440 or E450
>>61175230
Get E430 instead

>>61175230
Shit, meant to put it's $100

>>61174742
>is the performance increase worth it f
the increase in cpu performance has been almost non existent since sandy bridge.

You only get better temps, and maybe more battery time.

the t450 should be fine, but what do you want it for?

>>61175230
grab it

>>61175318
Alright, thanks

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I have a simple question. I am an owner of a T420s which I love other than one giant glaring flaw. Said flaw is forcing me to have second thoughts unfortunately. So here it is, the screen f-ing sucks. I mean it sucks bad. It's the 1600x900 but just looking at it makes me want to gouge my eyes out. The question is, what is the oldest T series Thinkpad (or Latitude or Pavilion) I can get that actually has a decent modern looking screen?

>>61175452
701cs or anyother laptop with STN or DSTN panel

Should I jump on this or what? Is it a good price?

>>61174853
>Thinkpad yoga
Fucking disgusting.

>>61175512
I got a 701cs a while back and decided to put Gentoo on it. Been compiling KDE for quite a while now. Any other suggestions.

>>61175555
Forgot link ttps://m.newegg.com/products/9SIA5HA5D72881

>>61171802
Doesn't the P71 have a shitty hinge?

>>61175266
>E-series
what do you hope to gain

>>61175843
Hope? There is not hope for those who desire to buy <XX30 models

>>61175230
and I thought the $140 I paid for mine with nearly identical specs (+charger and battery) was good...

yes get it

>>61175555
>>61175593
too much

>>61176145
why do you think that?
muh modern? muh halfassed apple clone?

>>61175301
Just writing small programs/katas (for fun) around so I don't have to be tethered to my desk.

T4Fiddy it is.

>>61176355
turn off your trip, newfag

>>61176364
But mooooom, what if I forget to turn it back on again in the general where it's relevant?

how much for an x220t with 16gb 1333mhz ddr3 and 500gb ssd? (+ ips screen).
i7 2620m

>>61176544
$250

>>61176663
I'm eurocuck

>>61176679
€250

>>61171000
W530 owners, anyone have trouble upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10? I keep getting stuck at 32% of the upgrade process.

>>61176722
nevermind figured it out, it was that peice of shit quadro

>>61176332
>Why do you think that
>muh modern
>muh halfassed apple clone

Look there buddy. I have a shitty Dell 3340 which is a good example of modern days computer. Its made out of plastic and feels very cheap, the keyboard layout is a mess (like always from a computer that was made in 2014) and the genuine design is bad and unreliable.
This computer is not thinkpad but it does not have to be to show it's point being proven. As you know, lenovo has dropped a lot classic and foremost useful features like ultrabay, so called legacy ports, rollcage, the simplicity to take it apart, easy to repair because they went the hard way (more expensive route) when they created these computers (for example the power jack and how it is connected to the motherboard via a cable) and of course the keyboard.

There is no point buying a "thinkpad" that does not have the thinkpad features. You would be better off just buying a regular computer than overrated and thus overpriced thinkpad. As a user of T30,T40,T60,T61 and X220, I can't stand people who use newer machines than XX30 (I hate xx30 users as well) because they do not represent the kind of thinkpads or the "thinkpad experience" in a way compared with these older thinkpads. You lost ultrabay, proper keyboard, even then dedicated trackpoint buttons in xx40 generation, rollcage, socketed CPUs and Ram slots, third party batteries that work without a bios mod due to lenovo whitelisting (which also impacts on other components as well), thinklight, proper docks and sliced batteries and the classic purple enter key.

tl;dr Go die in a fire faggot and X60 computers only

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>>61177178
If ain't broken, don't fix it.
Thinkpads during 2006 were fine. They should have not changed them from there on. I can allow T400 but xx10 are out of the question since they don't have complete roll cage.

>>61177178

>"thinkpad experience"
>being hung up about a keyboard that is the same one on a shitty dell latitude

>>61177178
I see your pain, but
>socketed CPUs and Ram slots
Is all gone really that bad? The T440p still had socketed CPUs. Does the T460p have not? Too lazy to look it up myself, sorry. And what about RAMs, I guess not everything past XX40 is soldered, right?

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>>61177312
To my eyes, it's the same. So shitty layout that you have to stop and look down on the keyboard if you hit in the correct spot and to make things worse, try do it in dark without a backlight keyboard or thinklight.

>>61177509
i meant the old latitude and the x220 keyboards, which are both overrated shit. p

>>61177178
if you're the guy I replied to, you're a fucking idiot for mixing up your < and your >
check your post again

i cant fucking stand modern laptop keyboards and that along with price is the primary reason I use a thinkpad

>>61177509
I don't understand the hate for these kinds of keyboards. I'm able to hit the right keys in complete darkness without looking down at the keyboard.

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>>61177678
Do you mean these layouts? I do like this thinkpad layout because moar buttons and quite similar keyboard to a T60.
>>61177744
>you're a fucking idiot for mixing up your < and your >
That didin't come as a surprise. What I meant was that there is no hope to those who buy XX30 and newer laptops. XX30 can still have the 7-row keyboard so it's a bit acceptable.
>>61177870
Of course you are able to type but good luck on those function keys.

>>61177971
>but good luck on those function keys
I'm able to hit the right function keys too.

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>>61178034
Good luck doing that exact samething on computers that have come out for the last 12 years.

Samething with Russian prefering their T-72 over any new model because the crew already knows how to operate so it will be cheaper and effective that way.

Once thinkpad keyboard, always a thinkpad keyboard.

>>61171380
Why the fuck ask then?

>>61178587
I just wanted to know if you guys have any experince on those laptops.

>>61175452
You can get a T440s with a 1080p IPS screen, then replace the touchpad.

>>61178163
>Good luck doing that exact samething on computers that have come out for the last 12 years.

Or a keyboard that has come out in the last 40

>>61178668
Or the qwerty layout which have comeout in the year 1873.
But disregard that, I suck cocks.

>2570p autist hasn't postd in a while

I miss him

>>61179297
Well I don't.

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What is your advice /tpg/ ?

Looking for a laptop

Budget: 900 max
Location: USA
Size: 13" - 17"
Performance: preferably i7 as i run a good number of VMs. Max RAM something like 12GB+ is probably ok.
HDD is okay, will upgrade to SSD. Prefer sata SSD vs m2
Other requirements:

Has to have:
- to be able to run current distros of linux.
- docking station / ability to connect 2 external displays
- 1080 minimum res.
- wifi

like to have:
- ability to fit 2 x SSD / HD
- bigger screen a plus
- USB 3
- backlit keyboard and / or thinklight
- numpad

enjoy the webm as thanks for your advice

>>61179297

His shitty laptop broke and he's only got a dumbphone.

>>61179466
>enjoy the webm as thanks for your advice
No, I don't like 3D grills.

just bought a t420 and am running linux now

to whoever made the buying guide: t-thanks

>>61171000
I had all thinkpad generations from t30 up to t440 and the best chassis is from the t61 t400. i just tlove that keyboard and its not as filled with glue and rubber as in t410-t430. t61-t400 is the best chassis

I would like to replace the 1024x768 screen in a 14,1" T60 with a 1400x1050 panel. Do I have decent options?

So, is this basically the Thinktard containment thread? How does it feel to be in the same boat as /pol/ in your peers' eyes?
>Posted from my Mac

Did Lenovo move all the drivers for systems older than the T420 to a legacy page somewhere that I can't find, or did they just take them down entirely?

>>61180281
They took them down

>>61180301
I was going to put Linux on this T400 anyway so I don't care too much, but thanks for letting me know

>keys getting that shiny look, alcohol not removing it
How do you keep your laptops looking good anons?

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I bought a P51 with an i7-7700HQ, a Quadro M1200M and 16GB of RAM for $3600, the sales person lied about the shipping date so I canceled the order. I went on Gumtree and bought a used P50 with a Xeon E3-1505M, a Quadro M2000M and 32GB of RAM for $3800.

The guy is a typical Chinese student in Australia who's parents buy them everything, he has hardly used it, it has no dust in the heat sinks and the stickers are impeccable.

How'd I do?

>>61180374

>alcohol not removing it

Its physical wearing down of the gritty surface you stupid fuck. There's nothing for the alcohol to remove.

>>61180446

>it has no dust in the heat sinks and the stickers are impeccable.

You sure looked at all the important aspects of a used laptop, well done. I always thoroughly inspect stickers upon purchase.

>>61180475
Haven't got it yet, that all I could see from the photos he sent. Of course I'll check those.

I have an opportunity to get a Yoga 2 Pro for $320 AUD, which is basically fuck all. Only issues are that the HDMI port doesn't work, and it's missing one screw in the casing.

Should I cop it or not?

I'm thinking of getting a T60, I currently have a T420.

Does anybody know where to get a T60 in Canada. I found one on Newegg for $172 CAD (Tntel Core Duo T2300, 4 GB Memory, 160 GB HDD), but that seems a bit expensive to me. Any other places?

>>61180873
>$172 CAD
That's way too much for a T60.

>>61180873
T60 should be $25-50 on ebay

>>61181069
I found one for $119 for 2GB RAM, 80GB HDD. That seems a bit more reasonable to me.

>>61181090
Be patient and check ebay and the like. $119 is too much as you (most likely) want and need to pay for more RAM, a new HDD or SSD and a better CPU as well.

>>61180505

Mate, I was being sarcastic. Jesus Christ.

I was given a T61. Wanted to install core/libreboot but realized that it only supports T60. What should I do with it?

>>61180639
yeah

>>61171000
Would there be a problem with using a 7mm HDD in a T420? Will it somehow bounce around?
The average size seems to be 9mm, but a 7mm is what I will be moving over from a T420s.

>>61174742
Your bench is terrible.

T440S + T450 touchpad goat

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>>61175452
M14x display
I have one on eBay for $270, you can get screens for $50
It makes a fucking big difference, swap it out.

>>61178163
Godspeed anon, we need more like you.

>>61179466
Damn... she is as hot as Mylene Farmer

>>61181476
Install Xubuntu and call it a day

r8 my purchase
>X260
>8 gb ram
>i5-6200U
>256gb SSD
>FHD display
>refurb from lenovo outlet

>$600
that was a while ago and I haven't seen a computer with specs like that show up for that price on the lenovo outlet since then.

>>61177971
>What I meant was that there is no hope to those who buy XX30 and newer laptops.
whereas I thought you were one of these nu-thinkpad shills

>>61182313
You did good.
Arguably, you could of found a better deal or better tech for price if you stayed on eBay, but I would recommend getting the extended warranty if you don't want to swap the mobo.

I don't know if there are any issues with the X260... not many users have them here or on TPF.

>>61181848
Just add paper to it if it bothers you. If you have some sort of rubber rails, it should be ok. The 2mm flex of it 'going up and down' shouldn't really affect the SATA connection.

From the pastebin:
>Alienware 1600 x 900 TN screens, however, are known to be very nice (almost IPS-like), and run well on them.
Which ones exactly? There are a ton on eBay.

>>61182735
the M14X one

How well do N64 emulators run on a X200 with P8600?

How hard is it to get a x220 or T420 battery that isn't shit that will die in a month, and how much would that cost? Checked ebay but I don't trust 99.9% of the cheap sellers

I listened to you guys and now one month in the keyboard on my x230 just started breaking. The zxcv and ,. keys dont respond anymore . Is this a known issue? I was playing with the think light not long before, as of now I'm just going to try and find keyboard drivers.

>>61172709
Most linux distros that don't have shitty DEs
So no KDE

>>61174373
>1st Gen core cpu
I'd rather set my ass hair on fire and run naked in an apple store while rubbing an iphone on my dick

>>61179297
Me too :(

>>61179466
Not sure if you can swap out the optical for a caddy on newer thinkpads
Maybe try a 3k w540 with a pad swap? I think that supports a hard drive caddy too?

Tpg is pretty slow lately

>>61186104
yeah I don't know what happened

>>61186116
2570p guy isn't shilling anymore
:^(

>>61180505
Christ on a bike...

>>61186480
This.
His stupid ass literally kept everyone busy

Just bought a t430 with 8gb of ram and a 256 sad, what should I do with it first?

>>61175136
nothing you can really do besides replacing the whole keyboard. or harvest the key from another broken keyboard

>>61187138
install gentoo

>>61175230
Absolutely grab it, fuck that anon shilling for garbage tier E-series shit.

>>61175266
Why an E-series over another series?

>>61187829
Read the thread. If you ain't buying XX20 or XX30 (XX30 not recommended on my book) what is the point buying XX40 and latter?

Is the T400 still a usable daily driver? I'm considering downgrading because they're dirt cheap. I have a dead T420 that I'd be taking 8gb of RAM and an SSD from.

>>61188195
Anything C2D and up is fine

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>>61171000
did i do good?

>>61188302
for buy it now, yeah you did ok

>>61188302
>buying evil corp stuff
shame on you

>>61188643
what do you think would have been a better price? has the 1440x900 screen.

>>61189568
$130 is pretty good, especially for buy it now
dont feel bad anon

so whats the normal temps for a x230?

and such theres any tut on how change termal paste?

>>61173232
Osx sierra

Im looking into getting a business laptop for school. General question: should I avoid anything that is underneath 1080p resolution? I feel like compromising 1366x768 will lead to instant buyers remorse

>>61184024
Some batches(or all of them, I don't know) of x230(even t430) has build quality issues. You should've gone with a 2570p(amazing build quality) or x220(similiar to x230 in construction but more robust than x230)

>>61190379
and thats why i swapped the keyboard of my x230, i dont like the chiclets.

>>61189992
Go with higher resolution
I'm in university with an X220 machine only (not even a monitor) and when working seriously I always wish I had a bigger res and screen.
Don't get me wrong, it's a cute and comfy shitposting machine.
I'd say go with higher res unless you have an external monitor

>>61190657
Is there a difference of durability between your new x220's palmrest vs x230's? I heard that x230's palmrests are prone to breaking over the express card slot. Does this happen with x220's palmrest too?

>>61190771
I mean "new x220 palmrest"...I mistakenly implied that you might own an x220

>>61190379
>x220(similiar to x230 in construction but more robust than x230)

Is this really true? I've never tried one but I'm tempted to since I found one pretty cheap. I love my X220 but you can't turn down a good offer, can you?

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If I'm Scottish what websites/stores are usable over here for cheaply priced tech? I know There's thrift shops in America which I've seen LGR use but what's our equivalent?

>>61191052
That's the general opinion here. The thinkpad line according to /tpg/, deteriorates from early ibms to t440p, and then began to improve little by little to current thinkpads(which are still shit). If you are getting a good deal and can justify the upgrade from x220, by all means go for it.

>>61188302
Nope

Trying to buy a new laptop, one that will preferably run league of legends at 60 fps on medium at least.

I've narrowed my choices down to a lenovo t530 for 430CAD and a Dell Precision M2800 for 470 CAD.

Lenovo T530
>2.90GHz
>8gb ram
>500gb hdd
>Core i7 -3520M
>1600x900 display
>nvidia nvs 5400m

Dell Precision m2800
>2.60 GHz
>6gb ram
>128gb ssd (I'm assuming I can replace the optical drive and add another hdd)
> i5 4210m
>FHD 1920x1080 display
>Radeon Firepro W4170M 2GB

www.ebay.ca/itm/272685718682
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Dell-Precision-M2800-i5-4210m-2-6ghz-8GB-Ram-128GB-SSD-15-6-Windows-10-Pro-/122572545433?hash=item1c89e49d99:g:vYEAAOSwLcNZVWYx


Which is better?

>>61190771
let me clear things here.

i own 2 X220t and one X230T, i have swapped the keyboard on the x230t for the classic one, the x220/T420 keyboard.

and yes, the original one on the X230t is more flimsy ,mine didnt had any cracks over the express card. tho

>>61191303
elaborate

>>61191161
ebay and gumtree but don't expect great prices like the americans get

>>61191242
>current thinkpads(which are still shit)

They're not though.

I am fairly sure current Thinkpads are stronger than x20 series.
And they certainly are lighter and have much better screens.

My only beef is you need to get at least a P50 to have a quad core without throttling. - thanks, thin meme.

>>61191761
the P50/70 series are indeed better than the crap they started shitting up atfer the X220.

If they only offered the classic keyboard as an option.

>>61171000
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-ThinkPad-X201-120GB-SSD-2-5GHz-8GB-Ram-Intel-I5-/302370063213?hash=item4666a9036d:g:AQ0AAOSwyltZWKGN

Is this a fine deal?

>>61191742
Fuck. I was wondering why deals didn't seem as great as other where getting. Still probably worth getting an X220 though...

>>61177498
all cpus past 4th gen are soldered
the intel jews got us

>buy a T440p with the 1080p screen
>hear people talking about 1080p IPS mods
>assume it's TN
>find out it's IPS
>mfw the colors on my £240 laptop are nicer than my computer that cost 4 times as much

Goddamnit.

>>61191761
>I am fairly sure current Thinkpads are stronger than x20 series.
You mean T20? T60 and T61 are the strongest thinkpads there are along with T400 or XX00 series.

>>61192203
that's what happens when you buy chead tn monitors

Im going to the states should i buy a x230 or bring my t450?

>>61194165
Never take anything with you to the states, unless you want it to be taken away because "you're suspect of hiding cheez pizza on your pee cee"

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Which thinkpad is this?

>>61171613
I'm wondering this as well. It's between that or a t530 for me

>>61194357
But im canada so im safe

>>61189537
So I see you're running Gnome.

>>61193631
I bought it five years ago when I was a notech scrub. It's served me well and I can't justify getting a new monitor until an affordable 4K/144hz/Freesync/IPS one hits the market, I'm just worried this'll weaken my resolve.

>>61194452
A30

Hi /tpg/.
Looking to buy a laptop for my younger brother who is going away for college. He's not going for Comp Sci/Eng or anything real computationally heavy.
Is this refurb'd T440 worth the 307 burger bucks?

>Intel Core i7 2620M (2.70GHz)
>8GB Memory
>160GB SSD
>1600x900 Res
>win7 pro
>1 year warranty

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=9SIA77G4S72914

>>61195480
T420*

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>weights +7.5lbs (3.4kg) and 1.9inch (4.8cm) thick
>Pentium 4 mobile (literal housefire)
>integrated floppy drive
HNNNGGGG
I found my daily driver.

>>61171613
The screen is trash and they are heavy. I sold both of ,one recently because they're basically outdated at this point. Not worth it now.

Wha'ts a good convertible for notetaking?

>>61196032
x230t

>>61195480
Too expensive, considering T420's go for 'dirt cheap', according to most people here.

>>61196032
X220t, the X230t has a backlit keyboard (utterly repulsive and heretical when you have ThinkLight, god's humble gift to us petty laptop peons) and provides a very marginal increase in palpable performance. Also it has an odd number in the name, that's gay as fuck

Should I go for a x230 or a t430s?

Thinkpad (refurbished is fine) for $150? It would be used for internet, Microsoft products, apps, video editing, listening to music, etc. Screen isn't really important and neither is battery life, but looking for the best bang for my buck, my old Toshiba died on me and need a new laptop for cheap. Can anyone point me in the right direction please? Thanks.

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Anyone know how well these stickers work in conjunction with the thinklight? For someone just learning computing.

>>61196787
Don't put stickers on your kb. Seriously, you'll come to regret it, the texture is repulsive

>>61196403
>utterly repulsive and heretical when you have ThinkLight, god's humble gift to us petty laptop peons) and provides a very marginal increase in palpable performance. Also it has an odd number in the name, that's gay as fuck
seek help

>>61171000

Just picked an used T440.

> i7-4600U
> 8GB ram
> Full HD, TN Display, non-touch
> ANSI keyboard
> Extended battery
> 240GB SSD
> Lenovo warranty until Jan. 2018
> 500€

I am pretty much happy, it's not that bad after all, at least not as they depict it.

The clicky touchpad is quite a cancer, but i am getting used to it and might replace it in the future.

Previously: W530, X220, T42, T22

>>61197685
There is no help for me. I have ascended to a greater plane of Thinkpad, I am now a ThinkMan

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>>61196683
X230 unless you really need the extra working room. The T430s has meh battery life since the main is limited to a 48 Wh. Though you can install an ultrabay battery that tends to lose substantial capacity within a year since the system ends up draining it to 0% before moving onto the main. OTOH the X230's 6 cell is 60 Wh and there's an option for 9 cell

>>61197941
Well then

So how about that 3g modem.
Anybody ever tried to see if it worked?
And what if i decided to put a gsm card in there and use my laptop as my phone.

>>61196731
Newegg has some refurbished T4xx in that price range i think, maybe a little bit more.

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should i use Qubes os in my x220? I have:
>i5 2520m
>16g ram
>256gb ssd msata
>500gb hd sata3

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x230, $185, IPS, HDD, broken on two sides (pic related - one of them), but working
x230, $250, TN, SSD, good condition
t430, $250, TN, HDD, good condition, high capacity battery
Which one is better to carry on sometimes?

what would be good, comfy and reliable FHD used laptops to buy?

>>61199445
>16g ram
Why on earth would you need this much ram on a laptop

>>61199691
R when away from the office

>>61199691
>ramdisk
>vm
>multiple tabs
>vydia
u choose

What is so good about tp keyboards? Will they drastically increase my typing speed? Should I buy one(t430/t420), just for the keyboard and trackpoint?

>>61199851
From what I understand, on the older keyboard the layout is almost optimised for programming with different key combinations being easy to do

>>61199871
So if a person has never used a TP keyboard(or a laptop keyboard for that matter), is there a reason to prefer tp keyboard over, let's say, an elitebook's keyboard? How far a downgrade is an elitebook's(specifically 2570p) keyboard(and trackpoint) as compared to Thinkpad's?

Is T420 supposed to struggle with 1080p/60FPS MP4s? It's dropping frames like mad and just freezes completely after some time in MPC-HC (hardware decoder) on Windows (need it for work). It's got an i5-2410M and 5GB of RAM, also an SSD but I don't think that's relevant.

Anyone with T430/X230?
How's the trackpad in those models?
I can get deal with chicklet keyboard, but the no buttons trackpad is too much.

>>61200069
>T420
Do you have the i5 2520m or the core2duo.
I can play rocket league just fun on the i5.

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>>61179297
Here you go

>>61200069
>1080p/60FPS MP4
Yes, With no dGPU it will struggle.
>hardware decoder
That work only for H264 encode, any other it still use SW decoder.
Under linux with mpv I can get better performance, using OpenGL profike which uses less CPU intensive filters.

>>61200353
>>61200400
Okay, thanks for the info, I appreciate it.

>>61200471
Cpu is upgradable tho, an i5 2520m is pretty cheap on ebay, like 35usd i think

>>61200498
I'd rather put that money towards the media center I'm planning to make, since I don't necessarily need to watch stuff on my ThinkPad, and it handles everything else nicely.

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Just grabbed an X200 on ebay for $60. CPU ID is P8700 so I can flash libreboot with no problems. Good condition and everything works. Should I have offered less or did I get a good deal?

>>61200347
The xx30s have trackpad buttons though
Also it's big enough
I still use my trackpoint most of the time

>>61175230
>https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/sys/6199908028.html

just do it... it's a good deal.

>>61200353
The T420 doesn't come in c2d?

>>61175266
>E line
>over a T430
You good my man?

>>61179466

what movie is this scene from? must fap, i mean must watch this movie.

>>61180446

you did badly consider you bought a used... $3800.

>>61200690
>Mylene Farme

you said you "just grabbed", you can still offer less? Or did you mean you just bid on it for $60?

>>61200752
A used that has better specs for the same price it would've taken to upgrade the dgpu
You're not too good into reading are you?

>>61200782
Some sellers let you offer anything as long as you agree to buy it if they accept.

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Did I screw up?

>>61200882
The X131e chromebook is superior

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>>61199497
Pls respond

Is there a good thinkpad with 'good' graphics?
(Not intel integrated bs)

i hate how easily the expresscard pops out of my thinkpad. pretty much all thinkpads have this problem, right?

>>61200993
Bunch of them have some nvidia crap instead.

>>61200882
>no trackpoint
You tell me anon

>>61199497
>>61200938
Ouch.
You can replace the palm rest though
If you're going to carry it sometimes I'd say go for the T430 but it I think a better way to think about it is
Which of following would be cheaper
>buying a palm rest plus extras
Or
>buying just extras
By extras I mean an extended battery for either one of the x230s or an ssd instead of the HDD

>>61200837

I don't think anyone buys expensive thinkpad on here in /tpg/ :p

>>61200839

Right, but you already bought it right?

>>61199597
T530/W530 or T440s/p with a pad swap

>>61201247
Yes they do but it's not much
I've seen a lot of people with xx60s and x1 carbons and xx70s or the more common P50/P70

>>61173659
i got an x230 for $180
soo worth it.

>>61201064
Expresscard doesn't have a locking mechanism much like SD cards
They just recess and rely on being flush and not being able to snag on anything and the friction of the socket
It's really annoying with egpus since you have this huge cable sticking this

>>61200993
W series or P series (like the P50)
Some p variants have normie cards like the T440p has a 730m I think? It's better than an igpu

>>61201338
i thought i saw someone modded their expresscard slot so that the cards are much harder to pull out or even locked in. i think they used screws. i cant remember where i saw that though.

>>61201394
I just put tape on my cards so they're just thick enough to not get tugged when I move my laptop on my table

>>61201338
Great design isnt it.
Who could possibly have seen it coming.

>>61201450
I guess nobody thought we'd dangle shit off the cards

Help me out bros, I already have Dell D610 (getting quite old, but physical com and lpt ports are nice for some shit I do) and Asus G75VW (which is too fucking heavy to lumber around daily). I'm looking for a third laptop:

Budget: doesn't matter
Location: Eastern Yurop
Size: Max 14 inch
Performance: Must be able to run (smoothly) VS2017, a test instance of MSSQL Server 2016 with Managment Studio (and some light gayms, but I only play once a week, and it's shit even the D610 could run so I guess those won't be a problem)
Other requirements: Would be real fucking neato if it had a 10G ethernet port and the option to swap optical drive for additional battery, but it's not a must.

Thanks.

Two questions.

1, is it worth upgrading my T440p from a 4300M to a 4700MQ (2c4t to 4c8t)?

2, is there anything better than ebay for trying to buy old laptop CPUs? Chinese bulk sellers or something.

>>61200386
Hey m8, answer honestly,
Is the keyboard and trackpoint really shit on 2570p or just mediocre? Keeping in mind I've never used neither a trackpoint nor a thinkpad keyboard before.

>>61201628
Unrelated to this, but they took the website page down for the T440p a while ago. Anyone know how to find the original price of the base laptop and all the options?

>>61201669
It's not shit. Don't listen to butthurt thinfags who say all non-classic-shitpad keyboards are bad. It's decent at least.
The only issue with 2570p trackpoint is that it doesn't have a middle scroll button, but it's not a big deal if you're using windows. You can just use right button for both standard right click function and strolling.
Oh, and the stock black/blue trackpoint rubber is bad. It's advised to remove it immediately and use thinkpad "soft dome" one.

>>61201885
scrolling*

>>61199445
>x220
>16gb ram
no, get x230

Anybody got any experience on how Win10 (compared to 7) runs on x200/x200s?

>>61201885
>>61201896
Okay anon, Thanx for the advice/tips.
I'm going with 2570p over t430/x230...hopefully I won't regret it.

>>61202454
It all depends on your needs. My 2570p is rarely used via internal screen. Normally it's always docked to triple 1920x1200 screens via eGPU, so I don't give a fuck about poor viewing angles of internal screen. All I care about is small dimensions, USB 3.0 dock, quad core cpu and lots of storage space options, as it's used as a desktop computer.
But it might be painful if you're going to run multiple VMs on internal screen.

>>61202631
Oh that's fine then, I'm too short on money to buy a replacement screen anyway. Also, I've heard that the stock tn panel on 2570p is better than stock x230, so there's that.
I'm just going to be using it for uni work(computer engineering course) and light gaymen. High Durability is a big plus, especially when I've seen multiple reports of x230/t430's plastic construction wearing out fairly quickly. The only doubt that I had was about the keyboard+trackpoint, which you've answered about already.

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How is pic related for $200?

My biggest concern is battery life, so I'm debating between the x220 in the pic, an x230 tablet, and possibly an x230. The regular x230 seems more expensive on ebay. Assuming I buy a new battery and use an SSD in all three, which has the longest battery life/best value?

>>61199421
I just found a t430 for $148.98, thanks!

How much of a difference is there between a T450 and a t460?? I can get a t450 with an HD+ screen or a t460 with shitty HD screen. The rest seems to be the same, other than the CPU being of a newer generation in t460.

>>61203068
x230 > x220 > x230 tablet
the tablets can't get extended 9-cell batteries, unless you go third party

>>61203560
Get the better screen.

>>61203595
The the x230? The screen is so small not to mention it's a low resolution. Also the x220 is libreboot compatible iirc.

>>61203697
X230 also has newer cpu, better graphics performance, and USB 3.0

>>61203758
Also the new keyboard too, I see your point.

>>61203766
Precision keyboard is better.

>>61203068
>>61203595
>>61203758
>>61203697

So should I go with the x220 in >>61203068 and buy a new SSD or should I go with an x230 like http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X230-Laptop-12-5-IPS-i5-3320M-2-6GHz-8GB-128GB-SSD-WIN7-Pro-64b-/381653633311?hash=item58dc54491f:g:RHsAAOSwGjpXS~mu#viTabs_0 ?

>>61203912
I would recommend an X230, but not that one, $290 is ridiculous

>>61203948
It's $242 + $13 shipping for me, but yeah it is quite steep. It's one of the cheapest x230 ips nontablet models that I've seen on ebay so far.
IPS is kinda important to me. Sucks that the x220 and x230 have low res though.

>>61204137
Dunno what the state of the market is over there but I just picked up a T440P with the IPS screen for £240. Not sure how typical that is.

>>61204137
I had an X230 with and without IPS and I don't think it's that big of a deal

but if it is and the resolution bothers you then you can always spend about $130 for 1920x1080 IPS swap

https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=122640

>>61204165
Yeah Na m8, ips is a must in the current year

>>61205286
if anything the opposite is true, new TN monitors are far better than old ones

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Original-Cooling-Fan-For-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440p-42M25M-Cooler-Radiator-Cooling-Fan-Heatsink/32661901942.html?trace=msiteDetail2pcDetail

Planning on swapping out my i5 for a 4700MQ. Worth swapping the cooler for the DGPU one? Is it even physically possible?

How much does battery life and temps improve from Broadwell to Skylake and Kaby Lake? Jewntel says a lot, but I don't trust them. Haswell and Broadwell thinkpads are getting pretty cheap nowadays, and if the difference is like half an hour and 5ºC I would grab them over Skylake or Kaby

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>tfw T40 is thinner than T60 or T61
But with the exchange of not having a rollcage

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Need an upgrade from my x220. Needs to be able to run solidworks and shit for uni - could use EGPU but it looks like a bomb

>>61206458
desktop

>>61206789
Needs to be a portable machine to take in - otherwise i would use my Mac Pro

>>61206810
remote into mac pro

>>61180281
>>61180301
There's a legacy page
https://download.lenovo.com/eol/index.html

>>61201245
I thought about t430 at first, but it weights almost as much as my current 15 inch laptop, and x230 turns out to be a better deal. Turned out that cracked one already has extended battery (20% wearout though). Probably I'll take that one and replace the palmrest.

Where can I download a recovery CD for my T430?

>>61208564
see
>>61207459

also try
http://pcsupport.lenovo.com/gb/en/lenovorecovery

anyone install arch on a x230? is it an easy install? anything i need to know?

replying with some link that tells me everything is fine too

>>61208830
Install gentoo

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I live in the UK
w-why is it going to Seoul?

>>61208830
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/installation_guide

have fun

>>61208856
ah shit thanks. they have a whole article just for x230

>>61208830
Ever install Arch before?

>>61208908
yeah that part isn't a problem. just wanted to see if there was any post-install stuff for the laptop

>>61178163
In b4 armata

should I trade in my thinkpad t60 with 1680x1050 resolution monitor into best buy for $75?

>>61171000
Opinions on t520?

>>61210050
probably best deal you would get on it

>>61210050
Yes

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>tfw bought my first ThinkPad
Thank you /tpg/

When i turn my keyboard back light on, one of the keys is yellow rather then white. It's only that key, not the area around it.

Did my t430 have an accident?

>>61210648
cum stain, clean the keyboard

>>61210668
How did cum get on only one key? And of all keys who the fuck would cum on F6, It's a subpar key at best

What's a good laptop that can do light gaming, has an IPS panel, and the best screen?

Preferably under $1.5k and lots of HDD space. Actually, can't I just store anime and manga on an external HDD and connect it to a laptop instead?

>>61210809
Primarily using it to WATCH anime, multitask (20-30 tabs open at once), and READ manga. I want the BEST screen, or a great one at the very least.

>>61210809
>can't I just store anime and manga on an external HDD and connect it to a laptop instead
thats literally impossible

>>61210839
anon, all I want is a laptop with an amazing screen with enough HDD space so I can watch my anime.

>>61210848
do what i do and buy a shit ton of 2.5" hdds, a sata to usb3 cable, and a used surface pro.

>>61210856
>2.5" hdds
Any one in particular?
>surface pro
How does that compare to the XPS 13/15?

>>61210868
>Any one in particular?
i just use whatever i have lying around
>How does that compare to the XPS 13/15?
its a used og surface pro. its shit. but it was also only 150.

im gonna replace my msi gs60 and my surface pro with a latitude e6410, upgraded to i7 740qm, 8gb ram, 256gb ssd + hdd caddy. dual boot some type of linux and w7 or 10.

>>61210900
macbook pro with retina display

>>61210809
>Preferably under $1.5k

that's a big budget, there are many options.

>and lots of HDD space
define lots

>Actually, can't I just store anime and manga on an external HDD and connect it to a laptop instead?
yes you can

>>61210697
your cum, your problem m8

>>61211068
>that's a big budget, there are many options.
such as?
>define lots
let's say 2-8 terabytes

New thread:

>>61211132

>>61210856
>2.5" hdds

>disgust.jiff

>>61210070
It's okay

>>61195480
Look at the Dell Latitude series. Those are really nice systems as well. You can get one for around 150 with an i5, 4gb mem, 250-320ish hdd,

you can upgrade as you go, but they're tight systems

Why are so many people going for ancient thinkpads? My T61p is a fucking dead horse for just about anything but bare bone basic word processing, and checking email, watching videos are just laggy, and some keyboard keys keep getting harder and harder to hit, thats even after cleaning and lubing the jacks after they're having problems. and thats with an SSD and 8gb DDR2.