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Alright, so is HBM really a meme?

I mean, we all know Polaris is decent, the RX 580 is at the GTX 1060 level, even superior on Vulkan and DX12 (uses more energy tho)

So Polaris gets on GTX 1060 levels without HBM, and Vega gets at 1070/1080 levels with it? If you think about it, it doesn't make sense. Vega is not Polaris + HBM, is actually a whole new architecture, I'd expect that if you remove HBM from Vega, it would still perform better than Polaris.

In the end, it seems HBM just increases production prices massively, delivers small improvements and uses ~35% of the die size.

Why didn't they just improve Polaris and drop the HBM meme? Use that shit only on professional cards.

Having that said, Pascal is just too good, solid improvements, good price drops and great TDP, very hard for AMD to compete.
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>>61169822
The drivers are literally Fiji and not using any of Vega's features. They probably have incomplete but working Vega drivers, didn't want to release them with FE Vega due to stability issues.
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bump for Lisa
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>>61169822
Because for the last 5 years AMD was doing nothing but badly copying every Nvidia did. Volta was announced ages ago so AMD had to jump on the HBM2 meme too. Meanwhile it turns out Volta lineup is some unholy combination of HBM2 and GDDR6.
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>>61171043
Volta is apparently still GDDR5X.
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>>61169822
It's not new arch. It's fury 2.0
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>>61171052
No, it's prob. using GDDR6 and coming out late Q1 2018.
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>>61171060
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/upcoming-geforce-gtx-cards-use-gddr5x-not-hbm2.html
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>>61169822
VEGA is underperforming housefire.
HBM isn't ready for mainstream because of stock shortages.
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>>61169822
Yes, HBM2 is a meme. That's why Nvidia are using it for their Tesla cards as well. Both companies love memes and making bad cards.
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>>61171069
https://fossbytes.com/nvidia-volta-gddr6-2018/
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>>61171230
>The company announced that it has started to mass produce GDDR6 DRAM chips for graphic cards

You know that could be Vega 11?
Which releases in the same timeframe, hilarious enough.
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>>61171249
I believe this as well, mobile APUs will probably use some variation of which I would dub Vega 12, smaller than Vega 11, and those have *DDR controllers.
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>>61171249
>trusting RTG release schedule after vega
AYYY LMAO
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>>61169822
ayy lmao
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>>61169880
>The drivers are literally Fiji and not using any of Vega's features
it's a rumour
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>>61169822
Wait for Navi
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