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AMD takes more market from Intel

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>people waiting for Skylake-X
>it was a turd
>people that waited got Ryzen

Meanwhile what is happening to Intel is gonna happen to AMD's GPU division as well, thanks to Vega, but who cares, Nvidia's GPUs aren't TOO overpriced like Intel's top end gear is.
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>>61169715
Skylake based Xeons' where it's at
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>>61169753
Yeah, they're at least tolerable since they're not fucking housefires since Intel doesn't crank the clocks on server platforms
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>>61169715
>it's real
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/market_share.html

Pissmark is garbage but at least they have this graph going for them.
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>>61169753
I'm sure everyone will be clamoring for those 400w Xeons.
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It's because of buttcoin and only extremely temporary. Ryzen has nothing to do with it.
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>>61169715
Good.
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>>61169772
What the fuck are you talking about? People don't buy CPUs for mining, jackass.
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>>61169772
Lol
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>>61169753
no one gonna buy it if they keep using ring bus design
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>>61169772
>CPU marketshare
>It's because of buttcoin
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>>61169715
>just 3 months
>10%
impressive.
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>>61169777
There are actually a few that are good with CPUs, like Montero..
https://www.servethehome.com/dual-amd-epyc-7601-cpus-can-offset-operational-costs-using-monero-mining/

And EPYC(which aren't counted in the OP's chart obviously) set enormous lead world record thanks to how well the coins fit in the cache.
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>>61169777
>>61169784
Where exactly that graph says anything about CPUs, retards?
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>>61169772
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>>61169792
10/10 bait my man.
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>>61169791
>I’m going to send you an e-mail. I’d love help bringing this to our cluster. We only have around 3000 dual socket Xeons now but we expect to grow.

>only 3000 dual socket Xeons
>only 3000 dual socket Xeons
>only 3000 dual socket Xeons
>for mining coins
>O N L Y


THE WORLD IS FUCKING INSANE
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>>61169812
Those CPUs aren't ever going to end up on Pissmark's graph, though.
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>>61169792
Nice try shlomo
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>>61169832
Obviously, I'm more worried that someone has around 70000 CPU cores dedicated to mining.
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i want to do a ryzen build but i have too many fucking computers
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>>61169715
DELET
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>>61169715
>>people that waited got Ryzen

As if buying a $1000/600 CPU, with $300 motherboards, needing 4 channel memory and a fucking liquid cooler would ever be a choice(unless you have more money than sense and/or crazy) against a $300 CPU on a $100 motherboard that's only 20-30% slower
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>>61169715
Oh shit, Ryzen is fucking based
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>>61169877
>SFF desktop sitting on top of my stereo
>rendering tower behind desk
>Toughbook sitting on shelf connected to monitor
>everything connected to NAS
>HTPC in the living room

I know this feel.
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>>61169715
>already back to pre Bulldozer levels

This isn't real marketshare, but it's pretty indicative.
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The only thing intel has left is moar gigahurtz.
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>>61169792
>This graph counts the baselines submitted to us during these time period and therefore is representative of CPUs in use rather than CPUs purchased.
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>>61169918
If the Zen refresh late this year or Q1 next year pushes another 200MHz that would be largely irrelevant, gigacocks disappears for Intel with 7nm LP
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>>61169911
the new itx boarda are really tempting me though thing is all my computers are atx and id need a desk just for all of them and no where for the monitors unless i use a 2nd desk i wish manufacturers would modernize old platforms like socket 478, 775, am3 onto itx boards but itd be a niche market for people like me
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So now we trust random charts off the Internet? I thought /g/ was better than this.
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>>61169715
This isn't marketshare, AMD tards are just running the benchmark over and over again to inflate numbers, it's basically nothing
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>>61169715
>JUST WAIT
>OUR POO PROCESSOR IS B-BETTER THAN INTEL R-REALLY
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>>61169946
>>61169959
>>61169969
This is the best damage control you can do? Sad!
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>>61169959
It counts unique cpus only running the bench several times would only increase the amount by exactly one.
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Oh God he's seething.
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>>61169715
What happened in 2006?
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Brian, instead of shitposting, you should find some excuse to give the board and shareholders soon and it better not be "battle tested"
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>>61169999
Quads BTFO intlel
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>>61169997
Athlon x2.
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>>61169997
core 2 duo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2yfTni1an0
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>>61169715
That's a pretty fucking huge gain
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>>61170014
>all those dislikes
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>>61170019
That was artificially boosted, tards rerunning tests to inflate imaginary marketshare, meanwhile Intel outsells AMD 10 to 1
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>>61170025
They measure unique CPUs only.
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>>61170025
Brian, don't you have better things to do?
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"Inconsistent performance"
"battle tested"
"stitching together"
"desktop die"
"deployment complexities"
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>>61169997
Conroe and bribes.
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>>61169715

>People look at this gigantic gap and celebrate being on the bottom

Jesus
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>>61170041
Theres only so many projects he can make crash and burn. Looks like marketing is at the top of his list now.
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>>61169715
isn't this the exact same chart as during trump vs hillary
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>>61169969

Their GPUs are poo, the CPUs are rice
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>>61170054
This, I fully expect it to fall down soon.
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>>61169783
Please provide citation that the ringbus is actually a problem.
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>>61170063
>poo CEO
>not poo CPU
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>>61170064
Based on what? Coffee Lake S 6 cores that perform the same as a 1600X for $100 more and have jizz under the hood?
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>>61170064
For what reason?
Threadripper and EPYC (terrible names) didn't even launched yet wich is where Intel (enthusiasts and server) have major profits.
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Intel marketing team on full damage control
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>>61169715

>You can't post steam hardware survey of over 50 million people to show AMD cards aren't selling, it's not proof of market share, you're wrong!!!!!!!!!!!
>Oh here's this graph from a benchmark that has not even a single million users, this is proof that Intel is dead

Which one is it, shills?
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>>61170067
It's not.
For corelets at least.
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>>61170048
That was 10/10 truly Intel way.
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>>61170067
Space that takes on the die is huge.
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>>61170089
>over 50 million people
It's opt-in, dumbass, not all 50 million people on steam clicked "Yes". Not all people were even offered the survey.
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>>61169715
>Nvidia's GPUs aren't TOO overpriced like Intel's top end gear is.

what kind of shithole do you live in? nvidia has always been cheaper.
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>>61169715
The onlye thing this chart is telling me is that people try AMD and end up going back to Intel
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>>61170085
NOPE! Intel fans are just laughing at deluded AMD tards like they always have.
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>>61170067
It doesn't scale.
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>>61170106
Steam have 12 million at max, don't listen to this dumbfuck.
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>>61170106

It's more than a single benchmark used by a tiny niche enthusiast segment of the market
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>>61170120
Okay I guess the previous years where it clearly shows AMD getting slaughtered are wrong too.
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>>61170119
>Steam have 12 million at max

Steam has over 100m accounts with at least 1 priced game (no F2P).

Do you have proof of your claims other than your ass?
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>>61169715
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>>61170061
I 100% thought that's what it was at first. It looks so eerily similar. Someone tweet Trump and ask him what he thinks about AMD being the underdog
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>>61170089
so you hate passmark now? good to know
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>>61170139

Nice deflection, shill.
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>>61170089
All Steam survery shows you is how many poorfags with craptops use Steam (Spoilers: A lot)
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>AMD nukes Intel
>and nukes itself out of the GPU market because no money to Vega team

Hey at least they can restart in the GPU market when they get money.
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>>61170147

Nice subject irrelevant statement, are the AMD shill manuals finally getting new tactics listed other than screaming goy?
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>>61170147
Steam is 90% NEETs who have a 10 to 5 year old laptop and play TF2 with intel integrated graphics.
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>>61170166
well it's also secondary devices, I have steam installed on my Atom machine just to chat with people.
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HOW COULD PASSMARK DO THIS TO US, WE hAVE SPENT YEARS OPTIMIZING FOR IT TOGETHER AND THEY NOW TURN ON US I WILL CUT OFF THEIR FUNDING
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>>61170165
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>bragging about steam stat
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>>61170195
But that's AMD anon.

Literally ininity fabric (Pajeet glue)
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>>61170206
Their benchmark is still hilariously skewed towards Intel, look at the 1800X vs 6900K results. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2966&cmp[]=2794
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>>61170221
Are you retarded
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>>61170131
>faggots with 5 accounts with only CS:GO
>loads of accounts that not even have a profile
>dev accounts
>the number of accounts somehow translates the ammount of CPUs being used for gaming

Eat shit and die of syphilis
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>>61170221
AMD: Infinity fabric linked dies
Intel: MAKE A MESH OF BINGBUS :-------D
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>>61170132
anytime amd gets close to overtaking intels marketshare intel introduces something that absolutely rekts amd. intel has had over a decade just shitting out camrys of the cpu world shit like skylake x is a band aid
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>>61170118
Scales right up to the badnwidth of the actual memory controllers.
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>>61170250
Another P6 iteration? Come on.
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>>61169924
>The graph showing AMD and Intel market share is made of up thousands of PerformanceTest benchmark results and is updated daily
>made of up thousands of PerformanceTest benchmark results
people who believe this shit are unbelievable.
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>>61170250
This happened ONCE in history.
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>>61170250
Yeah, but this time we both know AMD and Intel are making the new arches in 2020/2021, there's no surprises now.
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>>61170103
The ringbus is routed on completely different metal layers, so that doesn't really matter.
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>>61170258
slot 1 like cpus with 2 10 core chips
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>>61170250
Intel's new arch is Linus Tech Tips tier. They're taking x86 and chopping parts of it off to make it fit into a smaller space. It's going to be garbage with backwards compatibility issues out the ass.
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>>61169792
>Intel vs AMD
>implying people use ANY Intel product for dikcoin mining
>“>>61169777
>>61169784
Where exactly that graph says anything about CPUs, retards?”
lmfao
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can AMD crush intel with zen2?
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>>61170283
>intel wants another Itanic
Fucking why.
WHY.
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.
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>>61170295
>can
It's not a question IF they can, it's WHEN they can do that.
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>>61170295
The difference in perf of AMD and Intel during late 2018/2019 will be far larger than it is now, unless Ice Lake is another miracle, which I doubt since their new arch is in 2020 and IL is another skylake.
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>>61170297
Because in their mind, they can fully monopolise PC section and take out AMD out of the picture completely.
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>>61169753
>>61169772
>>61169946
>>61169959
>>61169969
>>61170025
>>61170116
>>61170256
>>61170130
>>61170250
All your damage control won't help here
Intel is going to be finished & bankrupt in 2018
Mark my words and screencap this
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>>61170310
So Intel will be launching refreshed hasswells until 2020.
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>>61170323
>Because in their mind, they can fully monopolise PC section and take out AMD out of the picture completely.
AMD has no Ruinz to fuck something up this time.
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>>61170250
>intel introduces something that absolutely rekts amd
like OEM bribes and fake benchmarks?
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>>61170347
2020 at the earliest. Could be 2021.
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>>61170323
The X86 deal dials back when IBM asked Intel for a secound suplier for X86 chips, so Intel made it so that only AMD can make it, if they somehow file bankrupcy even if another company buys AMD they will not be able to produce X86 CPUs. Newly acquired Advanced Micro Devices would be reduced to ARM CPUs and GPU manufacturing wich are not their best at the moment.
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>>61170323
>Because in their mind, they can fully monopolise PC section and take out AMD out of the picture completely.
They can't do that. Intel needs AMD forever.
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>>61170424
watch samsung buy amd
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>>61170424
No they do not.
Not if they create new system, they can have monopoly of that for at least 25 years.

Before Intel, IBM had monopoly of x86
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>>61170332
But I wasn't damage controlling for Intel. I was just questioning /g/'s obstinate idea that the Ringbus is the root of all Intel's problems.
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>>61169715
>ryzen 3
>ryzen pro
>desktop APUs
>threadripper
>mobile
>mobile pro

Just this and still the biggest market makers (ryzen 3/APUand mobile APUs) are not even out yet.

This is gonna get hilarious over the next year.
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>>61170297
The real problem with Itanium wasn't really the lack of backwards compatibility, though, but just the fact that the architecture wasn't very good.
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>>61170499
It's VLIW and VLIW never works properly.
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>>61170433
If anybody was going to buy AMD, it would have happened a couple of years ago when they were at their lowest ebb and barely worth the change down the back of Brian Krzanich's couch.
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>>61169794
DELET THIS
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I can see 2018's CPU market stabilizing around 65% intel vs 35% AMD, thanks to CoffeeLake and intel catching up in price/core count.
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>>61170433
Watch IBM.
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>>61170563
IBM wants nVidia.
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>>61170561
That is unless Zen2 is a monster.
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>>61170582
Zen2 7nm +10% IPC + 5ghz over when?
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>>61170593
Q4 2018 if yields are acceptable.
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>>61170521
The real problem was the explicit lack of dynamic scheduling.
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>>61170593
Personally I think stock boost clocks will be slightly over 4.4GHz for the 10 core models, but the IPC to be over 15%, 10% seems kinda low knowing how many things the Zen1 didn't include.
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>>61170499
>but just the fact that the architecture was only as good as the """" enterprise class """" programmers that wrote software for it
Fixed that for you. Next time, Intel won't make the mistake of expecting Java programlets to have half a clue of what the fuck they're doing.
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>>61170561
If the reason people are still buying Intel is higher clockspeed gaming performance, their 6 core isn't even going to sell as well as their 4 cores.
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>>61170582
The 7nm LP node alone makes it a monster.
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>>61170620
No, they were relying on compilers to do the work for them.

(Whenever you hear that, expect failure.)
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>>61170620
It was the case of
>compiler will fix it
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>>61170310
>5 ghz as base
fucking IBM magic.
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>>61170620
Even amongst competent programmers, however, unless you're literally only dealing with extremely regular code with extremely regular memory access patterns, hardware ability to deal with variable instruction latency is a good thing.
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>>61170621
The 6800k's turbos are pretty pathetic, barely better than stock.
If that coffeelake has any kind of turbo enabled on that run, it's junk.
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Only two mentions of Vega in this thread? Where's DOA shitposters?
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>>61170661
Unless Coffelake is cheap as dirt(and who would buy Skylake-X then?) it's shit, you could have bought a Haswell-E 6 core, OC it to 4.5GHz+ without problem years ago.
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I don't get how this is possible.
Just yesterday I went over the aggregate marketshare of the entire Ryzen line from the same source and it added up to 5%
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>>61170661
i7-6800K is 140w TDP, too. They have to keep it under 95w for mainstream desktop CPUs.
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>>61170680
Thankfully AMD's CPU division is far removed from their GPU division.
Even if Vega is another Fury it's still better than whatever iGPU Intel has.
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>>61170694
Current Vega works like another (this time overclocked) Fury.
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>>61170619
>10% seems kinda low knowing how many things the Zen1 didn't include
Zen didn't include those things because they weren't worth the power budget. They still won't be worth the power budget with Zen 2, because anything that gives less benefit for the same power as adding another core isn't worth bothering with.
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>>61170682
It will be $350 just like the last mainstream i7.
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>>61170705
Yeah, but in mobile that has to fit a 15W TDP, it'll be around 800 shaders clocked at below 1000MHz, who knows what Vega will be there.
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>>61170719
It will hopefully use TBR by then.
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>>61170713
Then what's the point of the 6 and 8 core Skylake X when this can probably reach 5GHz (disregarding housefires) and won't have 80ns core to core fucking latencies?
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>>61170218
>XP almost 7%
XP WILL NEVER DIE
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>>61170733
Intel doesn't sell products based on overclocking performance, that's why I think the 6 core coffeelake will be around the 1600X's clocks and around $350, the 6 core Skylake-X is naturally clocked a bit higher to make a perf difference.
Why would they cannibalize their own products? Intel never does this.
Why would they even want the market to think their mainstream products are FASTER than HEDT products?
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>>61170633
Do you have any other example?
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>>61170756
And neither should it, given that Windows has had literally zero improvements since then.
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>>61170762
Cell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(microprocessor)#Synergistic_Processing_Elements_.28SPE.29
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>>61169715
Intel fights back
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>>61170762
Larrabee.
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>>61170784
>no RGB

Into the trash
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>>61170499
Also Intel's hard market segmentation. Itanium was just too expensive for any enthusiast community to form.

>>61170620
Yeah, let's blame programmers for a shitty CPU design.
t. Intlel
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>>61169753
>Skylake based Xeons
lmao yeah like you'd had 2-5k to spend on a single chip
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>>61170989
Then enjoy thermo conductive cum in your CPU.
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>>61171030
>implying they won't jizz up their Xeons, too
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>>61171051
They won't. Xeons' heat spreader is soldered.
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>>61171071
So was Broadwell-E, you get what I'm saying?

If Intel moved to a TIM only assembly, it explains everything.
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>>61171084
There are already Skylake based Xeons released. The 4 core versions.
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>>61169715
HAHAHAHA DRUMPFKINS ON SUICIDE WATCH
SAY IT WITH ME: MADAME PRESIDENT
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>>61170779
>prepare-to-branch instructions
Interesting. One wonders why they didn't use branch delay slots instead.
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>>61170788
Larrabee was just an in-order pipeline, though. If you're going to say that it was designed to require special compiler support, then that's true of literally any architecture ever.
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>>61170947
>Itanium was just too expensive for any enthusiast community to form.
True, but the fact that it didn't perform very well on common workstation software probably didn't help either.
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>>61169772
Buttsniffing wasn't even a thing Q1 you stupid fuck.
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>>61169715
>>61171146
I HURT MYSELF TODAY
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>>61171346
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>>61171386
it's only "best seller" bc AYMMMD is practically giving it away for free you shmuck
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>>61171386
DELET
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>letting a polok run your company
>ever
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>>61169715
Imagine being this fucking delusional
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Hello netburst my old friend
I've come to stoke your flames again
Because market share is slowly leaking
AMD released Ryzen while I was sleeping
And the bipelines that were burned in my brain
Still remain
Within the flames, of netburst
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>>61171451
Imagine coming up with damage control this weak.
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>>61169715
Just think how ass blasted intel will be when the Zen APUs will come out
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>>61171386
>Tfw got R5 1600X for $250

God fucking damn it AMD, why the fuck couldn't you just wait a month before slashing prices? I finally got burned by buying shit on release, never again.
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>>61169753
That's a boy
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>>61170235
I have 150 games. I'm online only a few nights a week, or sometimes even go weeks without logging in as I happen to have a job which requires me to travel. Sometimes I play in offline mode, as well.

I dont understand your 12m claim. I'd guess the number as a whole is less than 100m but way higher than 50m.
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>>61169715
REPEAT AFTER ME
BEST SELLER
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>>61171539
Their yields were so good they could afford to do it, plus Threadripper is coming.
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>>61171564
Lexi Belle
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>>61169854
>dedicated to mining
He never said that, though. The point of this seems to be to offset costs with mining during off-peak hours.
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>>61171570
h-hh-heh, Just Wait™ for next arch AMDrone, then you'll be s-sorry!
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>>61171600
>another Itanic
No thanks Intel, Oregon team sucks cocks and Haifa team can only iterate P6. It's all over.
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>>61171539
What? £189 is $249
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>>61171587
Why did his parents give him a girl's name?
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>>61171612
In the land of the free and home of the brave shit is cheaper, I just didn't do the conversion in my head. I assumed it would be closer to this, what was the launch price in pounds?
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>>61170115
How the fuck did you come to that conclusion?
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>>61169783
bingbus is over we mesh nao
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-mesh-architecture-skylake-x-hedt,34806.html
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>>61170757
Some theories are they're going to remove the unlocked multiplier from their desktop CPUs entirely. Try to push all enthusiasts towards their HEDT platform.
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>>61171661
>Some theories are they're going to remove the unlocked multiplier from their desktop CPUs entirely
They'd be really stupid not to do that, they've been needing to simplify their product line-up for a long time anyway and getting rid of the "K" series would be amazing.
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>>61171564
>That's a boy
Yes, and?
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Former intel engineer here. Not gonna lie it's hilarious watching them crash and burn right now, but seriously, we can't let them reactive the pipelines again.
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>>61171611
>Itanic
Why do you insist that MMX or x87 or BCD instructions must be with us until the end of time? We should be happy if these finally go away. Especially the BCD instructions that take up one-byte decoding space.
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>>61171658
>literally moar bingbus
Lmao
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>>61171639
I remember seeing £210 for the 1600, and £230 for the 1600x
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>>61171386
OY VEY time to rev up the FUD
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>>61171712
I know you're just pretending to be retarded, but if the problem with the ringbus was its growing length, then instituting a mesh of ringbuses solves that problem.
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>>61171711
AMD64 has no BCD tho
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>>61171732
Mesh, you mean like... a fabric, of the infinite variety?
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>>61171617
??
It's a porno actress you mongoloid: https://yandex.com/images/search?text=lexi%20belle
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>>61171753
no, he means bingbus without major problem of a bingbus, length.
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>>61171760
>Yandex
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>>61169877
>>61169911
>i have too many fucking computers
Good, then get an Epyc or Threadripper and virtualize everything on a single server.
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>>61171679
>they've been needing to simplify their product line-up for a long time
Yet they did the exact fucking opposite with X299
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>>61171752
The CPUs still support it in 32-bit operation, and much more importantly, they haven't reused the opcode space for them.
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>>61169753
>Purley platform ever not destined to get it's shit stomped in by based Threadripper
Good one anon
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>>61171753
Are you trying to say that Intel's and AMD's interconnects are the same? I myself haven't even seen any technical description of the IF whatsoever, so please enlighten me if that is the case.
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>>61171821
Charlie's got a writeup on IF
And I'm pretty sure he's the only one who ever did a semi-deep technical dive into it, rest is the usual popsci nonsense
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>>61171826
Who's Charlie?
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>>61171785
>searching for images on anything other than Yandex
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>>61169715
Is the market share calculated by taking number of cores or is it only taking desktop users to skew it towards AMD?
Virtually all laptops use intel now.
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>>61171821
They are not.

Intel's mesh is an advancement of the ringbus design which allows it to scale more, because it's not a ring but a mesh (duh), i.e. every core is connected to every core.
It scales pretty well but increases the initial latencies from the ringbus even between adjacent cores.

Zen has CCXes with 4 cores (as of now, different CCXes might follow) which are connected through the inifinity fabric which is coupled with the memory bus in some shape (the admittedly only questionable part about the otherwise pretty good architecture). Internally the CCXes are connected via a ringbus(?).
This means internal CCX latencies are lower than overall mesh latencies but once you hit the IF they skyrocket.
Regular low-core ringbus latencies are still the best, but as has been pointed out multiple times, they scale like shit.

AMD's IF also has the advantage that it allows them to scale the binning by disabling faulty cores inside the CCX (i.e. sell 8C, 6C and 4C SKUs fromm the same silicon). The same was definitely not possible with Intel's Ringbus (since one faulty core obviously trashes the whole chip). I'm not sure how the Mesh architecture scales in terms of binning though, I guess that remains to be seen.
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>>61171919
Ryzen Mobile hasn't even launched yet, half their other products haven't either.
>>61170488
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>>61171928
>Zen has CCXes with 4 cores which are connected through the inifinity fabric
>Internally the CCXes are connected via a ringbus(?).
You have no idea what you're talking about. IF is what is connected the CCXs and the dies in MCM configurations. The interconnect between the cores inside a CCX hasn't been disclosed, but it's probably some kind of crossbar.
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>>61171974
Fuck, IF is not an interconnect, it's a protocol, and it gives roghly zero shits about physical transport layer.
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>>61171974
>IF is what is connected the CCXs and the dies in MCM configurations
>Zen has CCXes with 4 cores which [the CCXes] are connected through the inifinity fabric
that's what I said

>The interconnect between the cores inside a CCX hasn't been disclosed, but it's probably some kind of crossbar.
which is why I put a question mark behind my statement
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>>61171996
You mean it's the protocol part of the interconnect.
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Mina (everyone)! Can you please tell me if you can have gpu passthrough with qemu+kvm on rizen?
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>>61172019
You can but GPU peformance tanks heavily for some reason.
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Posted on the wrong thread sorry 4chinners.
Cit:
This can't be correct.
You're telling me we've gone back to Q2 2007 levels of Marketshare overnight?

If you look at pic related, AMD is doing BETTER than pre-Sandy last time it had slightly superior products with Athlon II and Phenom IIs.

This cannot be right.
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>>61172002
Ah indeed, your post can be read that way too.
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>>61169715
hmmm... that graph looks familiar... even the colors fit
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>>61169877
I'm building one anyway
I have an i7-7700K gaming PC, a 6700K back-up gaming PC/shitposting station, a 5775C HTPC for the living room, a 4790K for my bedroom TV, and a 3770K acting as a file server for the 5775C and 4790K.
I have a 2700K on its Z68 motherboard hanging on my wall if that counts.
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>>61172052
It appears to be too good to be true only because AMD did disastrously since then (Sandy).

This is actually not that great a healthy marketshare in a 2 horse race desu.

AMD has to rise back up to 40ish % or can't compete. Vicious circle.
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>>61172079
>downgrading to AMD
heh pathetic cuck
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>>61172075
Make AMD Great Again
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>>61172093
Once everything using Zen cores launches it's gonna be much more interesting.
If anything this just proves a trend, look how fast AMD dropped off with C2D
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>>61172109
>If anything this just proves a trend
what?
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>>61171639

Aren't prices in America before taxes? We already have vat included in ours, don't think we can do a straight conversion.
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>>61172094
You're not gonna stop the bleeding by insulting the people buying your stuff, Brian.
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>>61172124
Market is shifting.

I'm not expecting 50/50 by 2019 even if Zen2 is a monster, but I'm expecting AMD to hit over 40%
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>>61169772
Get a load of this retard.
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>>61172127
>Aren't prices in America before taxes?
Yes. Amerifats cheat when bragging.
And btw you illiterate morons, nominal exchange rate conversion is meaningless.

If your currency de/appreciates overnight, you're not paying more or less just because the price in USD or whatever other currency are btter or worse NOMINALLY.

Jesus, it's like no one in here has graduated HS or something.
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>>61172034
really? as a gamer on gnu+linux, i will stay with intel then.
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>>61172179
You should.
Also
>gaymer
>leencucks
Lmao.
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>>61172094
>downgrading
I'm not replacing anything, I'm going to start making Youtube videos as a hobby and I need a video capture/re-encoding PC.
I'm saving up for an i9-7820K and a X299 once the BIOS and hardware for those become stable enough.
>b-b-b-but muh delid
So what? I lap and delid all of my past i7s (with the exception of the 2700K and 5775C which are soldered).
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>>61172060
no worries
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>>61172211
was stunned after reading you reply. honestly.
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>>61172094
oh sweetie
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>>61169772
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>>61169715
>Meanwhile what is happening to Intel is gonna happen to AMD's GPU division as well, thanks to Vega, but who cares, Nvidia's GPUs aren't TOO overpriced like Intel's top end gear is

yeah less than a month to see what the consumer vega is all about
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>>61170073
CEO is rice not poo.
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>>61169715
>Nvidia's GPUs aren't TOO overpriced
I was under the impression that GPUs are selling above MSRP.
>>
>Test
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>>61170259
im sure they thought of that before showcasing such a graph shill
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>>61170250
you mean paying hp dell and samsung not to use any amd cpu so that intel can give them discounts?
yeah i agree
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>>61172079
Why the fuck did you upgrade every fucking year?
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>>61171420
because it costs next to nothing to make due to +95% yields
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>>61172780
I love how these fabled Zen yields increase everytime someone posts them.
They were 80% 2 days ago now it's 95%
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>>61173174
Full Zeppelin yields are 80% but AMD bins literally everything for Ryzen and EPYC. No silicon wasted. At all.
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>>61172127
A lot of of the time, online purchases aren't taxed in America.
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So is now a good time to retire my 2500K?

Only problem is GPU prices have also spiked and I'd rather upgrade everything at once.
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>>61169715
>Tfw when you're a part of the market share increase

Sorry to say it to Intel, who've I've been pretty loyal to for almost 10 years now, but the way you've handled your business decision this past year and the upcoming quarters is deplorable. I'm glad I helped give AMD its current boost. Maybe you'll rethink your strategy and actually make products with us in mind rather than trying to save pennies a processor.
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>>61169753
There's a worm in that apple.
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>>61173174
Zen Yields are at least 110%. Yes, when they zap one they get 1.1 out.
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>>61171526
Kek. Here is a (You)
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>>61169715
I feel like Ive seen this graph somewhere before...
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>>61173990
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>>61173990
>>61174004
>Intel is so far ahead in market share, they're not even thinking about AMD!
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>>61173990
>>61174004
greatest timeline
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>>61173530
>>61172780
>>61172780

To be fair, yelds of fully functional 8 cores die are 80% and they can successfully salvage the remaining 20% into gimped parts, hence the previously mentioned 99% die usage.

It's a great idea, almost no waste. IF is a great idea if only for this. Next earning call will be dope for AMD, investors like this kinda shit.
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>>61173530
>Yields become 1000%
>AMD can't explain how or why

Should we get scared?
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>>61173990
>>61174004
>implying Russian hackers are going to hack people's bank and credit card accounts and mass-buy AMD CPUs
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>>61174057
>He believes CNN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdP8TiKY8dE
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>>61174057
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>>61174057
DRUMFPTT BTFO
>>
40% market share soon!
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the year of the AMD desktop has finally arrived
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>>61172221
>Hes such a cuck he overpays for housefires then pays more just to make them stable
Lmao
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>>61174080
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>>61172221
>b-b-b-but muh delid
Also enjoy subpar performance and burning VRMs
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>>61169924
>>61169715
fucking retards, any new consumer cpu would be disproportionately popular in a benchmark application, because you test something when it's new and then you forget about it unless you're some overclocking autist, and the sample size is tiny "thousands"
>>
>tfw I bought a i5 6500 a year ago for the same price a r5 1600 is now

I was upgrading from a 2006 build so I'm still pretty happy.
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>>61173347
Getting pretty rare these days.
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>>61174638
>ucking retards, any new consumer cpu would be disproportionately popular in a benchmark application, because you test something when it's new
Right, the point is to compare it with NEW intel sales idiot.
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IT ISNT FAIR
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>>61174809
it's not very relevant, anyone who would buy an intel cpu already has for example 4790k/6700k/7700k, ryzen fits a different use case, mainly prosumers who do video rendering and such, and a minority of gamer kids
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>>61173526
Came here to post this
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>>61169715
We all know how this ends
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>>61175134
>anyone who would buy an intel cpu already has
Yes because all people are synchronized and update their systems at the same time
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>>61175157
>what the fuck nonsense are you spilling?
What nonsense are you accusing him of spilling? All he's saying is that his old computer is two years older than your old one.
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>>61175246
memers have been waiting for ryzen for at least 2-3 years, while during this time intel has had a healthy business, so now that ryzen recently came out the popularity in new purchases is temporarily higher than it would have been in an apples to apples comparison
>>
I just received my 850 Evo 500GB, it's my first SSD and wow it's insanely fast!

Now to buy the rest of my new pc.
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>>61175391
what are you gonna get anon?
I'm in your exact same situation got the 850 evo 500gb a few days ago and currently using in the old pc
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>>61175412
I'm going with this so far: https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/rc8csJ

I was going to buy a RX 570 or 580 to go with the super cheap freesync monitor, but due to miners I guess I'll do without
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>>61175438
looks solid but that GPU is not in stock either. 2-4 weeks IF they get enough restock
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>>61175482
Yeah, I might end up buying a 1050ti or a secondhand card from my local craigslist...

Thankfully I'm looking more for a CPU heavy build than pure gaming, so I'll just take what I can get
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>>61175520
1050ti is garbage and can't 1080p
Try something used as you said like a 980?
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>Gain ~4% marketshare after releasing the only good processor you've made in a decade
>LMAO INTEL BTFO WOOOO LMAO INTELFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
ok.
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>>61175561
I think I'll buy the GPU at the last moment, in case I get lucky and Ethereum crashes in the meantime.
I'm moving to a new place sometime this month, so I'll buy the heavy stuff after moving.
Otherwise yeah I guess I'll get something good secondhand.
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>>61175577
>good processor
>Ryzen
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>>61175630
t. Brian JUSTnich
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>>61175304
1-2% would be popularity over 1q..
10% over 1q is insane.
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>>61175630
Compared to everything AMD has made since the Phenom II, yes, it's a decent processor.
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>>61169715
Even if Ryzen had the same performance as an i7 I'd still fucking buy it. The only time I maxed out my 1700 was when I was benchmarking encryption speeds.
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>>61175743
As soon as PCIe SSDs become the norm, computers will be basically instant...
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>>61173990
NOT MY PROCESSOR
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>>61169772
you mean ethereum dumbduck? buttcoin is dominated by asic
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>>61175789
... coffees.
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>>61175577
>Lose 10% market share in a month
>Not being btfo'd.

pls go home
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>>61176082
it's not even sales stats, it's benchmark stats, if you buy for example a i7-7700k chances are you won't bother to test it on this literally who benchmark, because the result is already known
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>>61169715
bump
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>>61176128
That's completely wrong, the results are already known for ALL the CPUs.
The reason people benchmark is the silicon lottery, and that applies even to Intel faggots
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>>61176225
they're probably upgrading their ram and testing it again, which you don't need to do with intel
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>>61176700
>>61169988
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>>61176711
there is more variation with ryzen depending on your ram and ram clock speeds so you would have a greater need to test your cpu, whereas with intel if your cpu clock speed is good you know your cpu is good

and this is a literally who pajeet benchmark with a sample size of "thousands"

why am i even wasting my time on this fuck off
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>>61176748
then look at real sale data dipshit.
1600 is best seller everywhere
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>>61176748
>sample size of "thousands"
>not understanding statistics

nufa/g/
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>>61170250
>muh secret value

If Intel had any real answer for Zen, we wouldn't have this god awful X299 platform.

No, Intel doesn't have a bunch of 10 niggahurtz 50 watt god chips just sitting in a warehouse waiting to end AMD
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>>61176748
Do you really think their duplicate detection is so shit it can't tell if you've changed your RAM or not and just assumes it's a completely new build?
>>
Someone has been watching sales on some german aggregate site, mindfactory IIRC and Intel/AMD sales have literally been 50/50, which means if that's true AMD would catch up to Intel in no time, reminder that AMD before Zen sold 1 CPU for every 8 Intel sold
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>>61177399
On Amazon and other sites, the 1600 is actually the new best-seller now!
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>>61169715
Meanwhile if AMD released a GPUs better than Nvidia in all price points AMD would barely gain marketshare over the course of a year.

Nvidia mindshare too stronk
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>>61177419
They should have kept the ATi branding.
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>>61177393
l2read
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>>61177419
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Astackoverflow.com+amd+driver+bug
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>>61177461
Putting Nvidia there gave me 2300 results compared to 1700 for AMD
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>>61177419
GPU buyers are much more prone to fail for funky nvidia marketing.
Like, can someone explain me that graph?
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>>61177557
You can't explain Nvidia GraphworksTM
They're made by machine learning ran with Tensor Cores, only electronic pixies know what's happening there
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>>61177492
>amd driver bug
2710 results
>nvidia driver bug
>2300 results
but that's not the point because you would mention both nvidia and amd ("GLSL shader not working on AMD/ATI, but works on NVIDIA "), look at the actual issues, amd drivers are shit in performance too, that's why amd shills say they age like wine, because amd drivers are poorly optimized and they take years to improve the drivers
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>>61177575
You're from nvidia, right? Can someone from your marketing department explain me that graph?
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>>61177575
>>61177606
FUCKING BURGERS
EVERY GODDAMN TIME
FUCKING IGNORANT 56% """"WHITE"""" RETARDS
the graph clearly states that after a certain point you get diminishing returns with increased power
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>>61177669
t. Jen Hsun Huang
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>>61177669
>>>/pol/
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>>61177684
>>61177714
t. pajeet
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>>61177684
>>61177714
designated shart marts
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>>61177714 (You)
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