/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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Yes! 7700k back on the OP!

AMDbros blown the flip out

>>61161200
It does have it's place in there, although only for 144hz builds. It's not like a 1500x is going to achieve this kind of framerate.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RGZ3JV

How is my build?

Do you prefer 1080p@144hz or 1440p@60hz?

>>61161271
I prefer 1080p in general.

>>61161262
What's the usage, gaming?
If so then try to do some saving on the RAM by going for lower frequency 4x4 (or 2x8 if cheaper) kits, and up to an R5 1600: the extra cores helps futureproofing your PC a lot, and it's only $200
Quite sad to see how overpriced the 1060 are now.

>>61161271
I've done some form-filling on 144hz screen and it's smooth as fuck. I can't into high resolution because i have shit eye sight so i will never get a 1440p / 4K screen (except if i intend to use it exclusively for gaming / productivity and nothing else)

>>61161281
Yeah, other than that, how does the list look?

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>>61161200
This ain't funny, m8. Life's are at stake. There are still people who fall for the 7700K meme and even worse, they don't delid and replace the TIM with liquid metal before installing the required 360mm AIO.

>>61161298
Looks good to me. I wouldn't get a 500w PSU because that wouldn't leave much room in case of GPU upgrade + overclocking, and you always want more room both to avoid shutdowns during power-spike and to let the PSU be at peak efficiency / not at full load (which would shorten it's lifespan although not really relevant)

My case only has room for one intake on the front, but I'm trying to create positive air pressure. I've got a Noctua NF P12 in that spot now cranked all the way, isn't moving as much air as I expected.
Is there a fan that'll move more air without being crazy loud?

>>61161304
If i were to do a Photoshop / general productivity build with softwares that don't scale with more cores, i'd get a 7700k. It's still the best at those and not every software can be easily parallelized.

>>61161336
Does the case has a fan controller built-in? Anyway if the intake has room for a 140mm fan then any 140mm would move more air. Look at noise "benchmarks" of Be Quiet (Silent Wings) vs Noctua fans to see how silent they are, i haven't looked much into it personally so i can't say but those are generally the go-to choice for silent fans.

>>61161314
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X3TTf8

How is this? (DDR4-2600 ram is literally $4 more expensive for the same ram amount, what the hell?)

>>61161336
You might be able to fit a 140mm fan with 120mm mounts (they have circular shells rather than square ones).
Honestly though, as long as you have more air entering your case than leaving it, you'll have positive air pressure in the case. If you want to be extra sure, put some non-sticky putty where your case panels are and seal up any other seam where air could get out. Don't put an exhaust fan at the rear (try to let the CPU fan do the exhausting) and cover up any extraneous openings on the top of the case (a lot of dust enters the case from here anyway). A single fan will provide enough positive pressure for it to work, as long as your seams are covered well.

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I bought a 32'' 4k benq PV3200PT and holy shit what a magnificent beasts. my actual computer is still missing some parts but quick tests to play some gaymes on it is like holy shit.
I put the dpi to 150% and everything is at perfect size. I can recommend this screen (so far) and even will get a second on later this year.

>>61161380
I'd suggest you get this PSU instead because seasonic PSUs are generally of quite better quality than rosewill ones
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nB3RsY/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii620bronze
Looks good though.

>>61161434
What GPU do you have to power that up even?

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>this entire thread

>>61161493
Is in a good state, good quality and everyone is very cordial. Anon ask question, anon gets answers. No shitposting, just help and information dump.

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>>61161512
>i just learned how to use a dynamic ip that will teach those amdrones

>>61161463
at the moment it is hooked up to a laptop with a quadro k2100m kek
but my actual computer will have a 1080ti

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What card should I get for VR gayman? I assume a GTX 1080 / 1080Ti?

>>61161574
You don't need such card for VR, even a GTX 1060 / 580 handle it decently. So i'd say GTX 1080 is a good pick.

>>61161339
>It's still the best at those and not every software can be easily parallelized.
Any software that won't support multi-threading in the future will cease to exist.
>general productivity build
No. For general purpose Ryzen is far superiour. 7700K is a niche CPU suited only for certain purposes and even then it's shit value and not recommended.

>>61161606
>Any software that won't support multi-threading in the future will cease to exist.
Photoshop isn't gonna cease to exist anytime soon and these lazy fucks are adobe sure as hell aren't gonna rewrite that mess

>>61161577
>a-amd will beat intel
>a-amd will beat nvidia
just give it up pajeet
the rest is better

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>>61161637
whats this?

>>61161298
>>61161281
Don't listen to that chucklefuck. Ryzen benefits greatly from RAM speed.

>>61161574
1080 Ti is the best choice and given the current market the best value as well.

>>61161676
When not GPU bound you idiot.
Oh wow, i have 75fps instead of 72 on my 60hz screen!
Stop recommending high frequency kit for any and all builds when it is only important in a few usages.

i'm too lazy to do use one of those power calculators, will a 650w suffice for this shit

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($348.29 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($103.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($143.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.33 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW DT GAMING ACX 3.0 Video Card
Case: Corsair - 450D ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Corsair AM4-AMD Retention Bracket Kit for Hydro Series Coolers - H55/75/80I/90/100I/105/110IGTX/115I

>>61161661
intel with their microsoft supporters

>>61161626
I wouldn't be so sure. Adobe products have become more and more shit, technology is evolving fast, greedy jewish companies want to cut corners where they can and this adobe CC licensing system is utter garbage.
Hope they burn in hell.

>>61161710
That'd run overclocked even on a 500w PSU so yeah, 650w is good.
Why the AIO though?
I'd say get a cheaper air cooler and go with high frequency RAM with the saved money

>>61161568
Surprisingly, both make use of pajeet computer magic.
But Intel has the added bonus of Jewish clocking spells and money siphoning.

>>61161661
7700K fan club gathering.

>>61161362
Case is a Corsair 200r, no room for a 140, it's a pretty tight fit.
>haven't looked much into it personally so i can't say but those are generally the go-to choice for silent fans.
I thought Noctua were known for silence? I can sacrifice some volume for better airflow.

>>61161756
OP at his birthday party?

>>61161745
well i was going to go with a
Corsair - H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
but then sound dude said i should upgrade for a bigger one

honestly i don't know what i need, all I know is my current PC's GPU overheats a fuck ton and has just shitty air fans, which is why I don't want to have it happen again for my new one

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>>61161785

>>61161795
An H60 performs worse than even $50 air coolers because of it's small size, but AIO although good are quite expensive for the small performance benefit they offer compared to $60 - $80 air coolers, which is why you should always get those instead unless you don't have much room in your computer

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>>61161795
>all I know is my current PC's GPU overheats a fuck ton
maybe stop buying indian products

>>61161710
>1700X
Unless you're too lazy to OC too get the non X version.
>H105
Loud ass overpriced piece of shit. Get NZXT Kraken or Noctua NH-D15 SE AM4.
>2133 RAM
Are you serious? Get 3000/3200 RAM ffs.
>EVGA G2
Obsolete, get the updated G3.

Rest looks fine other than i'd personally get a Toshiba P300 drive and maybe add 1-2 fans, idk how many the stock 450D has. 650W is more than enough.

>>61161800
omg is that ur pajeet overlord?
LOL!

>>61161811
>but AIO although good
By that i meant 240mm ones
Not sure about 280mm though. 120mm (H60) is worse performance-wise though.

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lol @ people buying ryzen but wasting 100+$$$ on AIOs

Would it be much if an upgrade to sell my 470 4gb for a 1060 3gb? Assuming the crypto currency fad holds out for a bit longer and I can fetch a hugely inflated price for ny card.

>>61161839
stop shilling corsair shit queer

>>61161856
Sidegrade at best, downgrade at worst. 3GB is not enough unless you drop texture quality & anything that eats VRAM, even though the card is powerful enough to handle it

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>Intel shills literally created their own /pcbg/ to recommend the 7700K in

Lmaoing at your lives, guys.

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>>61161848
lol @ your life

>>61161860
No one is shilling corsair you idiot

>>61161710
>2133Hz memory
Jesus what the fuck? Like the other anon said go for higher frequency RAM and drop the AIO if you have to. Ryzen doesn't get that hot and is limited to ~4GHz anyways no matter how cool you get it.

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Daily reminder that TechDeals is the comfiest tech channel

>>61161829
>Unless you're too lazy to OC too get the non X version
i am too lazy to OC
>Loud ass overpriced piece of shit. Get NZXT Kraken or Noctua NH-D15 SE AM4.
which one though there's like a bunch of nzxt krakens
>Are you serious? Get 3000/3200 RAM ffs.
what is wrong with 16gb
>Obsolete, get the updated G3.
g3 is like $40 more though (cdn, not sure why i posted that in usd)

>>61161856
It would be a good idea to try and get the 6Gb version; With 6Gb you can have nice textures, even when you eventually need to turn down other settings a few years from now.

AMD/Nvidia/Intel fanboys and/or shils please leave, you contribute nothing to this thread or board.

>>61161780
Just do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_aBH-RWcc8 (skip to like halfway)

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>>61161901
Hate that faggot. Listening to his voice and the way he speaks triggers my severe autism beyond words.

>>61161922
>which one though there's like a bunch of nzxt krakens
I'm not a fan of AIOs so idk how it's called, but it's the big one, i think x62 or something.
>what is wrong with 16gb
Nigga... i'm talking about the speed. Ryzen wants fast RAM. Your slow ass 2133 is a bottleneck.
>g3 is like $40 more
Not worth then, stick with the G2 or alternatively get a Seasonic PRIME if no more than $10 more.

>>61161901
>gaming pro CARBON
>picture of a car on it
i will never get that

>>61161875
This is sad...

>>61161901
I really like his stuff, he takes many scenarios into consideration when recommending hardware and aptly judges the benefits of each card in varying situations, such as high hz or high res vidyagays.
He's also just adorable. Look at that fucker.

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Reminder to report shitposters and be kind toward other anons!

>>61161965
>I'm not a fan of AIOs so idk how it's called, but it's the big one, i think x62 or something.
that's like $100 more wtf you said the other one was overpriced
>Nigga... i'm talking about the speed. Ryzen wants fast RAM. Your slow ass 2133 is a bottleneck.
so like this then:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/mtp323/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16r

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>>61162056

>>61162096
>19 replies, 4 posters
>all of this shitposting
Fuck off retard.

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>>61162056
Marisa is garbage.

>>61162088
That's good. Kinda feel bad for the competition. Everyone seems to be buying those rams

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>>61162157
anime is garbage

>>61162088
>that's like $100 more wtf you said the other one was overpriced
Performs better and doesn't sound like a jet engine. Imho you shouldn't get an AIO anyways. This is a meme for retarded children with consumerist parents.
>https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/mtp323/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16r
For example yes, just check the QVL before buying.

Mine wasn't even shitposting.
It makes no sense to buy a budget cpu but then spend 100$ on an unnecessary cooling solution bc of some meme.

Also, nice revisionist history, this USED TO BE the official PCBG template, the one guy obsessed about Amd made his personal one 4 days ago.

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>>61162234
>AMD touched my no no place

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>>61162234
>It makes no sense to buy a budget cpu but then spend 100$ on an unnecessary cooling solution bc of some meme.
An R7 1700x isn't a "budget CPU" by any mean
I do agree that spending $100 on Ryzen CPUs is pointless because you can't push them enough to make them heat as much as Intel CPUs, not to say they're soldered, and AIO generally are pretty cost inefficient

>this USED TO BE the official PCBG template
The template is whatever we make it to be. If you want to suggest an edit then go on, we are open to discussion and you can always create thread yourself as long as you don't force controversial edits without discussing it beforehand, which is what that retard keeps doing but keeps failing at.

>Mine wasn't even shitposting.
Which thread was yours?

>>61161739
I hate how there's no alternative for Lightroom, it's nice that alternatives like Affinity Photo are starting to pop but they don't fill the same purose that Lightroom does with bulk editing photos and categorization and it really doesn't feel like anybody else will make an alternative to it any time soon.

>>61162205
>>61161745
>>61161892
alright, if an AIO is bad, can someone tell me what I should get in terms of fans to fit these specs>>61161710

case has two stock fans

>>61161739
adobe is intelcuck shit, no wonder its garbage

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>>61162200
Your face is garbage.

>>61161951
Thanks, but that looks way too intensive for my nonexistent skill.

>>61161093
>7700k

>>61162348
>bulk editing
>not optimized
This is why Adobe needs to die in a fire. Their software could be so much more efficient.

>>61162359
NH-D15 SE AM4 + as many Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 as you like.

>>61162359
It'd not that an AIO is bad, just super unnecessary for Ryzen. Ryzen's architecture limits it to about 4GHz no matter what cooling situation you have going on, nor does it heat up much. Just pick any good air cooler and spend the difference on better RAM.

real non-shitpost thread

>>61161007
>>61161007
>>61161007

>>61162449
>NH-D15 SE AM4
that thing looks huge, would it even fit

>>61162479
Fuck off retard.

>>61162479
so the plan is to shit up the ACTUAL official thread everyday so that your fke one looks "good" in comparison?

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>>61162476
AMD doesnt heat up because it isn't shit like inturds

>>61162501
Look at your thread, its fucking shit, I only come here to give people a chance to come to the thread were actual discussion happens.

>>61162505
Pretty much, yep.

>>61162487
>would it even fit
Read the manual.

>>61162540
>the thread were actual discussion happens
>>61162552
>>61162552
>>61162552
lol

>>61162487
it will fit up your ass for buying an AMD product you faggot

>>61162560
what manual i haven't purchased it yet

>>61162570
reminder both threads are equally worthless.
Quit arguing over which one is worse.

>>61162592
>what manual i haven't purchased it yet
You can find such things online.

>>61162689
but I don't have a printer

ok thanks for help everyone this is my final build

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($348.29 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 SE-AM4 140.2 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($136.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.33 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW DT GAMING ACX 3.0 Video Card
Case: Corsair - 450D ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)

>>61162810
Looks good although cheaper coolers are perfectly fine

Would it be wise selling my i5 6600k & Z170 board to try buy a Ryzen 1600 & B350 board? I'm fine with whatever option, but was considering the 1600 because 2 more cores and 8 more threads.
Also, as an Aussie, would any anons know where the best place to buy a decent 16GB kit of memory is? As it currently is, speed doesn't matter because muh Skylake, but not too keen on the over $10 per GB it currently is. Am I just expecting too much for RAM?

>>61162810
AMD is for complete poorfags, buy a i9

>>61162826
>Would it be wise selling my i5 6600k & Z170 board to try buy a Ryzen 1600 & B350 board? I'm fine with whatever option, but was considering the 1600 because 2 more cores and 8 more threads.
It would most likely be very cost inefficient for not that much of an upgrade.

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>>61162855
>Would it be wise selling my i5 6600k & Z170

>>61162855
>It would most likely be very cost inefficient for not that much of an upgrade.
True, but 6600k and mobos still go for quite a premium on the used market.
With coffeelake the i5s of old (4c/4t) will become pretty much unsellable

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Here's what I'm looking at (also posted it a while back), just a basic gaming/programming rig that I didn't want to spend too much on. I'll probably wait until 4th of July to see if I can get any sales as well.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/baklava151/saved/mrVVnQ

Originally I had a 1060 (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jZJkcf/asus-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-dual-video-card-dual-gtx1060-o6g), but then I found a 1080 that was cheaper, and that I could use a $125 Amazon gift card on. Also looks like there's a $20 rebate I can get.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HDUVJ2M/?tag=pcpapi-20

Alternatively I'm looking at this

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GRRRW0A/?tag=pcpapi-20&th=1

Gonna be moving into an apartment with shit air conditioning, is a Noctua U12s all the cooler I'll ever need for a Ryzen 1600? I'm planning to oc to 4.0 once summer is over.

>>61163043
Don't get Anus cards. Also 1080 ti is going to last you longer.

>>61163043
The Strix (3 fans) is a no brainer, unless you plan on sticking an artic cooler on the other or something. Blower-style GPUs tend to run hot and very loud, i wouldn't get one. And the Strix is quite great both at thermals, noises and clockspeed.

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>testing OC
>run prime95 small fft's for 4 hours with no WHEA errors
>try and run a game
>freezes 5 minutes in and a bunch of WHEA errors

What the fuck is even the point of prime? Is there a better way to test stability?

>>61163072
the 1600@4ghz stays sub 80 on the stock cooler you summerf@g

>>61163102
>implying gaming is not how you actually test stability

>>61163094
TI's are slightly over how much I'd spend. Would it be a huge issue to stick with the 1080 or should I just go back to the 1060 at that point?
>>61163101
Might just roll with it then, even if I have to wait for Amazon to restock.

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>>61163102

>>61163103
It does, but I'd prefer to not have the fan screaming at me.

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>Originally I had a 1060 (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jZJkcf/asus-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-dual-video-card-dual-gtx1060-o6g)
You were about to buy a 1060 for 550$?

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>>61161093
>7700k

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>>61163196
I already delidded.

When I was running prime I had my CPU fans set to 100%, just because I don't like leaving my PC unoccupied under heavy load incase shit gets hot. Now that I'm actually using it, it's a normal fan curve and is a tiny bit hotter.

Obviously temps impact stability, which is why people can pull off silly overclocks at stock voltages on LN2, but can 10C or so really make that big a difference that I can run prime for 4 hours with no errors, but can't get through the intro movie on fucking GTA4 without it shitting the bed?

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>>61163235
Apparently, but then I remembered my Amazon gift card and that I could probably use that to get a better graphics card. Glad I checked desu.

>>61161901
Best teeth in the game

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>>61163289
>I already delidded
>buying intel
theres the problem

>>61163599
That's some epic advicing you're doing my friend, thanks a lot for your contribution

Let's say I have an MSI Armor 1070 and a Gaming X 1060, would be possible/easy to swap the coolers on these two or not? Just wondering because the gaming x cooler is a lot better.

>>61163599
I bought this shit back when Piledriver was still a thing, give me a break pal.

does fps scale linearly with pixel count?

>>61163747
Take a look at both PCB online and see that yourself, sometimes slight difference in cards can cause coolers to perform horribly bad, such as the MSI ARMOR X 1080 ti which is just the 1070's armor x cooler slapped on it and yet it performs much worse.

>>61163772
No, that's very dependent on card architecture, memory bandwidth and much more.

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>>61163169
Why not get a 1070?

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>>61163772
No, not even close. Some cards will die hardcore as pixels increase, some cards seem not to give the slightest of a shit.

I'm not massively knowledgable on the subject but I believe a cards ability to handle high-res shit is largely dependent on it's memory/VRAM, if it's fast it'll do high-res in it's sleep, it's part of the reason the 1080Ti does 1440p in it's fucking sleep.

>>61163783
Good idea, found two pics:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1060_gaming_x_review,4.html
http://wccftech.com/review/msi-geforce-gtx-1070-armor-x-oc-review/

It looks to me like I could just swap them as all the components seem to be in the same places. I'm not very experienced with this so if you see any problems please point them out to me. Otherwise I'll try it out later today or tomorrow.

>>61163795
>>61163839
let's say the difference between 1080p and 768p (~2/1 pixel difference), would I get at least 30% more frames on 768p?

>>61163873
It's impossible to calculate, it can depend on CPU bottlenecks (which occurs on a game by game basis) and the speed and architecture of the card.

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Are the high-efficiency PSUs (platinum, titanium) ever gonna come down in price any more? And are we ever gonna see lower-wattage versions? Even 650 watts is way more than a lot of things need.

>>61163909
thanks anyways for the answers

Sooo uh, why buy Ryzen?

>>61163940
being poor

>>61163940
value for money

>>61161093
I need a good mouse pad and keyboard wrist rest.

What get?

>>61164060
Ryzen

>>61164073
anon pls

>>61164060
>mouse pad
how big?

>keyboard wrist rest
Do you actually, or do you just think you do?

>>61161756
jesus man thats too much

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>>61164060
>>61164102
>2017
>mouse pad

Is watercooling a meme? do you need to do maintenance on AIO coolers, or do you only have to flush the coolant with custom loops?

Money isn't a concern, but I don't like the maintenance aspect of it.

>>61164102
>Do you actually
Yes, my wrists hurt after prolonged use.

>>61164102
>how big?
Not sure, doesn't have to be huge, just something with a wrist pad.

>>61162359
Corsair H115i cooler with Corsair ML140 fans

If I spent as much time working as I have watching videos and reading about Ryzen, I could actually build a new PC. Instead I did nothing.

Sometimes being NEET is hard.

>>61164118
No maintenance with closed loop coolers like AIOs. They're sealed so if you somehow open it up you've fucked it and will either have to reseal it somehow or just toss it out.

>>61164118
>Is watercooling a meme?
yes

>>61164167
NEETs can read all about the products they want and hold detailed opinions about them. But they can't afford to actually buy them. Wagecucks can afford whatever they want, but they can't just spend all afternoon reading dozens of reviews and shit, so they wind up just throwing money at the problem, and usually getting a suboptimal result.

>>61164118
AIO's are mostly fucking shit unless you care for aesthetics. A H100i will cool about 90% as well as, for example a NHD15, but it'll make really fucking annoying pump whine no matter what you do with it. The only advantage is if you have a windowed case you don't have to stare at a fuckhuge aircooler, also it's easier to get at things like RAM and fan headers when they aren't being covered by a 170mm air cooler and two fans.

Unless you have supreme autism and are making a full custom loop, just go with the best air cooling solution you can afford. The twin tower offerings by Noctua and Phanteks are both good and will cool better than any AIO you can get, while being quieter and cheaper.

>>61164118
Get a closed cooler like >>61164173 said. No maintenance needed except cleaning dust.

Mine is running smoothly for a couple years now.

Hey /g

/pol fag here

I want to build a pc really badly, also want to get into the whole scene.
i have #750 pounds at my disposal and i cant think of anyone else better to handle large sums of my savings than strangers on the internet.

So what do i do guys? im on pc part picker but i have no idea what to do

>>61164270
What do you want to do with the system?

>>61164270
>Wants help
>Doesn't tell us what he wants to use his PC for.

?

(if) R1600 is out of stock, what should I get?

>>61164307
Wel uhhh, retard questions inbound my man,
A friend said to aim for 1080p at 60fps.
but i was told this is an expensive.

Ive already bout a few games on steam such as CSGO, DayZ, Totalwar:Warhammer and ARMA 3, i would like to play these on high settings but also be able to listen to music at the same time, or maybe disocrd.

I honestly know jack shit about pc's sorry lads

>>61164383
Pentium G4560
GTX 1050ti (not like you really have a choice here)

>>61161676
That's when it can fucking achieve RAM speeds printed on the stick

>>61164401
Is my budget the limit here yeah?

Cos i was only told 3 things
No pentiums or intel
aim for 1080p at 60fps
no hdd's

Best poorfag keyboard and mouse combo for gaymen?

>>61164401
>>61164383
If you're not in a big hurry I would wait for Ryzen 3 to make an appearance. Even a Ryzen 5 would be a good choice though. No sense in a Pentium G4560 except for very budget builds.

Also, yeah all GPU stocks are low across the board except at the very high and low end of the market so you're kind of fucked there. See if you can find some 900 series GPUs on the used market for a reasonable price I guess.

>>61164417
SSD is unecessary, HDD is fine. GTX 1050 ti is your only option. Pentium will run that shit fine.

>>61164383
>>61164417
Fuck I forgot to say,
I already have a monitor plus mouse and keyboard

>>61164429
>>61164435
So should I wait a while? if so how long?
Surely i can afford more than a 60 pound cpu with a 750 pound build?

>>61164453
If you don't want to wait go with a Ryzen 5 build. You should be able to find plenty of examples online right now since they're popular. The only hard part is finding a GPU because of the insane pricing atm.

>>61164477
Checked^^^

So if i buy my cpu, ram etc then wait a while for GPU's to drop in price?

>>61164488
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BwCbQV

Is one example... feel free to pick a different case/cooler/whatever.

Either wait for GPU prices to calm down or look at used ones, yes.

>>61164498
Well there aint shit for second hand parts where i live, so wait I shall.If you dont mind my asking whats the advantages of this build here?

>>61164498
Speaking of which what would you say is a fair price for a 1070? Preferably in AUD as I'm looking and I've found some as low as $650AUD. It still feels a bit rich as that's like...almost the same price as my whole new rig. What would you suggest is a good price to jump at?

>>61164538
I don't know AUD pricing but in USD a 1070 is normally around $370-420 depending on OC/vendor/etc. I was able to get a 1070 for $375 with a rebate about a month ago before this recent shitstorm.

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>>61164435
>SSD is unecessary

>>61164587
I was told to get a 128 gb ssd until i need a bigger one?

>>61164525
It's a good balance of price/performance. I would recommend at least a small SSD for your operating system and maybe a few games. HDDs are good for media and larger games but the speed of SSDs is desirable for some online games (e.g. MMOs) and general OS use.

Obviously the case is more personal/aesthetic so you can shop around there. You could also get a better CPU cooler if you wanted.

/G WE GOT A CRISIS

I CANT GET INTO DETAILS BUT I NEED A REALLY FUCKIN GOOD GAMING PC FOR 700 DOLLARS ASAP

>>61164632
>/G WE GOT A CRISIS
>I CANT GET INTO DETAILS
I'm not helping you until I get details.

>>61164607
Yeah should be enough for the OS and a couple games.

>>61164632
g4560 and r470 with 8gb of ram.

there u go

>>61164618
Appreciate this so much anon,
so i was thinking about the gpu, i dont wanna sound like a jew but is 6gb over kill? or will 4gb cut it?

>>61164572
>375
That's like 500ish, even 420USD is only 550. Fucking hell. Guess I'll just stick to 1060 for now. I mean I really should get a screen that can use display ports first...
>>61164607
Just grab a 128 SSD and only use it for OS and some games you play regularly (for me like OW and Darkest Dungeon)

>>61164632
That's not happening

>>61164632
Define reallly fucking good? You won't get a high end one under $1000

Mid range GPUs are all sold out everywhere so you're outta luck there too.

So is it even worth upgrading from an i5 2500k yet?

>>61164680
>is 6gb over kill?
no

>>61164695
>>61164690
>>61164665
>>61164647

I was with my mates, and we were placings wagers on random shit like whole die first or whole have a kid first blah blah blah.

Then friend of a friend i barely know has challenged my honor to some games but my pc has completely died and i know fuck all about building them. i cant say my pc has died because ill lose the money, but i can builda new one since its needed anyways

>>61164726
faggot

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>>61164714
Alright, thank you so much my man, appreciate it.
Gonna mess around with that case a little but thanks so much, heres some fine ass in payment

>>61164680
Depends largely on the the games you play, if you can find some benchmarks on youtube showing the VRAM usage at 1080p you can get a better idea. In general I would say 4GB is enough at 1080p in most games but there are always those few games that will require a bit more.

But you need to be careful there because sometimes manufacturers will also make the lower memory model slightly slower or weaker in someway. I would check reviews for the specific models you are considering.

Either way, 6GB is definitely NOT overkill nowadays but it also isn't necessary for most games at 1080 even at "high" settings.

>>61164726
Your a idiot for accepted such a dumb wager but I'll help you out because I've done that stupid shit before too.

What game(s) so we at least have a bottom rung to work with

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>>61164745
Many thanks to you as well, have some pretty woman good sir

>>61164774
Thank you anon you are the real OG nigga

the challenges will be on CSGO, BF1, OW, Chivalry MW and crisis 3

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I'm tempted for the 4k meme. Build in pic. Is it a meme? Should I even try it with what I have? Also, my 1080p monitor is actually at 144hz, dunno why Speccy says it's 119.

>>61161093
>no 7820x
Literally Ryzen with amazing single core.

>>61164829
>Literally Ryzen with amazing house fires
no thanks

>>61164843
It at least deserves a mention for non-poorfags.

>>61164854
>It at least deserves a mention for soon to be poorfags
take your nose and leave.

>>61164869
Shitposting is against the rules.

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>>61164815
>All these normie casual shit games except Chivalry.

Anyway see >>61164498
Good luck trying to get a GPU though.

>>61164815
All those are easily managed with a cheaper bui-
>crisis 3
Nope. Not gonna happen. If you can weasel your way out of that game it should be easy enough. Otherwise GG

You mentioned your old PC, anything that can be salvaged from it? What's the problem with it? Also, how much money is on the line?

>>61164885
fuck off kike.

we're not falling for your bullshit scams anymore.

>>61164796
we don't like women in here

>>61164961

>t. Intel gayboy

>>61164618
>the speed of SSDs is desirable for some online games (e.g. MMOs) and general OS use.
Not that anon, but is there less of a benefit using an ssd with older games?

>>61165212
I mean you'll get faster load times but really the difference between an SSD and a modern HDD with say, SC1 (which I've tested with) is so minuscule it's not even noticeable. Modern RAM can almost house the whole game at some points depending on how old you go

>>61165280
Sweet! What's SC1? Do all modern hdd's have it?

>>61164406
bruh that hasn't been an issue for months

>>61164435
>SSD is unecessary, HDD is fine.
LOL what the fuck is the matter with you?

>>61164823
I mean don't expect any decent performance in games but pretty much anyone can get a 4k monitor for media at least

>>61161232
I'm one of the people that kept complaining in the past threads that it should be recommended only for 144hz. Glad the OP listened

With mid range cards being expensive af atm, what card is best bang for your buck 1080 or ti?

>>61165632
you're basically fucked unless you buy a 1080ti
if you can't afford to go that high you just gotta wait until this blows over

Best thermal paste for 1700x?

>>61165647
semen

>>61165645
Would the ti be overkill for a r5 1600 at 1440p 144hz? Have the money, just not comfortable dropping so much.
Gpu pricing this gen was retard even before shitcoin mining.
I got my 970 for $500 aus and the 1070 before shitcoins were going for like $650, now $750. Fucking retarded.

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>>61161093
>7700k

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>>61165647
Gelid GC Extreme, MX-4, TG Kryonaut

Assuming you're not going the liquid metal route

>>61165713
>Would the ti be overkill for a r5 1600 at 1440p 144hz?
Short answer is no, it's fine and should last you until what comes after volta and a bit more after that too at that resolution and refresh rate
Long answer is no, a gpu isn't gimped by a cpu unless you get something in the i3 range. Realistically you should only replace cpus when you need a new feature severely or your cpu just doesn't feel as snappy as it used to. While you wouldn't win any points in a pissing contest, 2 titan whatevers in sli wouldn't be shit on by your cpu.

>>61165647
cryorig cp7 gives me lower temps than my years old tube of mx4.

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>>61165647
intel tim

>>61165549
Star Craft 1. I play the shit out of that game and have had it on both my HDD and my SSD; didn't notice a different

>>61165769
>Star Craft 1. I play the shit out of that game
is it painful being korean and having a small dick

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>>61165760
kek

>>61165794
Aussie and 7.5". I just like star craft. Played it ever since I owned it on N64

Vega frontier results are out and it is not looking good boys

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>>61165811
sure u are

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>>61165934

>>61165962
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Radeon-Vega-Frontier-Edition-16GB-Air-Cooled-Review

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>>61166076
>pcper
>gaymen on a pro card

is the amd shilling just a meme to get people to hate amd? i don't quite get it.

How are the MSI AM4 boards? I am looking for something very stable, trying to build for the next five years.
Right now, I am looking at the X370 Gaming Pro

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>>61166368

>>61166386
yeah, like that

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>>61166391
no ones shilling amd faggot

>>61166125
Read the review moron

Ay I got a question
I have a few external devices I plan on connecting but they're pretty far away
Does using a USB extension cable have noticeable downsides / what would be the best kind to get?

why so much skylake hate? i've got a 6700k and it runs really well, and i can't figure out why you guys hate on it so much

>>61166448
>why so much skylake hate?
see:
>>61166404

>>61166453

Mine is at 4.6 and it's okay...there are some that run at 4.8 on an AIO even.

>>61166448
Probably because Ryzen just offers better value overall. And you don't have to delid to achieve decent temps.

I bought a $2 case fan but it doesn't fit my case, so I laid it on the floor under my hdd. Is that bad? No pic at the moment.

Is this overkill enough to still hit 144hz ?
Also can I get some recs for liquid coolers, I know a 1700x probably doesnt need it but these fans look ugly. Any general advice is also helpful.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sGhJd6

>>61166600
is there intake on the bottom? then it's fine
if there isn't, then it's not doing anything

>>61166622
Do you mean AIO liquid cooling?
Do you really need a full tower case? You could save money by not getting one, and not corsair as well
I'm not up to date on am4 boards, but wasn't asus one of the worse ones? Either way, make sure the ram you're getting is on the qvl for the mobo

>>61161493
Stay mad poorfag

>>61166555

i didn't delid and i run at 25 idle and 60 under pressure

>>61166650
No intake, forgot to mention. Damn. Is it just straight doing nothing or does it do anything bad?

>>61166678
You're an anomaly, congrats. Doesn't change the overall poor thermal performance across the board for their high-performance CPUs.

>>61166722
if you really need a bad thing listed it's just sipping power while doing nothing

>>61161537
are people this attached to a brand they spend actual time making these shitty pictures?

jesus christ

>>61166658
Yea Im just trying to cool the cpu.
As for the case I just got since I thought it looked good.
I switched out my motherboard for a Gigabyte which is hopefully better.

>>61166769
Are you trying to oc it or just keep it cool? If you just want to keep it cool and lightly oc it, a hyper evo 212 can do that, youd just need to order a bracket from cooler master which is free but youd just pay for shipping
If you're not getting a full atx board then you don't need a full tower. It's a lot of wasted space and they are generally reserved for people who need a ton of pci cards and hard/sdd drives.
Again, not up to date on am4 boards. I myself have the msi b350 tomahawk and it's not that great, if that helps.

>>61161093
What about more expensive Ryzen CPUs? Are they really not notable?

>>61166728

i'm pretty sure that's just the 7700k

>>61166737
Can I drill holes into my case (pre-built PC but replaced a few parts) and elevate my case with rubber circle things at the corners? The case is ghetto as fuck, anyway. Lol

Thinking of getting a Dell SE2417HG any thoughts on this monitor? I just want an affordable 1080p, 60hz screen.

>>61166837
Oh damn my bad, I did mean AIO cooling. My bad this is my second build.
Also isn't my board full atx ? I cant tell.

>>61166854
It's been a problem since the 3770K although the 4770K was even worse.

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>>61166884
You could just put like hockey pucks under the corners, no drilling needed.

Looking to do a mild upgrade to help speed up performance in some newer games.

Current specs
>GTX 770
>8GB DDR3
>i5 4670k oc to 4.2
>Psu and mobo can handle whatever upgrade

I was thinking about just throwing a 1060 in there, but I'm not sure if it would be a better choice overall to spend a little extra for a 1070. I'm somewhat worried about a cpu bottleneck with going that route though. What do you think?

>>61166884
>Can I drill holes into my case (pre-built PC but replaced a few parts) and elevate my case with rubber circle things at the corners?
Seems like a lot just for a fan, but i guess technically you can

>>61166888
If you're dead set on getting an AIO, then I've heard good things about corsair and nzxt.
Your selected board isn't the largest size, which is actually called e-atx. Those boards are normally 400-600 dollars with 8 slots of ram available to them.

>>61166837
Even with atx a full tower is rarely necessary.

>>61166989
Oh shit really ? Well I'll start looking for cases I guess. As for the AIO I'll see what I can find. Thanks friend !

>>61167024
I've never found a good reason to get one. Liquid cooling with many drives included can be done in standard atx cases, so unless you're going full retard it's dumb

>>61166944
grab the 1070

>>61166944
Get a used cheap 1070 for at most 400. Otherwise go with 1060

>>61166944
Grab some more RAM and get a 1070. I had this exactly same build minus the unlocked CPU and a 660 instead. Upgraded to 1060 and 16gb ram. She's solid

So what happens if I need to RMA a 390X that I bought a year ago? Do I get a 580, which is a downgrade? Or do they send me a refurbished 390X?

Im bored. Ask me to build you a parts list with a random budget.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zp8csJ

I've been wanting to do an ultra compact gayming build for a while now. Kind of want to wait until there's itx am4 boards available though.

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>>61167443
Budget gaming for under $400. You get 10 brownie points if it's $350 or less

>>61167455
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bQ6fLD Na mang. Ryzen is where its at.
>>61167474
Thanks mang

>>61167394
Really need some help here.

>>61167474
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nW4Tf8

>>61167474
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4ZJd7h
Thanks for the challenge

>>61167497
You scored 68 points plus 30 bonus for going a $100 under the challenge for 98 total.

Now try to include an ssd, 4 cores or 4 threads, and WiFi capability.

>>61167443
~$1000, but I'm flexible. maybe could go +$300 or more. no monitor or peripherals

main purpose is a multimedia center to hook up to my home theater, but some gaming capabilities would be nice. no flashy tower and tower needs to be quiet

tytyty

>>61167540
91 points out of 107 possible points for you

>>61167557
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gPJd7h

>>61167394
>>61167495
Depends on the back stock. Given there is a global storage of 580. It is probably a 390x refurbished.

should I use hdmi or displayport to plug my 4k monitor in?

>>61167782
Depends on the port versions on your monitor/GPU, but probably DisplayPort

>>61167782
No difference but display port allows more functionality and some gysnc or freesync monitors only have display port?

>>61167662

Going to add $20 for the previously used hdd to install the games on. You still went under $350 so you got your brownie points.

https://youtu.be/Xp8H6j2vAxE

>>61167878
>>61167897

both have displayport 1.4
gpu: hdmi 2.0
display: hdmi 1.4

so I need displayport. why wouldn't they put hdmi 2.0 on a 4k monitor? who knows. too bad displayport cables are expensive as fuck

Good thermal paste to use? Applying my CPU, and reapplying it on my old GPU.

R8 my current build, I'm buying the 1080ti and the U2515H in the next few weeks
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

>>61167951
Gelid GC Extreme and Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut are the best non-conductive ones available.

>>61161093
>Get a 1600x if you don't OC
can someone tell me why

>>61167982
You need to give us the public URL, that one will use our session to populate it.

>>61167989
it OCs itself
no it is not self-aware

>>61167994
I'm on my phone how do I do that?

>>61167948
Any good monitor will come with a display port cable

>>61168060
It should be called the permalink or public link (can't remember the term) and it will have some alphanumeric code on the end of it

>>61168060
There is a link to the build on the page.

>>61168075
>>61168078
Shit I'm stupid here it is
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xBr8cc

>>61168096
Well there is absolutely no reason to get a 4970K, if you for some reason absolutely want to stay with Intel you should get a 7700K or 7600K.

Since you're not going to game at over 60 fps you should probably go with a Ryzen 7 1700 build and just OC it to ~4Ghz.

>>61168134
This is my current build not one I'm going to buy and put together

>>61168065
it came with 3 different cables :^)

>>61164125
Size really doesn't matter just up your sensitivity for the ultimate 7200 no scope gaming action

>>61164203
Hehe wagecuck that gets tons of free time to browse through tons of reviews.
Get on my level nerds

Can someone explain me what's with the single and dual channel thing?
What if I put single memory stick to a dual channel mobo? What if I put three or four sticks to dual channel?
Do they all have to be exactly the same?
why it's so complicated

Hey guys, I could use some help here.

I built my own computer a year ago with this build :

>970
>I5 6600k
>gigabyte motherboard
>16 GB RAM

The motherboard fried during a storm a few weeks ago. Now, the thing is they don't make so many 6th generation cards anymore , and if I were to buy one , I'd have to swap it out next time I change the proc. Also, a 7700k isn't really that much better than a 6600k, i'd rather buy a 1070 for the price. So, do you guys think I should :
>buy a new mobo with a 7700K
>or buy a mobo that can handle both 6th or 7th gen, and if so, which? Any recommendations?

Thanks, i'm kinda at a loss as to what to do right now.

>>61168200
It's fairly complex so here you go: http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1349-ram-how-dual-channel-works-vs-single-channel

>>61161271

1440p at 100+hz

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p6RFf7/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cf98TW/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvkb
I am retarded what is the difference between these two

>>61164796
I heard a recommendation that games nowadays need 3-4gb so in say 2 or even 1 year games are gonna be asking for more ram. So its probably best to get the 6gb. Its not really a massive jump in price considering

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Are EVGA motherboards any good ?

>>61168530
Hardware is usually good, customer service is very good, firmware can be a little buggy (e.g. weird UEFI quirks or compatibility issues). I haven't used one for a few years though so perhaps they've improved. I will emphasize that they probably have the best customer service of any mobo manufacturer.

Can I just go with the cheapest mobo available if I don't OC and don't need any spaceship stuff?

>>61168638
yes, just make sure to get a first party one like an intel or amd

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Sandy Bridge Veteran here, I'm thinking about upgrading to Zen.

I have a stock i7 2600 "K" @3.4Ghz and my question is, is it worth it to upgrade to a R5 1600 and OC it to 4Ghz? Is the performance gain worth the 200 bucks? I don't do video editing, I stream games with Steam Link and to Twitch, and play on 1080p/60FPS. My i7 is doing a good job but at demanding games like Witcher 3 I see videos where people with a better CPU get about 10-15 FPS more.

Should I just wait for Zen 2? I'm planning to upgrade to a better GPU and to 21:9 4K in the next year. Currently running a GTX 1060 that is doing a good job.

>>61168719
I'm in a similar situation but with a 3770K, I decided to wait for Zen2 and see how things shake out. Maybe Intel will actually get their shit together or AMD will continue kicking them in the dick in which case I'll make my first AMD build in 10 years.

>>61168719
You will benefit greatly from the extra cores when you're streaming but you probably won't see any FPS gain because your GPU is the bottleneck. If all you want is greater FPS you bad a better card.

I wouldn't advise waiting for Zen 2. It's not coming for a while and it'll be on AM4 so you can just sell your 1600 and slap the new one in.

>>61168719
You have a K processor at stock? Just OC it and hold out as long as you can.

I need a mobo that can handle both 6th and 7th gen, is there any legit reason for me to take a z-170A "gaming" over the basic model? Are there any real improvements or is the $100 just for looks?

>>61168608
Yeah I was reading in the reviews of suspect UEFI, I like that they are based in USA and thier customer service speak English

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/JackMorgan64/saved/HpNrHx

I just pressed buttons and listened to the thingy to tell me if things were compatible. I never make computer before.
I was thinking of buying Cyber Power because am poor student who gives partial paycheck to family.
Might be while before this become reality.
Is good?

>>61169012
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>>61168923
It's decent but GTX 1050ti is quite weak and that Freesync on the monitor won't be used by an Nvidia card. Also quite a low wattage PSU, i would've picked something higher in case you want to upgrade the GPU.

>>61168923
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BrLNVY
- better mobo
- faster ram
- added ssd
- better psu
- better and bigger monitor
- top tier mouse
DO NOT pay for windows. if you're a student check if you can get a free windows key from Dreamspark. if not then just fucking pirate it, unless you're a massive cuck.
if you want to save money then go with your monitor and mouse choices. don't throw out ssd.

>>61169026
bullshit. 450 watts is enough for 1080 and 7700k. and future gpus will only use less power, not more.

>>61169026
Thank you for heads up will edit soon

>>61168810
Why do you need something that handles both kaby-lake and skylake? Those would be z270, not z170 (unless you bios update it).

>>61169104
Wow thank you very much
Saved

>>61169104
>bullshit. 450 watts is enough for 1080 and 7700k. and future gpus will only use less power, not more.
Powerspikes happens, overclocking happens, any GPU that performs better than a 1050ti would use more power than it, and PSU being at or near full load is a bad thing because they aren't as efficient at such a load. You did change his build to 550w so all is good, but 450 is nothing ideal.

hi whats the best mouse for like 20 Euros of amazon? none of this blingbling led stuff please just one that clicks and feels good inhand

>>61169113

yes, i was planning to update the BIOS.

I need something that can handle both because i'm not buying a new proc yet.
I Just want to know whether the fancy cards are better or if it's just for show.

>>61170122
>I need something that can handle both because i'm not buying a new proc yet.
So you already have a skylake CPU?

>>61170199

Yes. I have a 6600k right now. I'm planning to upgrade in the future,but I just want a mobo that can OC it well for the time being , that I can insert a 7th generation in eventually.

>>61170255
The best upgrade you can do right now is a 7700k, that's paying $315 just to get hyperthreading, Kaby-Lake is worthless for you. Coffeelake might be released on LGA 1151 too but it most likely won't, and it's just 2 more cores. I'd just buy a z170 motherboard if i were you.

>>61170322

I'd rather not invest in a 7700K for the time being. I don't think I was clear enough : my mobo fried and I just need a replacement that can eventually fit a 7700k , but the difference between it and the 6600k is really too negligible for me to justify the price.
I'll get a z170 then, thanks!

>>61170413
that sounds like a terrible upgrade path.

200+$ to just OC and then eventually be able to switch to a slightly better CPU and then you're stuck again.

>>61170599

What would you recommend , then?

>>61170693
I don't know precisely.
But here are some considerations:
>6600k at stock is already perfectly fine for gaymen, OC'ing won't fix the architectural problems (low thread count=shit minimum FPS).
>6600k at stock matches Sandy, Ivy at MAX OC, max ram speed possible already
>6600k still has nice resale value thanks to normiegaymen not knowing yet about it being obsolete, and coffeelake with its core-upping not being out nor near release

Personally I guess I would either sell everything and get a 6700k/7700k build or an equivalent Ryzen 1600 build (much less expensive) IF I HAD TO upgrayd, if not i'd wait it out till coffeelake

>>61170752

Yeah i think the 6600k is pretty fine right now, I mean I just have to get a mobo because mine fried :^)

I can get a mobo that runs both types, then I'll sell it and get a 7700K eventually, what do you think of that then? Sounds reasonable?