OFFICIAL VEGA REVIEW >le vega is a workstation card

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Housefire

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>>61159131
You know that we can just click on the link and see that you're cherrypicking, right?

>>61159131
>>61159150
>>61159180
Hello sir can you pls delet this

>literally 1070 performance in games

Are you kidding me?

>>61159131
AMD think we are retarded, the Quadros can gayming, why the vega frontier can't gayming?

Also I hate this crazy TDP, HBM was a mistake.

I think the RX Vega will be 8-12% faster but will never beat the Ti nor the Titan X and Xp. The TDP will not be better.

>>61159307
Either AMD has the best RX drivers coming or it's time to get them on suicide watch. The Fury X is already close to a 1070.

>>61159308
HBM is much more energy efficient than GDDR5, especially high clocking GDDR5X. It's just a piece of shit.

>>61159308
>AMD think we are retarded
If you take a look at r/amd you'd know why. /g/ recently isn't far from them

>>61159308
>the Quadros can gayming

And yet look at that, PCPer didn't test the Quadros in their gaming tests, despite clearly having access to them. Really makes you think (about how much Ryan gets paid for this).

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>>61159621
They do not want to humiliate AMD

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>>61159577
>much more
Useless, only if you really want save few watts

>>61159775
>rajeet totally BTFO after accusing pcper of getting nvidia money
If anything Ryan doesn't want to curbstomp amd to level when they refuse to send him future samples.

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>>61159775
>>61159621

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The leaks and info in drivers for greenland (vega 10) appeared at the same time as ellesmere and baffin (polaris 10 and 11). So supposedly it was developed at the same time and was probably supposed to be released at a similar time frame.
But it's basically been delayed for a year.
Wouldn't be surprised if the new features that vega brings basically broke the whole card and they're running with most features turned off.
Honestly with how much they want to focus the attention to RX Vega I think they still believe they can fix this shit with drivers.
Or they're just not talking about FE on purpose because they're attempting to cut their losses and they hope more people will buy it if there's as little bad press as possible.

>>61159775
Literal fiction. That Quadro has the exact same specs as a Titan Xp. There's no chance whatsoever it gets an extra 10fps and more than double the minimums, especially with a driver optimised for non-gaming loads.

Post the source.

>>61161134
It's over.

https://videocardz.com/65014/nvidia-quadro-p6000-outperforms-titan-x-pascal-in-gaming-benchmarks

Fire Raja.

>>61161112
>Wouldn't be surprised if the new features that vega brings basically broke the whole card and they're running with most features turned off.
Pretty much. >>61153772

>>61159307
>Are you kidding me?
Called it. We knew it was gonna be slightly above 1070 since the Prey demo dood

>>61159131
w-wait for drivers.
just wait.

>>61161257
>b-but muh stutter frame analysis
I wonder if that faggot killed himself or posts another shill pasta now.

>>61161257
Ironically enough, the RX Vega will have WORSE gaming performance than that, because:
>cut down
>clocked much lower

So RXVega=1060 level or slightly above

>>61161294
If vega rx is on par with rx 580, this probably would be the worst gpu ever released.

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1060 game performance confirmed
I am speechless.

>>61161334
AMD would absolutely not release this card if it had the same performance as the 580/1060. It wouldn't exist.

>>61161334
to be fair nvidia cards are massively better in GTA V

The review is bit inconsistent. Why do they only do only benchmark using certain cards? Why so much attention to gaming side of things when the card is meant for professionals? 7 pages of gaming related benchmarks. 1 page for professional related benchmarks.

Here's the nvidia's PX000 series card reviews. Stark difference.

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>>61161355
>>61161358
Right.
It matches a 1070 in the other games more or less.
Problem is given this a RXVega can't possibly even HOPE to match a 1080.

And as mentioned, it'll likely perform even worse than this so sub 1070

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>>61161134

>same specs

>>61161411
All depends on how much you believe that the current driver can't leverage any of Vega's new abilities, like tile based rendering, and is merely using fallback options on the hardware.

Remember how big a deal TBR was for Maxwell? Well, those kinds of gains could happen still here if that report is legit and modern Windows PCs are treating Vega FE just like it's an overclocked FuryX.

A lot of shit just doesn't add up right now. This is a big, power hungry, expensive die and AMD is not good at launching products. I don't think this chip would ever have made it to market if this was its ceiling.

This thing was clearly rushed out of the gate to meet a Q2 deadline

>>61161179
>Source: HotHardware

Wow, truly a credible source. I totally believe it! Never mind that it contradicts every other test of the identically-specced Titan Xp. I guess the big news is that Nvidia's workstation drivers are actually better for gaming than their gaming-focused ones, since "HotHardware" has a reputation beyond reproach.

GeForce BTFO!

>>61161413
>Titan Xp
>posts Titan X Pascal specs

Are you literally retarded?

>>61161485
R.I.P.
>At most, I could see AMD adding another 10% to the results we see with an odd case of a significantly under-developed part of the driver stack going beyond that.
>Looking at these results, it is still possible for Vega to be a success in the consumer gaming market, but it is going to need to be priced accordingly (sub 400$). And we just don’t know what NVIDIA might have sitting in reserve to address Vega and its derivatives this year – refreshed hardware, lower prices, etc.

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reminder that GTX 1080 Ti (GP102) is 471mm2
VEGA is 564mm2 ;^)

>>61161598
>At most, I could see AMD adding another 10% to the results we see
Says who? This is complete conjecture. If the driver is fucked then there is no telling what the performance gains will be.

The only reason this card exists (all 40 of them that got made) was to placate stockholders or save someone's job somehow.

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>>61161645
>Says who?
The flippin' reviewer from OP that physically has the card and has tinkered with it for 24 hours.

I'm sorry dood but yours is conjecture if even that, not his.

>>61161221
If that's true, then this is really disappointing. Vega is out of my budget range, so the thing I'm most interested in is seeing AMD's tbdr implementation. That's what I wanted to see explored, since I want to know how that's going to filter down to us pleb tier owners.

>>61161700
Well, they can always fix up the drivers. Theoretically. Just Wait(tm).

>>61161683
>The flippin' reviewer from OP that physically has the card and has tinkered with it for 24 hours.
There aren't any official drivers yet to take full advantage of the architecture

>>61161731
>There aren't any official drivers yet to take full advantage of the architecture
[citation needed]

>>61161751
Wine technology, son.

AMD is done.

>>61161731
Yes JUST WAIT
Meanwhile at 564mm2 die size AMD might beat the 1.7 nvidia meme.

>>61161765
Goodnews!
RxVega might match the 1080 by 2019.

NVIDIOTS BTFO

>>61161765
>Wine technology
?

>>61161783
Slow and steady wins the race

Slow and steady...

Daily reminder that workstation cards perform absolutely the same as "gaming"/consumer cards.

See this comparison between the Quadro M6000 and the Maxwell Titan X (incidentally both based on GM200)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC_sx6A5Wko

I'd be very surprised if we see even 10% improvement in games from the FE to RX Vega

>>61161751
>[citation needed]
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6kdwea/vega_fe_doesnt_seem_to_be_doing_tiled/djld98t/

> This arch is a massive change from anything they have released with GCN. They built in fallbacks in the hardware because of the massive changes. Its a protection against poorly written games and helps AMD have a starting point for driver development. Hell even architecturally Vega is essentially Fiji at its most basic thats why it is performing exactly like it because none of its new features are enabled or have a driver published for them yet. _It is performing like a Fury X at 1400 MHz because that is exactly how every computer is treating it._

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>>61161783

>tfw when your cards performance gets better with time and ages like a fine wine
>tfw nvidiots see performance dropping after day 1

Life's good lands.

>>61161485
So they basically tried copying a bunch of shit Nvidia has done without the driver team to pull it off. Which gives us the unmitigated disaster that is Vega

>>61161849
At least nvidiots have good drivers from day 1

>>61161813
So basically some guy off leddit?

>>61161871
> So basically some guy off leddit?

>>61161485
> the current driver can't leverage any of Vega's new abilities, like tile based rendering, and is merely using fallback options on the hardware.

>>61161813
>random comment on shittit
Hopeful speculation at best. Even that hopefulness shows how AMD suchs at driver resolution at launch date.

More realistically, the card is just that. However drivers will probably improve over time and get ~10-20% boost over years. But thats just the usual shtick. By the time AMD's cards are fully functioning, Nvidia will be 2-3 generations ahead. So its kinda pointless to "wait" till drivers are mature.

mfw I will have to jump to the GreenTeam coming my next year gpu refresh

>>61161871
r/amd is official amd shill outlet
its mods are RT+ faggots

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>>61161797
AMD surge incoming.

>>61161891
There's no speculation about VEGA not doing tiled rasterization though

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How the FckU did this even happen

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Repeat after me:

1070 level performance

>>61161908
Speculation. AMD hasn't confirmed it.

General AMD fanboy consensus doesn't make it true. Its just a convenient plausible conjecture.

>>61161871
pcper tested live yesterday
vega didn't do tiled rendering

>>61161927
>vega engineering team.jpg

>>61161953
*1060

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>>61161954
AMD don't need to confirm anything when it's been already tested.

>>61161992
Conjecture

>>61161891
He disassembled the drivers with IDA. Doesn't get much more concrete than that. (If you don't know what IDA is, just leave. You don't belong here)

>>61162040
AMDrones don't want to believe!

>>61161575

Sorry. No bully.

Wow the shilling is strong in this thread

>>61162040
>Doesn't get much more concrete than that
Visual proofs does.

>>61159307
Nope.

Glad I kept my 390x

WTF is AMD doing first the fury then this

>>61162263
> first fury

But the Fury X is still a gread GPU

>>61162030
That's not tile based rendering. They've stated months ago Vega will have it so unless that changed then the current driver is not working fully.

>>61162340
> current driver

Does Vega even have drivers? Isn't it just regular ass drivers for current gpus?

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>>61162398
>amd
>drivers
do you really think this was a meme

>>61162398
As far as I know (not much admittedly) the "Vega" driver on AMD's website is basically identical to the driver supplied to Fiji.

>>61162429
that gif made me hate anime

>>61162446
> girls laugh at him for being stupid
> "FUCK G-GIRLS!"

>>61162467
No it's not that. That's like all the concentrated animu cringiness, pedovibe and austism in one single .gif

Aylmao, just browsed through reddit-AMD.

They are all trying to forget the gaming performance and suddenly all of them claim to use the GPU for "professional" software.

Anyways, AMD will never catch up to Nvidia again in the consumer departement, unless Nvidia goes Intel style, which they won't.

>>61162515
I understand. I don't watch modern anime.

>>61162549
>I don't watch modern anime
It's horrible desu.
Wtf happened between the 80s and now?

>>61162571
NEETs and virgins that prefer drawings to real women wanted more kawaii anime to masturbate to.

>>61162571
It's easier to release more shows now than before. Most are shit and it gives the impression that all shows are shit.

>>61162610
Can you recommend a down on earth anime for young adults without high schoolers?

>>61161805

No, they do not perform the same if you load the proper drivers for each card.

Workstation cards running proper drivers are slower than gaming cards (~10-30%) because their renderings are focused on accuracy/precision not performance. They also don't have nearly as nearly as many artifacts in the renderings.

That's why graphical studios don't use normal "gaming" cards for their projects.

>>61162602
>Most are shit and it gives the impression that all shows are shit
I'm going by what autistic weebs recommend on 4chin. Tried watching some and they're utter shit. Unwatchable.
>>61162602
>NEETs and virgins that prefer drawings to real women wanted more kawaii anime to masturbate to.
Chicken or the egg: maybe the animu turned them in the sorry bastards they are and not the other way around?

>>61162245
You know you can download the drivers, download IDA, and disassemble it yourself, right?

>>61162643
Planetes

Hopefully this will make the RX easier/cheaper to get

>>61162302
Then why is my 4+ year old 290/390just as fast?

>>61163148
because they're fury without HBMeme

>>61162985
anon I >>61162547
you can always wait tho

Are we waiting for NAVI now AMDBROS?
Stacked DRAM will surely BTFO Volta.

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>>61163148
As a Fury X?
It's not.
It is about as fast as an RX 480 though.

Daily reminder that more people own Nvidia's Flagship card than people owning AMD's midrange card.

Source; Steam HW survey

>>61163329
cherrypick much?
But HOL'UP

Which card is which in AMD's rebranding clusterfudge of a lineup?

280x=?
290x=?

>>61163329
> tfw you realize the nvidia 1080 ti is so fucking powerful that there exists the possibility of AMD being uncapable of competition.

How did nvidia do it, seriously?

>>61163360
Dead silicon.

Polaris replaced Hawaii.
Tonga replaced 280X.

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>>61163360
290x = 390 = RX 480 (performance-wise)
7970 GHz = 280x = R9 380x (performance-wise)
The 280x doesn't really fit into any of AMD's modern GPUs.
Not as powerful as a 470/570, more powerful than a 460/560, and frankly kind of irrelevant at this point.
And I say that as someone who used to own a 280x.
>>61163385
Ehh, looks like AMD is going to squander all the hype they had surrounding Vega, guess they're more focused on the console market?

>>61163360
290/x and 390/x are both Hawaii.

The 280/x is Tahiti aka 7970.

>>61163393
That's oversimplifying things. Technically Polaris replaced Tonga from a price and performance standpoint. Tonga from Tahiti was kind of a lateral move. More power efficient and updated GCN but just about as powerful as the former flagship Tahiti.

Nothing has really replaced Hawaii yet since Fiji seems like it was almost experimental at this point.

>>61163159

It literally has hbm2

>>61163329
Oh wow an extra 6fps

>>61163557
Uhh, you mean 16?
Fury X anon, not Fury.

>>61162515
>Watching modern cute shit
There's your problem.

>>61161411
>>61161334
Why is the vega clocked so low? It clocks at 1600 out of the box.

>>61164122
1600 is max burst but it goes to housefire levels and throttles down. It runs at 1350-1400 normally.

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>>61164157
to be expected of a blower on a die significantly bigger than the 1080ti. I found pic related.
It's literally performing exactly like a fury at it's frequency. I'm leaning towards agreeing with the "there is something horribly wrong with the drivers" people.

>>61159150
The thing managed to be hotter than fury
Its literally fury 2.0

>>61164215
Driver problems are very probable and I fully expect the Rx Vega to perform better, otherwise there would be no reason for AMD to waste money on this card.
However, I would not expect this card to outperform the 1080Ti in any shape or form, but rather deliver a performance greater to a 1080 for a competitive price.

>>61164215
Could amd be reaching their limits?

>>61161134
Tian X (pascal) > Titan Xp = Quadro P6000

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>let's release a card without the necessary drivers
this is what happens when you let pajeet run the show

>>61159131
WHAT DID WE DO TO DESERVE THIS /G/ROS

>>61164593
You keep buying their cards

>>61164593
You kept shilling how great King Poojet was and all his creations btfo Nvidia ignoring the R&D funds disparity between ati and nvidia now, and 10 years ago. Also Huang isn't a retard like Krzanich.

>>61163575
Oops brainfart.

Shame the Vega isn't any faster.

Hopefully the rx version is better for games but after the 480 580 bullshit I doubt it

>>61164570
<*

https://videocardz.com/70655/amd-announces-capsaicin-siggraph-with-no-word-about-rx-vega

Well...

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>>61159150

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>>61159567
>The Fury X is already close to a 1070.

Long way to reach there.

Pathetic

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>>61165702
>vega never happened
>wait for navi

>>61165702
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>61162536
Volta better be a radical departure beyond their GV100 having tensor cores for it to be anything moe than an increment of Kepler like the last three gens.

We had
>Fermi
>Stripped compute and scheduling, called it Kepler
>Stripped compute, added compression, tweaked for clocks, called it Kepler2
>Added tiled raster, tweaked for clocks, called it Maxwell
>improved compression and geometry, tweaked for clocks, called it Pascal

>>61166110
Consumer volta will deffinitely be different chip. No way 800+mm2 die is going into consumer card and tensor cores are useless for games.

>>61166110
Every amd card until vega is 7xxx refresh.

>>61166144
>tensor cores are useless for games.
implying Nvidia wont force developer to use it as gamework feature set

>>61161575
In fairness to him, the naming of Nvidia's Titan X line is both retarded and baffling.

>>61159131
DOA
O
A

>>61159180
>OP gets BTFO within 2 posts
wew

>>61166162
The 290s are a different architecture

reminder to hide and ignore /v/ children threads.

/Vega.+10(6|7|8)0/i
/amd.+(finish|bank|house)/i
/RX Vega/i
/(r|p)a(j|k)(eet|esh|eem)?/i

>>61166144
You can use tensor cores for meme shit, even Google is pushing tensor on mobile because muh AI and deep meme
We will see tensor in Gameworks
>>61167480
The 290's are a hefty improvement over 7xxx, but they're still based around GCN
>>61166162
No, Terascale was somewhat long lived, but it lived about as much as Tesla did
>>61163356
>everyone uses Steam
gb2>>>/v/
>>61167521
This is a good filter

>>61167521
oh i forgot some of the /v/ermin slang and i should make it more accurate

/ayymd/i
/\ba(yy)?md\b.+(finish|bank|house)/i
/another major disappointment/i

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>>61159131
>High Bandwidth Memory 2
what did they mean by this

>>61167896
There is no way this is real.

It'll be interesting to see what features are actually activated in the driver.
If none of them are actually activated, it may explain the results sometimes being identical to Fury.

>>61161598
There is a difference between driver optimizations and fixing a barely functioning driver to use all available hardware features.

IFF the Vega drivers are actually this fucked, I could see it gaining 30-50% more performance.
If the hardware is actually working properly, the ~10% figure seems likely.

>>61167896
>>61167998
Why wouldn't it be true?
Vega only uses 2 stacks. It has the same bandwidth as the Fury X with 4 stacks HBM1. Had they chosen 4 stacks, it'd be around 1TB/s.

GPUs aren't bandwidth limited as of now.
Why they chose HBM? Who the fuck knows.

>>61168241
According to rumors none. Anons say that this is basically Fiji drivers.
That would explain why it benches like overclocked FuryX. Because without new features it basically is.

>>61168267
It runs slightly modified Fiji drivers. Its okay for compute, but the lack of TBR and Primitive Shaders makes it shit at mixed/graphical workloads.

The Fiji drivers another bulshit

>>61159131
>AMD Vega (300w)
Let's ignore that nVidia is about 500w

>>61165764
It's normally 5-6 frames behind and surpasses it in shit that fully takes advantage of new APIs like Doom. That's why Doom is in every fucking video demonstration AMD does.

>>61167896
what does the memory interface mean? looks like it's meant for high resolution textures

>>61159131
>workstation card
>perhaps the card is optimized for workstation loads
>retards talking about game performance

>>61170458
don't go to 4chan during summer

>>61168266
>GPUs aren't bandwidth limited as of now.
They are, though. That's the only reason Fury could even compete. AMD screwed the pooch by not giving Vega a 700+ Gbps bus.

>>61170408
Memory bus width is how much data you can read or write to memory at a time. Multiply it by clock speed to find how much data you can transfer in a second.

>>61170764
shouldn't vega then destroy everything?

>>61170777
>shouldn't vega then destroy everything despite having lower memory bandwidth than the 1080 and functionally the same GPU core as Fury X, which was underpowered two years ago?
No? Why would it?

>>61161805
Literally AMD released a card that didn't even come with complete Vega codepaths. FE was just to show investors that they have something in the works that is paying off, otherwise RTG would be completely laughed off of AMD's R&D budget.

>gaymen
Gaming mode doesn't do anything. It doesn't even surpass the framerate on the original DOOM demonstration.
>le no improvement for RX Vega meme
No game profiles, no TBDR, no HBCC, only primitive shaders are added into the driver, while having a wider RBE, clocking 60% higher than the Fury, a wider pipeline, and segmentable SIMDs (probably also added more scalar ALUs in than original GCN design) in their NCU. You should probably wait to make a conclusion about it's gayming performance bud.
>losing in professional benchmarks
Since the WX7100 is literally so close in SPV12 to Vega FE, it's pretty clear Vega is basically being driven off of raw horsepower as is. SPV12 is also a pretty shitty test overall due to using very old software (fucking Solidworks 2013 and Maya 2013, as well as Creo 2?) and you should use SPECapc which is uses much more recent and well optimized software. RPM should also be interesting.
>300W
It's not clear whether or not Vega does it but at 200W/240W steppings the chip turns off groups of SIMDs. This is all rumor of course.

>>61170458
You can game on quadros just fine. The 1080ti equivalent of a quadro has pretty much the same gaming performance.

>>61170817
B3D dudes are still smashing their heads against the wall trying to guess WHY the fuck Vega uses Fiji's immidiate mode rasterizer.

>>61170817
Raja is hogging the real Vega drivers all to himself. He probably pets them while he sleeps next to it at night.

No Raja and /r/amd told me ite fake news. Everyone who disagrees is /v/editor.
Vega is super special new architecture and requires specailly tailored drivers to game.

>>61170881
Sounds gay.

>>61170886
Stop shitposting.

>>61170886
Yep, screen cap this post the RX Vega will beat the 1080ti by a mile and castrate Nvidia.

>>61170910
see
>>61170458

>>61170919
It depends on their TBDR efficiency and how well Primitive Shaders will bost geometry throughtput.
>>61170925
see
>>61170817

>>61170933
So I expect about 30% more performance than a 1080ti? Sounds good.

>>61170948
We don't know. AMD gave use zero technical data about actual Vega uarch.

>>61170955
Well I trust in AMD, they have not once not kept their promise.

>>61170987
same

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>>61170987
>AMD
>keeping their promise

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Radeon-Vega-Frontier-Edition-16GB-Air-Cooled-Review/Early-Overclocking-and-Te

>Set power target to +20%, was drawing ~350 watts

AYYMD HOUSEFIRES

>>61170832
Actually p6000 is the most powerful gaming card of all cards

>>61172070
It's on par with Titan Xp, both are full gp102 (3840 shaders).

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guys you told me to wait for vega
it's shit
now what

>>61172119
Wait for drivers.

>>61172119
Wait for drivers with working TBDR and Primitve Shaders.

Really hope this is just bad because of drivers being unfinished. Disappointing if after all this time it's only able to really compete with the 1070.

>>61170925
You can game with quadros...

Isn't their mistake just hyping up a workstation card for gaymen in the first place?

>>61173317
AND specifically said it was not for gaming and that you should wait for RX Vega.

>>61171114
>300 * 1.2 = 360
DSP pls go

>>61162536

AMD subreddit is like seeing the fall of Berlin. Everyone is beside themselves, the threads are emptying out, AMDfags are arguing semantics among themselves and blaming each other for Vega being overpriced shit and calling each other secret nvidis shills, suddenly everyone’s an OpenCL developer. Complete denial or acceptance that there’s no way AMD will ever compete in the high end GPU space

>>61172070
Titan X (pascal) =/= Titan Xp

>>61165702
So people were right about vega being a failure..

>>61175240
They already changed it to just say "Vega".

>>61175331
It's SIGGRAPH so it's still be mainly about Vega Pro and EPYC+Instinct racks.

>>61175367
http://twitter.com/Radeon/status/881233662821486593

>>61175381
No shit they'll show and launch RX Vega there. The event itself will still be mainly about Pro and Instinct lines, it's a fucking SIGGRAPH, pal.

>announce
http://twitter.com/Radeon/status/881233662821486593

>>61175457
>Vega products
That includes WX, SSG, RX and Instinct. A fat fucking stack.

Screegrab this:
RX Vega will have 90% 1080ti perf and announced as starting price =399$

>>61175523
Impossible since the die is 500+ mm^2.

>>61175542
>Screegrab this:
It is possible.

Vega? Moar like Vaguer amirite?

>>61175585
Screenshot it yourself

>>61175585
Sure, it's possible, if AMD wants to lose money on every card sold.

https://twitter.com/killyourfm/status/881204308863180800

Fug we gonna launch with no dribers :---------DDDDDDDDD

>>61175965
Mommy Su needs to make a labor camp for RTG software team.

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>>61175985

It almost feels weird. For the first time in some 8 years (give it or take it) people are eagerly waiting for Radeon.

Damn I'm lucky, bought 1070 before it run out of stock. I thought about waiting for Vega...
AMD cannot compete with Nvidia anymore, they just cannot create a more efficient arch than Maxwell. In order to compete they have to get to 7nm long before nvidia.

HOW MUCH WILL RX VEGA BE AND FOR WHAT LEVEL OF PERFORMANCE

>>61176655
>700$
>between 1060 and 1070

>>61176655
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>>61176673

>$700

Yeah no.

>>61176699
Die is bigger than 1080Ti and HBM2 is expensive.

>>61176730
Yes.
Sources are saying between 750 and 850$ for the entry level model

>>61176797
Literally nobody would buy it at that price even if it reaches 1080Ti performance.

>>61176846
No one would buy it anyway, it's fucking Radeon, no one buys Radeon since forever.

>>61176846
Yes.
Hence why it's DOA.

>>61159804
That's the DRAM chip consumption. Most of the power savings come from the memory controller, something anand themselves have detailed before