is finder the gold standard for file managers?

>>61158459
Only recently due tabs.

>>61158459
>fagos

>>61158459

>finder
>gold

Is the same shit of Explorer.

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>>61158487

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LMAO
M
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>>61158459
>keeps showing system wide files by default unless you tell it to show only files from a specific location
>hides system folders by default only showing what brainlets like you want to see
>needs a terminal command to show hidden files instead of just having a checkbox on the GUI
>can't into merging folders properly in 2017
R O F L

well at least it's better than explorer lol

>>61158459
i use ls

>>61158487
dats gay br0

It has quite a few flaws. The file merging behavior is a bit... let's say confusing and not as convenient, and hiding/showing files is done with an obscure shortcut. It also doesn't rearrange icons if you resize windows. On one side it is more advanced than other file managers, with stuff like column view, spring loaded folders and services, and of course its file naming features but it's also very primitive on the other side.

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>>61158651
>keeps showing system wide files by default unless you tell it to show only files from a specific location
If you mean searching files from a specific folder by default, pic related

>hides system folders by default only showing what brainlets like you want to see
If you can't even find out how to show files in the system you probably shouldn't be checking any system files in the first place

>needs a terminal command to show hidden files instead of just having a checkbox on the GUI
Wrong, cmd+shift+.

Up until Windows 8.1 you couldn't really do this without opening a menu, selecting an option, reaching a tab and checking a box somewhere everytime you wanted to do one, either show or hide. Which to me seems like a waste of time.

>can't into merging folders properly in 2017
I'll give you that one

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nemo

>>61158459
That would be dolphin.

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>>61158903
>3 fucking keys for a simple action
The same goes for so many simple tasks it's ridiculous.
Want to delete a file/folder? try just pressing 'delete' oh wait, it's actually CMD+Delete :^) you can't even assign the delete key in the shortcuts option (macOS just werks™ right?).

>>61159124
Yeah instead of ctrl+h which is 1 whole finger less, it's an obscure shortcut.

Still it's not "needs a terminal command to show hidden files". Please get your facts straight.

>>61159124
>>Most PCs let you delete things with 1 button. Mac makes you do it with two, so it's extremely difficult to delete things on accident.

>>61158459
can i open a terminal on current folder? nop, i have to go back one dir and open on the folder itself..

cancer

>>61158459
fn+backspace for delete text
BUT
cmd+backspace for delete file

cancer

>>61159897
>fn+backspace for delete text
>BUT
>cmd+backspace for delete file
And?

Is there a Linux file manager that has that dual pane directory view? Like ranger, but GUI. I've been using Nemo and it sucks.

>>61159968
and what? its fucking garbage or are you too retarded to understand?

also.. can i backspace to go to the previous folder? nop.

cancer

>>61159998
>and what? its fucking garbage or are you too retarded to understand?
They're two completely different actions

>>61160010
not according to other actually decent file explorers or operating systems for that matter.

also i have to use fn+backspace on laptops but i have to use a completely different key on a desktop keyboard.

i thought apple was supposed to be intuitive?

Total Commander blows everything out of the water forever

>>61159971
Nemo does. just press F3.

>>61160062
I think id easily trade that 'criticism' for stuff like previewing files with spacebar, tabs, column view, mass renaming files, customizable toolbar, playing audio in thumbnail, spring loaded folders, list goes on

>>61158459
Oh Jesus Christ, no. God.
You can't even cut and paste, for fuck's sake.
Oh my Lord.

>>61160132
That's just two separate panes. I mean having parent and child directories side by side. Plus that third file info pane.

>>61158459
Yeah

>>61160203
>You can't even cut and paste
Cmd+C Cmd+Opt+V

>>61160394
I said cut not copy. Cut, not copy.

>>61160446
do you even know what cut paste is? the person that posted those shortcuts gave you exactly that.

>>61158459
No.
That would be norton commander.

>>61159100

this

>>61160446
>being retarded on the internet

>>61158459
"Everything" is the best for searching up stuff, it instantly gives you results, unlike Finder or Explorer.

>>61160228
It opens it the same dir, but you can navigate in each independently.
For the third pane, just press F9

>Unix tards need a separate file manager

>>61159124
That picture is bullshit. Barring every other Windows release(95,me,vista,8,10), the opposite others such as Windows 7 and XP are very reliable even though windows is shiet.

Linux has many random problems which causes crashing (kernel panics, boot failures, and more) however once you get it running smoothly it stays that way.

MacOS is best used with MacBooks because of the feature touch gestures provide, but in honesty that statement kind of gives validity to it being useless since it's basically for low end tasks (Facebook machine or useful ones like programming)

>>61158459
The best filemanager I have used is dolphin.
It does regular file manager things well (mass rename, tabs, previews, and a ton of features I would never use.
But one thing it has I haven't seen in any other file manager is having the built in terminal.
It works so well, if you just clicks through folders, it follows you, and always having a terminal makes a lot of sense in almost any scenario where you are working with files.

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>>61158459
nope

>>61160899
press f4.
It will change your life

>>61160911
Oh I know about that, but why wouldn't I hide it when I don't need it?

>>61160899
so its like finder but with terrible icons ?

>>61160930
when would you not need it?
Why did you want a file?

>>61160990
Why would I need a terminal to open files, the operation I do the most often in my file manager?

>>61161035
I use both, whatever is most convenient.
Having it there all the time just makes it a bit more convenient.

No. Dolphin is.

>>61158650
This is not the case in more recent versions

>>61159998
Cmd+up to go up an folder
Cmd+down to go down a folder or open file

>>61158459
>.DS_Store

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>>61158459
is nemo the gold standard for file managers?

>>61159124
>Linux
>Reliable
nice meme

>>61159852
>implying the trash bin doesn't exist
please ffs stop being retarded
>>61160947
>proper window resizing
>proper shortcuts
it's like finder, but better

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mfw guy who taught comp sci at my highschool worked on hfs+ for apple in the 90s

he bragged about it.

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>try to delete a clip on imovie
>doesn't work
>finally realize I need to use backspace to delete
>delete key doesn't delete
Who comes up with this shit?

>>61163063
I don't even use linux but was scrolling and saw this and holy shit that is beautiful

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>>61166289
Are you on hackintosh or something? This is what a mac keyboard looks like.

"Backspace" is delete.

>>61158459
>MATLAB

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>>61159124
>Want to delete a file/folder? try just pressing 'delete' oh wait, it's actually CMD+Delete :^) you can't even assign the delete key in the shortcuts option
bitch please

Changing the delete shortcut isn't an option in Finder's preferences because macOS lets you change key shortcuts for menu items on a system-wide basis, even third party apps. You can change shortcuts for Firefox or Photoshop or anything that uses the native menubar like this, and it'd be moronic to duplicate the functionality in the Finder itself.

>>61166289
for some menus, you have to hold command and delete

krusader

>>61160899
The sheer number of little things KDE manages to get wrong always amazes me, I can see a ton of shit in that screenshot alone. It feels so amateur compared to anything GTK+ based (GNOME, Cinnamon, XFCE, etc)

I don't know if this has been fixed in Sierra or later but for some reason you can't tag files using right click when using cover flow.

>>61167606
Well, too bad Dolphin is miles ahead of any GTK based file managers.

>>61158459

windows explorer with cortana is superior

>>61158459
>no root file system access

I'd say that's a negative...

>>61167606
What little things are triggering your autism?

>>61166653
Maybe he is using a non-Mac keyboard.

>>61167811
Forgive him, he is a macbook fag. He thinks using dongles is right.

>>61167780
Lots of little design flaws. There's no flow or sense of grouping and just feels… haphazard. A lot like if a bunch of programmers with the design capabilities of your average spoon tried their hand at design.

Note that this is coming who writes code in C family languages as a full time job

>>61167950
>Note that this is coming who writes code in C family languages as a full time job
fuck I need to go to bed

*coming from someone who

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I'm a big fan of XYplorer, personally.

>>61168194
Looks like a children's birthday party...

>windooze
>shitty layout
>lots of wasted space
>shitty and inconsistent application icons
>shitty file specific icons that are not aligned
>large toddler like menu bar
>shitty font
>shitty font rendering
>shitty date format (not using iso8601)
>shitty file size format (using base10)
>redundant file extension column
>sorting files by name
>uncategorized and messy downloads folder
>non-nude orcish armor remodel

I use altap salamander

>>61166315
thanks

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>>61158459
Finder is complete and total shit. Spotlight too

>>61170461
Finder's the best simply due to miller columns and how can you say Spotlight is bad?

>>61170481
it's extremely slow even with like half the indexing options unchecked. Alfred is better in every way

>>61170481
Is there a file explorer for Windows with the same Miller columns? I don't know how such an useful feature is still missing from the plethora of file explorers that exist fro Windowns

>>61159043
terrible
what a shame

>>61167606
>caring more about looks than functionality

>>61170634
But he is right, that flat meme in kde needs to die a horrible death. The only saving grace it has is that kvantum with included arc theme exists. They never found a middle ground, in the past it was glossy gradients and now it is just one fucking color without even a single separator or visual cue. You can't even call it material or whatever that thing from google is called.

>>61163063
I use the dark version of this theme and it is so qt

>>61170570
Your typical Windows user is too afraid/indifferent of new concepts like that

>>61170634
In software, there's no need to compromise either. Inadequacies on either side is a direct result of inadequacies in the developers of the software themselves or in the processes used to develop said software.

>>61158459
>single pane
>gold standard
nice try bud

>>61172449
If you window manager can juggle loose windows well the usefulness of panes is somewhat diminished. Panes are most useful to folks who maximize every window or have window managers that aren't so friendly to odd sized floating windows.

>>61160446
Its clear you haven't used OSX. Only retards try to talk about shit they don't know.

>>61159100
>>>61158459 (OP)
>That would be dolphin.

/thread

Also, Finder is shit. Not just Dolphin but most Linux file managers are superior. PCManFM, Thunar, MC...

>>61158459
The only nice thing on this picture is the word "MATLAB".

you cant even sort alphabetically with folders on top.

so no

>>61159043
> Jimi Hendrix

>>61165248
tfw finder can see icons in file picker on any browser

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>>61158650
>posting old as fuck versions
You fucking retard.

>>61158459
Are you the gold standard for never losing your virginity?

Already been said, Dolphin is best.
I'm back on Windows nowadays though. Explorer is fine, it doesn't annoy me.

Can't say the same for Finder, which is just awful. I don't understand why Apple, with all of their resources, still haven't fixed that broken mess. Is the file manager not the most important bit of software in an OS that a user interacts with on a day-to-day basis?
They should just do a complete re-write from scratch. But we already know where Apple's priorities are.

>>61158459
no

ranger is

>>61170461
How can you talk shit about Spotlight? It's awesome.
Finder is shit though.

I dont use file manager, i just keep my files IN TORRENT folder

>>61173349
huge kek at the fact that linuxfags constantly espouse values like openness, standards, and interoperability but something as baseline and essential as open/save panels are part of DE fiefdoms instead of just being a tiny functionally focused *nix-style program that can be swapped out like anything else.

Seriously, why do GTK and KDE need their own open panels? Shouldn't that just be part of XDG as a separately configurable user-selectable component? Why can't I boot up a debian based distro and just do

sudo aptitude install awesome-open-panel

instead of being saddled without whatever shitty choices the GNOME or KDE guys have made?