/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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>>61153748
>7700k

>>61153776
7700k only for 144hz is a pretty good advice desu

>>61153796
Yes it is. Even then a lot of users go for a 1600 or 1700 still because they might benefit from more cores better, but the 7700k still bests anything at high framerate and also some productivity software like Photoshop and such (anything that doesn't scale well from threads)

Is there a site that tells you the best bang for the buck for computer parts? I have a set budget.

>>61153845
It's entirely dependent on your specific usage so no website will tell you that.

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>>61153748
>>61153796
>>61153813
Reminder to report all Intel shills. These threads will continue misleading inexperienced builders until you do.

>>61153882
Only a shill would call someone else a shill, you shill.

Need mining machine. Should I just go for ryzen 1700 and rx580

>>61153985
frig off

>>61153985
>Need mining machine.
What for
>Ryzen 1700
For a GPU mining machine?
Please don't get yourself into mining without all the enormous knowledge it requires to make gains because you're gonna end up losing a lot of money just like all the people that drove on the mining craze

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>https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html
AMD FAGS BTFO

Is it safe to increase core voltage % on MSI afterburner?

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>>61154019
>2017
>signle thread is relevant

>>61153985
Use 7700K instead

is a G4560 with no GPU acceptable for a budget Linux build?

>>61154194
Why Linux specifically?

>>61154320
good point I guess it doesn't matter

>>61154460
Then yeah, g4560 for budget builds is obviously great.

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Do online prices typically drop near the end of the year? Is it wise to buy parts bit by bit over the next few months(take in mind that I won't be able to test them till my parts are all together as my ram on my old computers bust). Or just buy them all at once?

>>61154559
The Intel i7-7700K is already fantastic value. Don't delay, buy today!

>build a ryzen pc with c6h
>full of problems
thanks amd

Can anyone explain to me why the fuck isn't my Ryzen posting?

I did my setup twice so I am sure everything is plugged in.
RAM is compatible.
What the fuck is wrong?

>>61154775
Did you plug the HDMI cable into the motherboard, or the GPU?
Ryzen doesn't have an iGPU so the motherboard ports are worthless.

>>61154783
Yes.
HDMI cable to my 290x.

>>61154805
are all the fans spinning?
According to the guides, Ryzen takes forever to actually make its first post because the motherboard checks everything like 30 times before allowing itself to post.

>>61154775
It turns on but it doesn't post?

>>61154775
>Can anyone explain to me why the fuck isn't my Ryzen posting?
It's not posting because you're full of shit. Corelettes pretending to have a faulty amd CPU isn't new shill.

>>61154820
>>61154819
Fans spin on. Then spins off. Caught in a boot loop. No post.

>>61154833
you're taking the shitposting to a next-level, shill-kun

>>61154837
let it go through this for a while. The first post takes a while with Ryzen

>>61154775
>>61154849
Timestamp and pics, or you're full of jewtel shit.

>>61154837
Try leaving the bare minimum for it to post so only 1 RAM stick, no additional PCIe cards and all, unplug sata cables too
Try waiting 10 - 15 minutes if you haven't already, let it enter the boot loop and go take a shower

>>61154775
Typical AMD. Intel chips don't have these issues. Is it too late to return it?

>>61154861
>The first post takes a while with Ryzen
What?

>>61154868
Fuck off retard

>>61154868
>>61154833
You can suck my dick anon.

>>61154861
Will try.

>>61154869
If I remove all additional PCIe card how will i know it posted. Will try with 1 RAM.
No sata cable aside from SSD. Will try remove it.

>>61154887
For what? No i5 memes please.

>>61154920
>If I remove all additional PCIe card how will i know it posted
Additional beyond the GPU i meant

>>61154920
A 7700K, the best gaming CPU ever made. Why would you buy anything else?

Nevermind. False alarm my GPU wasn't slotted properly. Now it posts, and I even tried a few games. My AMD processor is running everything silky smooth without stutter.

>>61154957
>>61154949
shitposters out please

I'm interested in an external usb HDD. What brands are generally the most reliable?

Alright guys. It posted. Turns out I had to let it sit for ~5ish minutes of boot looping. No one warned me it would take that long so I kept turning it off after the fans spin down.

>>61155000
It's not supposed to take that long to boot, i suggest you update bios

>>61154957
That's good anon.

>>61155014
Will do. Gotta install my OS and get this up and running first.

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>>61154726

why do you all never talk about thermal paste here? which one is better for ryzen? which method?

>>61154194
That's what I'm using at the moment and it's pretty good.

>>61155043
semen and raw

>>61155043
Just use mayonnaise, premium brand thermal paste is a scam.

>>61155043
Line method directly above the die would be best.

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How long do people think I'll have to wait for AMD to match the performance of the 7700K? I want to support the underdog and all, but they're SO far behind the performance of the 7700K that I'm almost considering buying *spits* Intel.

Advice?

>>61155000
Checked.
>No one warned me it would take that long so I kept turning it off after the fans spin down.
I think there were at least 2 posters who mentioned over the past few days. Maybe vendor specific what's your motherboard anon?

>>61155043
AMD brand thermal paste

>>61155073
Asrock. I never noticed it being mentioned. Really scared me.

>>61155062
>Advice?
stop being a faggot

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>>61155043
>which one is better for ryzen?
Thermal paste helps thermal conductivity, it has no relation whatsoever to brand
I could slap thermal paste on my hard drives and stick heatsinks to it and the heat they produce would be better dissipated
There is very little difference between cheapo thermal paste and $10 thermal paste tube, so just get a $4 stick or such and you're good to go. Peanut or line method are the best because if you spread the paste yourself you're gonna create air bubbles in there, whereas letting it spread itself when you're sticking the heatsink in there will make it spread normally

>OP contains a mention of 7700k
>Autism and falseflagging in the thread
Really makes you think

>>61155062
Who is jooing who?

>>61155073
please don't check numbers outside of /b/

>>61155104
Don't pretend you're not a part of it. And your threads are a fuckton much worse than those with the 7700k considering all the shilling you do, faggot

should I buy this

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-amp-edition-6144mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-105-zt.html

>>61155082
>Asrock
I believe those podters had MSI, and others in thread strongly recommended ASRock.

>>61155118
>300 Good boy points
>390 fucking freedom bucks
>1060
No

>>61155118
Prices are quite a lot up thanks to miners but sure, it's a decent card

>>61155115
>please don't check numbers outside of /b/
Get fucked faggot

>>61155160
lurk more newfag

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I own windows 10 on my laptop and desktop but have no disk. If/when I get my ssd for desktop and want to put windows 10 on it. Can I move Windows on to it?

>>61155082
Let us know if it takes that long to post next time you boot.

Help! Newfag here
What is a good pc i can build for $700?

>>61155198
USB boot loader.

>>61155198
It's not recommended at all because the massively different drivers for your laptop can and will cause crashes if running on a desktop

>>61155185
>lurk more newfag
>moar

>>61155204
It doesn't. I had to restart my PC.

>>61155207
What do you want to do on your PC?

>>61155207
Just buy an Intel 7700K, Z270 motherboard and whatever else you can afford. The iGPU on the 7700K is more powerful than any AMD graphics card anyway.

>>61155198
> Can I move Windows on to it?
Sure. I suggest using something like Acronis True Image if you get an M.2 SSD and will have to migrate to GPT without data loss, it can do that.

>>61155207
Pentium G4560 (~$70)
H110 mATX motherboard (~$50)
2x8GB DDR4-2133 RAM (~$90)
240GB SATA3 SSD (~$90)
1TB 7200rpm HDD (~$50)
GTX 1050 Ti (~$150)
mATX paneled case (~$50)
450W 80+ Bronze semi-modular PSU (~$50)
That's $100 left over for whatever you want to upgrade/snort coke off of

>>61155207
What current parts do you have if any? Monitors, keyboard, PSU, ram, hard drives etc.

>>61155272
>GTX 1050 Ti (~$150)
Hehehehehe

Was gonna get an H7 to cool my 1600 but apparently they're gonna take a while to ship out AM4 brackets.
How much better is a Noctua U12s? Enough to justify the price difference?

>>61155298
FUCK YOU

>>61155298
What changed? I got a Niggabyte 1050Ti last week for $165.

>>61155314
>>61155298
At least 2GB cards are still available.

>>61155302
No. Unless you are doing some insane overclocking, you will never need a Noctua U12.

>>61155331
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MYMVAVM/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

>>61155330
That's how much I paid for a GTX 1060 6gb a few months ago when it was on sale.

>>61155332
Gonna OC to 4.0, I was just wanting something as quiet as possible. What do you recommend?

>>61155332
You'll need a beefy cooler for an AMD chip even at stock. They use a ton of power.

>>61155366
I bought mine from a mom and pop store that had 1050 Tis, 1060s and 480s in stock. No 570 or 580s though, they never were able to get them in stock.

How are current RAM and CPU prices? Will they get any better or worse in a month?

>>61155089
What's peanut method? Having trouble with Google
>>61155264
>>61155216
>>61155216
I'm planning to get a sata
price. I don't care much about the speed really just wanna see what all the hubbubs about.
I don't have a verification key. That's why I'm asking. Will authentification be an issue?

>>61155363
ASUS Dual are shit, though. I have a RX480 one, it went on sale (I wonder why) and sometimes after 3+ hours in Forza it does a colorful hang.

>>61155378
>No 570 or 580s though, they never were able to get them in stock.
Thanks for fueling my anger.

This is the worst time in a while to build a new PC, isn't it?

>>61155380
Good CPUs are dirt cheap, RAM is kinda pricey.

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>>61155398
proofs

>>61155380
Worse. Retailers won't go down unless nobody buys ram. In their eyes the consumer has already accepted the prices, and they will not likely get lower.

>>61155420
yeah

>>61155381
>What's peanut method?
Literally just put a small blop of paste in the middle, size of a peanut / slightly bigger than a pea
>Will authentification be an issue?
Most likely since i'm fairly sure windows license is attached to hardware, but cracking it is easy

lads, what you think

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Graphics-Cards/Gigabyte-NVIDIA-GeForce-GDDR5-Memory-Express-Black/B01MEHGRMS/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1498834589&sr=1-2&keywords=GTX+1050+Ti

>>61155465
good budget card

>>61153748
Anyone knows Sharkoon brand? I want to buy their casing, but unsure about their build quality of their casing?

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Is it really worth it to get a rx580 8gb over the gtx1070 8gb? I mean considering the difference in power usage. Overall i'll be saving with a gtx1070 and i'll be gaining better performance

>>61155539
Difference in power usage only comes into play under heavy load. How often is that for you and will it really save you any real money?

>>61155539
Usually no, but now especially not since the 580s are all miner fucked and you won't get one for a decent price.
Infact the 1070s are being gobbled too. GPU buying right now is a pain due to these cryptomining faggots.

>>61155568
Unless you have a Vsync ON your GPU will be at 100% in all latest titles. Get out dumb AMD shill, the clear choice here is the 1070. RX cards are only good if you plan on getting Freesync, which is pretty good and cheaper than Gsync.

Or you could just go by without any of these two anyway since none of us are hardcore CS:GO gaymers.

>>61155455
I'd like Microsoft updates though. Like with that recent wannacry ransomware nonsense. The upgrade fixed protection. As well as I want to avoid all those compatibility issues

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>>61153748
>this op

>>61155436
http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/2585-amd-16-8-3-drivers-fix-colorful-screen-hangs
Like this. I've monitored GPU temps, those are fine, custom fan curve helps a little, but it still hangs. I suspect either mem voltage is low (freq too high) or VRM reach 110C or something, there are no sensors on them.

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>>61154019

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>>61155631
>gamersnexus

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whats the difference? is m.2 any good? is it a meme?

>>61155639
DELET

Everybody knows that the 7700K murders any AMD CPoo!

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>>61155398
>colour

>>61155661
size

>>61154019
> Intel Core i3-7350K 2,566
> $149.99
> Intel Core i9-7900X @ 3.30GHz 2,491
> $990.63
INTEL FAGS ARE ON SUICIDE WATCH

which one is better or are they both essentially the same

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01MEHGRMS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01MG15JZS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

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>>61155685
MUH SINGLE CORE

>>61155661
> is m.2 any good?
Better in benchmarks, same in real life.

>>61155661
>M.2 SATA
If you have an M.2 slot, that means that you don't need extra SATA cables or power cables because you can just screw it into the board
>2.5" SATA
You need the abovementioned cables and somewhere to put the drive in your case. They are identical in every practical aspect.

Best config for gaming / multitasking for around $2000 with everything included (screen, keyboard...) ? (I can put a little more if it really improves the config)

BTW, I need to be able to pay in bitcoins, so if you have a good websites to recommend (I'm in europe) I'll take it. Otherwise it's fine, I'll find one myself

>>61155706
anything special I have to take in consideration?> like a special mobo or case or I can just select this one?

>>61155691
The more expensive one has a larger/better cooler.

>>61155568
Considering I'm going for gaming and I've never oc before but I think I'll end up making it a habit. What's real money? I'm a real Jew about money.
>>61155576
Yeah I know was just about to purchase last week.

>>61155716
>HURR GUIDE PLES SPOOON FED MEEE XDDD DURR
Fuck off, this is not your personal tech support. Either you do your research and come back with a drafted build or you fuck off and pay the normie tax for a prebuild.
Pro tip on where to start looking: Ryzen 7 1700.

>>61155723
> like a special mobo
It should have an M.2 slot. It also may be that M.2 won't show any improvements if chips are slow, like >>61155711 said.

>>61155790

If you want help:
>State the budget for your build (and country if not the USA).
>List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate.
>Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs?

right, now read the thread or fuck off

>>61155604
Your not helping me. All this retarded meme shilling is actually pushing me more toward amd. Which is scary cause its like reverse psychology

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>>61155815
>>>/v/

>>61155711
So basically m.2 is the better option because less space and better air circulation on account of less cables right?

>>61155815
The first line is
>Assemble your parts list

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>>61155849
>The current state of /g/.

>>61155923
I tried that.

people go : "this is shit" and nothing more.

>>61155938
The current state of /g/ is free gibs, it's the germany of this silly mongolian basketweaving forum. Free shit for lazy niggers.

>>61155974
The time and effort you spent complaining could have been used on helping someone out :3

>>61155947
With your budget you could pick up the best of the things listing on OPs post then shave off the unnecessarys. If you want to build its best to research because only you'd know what you want and don't want. If you don't want to research then just go to a computer shop and buy a pre-built. Cause that's what your essentially doing here now

>>61155947
At least bother doing some research and coming up with a list so we can help you rather than please help like a beggar.

>>61155816
Not my problem if you're too weak minded to make your own decisions. I'm not investing into Nvidia stocks or anything like that, do whatever the fuck you want.

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/

Anyone up for helping an Aussie build a PC?

Preferably $1K (AUD) range, 1080/60fps but lemme know if you think I have options on the cheaper end or if it's worth paying a bit more.

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SSD was not a lie. Everything opens so much faster.

>>61155605
1) If you went full goi with retail win10 and ms account your license will just transfer.
2) None of the cracks or activators prevented updates since early XP. Updates sometimes deactivate pirated windows but it only disables personalisation settings anyway.
Anyway, do you want to transfer windows between laptop and desktop or from hdd to ssd on each of those computers separately?

>>61156195
>Meowing
Disgusting.

>>61156195
Pick parts yourself while stating usage and we'll help to get you better parts for your usage, otherwise it would be very time consuming for us to do all of it.

>>61156249
Transfer from desktop hDD to ssd. My desktop windows actually belongs to some guy at the computer shop. But since the win10 update I'm not sure how that works now. I went full going with laptop though. But I'm actually selling that for my PC upgrades. So I won't have it. But if its linked to my ms account then hopefully that'll work out. I'd expect them to have a limit though as to how many OS's I can have

>>61156195
1. Wait for Aldi to sell their next PC
2. buy Aldi PC
It's for the best.

>>61156178
Why are you so on edgy? Do you have a gf? Or a life? I don't mean to be rude but I'm genuinely concerned for you. I can full well make decisions for myself. But sometimes I think its better to deliberate over certain issues. As to head are better then one

>>61154002
Enormous was your mother when she made you.

>>61155639
V.1.78.3 if you use 1.79.1 then the benchmarks won't count anymore.

hey, is this decent for $1400 ?

AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor

Cooler Master MasterAir Pro 4 CPU Cooler

ASRock X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 RAM 3000MHz

Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card

Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 6 ATX Mid Tower Case

Cooler Master 650W 80+ Gold Fully-Modular ATX PSU

Do you guys have something better to propose for 1500$ and less ?

Thanks.

>>61156530
yes

>>61156419
what

>>61156587
Thanks, do you recommend overclocking the 1700 ?

also is this config fine for 144hz ?

Sorry for my probably stupid questions

>>61156530
Yes that's pretty good, why so much cooler master though?
And what usage?

>>61156530
Wow. That is actually pretty cheap. Where are you getting those prices?

>>61156680
ur mom is pretty cheap

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>>61156313
>>61156195
How's this?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/8jMQQV

>>61156637

I don't really have a good enough reason to give you for the cooler master, feel free to advise something else.

And the use is a mix between gaming and multitasking I guess.

>>61156691
spotted the coin miner

you are too late, ive mined all your coins :)))

>>61156691
Massive bottleneck CPU

>>61156732
>Miner
>Buying good RAM
>Buying a case
What?

>>61156625
yes and yes

>>61156691
>$1200 dollrydoos for a pentium
fuck no

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>>61156734
>>61156758
A better alternative? Money is tight but I have some wiggle room.

Should I get an i5? If so, which one? I only game. I heard it's the gold standard for gaymen PCs.

>>61156680
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CNsF3F

>>61156691
That g4560 will bottleneck that GPU, that GPU is overpriced, high memory RAM won't benefit you since your CPU is bottlenecking you anyway, that GPU is for 1080p144hz not 60hz, that PSU is too expensive for your needs (550w around $80~ is good)
Remove CPU & motherboard, try a 1500x + cheap b350 motherboard, put much cheaper 2666MHz RAM, switch to GTX 1060 6GB or RX 580

>>61156770
what creature is this?

>>61156691
get a cheaper PSU all you need is a 500W
Get an i5 or R5 if you're going to get a 1070.
oh and get an SSD

>>61156691
>$1260
>bendium :DDD
>RAM that can't be used
>no SSD
>reference 1070
>overpriced Cucksair case
>obsolete PSU
You fucked up everything, now go and buy a prebuild before you hurt yourself.

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>>61156832
Stop bullying anons and leave this thread

>>61156691
if I were you, I'd put more money into my CPU than my GPU, especially since GPU price are so fucking retarded right now.

IMO, get the R5 1600, get a better mobo, get an SSD for boot. Get a used GPU for now, buy a good GPU later on. If you look around you can find decent deals on 970 meme cards (which aren't good cards by any stretch, but it's a lot better than paying $600 for a fucking 1070)

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>>61156798
So basically change everything? This is why I asked you guys to help. Give me a min or two.

>>61156810
My kitten from like 5 years ago. Pic related is more recent. The laziest filthiest cat. Have to give him baths regularly because he doesn't wash himself.

>>61156846
>So basically change everything?
Hard drive and case can stay.

>This is why I asked you guys to help.
And that's what we are doing. When you'll leave this thread you'll end up with good basic knowledge. Picking parts for other people is tedious anyway and i wouldn't have done it so you wouldn't have gotten any help from me if you hadn't done a part list

>>61156837
It's not bullying, it's better for him since he has no idea of what he's doing. He probably watched some vid or read some illogicalincrements trash that said G4560 + 1070 is a good combo.
Yes, you will be able to play your shit for now but enjoy your obsolete system in two years. Might as well buy a console at this point.

>>61156893
Bullying him out of the thread means he won't get the knowledge to get a good computer in the first place

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>>61156893
Mwah. Relax anon-kun.

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>>61156846
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DZbzr7

I'd do something like this. I figure use the m.2 as a boot drive so you can keep room in the case for additional storage if you need it.

>>61156846
Prices have been jacked up hey. So I advise you to wait awhile for them to come back down

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>>61156905
>>61156925
>hurr muh fhweeeeewwws durr
This is neither dumblr not plebbit.

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>>61157016
holy shit dude go be a faggot somewhere else. You don't need to be an edgy shit in a thread specifically for building advice.

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>>61157016
Be kind with other anons.

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>>61156798
How's this? Basically it seems I can go this or go for a $800-$1000 build with a much weaker b350 mobo+2666ram+1060 etc. I rather spring for the extra $600ish and get something nice over a budget build desu. Probably shouldn't have said a budget build initially. It just doesn't seem worth it for the initial cost of entry.

The 1070 looks worth it despite sticking with 1080/60fps for at least two years at high-max. I'm well aware futureproofing is impossible. But those seem to be my two build options. I also already have a 500GB SSD and OS covered.

The RAM looks to be a $10 dif from 2666 to 3200, unless you have another series you think would be a better alternative.

>>61156893
>he probably had no idea

That's why I'm here. What's it like being retarded and ignorant? What a combo.

>>61156948
As a budget build? It's missing a GPU.

>>61157051
Forgot to mention I'm not interested in overclocking, hence the non-k cpu.

>>61156757
>poverty cpu
>poverty mobo

ok!

>>61157051
As mentioned in an earlier post, get a used GPU for now, prices are fucking nuts. Or save up for a 1080Ti or something, since it seems like only the really high end shit has been untouched by mining.

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>>61157024
>>61157029
>words hurt me

>>61157051
R5 1500x + b350, not i5 + b250. i5 will bottleneck your 1070 much sooner than the 1500x will, and again 1070 is very overkill for your need. Still needs to change ram & PSU too

>>61157051
>>61157064
This is terrible. Here's a build for you :

Ryzen 5 1600 or Ryzen 7 1700 (they both come with a good cooler, don't buy a cooler)
2x8 GB RAM, minimum 2666mhz, higher is better but 2666 is still good, below that is bad for Ryzen.
Get the Gigabyte AB350 motherboard (whether ATX or mATX), it has dual BIOS so if you mess up and brick it you're not forced to send your mobo back.
You need a SSD, get a Samsung EVO 250 GB.
1 TB is not worth it, aim for 2 TB. Western Digital blue still.
Your 1070 is overpriced, aim for one at 350 bucks or so. Ganax/KFA2 for example is great and never talked about, theirs are cheap and good quality.
Case is fine.
You're overpaying for that PSU especially if you don't plan on overclocking, get a bronze or gold one from EVGA that is not over 100 bucks.

I don't know about AUS prices, so do what I just told you and we'll see how it looks like. What you did is utter shit seriously.

>>61157081
It is clear now he doesn't know what is doing.

>>61157051
>first build is G4560 + 1070 FE
>second build is i5-6600 + 1070 FE
>What's it like being retarded and ignorant?
Idk, you tell me.

>>61157051
>>61157143 (me)
1070 is probably overkill too if all you want is to play at 60-75hz. A 1060 6GB will serve you very well, hell even a 1050 Ti will serve you well for now, then you can still buy a new GPU in a year or so when things have calmed down with the miners etc.
If you're tight on budget you can also put the HDD on hold and just get the SSD for now.

Listen to me.

>>61157143
Not to be a dick, but how many times do I need to say I have I have an SSD already?

>>61157191
Holy shit, someone with actual recommendations instead of
>no don't get that
>no that sucks

Now the problem is I'm going to pick a 1060 and you're going to tell me that brand sucks or the CPU is now not a good fit. I can't work with very specific information. I need contextual information. I read some forums posts discussing GPU brands on Tom's Hardware. I'm sure people will bitch and say whatever I pick is garbage. So I'm asking you, what I should pick.

>>61157220
Honestly given your shitty attitude I regret helping you. I hope your PC doesn't even boot on start, which is probably what will happen because you're too dumb for Ryzen, fuck off piece of shit.

>>61153748
thanks

>>61157253
I picked an i5 because you or another poster told me to. Then you or another posted bitched that I picked an i5 without changing the PSU.

It's a lose-lose.

But please tell me where I'm going to find a Ganax GPU in Aus. If it doesn't bruise your eager too bad. Wait, sorry. I meant to say "please kind sir. Help this retard know nothing pick PC parts. Surely I'm not worthy! But if you could just find it in your heart to help this ignorant peasant with your massive brain and pc part picking knowledge, I would be forever in your favor. Please kind sir!"

Is that better?

>>61157220
EVGA or Asus.
1060 are overpriced imo.
But so is every card in the market at the moment.

I have AMD Radeon settings installed and was told by a friend that it keeps your video card up to date automatically but im pretty sure it doesnt. Is there a program like there is for NVidia where it will automatically check for updates on my shit?

>>61157324
Thanks. I thought ASUS was good but another posted said it was overpriced. Idk if he meant the brand or just the GPUs in general. Probably the latter I'm guessing.

I'll try to find a used one since the pricing is fucked apparently.

>>61157332
AMD radeon checks for upgrades

>>61157314
get an i5 you're being memed by these other posters dude

i5 + 1070 is best value atm, pull the trigger

>>61157355
utter bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m
i5 will bottleneck a 1070 much sooner than any R5 will

>>61157366
Dude get a clue, why do you think I posted this? Pay attention retard.

>>61157375
Just because you're being retarded on purpose doesn't mean you're not retarded still

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>>61157355
That's what my friend has but he got it before the Ryzen came out.

>>61157366
What GPU+CPU would would you recommend? The Ryzen 5 meme+1070? If so, how's pic related look? I know fuck all about mobos or cases (or really all pc parts). Thanks. I said it before but I'm covered on SSD and OS too. Anything look retarded in this build?

>>61157470
PSU is underpowered, go 550w

>>61157470
You need an i3. This thread has people paid by AMD to sell their products (like Ryzen etc). All you need is an i3, don't waste your money, but if you really want better then get an i5 7400.

>>61157506
fuck off shitposter

>>61157470
>>61157506
i5 6400 is good too

>>61157366
Who the hell should I believe then? I've seen tests where Ryzen 1600 did worse than even i5 7400 in games

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>>61157481
Better? I changed the brand but idk shit about them. I see Corsair PSUs mentioned in good terms but fuck if I know.

>>61157543
Any noticeable difference? I rather i5 Just cause I've had better luck in the distant past, but it's all anecdotal. I'd feel better doing an Nvidia+Intel than AMD+Intel but idk if it actually matters.

>>61157583
In CPU intensives games, the i5s shit the bed because they only have 4 threads. In minecraft and other games where the CPU isn't the bottleneck, the i5 will get higher framerate.

>>61157585
Need SSD, aftermarket cooler if overclocking, 1080p 144Hz or preferably 1440p monitor

>>61157640
>need SSD
Already have one

>aftermarket cooler if overclocking
Not gonna

>144Hz
Maybe. Probably in the future, like a year or two.

Thanks btw. Anything else you'd change?

>>61157681
If you're at 1080p 60Hz just get a 1060 6GB / 580 4GB

>>61157585
>mATX mobo
>ATX case
>GTX 1070 FE
>Housefire (TM) PSU by Cucksair
It's almost like you've learned nothing.

>>61157760
The 200R is fine for mATX. It supports the form factor and is only a mid-tower, not full

>>61157712
But I'll upgrade my monitor in a year or two? Wouldn't I be fucked with a 1060/580?

>>61157831
Yes you will. But 1 to 2 years is a good time to upgrade the 1060/580

>>61157815
Still overpriced and consumes more space then mATX cases.

>>61157865
It just makes me sense to me to get a 1070 and get a 144Hz monitor soonish instead. It seems far easier to upgrade the monitor than sell my CPU+GPU and buy a new CPU+GPU.

>>61154022
Absolutely yes.

As to how much you can raise it safely, most Nvidia cards in the last 5 years or so you can just go ahead and max that slider out because the BIOS has a limit you won't be able to exceed no matter what you tell it to do. For AMD, you can overvolt them so check first what the max safe voltage for your card is.

Will r5 1600 @3.7ghz bottleneck a gtx 1080 at 1080p?

I'm trying to make a windows 10 usb boot drive with media creation tool, I literally made one just the other day to fix someones laptop and trying it on couple different computers today it doesnt work. It corrupts 3 different usb drives on 2 different computers so I know its the tool.

>>61158021
yes

>>61158021
nope. i doubt it will even at 1440p@60hz

>>61158061
>>61158088

jeez

>>61158021
Absolutely. I'm bottlenecked in quite a lot of games with a 1080Ti at 1440p and a 3570K at 4.8GHz.

>>61158109
So I would need to get gtx 1070?

>>61158131
Not sure you know how bottlenecking works.All it means is you're wasting the potential of one component, it doesn't mean it'll run worse. If you can afford the 1080 still just get the 1080, though to be honest at 1080p there aren't many games right now that justify a 1080 unless you're using a high refresh rate panel.

If it were me I'd fork out the extra for a 7700K, and get a slightly shittier GPU, but I guess it depends on what the prices are like where you are. At that resolution you absolutely will be limited by your CPU, a 1080 at 1080p will spend most of it's time asleep and or/bored, it may grow to dislike you.

anyone have any advice on custom water cooling? I am getting ready to make the dive after my ryzen parts get here. I have a gigabyte rx 480 and this goddamn thing gets hot. 73-77C under full load in my corsair graphite 780T. coming from an antec 900 dropped my temps about 8 degrees. What should i be looking for in a gpu water block?

>>61158220
I already have a built system with old GPU:

r5 1600 max 3.7ghz
corsair 16gb max 2933mhz
hd 5750 (lol)

Im just trying to find a suitable gpu to buy, once this mining craze stops or vega drops in with 1070/1080 competitor.

>>61158241
>73-77C under full load
But that's absolutely normal for a GPU.

Most GPU fans aren't even at 100% until they hit 75C.

>>61158255
Get a 1060 or 1070 tops dumbass.
Unless you plan to upgrade your monitor soon to 4k

>>61158258
sweet jesus my old 7950 never got that hot even with a mild OC only around 68C for full loads and benchmarks are they all easy bake ovens now?

>>61158255
In that case you're pretty much stuck, it isn't worth losing sleep over.

If you need more GPU power, buy a better GPU. A 1080 might be overkill for 1080p gaming right now, but maybe a year down the line you'll get a 1440p display, or games will be needing more GPU power and CPU optimization will be better, who knows.

>>61155332
>>61155375
Which of these anons is right? Planning to oc my 1600 to 3.9-4.0. The U12s looks good in a lot of testing, but I see it getting up into the 70's sometimes and I'd like to avoid throttling.

>>61158328
Ok, I'll wait for vega to see benchmarks and prices and then shoot for 1070/1080 performance levels.

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>>61158258
>mfw my gpus only hits 52 degrees when running furmark
My room dos get fucking hot though

>>61157910
By the time you buy the monitor, you'll want a better GPU. Can't future proof GPU at all. Don't buy a 1440p GPU until you need it

>>61158021
Sometimes, not often. Mostly not when it matters. And even the i7 7700K will bottleneck it sometimes when the R5 1600 wouldn't. Only reason to consider 7700K is with a 144Hz monitor

>>61158131
Definitely a 1070 for 1080p.. if not 1060 6GB

Should I get or wait for a dual fan?

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-06G-P4-6161-KR/dp/B01IPVSGEC/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1498842044&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+1060

>>61158529
Probably just get. They draw like, what, 120W max? It doesn't really need a fuckhuge cooler.

>>61158529
Bruh, isn't that sold out?

Is NZXT S340 Elite worth the extra price or should I just go with the regular one?

I was assembling my new computer, and a drop of sweat ran off my forehead and down into the CPU socket. How fucked am I?

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>>61157016
Who hurt you anon-kun!? Its okay! I won't leave you...

>>61158635
It wasn't a second ago. Closed mouth doesn't get fed I guess.

>>61158851
if you want the extra accessories then go for it i ordered one got it and sent it back the build quality felt poor for how much i paid for it. The glass is nice the accessories are nice good airflow but fuck that shity IO ports and the top of the case fitment was poor definately felt more like a $40 case and not a $140 case.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ztn4TH

What should I change? I want to buy a family member a computer.

>>61157583
You also mentioned multitasking before hand so RX 1600 would be better than that. Its also expected that some games in the future will be using multiple cores so ryzen will outperform Intel in that always. The fps problem with ryzen is purely poor optimisation. But that's not even a huge difference. Personally I'm going with ryzen 5 1600 because great price for value

Thoughts on this monitor

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00UAMYTR8/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Is BenQ a good brand for monitors?

>>61159011
Objectively nothing wrong but i'd go with this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YrGzr7
G4600 is only $5 more expensive but offers 100MHz more and upgraded iGPU which is nice since you won't have a dedicated GPU.
Mobo is cheaper and imo better. RAM doesn't really matter but since G4600 natively supports 2400 i'd go with it.
Added a small SSD for OS and maybe 1-2 programms. The 50-60 bucks are worth it, you don't want to have your OS on a HDD in 2017.
The Roswill case doesn't look as disgusting and has two fans instead of one for the same price.
The rest if fine, both builds are fine, the choice is yours.

>>61159200
What are you using them for? Have you looked into Qnix or other Korean 1440p monitors?

I imported two 27" ones for around that price a few years ago, they do 110Hz no problem and look top tier.

If you're using them for photo editing or other stuff where colour accuracy actually matters then ignore me. BenQ are usually pretty fine though, most monitors don't actually use a panel made by the manufacturer they are being sold by.

>>61159200
https://www.productchart.com/monitors/
Use this to pick your monitor

>Get new parts for my new pc
>all parts come
>hype time to assemble
>didnt buy fans because thought i willad the ones from my old pc
>open case when the pc is running to see which one are working
>not even use
>Fuck

What to do bros. Are two fans enough for a high end machine? The case is a nzxt s340. Is the air flow decent without 5000 fans in it
>

>>61159233
Oh, I thought you'd notice from all the .ca websites, that's a Canadian build. G4600 is like, $120 here.

>>61159415
Your link was set to US so i assumed you're from US, idk about the shops over there, i'm from EU.
>120 for G4600
I smell semites in action. Get the G4560 then.

>>61159393
Of course it will run. Just assemble it and then order more fans.

>>61159459
>link was set to US
My fuck up then, I had it set to Canada but must have closed the tab

>>61159526
why do you have a trip

what's a good cooler for the 1700x?

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>>61159933
>zero day drivers
>wow on patchday
>water is wet
Wow.. it's nothing.

Anyways, should i wait for Vega RX or buy a 1070 for 360€? It's "used" but guy says seal is not broken, if he provides picks of the seal and invoice and everything looks fine, should i buy the 1070 or wait(TM)?

>>61159997
Vega RX should be out soon, I'd just wait.

>2.4x the die size of Polaris 10
>1.6x the performance

Vega is a cataclysmic disaster.

>>61153748
Just got Zotac GTX 1080 AMP EXTREME(1771mhz base clock)
just 50 bucks more than the prices of mid-tier gtx 1080s(1650-1700 base clocks).
Think it will get bottlenecked from my r5 1600 oc'd to 3.9ghz and 3200mhz cas 16 ram?

2014+3 >>>/g/ - still viral marketing for consumer grade gear

>>61159011
Get 2400MHz RAM + a 120GB SSD and build on mITX form factor

>>61159011
At a budget level like this (and considering you're not gaming or looking to upgrade in the future) you're probably better off buying a premade from a volume distributor like Dell, Lenovo, ASUS, etc.

>>61160117
Depends on the game, your resolution, and graphics quality settings, obviously.

Why are 2GB R9 380 prices so inflated on used market too? I thought 2GB VRAM was useless for mining?

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>>61160399
All used cards went up in price because people can't buy new. Gtx 970s are going for 180 - 200 currently.

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>>61160444

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>>61156732
>>61156757
Speaking of mining may I get a pcpartpicker list for a mining rig? Where I live at now I don't pay electricity so I'm trying to make the most of it.

>>61156837
>That pic
I feel it, construction is killing my back and my free time.

>>61160530
it fits well in the case everything is era correct except gpu

>no guides for HTPC, NAS, or home network servers
I bet no one here can even tell the difference between an SFF-8087 and a SATA cable.

>>61160563
Is it meant to be that way? Did you bend it?

>>61159997
You should be able to get a new one for cheaper. Just wait for vega

>>61160576
its designed that way scythe katana or something

>>61160570
what's a sata cable?

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I have a gtx 1080 ti, should I get a new cpu? pic related

>go to download GeForce Experience
>"please use a desktop browser to download this"
Holy FUCK. The program that actually installs your GPU driver is making absolutely sure that you can't install it unless it's over a certain resolution. Plus you need to log in to download drivers from it. I fucking HATE this program so much, but there's no way the person I'm doing this for would know how to install drivers otherwise.

>>61160599
overclock this one instead

>>61160570
I would appreciate having guides focused on something other than gaming PCs, but almost nobody here seems interested.

I plan to build my rig in september, what do you think the market will be like by then?
Will vega be out? Will nvidia prices go down?

>>61160581
>You should be able to get a new one for cheaper
What's the dimension called you're from? GTX1070 start at 450€ excl. shipping and that's the entry versions.
https://geizhals.de/?cat=gra16_512&xf=9810_7+5783+-+GTX+1070&asuch=&bpmax=&v=k&hloc=de&plz=&dist=&mail=&sort=p&bl1_id=30

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>>61160073
>Durr why cant pro hardwar do muh gaymen

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>>61160598

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>>61160533
Cheapest CPU you can get
Cheapest mobo you can get that has at least 6-8 PCIe slots
Cheapest SSD with at least 64 GB of space
4GB of the cheapest RAM you can get that works with your mobo
6-8 PCIe risers, not the ribbon ones
2 800-1000W PSUs OR 1 1600-1800W PSU
6-8 GPUs that you can get (RX470/80, RX570/80, GTX 1060/70, etc.) preferably the same team (e.g. all AMD) but not required. It just makes the scripts and tweaking a little easier. For AMD cards you'll probably want custom ROMs to flash for better mining performance so dual BIOS cards are nice to have.
Windows 10 or linux if you like fucking with shitty driver support
Some kind of frame or harness to put everything into

>>61160602
What?

>>61160736
You have to break into the PC store near your area.

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>>61160792
Forgot, you'll probably want some kind of wireless dongle. Should be USB and have decent signal strength wherever you're going to put the rig.

It's also nice to have a power button/switch attached to the mobo headers to make it easier to turn on/off/reset. Some mobos will have a switch on the board so you could just use that.

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so dusty, still 100% functional

>>61160792
Sauce.

>>61160599
In a similar boat to you, I decided to wait until the Ryzen revision and to see if Intel will actually get their shit together. If not I'll make my first AMD build since 2005.

In the meantime, I delidded my CPU and just OC'd it to hell.

Acquired a AM3+ 760G Chipset Motherboard

I need a CPU for it that has good single threaded performance for a Java Application, another single threaded DX9 application, and a Command-Line Linux Distro VM that runs 24/7 all at the same time.

Absolutely nothing ventured past that.

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>>61160792
>>61160841
Thanks friend.

>>61158877
I'd wipe it off with a dry papertowel and let it air dry for a day, just to be safe.

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>>61160847

>>61160736
http://m.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1070-SC-GAMING-ACX-3-0-8GB-GDDR5-/272740073232?_trkparms=aid%253D222007%2526algo%253DSIC.MBE%2526ao%253D1%2526asc%253D20150519202348%2526meid%253D552ad6081a5a4777bfef5001efef8310%2526pid%253D100408%2526rk%253D2%2526rkt%253D21%2526sd%253D172745585519&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460
Patience's...

>>61160896
thats dust from 3 different states btw

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>>61160807
For some reason, it won't let you download GeForce Experience unless you're on a desktop. Well, like most websites, it assumes if you're on a desktop or mobile by the resolution. So often if you don't have drivers installed, you're stuck in a lower resolution until they're installed, or if you fuck with the settings. It's the last thing in the world that should be picky about if you're on a god damn desktop or not if it's going to judge by the resolution.

>>61160946
si

>>61160946
yeah but it should be fine, except for cleaning it afterwards

>>61160946
it doesn't even matter. take a shit on it and it'd work fine.

>>61160866
A quad-core piledriver CPU from eBay?

>>61160946
>silicon trash
>not liquid metal master race
commit suicide senpai

>>61160677
if current trends follow AMD, Nvidia, and Intel are going to light the market on fire. :^)

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>>61160871
One more note, if you use 2 PSUs it is helpful to use an adapter to link the two mobo headers partially together. This will allow them to turn on simultaneously. You'll also want to ensure that the power to the PCIe riser and to the card come from the SAME PSU otherwise you may cause ground arcs and fry your shit.

I also recommend no more than 2 connected SATA power connections per cable from the PSU. They simply cannot reliably handle 3 or 4 unless they're particularly low gauge. If your risers use PCIe 6-pin then you should be fine. If they're molex make sure your SATA adapters are not the molded over kind that cause housefires.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TataDaUNEFc

NEW THREAD
>>61161007
>>61161007
>>61161007

move when needed

>>61161051
>amd shitter making the thread so he can remove best processor
noty

>>61161059
do NOT mention int*l here again

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>>61160946
Just spread it out.

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>>61160963
>>61160964
How is it now?
>>61160964
This is what I'm trying to avoid mostly.

Actual thread with slight changes made to it:

>>61161093
>>61161093
>>61161093

Wanted to post it at bump limit but that other faggot sure love thread wars does he? Even though he doesn't contribute to anything.

>>61161083
Yeah, that's good. I'd personally have added slightly more but it's not like there's any difference.

>>61160533
What happens if who ever your smooching off of asks you to chip in on the bill?
>>61160792
>>61160841
>>61161003

Who's the doll?

>>61161083
a little more than id put on but its good

>>61160957
Wow what a flaw. Usually GPUs come with a driver disc anyways. What happened? Also no igpu?

>>61161154
environmentally friendly means cheaping out on stuff like discs

>>61161140
>>61161126
Thank you based anons. added just a little more as you guys said to be sure.

>>61161101
that thread was second so fuck off with your threadwars

>>61161007
>>61161007
>>61161007

>>61161230
>i created my garbage thread first, because i did it before we even reached the bump limit, therefore it stays!
No, fuck off.
>>61161093
>>61161093
>>61161093

>>61161177
Oy vey... Think of the trees! Goyim

>>61161245
that thread was second so fuck off with your threadwars

>>61161007
>>61161007
>>61161007

>>61161359
Guess which thread doesn't have shilling, shitposting and is actually focused on helping people?
>>61161093
>>61161093
>>61161093

Just a tip for ya: you don't kickstart a thread by posting your fucking wojak shitposts into it, you instead help people coming in them and discuss seriously with the people in there. You can create a thread 5, seven or fucking 10 minutes earlier if you want, people will go into the thread where people are putting their effort in and certainly not the thread where you dump your shitposting images

>>61161483
go back to r/intel you fucking obvious shill

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>>61161133 (checked)
>What happens if who ever your smooching off of asks you to chip in on the bill?
I live in the ghetto near the beach, in my complex no one has to pay electricity for some reason. These are houses that are rebuilt after hurricane sandy so I guess they figured free electricity would get people back in the aera.

Their loss is my gain.