/wt/ - Watch Thread

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What are you wearing today, /wt/?

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What are some cheaper examples of watches with dual smaller dials like in the pic related...?

>>61145998
Nice Air King, I mean Sky Dweller, I mean Datejust, I mean Day Date, I mean Oyster Perpetal, I mean Explorer.

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>>61146032
They put 5 lines of text on the dial just in case you forget what model it is. Recent models also have the word Rolex engraved like 100 times too in case you forget the brand.

does /g/ approve this chinksite?
https://puretime03.com/

>>61146211
>$300 up to $500 for a fake fucking watch
I won't stop you, but I will laugh at you. You could buy an actual decent watch for that money.

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>>61145998
my dad's old Explorer II. I really need to go get it cleaned/serviced one of these days

>>61146004
that watch looks sad :(

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>>61145998

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>riding the metro home
>business guy in a suit looks exhausted, flat out asleep on a seat
>wearing what appeared to be a PP Nautilus

Should I have bashed his head in, gone for the watch and run away?

Would it make me a bad person?

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>>61145998

The Metro

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>>61145953
snzh 55.

what strap would be good? was looking at a cordura.

>be me
>recent trip to Italy
>park car in the middle of the day in a parking lot packed with other cars
>come back less than 2 hours later
>smashed window, car emptied out
>luggage for a week long trip also gone, including my favorite watch
>file claim with insurance, watch was a gift and I didn't know it was worth 300 dollars

Now I have 300 dollars and I'm down a watch, any suggestions? I'm a fan of silver watches with leather bands

>>61146004

That watch looks incredible, reference?

I'm looking for something black with a thinner bezel and a metal band with a second hand for work, something $200 or less, analogue or digital is fine. I have babby wrists. Been looking at Braun watches, but I want to know what /g/ thinks.

Conversely a nice pocket watch would be cool.

I am thinking of doing something nutty guys. A brand new Rolex Submariner is $6800 if you shop around.

Parts for the new rolex are nearly unfindable, I have seen the following parts sell for:

bracelet $2200
case $2500 (with crystal, without crown)
dial $400
movement $3000
box/docs $200

That's $8600

I would make about $1200 after ebay fees

If I do this 6 times I can have basically a free submariner just for my trouble on ebay

I have enough paypal credit to do it, I would make a video of me unboxing the watch and show the serial number so everyone would know they were getting brand new unused parts, i might even get a little more than i listed if I do that.

what do you think?

>>61147350
Sounds like a hell of a hassle, and you're assuming you'll sell the parts at the price you expect, or in a timely manner.

>>61147350
>>61147367
I agree, but I'd also like to add that that's a pretty big investment for no assurances. Maybe you'd score big, or maybe you'd be 9k in the hole. Do you have the finances to make that gamble?

>>61147367
I sell shit on ebay all the time, I have hundreds of transactions.

breaking the watch down to 5-7 main parts and selling them is no big deal to me. The prices seem pretty consistent for these parts and most people are selling the parts slightly used, I would be selling them all matching from one watch with the protective film still on them and the SN documented

>>61147388
>maybe you'd be 9k in the hole. Do you have the finances to make that gamble?

I have researched this enough to know the worst that would happen is I would break even or lose very small.

The bracelet and movement are sure things. And the case is nearly a sure thing at that price

there is no way I could lose ALL my money, it's brand new rolex parts, they have value

>>61147451
Then go on ahead, I wish you the best of luck. You clearly know what you're doing, so don't let a rando like me stop you

So I have 6k for a watch. What's the best options?

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>>61147510
Snow Frake. Be sure to get the new version.

>>61147529
serious options only

>>61147541
Yes, that was a serious option. Were you just expecting to hear "ROLEX, PHUCKA"?

>>61147484
>Then go on ahead, I wish you the best of luck. You clearly know what you're doing, so don't let a rando like me stop you

I am open to opinions about this and criticism. There may be something I have not thought of, however I don't see how I could lose 100% of my money

>>61147550
was thinking breitling, omega, tag heuer and what not

>>61147570
Both rolex and grand seiko would be better choices than anything from those makers.

>>61147570
ahahahahaHAHAHAH

>>61147588
>grand seiko
I have too many seikos and don't like rolex

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>>61146087
I will never get why they put ROLEX ROLEX ROLEX ROLEX ROLEX ROLEX on the fucking watch, like what were they thinking jesus

>>61147607
Look at one of the in house tudors then.

>>61147008
Looks good, but why are you wearing it on your hand?

>>61147622
Anti-counterfeiting measure.

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>>61147570
>breitling
>tag heuer

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>>61147622
Shit up your nice expensive watch just so it's harder for Chinese people to copy it. The logic is flawless.

>>61147644
what do you wear? Timex?

>>61147529
I actually hate the new version; I'd prefer it a lot more if the GS was on the bottom so the spring drive text and power reserve didn't look so lonely.

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>>61147654
I'm wearing an Omega shitter, fight me

>>61147752
pics then

>watch no longer fits wrist
>still have the extra accessories to make it bigger
How do I adjust the size for my MK6247?

>>61147763
By throwing it in the dumpster where it belongs and getting a real watch.

>>61147625
>but why are you wearing it on your hand
as opposed to?

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Does leaving a watch in the sun for a long period of time give it patina? Also does sliver dial even age? i don't see any sliver dial that have patina

>>61147774
Your wrist.

>>61147769
>real watch
A watch only serves one purpose though, so why would I need a new one?

>>61147777
nice

idk. thats the way it naturally falls on my hand. i also prefer it to be more towards the hand rather the wrist to stop it from moving around.

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>>61147541
>>61147570

>>61147876
didn't there used to be a pastebin?

>>61146004
Seagull 1963

>>61146977
What strap width did you use for the metro? Also, what spring bar size did you use?

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So I went with my girlfriend to the local Hudson's Bay in London, Canadia buy a gift for her relative in China. We picked up this Timex Weekender chrono from the clearance section for $59 Canadabux ($45 USD). For the money it's a really nice watch- the finishing is much better than I expected, superior to Chinese mechanicals costing twice as much, and I forgot how handy Indiglo is. Superluminova ain't got shit on this. I'm thinking of picking one of these up off Amazon or something for myself, maybe with the blue face. It really seems to punch above its weight, and I am sort of searching for another honest working watch after my Komandirskie started acting up. It's not too loud either, despite all the noise people make about the Weekender TICK TICK TICK.

What are the best casual wear, under 200 dollar watches?

>>61148470
gshock

>>61146957
it would make you a nigger

>>61147041
you got refugee'd
take a loot at orient star classic

>>61148333
>TICK TICK TICK

only the non-chronograph modules have this issue, the chronos do not have loud ticking so if that bothers you, be sure to get the chrono

>>61148333
I bought a 3-hand Weekender when I first started university in 2012. At the time I didn't even know it was a "thing" because I didn't know shit about watches, they just happened to be cheap and in stock at Walmart the week before I left. I hadn't worn a watch before that and was told you should have them for exams.

The ticking is fucking maddening. You could hear it everywhere, in your dorm room, in class, in an exam. But once my battery died the day before an exam and I had to borrow a friend's watch, he had the chronograph version of mine. I realized it was a lot quieter and found out later it's actually because the movement is built differently.

tl;dr the Weekender tick is real, but doesn't affect the Chronograph models.

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>>61148333
>Living in the same city as fucking Al Archer
>Not collecting vintage Omegas
Fucking plebs man, I swear.

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>>61145998

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Picked up one of these for 35 bucks.

Was looking for a really water resistant watch for the beach and work (waiter on weekends). I hate wearing anything nice to either place. Just stresses me out, and this shit is so cheap I can beat the crap out of it and not care.

Hope it looks decent enough in person. Might change the band though. Something metal?

>>61146004
How cheap are we talking?

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>>61145998
please no bully.

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>>61147067
It's the CAR221A, I personally prefer the CS3113

>>61149396
I won't bully if you take a wrist shot

>>61149386
That Longines is pretty neat, I'm a sucker for integrated bracelets. What's that women's watch, does that thing in the middle spin around?

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>>61149447
It is pretty nice.

>>61149251
clean your shirt, thats disgusting

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>>61149459
Yes. It is a borel cocktail watch. The two red hands show hours and minutes and there are two discs in the middle, one fixed and one running seconds.

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>>61145998

>>61149545
Neat. 1940s?

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>>61149299

Looks pretty good in real life, bought this for a relative who was looking for something reliable. Was impressed by the decent build quality and bezel.

>>61149598
Yep, Landeron cal. 48.

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>>61145998
Alpinist on a Phoenix strap

does anyone have any idea where I go to find a discontinued Seiko at retail. I know there are some Japanese sellers you can email and they find the model you're looking for that have never sold. I can but it on eBay but I don't wanna pay 300 extra because it was discontinued

>>61149618
Guessing you don't have a wrist shot. Looks pretty big.

>>61149733
That's ugly as fuck m8.
It only looks good with leather.

>>61149511
I am 94 years old and have lived my whole life as a sub in a bsdm twink in a san Francisco fetish community I filmed 4 hours of man on man BSDM anal prolapse sex today.

but that watch is the gayest thing I have ever seen in my life

>>61145998
I think your post mades me want to save up a bit more and get a subby.

>>61149904
no, you're ugly as fuck m8.

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>>61149890

I did try it on to see how it'd fit with my 7-3/4" wrists

>>61150050
Oh, nice. Thanks anon.
Looks pretty fine. Just WAY bigger than I'm used to. I mostly wear vintage.

how do you put a nato strap on an F91w

i cant figure it out

>>61150107
pretty sure you need to buy an adapter

>>61150084
Exactly, I only wear divers on rare occasions, usually opting for a vintage omega, chrono, or tank watch

>>61150107
You just have to buy a thin NATO

>>61144915
>>61144863

>it's an abomination to make a gold moon watch

Not necessarily so. Gold is an excellent IR reflector and will protect from overheating in space where you have zero convention. In fact gold foils were used for that on the moon landing vessel.

Instead the real question is: why on earth was the face of the moon watch black? With 1.4 kW/sqm irradiation and no cooling that would cause rapid heating.

The later Alaska designs with white face makes much more sense.

>>61147350

Sweet you should do this with different colors but keep specific parts back and basically build a rolex from different parts and have a unique franken fucking rolex.

nobody wears a watch anymore

Belongs in /fa/

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>>61145953
>>>/fa/

It's about time. And I'm saying this as a fair regular to this board. It's just not tech.

>>61150606
>Not necessarily so. Gold is an excellent IR reflector and will protect from overheating in space where you have zero convention.
Not worn on the outside of the air conditioned space suite numbnuts

also ozs counted for the moon walkers and wearing a weaker metal that weighs a lot more was not going to fly.

The faces were black because they were small and just did not get that hot. Sold gold watches are for men trying to pick up other men

not for chronographs from the 60s that got us to the moon with superior stainless steel

>>61150628
>nobody wears a watch anymore
yes I do, i wear it so i can look at my arm and see what time it is exactly.

or if you have a mechanical "to see approximately what time it might be give or take"

>>61150620
>Sweet you should do this with different colors but keep specific parts back and basically build a rolex from different parts and have a unique franken fucking rolex.

I was thinking of doing everything "buy it now" and raising the price a bit on the items I don't have yet, and putting it together that way when parts don't sell

i think it would be fun

Rolex the company are assholes and wont sell regular people things like bracelets and hands

>>61150732
Yeah because they don't want dumbshits trying to change the hands themselves and then whine when they inevitably fuck it up

>>61150708
To bad most of the time, this thread doesn't actually talk about the time-keeping aspect of watches; just the aesthetics of it.

That's why it's /fa/

>>61150759

I think requiring you to pay someone in the rolex supply chain $400 to check your gaskets and change your hands might have something to do with

if you send your rolex to rolex and it has fake hands on it the won't ship the hands back to you, rolex parts only

and they wont sell parts to the public

>>61150760
>To bad most of the time, this thread doesn't actually talk about the time-keeping aspect of watches; just the aesthetics of it.
it varies a lot, some days its post all day of "does this shitter look good" and some days there are good discussion of movements and watch history

i have learned a lot here

>>61150794
You give too much credit. It's mostly the former than the latter. And, either way, watch history is hardly about tech either.

>>61150813
>You give too much credit. It's mostly the former than the latter. And, either way, watch history is hardly about tech either.

no it's not, any fool can replace the movement on a rolex.

Rolex wont let you buy fucking aftermarket BRACELETS

do you think you could figure out how to put a bracelet on a watch anon

regardless rolex has driven the prices of their parts to the moon and their watches are worth more in pieces than assembled

a rolex is 1950s tech, you can unscrew the back without shorting it out or giving it a virus

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>>61150813
>You give too much credit. It's mostly the former than the latter. And, either way, watch history is hardly about tech either.
oh watch history is not about tech

fascinating

you have to use this board as a jumping off point, some fag posts a bit about an obscure watch and you need to go look it up further and do research, you won't be spoon fed here

>>61150883
>oh watch history is not about tech

Yes, when most of the time people are talking about which models were released when.

>>61150905
>Yes, when most of the time people are talking about which models were released when.
that's called the progress of tech

>>61150783

Yes, for exactly the same reasons I stated earlier. Rolex knows how big it's used and vintage market is and wants to protect their brand from people putting shitty fake parts on their watches or letting some dingus fuck up the movement, hands or dial.

Most people who are Rolex collectors will invariably know a local watch maker who can service and source real parts without rolex's insane prices. It's the same with omega

>>61150837
Actually if you unscrew the back and you get micro particles in the movement, dust or accidentally grind some metal while taking off the caseback that can get into the movement and get stuck between gears or even slosh around with the mainspring and fuck it up. Yes it's 1950s tech but it's insanely delicate and not just any dipshit with a case back screw can service them

>>61150988
>Yes, for exactly the same reasons I stated earlier. Rolex knows how big it's used and vintage market is and wants to protect their brand from people putting shitty fake parts on their watches or letting some dingus fuck up the movement, hands or dial.

What they want to do is prevent you from buying genuine Rolex parts. Which is why they don't sell them.

If anything a total lack of real rolex parts out there makes people resort to knock off generic parts.

>>61150988
>Most people who are Rolex collectors will invariably know a local watch maker who can service and source real parts without rolex's insane prices.

That has gotten tougher and tougher in just the last 5 years. The grey market for new unused Rolex parts is all but dried up.

Get on google and try to buy a 2016 complete Rolex movement, or a bracelet

dials crop up but not empty new cases.

if you damage your rolex bracelet you have to take it to a certified repairman and he will log your SN, take your old bracelet and send it back to rolex for destruction, and charge you $2000 for installing a bracelet

they won't even give you your worn parts back because they don't want links out there at god forbid reasonable prices

Oh and if your serial number comes in too many times for missing parts (such as bezels) or replacement parts they will ban you from further service

not even kidding

>>61151042
>Actually if you unscrew the back and you get micro particles in the movement, dust or accidentally grind some metal while taking off the caseback that can get into the movement and get stuck between gears or even slosh around with the mainspring and fuck it up. Yes it's 1950s tech but it's insanely delicate and not just any dipshit with a case back screw can service them

actually any dipshit can, not sure what kind of shit material and tolerances you think a rolex has but unscrewing the cashback will not ruin the movement in a violent shower of iron filings.

do you think if you trained hard enough you could replace a bracelet?

>>61151092
>if you damage your rolex bracelet you have to take it to a certified repairman and he will log your SN, take your old bracelet and send it back to rolex for destruction, and charge you $2000 for installing a bracelet
>they won't even give you your worn parts back because they don't want links out there at god forbid reasonable prices
>Oh and if your serial number comes in too many times for missing parts (such as bezels) or replacement parts they will ban you from further service
>not even kidding

if true that is some outlandish shit

>>61151117
I'm obviously not referring to replacing a bracelet, however I have seen some particularly thick people scratch their case while trying to do it themselves.

The corralling of authentic NOS parts can also be attributed to Rolex not wanting the wrong Model number parts getting mixed up into the wrong watch or some jackass making a franken Rolex and trying to sell it off as a fully original piece. Also trust me, I've seen horror stories of people getting their watches serviced by hacks that completely fuck up their watch because they were going to get a sweet deal. You can argue that all you want but it does happen. Frequently.

>>61151186
>I'm obviously not referring to replacing a bracelet, however I have seen some particularly thick people scratch their case while trying to do it themselves.

just because someone might do something wrong is no reason to not let anyone on earth buy parts for their watch.

I guess autozone should not sell wrenches because someone might use the wrong size and strip a bolt

Rolex literally will only sell you a part if they destroy the one they took off, that's fucked up

They could just do like every other manufacuter and say "if you try to work on this yourself and break it you just voided the warranty" that's worked for car makers for 70 years

the reason rolex does this is so you have to buy your parts from them

$2200 for a mass produced stainless steel bracelet is evidence of their success

this is what ironically drives the generic rolex parts industry, some fag just spent $9000 on awatch and now they want 2k for a bracelet? so he goes and buys one on ebay for 100bucks

>>61151229
>Rolex literally will only sell you a part if they destroy
unless they destroy

>>61151229

Is it fucked up though? In case you're not aware, one major facet of Rolex is that they are solid investment watches that generally hold their value much better than any other watch in the sub 10k region. Not only that but many vintage Rolex's are worth 30-40k or more and this appreciation of value is something Rolex knows they have and they have it because when you buy a vintage redsub for 40k you can actually know if it's a frankenwatch by gefting it checked at a Rolex dealer. This confidence in originality is a major component of why Rolex is so collectible and valuable today, and what leads people to believe that their rolex's will appreciate in value in a few decades.

>>61151458
What you don't understand is the confidence in originality has been shot by the fact there are no good distribution paths for genuiin parts. That's what damn rotor is $500

The chinks have been perfecting all these little parts and since rolex won't sell them through dealers or package them in a hard to counterfeit way the only way to get the parts is via the grey market. Even professionals can't tell the chink parts from the rolly parts and that has led to an influx of unoriginal parts that was unheard of 20 years ago. Back then you could get a fake movement but not well machined gears and springs to fake a movement.

They are collectible and valuable today because of james bond movies and they were always rare the prices of those watches has nothing to do with reality. They are like a gullwing Mercedes, just rare.

When you can take off the bracelet, pulle the movement, sell the case and dial seperately and make $2000 something is wrong.

The thing is the bracelets of the last few years are shit tons better than the old ones, so (contrary to what you are saying) guys with old rolexes want the new bracelets but they literally are not allowed to buy them, so guys buy a rolly sub, put a nato on it and sell the bracelet and get $2200 off a watch.

Literally and without exaggeration the only reason the bracelets are that price is rolex wont sell them and people want them for their old rollys

and on a side note the bracelets from 20 years ago on subbys were kind of shitty

>>61151569
Yes but let's say they got the new bracelet from Rolex and lost the other, now their watch has significantly decreased in value. Do you think that it's a coincidence that the two biggest brands for value retention (Rolex and Patek) are some of the only brands that have such stringent part policies?

>>61151569
Also I'm assuming you're the guy who wants to buy 6 subs, take them apart and sell the parts for profit. If not disregard. Have you considered that if this actually worked that you wouldn't be the first guy who figured it out? Like if this was a genuine thing you could pull off without a hitch don't you think the market would be flooded with Genuine Rolex parts from all the other geniuses who figured this out and we currently wouldn't have the Rolex part drought that we currently have?

>>61150698
>Not worn on the outside of the air conditioned space suite numbnuts
Elsewhere (Hodinkee and Fratello) states the Speedmasters were the only ones for EVA.

>also ozs counted for the moon walkers and wearing a weaker metal that weighs a lot more was not going to fly.
Plating is enough to obtain the effect.

>The faces were black because they were small and just did not get that hot.
Makes no sense.

>Sold gold watches are for men trying to pick up other men
On this topic I will defer to your superior insight.

>>61151677
>Yes but let's say they got the new bracelet from Rolex and lost the other, now their watch has significantly decreased in value. Do you think that it's a coincidence that the two biggest brands for value retention (Rolex and Patek) are some of the only brands that have such stringent part policies?

It's mainly just hapenstance when one of those very old rollys turns up all original and in good condition.

It's like a matching numbers 65 corvette, most people drove those cars hard and wore the engines out over the years, if you can find one in good condition it's worth a fortune and even one in bad condition is worth some money because not many were made and people did not know it would turn out to be an iconic car

Rare and early subbys that got put in a drawer and survived are rare and expensive.

Back then rollex did not give a fuck about this, if you sen't them a watch for repair they would just slap it back together as best they could, they were $180 tool watches. They built a name for themselves and now are cashing in

people have always modified rolexes.

yes of course their parts policy has kept the price up, they are charging thousands of dollars for simple parts that cost a small fraction of that. It's called price gouging.

What they have not done is innovated to such a degree that a stainless bracelet is a $2200 breakthrough, it's just scarcity.

If you have a fully functional 5 year old older style subby bracelet and you want a new one you send it to rolex and they destroy your old one and charge you full price for a new one. It' has everything to do with keeping the illusion of artificial scarcity and nothing to do with "their love for fine watch making" they are happy to help you make a non original watch if you let them destroy all the original period parts

>>61151924
Go back to re ddit

>>61151761
>Have you considered that if this actually worked that you wouldn't be the first guy who figured it out? Like if this was a genuine thing you could pull off without a hitch don't you think the market would be flooded with Genuine Rolex parts from all the other geniuses who figured this out and we currently wouldn't have the Rolex part drought that we currently have?

Explain to me why it won't work then.

My assumption is they have a deal with ebay that nobody is allowed to sell substantial new parts (movements, cases) and ebay will ban yo for trying

the math and logic is solid though

In other words "if you let people sell newly harvested rolex parts well will ban you from selling all rolexes"

a lot of non obvious shady shit goes on like that on ebay

or mabye there is an end user license agreement when you buy a submariner saying you can't do that or they will sue you

these are the most likely reasons nobody does it I can think of

maybe if I did one real slow a part at a time they would not catch me

explain to me the flaw in my logic?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-x-Rolex-97200-Oyster-Glidelock-Submariner-116610-114060-116710-Bracelet-20mm-/232310959233?hash=item3616cfec81%3Ag&nma=true&si=7D2Od%252FSdlO1CCgyOJ0pGwCJ1ERM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

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>>61150698
>Not worn on the outside of the air conditioned space suite numbnuts

Yes he did, he has said so many times. Here is a photo of the watch on the outside of his suite on the moon

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>>61150698
>>61151830
And here is an apollo 11 speedy with the big ass strap to fit around the space suite

you are simply wrong, ask buzz

>>61152055
>>61152076
DELETE THIS

>>61147632
The stupid thing is that every chink fake has it now.

>>61152134
Yea. You can still tell the difference if you look close enough.

>>61152134
The only good anti counterfeiting measure is a record with rolex of who bought the watch and when by SN updated with rolex every time the watch is sold

Are solar watches good? How long before I need to have the battery replaced?

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>>61152245
>Are solar watches good? How long before I need to have the battery replaced?
They are fucking magic man. If you don't abuse them they will last 15-20 years-they notify you when the charge is low, place the watch face up on a window sill for awhile and you are good for 10 more months, just from casual use mine has never lost charge

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>>61145998
Seiko 5Actus, 7019 movement, 1975, Daini, JDM, original bracelet. Done restoring it two days ago, bretty gud so far.

>>61152376

Why is there a red stripe on the crown?

>>61152376
>If you don't abuse them they will last 15-20 years-

The watch or just the battery?

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>>61152245
Solar is pretty much the shit, until they come out with a watch that goes 50 years without any service it will be the gold standard

>>61152450
mainly the battery, you don't want to constantly charge it up all the way then put it in a dark drawer for 5 months, that's bad for capacity

the watch will take anything an ISO diver can

all i do to take care of mine is leave it face up on the window sill every now and then when I am not wearing it, and by every now and then I mean like every 2 months for a few hours

>>61152472
I see. Thanks.

>>61152457
Sorry, forgot to ask >>61152484

Which are the best solar lines? I don't like the styling of Seikos.

>>61152487
>Which are the best solar lines? I don't like the styling of Seikos.

Citizen ecodrive, casio waveceptor, and seiko solar, there are many styles of seiko

also solar gshock

ecodrive may be the best from a technical point of view, but not by much

>>61150107
Just buy a 18mm wide nato strap and watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srixe4IZWCk

>>61152617
thanks

i hate the way nato straps stick the end of the strap up and out so you see it when looking down at the watch, they all seem to do that though

Crossposting from /adv/ since this is very related

I completed my apprenticeship last week and started working so now I want to spend my first real check on my parents and closest friends.

I dont really know what to give to my father, i dont like courses or adventure holiday type stuff so thats pretty much out of question. Ive been thinking about buying him a watch but im not looking to spend more than 200 yurobucks, any recommendations or tips? Currently im looking at stuff like armani or tommy hilfiger but feel like there are better quality options and you would maybe know

Preferably even ~90-120€

>>61152894
Watches are not really entry-level gifts.

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From left to right:
SKX007, Landmaster SBDB015, GS SBGA029, Blue Lagoon Turtle and the SLA017

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>tfw too poor for a seamaster

>>61149365
Like under 100$?

>>61150677
People here are mostly talking about how a watch works not how it looks on you.

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>>61153055
A guy was just here to have a link added to his Semenmaster Pro (older wavy dial, pre-cuck axial).

It's just another watch m8.

>>61152930
Thats somewhat true but i cant safe for like 7 months just to buy him a rolie while im not even fully independent myself.
Also im from a society and family/social circle where an accessoire piece that costs more than 50 bucks is kind of a rare sight.
Not like were poor but having children to take care of, a house to pay for and a blue collar job does not leave that much money for things like watches over taking vacation
And I guess there must be some decent entry level watches around that ballpark. Its not like he is stepping out of a Porsche and has to make sure that everything on his body is costly

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>>61147570
>6k
>considering a tag huehue

>post watch
>0 compliments
Fuck this place, I'm moving to Reddit.

>>61153280
https://youtu.be/zi8ShAosqzI

:^)

>>61153280
stop posting shitters, we don't care

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>>61149979

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how well did i do /wt/?

>>61153432
Okay I guess if it's brand new. However the lack of a frame on the day-date window bugs me.

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yay or nay? I found this for less than $100

>>61153466
Poo in loo

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>>61153466
Go ahead, buy it.

>>61153488
>>61153489
thanks for the save

>>61153055
Buy a vintage Seamaster faggot, you want the cuck-axial?

>>61153466
If you just want something to wear, it's probably fine. Keep in mind it's probably an amalgamation of donor parts.

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You have to trade in your automatic Seiko SAR/LM/Prospex/5 for a quartz watch. What do you choose?

>>61154008
9F GS or Citizen chronomaster.

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RIOS1931 straps are 10/10 for the price, can recommend.

>>61154008
Jokes on you I dont have an automatic seiko

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>>61154008
Snowfrake.

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Does Tudor offer their metal bracelets for sale?

I like both metal and the official leather

>>61149979
>I am 94 years old and have lived my whole life as a sub in a bsdm twink in a san Francisco fetish community I filmed 4 hours of man on man BSDM anal prolapse sex today.
>but that watch is the gayest thing I have ever seen in my life

well damn

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>>61147350
>I am thinking of doing something nutty guys. A brand new Rolex Submariner is $6800 if you shop around.
>Parts for the new rolex are nearly unfindable, I have seen the following parts sell for:
>bracelet $2200
>case $2500 (with crystal, without crown)
>dial $400
>movement $3000
>box/docs $200
>That's $8600

this seems to check out

perhaps worth a shot

>>61154529
I have seen them for sale individually on ebay but never from a dealer

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Slow Jo 17

>>61154854
the 0 and the 23 should be at the top

>you had one job

>>61154879
Not true, the philosophy was the hand follows the sun.

>>61153214

New Carreras look amazing. And some people have money.

>>61154907
>Not true, the philosophy was the hand follows the sun.
>going outside or having any idea where the sun is

2011

midnight is up, not hard

>>61154923
>New Carreras look amazing. And some people have money.

A fool and his money are soon wearing a Tag

>>61154931
Oh fuck off

>>61154974
>Oh fuck off
mad

>>61154991
Go outside

>>61154854
There should be a "24" marker, it's never zero o'clock, it's 2400

>>61155005
sorry ur watch is upside down bro, didn't mean to trigger you

wear it in good health

>>61154854
>this probably costs twenty new Luch single-handers

>>61155022
>There should be a "24" marker, it's never zero o'clock, it's 2400

Hey guys let's make a one handed watch and put no thought into the dial so no matter how neat the movement is we will look like bumbling fools

>must have seemed like a solid strategy at the time

>>61154529
Always buy a watch on the bracelet. If you try to buy the bracelet later, it'll be way more expensive. At worst, if they won't sell you the strap then you can just buy a strap somewhere else.

>my hobby is about buying stuff

>>61155243
>>my hobby is about buying stuff
>smartphone general
>pc building general
>apple general
>which is the best GPU threads
>should I buy a rasberry pii

etc and so forth

>>61155312
>i have to justify my hobby about buying stuff

>>61155345
>>i have to justify my hobby about buying stuff
you do?

>>61155022
>>61155090
It's never 24 o'clock either retards, this is a normal quirk with all 24'hour watches

>>61155400
>It's never 24 o'clock either retards,
Yes it is, right after 23.59

otherwise it would go

59
01

and you would lose a minute

>>61155022
>>61155090
>>61155400
>None of us have any idea hour 24-hour time works

0015 is the correct way of saying 15 minutes into the first hour of a new day. There's never a fucking 24 you idiots and this isn't a quirk either.

>>61155458

8:00 pm 20:00
9:00 pm 21:00
10:00 pm 22:00
11:00 pm 23:00
12:00 midnight 24:00

http://militarytimechart.com/

>>61155440
Uh no... at the 59th minute there are 60 seconds remaining in the hour. The moment you reach 60 the hour changes. So at 2359 and 59 seconds, in one second when there has been 60 minutes in the hour, the next hour begins.

>>61155491

2359
2400
2401

not hard

1159
1200
1201

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>>61155489
Your dumbass reference listed midnite twice

>>61155489
>>61155508
BTFO

>>61155508
>Your dumbass reference listed midnite twice

i-it's showing the 12 hour equivalent to the 24 hour clock, not sure how do dumb it down anymore

>>61155508
looks more like your reference literally listed midnight twice and added a min to the day

>>61155525
I'm not sure what you're not getting here, it listed 12am as being simultaneously 00:00 and 24:00 which is obviously wrong. 12am=00:00 in any scenario

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>>61148805
>>61148728
Yeah I will probably buy it at some point, just a question of getting a good price. Also having trouble choosing between the cream and the blue dials.

>>61148861
>same city

St. Thomas is not London. Besides I think Al has been scaling down the amount of servicing he does, because he was stressed from all the volume he got. I just use the /wt/ approved southern Ontario watchmaker in Toronto.

I really, really want a pie pan Constellation at some point. I can't really justify one with the salary I get from my wageslave office job though.

>>61152450
It depends. On the older Eco-Drives where the charge was stored in a series of capacitors, the watch was worthless once those gave up the ghost. Theoretically the newer ones with 15-year battery cells will last much longer. But solar panels also degrade over time and become gradually less and less efficient, so I'll be surprised if any solar watch realistically lasts more than 25 or 30 years.

It will basically last a lifetime, but it will never be an heirloom item.

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>>61155570
>I'm not sure what you're not getting here, it listed 12am as being simultaneously 00:00 and 24:00 which is obviously wrong.

it's not wrong, it's just a difference in terminology

both calling midnight 24hundred and 0 hour are correct

but they are not both correct at the same time

the clock does not go

23:59
00:00
24:00
24:01

it's one or the other, not both and it's just a regional difference in what people call it, like calling 12 midday noon, they are the same, there is not a midday then a noon

>>61155570
If you read the website, it says that 0000 and 2400 are both acceptable. However, it is 0001, not 2401. Also, for any native English speaker, the use of the phrase "twenty-four hundred" to refer to midnight should inform you that 2400 is valid.

>>61155603
>It will basically last a lifetime, but it will never be an heirloom item.

why not after 30 years of continuous use a mechanical would have to have major parts of its movement replaced too

Is it true that electronic circuitry in quartz watches always degrades after a few decades?

And that mechanical watches therefore last much longer if regularly serviced?

>>61155508
>>61155518
samefag

>>61155657
>And that mechanical watches therefore last much longer if regularly serviced?

AHAHAHAHAHHA NO

unless by regularly serviced you mean every part of the movement replaced, a car will run forever if you "regularly service it" when that service can include replacing the engine

>>61155629
I'm a native English speaker, and I'm in the military and nobody says 2400. They either say "zero zero thirty" (uncommon), or "balls thirty" (common)

>>61155694
>I'm a native English speaker, and I'm in the military and nobody says 2400

You guys say a lot of dumb shit though, what POGs say is not indicative of a mature lexicon

>>61155715
you guys also hold your dick and say "this is my gun"

>>61155694
Well no shit people don't say 2400 and 0030 to mean the same thing.

>>61155715
Fair enough, I just wanted to give my two cents from the perspective of someone who actually works in an environment where using 24-hour time is commonplace. :)

>>61155756
2400 is pronounced "midnite"... I know it's crazy right?

>>61155772
Basically you are right, the people who are wrong in this thread are the ones insisting one is valid and the other is not

12pm, midnight, 0hour, and 2400 all refer to the same time

I would rather have a 24 on my 24 hour watch face though, that 0 looks gaaaay

>>61155857
That's just like, your opinion man

>>61155657
Depends on the quality of each movement. There are a bunch of early quartz movement from the early 70's that are still running fine and mechanicals from the 50's or earlier that just need a new mainspring.

And Soviet junkers from the 70's that just need their first ever service and they're good as new.

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>>61155657
Mechanical parts obviously wear down too. Most quartz movements especially today are just not designed for serviceability and aren't supported by the manufacturers in the way that high end mechanical movements are expected to receive long-term support. And it's probably easier (but still really expensive) to remanufacture replacement gears and stuff once a mechanical watch is really old and spares are no longer available.

It's kind of a tossup, quartz tends to last much longer without service but since people decided quartz isn't cool anymore then mechanicals are much more likely to get maintained and therefore last a really long time. It's totally possible to service a quartz watch just like a mechanical watch and bring it back to excellent condition, pic related.

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>>61155857

>>61155857
I concede my argument that 2400 is invalid for referring to midnite. That being said, I believe we're all in agreement here that 2401 doesn't exist, so I don't think a 24 on a 24 hour watch would actually work. Am I wrong?

>>61155866
>mechanicals from the 50's or earlier that just need a new mainspring.

Only if they have been sitting in a drawer for 40 of those 50 years doing nothing, while the quartz has been running the whole time

which they probably have

>>61155898
I'm >>61155919
This is what I mean, this watch seems to at some point display time that doesn't exist

>>61155811
As codified in ISO 8601, midnight is referred to as 2400 when referring to the end of a day, and 0000 when referring to the beginning of the day.


>>61155792
I'm sorry, can you point on the doll where father time touched you?

>>61155898

ACCUTRON BLOWS 00 FAGS INTO ORBIT

>>61155957
Kek, enjoy your made up time faggot

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>>61155919
>I concede my argument that 2400 is invalid for referring to midnite. That being said, I believe we're all in agreement here that 2401 doesn't exist, so I don't think a 24 on a 24 hour watch would actually work. Am I wrong?

Real talk.

Why does /wt/ unironically buy automatic/mechanical watches?

They're less accurate than quartz. They don't last as long. They cost more. You're literally paying extra for a less reliable less accurate movement.

>>61156027
This only makes me think I'm right, if I'm looking at correctly it will display 2415 for example which doesn't exist

>>61156055
we know, we have this discussion 5x per week.

We do it because it's fun, is there any practical reason for the average person to own a horse?

it's a hobby

>>61156078
>We do it because it's fun, is there any practical reason for the average person to own a horse?

When society collapses, you'll have a means of transportation?

>>61156065
>This only makes me think I'm right, if I'm looking at correctly it will display 2415 for example which doesn't exist
the hour hand will be slightly past the 24 at that point to 0 time. 24 hour watches reset totally at midnight, they don't go from 12 to 1 illogically , they go from 24 to 0 in 1 second

>>61156088

When society collapses and there is no electricity or batteries I will have the correct time

>>61156055
I have some quartz and auto. I wear the quartz when I am too cautious to wear the auto, like when at the range.
Automatic movements are more fun to watch.
In most cases the movement is much more aesthetic and technically interesting (definitely not all, high-end quartz, tuning fork, spring drive are all interesting technologies as well).
You can take them apart and rebuild them, modify them, regulate them.
Winding manuals satisfies my autism.
Also, sometimes not worrying about needing batteries can be nice.

>>61156125
>When society collapses and there is no electricity or batteries I will have the correct time

told

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>>61147776
Silver dials can age from moisture but is easily cleanable, here is my Omega Deville pre service, the watch maker was able to literally clean it off

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>>61156055
>They don't last as long.

Well that's not true. A Rolex or other quality mechanical will last longer than you will as long as you don't run over it or something else retarded.


Not that it matters though. I buy them because I like them and they speak to Western ingenuity, history, and craftsmanship.

It's a white people thing, I wouldn't expect you to understand.

>>61156132
>Also, sometimes not worrying about needing batteries can be nice.

Because taking 90 seconds to put in a new one every 5 years really cuts into the hours you could be regulating a mechanical

>>61156151
>Well that's not true. A Rolex or other quality mechanical will last longer than you will as long as you don't run over it or something else retarded.

more like "as long as you do $700 services every 5--8 years"

if you totally rebuilt your car every few years it would last forever too

>>61156151
Rolexs are so fucking ugly. I'll never understand the appeal. They're ghastly.

>>61156187
some look good, that specific one looks like shit

>>61156169
If I travel for a month or go on a hiking trip, I don't want to have to worry about a battery change.

>>61156217
>If I travel for a month or go on a hiking trip, I don't want to have to worry about a battery change.

So... buy a Citizen EcoDrive?

Don't get me wrong, I have automatics too. But it's really fucking comical that a $90 quartz watch loses 2 seconds a month, whereas my $800 "swiss made" meme watch is +/-2 seconds a day.

>>61156217
>If I travel for a month or go on a hiking trip, I don't want to have to worry about a battery change.

Buy a watch with a power indicator, problem solved.

If it's been several years since you replaced the battery, take 2 seconds to do it before you go, problem solved.

quality watches will tell you months in advance they need a new battery

I have always thought quartz watches should come with a holder for an extra battery in the case, there is normally plenty of room, why not do that?

>>61156269
The watch battery will lose a charge. It will drop to around 70% charge over the 5-8 year period before the current battery stops working.

You could do it, but most prefer not to.

>>61156107
There is only one second where the 24 applies, and an entire hour (minus one second) where a 0 applies... isn't it only logical to have a 0 instead of a 24?

>>61156283
>There is only one second where the 24 applies, and an entire hour (minus one second) where a 0 applies... isn't it only logical to have a 0 instead of a 24?
It just depends on how you look at it, both as have been said are technically correct.

I think a dial that counts from 1 to 23 then has a big fucking 0 where you are used to seeing a 12 looks stupid, but that's just me

Digital watches don't have this issue and I guess you could say do the job of display "correctly"

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What is usually a normal price to have a watch serviced and oiled?

>>61156331
Depends entirely on the watch/jewelry shop markup and nothing else.

$50-$100.

>>61156282
>The watch battery will lose a charge. It will drop to around 70% charge over the 5-8 year period before the current battery stops working.

understood, it would be more of an emergency thing so you can get your watch going in a min even if you are away from anywhere that sells watch batteries and have a month+ to find one

like a spare tire

>>61156331
anywhere from $50 to well over $1000

>>61156324
Let me bring you wayyyy back to my post >>61154854. It have a 12 where you're used to seeing a 12, and uses the superior 0.

>>61156398
That's what is so gay about it being upside down, at first glance to anyone it looks like a sensible watch. Then upon closer inspection you find it's a 23 hour + 0 watch with midnight at the palace where the 12 would suggest the 6 would be

worst design ever

>>61156428
I like it

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>>61156342
>>61156358
I feel stupid for spending 150€ on my Seiko LM special 5216-7100 for some reason

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>>61156283

>>61156553
Why, does it need a service now?

You have to be careful buying older mid to low priced mechanicals, a good service often costs more than the watch is worth and does not add much value

a quality service on that thing if nothing is broken should be 100-200 usdollaroos

>>61156589
Nice

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>>61156609

>>61156589
>>61156627
Russian shitters use 0

>>61156027
>>61155898

Breitling and Bulova Accutron use 24

really makes you think

I am 32, I actually have good money but I had a casio terrorist when i was younger and I liked it.

will I look stupid if I wear one at my age in a casual dress but good paying job situation?

>>61156908
Yeah, you should upgrade to a G-shock.
You'll be fine, I know plenty of lawyers who wear digital Casios to work.

>>61154931
>midnight is up,
Never navigated by the sun or the stars, I take it.
>not hard
Only for some, like you.

>>61156793
What's the point of the Explorer II? It's just an uglier GMT-Master without the rotating bezel.

>>61156947

Show me 2 other watches that are not obscure to the point of being a joke where the hour hand points straight down at midnight

>>61152936
>Moon
The Landmaster has a nice design including the hands.

Too bad it looks like a chimney on the wrist.

>>61156979
>What's the point of the Explorer II? It's just an uglier GMT-Master without the rotating bezel.
It has a properly displayed 24 hour marker in the proper location

>>61156979
Muh 24

>>61156945
>Yeah, you should upgrade to a G-shock.

maybe it's just me but the gshock looks worse and bulky and cheap

but the solar atomic version is almost $300 lol

>>61157007
No true Scotsman detected.

Question dismissed.

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>>61145998
Moto 360 2nd generation

>>61157053
>No true Scotsman detected.
?

that would only apply if you showed me 2 watches that had the hour hand pointed down and I said they didn't count

but the thing is its a stupid idea and you cant find any at all

>>61157102
did you drop it, why is the bottom of the screen black

>>61157040
>but the solar atomic version is almost $300 lol
Pesos? They're $100. Get a GWM5610

>>61157040
there are thousands of models of gshocks

>>61157102
Your watch pressure looks a bit low, might want to put some air in it

What vintage watches should I be looking at for around $100? Obviously I'm not expecting miracles.

>>61157211
>>61157563
It looks retarded in pictures but in daily usage I don't notice

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>>61157040
Try this one.

>>61157742
looks good thanks

>>61157742
I really wish Casio made a digital watch that didn't have all these fucking words on them.

>>61158102
It makes me want to buy a clean faced Chinese "homage" and franken some Casio guts in.

>>61157631
Also, I already know to avoid Indian sellers, I trust the Chinese more, and that's saying something.

>>61149396
At least you bought the smaller model with better proportioned case and date window.
Should've gone for the brown strap tho imo desu senpai

>>61147350
>I am thinking of doing something nutty guys. A brand new Rolex Submariner is $6800 if you shop around.
>Parts for the new rolex are nearly unfindable, I have seen the following parts sell for:
>bracelet $2200
>case $2500 (with crystal, without crown)
>dial $400
>movement $3000
>box/docs $200
>That's $8600
>I would make about $1200 after ebay fees
>If I do this 6 times I can have basically a free submariner just for my trouble on ebay
>I have enough paypal credit to do it, I would make a video of me unboxing the watch and show the serial number so everyone would know they were getting brand new unused parts, i might even get a little more than i listed if I do that.
>what do you think?

If you pull this off you better post about it here

>>61156600
Idk just worried that i either underpayed for some crapjob or over payed for them to ruin it

>>61155641
Easier to replace mechanical components than it is to replace a capacitor.

>>61156553
That's a good price for a 52 Caliber in decent shape. I spent $100 on my 5216 and then another $150 on a service plus $50 to replace a cracked crystal.

>>61158173
Buy from the Japs. Lots of those fuckers on eBay taking advantage of arbitrage (used watches are virtually worthless in Japan), but not usually trying anything sneaky or underhanded.

What's the deal with the Ernest borel kaleidascope watch

>>61159995
It's not a watch, it's a Kinder Surprise toy.

>>61159995
This one? >>61149511

>>61160064
Yes i just got offered one.how much are they worth

>>61160090
I think I paid 75 for mine iirc. Check what they are super common and not very expensive.

>>61160147
Check *eBay

>>61160090
< $100 usually. $200 is you're very lucky with the model.

What modern watches have the best movements and finishing?

>>61160181
Best movement is a lot harder to say without some more guidance on what matters to you. Best finishing, Lange is a very strong contender among watch companies that produce in scale.

>>61160240
Lange are definitely on my list, especially the Datograph.

I guess for "movement" I'm looking for something mechanical that's unusual or technically impressive. Movements that people will find desirable in the years to come.

>>61159902
>Easier to replace mechanical components than it is to replace a capacitor.

No it's not you just toss the whole movement if anything but the battery is bad they are cheap

>>61160312
One of the independents. Voutilainen, Dufour, Roger Smith, etc.

>>61160312
>Unusual, technically impressive
Urban jurgenson detent escapement
Tag Heuer mikrogirder
Lange pour le merite tourbograph
Vacheron celestia astronomical
Jlc spherotourbillon
Credor spring drive repeater
List could go on and on

>>61149251
What is that one?

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>>61160753
It's a Chinese brand called vager hauers. Running second and 24 hour subdials.

>>61152652
get a strap without the second piece then you can put the buckle wherever you like it

>>61160942
what do the symbols mean?

>>61161679
Disclaimer: I don't speak Chinese. The vertical symbols near the date are the brand name. The symbols in the running seconds subdial are 60, 15, and 30. The symbols in the we hour dial are the symbols of the twelve 2 hour periods in the traditional Chinese 24 hour Shi Chen time system. That's all I've identified so far.

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So /wt/, I've been thinking about getting pic related for a while.
Tried it, seemed to suit me. Where does /wt/ stand on this?

>>61161827
That offset 15 triggers me.

>>61161827
It's good, don't pay more than 500 and try to pay less than 400. Arguably the only swiss watch below 2k with decent value.

>>61161889
Sounds dope, found one for around 450 recently.
I am almost ready.

>>61160569
Anything that doesn't cost 6 figures?

>>61161995
What's the budget you're thinking of?

>>61162104
$80-100k

I was thinking of get a selection of 10-20k watches rather than a single expensive one.

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>>61161827
>Where does /wt/ stand on this?

I have one. I like it.

I bought it after my Citizen EcoDrive's battery failed after 9 years (last a lifetime my ass). I wanted a simple watch with readable Arabic numerals and few complications, and, well, that's exactly what the Hamilton's Khaki line is supposed to be.

>>61162209
There are many excellent watches in that range. You could get a Rolex date just though that's pretty generic, modern Rolex movements are exceptionally accurate and reliable. Lots of great options from jlc - jlc's pedigree as a watchmaker is very good. You can stretch to a Lange 1815 in that range.

In terms of really unique mechanisms or complications, most will be out of that range. Spring drive is a notable exception and you should almost certainly include a spring drive Grand Seiko or credor. Tag had a 15k tourbillon you could check out in that range, though I don't care for the style and it's kind of a gimmicky complication. Zenith had a fusee recently somewhere in that range, forget exactly where. Breguet has some nice skeleton pieces that brush the top of that range. You could add a modern haq piece like the citizen chronomaster if you're not snobby about quartz. You might be able to find a remontoire in that range, which is an amazing complication, but I doubt it.

Bottom line: get a jlc, get a spring drive, get a Lange, and get something more gimmicky.

>>61162209
Haute Horlogerie such as
De Bethune
Credor
FP Journe, etc.

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>>61158102
So much this.