/mkg/ - Great Yellow Donkey Edition

>>61138045
Praise the Donkey

>>61138045
Previous Thread
>61101724

>>61138079
>Previous Thread
Shit I fucked up
>>61101724

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My ikbc C87 arrived yesterday.
Here's a pic, though it doesn't do it justice. Looks much better in person, kinda like the stock pics.
The down-key had a plastic seam at the bottom which I filed off. You can still see some of it in the picture if you look closely.
Other than that I see no issues, I like it.
Got it in just 2.5 weeks from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/IKBC-C87-TKL-mechanical-keyboard-tenkeyless-C-87-PBT-keycap-cherry-mx-switch-brown-blue-87/32580388291.html

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>>61138147
stock pic here. It actually does look like this in real life if you use strong lighting.
Only difference is that the keycaps have a more matte/grainy texture in real life, which is something I like.

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any good mods to a stock hhkb?

>>61138304
yellowing reminds me of my old nes damn that shits nostalgic

>>61138045
Where can I get keycaps that have GNU and Tux on them to replace the windows key?

Are gaterons really better than cherries or is it just a meme?

>no numpads
into the trash

>>61138450
What are you some freelancing accountant?

>>61138527
I always fuck up my PWs without it.

>>61138450
this so much

>>61138410
Chyna

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Drevo Gramr 84 with blue switches. Feeös öole a dream

>>61138450
>>61138684
I'm happy that i will never be this autistic

>>61138304
Dude nice keeb collection. I think most people's end game is the HHKB. You should invest in Topre MX sliders for some sweet key caps or you can buy some sweet artisans for topre. You should mod your keeb with 55g domes and lube your stems, that makes these keebs super smooth to type on. Where did you get that wood keeb wrist rest?

>>61138304
Are the HHKBs that nice? Thought they were mostly a meme

>>61138410
where do you live?

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>>61139037
They are, but its a comfy meme

>>61138737
>he enters numbers with the number row keys

The only time I reach up there is for symbols. It might as well be symbol only keys.

Are there any good youtube channels regarding mechanical keyboards?

>>61138427
Their linears and browns are silky smooth unlike Cherry's scratchy horse shit.
inb4 cherry's new molds nobody has switches from

>>61139365
Chyrosran22

Been trying to learn to touch type on my KBP v60. Wrists are killing me (poor position I know) so I guess I might try a wrist rest to see if I can make any progress.

>>61139605
wrist rests won't help you there

>>61139629
Yeah, that's what I was worried about - timne to shift my fat arse and learn to sit properly

>>61139037
FC660C is better.

>be me
>be programming my new tada68
>trying to remap Caps Lock somewhere else
>it keeps doing Backspace instead
>remember something about Windows being really fussy about remapping Caps Lock, doesn't make much sense but maybe it's fucking something up?
>experiment for a while, try to figure it out
>finally remember I installed some registry hack or whatever to remap caps lock to backspace at the OS level
I feel so stupid. Now to find it, uninstall it, and get back to breaking the board with recursive layer modifiers

>>61138045

I just made the Jump /g/

Thanks for the advice, how did I do on this cheap gaming keyboard?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0734919BR/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I was sold after people reported the reaction was noticably faster.

This is the perfect keyboard for me, except that I wanted a compact one, but you can't have everything.

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I tried designing a PCB for the first time tonight, how badly did I fuck up?

Yes I know I forgot to remove the LED pads.

>>61140536
This is stupid since both cherry, matias, and kailh have faster switches at a cheaper price

>>61140570
That is not gonna work at all,enjoy your house fire/dead usb slot

>>61139110
USA

>>61139235
I don't care.

>>61140656
Fuck

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Fuck MasterKeys Pro S mechanical keyboard. RMA'd twice now - not sure if they will even replace it this time. A fucking piece of shit.

Can someone recommend another £100 or less keyboard similar to it?

>>61140536
>no name switches
>horrible keycaps
>gamer shit everywhere

Horrible pick for a keyboard. If you wanted a compact keyboard with Gateron switches, PBT keycaps, and a steel plate, you should've got this for the same price:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/2230037_32807055607.html

>>61140750
ducky one?

>>61140750
Unironically tada68, unless you really want that dedicated F-keys row or the RGB

However I added a couple layers and I actually find myself using even the number row less and less. YMMV but I may actually end up falling for a 40% meme soon.

>>61140750
Forgot to mention I'd like the RGB meme like MasterKeys.

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>>61140867
Then get a Ducky One with RGB lighting

>>61140895
>ducky one
is this chink stuff legit?
It's £140 so even more expensive but if good whatever I guess

>>61140573


What do you mean by faster? Less than 1.8mm travel?

I wanted linear switches, and these boasted both linear Red switches with short travel, and like I said, it may sounds like a meme, but apparently the infared sensor in the switch makes a noticable decrease in latency. (they claim 0.2ms)

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>>61140867
Logitech G Pro.

If you don't like the switches, Corsair K65

>>61140763

But that one doesn't have RGB or infared switches, which apparently make a slight reduction in latency. Apparently Bloody's "fastest switch in the world claim" isn't just marketing bs.

>>61140959
More legit than jamesdonkey keyboard.

>>61140959
U sure its like 140€ here. I went with the non backlit version for 80€ since I didn't care for the meme. It's very solid and would recommend it, but you're probably looking for it at the wrong place

>>61141000

Replying to myself.

I JUST ordered the bloody one, should I cancel my amazon order and get the corsair?

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Compact-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B00DOWCQ0I/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1498757511&sr=1-1&keywords=Corsair+K65

Is there any $60 or $80 keyboard that is compact, cherry MX red and RGB?

Are the 'no-name' LK infared swithes really bad? Just because they are not popular doesn't mean they aren't quality.

>>61140763

Also can't I buy quality double shot keycaps and put them on?

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>>61141067
Checked everywhere. £140 min or out of stock.

>>61140975
>>61141000
Kailh makes the fastest switch with a 1.1mm actuation point while cherry speeds are 1.2 and both have 1ms of latency depending on the keyboard firmware. Heck even chink boards like the noppoo choc mini have 1ms of latency with the cherry switch version.

>>61140975
what's the point of fast latency if its gonna be bottle necked by the 1000hz poling rate of USB

>>61141160
Who new brexit could be such a bitch. All your mechanical keyboards are overpriced, even cooler master keyboards are $50-60 over priced.

>>61140536
>people reported the reaction was noticably faster
p l a c e b o

>>61141164
noppoo choc mini lets you adjust debounce time too so you can set it to just above the chattering threshold

>>61141164

Well then that raises a good question: Which is faster:

A 1.8mm travel with 0.2ms latency
or
A 1.1mm travel with 1ms latency

>>61141453
Won't 0.2ms get screwed by chatter? Also >>61141199 - wouldn't you need PS/2 to be able to take advantage of that?

>>61141318
>>61141199
>>61141164

Ok, here is what I will do.

Apparently my Bloody keyboard has already shipped, so I'll have to return it if I don't want it.

But that gives me an idea. I will also order a Cherry MX RED or Kailh RED switch compact keyboard and see how it compares.

Anyone have recommendations on a good Cherry MX RED or Kailh RED compact RGB
keyboard?

Thanks.

>>61141617
Why not Gateron reds?

>>61139376
And how are their blues? Also, aren't the browns horseshit themselves or is it just another /g/ meme?
Fuck, I really gotta get a switch tester.

>>61141617
https://www.amazon.com/GANSS-Rainbow-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01M8N78L6

>>61141662
ugh the keys aren't actually rgb
>The keycaps's backlighting is only an ice blue,but the keyboard base is multiple-mode RGB backlighting.

>>61141712

I might just fore-go the RGB and get this more utilitarian options:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DOWCQ0I/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3BH110Q9CI7HY&colid=14VMMAZUUQVJT

Should I give up on finding a $60-$100 Cherry MX Red RGB compact keyboard?

>>61141641

>>61140995
No, don't get corsair, cheap and awful abs keys that will look like you smothered them in lard after not much time at all.

>>61141641

Because I want the shortest key travel and an above poster said the shortest were Kailh's at 1.1mm and Cherry MX Reds at 1.2mm

>>61141765
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DOWCQ0I
i would rather have one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B071W2697M
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9W13T36064
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9W13T36060

>>61141841
>https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B071W2697M
meant mx red/silver of course, not brown

>>61141789
Shortest would be MX Silver, not common MX Red.

>>61141789
no its cherry mx speed/silver and kailh bronze/silver/copper, not reds

>>61141789
reds actuate at 2mm. You're looking at the wrong switches

>>61141647
switch testers aren't actually very helpful, it's a feeling to go with what you already know they're like, but it's not the same feeling as typing on a full board

finding out you prefer greens to blues is something that it takes typing on a full board for, you might not realize you're gonna bottom out a lot on blues if you're just carefully pressing a single switch instead of typing normally with every finger

>>61139605
keep yours arms elevated off your desk while typing and try to keep them straight

http://www.gearbest.com/keyboards/pp_591295.html

Any of you have this?

Can I remove the yellow part from the case?

It's a great price but it looks disgusting.

>>61142149
But then he cant flip his spacebar.

>>61141647
No, brown is a fine switches. Some don't like browns because tactile feel too subtle. While some prefer that.

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>>61142271
you keep your elbows planted at desk level on the arm rests of your ergonomic task chair, and you keep your keyboard flat on the table with a 7 degree incline built into the keyboard, and then with your elbows at desk height, your keyboard raised from the desk, and with your wrists and thumbs neutrally positioned you will find that the cherry/oem profile is garbage and they only angled it that way to fit in with the rest of the bottom row from an aesthetics point of view. see pic related for how a less shitty spacebar would look like.

>>61142423
>cherry/oem profile
*cherry/oem profile spacebar

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>>61142259
i think an anon (OP?) or two has it and at least one anon is waiting for his to arrive. the yellow parts are removable but you might need a hex key (but i have seen it with normal screws too). it doesn't have built in memory so the yellow backlight will come on every time you plug it in.

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where can i buy keycaps that create a similar effect to this?
alternatively where can i get clear keycaps with a plastic that diffuses the light?
I cant find what I'm looking for at all. also i need the ISO keycaps

>>61142733
https://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Universal-Cherry-Translucent/dp/B015S7O4KG?th=1
They also have a version that's tinted

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>>61142733
You'd have to get a keyboard with smd leds if you want something like that

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>>61142817
but they dont really diffuse as well as i want. do you think sandpaper will make it diffuse better?
i want something like pic related
>>61142841
what is the difference between surface mounted and led in the switch itself?

>>61142858
Those keycaps in the pic are:
http://www.maxkeyboard.com/custom-white-translucent-top-backlight-keycap-set-blank.html

>>61142879
i know. i want something similar but through the whole keycap. you see how in the link >>61142817 posted the lights are alot sharper?
i want something like the max keys but with the soft diffuse going through the whole keycap

>>61142858
kbdfans to the rescue

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Front-Side-Printed-Backlit-Keycaps-Black-104-87-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycap-For-MX-Switches-87/2230037_32789273321.html

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IKBC-New-Poker-II-PBT-Mechanical-Keyboard-with-Cherry-MX-Switch-61-Key-Type-C-/272674895405?var=&hash=item3f7cb0b62d:m:mLvl5zdy2nsppGJ6lkT_3iA
Are these legit, lads?

>Budget
200€
>Location
Germany
>Preferred switch type
Brown (but haven't tested any)
>Layout
ISO
>Form factor
TKL
>Backlight
preferred
>Previous/current keyboards
Razer shit

>>61138737
>I'm happy that i will never be this autistic

I worked for almost three years in trading and when you actually have to do business calculations half your day and have to input thousands of things into excel or SAP, you would rather kill yourself than input that shit with the number row.

>Budget
90 USD (I can reach to 100 USD Max)
>Location
Chile (Shitskin texas for the friends)
>Preferred switch type
MX Blue
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
60%, but 100% is also acceptable if the keycaps aren't ugly
>Backlight
Prefered. Hopefully not muh gaymen RGB shit. I want solid white with sufficient PWM frequency (I had a keyboard whose PWM was loud enough to cause me headache)
>Previous/current keyboards
Motospeed CK104. Now a shitty no-name rubber dome.

>>61138045
Anon please tell me your thoughts about the James Donkey.

Gaterons for that price seem tempting, considering my first option costs 60€.

>>61143911
James Donkey's decent. The keys feel like it's made out of recycled ink cartridges, but the switches themselves are really nice. I really enjoyed typing on them, whereas I felt a resounding "meh" when I decided to take out my RK-9000 with Cherry MX Browns.

>>61143547
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/32807055607.html

>>61143911
Very decent. It just looks ugly with the yellow stands, but you can easily just remove those. Keycaps are ABS, but otherwise I can't think of something that is absolutely and OBJECTIVELY terrible about it.
>Detachable Cable
>Lighting
>Gaterons
>Metal Plate

>>61144031
How does Aliexpress get away with free international shipping? Even shipping doujins with SAL costs a fortune.

>>61144031
gateron blues are actually garbage anon. Cherries are better.
>>61143547
A Corsair Strafe isn't too bad
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-STRAFE-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B015A9ZDO8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1498768854&sr=8-3&keywords=cherry+mx+blue

If you don't care about the lighting the turtle beach's keyboard is actually pretty good. TKL and no back lighting though.
https://www.amazon.com/Turtle-Beach-Impact-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B00TR05QAI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498768969&sr=8-1&keywords=turtle+beach+keyboard

>>61143983
>>61144057
Ok, thanks, for that price I don't think I can do better.

Now I just have to decide between blues or browns since I know jack shit about switches.

>>61144087
Cause there is a tax on degeneracy.

>>61144057
Exactly how are the yellow bits attached? Do they serve any functional value?

>>61144124
Blue gaterons are not that great compared to cherry mx.
I would personally recommend gateron browns. Great tactile bump and fun for typing. Beats the Cherry mx browns out of the water.

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PBT feels really god damn nice under your fingers.

>>61144142
The feet are located there, but honestly I don't type with the feet anymore since it causes carpal tunnel. Your hand should be hovering above the keyboard, not at an angle and bent. That is how you get carpal tunnel.

>>61144124
Beginners usually start with Browns. It was my first switch until I actually got the dosh to spend on more keyboards.

Gateron Browns are actually better than Cherry due to their smoother action and slightly more pronounced bump. Gateron Blues, on the other hand, feel worse than Cherry.

Is selling things hard? I've got some caps I could sell but do I have to go to the post office and shit? That sounds hard. Is it worth going to the post office and doing all that just to get some money?

So I bought a Logitech G413 keyboard, my first mechanical. It feels good but whenver I press a key harder I can hear a metallic feedback. Is this normal?

>>61144698
>Is it worth going to the post office and doing all that just to get some money?

You're the one who should answer that question.

For me at least, no, it isn't.

>>61143373
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/code-keyboard/code-88-key-ger-mechanical-keyboard.html
Only available with clear switches, but clears are just heavier browns.

>>61144155
>>61144180
Again I see Gateron blues being bashed with no proper arguments.
In all my time lurking here, I've seen two objective differences mentioned:
>extra 5g on the gats
>higher clicking pitch on the gats
First point should be personal preference. Second point makes them sound louder, but if you're already typing on blues it shouldn't be the deciding factor.

So what actually makes gat blues worse than cherry?

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I bought this with MX clears. How fucked am I?

>>61144772
>ping sound
Welcome to Romer-G.

>>61144169
It's so hard that it hurts my fingers when I hit on the edge of a key, but the grainy texture is really nice.

>>61142817
could using sandpaper on these work if i want it to be diffused?

>tfw squeaky keys
The fag with the new tada68 here again, and some of the switches are fucking squeaking now. Gateron blues.

Was the meme true and are gateron chinkshit? Do I just need to lube them or whatever? Or is it safe to ignore assuming I don't care about the sound itself?

>>61144898
>WASD
Aren't their keycaps shit?

>>61144987
Gateron blues are shit compare to Cherry MX. Linear and tactile are fine thou.

>>61144997
Haven't tried them out personally, but with a 200€ budget they can afford a nicer set of caps along with the keyboard if necessary.

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who /endgame/ here?

Guys, anything similar to Corsair K70 RGB?

>>61145195
cutsom

>>61145195
Similar how?

>>61145184
Nice try. You almost tricked me into showing you mine before you showed me yours with that rubberdome.

>>61145208
Switches, style, cost, and the pros it has against other gaming keyboards.

>>61145307
>pros it has against other gaming keyboards.
Such as?

>>61145184
You're not :)

>>61145307
Only pro I could think of is the dedicate media key and nothing else.

>>61145319
Is well made and is not that expensive.
So, what can it be a good keyboard like that?

>>61144698
if you have one of those $100+ meme sets you should sell that shit. what keycaps do you have?

>>61145413
Ducky one TKL. Better LED and keycaps.

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>>61145184
With hasu controller on the way.

>>61145426

DSA Elven

>>61145601
yeah sell it to some redditor or geekhacker

>>61145499
It seems like its not RGB, though...

>>61138410
how about euthanize yourself for being so autistic that you need a GNU/Linux key

>>61145657
>not RGB

see>>61140895

I'm fucking retarded I just got another 60% only to put some caps on it and stick it on a shelf I'm becoming one these morons with half a dozen boards that never get used.

I kinda wanna get the new cubic profile keycaps, but its in ABS

>>61145749
:^)

>>61145749
should have gone for the tada68

>>61145749
Stay the fuck away from /p/ my friend.

>>61143373
https://www.caseking.de/ducky-one-tkl-pbt-gaming-tastatur-mx-brown-rgb-led-schwarz-gata-877.html

my model M is fucking LOUD
and it's birthday was yesterday '88

>>61146007
Have you been affected by the 2KRO?

>>61146069
It hasn't affected me at all. I can't imagine needing better rollover, unless you're a gaymer or something.

Is there a way to add a delay to a macro on the tada68? I'm slowly figuring out the chink applet but I still don't quite understand everything yet.

What switch is
>clicky
>tactile
>lighter than MX Blue
?

>>61147083
MX blue with swapped springs

>>61147090
Swapped spring from what switch?

>>61147083
razer ornata

>>61147110
>razer crap
No.

>>61147109
Red

>>61147212
Thanks.
Should I buy red switches or I can order the springs separately?

>>61147258
Yes

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Keyboard thread guys, post keyboards.

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I've been using Cherry Blacks for a couple years and just got a board with Cherry Clears and I'm not so thrilled with them. They honestly don't feel much different than browns. Why does everyone praise them as the best tactile switch?

>>61147503
MX Clears have a much larger bump than browns.
Do you have a board with browns to directly compare?

>>61147503
get thick pbt

>>61147503
mx wasn't ever made to be truly tactile. Go for alps/matias.

>>61144967
Are you the guy from the last thread? I just bought it too, don't see myself needing to change the keycaps in the future.

In your opinion what is the:

Best mech keeb layout?

Best mech switch?

Best mech keeb?

End game mech keeb?

>>61148958
>Compact layouts like 96 key and 75%
>Heavy tactile switches like matias and buckling springs. Haven't tried those new meme M/H switches but I hear they're very tactile
>Korean customs are up there, but if you're talking about readily available keyboards then the TADA68, anything made by Leopold, Ducky, and even Cooler Master to some degree
>A custom keyboard with your ideal switch type

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Is this thing a meme? At least its ambitious, making custom alps keycap molds.

>>61149237
>Heavy tactile switches
Like cherry mx grey?

I've been toying for a while with the idea of buying a masterrace modular board and a sack of grey switches from mechanicalkeyboards for this exact thing.

Reason being I owned a ducky with greens and really enjoyed the high force requirement, but hated the sound. The description says they're not ideal for gaming but I addapted to browns relatively easily on my leopold despite the release point being above the actuation point.

>>61149366
That looks like it could be either 100% comfort, or the worst keyboard in existence. Either way the price point is probably way above a normie's willingness to gamble.

>>61148958
>Best mech keeb layout?
75%
>Best mech switch?
Blue ALPS
>Best mech keeb?
Realforce 87U uniform 55g
>End game mech keeb?
A custom 75% board with NOS blue ALPS

>>61144982
Anons answer

>>61138045
I've been considering "styling" my Kingston HyperX Alloy keyboard.

It's got black double-shot keycaps with a red backlight.

I'm not sure what kind of keycap colors would go with a red backlight.

If anyone has a red backlit keyboard with custom keycaps or keycaps that's not black then please post some pictures of your keyboard(s).

On a more general note, I'm pretty happy with this keyboard so far.

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Monoprice has a full size blue or red all black minimally branded keyboard for $28. I'm going to buy it and put these keycaps on it. Think it will look good?
Can you guys think of any other cheap-ish keycap sets that would look good?
I was thinking maybe a dolche or a carbon clone since they're both cheap on ali but not as cheap as the blue/black caps($30).

>>61149587
That weird ISO layout will make things harder for you, but I'd spend more money and get the ANSI version

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Got new keycaps but some modifiers don't work with the layout

>>61140536
You probably did alright there, the reviews I've seen of Bloody's laser keyboards have so far been very positive.

They only come in linear (red-like) and clicky (blue-like) variants so it's no option for me (I like the tactile bump but I don't need to hear it so I prefer brown or brown-like). If you like one of those then it's probably a nice buy. My only worry with these is that there's a laser emitter on every key and I'm not convinced these have very long-lived - and it only takes one failing to ruin the keyboard.

>>61149703
It's just that specific board that is on sale. The only reason I'm doing it is because of $28 full size mech. I figured if I bought the blue keycaps then I could just leave that iso enter key on because it's black.
Maybe there are even switches beneath that will let me use it as either ansi or iso.

You cannot touch $28 free shipping for a full size minimally branded non-gaymur keyboard. Even the memeforce-tier boards are $40 and they look way worse.

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I have a QuickFire keyboard with a warped top panel. I tried putting the panel in the oven to heat it up and make it more malleable so I could flatten it out but it didn't turn out very well. Can you guys tell me what to do to fix this?

>>61149587
>>61149703

> get interested because its got the ISO layout and I'm in Europe (most keyboards sold online has that backwards ANSI layout)
> see that it's a US retailer only selling to US customers

...what? So they are trying to sell semi-ISO keyboards in the one country where they don't use'em?

It's not actually ISO, btw, it's got the big enter key but the big shift key on the left side is supposed to be a small short and a symbol key (with <>½)

>>61149864
>Maybe there are even switches beneath that will let me use it as either ansi or iso.

There isn't, there's never been any secret additional switches between a ISO enter key on any keyboard that I've ever seen.

>>61149964
its so cheap i literally cannot resist even if it had MLP keycaps

>>61149387
clears are probably good enough for you then, unless you want something even heavier than the greens

>>61149948
try putting the rest of the keyboard in the oven and doing the same thing to it, that way it fits

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>>61150014

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who wants to buy my black blank HHKB2?

Its barely been used and will come with a braided red and black custom Pexon cable !

Also with red topre replacement caps for wasd keys

>>61150081

$10 about the average price for a rubber dome so I'll make you a deal and take it for $20

>>61150093
thanks man let me give you my paypal

>>61149587
>>61149983
the black/blue keycaps won't work on it, then.

>>61150154
it will ill just use the stock enter key. I'm more interested in what other sets might look good on an all black board

>>61149997
I had heard that clears are inconsistent. Is it true?

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>>61145581
The Hasu controllers work on the Leopolds?
Does that Leopold come in a Type-S version?
I like that it has just a few more keys on it than the HHKB.

>>61150625
He recently made one specifically for 660c, theres a group buy going on for fc980c too.

You'll have to silence them yourself.

Where can I buy some individual modifiers that match what you can find on the tada68? Or at least some individual blanks keys in the same colour scheme? I reprogrammed a bunch of these keys and my autism ocd is acting up since the legends don't match what the keys do anymore.

>>61138045
I came all over my screen.

>>61152168
You should clean that.

>Budget
100-200 euro bucks
>Location (continent at least)
Europa (Denmark)
>Preferred switch type
Brown?
>Layout
doesn't matter
>Form factor
TKL
>Backlight
Yes
>Previous/current keyboards
Only membranes, my steelseries apex 350 is super silent.
It will be used for a 50/50 mix of gaming and programming, but i really want it silent.

>>61152284
I was going to suggest the Matias Quiet Pro, but it doesn't have backlighting. Topres wouldn't been another option.

For Cherry MX style switches, you have the James Donkey with Gateron Browns or the Ducky One with Cherry MX Brown. Gateron feels better than Cherry.

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>>61140152
T H I S
H
I
S

>>61152344
Thx! Might look into the Ducky One

So what are the absolute best typing switches? Buckling spring, right?

What about best quiet typing switches?

>>61152630
>So what are the absolute best typing switches? Buckling spring, right?
Opinions, but it's a toss-up between buckling springs, ALPS, and Topres.

>What about best quiet typing switches?
Dampened ALPS / Matias Quiet Click

>>61152715
Do people actually, genuinely like Topres more than any other switch?

>>61152761
Some genuinely like Topre, but mostly try to convinced themselves that the overpriced rubber dome was a good choice.

>>61149366
the way the thumb keys are positioned seems like it would be very specific to the user's hand size

>>61152761
Topre do feel nice but it's a subtle thing.

>>61138304

mx stems are a meme unless you like wobbly keys because of all the free play, you might be able to mod mx dsa keys to fit the topre slider but it's hit and miss

if not type-s, silencing mod is worth it (but some keys especially the left shift won't silence as well because there's no stabiliser)

hasu's controller is a safe bet

>>61152630

buckling spring is nice to type on but don't underestimate just how loud they are, and I'm not talking about "/g/, my coworkers dislike my very quiet mx browns, what do"

as far as typing feel, topre > buckling springs > alps > cherry, buckling springs may rate higher if you like really firm switches (or have a better buckling spring like model f's rather than model m's)

as far as quietest goes, something like

silenced topre > topre > silenced alps (matias quiet) > linear cherry with o-rings/landing pads > tactile cherry o-rings > linear cherry > tactile cherry > clicky cherry

>>61149366
>>61152816
Yeah, I've actually been thinking, did they do this just to differentiate from the Ergodox or could there actually be a benefit from this kind of thumb layout?

>>61152897
So are these things like numpads but that can also be used separately as calculators? Do they have a battery or something to allow them to be used separately from the PC?

>>61143911

I recently bought the James Donkey 104 key keyboard with the brown gaterons.
It is my first mechanical keyboard, but to me it feels really good. Sure, it looks a bit silly, but I don't really look at my keyboard.
The LED are only yellow, which in practice is more orange-y than yellow.

If you have any more specific questions, I'll try to answer them.

Oh and btw the software that you can download for the keyboard is pure shit. But it doesn't have to run for normal use.

>>61153026
>Do they have a battery or something to allow them to be used separately from the PC?
Yeah, you can put CR2032 batteries in it.

>>61153243
>CR2032
good taste, those are pretty much the only ones i use any more

>>61153305
they seem to last ages, I have an one with and LED on it and it's been going for almost a month already. It's not quite as bright anymore, but it's still emitting light. I'm just waiting for it to go out so that I can do a second run and check how much current that LED even draws.

>>61152279
Clean the superior Aryan semen? Hell no. My Asian neighbor's wife is going to pay me to give her the opportunity to lick it off.

>>61152897
I'm not sure I like the layout on that numpad.

You have to press FN+5 to access Num lock? I don't use it that frequently but it does seem a bit .. problematic.

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Are there any other keyboards with a similar layout to the Leopold FC660C/M? (other than the clueboard)

I like that it has arrow keys, Poker and Vortex don't

>>61154601
Magicforce, TADA68

>>61154661
>TADA68
Thanks, now I'm even more unsure if I want this or the Leopold

>>61154676
It depends on which switches you want I guess

>>61154744
My current boards are both clues, which I like. Haven't tried topres, but none of my local stores have any to try out. I mainly like that you can see some of the top of the leopold and that the keyboard isn't perfectly filled with keys (if that makes any sense)

>>61144956
QC. Gateron Blues are notorious for being inconsistent. Maybe they fixed the issue, but there was a period where people bashed gateron for it. Also that 55g is a noticable difference from 50g. It is very close to blacks which are 60g at that point.

>>61154676
68 keys are hard to find keycaps for. Especially for the r1 keys on the right and the little shift key. Personally I would go the leopold.

>>61155048
Thanks. I know the leopold requires an extra shift key due to both being the same size, but I didn't know the 68 were tough. Leopold it is

>>61155048
Leopold is harder, more keyboards use a 1.75u right shift than a second 2.25u shift so there's a lot more keycap sets that include it. Plus Leopold uses a 1u Windows key too, so you need a set with 1u bottom row mods anyway.

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Massdrop order arrived. This may take a while.

Ignore the pipe.

>>61155142
I doubt it, 68 keycaps, if you look on ali, there are literally 3 options. Leopold may have an unnatural shift key and a 1u windows, but that is literally it. 68 will require you to find 3 1u r1 rows and that is already a significant challenge to find.

>>61154936
I'm contemplating a Noppo Choc or a Pok3r only because they have Cherry MX switches. I had a gateron keyboard before and the feeling, as you said, was inconsistent.
But in every other threads, gaterons are praised, at least their blues.
I ask anyone who has bought recently a gateron keyboard to share his experiences.

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JUST FUC

>First look
>turns out it will be in amazon stores july 1st
>So basically it is not a first look and I paid more to wait longer

>>61155188
Not all 68 key keyboards are like that. The magicforce uses a standard layout so replacements aren't hard. There are plenty of replacement keycaps for the TADA68. KBDFans has several different options

>>61155221
Who actually praises gateron blues? Their linear(reds, blacks) and tactile(browns) are amazing, but gaterons haven't nailed down the clicky style switches yet for some reason. Their greens have the same problem.

I currently have aa james donkey, noppoo choc mini, and a cheap chink keyboard that had swappable switches so I switched them with gaterons. The gaterons browns are now my favorite and have overtaken my love of cherry mx blues.

>>>61155249
Well the magicforce one is weired. Isn't that the one that kinda looks like a tkl, but it isn't really.

>>61155285
weird*

>>61155188
At least you can use any 1u key to fill in the gaps with only a little difference in profile at worst. Almost no budget enthusiast keysets include a second 2.25u shift because there's only 3 keyboards in existence that use it. Look at Maxkeys and EnjoyPBT, probably the two biggest names in that market.

Both have only one 2.25u shift, but do have a 1.75u. The only exception is Maxkey Ninja on KBDFans, where you can get a second 2.25u shift for $5 extra, but why would you do that when you're already getting a keyset that can nicely cover a 65%?

>>61155318
>1u key to fill in the gaps
they need to be r1 1u. Those are difficult to find.

>>61155338
Still less difficult than an extra 2.25u shift. Unless you want to start buying two copies of every keyset you get just for one key.

>>61155242
>assdrop

>>61155165
ahahahahahah duuude weed lmao xDDDDD

>>61155353
modifier keys?

>>61155165
>ignore the pipe
>calls attention to it

why are pot smokers so fucking annoying?

>>61155165
Are you baiting with that ignore the pipe comment or are you seriously unaware that telling people to ignore something makes it more noticeable

>>61155438
>why are pot smokers so fucking annoying
Tell me about it. I personally only vaporize my weed.

Anyone know where I can get a white FC660M with blue switches? Every site I've checked either has blue switches (but only black or navy) or brown/red switches (when the color is white).

Only site I can find them in stock is leopold.co.kr - maybe I'll just have to get a shipping forwarder

>>61154601
>>61155107
it's MUCH easier to get a 1.75u shift than an extra 2.25u shift (unless you want to buy two of the same keycap set), and the leopold still has a 1u bottom row key so the leopold isn't easier in that regard anyway. most recent high end sets come with 1.75u shift and 1u bottom row keys and you can get them separately like enjoypbt RGBK/CMYK

>>61155285
>>61155299
Perhaps my memory is mixed up.
Well, I suppose I will go with a Cherry MX blue and swap the springs.

>>61155338
you can take the numpad 123 keys

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Does anybody have experience with MOD-M tactile switches? What's the quality and consistency like? they feel pretty damn good.

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>>61155555
>checked

Why I should not fall in the ortholinear meme?

>>61155188
the tada68 already comes with enjoypbt keycaps in the first place, that's one of the biggest reasons why it's a good bang for the buck, but for example you can use the keycap sets made for 75%/84 key layouts too

>>61155708
for non-split layouts it's just fucking retarded

>>61155708
Shit ergonomics

>>61155808
Why?

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How do you attach switches to a PCB in pic related? Do you just like drop them in? Do they have to be soldered? Do you have to run wires?
I've seen switches that come with little tubes that go into those holes so that you can swap the switches around, is that the easiest way to do it?
Looking at aliexpress it seems that the GH60 PCB is not only cheap but very expandable because you can buy different cases(aluminum, wood, steel, plastic) down the road, wide keycap compatability(my keyboard has a fucking 5.5u spacebar kill me), removable cable, you can have different switches for the modifiers than the keys, etc, etc. Seems like the perfect place to start.

>>61155708
Why should you fall into the ortholinear at the first place?

>>61155832
Your put the switches in the corresponding steel plate and you present the PCB.
Then just solder.

>>61154936
Fair point, but
>Also that 55g is a noticable difference from 50g. It is very close to blacks which are 60g at that point.
is very much up to personal preference, and not a flaw. Also, blacks are fucking linears, aren't greens the proper comparison here?

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>>61155819
you're not supposed to hold your hands like this. the keyboard should only be ortholinear or vertically staggered if it's made so you can have your hands at an angle or further apart.

>>61155708
You shouldn't, go for it.

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see, you hold it like this, so if you have a normal "fused" layout it should be staggered not ortholinear

>>61155886
This. Get an ergodox/keyboardio/one of the split olkb memes/build your own.

>>61155886
>>61155924
Understood. Thank you.

>>61155939
By the way, even something like TypeMatrix is good, as the key islands are placed far enough apart (with the utility keys in the middle) that your wrists end up pretty straight. Of course it's a rubberdome so in reality it's shit for typing.

And if you wanna go absolute full meme there are also the curved keyboards, like the kinesis advantage (which costs a small fortune) and the Dactyl (which you have to 3D print and handwire yourself). From what I've seen they're actually pretty good, shame they're so hard to acquire. Building a Dactyl is more or less my eventual goal.

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>>61155165
Thanks for informing me about the pipe, I couldn't have ignored it otherwise.

now get a proper glass piece faggot

>>61155850
>steel plate
Depends on whether the switches/board is PCB or plate mounted.
For PCB mounted, you just push them into the PCB and solder.
Same for plate, but put them into the plate first.

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>>61155696
bamp

>>61155696
overpriced memes. Worse then Zealios because Zealios at least feel good.

Why is the Logitech G910 Orion Spark the best high-end Mechanical keyboard on the market?

>>61156692
>Zealcuck

>>61157097
Because it has fantastic romer-g switches

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>>61157215
>fantastic
HAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>61157215
Enjoy your ping sound.

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>>61157285
>>61157291
>reply to bait with bait
>nobody else replies to the original bait
>people fall for my bait instead
Poettery

Logitech G413

how easy is it to relube a plate mounted board?
i got a well used kul and some keys are starting to squeak and one is sticky, from when i spilled cola on it 2 years ago
i cleaned it up alright, but now i guess the lubrication is starting to go

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>>61157573
Fuck me I forgot the pic

>>61157573
>no on-board memory

>>61156064
hey my tada68 is acting up, it does weird shit like make all the keys do random shit and make my mouse unable to function
and my windows start doing weird shit like opening new windows instead of tabs
you are the only other person i know with a tada besides rebbit

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>>61157614
I think I remember having something of the sort happen, but I'm not sure. I did have issues when gta 5 was open in the background, but other than that it has been working pretty fine.

Try reflashing the firmware, from what I remember, reflashing the firmware fixed those issues that I remember possibly having.

>>61157668
is that just going on the the chinese flash app thing and redoing the layer stuff?
or is the firmware something else?

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>>61157393
>Classic "I was pretending like a retard"

>>61157606
Whats the pokeball thing?

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>>61157698
>is that just going on the the chinese flash app thing and redoing the layer stuff?
yeah, that thing

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>>61157723
alright thanks for the help m8

>>61157723
Buckling Springs are unironically the best keyboard. Hands down. They are just that damn comfy.

>>61157812
i got the unicomp ultra classic
its nice to type but the fact that i cant change the caps lock and control and stuff like that made me shelve it
its so nice to type on though

>>61157967
I heard that the recent unicomps allow to change the keycaps.
>>61157812
It's a shame that the only useable version is a overpriced meme. I really want NKRO with buckling springs.

>>61158016
the functions themselves not the keycaps
the first unicomp i got from massdrop had 2 layered keys so you could take the top off and switch them around
the keyboard was all broken and the second one i got didnt have that anymore so you are right its probably a new thing

>>61153201
I didn't bother with the software since I'm afraid of Chinese botnets.

>>61155912
Man I want an ergodox so much, but I don't feel like dropping so much right now. Are there any decently priced split mechanical? I'm so sick of my hands being awkward angled in to type

>>61158016
>It's a shame that the only useable version is a overpriced meme. I really want NKRO with buckling springs.
With any luck the Chinese will make Model F clones due to some guy pouring his own money into making the equipment.

>>61158157
>industrial spying benefiting us
Good.

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>>61158016
Get a converter for 30 bucks, or build one yourself

>>61157719
A pocket watch necklace

>>61150611
that is whites you're probably thinking of

>>61147110
>razer ornata
Overpriced rubber domes

Anyone have a Mistel Barocco? Like the price point and the split design, but want to hear from anyone who may know more about it than I do

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>>61158516

>>61158516
Well its made by Ducky so its not like a no name brand

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>>61158215
Link pls or instructions pls?

>>61158215
>and buy a overused, old as fuck keyboard with a strange layout, that you aren't sure if will work, for kike tier prices in eBay too.

>>61158678
The model M isnt that weird of a layout. Sure its missing windows keys, but who cares.
>>61158646
Build it yourself since its more fun that way
https://geekwhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0

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>>61156692
>>61155696
>overpriced
>cost less than Zealios
>more tactile than Zealios

Ignore the Redditor, Mod-Ms are the best switch I've used. They're noticeably more tactile, but a bit scratchier. They have more key wobble than Zealios, if you're bothered by that (not really noticeable with Cherry profile). A lot of people say they feel like 45g Topre.

I used pic related on my switches and now their scratchiness is gone. You should at least get a switch tester to see if you like them.

>>61158516
impossible to replace the spacebars

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>>61155696
>>61156692

>>61159482
>browns is useless shit
Stop reading here.

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Should I clean it and buy some keycaps to replace the missing ones or is it complete shit and should rot and die?

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>>61159668
Back

Also,
It's not as dirty as when I got it though, I just cleaned the numpad part.

>>61159668
Model Ms are some of the best keyboards out there. Since you're in the UK replacement keycaps will be pricier then the US.

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I built a $1,400 USD rig and only spent $10 USD on the keyboard and mouse combo (devastator ii cherry).

Will I come to regret this? It's pretty good so far. I like the LED.

my gf just bought a mechanical keyboard, how fucked am I?

>>61159805
That looks like shit. Should've gotten a tomoko for 30 bucks and logitech g403 for another 30

>>61159749
I'm not in the UK, I'm in Argentina which is even harder to get keycaps, but I can get them from clickykeyboards or ebay

>>61159884
Where can you buy a new logitech g403 for $30 USD?

More like $35 + $55. $90 vs $10 my ass.

>>61159955
Get them from Unicomp since they still make new model Ms

>>61159805
Keyboard is okay, mouse is meh.
Better go with Masterkeys lite combo instead, better mouse and with RGB.

>>61159527
it's specifically cherry mx brown. most people agree that gateron brown is superior

>>61159884
> tomoko for 30 bucks
Why are people still buying this garbage? Shell a bit more cash and buy actual cherry mx or gateron switches. Christ

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>>61159806
for herself? you need to out-meme her to show who wears the pants in your relationship

>>61160564
>gateron brown is superior
Subjective. It all came down to personal preference.

>>61160868
? It actually is though and there is a clear definition what browns should be. Tactile and smooth. Gaterons fill both areas and are 50% more tactile then cherry mx browns and smoorther.

>Budget
$80
>Location
USA USA
>Preferred switch type
Gateron Browns
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
TKL
>Backlight
idc
>Previous/current keyboards
Turtle Beach impact 500


Someone just recommend me something besides a James Donkey pls.

>>61160922
What browns should be is your expectation.

What's a good backlit TKL Gateron Brown keyboard under $100?

>>61161010
>>61160999
Are you the fucking same person?
James Donkey, Rantopad mxx, Z-77 with swappable switches and buying gateron brown switches.

>>61161048
Are those the only options? I don't like keyboards that go outside the plate.

>>61161010
plum87
tada68 (not tkl but pretty good and it comes with great keycaps)

>>61161060
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LINGBAO-JSH-Backlit-Computer-Gaming-Emitting-9Led-Light-Modes-Mechanical-Keyboard-Black-Blue-Switches-Metal-Panels/32734886333.html

>>61161178
That goes outside the plate and doesn't have brown switches.
>>61161104
unless you are seeing them at a discount, those 2 are well above 80 dollars.

YMDK has been stepping up their game

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fast-Free-shipping-Customized-YMD75-84-Full-Kit-CNC-Aluminum-Case-PCB-Plate-Switches-Underglow-RGB/32812690592.html

same as KBD75 but you can get it with keycaps and with cherry switches

>>61159805
If you're a casual, then it doesn't really matter. I got into mechanical keyboards so I can improve my shitposts per second.

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>>61155749
>NPKC Cherry Profile Thick PBT
>$24

>>61161571
so i just got the ducky one cherry mx browns. i'm typing this out and desu it doesn't even feel that great? i switched from my 12 dollar logitech k120. did i get memed by /g/? or will it take some time to learn to love this thing? it definitely has a lower activation force so i could see that reducing strain when i type for extended periods of time.

>>61161048
Thanks. Just bought the Rantopad MXX.

>>61161866
>/g/ constantly tells retards not to get Browns
>retard buys it anyway
>retard complains it feels like shit

Gee, I dunno, retard. It's a mystery for the ages.

>>61161866
no shit they dont feel great, they're cherry browns.

>>61157393
My original post was not bait.

>>61159482
I don't see the Romer-G switch on this chart.

>>61162026
The gateron browns are good though, right?

Why are cherry blue so fucking good?
They have just the perfect amount of spring, and push back at you just right.
I've tried a ton of other switches recently, and none of them can compare.
Blue or bust.