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>How to request purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

>Previous thread:
>>51589373
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What is that earbuds headphones you guys are always posting? im looking to get some earbuds
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>>51602187
Xiaomi Piston 2/3 if you're a poorfag that wants some decent earphones
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I have an 02 Headphone amplifier but my m50x doesn't really need it. Reccommend me a headphone that will benefit from 02 amplification and actually sounds much better than m50x.

Hifiman?
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>>51602217
also, needs to be closed
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i mean, with the numbers on the element, i cant see why it wouldnt be better than the o2+odac. and it's so close in price
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>>51602262
Because it measures worse.
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>>51602278
Does it really? I'd be very interested to see measurements of it.
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>>51601317
I mean how the headphones don't really sound like they have a purpose.

they just show a bunch of detail but don't really roll it into a package, if you follow.

I haven't found any music which they really shine, they just sound decent with all music, nothing that really goes WOW. Where as sennheiser has a really smooth sound.

Still like them but I tend to mainly use them for gaming not music listening.
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>>51602383
http://superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/measurements-mid-fi-dac-amp-comb-units-grace-schiit-ifi-lh-jds-etc.427/
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>>51602217
AKG K340
Audeze LCD-XC
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>>51602397
Didn't he have issues in eliminating sources of error in measurement?
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>>51602217
anything thats under 32ohm impedance don't need it.

I would grab some AKGs if you wanna justify your purchase that badly.
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>>51602542
>Audeze LCD-XC
no

>>51602397
Measurements look good. Not O2 good but good. Something that will be completely transparent. Element has crazy power figures and the design seems pretty nice, too. Seems like a solid product to me.

>>51602644
>anything thats under 32ohm impedance don't need it.
Anything under 32ohms generally wont need much voltage at all but some models will want heaps of current and will be susceptible to damping issues.
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i found the earbuds i was trying to find.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004PNZFZ8/ref=psdc_172541_t1_B00FYZSTVS

ive seen you guys talk about how its good sound quality for its price range. the only other thing i wanted to know is if its also good for gym workout/ running. will it stay in my ears or fall out?
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>>51602602
The Grace just came with a bad cable. Cables might be a meme in perceivable terms but when it comes to these kinds of measurements they do make a visible difference.
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>>51602687
I doubt you're going to find a high end headphone that has 32ohm or less impedance.

99& will be more, so my point stands.
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Question
where can I get a braided/sleeved cable for HD600s.

I don't want an expensive "audiophile grade" cable, I just want a sleeved cable to replace the shittty thin rubber one that came with it, not because I want to eliminate phantom noises or what ever audiophiles these days claim.
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>>51602699
those are garbage

no good for working out either
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>>51602706
LCD-X is only 20 ohm though,
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>>51602706
What the fuck does high impedance have to do with needing an amp, kill yourself retard.

>I doubt you're going to find a high end headphone that has 32ohm or less impedance.
>LCD-X
>HE-1000 is 35ohm
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>>51602748

then what should i get if i want the following attributes for earbuds? :

not terribly uncomfortable
decent quality sound
decent non sound leak and decent isolation
gym/running: wont break from sweat / wont fall out

50$-100$ price range
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>>51602768
>>51602777
both of those are orthodynamic, which need an AMP no mater what.

I'm talking about dynamic headphones here, people asking for advice on headphones are not likely to be buying expensive ortho headphones.

calm your autism batman.
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>>51602810
Refer to http://benchmarkmedia.com/blogs/application_notes/14017381-headphone-impedance-and-sensitivity and stop running your uneducated mouth like you know anything.

The more you spread this misinformation, the more retards out there will become what you are. I wonder if this is how the audiophile community was born as a whole? Misinformation spreading like wildfire.
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Should I "mod" my Sennheiser 558 into 598?
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>>51602855
Just do it. If you didn't like it, you can always go back.
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>>51602798
You shouldn't run or walk with earbuds in. I run 25 miles a week here. You always need to be alert, whether for a vehicle or a dog. Otherwise...well...you'll find out.
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>>51602885
How likely am I to screw up?
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>>51602900
That's exactly the purpose where earbuds shine but IEMs suck assuming you run in a city. Earbuds don't isolate thus you can still be moderately aware of your surroundings even while running and listening to music.
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>>51602901
Depends on how much sphagetti you can be. It just removing some foam and put it back if you don't like it.
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I dont know how to greentext im a faggit i know.

Budget: 50$-100$

Source: Phone or Fiio X1

Preference: Earbuds

Comfort: Decent

Sound quality: Decent to good

Preferred music: all types so balanced would be ideal, but its ok if it has a favor towards bass.

Additional: would like decent sound isolation

decent non sound leak

wont break from sweat

wont fall out during run/gym
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>>51602217
k612, k240 monitor
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>>51602900
or you can just use shallow-fit IEMs and not blast music. wearing a piston 3 is like wearing open headphones in terms of isolation.
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Akg 7xx or 400i? 200 vs $300.
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>>51602700
>when it comes to these kinds of measurements they do make a visible difference
Ferrites make a bit of difference, only if EMI was causing a problem, power supply rejection not high enough.

>>51602810
>orthodynamic, which need an AMP no mater
You need to have absolutely nothing, because there are all sorts of voltage sources that people have.
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>>51603654
400i, and get it while you can, it's usually much more.
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>>51603732
Thanks. Would you happen to know if an o2/dac would fare well with the 400i? Worried that it might come off too bright and fatiguing
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>>51603880
>amp/headphone synergy
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do cyber monday sales drastically affect the price of m50x's ever?
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I'm on a fairly tight budget, is there a good amp/dac that is below £100?
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>>51603880
any amp that isn't super weak will be fine. you could probably go straight from desktop. o2 is the most I would spend.
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>>51603973
well if they regurgitate sales from friday, yes.

>>51604128
fiio e10k. though you could probably just go straight amp and get like an o2 or magni and use line out from your pc.
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>>51602133
SMSL SD793-II

is it worth it
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>>51604535
Depends on what you mean by 'worth it'
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>>51604548
i want a headphone amp that can switch between two inputs
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>Budget
<200 NZD

>Location
NZ, willing to buy through Amazon.com as long as the price is good, and of course it has to ship here

>Source
Phone and PC

>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized

>Open or closed
Willing to consider both

>Comfort level
Comfy enough

>Preferred tonal balance
Accurate and detailed sound. However something that makes vocals and highs sound amazing would be nice, but like I said I like separation/detail that immerses me into the music. I don't like narrow sound that makes my ears fatigue.

>Preferred music
I listen to pop, synthpop, hip hop, alt, indie, sometimes EDM/house

>Past headphones
ATHPro5Mk2 and Sennheiser CX-300 II iems
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>>51603911
You mean all those guys over at head-fi were lying and that amps are just a placebo?
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Is Zeos a meme, /hpg/?
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>>51604580
Go for it, if you have coaxial digital and toslink.
The amp is much more powerful than the O2.

>>51605048
No, they weren't lying. They were saying what they're deluded into thinking is truth.
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>>51605244
The specs don't seem to indicate that, a much weaker amplifier, although the specs are contradictory.
>Rated output: 1.7VPP
>Earphone output power: 65mW @ 16Ω; 130mW @ 32Ω
>Headphone output distortion: 0.01% THD + N _AT_ 100mW/32Ω

>>51605053
>Zeos a meme
Why would you listen to him to start with?
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Senn HD558 or AT M50x?
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>>51605617
I dunno what to tell you man, on my 250ohm Beyers I could get to an adequate listening level at like 2 o'clock on the knob while I can push the O2 all the way with high gain on and still not be uncomfortable.
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>About to get first pair of decent headphones in the mail tomorrow
>Only ever had shitty offbrand or cheap $20 sony/skullcandy headphones

I'm excited.
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>>51605617
what actually is the rated output? Do they mean line out? because the headphone output is greater than the rated output.
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>>51602133
so i bought a superlux evo 681 from a senn hd 201 and im hearing all kinds of shit icouldnt hear before and it feels weird as fuck

am i going to get used to it or is there some shit wrong with my headphones/config
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>>51605642
How is your O2 setup configured?

>>51605671
I have no idea which one is correct, or even if any of them are correct.

1.7 VPP is 0.6 Vrms. Not a typical voltage for anything.
130mW into 32 ohms makes for about 2.04 volts. That would be a normal voltage for modern day line out (typical CD player/DAC voltage), but it isn't being used that way. It has half the current output of Objective 2 as such. It may be current limited into that load, but the specs are not helping.
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>>51605649
Nice what are you getting? I'm in the same boat. Have a crappy Phillips $30 headphones for the past few years and jumping onto the 400i's. Pretty hyped.
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>>51605783
It was a combo unit with the (headnhifi) standard 1x and 3x gain.
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>>51602810
Amperior superior is 18 ohm:^)
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>Budget
About 150 USD

>Location
USA

>Source
Computer, maybe phone? (Galaxy S5)

>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Enough to where I can wear them for 7-8 hours a day without being bothered.

>Preferred tonal balance

>Preferred music
Metal

>Past headphones
Turtle Beach X12 and PX22, like both of them because of thier comfort, and I thought the sound quality was good. The bass and treble control on the PX22's was a nice touch.
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>>51605830
m40x
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HVLUR54?*Version*=1&*entries*=0
y/n? I really like flat ones so this might be what i want.
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>>51606108
audio technica mx50 or the a9000xxx something but this is just my opinion
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>ordered the HD598 on black friday

>people leaving reviews en mass screaming about how they are getting fakes from the black friday sale
>start reading more reviews about how they're NOBASS

getting rly fucking worried now desu if only my ath m50's were capable of being worn for more than 30 minutes without making my ears burn and bleed in extreme pain and give me a headache
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>>51606927
It's gonna be even more jarring for you since the M50 are niggerbass. You're basically going from one extreme to the other.
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>>51602644
>anything thats under 32ohm impedance don't need it.
Low impedance balanced armatures need it
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>>51602706
Any meme IEM
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Looking for good closed back headphones. How's a DT770 as an upgrade to the M50x?
If I'm going to buy an amp (laptop's headphone jack broke), should I get the higher impedance version?
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>>51606942
beats would be extreme
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>>51602736
If you don't want le snakeoil you will have to build your own, or get someone to build it for you
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/hpg/ official opinion on burn in?

http://strawpoll.me/6139770
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>>51607008
Not even that much more than the M50.
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>>51607082
Have you listened to both?
Beats is niggerbass, M50 is just bass.
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>>51607077
Anyone voting in favor of burn-in shouldn't be here.
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>>51606982
of course you idiot
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>>51607097
M50 is niggerbass as well. Solo2 is measurably superior to the M50 anyway.
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>>51607111
Just to the impedance, or to the DT770s too
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>>51607116
>beats
>good

stop
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>>51607156
Never said they were, they're just better than the M50.
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>>51607156
>m50s
>good
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>M50s are good
>M50s are bad
They're memephones alright, but which one of these is the meme?
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>>51607188
"M50s are good" is the meme perpetuated by Redditors.
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>>51607202
It was the meme being perpetuated by /g/ a couple years ago.
Will you memers ever make up your minds?
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>>51607249
When they were $80 sure. Reddit caught on late and still perpetuate it to this day.
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>>51607256
>price affects the quality of a headphone
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>>51607256
they were never 80$ lmao
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>>51607268
More like you can't complain about the shit quality of them at that price. Or you couldn't before, there are better options at those pricepoints now.
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>>51607268
is this guy retarded?
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>>51607256
>>51607249
>>51607202
>>51607188
They are the official headphones of /g/ after all.
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>>51607276
They were in 2009 lmao kys newfag
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>>51607283
List me a couple, I'm looking for new headphones
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>>51607276
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>>51607305
M40x, Takstar Pro80, NVX XPT100
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>>51607314
dude MEMES LOL
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>>51607323
lol good damage control
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>>51607323
XD
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>>51607338
>>51607343
>post dank maymays
>get called out on it

>LOL U SUCK

k
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>>51607355
Weakest damage control I've ever seen.
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>>51607355
haha u 2 bro
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n-nice thread
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>>51604583
get emfiddys from rubber monkey
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>>51607402
fug disregard that the price has gone up $100 since i bought mine for 180
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>>51607426
>paid $180nzd for m50
LOL could have gotten the brainwavz hm5 rebrand from jaycar for $100 which is infinitely more comfy and better sounding than those memes
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Brainwavz HM5 is as same as NVX XPT 100 right?
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>>51602855
Nah, the edgy look of the HD598 is worth the extra money, moreover the foam doesn't make HD558 magically as good as HD598 in every asepct. Also be careful to not mess anything up, or you'll have to throw your jewel into the toilet
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hit me up with some of them sick cyber monday deals /hpg/
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>>51608388
>moreover the foam doesn't make HD558 magically as good as HD598 in every asepct
Yeah it does since it's the same enclosure and the same driver.
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>>51608515
Well, if you want alternative Beats, just noticed that Phiaton is selling the discontinued MS400 on Amazon for $79, which is pretty much a clearance sale price.
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>>51608737
Looks disgusting

>>51607471
Yes
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Hey the cabling on my DT770s is nearly tearing out of the headphones, through the strain relief.
I'm gonna do a detachable cable mod.
4-pin Mini-XLR to 3.5mm

What kind of autist placebo cabling should I buy? I hear that silver stuff is pretty popular. Gauge? Should I get some of that fancy Quad-Eutectic silver solder or whatever the hell?
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>>51609325
I suppose I could also just reuse the old cable and do the Mini-XLR thing anyway.
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If someone here had urage xplode headset(not the blue and black evo) can i get recommendation for headphones with the same lows.I also have evo 681 but they feel underwhelming.
50$-100$ price range
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>>51605833
Wait you can use 3x gain with volume knob past 12 o'clock on O2 + ODAC combo using 250 Ohm Beyers? System volume maxed right? That sounds crazy, it's 6Vrms.
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>>51607077
Placebo works. That doesn't mean burn in isn't bullshit. It's not even an opinion, it just doesn't happen.

>>51607156
Solo 2 sure is. Better than M50X at least. Too bad it's ugly and on ear.

>>51607188
They are ok if you want a bassy foldable closed back headphone. Pretty average for the price. There are better headphones to be had for cheaper prices such as M40X.
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>>51610556
System volume was at 90%. I can max out the Benchmark's HPA2 as well with 100% system volume, it doesn't really seem to get any louder past 3 o'clock. Also changed the jumper for 0dB on the headphone amps instead of default -10dB.
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>>51610620
It might help to add that I have -3.5dB on my EQ settings and am using per-track Replaygain on foobar.
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>>51610711
> not setting replaygain off
Lel
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>>51608520
Kimochiwarui desu yo, senpai
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>>51610750
Why would I?
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>>51610760
why even try though, weeaboo
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>>51610811
Because it's hi-fi
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>>51610915
I don't follow.
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>>51610928
Don't worry, I didn't expect you to follow me anyways.
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>>51610954
Since replaygain has no negative impact on sound quality I see no reason not to use it.
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>Budget
$150 total budget, need 2 headphones.
>Location
New York
>Source
Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Being used for streaming Smash, commentator headphones
>Past headphones
Null
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>>51611140
I'm using these headphones for commentators at the local tourney I host btw.
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I just got my Superflux HD 681 Evo and damn, they're huge but I think I will get used to them.

Should I put the velour pads on?
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>>51611140
MDR-V6 is still cheap on amazon
>>
AKG K451 or Sony MDR-V55?
For mobile use in train/bus mainly
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>>51611196
They are poo and not even that huge. You should return/sell them.
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How are the MDR7510s? I planned on snagging them since I missed out on the V6s on Friday, but now that Amazon's got the latter back up on sale....

BTW, I already grabbed the 598s, and wanted a closed set.
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>>51611457
Maybe for your artificial standards.
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>tfw fell for the hd598 meme
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>>51611336
thanks bro
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Why do some Flac files sound so bad? Especially when their bitrate is less than 600kbps...what errors may occur when a CD is ripped to Flac?
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>>51611543
> tfw fell for HD558 = HD598 meme
> tfw fell for Sennheiser
> mfw I own a superior Fidelio X2
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>>51611196
HUGE?I have to wear them like cyclops or they feel uncomfortable but sure they weight a lot.
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>>51611600
I guess my head is small. I come from a V55 which felt quite a bit smaller than this, especially since they were on ear.
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>>51611486
Nope it's the Superlux you should avoid.
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>>51611420
>>51611642
pls respond
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>>51611666
I don't know the AKGs but the Sony were good, no complaints. The former seem a bit too small for my tastes, up to you whether you want mini or standard sized headphones. Consider the new v6 maybe.
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>>51610195
Nobody?
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>>51611666
>>51611666
AKG because it's more prestigious
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>>51611754
>new v6
What do you mean?
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>>51611486
>>51611653
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>>51611773
The new model, Sony MDR v6.
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Someone has the under 100$ guide or pastebin?
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>>51612113
Check wiki.
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Fairly neutral headphones.
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>>51612261
I'm kinda dense and I only could find IEM's guide. Someone know where can I find earbuds? For desktop mainly. Thanks
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>>51612307
Consensus in this place is earbud are trash, get some apple earbuds if you're insist. Or buy some cheap earbud like ve monk.
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>>51612331
Excuse me, I'm seriously brain damaged. I meant to say "headphones", sorry.
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>>51612343
Looks like it was rewritten due to some bias. Just fill the request purchase advice form, I guess.
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>>51612435
Here it goes:

>Budget
from 20€-60€

>Location
Spain

>Source
Desktop PC, sometimes portable, will using in the street

>Preferred type of headphone
Nothing concrete. Over or hugging the ear mostly

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
7/10 or higher, my actual headphone hurts my ear

>Preferred music
Death Metal mostly, and other variants. Sometimes Drumm and bass, but mostly Metal and harder

>Past headphones
Philips SHC8535 Wireless Headphone or kinda close to them, I can't remember it right.
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>>51605629
Open-back or Closed-back
pick you poison.
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>>51605731
HD201 is muddy and veiled as hell, take your time with the evo and you will get used to it.
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>>51612605
Takstar pro80.
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are the ATH-M50x better than the Sony MDRV6?

Also unless someone knows of better closed back headphones in that price range looking for some cyber Monday shit deals

Thanks in advanced nerds
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>>51612662
Sorry, but I would like to stick to the maximun budget of 60€. They're like 77$ here.
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>>51612697
Well, I don't know whats available in your place. How about sony mdr v6? I hear it was on discount now.
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>>51612724
Where are the mdrv6 on sale?
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I would like somebody to perform frequency response, distortion, and other such tests on a brand new pair of headphones and compare to a "burnt-in" pair of the same model
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>>51612724
They're available on US, and looks like they ship to Spain. Am I right? I checked but I never shopped into amazon US. Looks great and covers my budget.
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So, what is the best way to lower volume without losing quality?

In foobar for example, should I always keep the music at 0.00dB, does it lose quality if I lower it? Or should I lower volume in the OS settings? My headphones are currently on "75" in the OS.
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>>51612757
It's a great headphone and have a great durability. I've see the review of its headphone going for years and still kicking.
>>51612741
This image pretty much explain it. Keep in mind that it was burnt-in for 500 hours. Basically the really really slight change are caused by thinned pads.
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>>51612677
Nerds pls respond
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>>51612677
No but still depends on what you want. M50X are bassy whereas the Sony is quite neutral. M40X would be a better option from Audio-Technica. It's fairly neutral and cheaper than M50X.
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Hey /g/, Is the Grado Labs SR 125 good?
Whats the difference between the Sr80 , sr125 and sr225
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>>51613048
Grado is not good.
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>>51613024
Wouldn't the m40s be objectively worse than the m50?

Also I live in Canada so the m50 is on sale for 170 and the Sonymv6 is 200 dollars unless I order it from the states which is 50 US but that will come to 63 Canadian plus shipping plus duties and taxes so I'm not sure what's a better deal
Also the Sony says it usually ships in 3-5 weeks which is long as fuck
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I'm looking for a pair of over-ear headphones to use while watching movies with a VR headset. I'd also use them for music and games.

Are NVX Audio XPT100 a good buy? They look pretty comfortable. I'd be willing to go up to around $150, but don't want to spend extra money if I don't have to. Also, don't really want ones that are over bass-heavy.
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>>51613134
Never mind sony won't even ship it here kek
But for real the m40x and m50x the only difference is m40 is more flat and less
Bassy?
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>>51613134
>Wouldn't the m40s be objectively worse than the m50?
No, the opposite. You'd wish audio gear scaled upwards with the price like that.
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>>51611576
>>mfw not falling for other memephones
>>mfw falling for best allround openback memphone Fidelio x2
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>>51613368
What how does that make any sense
Are you sure about this?
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Are the akg m220 on mass drop any good, they look nice enough but I haven't found anything that is giving me a difinitve answer regarding sound.
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>>51613547
I mean that good audio gear is scattered around different price points. I don't know a single manufacturer where audio gear would just get better and better the more you paid. There's always a bad model somewhere in the lineup or the highest end ones are just shit you shouldn't ever bother with, offering less for more money in a lot of cases. Better just to check some measurements to see how the products actually perform. Here's M40X vs M50X:

http://ko.goldenears.net/board/5322081
http://ko.goldenears.net/board/5705574

M40X is the better measuring one. Being cheaper I don't even consider M50X an option between the two.
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Are the AKG K7XX and the AKG K702 the same headphones?
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>>51613631
no
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>>51602133
I bought a sennheiser HD598 for €99 on a sale

Did I do good /hpg/?
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>>51613608
Okay thanks I think I'll go with the m40 then seeing how my options are limited for good prices headphones in Canada
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DT880 edition/premium vs. k612 pro vs. hd598, which wins (best bang/buck)?
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so, can someone please explain, why making a neutral headphone is still to this day so difficult? why dont we have ruler flat fr all the way across already? technology seems to be doing some crazy things, but our drivers are still all something to think about???? what makes it so hard?
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>>51613642
>>51611543
get memed on
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>>51613681
DT880 and K612 > HD598
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>>51613638
What makes them different?
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>>51613686
Ok cool story man

The question is if I did good for €99, not if it equals his usual resale value
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>>51613681
598. k612 needs a powerful amp and dt880 has ear-rape treble.
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>>51608388
Are u some kind of paid shitheiser shill ?
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>>51613664
How much does the MDR-7506 cost over there?

>>51613682
I suspect there are difficulties balancing the frequencies. Idk about the technical part, but having listened to a few mid range cans my opinion is the best is the one that suits your ears and perfection is impossible
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>Open back headphones

Fucking NEETs
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>>51613713
sure, it's a good deal
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>>51613701
>>51613742
I currently have the K612 pro here and have ordered a DT880 edition/premium 250ohm which should arrive in a few days. I'm just wondering if I should even take the HD598 into consideration, as the HD600 or 650 is very expensive in Germany at the moment.
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>>51613784
>How much does the MDR-7506 cost over there?
170

The m40 is 120 dollars
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>>51613827
i wouldn't, in my opinion HD600 >= DT880=K612 > HD598.
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>>51613813
Also called home use. Are speakers NEET too?
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Guys, my onboard audio fucks up the microphone (Antlion modmic 4.0) audio quality with noise and shit. The usual green audio jack seems to be working perfect but the mic input is fucked. I've tried many things such as reinstalling Realtek drivers/even Windows but it didn't help. The mic works flawlessly on other machines. What do? I bought a several $3 external audiocards but they didn't do shit except making my voice flat and rougher. Maybe buy a more expensive audiocard? I can live with this noise in the background but it just bothers me since I'm an autist.
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Hey /g/ In your opinion, what are the best headphones under 175usd
(preferably open back)
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>>51613813 (you)
here's your reply
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>>51613895
So then just getspeakers
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>>51613982
Are they that bad? Never tried and am interested
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does hd 598 have any bass?
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why not k702? seems just as good if not even slightly better.
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>>51614163
People here prefer AKG K7XX because of more bass, however K702 doesn't seem that bad looking at this graph. K702 are sold for 175€ on Amazon where I live
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>>51614163
Inconsistent fit which affects seal and bass leakage.

The upper midrange sounds retarded.

I don't think AKG K702 are good headphones. K7XX and K712 are better and more consistent options since they use earpads that seal better.
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>>51613999
Already have and I prefer headphones when I'm on my computer.
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>>51614158
if you're buying senns for bass you're doing it wrong
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>>51614158
Yes, it's audible
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>>51607188
decent, but overpriced and overstated by people with limited experience who have limited experience with decent headphones.
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>>51614252
what about the k612? does it seal better as well? bass-wise, is it similar to the dt880?
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>>51614158

Sub-bass is a bit rolled off, but it has bass, fairly accurate bass, maybe a bit too much gain in the lower midrange.
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>>51614292
Same problem as the K702, with an ideal seal bass output is roughly the same as the DT880, though the DT880 might have better bass extension to 20Hz by a couple of decibels the difference won't be heard in music.
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>>51614163
First, don't use smoothing.
Second, I don't know how representative any of these graphs are of K702/K701.

>>51614292
>does it seal better as well?
Maybe not, probably not.
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>>51614340
>>51614370
interesting, how about the rest of the signature, how does the k612 compared to the DT880?
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>>51602133
I got some Shure SE315-K's last year and they are pretty awesome, only problem with them is the cable they come with, its huge and heavy and sucks. so i got a $15 replacement off ebay and they work perfect, super comfortable easy to fall asleep in too.
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>>51614396
K612 has better midrange and treble in my opinion. The DT880 is bright and to some it can sound like it lack upper mids a bit.

Only con about the K612 is that 2kHz is a bit hot and its susceptibility to bass leakage, based on the inconsistency of the K612, I'd rate the DT880 as the better headphone.

K612 is also quite inefficient.
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>Budget
€100/€150
>Location
Shitaly
>Source
Smartphone
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
Closed
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't know
>Preferred music
Dad rock
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>>51614252
im sure with a bigger head, getting a good seal will be less of a problem.
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>>51614256
Because youre a neet
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>Budget
$150-200 (US)
>Source
Computer and Xperia Z3v
>Type
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Preferred music
Stoner metal, bluegrass, jam bands

I have AKG K 240 MK II

Is there a better pair of headphones in my budget?
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>>51614829
not really
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>>51614829
In that price range there are some sidegrades worth buying, but no substantial upgrades.
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Is there anyone here who uses some custom cables on the X2? X2 modifications here maybe? Is there nice looking 3.5mm - 3.5mm custom cables here?
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>>51614941

What might you suggest?

I really like my AKG pair, any recommendations on a good amp for them?
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>>51614960
The X2 already have the nicest cable in the sub $1k market, I don't see why changing it.
The only modification you can do to the X2 is tieing a rubber band above the headband to improve its tensions, other than that they're pretty much perfect, on a build level.
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Got Fidelio X2 but i want more volume. Right now budget is 100$ but over time i can spend more. Should i go for Fiio E10K or buy now the Magni and then Modi (when i'll have more spare money)?
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Massdrop:
AKG K181 DJ UE

yay or nay?

Just for casual listening on a noisy train where fidelity wont be a major issue, where as noise cancellation is.
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>Budget
Up to $75
>Location
USA
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfort is preferred, when they're being used they'll be used for hours at a time.
>Past headphones
I had the Turtlebeach Ear Force X11 years ago, I liked how you could easily tell which direction a sound was coming from, and the over-ear design that made them fairly comfortable to wear. Disliked how they were made I guess, it just kinda fell apart through normal use after sometime. Haven't owned anything notable since then just cheap shit from stores that I picked up just because it was cheap. I'm definitely not looking for a headset even though the only thing of note that I owned was one.
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So, are the X2s still the best open back Headphones in their price range?
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>>51615298
yup
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>>51614772
yfw im posting from work?
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>>51615298
theyre wonderful. i just think they have a bit too much treble around 5.5k, so i have it down a few decibels with a peakfilter
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>>51615298
If you listen to many music genres, watch movies/tv series, and if a flat sound isn't what you absolutely want, then yes, they're amazing.
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>>51615034
The cable is to long because im sitting next to my amp and its sometimes curling around my chair and its really annoying... Optherwhise the cable is really nice !
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>>51615298
No, HD650, HD600 and DT880 are all better options.
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>>51615298
Yes, you cant get any better headphones.. I was testing the HD600 before testing the X2 and holy shit i just realized how music should be listened to!
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>>51615746

Yep, sennheiser fans are up here.
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>>51615298
>X2
no sub-bass, only boomy upper bass garbage
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>>51615778
Did Sennheiser make the DT880 you illiterate retard?
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>>51615779
And yet people love them. Checkmate Sennheiserists
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>>51615779

Haha, best bass ive heard from a open back headphone lol.. And ive tested HD600, HD650, HD700 and HD800. The X2 has a punchier bass.. and its tight ass hell!
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E10K or Magni 2?
Why?
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>>51615829
>>51615827
>>51615779
Checkmate Sennshills and Beyerkeks
X2 is really this good, despite what flat sound lovers say.
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Hi /hpg/, help an oldfag out, haven't had headphones for like 10 years, but I'm interested in getting a pair, is it that much of a difference music-wise? Also I recently picked up some gaming and I've read it's better for environment awareness. If you could help a lost soul out, I'd appreciate it. audio technica m50x any good? Other recommendations? I don't really have a fixed budget, but maybe 100 - 150€?
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Does someone have experience with iems and really small ear canals? I have been looking for decent iems for my wife but none of them fit well. I have a few pairs of them myself but only the smallest bud on the phones that came with my htc one fit her other ear with a little force and the other ear is even a bit smaller.
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>>51615892
Do you want a meh DAC and a meh amp or a just a decent amp.

If your current (onboard) DAC is sufficient you only need an amplifier and the Magni 2 is a better amplifier than the E10K.

>>51615915
Audio Technica M50x for bass and closed-back for use in public.
Sennheiser HD 558 for more neutral sound and better "environment awareness".
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>>51615746
>DT880
I'm the guy you replied to. My last pair of headphones were DT 770s and they broke after a month or two because the cable ripped from the headphones. I don't even know how it happened, because I made sure to take care of them, but it started to degrade really quickly for some reason. Either way, I'm staying away from beyer for now since I basically wasted 200$ or whatever I paid.
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>>51615972
Return them for a refund, duuuh.
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I'm new to this general, so no bully pls.
I was thinking of getting some new headphones for grav-mass, with a budget of €150 max. I listen almost exclusively to prog rock, but I do listen to some chiptunes and electronic music. I already have an amp (Sony TA-V11) and a DAC (Behringer UCA200). I listen to vinyl using an Ortofon OM10 cart. Since most of the music I listen to is from the '70s-'80s, I was thinking of getting a pair of Sony MDR-7506s. Are there any better headphones in that price range?
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>Budget
$120
>Location
USA
>Source
laptpo (x230t) and Galaxy S4
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
I would like to wear it for 2-3 hrs straight without any discomfort.
>Preferred music
I listen to mostly hip hop but I also listen to music that synthpop/dreampop/electronic or things that focuses on vocal
>Past heapdhones
I use Audio-Technica ATHCLR100BK earbuds and some $20 full size closed AKGs I got 4 years ago


The m50x is on sale for $117 but someone else said that the Sony MDRV6 is pretty much the same audio quality and it's $50 today.
Is the m40x a decent buy when compared to the m50x if the sony one are not good enough?

Is the difference in audio quality worth the ~$60 increase?
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>Budget
~$200-250
>Location
NA
>Source
Desktop computer, integrated soundcard I think
>Preferred type of headphone
Fullsized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Maximum comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
No real preference
>Past headphones
Sennheiser 555

help me brothers
Strongly considering a DT-880 or DT-990, seems like my best options but I don't know which to pick.
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>>51602133
R70x should be the new meme headphones.

They are the perfects headphones for people that think HD600 and HD650 are veiled and have less treble, and think that DT880s are too bright. These are the perfect middle.

Everyone should get these. Wow.
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>>51616066
Shiet, didn't look at the template.
>Budget
€150 max.
>Location
Sbane
>Source
UCA200 DAC/Ortofon OM10 + Sony TA-V11
>Preferred type of headphone
Don't care
>Open or closed
don't care
>Comfort level
Don't care
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral-bright
>Preferred music
Prog rock, electronic, chiptunes
>Past headphones
Koss PortaPro, Superlux HD668B
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>>51613705
3 dB bass boost.
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>>51616093
>Strongly considering a DT-880 or DT-990, seems like my best options but I don't know which to pick.
I like my DT 880 and it seems the DT 990 is too v-shaped.

>>51616155
The MDR-7506 are a decent classic and all, but why not save up and get something like DT 880, HD 600/650 or perhaps K612/K701? They are honestly not that far out of budget and you might find some within budget if you are willing to buy second hand.
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Are there any wireless headphones that aren't complete shit?
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>>51616216
MDR-1ADAC
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Who /leap/ here?
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>>51615972
how in the hell did you manage to rip off the cable?
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>>51616093
DT880 is less v-shape than the DT990, so if you want something closer to neutral you should probably go with the DT880.
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>>51616352
>>51616194

Thanks for the advice.
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Got Fidelio X2 but i want more volume. Right now budget is 100$ but over time i can spend more. Should i go for Fiio E10K or buy now the Magni and then Modi (when i'll have more spare money)?
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>>51616155
I recently bought the MDRs, the highs sure are great but mid-low end was kind of disappointing. But I think that's the best a 100€ pair can do anyway.
/2 cents

Sidenote: since I use them primarily for monitoring I'm happy with the results
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>>51616414
I guess that you should check your hearing before buying an amp
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>>51616132
R70X is clearly more veiled than any Sennheiser on the market but sure lad.
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>>51616525
This, they are almost Fidelio X2 levels of bass but without that shitty Fidelio X2 treble peak.

It's a bit veiled but it's really good.
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>>51616414
What kind of setup are you using if you don't get enough volume out of Fidelio X2?
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>>51616598
> shitty treble peak
le Senn-chan maymay XD
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>>51616432
yup, i'm probably getting deaf :(
>>51616625
connected to the rear headphone input of my asrock z68 extreme 3 gen 3
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>>51616657
kill yourself already. goddamn degenerate.

>>51616674
Are you running any DSP? System volume max right? Because those X2s are very efficient and should play loud enough to break your ears from almost any device you plug them into, especially a new motherboard. I kinda find it hard to believe that it's more volume you want.
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>>51615892

How about the Bravo audio V2? Heard its affordable and really good amp.
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>>51616723
no DSPs afaik and yes windows volume is at 100. i only lower the volume when i listen to a certain webradio because their volume is really high. otherwise i always try to increase it.
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>>51616322
I ultimately ripped it off. One day the cable got loose from something, I don't know to be honest. It kept getting worse over the next few weeks until the cable was barely fucking attacked, and some of the inner wires were fucked since they were exposed and more prone to damage. The warranty was over as far as I'm aware, so a few days later when it was hanging on by a thread I just severed the cable.
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so I have a thinkpad t420 as a source and the sound card is quite noticeably noisy (static) I'm getting akg q701s in the mail today & im looking for something that will sound better as a source but i dont really know where to start.... I also have a desktop but it needs some fixing. The only thing I can think of is fix desktop, install one of thos 30$ asus cards and hope its ok
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Does anyone have a recommendation for a pair of IEMs that are extremely durable? I enjoy listening to music/audiobooks while working, but so far my active job has been eating them alive.
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i dont get it. i just want a slightly warm but otherwise flat as fuck open headphone. dont even care about the price.
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>>51616811
Budget?
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>>51617076
HD 650 is literally what you need. Slight warm tilt but otherwise really neutral and balanced sound. Some measurements show it to be almost completely flat but generally there's some elevation in the lows and some decline in the highs.

http://personalaudio.ru/raa/otchety/naushniki/sennheiser-hd-650/
http://en.goldenears.net/11616
http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/sennheiser-hd650-love.44/page-2

etc
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Audio-Technica ATH-M50x or ATH-MSR7 GM ?
what's the difference ? Which should I go for ?
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>>51617174
yeah, i think i would just open up sinegen and with a quickly made peak filter for that ~6k range spot, it would be pretty good. otherwise these 702s seem better but without the bass. you just cant win it seems
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>>51607116
>>51607082
>>51606927
I have M50s and 598s. M50 sound like garbage (I have an amp). 598s have more bass than M50 and much wider soundstage.
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>>51607188
Memephones, you can buy Takstar for 50$ that sound exatly the same lol
I own both.
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>>51617302
Having listened to both I would pick the HD 650 over the K702 any day really. EQ always helps and it's really handy in the highs where almost all headphones just fall apart with the resonances.

>>51617320
More bass? What? It might be more clear and shit but sure as hell isn't more than the M50X.
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>>51616795
that's very weird, never had problems with the cable on my dt880, but mine has a coiled cable, so i don't think streching it might ever cause that, was your a straight cable?
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>>51611543
>>51611576
>Falling for any meme
Current year.

Srsly I should take some pics and post but Im too lazy, the M50s sound like shit and my 598s sound beastly compared to them, more bass, wider sound. But they are not closed you tards
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>>51617373
Do you even own them...
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>>51617302
I listened to both, I didn't like AKG that much. But I'm a bit biased, I spent 3 hours picking my phones, listening to Sen, AKG, AT and Bayer and ended up with 650.
AKG had some problem with bass and they were unbearable on bright tracks. Of course, it's IMO, different people like different things.
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>>51617373
the eq doesnt really show why you would not like them just as well. maybe the bumps at 6 and 8k are giving you a metallic sound you dont like? and of course people say a bit of extra bass can give a perceived extra natural sound too
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So anybody run into any good cyber monday deals? I could use a pair of sound cancelling headphones for at home, but I personally don't want to spend more than 60.
>>
>>51616811
>>51617098
wouldnt want to spend more than 50-70 usd
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>>51617215
if you want something that actually sounds good and doesn't look retarded as fuck in public then the choice is obvious
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>>51617512
Owned M50X and sold them because too much bass, overall annoying coloration and they hurt the top of my head. I have HD 650s from Sennheiser now and given the similarity of the frequency response between all Sennheisers from HD 518 to HD 650 it's kinda easy to understand how they sound compared to each other and especially compared to M50X.

>>51617528
I dislike the 2kHz bump on all AKGs and prefer the snug fit of the HD 650s. EQ can fix the coloration though.
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best headphones for anime?
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>>51602133
>Budget
50€ or less.
>Location
Italy.
>Source
Home PC.
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear.
>Open or closed
Doesn't really matter but preferably open.
>Comfort level
Comfortable enough to be kept on for hours.
>Preferred tonal balance
I don't know.
>Preferred music
Post rock, fusion, trip hop, classical (mostly baroque and romantic).
>Past headphones
Just some 17€ Philips bargain bin shit.
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>>51617611
>I dislike the 2kHz bump on all AKGs
ah i see

>>51617702
you need to fill out the form dude
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>>51617702
sony cd900st
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Are those cat ear headphones any good or are they trash?
>>
Anyone know how I could get my hands on loose headphone drivers in Europe? I've been getting stupid driver swap ideas lately.
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>>51617702
Kill yourself.
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>>51617302
Somewhat related. The dummy head is a BK 4128, same as goldenears/seeko
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>>51617702
sony mdr v6 it's what seijuu wear when they record their sound in studios
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>>51617805
that would be this >>51617729 actually senpai
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>>51617744

I'm a bit curious about this too. My girlfriend wants a pair of headphones and she talked about these. They any good? Seem like they'd be top heavy atleast.
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>>51617744
garbage designed by women for women
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>>51615760
xD so true #X2forlife
>>
Are surround sound headphones a meme
>>
>>51617992
yes.
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>>51617992
Yes.
>>
thoughts on G35 for mid tier gaming?
I know this isn't hpg realm in terms of quality, just thought this would be the place to find people who hate on logitech to point out the issues.
>>
So I got my black friday HD 598SEs and they clamp my head like a motherfucker. Really sore after an hour of wearing. How should I fix this?
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>>51618516
Buy yourself a CM Storm Sirus 5.1 if you want a gayming headphone. If you feel edgy and you want to shoe the world how good you are at CS:GO, just buy a HD 681 Evo and a modmic for half the price.
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>>51615827
Yes and they called it the HD800.
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>>51618597
You can't. Don't you like Sennheiser's prestigious EAR system? Don't you like the hi-fi quality of your headphones? Are you glad for falling for the meme?
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>>51617805
>seijuu
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>>51618597
its called breaking in you fucking mong
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>>51618695
snapping in*
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>>51618695
Break in is as meme as burn in. Stop creating false myths and trying to justify the poor build quality and comfort of the company you shill each day.
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>>51618683
hey man, maybe hes mexican
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Where the cyber monday deals at? I need headphone at around $50 max. USA, 3.5mm jack preferred.
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>>51618782
akg k240

if you can't afford those then just kill yourself i dont know what else to tell you friend
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>>51618782
Superlux HD681 Evo. They're sold for 33€ here in Italy. Can your rich country do better than that?
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>>51618670
>>51618735
>Ask advice
>Get argument about memes

T-thanks /g/. Maybe I'll stretch them on the box or something. Will that be OK.
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>>51618602
is there any tangible benefit to discrete drivers? I have the roccat kave 5.1's and while the sound is good they are retardedly heavy and uncomfortable.
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>>51618834
>is there any tangible benefit to discrete drivers?
No. More than 2 drivers in a single pair of headphones is already a meme anyways
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>>51618830
no one is arguing anything idiot

just toughen up and wear them for 24 hours and they will feel much better, it's really not that hard of a concept to grasp
>>
>>51618793
>>51618804
>superlux
cheap shitty akg knockoffs
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>>51618830
Unless your head is square it would be better to wear them how you would normally until the cushions break in.
>>
disregarding the price, and going solely on build, comfort, and sound quality, would you guys go with DT990's @ 32ohm or SHP9500's
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>>51618793
>>51618804

Shit, I came in here to ask about both of these. I'm leaning more towards the k240 simply because the page says I save $100 vs the $60 saved from the HD681
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>>51618974
It must be really sad to live in a country where AKG are cheaper than Starlux. My condolences.
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>>51618956
i wouldnt go dt990's period, especially not the 32 ohm version

>>51618974
get 681's if you want chinese bass cannons with a clamp so hard you'll get a migraine for two days out of the box

get k240's if you want proven studio quality sound. its a shame they started making them in china instead of austria though
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>>51618956
DT990 but not the 32ohm version.
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>>51619011
Care to explain why the DT990's seem to be jerked on here? (Legit question, looking to buy in like 3 hours)
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>>51619053
i can't speak for anyone else but just personal experience it was a waste of time and money

they sound like mud, and this was the 250ohm version with an o2 amp

they would be comfortable if the earcups weren't perfectly circular for some fucking retarded reason
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>>51619053
Sennheiser shills, basically. Bass response is a big no-no.
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>>51619089
should add on that mostly metal build + circular earcups + soft velour pads means that they will constantly slide down the side of your head and the edges of your ears will be squished, forcing you to readjust them constantly

retarded non-detachable coiled cable meant for studio use, good luck plugging that into an amp conveniently at your workstation
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HD600 fags no need to apply
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>>51619253
Ugly and uncomfortable as fuck
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>>51619267
Yes and fuck no
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>>51619253
HD600 is the best open dynamic headphone in the world. Fuck off.
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impressive how far these /hpg's/ reach their bump limit

Continue!
>>51619250
>>51619250
>>51619250
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>>51619283
No its the MA900
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>>51619047
So what, 250? I'm not looking to buy an amp, but thought those would have too high of an impedance for my pc jack

>>51619180
>>51619089
So I guess you guys still recommend the SHP9500?
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>>51619283
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>>51619294
Higher impedance means less current and easier to drive. 250 should get loud 'enough' if you have a modern onboard solution.
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>>51613953
using a different sound input device like on of those cheap usb "sound cards" or even just re-assigning a port to mic-in via drivers should work. a short is the only thing I can think of that would cause that problem.

>>51613954
558/598, k612.

>>51614158
yes it's just very "light" sounding, which is typical of many open headphones. it doesn't have that impact and richness that some people really like, but it is accurate and tight.

>>51614969
>>51614829
as someone who also listens to metal, save up for an x2.

>>51615669
loop it up using the clip

>>51615040
should get more than loud enough on any amp, it's not a hard to drive headphone.

>>51615202
yeah they're ok

>>51615240
v6 or pro80/gemini hsr1000

>>51616080
v6 or m40x, both better than the m50x. v6 sounds better but is less neutral, needs eq. m40x is close to neutral.

>>51616674
you're probably plugged into line-out instead of headphone out. change ports or re-assign. also test with another source.
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Just got the Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro

did I fuck up /hpg/?
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