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So, there is a bug with the new Crimson drivers that AMD released

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So, there is a bug with the new Crimson drivers that AMD released (not beta, final release) that lock your GPU fan speed and because of this, many users have reported playing for extended periods of time with their fans locked to 20%.

Others, like me, got their GPU burned, in my case it didn't even reboot the PC, it just crashed the screen graphics (orange bars) and I had to manually turn off the computer. When I opened the case the GPU was so hot I couldn't even remove it from the PCI-e and had to wait until it was cool enough.

So now we have no word from AMD so far, and they haven't pushed a fix for their drivers yet, so it keeps happening to other people.

I have to admit I'm really sad that I lost my 280x and my money, because I have no warranty anymore and it seems it's gone forever, I'm not sure I can trust AMD after this.

Oh well, I was about to get a 980 ti anyway. I've been team Red for years now but with all their incompetence lately (and NVIDIA using successful Jew tactics) this is honestly the last straw.
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>not monitoring your temps periodically with an OSD game
>not having a second monitor to glance at for temp readings
>not having a Bluetooth app on phone to monitor temps
>NOT MONITORING YOUR GPU IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM AFTER DRIVER UPDATE

You and everyone else asked for this. I'm not saying that AMD isn't responsible, because that's evident. But you should know better than to trust a driver update after all of these major changes they've pushed to their drivers recently.

You won't make that mistake next time.
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>>51601210
>not monitoring your temps periodically with an OSD game

A lot of games anti hack features detect these as a false positive.
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>>51601210
>tfw massive aftermarket cooler on my 290x
>tfw before it would struggle to maintain 95c without throttling and now it struggles to push 65c when its being pushed to the limit
Installing it was a pain in the ass though
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>>51601245
You're not going to get banned for using afterburner & rivatuner faggot.

Besides, you can still tab out for a quick check in between "matches" or whatever they're called in whatever game you're playing.

It's your fault for blindly trusting a driver update from either AMD or Nvidia. Both have shit history of fucking people with drivers.
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>>51601210

The fault is on AMD 100%, this can easily brick any AMD card, including ones in OEM systems where users were never meant to monitor temps constantly.

A lot of people dont overclock and as such dont need to monitor temps. The card should cut off after reaching TJMax.....

I think that this is really the beginning of the end for AMD, I mean honestly, how can anyone take them seriously anymore?

There will be no compensation for anyone affected and all those burned customers WILL go to Nvidia.

As if AMD needed anymore market share loss....

If there is any compensation it will only come as a result of a class action lawsuit 3+ years from now...
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>>51601304
>It's your fault

No its not, as I dont buy AMD garbage, and for good reason.

Nvidia has not fucked me yet....
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>>51601304
it's funny because afterburner is what is causing the issues in the first place. uninstalling it fixes the problem
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>>51601398
So use Hwmonitor. Or precision X. Or gpu tweak. Or any other fucking monitoring program.
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>>51601371
Some nvidia driver like a year ago fucked up several cards as well. I think one caught fire. /g/ was meme'ing the crap out of that situation.
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Reminder that the housefire award will always belong to novidya's Fermi
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>>51601371
Nvidia has released faulty drivers multiple times over the past few years...
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I just installed amd crimson drivers and Roy came into my house strangled my dog and sodomized my cat before taking a hug shit on my amd card which caused it to overheat :^(. Thanks amd.
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>NVIDIA CAUSES HOUSE FIRES
>290X and this happens

Yeah dude, totally Nvidia :^)
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Oh, my card murdered itself this weekend, I was wondering how that happened... Fucking AMD I guess I'm a nvidia goy now
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So how can I get a free card out of this?
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>>51601523
your way of arguing reminds me of my 10 year old son
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>tfw I also used MSI Afterburner
>tfw I overclocked my 290X
>tfw it also got stuck at 20% with occasional spikes to 22% fan speed after activating Overdrive
>tfw when I installed an Accelero IV on my reference 290X, and it wouldn't even break 85C on 20% fan speed

>>51601357
This is wrong. This issue does ONLY happen when you active AMD Overdrive in the driver control panel, AND used another software to alter the GPU fan curve before installing Crimson.

This is twice over your own fault.
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>>51601837
Literally all AMDdead Rebrandeon kucks act like children.
>muh gtx 480 that released 5 years ago ran hot
>LE HOUSEFIRE MEME xD
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>>51601501
>Roy
>Not the Fixer

0/10
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I've been unable to see this problem on my Fury. Is it a conflict with MSI afterburner? That was the last I heard anyway.
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>>51601149
>installing video drivers
>from any company
>ever
Serves you right kek
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>uninstall afterburner
>fans work normally
Woooooooow
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>>51601149
How does it even fry a card in times of thermal throttling?
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I have an MSI R9 390X. My fan profile is fine and adjusts accordingly per temperature.

I use MSI Afterburner for custom fan profile though. Although I'm most likely going to rollback to 15.11.1 because Crimson crashes while there is DX plugins like onscreen display or recorders. It doesn't crash the display drivers but the display drivers in Crimson are literally just 15.11.1 display drivers with a few more bugs.
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AMD is aware of isolated reports of low fan states following the installation of Radeon Software ‘Crimson Edition’ on select Radeon GPUs. Its engineering teams have identified and addressed this issue, and AMD intends to release a hotfix on amd.com this coming Monday, November 30th.
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>2015

>falling for the AMD meme

LMAO

>LMAO
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IT'S OVER, AMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT
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>>51601839
now the Afterburner gets a totally new meaning
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>>51602215
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Is there a fix yet?
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>>51602520
yeah, installing an nvidia gpu
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>>51602215
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>>51601885
it's neither... when you generalise, you're no better
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I don't even see an option for fan speed on the crimson setting manager.
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I can't be the only one who finds it fucking hysterical that the AMD has bad drivers meme has been totally validated. Friend of mine gave me so much shit about getting a 980ti when he "got the cheaper AMD." Never mind that I needed cuda tech at the time. It's just been a running joke between us for a while.

Now I'm going to get at least 3 years of quality troll food out of this one. Literally a free I win button in any flame fest for the next 6 months.

Legitimately sucks for those of you with destroyed hardware, but god damn this is such high quality shitpost material I almost feel guilty for using it. It's too easy.
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>>51603048
Think how easy it was for us AMD users all the times that nVidia has killed hardware off :^)
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>>51603048
Most people are unaffected right now. People with MSI Afterburner are mostly the only ones having problems.
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>>51603084
Which leaves us with the conclusion: Only people who modified the behaviour of their graphics cards are having problems.
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>falling for the overclocking meme
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Would it be obvious if this caused any damage on your GPU? or do I have to do a diagnostic of some kind?
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So setting fans speed to AUTO should fix it?
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>be poor
>buy AMD
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>>51603217
>be poor
>buy AMD
>fry card because of shitty drivers
>cry because you didn't join the NVidia master race
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>>51603217
>buy Nvidia
>be poor
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>>51601210
I second this. Always monitor your shit. I have a old dell monitor specifically for watching temps, fan speeds, utilization etc.
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>>51603231
>AMD is cheaper than Nvidia!
>AMD plebs forget they have to buy two cards for when the first one dies soon after installation
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>>51601468
Fermi.
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>>51601149
Wait crimson drivers are out? what?
did this really fucking happen? holy shit if this happened to many users AMD is just fucking done for that's it.
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>>51603271
>be poor
>buy AMD
>card gets fried because shitty drivers
>house burns down
>lose everything
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>>51603155
Yeah, frequency has absolutely nothing to do with performance. Seems legit.
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>install 3rd-party GPU tuning application
>overclock your card
>mess with your fan settings
>install new drivers without first resetting to stock
>expect things to be a-OK
?
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>>51603303
At least you still have your food stamps mayne.
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>>51601149
Took this from a reply in an article:

"Lol this got blown way out of perspective all over the internet, There is currently a bug in the crimson drivers that stops the fans of certain cards from exceeding 20%. While this sounds bad it really isn't. AMD cards have thermal protection built into the hardware and any card will throttle once it reaches it's thermal limit waaaay before it reaches a temp that could damage the card.

As an example I can switch the fans on my 290X off and all that will happen is once it reaches 95c which is the standard operating temp for a reference 290/x. It will start to throttle the core in order to keep the temp at 95c if for some reason it can't and the card exceeds 98c it will instantly shut itself down to protect itself from damage which results in the infamous "Black Screen"

There is currently a bunch of people on reddit claiming this fan bug have killed their cards in the obvious hope that AMD will RMA it for a brand new or better model of the card they already own.

News websites are eating this story up and spewing a crap load of misinformation online. Reddit seems to have finally caught on to this and people that actually know a thing or two about tech have started to explain how anyone who claims their card died because of this bug are talking out of their anus."


So which is true?
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>>51603364
>falling for the meme
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>>51603364
Either way, it's user error.
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>>51603398
I wouldnt call it user error. There's no disclaimer when downloading a driver that says "Always measure the temperature of your graphics card". in fact im not sure there's anything in the drivers that allows you to watch your card's temperature. you have to get 3rd party software.

in any case the drivers are supposed to be safe enough to not fucking burn your card.
Sure, someone more tech savvy will be able to save his card in such a case of failing drivers by being smart and monitoring temperatures - but you can't in anyway demand or take it as granted that everyone will.
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>>51601210
>>51603258
> Literal victim blaming
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>>51603364
This has been my experience as well. Nvidia, AMD or Intel, they all have thermal throttling built in.
Else it'd be fucking retarded, how much does it cost to implement and how much money are you going to save from repairing blowed cards just because the fan died?

All I see is people trying to get their dead card RMA'd because it "suddenly" died on them.

Yeah, right.
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>>51603456
What I mean is that no matter if chips are getting damaged or not, the only time this seems to be happening is if people are overclocking or messing with fan speeds and then not resetting before installing the new drivers. See >>51603325
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>>51603464
When your car has a check engine light, you should probably look to see if it's on or not. Take care of your shit. It is his fault for letting it fry the GPU. It's not his fault the problem happened, it's his fault he didn't do anything to save his hardware.
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>>51603493
Ahh I see. I hadn't noticed that. Yes you're right in this case. it is definitely user error.
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>>51603084
>>51603133
No, pretty much any deviation from AMD reference fanspeed will trigger this bug. People who use Afterburner/Precision to control their fan and have never touched Overdrive have been hit by it. People who used the new game-specific overclock and fanspeed feature in Crimson have been hit by it. It can happen if you use Overdrive and reset clocks to default. Some people have had problems with Crimson forgetting their settings, and if your cooler isn't reference AMD you can get the issue without even touching anything related to OC or fanspeed.
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>>51603562
Cars have check engine lights. GPUs don't. What the fuck are you talking about?

What car forces you to install and configure extra software to have a check engine light? And then forces you to spend a few hundred more on a screen to look at it while driving?
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>>51601149
Nice tale, brother.
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>>51601210
Basically this, they're beta drivers, shit can go wrong
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>>51601468
GTX 580 was caught on video throwing sparks and smoke by Sweclockers on stable drivers
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>>51601371
Nvidia STABLE drivers have literally bricked cards in the past, multiple times
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>QUICK REMINDER THAT THIS ONLY HAPPENS BECAUSE OF MSI AFTERBURNER
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>>51602051
He's lying, he's a shill
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>>51601149
Keep lying you dumb cunt, my 280X will throttle and eventually shut down if i lock the fan speed
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>>51603364
Literally everything made on this decade has thermal protection, the only time cards have fried is when they have shitty VRM's, like the GTX 580 and the GTX 460
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>>51603694
>Cars have check engine lights. GPUs don't.

Maybe if you're a poorfag

https://www.evga.com/support/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=59496
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>>51604156
this
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>>51603694
I bought my dell for $38 on amazon. And it doubles as a extra screen when im not gaming. Whoa!
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>>51604242
I have a Sapphire 380 and I'm pretty sure there's not LEDs on my GPU
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I use my GPU as a heater during the winter, so this sounds like a nice feature.
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>>51604279
It's on the Vapor-X 290(X) models.
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>>51604279
Now youre just being a candy-ass faggot. Fuck off
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>>51604246
Cool story. So what car forces you to buy a $40 part to have a working check engine light while driving?
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>>51604334
What are you even talking about?
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>>51604293
Or would hear less, do you even basic physics?
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>>51604293
It'd be more effective as a heater if it didn't have to throttle back, reducing power consumption.

No, I don't go to parties very often.
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>>51601839
TFW I just bought a 390 but am able to read these posts and not fuck up my new card thanks to /g/ showing me what to not do
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There isn't any proof of overheating
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6850 died recently and I was using afterburner to underclock. Could this be a potential reason?
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>AMD
>Working GPU drivers

Pick one.

>and people still say it's just a meme
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Serves the dumb AMD fanboys right, I hope all your cards burn up, you never learn your lessons anyways.

I still have got my GTX 480's, they still work dick heads.
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The don't call it Firepro for nothing.
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>I have to admit I'm really sad that I lost my 280x and my money, because I have no warranty anymore and it seems it's gone forever, I'm not sure I can trust AMD after this.
Oy vey goy, I guess now you have to buy a 390X
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>>51604598
You sound like an AMD warranty.
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>>51601357
>whatever happens right now is the only thing that's happened
>the past isn't an indication of the future, and this has never happened before to anyone like nVidia

It's like you're actively 12.
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Hey noob question. I Just got a R9 270x for free and i dont really want the new 15.x drivers cause the problems. Whats my safe bet for driver download?
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>>51605760
Just wait until tomorrow when AMD releases the fix
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I just >>51605904
I just put together a new rig and trying to get it ready to run for tomorrow. Dont really want to wait all the time not being able to do anything.
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>>51605926
Then check if the AMD site still has Catalyst available
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>>51605948
I dont know what the numbers are though. Like is 14.12 what im supposed to get?
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>>51605961
Anything under 15.xx should be fine.
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>>51601357
>After reaching TJMax
Holy hell why can't I hold all these sales?
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>>51605062
So you have found proof? Show em
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>>51603364
Both perhaps
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>mfw I use a 280x
>mfw I didn't update the software
>mfw they're going to fix it pretty fast
>mfw it looks a lot better than CCC
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This happened to me on 290x. Luckily I caught something was wrong, at least when hearing crackling noises from inside the case. Setting fan to auto from msi afterburner fixed it.
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>>51601984
I had a problem where my card was underclocking itself randomly and I had to go into the Radeon settings to change it.

I just uninstalled MSI afterburner, no idea if that will fix it though.
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so i have a 280 and just downloaded the install for 15.11, should i not install?
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>>51602167
>2015
>falling for nvidia meme
lmao
>amd goes bankrupt
>nvidia products prices increase to 300%
>technological progress slows
serves us right
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installed crimson, nothing changed except a new gui and performance boost

my fans still go up to 37-40%
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dunno if correct, but the only reason this happened (if it's true at all)

is that the fan speed has been locked, the dumb fuck probably turned it on by himself and burned the card
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>>51601149
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>>51601149
>you literally have to ACCEPT the terms to enable overclocking
>people don't read shit and just hit accept then complain
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>>51601371
Nvidia drivers have killed laptops just recently.
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>>51608216
Just another day using NVIDIA.
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>>51601357
Throttling exists ya know. Ever heard of that and how that works?
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>AMD bad wawawa
>Dey burnd ma gpu
>Drivers at fault
>Gunna go Nopevidia

fantastic, the plan is working, we will own this market soon, thanks in part to your shilling and spreading the hate of AMD. Then we can truly fuck you over, more than ever before because we will have no competition.

>$0.25 has been added to your account. pleasure doing business with you.
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>>51608249

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/862417/geforce-drivers/windows-10-geforce-drivers-are-killing-samsung-and-lg-notebook-lcd-display-panels/
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>>51608153
>hotfix
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>>51608159
You have to accept the terms for pretty much EVERYTHING you install on your computer anon..
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>>51608309
>>51608216
AMD discrete GPUs will fry any laptops so they don't put any in laptops.
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>>51603846
Link?
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>>51608386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1VFMcbc
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>>51608386
How do you not know about what basically started the housefire meme? Are you 12?
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OP literally copy and pasted this from le reddit
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>>51601419
>precision x
>AMD
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>Upgrade from 680 to 390x
>immediately regret

The keks over at /r/amd convinced me the shitty drivers idea was just a meme, fucking shills. Back to Nvidia I go

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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AYYMD HAS NO DRIVERS
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>>51608475
>card gets so hot so quickly that hardcoded, built in protection circuits fail and it dies
>otherwise completely ignores overheat protection (downclocking) and just fails
>280x

I find that impossible.
I find it impossible that with no fan on at all the card would even go over 100C/actual dangerous temps in that situation. (some brands of GTX 480s were running 105C nonstop on release)

I've ran a reference board, cheap, shitty cooler 7770 and 7850 at a ridiculous BIOS modified maximum power draw load 24/7 for three weeks doing neural net simulation.
It was 40C in my house. Yes, 40C, with the temps in the PC's room sometimes hitting 43.

The cards were always at 98-99C and they never clocked down, I kept Afterburner logs of the performance.
Nothing happened. They could still overclock the same as when I took them out of the box. No crashes, no glitches, nothing. They worked fine.

>was so hot I couldn't take it out
Yeah a fucking GPU core at 90C after just a couple minutes will still be hot, you fucking pussy.
The rest of the card (that you'd touch - the fucking sides) will hardly be 15C more than ambient, were you trying to pull it out by the actual heatsink? (how did you contact the sink directly, did you pull the fan off with the card still installed?) Were your hands on the GPU-core part of the backplate? (Fucking why???)

This post REEKS of either retardation or, more likely, Nvidia shilling.
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>>51603690
>and have never touched Overdrive
Are you sure? I read thread on reddit yesterday, there were few retards who "didnt touch nuffin", then they admit they did turn Overdrive on, but "only to try interface out, didn't change nuffin, doesn't count".
So, I still think all this is Overdrive related. Using 280x with Afterburner right now, no problems.
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>>51603325
>do everything you said
>GPU doesn't hit 90+c
>GPU works and doesn't throttle

Thanks Nvidia, I didn't have to uninstall anything for your drivers to work :^)
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ppl shilling over nvidia saying nvidia has not failed massively yet. The smell of 12 year olds is filling the room, these kids dont know the bad history of nvidias shit it wasnt untill recently that nvidia actually has proper good working gpus that are not complete and total shite
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>>51601149
Lol

Im The one that posted that on lebbit why dont you steal someones elses post nigger?
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Huh, should I install an old AMD card in my PC and tell them it caught fire?
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No-ones card has broken or burned, anyone claiming their had is a lying shit. There's overheat protection built into every AMD card made in the last 8 - 10 years, if it gets over 130 degrees Celsius, it just turns the PC off. Thats no-where near hot enough to brick anything.

You can easily test this by just removing your cooler from your card and turning the PC on. It'll switch itself off again sharpish. I have done this (accidentally, obviously, because I was stoned and being retarded), and gone through several boot cycles before my dumb ass realised what was wrong. Card still works perfectly fine.

its just fucking idiot redditors jumping on a bandwagon and hoping AMD will replace their shitty 5 year old card with a Fury X or some shit.

Saying all that though, AMD needs to sort out these things before pushing an official driver out. These issues WERE NOT in the betas so should not have been in the release.
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>>51601149
It's not a bug, it's a feature. My basement was freezing cold, but now it's toasty.

Thanks AMD.
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Testing on an HD 6770 overclocked to 945 MHz Core clock and 1335 MHz Memory clock.

HIS IceQ 6770. Radeon Crimson Beta 15.11.1, Windows 10 Pro x64, and Unigine Valley.

Run #1 without messing around Radeon Settings (OC via AB, never messed with fan profile on Radeon Settings), works as expected.

Run #2, started to mess around with Radeon Settings fan speed, manually limiting to 20% to trigger GPU reset. GPU resets as expected at 94 degrees celsius. I re-enabled automatic fan control, then I put the PC into sleep.

Run #3 after waking from sleep, Radeon Settings started to act weird. Fan control reverted to manual at 20%, then I put it back to auto and re-ran the benchmark, works as expected. PC then goes to sleep.

Run #4 after waking, fan control still reverts to manual, but goes to 100% instead of 20%.

Conclusion?

The bug is there and can be reproduced.

It's close to impossible to burn your card from the bug itself.

Why? A 6770 is a rebrand from 5770, which lacked PowerTune whatsoever, so my card does not even have any thermal throttling feature, but it does have a temperature reset and shutdown.

At 94 degrees celsius, the card automatically resets (it did NOT crash as the driver did not show a crash notification).

So basically, if a card that lacked thermal throttling is able to survive from heat, I personally think it's impossible for 280X's or 7970's to burn to death.
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>>51611594
Should have called the drivers "AMD Winter Edition" not this Crimson nonsense.
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SOMEBODY CALL 9-1-1!!!
shawty fire burning on the dance floor!
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>>51601357
>TJMAX
Underrated post
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>>51601149

Just swapped out my 770 for an XFX 390.

0 problems here, apart from the fact that my MSI onboard audio is shit and if i place the card in the lower PCI slot instead of the upper one i get static noise in games.
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i got a r9 380 withe the crimson driver installed, the only thing that saved me is the outside temperature touching 0° degrees Celsius. btw the card was on 60° celsius under load while playing the witcher 3 it's not too hot i think
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This is hilarious because nvidia is the "it burns your house down meme"

This is a severe image damage for AMD damn
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based Intel IGP master race
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>>51601357
>I mean honestly, how can anyone take them seriously anymore?

Dunno man, the same way people still take Nvidia seriously after they released GPU-frying drivers several times in the past I guess?
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Well at least the fan speed is still higher than their marketshare.
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>retarded children somehow manage to kill their cards
>everyone blames AMD's drivers
>everyone believes the memes, no one buys AMD anymore
>AMD goes bankrupt

A company getting killed by the idiocy of its own customers

It's hilarious and sad at the same time
>>
is there a hotfix yet?
i oc'd my 390 a bit, reseted settings, after every restart they are back at oc-clocks + fan at 42%
wouldn't be that bad but i wanted to take my pc back to the shop today and get the 390 replaced because the coilwhine is bad
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>>51612292
If you got coil whine, that's not your GPU that's bad, but your PSU. Too much ripple.
Get something like a RM1000x or a Snow White 750W.
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Falling for the amd meme
Kek
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joke's on you my card is passively cooled
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AMDfags BTFO.

That's what you get for making all those GTX 480 196.75 housefire jokes.

Karma's a bitch.
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>>51612378
i use an antec 750w bronze psu, shouldn't that be enough?

rolled back to catalyst 15.7.1 for now
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>>51612751
What model? It's not about the wattage, but the quality (and maybe age) of the PSU.
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>>51601149
Impossible op.
http://wccftech.com/crimson-driver-fan-bug-acknowledged-by-amd-hot-fix-coming/

AMD throttles under heat. You literally just took off your fan hoping to start a meme.
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>>51613188

OP's post is pasta from reddit.
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