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Official Thread #045 : The "Disco Inferno" Edition

Bump limit was achieved.
BURN BABY BURN!!!!!!

Good Evening,

It's about time we consolidate graphics card discussion to reduce unnecessary thread clutter on /g/. Let's keep the shilling to a minimum.

Direct any and all questions regarding Graphics Cards and Display Adapters here first, including purchase and sale questions:
Use >>>/g/gcg/

For non-related questions, link to find the stupid questions thread:
>>>/g/sqt

In the news:

>Nvidia prepares the launch of its 960Ti super Price/Performance bracket card for the holidays:
http://techfrag.com/2015/11/26/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960-ti-specs-leaked-will-launch-in-the-coming-weeks/
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/39343-nvidia-working-on-geforce-gtx-960-ti

Post your fucking news links in the thread. Two or more sources is recommended.

WCCFTech is 100% shitposting without a second source.

Budget crown:
 AMD Radeon R9 380X 


Performance crown:
 Nvidia GeForce GTX 980Ti 


Buyer Guides:
www.logicalincrements.com
www.pcpartpicker.com

Logical Increments happily accepts suggestions, comments, and criticisms.

Drivers:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us


Thankyou.
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Aaand pasta fails me again. Oh well.
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>>51597991
Whatever, just keep this alive till the other dies.
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Gtx 970 for $350 or 390x for $420.
970 would be EVGA and can be stepped up to a 980 ti
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>>51594301
>If you can wait 18 months do so, if you can't then a 380x is a solid choice right now.
Hmm, that long huh. If it's truly 18 months then I guess yeah getting a 380x now is a good idea. And you've got a point about midrange ones coming in much later.

>>51594508
>Why do girls wear almost nothing and wonder why men ogle them and make passes at them?
You sure they don't like the attention?
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>>51597914
Pascal when. Calling Q2 for benchmark cards and Q3 for gaymen cards.

Make your bets
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>>51600400
March 2016 for x70 NINJA RELEASE
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>>51600465
>march

you fool. They gonna milk the 900 until june
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Going to buy a cheap second hand card cause poor.

I've found a Club HD 7950 RoyalKing for $95 and a Sapphire Reference 7970 for $125. Is the extra worth it for the 7970? Apparently the 7950 can overclock well too.
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>>51600615

The 7970 will always be faster, but reference coolers? Eh i'd pass on that unless you plan to rip it off. Reference cooling for any card really isn't built to handle overclocking.
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Fuck mane, best budget card:
r9 380????
I'll invest in a great GPU once one is out
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>>51600896

Price vs performance plummets once you go past the 380/960.
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>>51601062
Will I be fine running 2 monitors with it, or is that pushing the card
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>>51601151

Depends on monitor resolution and what you are doing.
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>>51601167
Within a few months I'll have a 720p TV with a 1080p monitor.
I'll probably just be gaming and watching something.
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>>51600615
AMD cards like the 7950/70 have been abused for bitcoin mining, their vrms are all burned and can barely deliver power nowadays, you will most likely get a card that while it can work, performance will be sub par once it gets into heavy load and will only last a few months more or have weird graphical glitches in games, I had a 7950 that in dx11 games when viewing some angles the game would fuck up and display the 3D objects and shit instead of the game textures as if I was viewing the objects from within a 3D modeling software.

I've bought three used 7950 that I used for some builds and all them had problems.


Pretty much anyone who got a 7950/70 used that card for bitcoin mining at some point and the cards you see really cheap are from people who bought lots of them to use them for this exact purpose.


You're better going for a 280X as those cards werent abused as much as the 7950/70 since everyone already got a 7950/70 by the time the rebrand came out.
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>>51601343
So many lines of bs
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>>51601484

To be fair at one point a 7970 was generating more buttcoins per day than the original titan weas capable of.
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>>51601484
you must be trolling... there was a shortage of those cards because buttcoin miners snatched all of them.
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Will oc'ing my 970 (strix) to ~1450 (right now it's at 1250) make it run hotter at low usage? I love the fact the fans don't turn on until it reaches 65°c, after 3 hours of maxed out dead rising 3 it reaches 61-63 without making any noise at all.
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>>51602045
Temperatures should remain the same unless you are increasing voltage,.
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>>51602226
Thank you for clearing that up, now would a 200mhz oc require increasing the voltage? Not on my pc right now btw.
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>>51602310
Depends entirely on the chip.
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>>51602346
It's an asus strix gtx 970
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>>51602372
I mean it depends entirely on your specific chip if it'll need more voltage or not. Some chips overclock well and don't need any extra voltage for some substantial overclocks, others start artefacting if you so much as bump the speed up by 50MHz.
It's literally just dumb luck if you have a chip that overclocks well or not.
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https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/sop/5334797531.html

Guys... should I go for it?
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>>51602310
I can run my g1 gaming 970 at 1519mhz with stock voltage of 1.212
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>>51602403
Ow, so, I guess that means I'll have to find out myself, thanks anon.
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I own a 280x vapor-x , lots of people talk about 380/380x. How far behind them am I ? Are they 280/280x rebrand ?
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>>51602458

The 380/x are based off tonga, first seen in the 285. The 280/x are the last of tahiti.
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>>51602483
Thank you.
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In the other thread there was a discussion ongoing about the GTX960Ti.

I wonder whether that was trolling or actually some person that knew more than the rest.

A GTX960 Ti really does sound promising.
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>>51602543
If they're doing the same shit as with the 660Ti, it'll be a 970 on a 128bit memory bus.
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>>51602561
Another 2GB card AT THE END OF 2015 thank you nvidia go fuck yourselves
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>>51602543

The rumourso f the 960ti have been around for months - Nvidia gave us the 950 instead. The reason said rumours have picked up again is because on face value Nvidia has nothing to compete against the 380x and there is a fair gap between 380 -> 390 and 960 -> 970.

In the here and now the 380x is THE 1080p card to get (it doesn't do half bad at 1440p either given its performance class).
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>>51602483
Literally what the fuck does that graph even mean
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>>51602681

It is very clearly labelled - it shows how fast other reference gpus are with a baseline of the gpu being reviewed, in this case the 380x and the slightly higher clocked strix 380x.
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>>51602650
>>51602561

The 380x here costs over 250€.
I'd rather pay another 50€ to go with a GTX970.

....if it weren't for the 0.5GB that would potentially cause microstuttering.

This just shows how bad AMD have been doing for years now.
The 380x is still an old architecture, which means bad performance to power consumption ratio.
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>>51602752

>The 380x is still an old architecture

Errr, no. The tonga architecture is relatively knew as serves as part of the basis for fiji. In fact tonga is newer than maxwell.
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>>51602894
It's a refresh of GCN, which upped the efficiency a fair bit and added some features.
It's not a completely new architecture like Maxwell.
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>>51602924

Maxwell isn't from the ground up either - its still an evolution of kepler.
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>>51602924
It's just a shitty 285 with some extra texture units enabled, you can even crossfire it with the 285.

It's definitely more antiquated than Maxwell that's for sure. Higher power consumption, missing some cutting edge features such as hvec decoding.
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>>51603044

>shitty
>faster than a 960
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>>51603087
>uses more power than a 960
>doesn't have HDMI 2.0 support, H.265 or HEVC encoding
Yes, shitty.
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>>51603115

>HEVC encoding

Not all of the maxwell lineup has that either - the 960 does and i'm guessing the 950 as well, but the 970 and 980 don't.
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>>51603087
>cost more than a 970 on sale ($220~)
>weaker than a 970

shit is outdated and expensive
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>>51603150
The don't say tonga is newer you fucking moron
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>>51603196

Psst, the first maxwell chip is the 750ti which is lacking most of those features as well.
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>>51603211
Fucking idiot.
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about the 380X, it's worth 60more € than the regular 380?

235 vs 295€

it's for a gaming PC with 1080p monitor
my old vga was an HD 6970, now dead
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>>51603487
>my old vga was an HD 6970, now dead
kek, did it get fried because of shit drivers?
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>>51603539
well memed
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>>51603539
onestly, i don't know, it lasted 4 years, i got that at a good price
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Why do you guys prefer the 380x to a 970? And don't >3.5 me.
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>>51603740
>3.5
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>>51603740
970
380x is the 960Ti if there will be one
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380X OR 390?????????????????
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>>51604123
390 if you can afford it and your PSU can handle it
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>>51603487
so, any help for the 380vs380x, please?
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>>51604431
Same question, got a 380 for $170 in the cart
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>>51604520
>>51604431
380 4 GiB if you plan to run it at stock setting.
380X if you want to overclock at stock voltage and raise the powerlimit (something everyone should do). It'll get close to a 290 in performance.
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>>51603740
Quite a tad cheaper, and also 3.5.
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>>51604618
What about the sapphire Nitro 380.
Some bs about it ready to be OCd or something, I'm bad at gpu snake oil
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>>51604900
Good card. Sapphire knows their stuff.
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>>51597914
Does anyone know what the old drivers for AMD where? I dont want to download crimsons cause the 20% fan speed thing. Scared im going to brick my card.
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>>51605837
>20% fan speed thing

can you explain to me that, please?
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>>51606043
apparently, and im not really sure, people are reporting that the new 15.11 drivers can limit your fan speeds to 20%
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Never cared about GPU temperatures before but since I own a R9 390 and installed Crimson, I've been quite paranoid.
What GPU temperature is considered average and normal? When should I be concerned it's too high?
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alright i'm glad there was a general for this
i've been looking at graphics cards to upgrade from my shitty ass gt 640
my budget is $230 this cyber monday
what graphics card should i count on seeing go on sale? i've been tempted to buy a reference cooler 290 and put on a new cooler, i've been tempted to just buy the 380 and call it good, tempted to the 950 i just don't know
and no i wish i could save a bit more for the 970/390/380x but my current circumstances won't allow that
tl;dr - $230, best graphics card whether it's r9 200s/300s, or gtx 700s/900s
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>>51606241
80 Degrees and over. Playing even a mildly intensive vidya at a locked 20% fan speed will result in housefire.
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>>51606241
80 and up is pretty high but doable
90 is getting near oven territory
100 and it's probably going to fry the card

just get a better fan nigger

>he fell for the amd meme
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>>51606265
290, save up for a better cooler later.

It is loud and hot though.
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>>51597914
I just need someone input if anyone is willing to give some, should I spend an extra $50 and get an MSI Radeon R9 380 2GB or spend $50 less and get a zotac gtx 760 2gb

Currently

the 760 is $200 cdn

380 is $250 cdn
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>>51606368
I am building this pc for the gf, 250 is max for the gpu, ill ask her as well.

more performance out of the 380 but I'm not sure if it's $50 more performance
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>>51606302
alright imma just give a list of the cards i was thinking about
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150678&cm_re=r9_290-_-14-150-678-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202043&cm_re=r9_290-_-14-202-043-_-Product or if this one ever goes on sale http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161459&cm_re=r9_290-_-14-161-459-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202166&cm_re=r9_380-_-14-202-166-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127894&cm_re=gtx_960-_-14-127-894-_-Product
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>>51606368
>R9 380
>2 GB
No. Buck up and get the 4 GB version or fall back on the cheaper tier.

If you're gonna spend 200 canuckbucks get the 950 instead.
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>>51606412
The 760 will out perform a 950

why choose the 950?

the 760 also has the wider memory bus
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>>51606412
keep in mind it will be 1080p gaming and fairly light.

cs
gmod
mc
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>>51606412
also I don't see a 4gb around 200 for the 950 but there is a gigabyte 750 ti 4gb for 190
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>>51606405
>280X
$220
No fucking way.

>Reference 290
>$200 after rebate
Very good, but...

>Open air 290
>$230
Honestly, get this. ANY open air cooler should crush reference. The cooler itself with 3 visible heatpipes looks beefy enough.

>380 4GB
>$175 with rebate
1st choice for lower cost but compared to the $230 Open air 290 hell no.

>GTX 960
>$175 after rebate
380 is better at the same price.
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>>51606412
I think I will go with this card
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_1200_557_558&item_id=089695
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>>51606421
>>51606433
>>51606458
In modern games that's incorrect. The 950 will crush the 760 in modern games that use gameworks, and more than likely match it in any other.

You don't see a 4 GB 950 because it doesn't exist. You don't need 4 GB in the case of the 950 because at 1080p it won't make much use of it and because of better compression compared to GCN 1.2.

I said get the 4 GB 380 because it makes good use of it compared to say the 960 because the 380 has worse compression.
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>>51606241
>tfw the housefire memes is actually true
>never even purchased an AMD product because so many memes and didn't want to fall for it
>always just parroted the housefire meme for fun
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What makes the 290 so good compared to 3xx series?

Isn't it like 2 years old?
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>>51606556
Good choice. The 380 will destroy the 760 and even beat the 770 in comparison, though not by much.
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>>51606576
It isn't really worse at lower resolution performance wise, 390 is the same GPU with upped clock speeds and double memory size. A small overclock is all that's needed to match the 390 at lower resolution.

The advantage is they're much cheaper than new 390s are selling for.
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>>51606516
Thank you! Hopefully it'll come back into stock soon or other 290's will go on sale.
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>>51601557

And it still does, but nobody uses gaming cards for mining now a days anyway.
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>>51603115
>uses same power as a 960
>faster than a 960

SHILL BTFO
T
F
O
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>>51604900
Best 380 out there. It will probably match or even slightly edge out a stock 380x when overclocked.
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>>51605837
>>51606062
It works just fine on my card.

You could always you know...install it, run a light game and see if it happens

And apparently the issue is complicated, and has to do with trying to use AMD's overclocking program along with the Afterburner program (which is and always has been a big no-no to begin with, whether you use AMD or Nvidia), so it only affects retards.
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AMD is gonna hotfix this within the week.

http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-radeon-software-crimson-driver-hotfix-coming-tomorrow-for-fan-fix_175761
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>>51606898
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DgZHCJ

How's it looking?
I honestly was going to save money and not overclock
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>>51606953
Not him but the main beef of the build couldn't be better if I tried.
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>>51606994
I have basically been up for 3 days trying to get the perfect budget build, waiting for Cyber Monday to be my price savior...

I'm thinking maybe i should't overclock with an AMD graphics card, since i don't know what i'm doing yet
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>>51607036

Download the Sapphire Trixxx utility. It's literally just a slider that makes overclocking super easy. Overclocking the card doesn't really cost you anything. You can get a 380 to around 1150MHz. Also, do you really need the wireless adapter/cd burner?
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>>51607036
Overclocking isn't exactly difficult, just time consuming.

Just remember to take things in steps, don't crank Core clocks, Memory clocks and Voltages up to the max just because you can, that's what idiots do and it kills chips quickly.

Use MSI Afterburner to go about tweaking those things, or just plain monitoring values and temperatures.

Be conservative in tweaking until you're comfortable that you know what you're doing.
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>>51603252
That's cute but they weren't even talking about DX12.
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>>51607098
I don't have an ethernet in my room
And yeah i burn a lot of CDs for the car

Do i need to get different RAM if i'm overclocking?
I'm just wondering if the 4690k is worth the $50 over the 4460 if I am not even going to overclock right away
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>>51606953
you could spend a little bit more on the PSU if you're willing,
It's one of the most important parts in a computer and relatively cheap compared to that importance.

The 600B looks to be a slightly upgraded (probably only the four/five main power delivery components, which is common among product lines) version of the 500B, and a good review is here
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=351
The 12v (the main voltage all PC components use) rail ripple, while being in spec, is rather high on the 500w unit. What this tells me is that after a year or two of being used, turned off and on, etc, those numbers are likely already worse for the 600w unit, and will likely go out of 120mv spec.
All of the capacitors used in the EVGA *00B line seem to be second-rate, which leads to another assumption that down-the-road this unit will conk out on you under high usage.

And finally, as of two years ago, JonnyGuru stated that for the price the (500w) model wasn't worth it's retail value, that you could get better for the same cost.
Again, the 600B is probably just upgraded at the main power switching MOSFETs, with everything else being essentially similar.

tl:dr you can get a better power supply for the money, but I recommend you spend just a few tens of dollars more on something great.

That few tens of dollars can be the difference between buying another $60 PSU in two years or having the same one for five.
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>>51607143
>do I need to get different RAM if I'm overclocking

The k-series chips have an unlocked multiplier, which means you can increase the CPU speed without affecting the RAM speed.

So no, you are fine with 1600 DDR3
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>>51607143
If you're not overclocking, don't bother with a Z97 board.

That said, the 4690k can be very much worth it if you get a good overclock on it. Base clock is higher regardless.

Again, don't fuck around with Voltage until you get a good idea of what's stable at stock and what isn't, then go in small voltage steps from there.

Never exceed 1.35 Volts. Most chips never need that much to get to at least 4.5 GHz anyway.
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>>51607143

Well if you really aren't going to overclock them you could get the 4460, get an H97 (non overclockable) motherboard and put that money towards a better GPU. With the money you'll be saving you can jump up to a 380x or a 290, which are selling for like 200 bucks right now on Newegg. You'll get better performance overall.
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>>51607254
So i'm safe to just chill with the base clock for a while?

>>51607159
I mean you're right, but i'll take the chance for it being on sale for $25. Unless there's a comparable deal

>>51607197
Sweeeeeet
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>>51607275
The thing is my motherboard is on sale for $90 and gives me 8GB of free ram (worth $30), so i just put that money i saved into the CPU, to make the board useful
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>>51607313
You generally never want to touch the base clock. Most people would be lucky to get it to 105Mhz from 100, and that (maybe) 5% increase really isn't worth how it affects every other part of the computer.

The whole point of OCing a k-series is the multiplier is unlocked, which makes it easy to select the speed you want to run at.

I noticed you don't have an aftermarket heatsink in your parts list, and if you really want to overclock, you should pick up something like a hyper 212 evo ($30) or Cryorig H5 ($20 more expensive than the 212 for not much gain).
$30 is well worth the potential benefit.

You won't get far in OCing without at least the 212. The stock unit that comes with a CPU is meant literally for just running at stock speeds.
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>>51607313
You're fine to stay with Base clock if you want to, but cranking up the Core clock without touching Voltage is indeed safe and you'll know when to back off when you start getting instability issues and bluescreens.

To test your stability use Intel Burn Test. Run it a few times to get a good estimate on stability.

If Intel Burn Test reports no problems after say 10 runs you're pretty much golden.

Again, as long as you don't touch Voltage it's perfectly safe to experiment with Core clock.

Just don't go thinking you'll reach beyond 4.0 GHz at stock Voltage.
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>>51607342
Oh, I didn't see the free ram. In that case that's a really good deal. Stick to that mobo.
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How well can I mod skyrim with a 970 at 1080p?
Is 3.5 enough?
What actually happens if you go over? I've seen videos where absolutely nothing happened, and also videos where huge purple glitches would appear on screen and fps went to like 2.
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>>51607466
At 1080p Skyrim shouldn't give you too many problems.

What happens when you go over depends on the game, but in most games you will see your FPS tank hard and Frametimes become more inconsistent, resulting in stuttering.
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>>51607373
You make it sound like the performance is worse than a 4460 at base clock
I can just buy a fan later right? Like if i just run it at stock, it'll be fine?
>>51607382
>>51607382
And i won't have problems if there's no tweaking going on right?

I just don't want to experience all these overclocked AMD card crashes
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>>51607466
You'll probably be alright.

With 8k*8k textures, a very in depth set of complete static/live model replacements, and 4k*4k shadow mods I only see about 2.5GB on my 290 with 4xMSAA at 1080p

Your frame rate will drop though if you use the open cities mod, almost regardless of the graphics mods

>>51607512
>You make it sound like the performance is worse than a 4460 at base clock
What? I never implied this. They both run the same.

What I'm trying to say is that if you want to overclock you will be extremely limited by the stock heatsink unit.

>overclocked AMD card crashes
I've been running heavily OC'd AMD cards since 2011 and never had an issue with this.
Crashes from an OC are because of the user being stupid and not testing for stability.
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>>51607538
>>Your frame rate will drop though if you use the open cities mod, almost regardless of the graphics mods
What is this a result of?
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>>51607512
Oh, I wasn't referring to GPU overclocking in>>51607382, I was talking about CPU overclocking.

But, you're right. The same Overclock methodology applies to GPUs as well, don't touch Voltage and you're safe to experiment.

The only difference is power limit, which considering the PSU you're getting should NOT be fucked with. Only if you get a beefier PSU can I say you're safe to up the power limit.

Also, agreed with>>51607373,
You should get a 212 EVO CPU Cooler.
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>>51607538
Nice! Good to hear about the OCing AMD cards

So then $50 is worth the 4690k to essentially increase the overall performance of my PC without having to buy new parts later
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>>51607546
Open Cities is a mod that creates the cities inside the world map, so you can open the city doors without having a load screen. Without the mod, cities and the world map (AKA running around in the wilderness) are two separate entities and thus the GPU resources needed are reduced considerably.

What this mod does is draw everything, the city and the world around it in one large map.
That's a whole lot of shit for a GPU to handle. A 290/970 is quite powerful and can handle that in 1080p, but your FPS might still drop from 60 down to maybe even the high 40's
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>>51607585
Oh okay.

So you use 8k textures and HQ replacers for basically everything, and still only hit 2.5GB? So I am free to just go ahead and download the highest quality textures and replacers for shit without worrying about it, even if I'm replacing literally everything, so long as I don't use open cities?
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>>51607564
So if I don't up the power limit, I can stick with my cheapo PSU? And i can still play (carefully) with OC without touching the power limit?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruCr6OXbK5E

AMD HAS NO DRIVERS
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>>51607634
Pretty much.
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>>51607634
And I will get a CPU cooler before I start touching OC, but stock cooler is fine for just using it out of the box?
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>>51607661
Absolutely, they wouldn't ship a CPU with a cooler that isn't adequate.
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>>51607661
The stock cooler is fine for that yes, just remember that if/when you want to OC the CPU you should get another heatsink.
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Which cooler has same dimensions as H80i but is better
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>>51607632
Generally speaking, yes. Basically the more things you try to render (by that textures or NPCs) the more vram you'll use. Obviously is you try to run literally every texture mod (some actually conflict with each other, but still) you'll be using a lot of ram.
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>>51607683
Just a single 120? Performance is pretty much the same when it comes to AIOs from Corsair, Cooler Master and the popular brands. The SP120 fans are pretty good for those high fpi aluminum rads, but they're loud as fuck. Don't get a cheaper water cooler. Just get a high end air cooler.
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Poorfag here looking for the best GPU that can be purchased for around $150- $200. Can someone help?
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>>51597914
Thank you for linking to my site.
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>>51608126
Where are the Cyber Monday deals man
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>>51608140
Working on them right now. I think I can have Amazon's deals up on the blog in ~30 minutes, and Newegg is ~2-3 hours.
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http://www.gputechconf.com/

APRIL 4-7, 2016
SILICON VALLEY
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>>51608126
I always do.
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>>51608152
Well give us a little heads up on Newegg's stuff
Any GPUs, PSUs? I only see their one page of 30 shitty deals
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>>51608076
R9 380 4 GBs are hanging around in that range right now and they're fucking spectacular.

Although you could snag a much faster R9 290 for $200 on rebate but you would need to suffer with Reference cooling dogshit until you can save up for an Aftermarket cooler.
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>>51608214
just listen to him
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>>51608197
http://www.newegg.com/Cyber-Monday-Deals/PromotionStore/ID-56

For some reason, Newegg is hiding this page from its frontpage. I will go through it and filter the best from the rest, and blog it.
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>want to get a new card for Just Cause 3
>game releases right after the best day to buy a card
Thanks squeenix
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>the amd housefire driver is real
>in 2015
guess who's not going AMD/freesync in 2016?
[spoiler]me[/spoiler]
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>>51609050
If you're a retard who doesn't track his temps, go ahead
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>>51609050
I will monitor reviews of Fury X2 for a month and decide on it then.
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>>51609050
>>>/v/

and fucking off yourself while you're there. You fucking degenerate dickhead.
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>>51609176
I have never read about 2x295 or Fury X2. They need Crossfire mobo but does the actual card act like two cards in practical use? or does it work as single card in practical use?

Because some games dont work well with crossfire so it might not even be the best single card for gaymen.
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>>51609232
Dual chip AMD cards work as two cards, not one. AMD tried to make the driver fool games into treating Crossfire setups like a single card a few years ago, but that ended up with thunderous stuttering, which has been mostly solved.

That being said, Crossfire was mandatory for the 295X2 in most cases. It's only with Radeon Crimson that you can now, after nearly 1 and a half years, force the 295X2 use a single GPU for games that don't have a crossfire profile.

I, for one, think the 395X2 or Gemini, or whatever the fuck they'll call it, will be a great card. It'll have the same option of turning Crossfire off, but it'll be nice and fancy knowing you've got that second gpu, only two clicks away. All in a nice, premium package.
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Retards please, AMD recognized the problem, that occurs to some people, and are gonna fix it today or tomorrow with a patch.

Atleast AMD is admitting things and fix it up.
It shouldn't have happened, but one can't test millions of scenarios beforehand.

Nvidia on the other hand just try to deny everything and cover it up.

It's incredible that even with that 3.5+0.5GB story Nvidia is gaining market shares.
And now with that shitty geforce experience which forces you to go to the cloud to get up to date drivers.
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>>51609283
>>51609283
>It's only with Radeon Crimson that you can now, after nearly 1 and a half years, force the 295X2 use a single GPU for games that don't have a crossfire profile

So basically half the card is wasted unless you play games where Crossfire actually works?

This was my main concern, and of course it's dimensions. I got mITX, does that monstrous thing even fit in there..
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>>51609316
Which case?

>>51609305
The best thing to do is to ignore them. This whole thing originated from reddit neckbeards.
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R9 380 4GB or GTX 960 2GB.

I need it for video mixing and 3D rendering.
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>>51609424
250D
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>>51609305

Im waiting on my XFX 390 to arrive and im super happy about it. Gonna sell my current 770 and live a happy live.
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>>51609455
Nope, your case is missing 2cm needed. Though keep in mind how small the PCB for the Fiji cards are. I dare say it will be quite small in comparison to any previous dualchip card.
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>>51609618
looks like new case it is.

might as well upgrade mobo then to get a non mitx motherboard this shit has got less pins on pci-e or some shit i read when i was reading on overclocking
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>>51609475
Enjoy your life man, I'm happy for you.
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Good tutorials on watercooling?

Good tutorials on optimizing airflow?
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>>51609712
Dunno about watercooling.

But airflow. Have more intake then exhaust. and manage your cables. I don't think there is much else to it.
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What's the difference between an 8 gig 290x and a 390x? Is it only the slightly higher clockspeeds on the 390x or did they change anything else?
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>>51609777
>Have more intake then exhaust
For what purpose? I have two intake and two exhaust fans. Should I remove one exhaust fan?
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>>51609814
Positive pressure in your case.

Neutral is okay but Positive is better and you never ever want Negative pressure.
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>>51609814
>>51609814

>Should I remove one exhaust fan?
Maybe not. But the idea is that positive pressure will help with dust management. If there is a tiny bit more pressure inside the case, the air will try to escape the case, rather than the reverse.
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>>51609827
But why? Isn't moving the hot air out of your case just as important as getting cooler air in?
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>Not one mention of 196.75 in the thread
Figures, I wondered where all the AMD drones had come from and it seems like they had taken 1 visit to wccf and think they know everything about the industry.
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>>51609806
I have a similar question, why does the 390x exist?

It only offers usually less than 10 fps than the 390 but costs nearly 100 dollars more
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>>51609806
290X 8GB is older, and comes at a premium price, as Sapphire thought it was a good idea.

390X has better binning and better clocks I think. Also, more variety in cooler options. But honestly, if you're thinking of a 390X, you might as well bite the bullet and get either a 980 or Fury. 390, or bust.

>>51609878
Its a premium product. AMD are in-fact capable of releasing a premium product. But the issue with most 'premium' products is, The customer is willing to pay the better price for better. It doesn't have to make mathematical sense. This is marketing.

>>51609856
Its mainly about dust management. Your fans will be able to haul the air out of your case fine, but having the peace of mind, knowing your case is due less often for a clean out. Its almost liberating.
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>>51609870
I don't think anyone cares here. There are literally 3 containment threads for that shit right now on /g/. Go shill there.
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>>51609895
I can get an 8 gig Sapphire R9 290X Tri-X OC for 329 EUR. The 390X are at least 100 EUR more expensive. Even the 390 are 20 or so EUR more expensive.
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>>51609971
Alright then, Take tha plunge nigga. Its basically the same shit.
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>>51609971
>Even the 390 are 20 or so EUR more expensive.
On newegg there was a 390 for $300 but now the only one left is $307
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My 7870 is crashing over and over:(

It was happening before the new drivers on occasion I think, so i'm not sure if they are the reason

I should just buy a new card right? I need my precious vidya without it all I can do is shitpost on the internet
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>>51610035
380 4GB is a good choice, especially for you. You will appreciate the newer features.
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>>51610056
That was the card I just googled, seems very popular atm

Thanks for the thread!! I'm sick right now with the flu and so is my PC so i'm a bit down but i'll save the cash to fix my baby
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I bought a Sapphire Nitro 390, but now I'm worried it'll be too weak to use it for VR.

Should I sell it and get a Fury?
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>>51610129
Sell it and get a Fury X2.

VR is fucking demanding. Luckily, Dual GPU setups are literally perfect for it.
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>>51610145
>Fury X2
Man, maybe I should wait for next gen GPU and just stick with the 390. I'd probably need a new PSU as well if I got a Fury X2, I doubt my 650W Seasonic would be enough to power that.
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Whenever I ask people say that a GTX 980 is overkill for 1080p gaming and telling me to get a GTX 970 instead. Is this true? Is the extra power from the GTX 980 a waste for 1080 gaming?
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>>51610180
I upgraded to 980Ti before knowing shit about Fury X2

I have insane buyers remorse now.
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>>51610206
980 isn't enough for 1440p.

980Ti is barely enough (40ish fps on modern games) for 1440p.

980 is fine for 1080p.
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>>51610206
Honestly, for the small number of games that will actually exceed 3.5 GB, yeah. 1440p is really where the 980 should be unless it's a really demanding game like TW3.
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>>51610238
>>51610228
The best card right now for 1440p is the Fury.
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>>51610260
>>51610260
How on Earth do you make that claim when you are against 980Ti that overclocks way better?
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>>51610287
AMD shills, when will they learn?
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>>51610287
Read this>>51610260
Again. Notice a lack of a certain english letter.
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>>51610298
What the fuck holy shit do I need to fucking update my 980Ti to a better 980Ti now

Fucking christ and cocksuck
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>>51610298
Direct link: https://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_980_Ti_Waterforce/23.html


Review published literally 4 days ago so they're using the updated card killing AMD drivers
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>>51610311
What? The Waterforce is overclocked to over 1300 MHz boost clock. That's a piss easy overclock that you could do in a few hours.
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>>51610323
There's nothing else that explains that performance boost just simple overclock?
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>>51610309
But the Fury (non-X) is still fucking expensive. It's 530 - 650 EUR over here. Might as well get an 980TI. The Palit Super Jetstrem is available for 706 EUR.

The only advantage the Fury (non-X) has is that it can be unlocked to a Fury X if you're lucky.
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>>51610354
Nope. If your cooler can handle it nearly all 980 Tis can make it close to 1500 MHz boost clock even.
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>>51610372
im gonna fucking drop this gpu to freezer and rev it up then
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>>51610354
That's a factory oc son. You can overclock it even further.

From experience reference card tops out at 1450, custom cards can do what the chip is actually capable of, so 1550 and beyond if you're lucky. 1500 is the average for non reference cards.
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I have a 750w psu connected to an ssd, Hdd and powering my i7 3770k (not overclocked yet) and its OCK Frío cooler
It works perfectly, some months ago I bought a GPU, Sapphire r9 290 tri-x (3 fans, not 290-x though)
Could the three fans and thus the GPU consume more than the 750W expected from itself and the rest of the system? Is it posible that its performance is reduces due to that?
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>>51610472
Ridiculous. If the PSU couldn't handle the power you'd be seeing obvious instability, not lowered performance.

I think you're just not impressed with the 290.
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>>51610472
>Could the three fans and thus the GPU consume more than the 750W expected from itself and the rest of the system? Is it posible that its performance is reduces due to that?
No way. Your system shouldn't be consuming more than 500 watts.
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Where is the hotfix?

I hope the guys at Radeon departements have been nonstop working to fix this little devastating bug.
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PEOPLE. Nitro 390 or MSI 390? This is important. My pc depends on it
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>>51611055

Whichever is cheaper. I prefer the look of the nitro myself.
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>spend 290€ for a 380X or 230€ for the normal 380?

is the X worth the price?
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>>51611077

From a strict price vs performance perspective? No. However the extra grunt really is helpful when going for max settings at 1080p (or having a crack at 1440p).
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>>51611103
not planing to play on 1440p monitor in the near future

the thing that i care the most it fps stability even if i should sacrifice some graphic quality
but i dont know if the difference is really worth more 60€ or its better to pick the 380, wait 1-2 year and upgrade it to one of the new 8nm VGA
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>>51610311
Yes my boy, your old card is aged now.
Time to upgrade to the newest Premium GeForce (tm) card.

oy vey
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>>51611077
You should be able to find a 290 or maybe even a 290X for 290€.
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>>51612034
and its worth the money over a 380/380?
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>>51612102

A 290 is a whole performance tier above a 380x.
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>>51612257
If you release the power limit on the 380X, and maybe add a OC on stock voltage, the 380X is coming close to a 290 in performance.
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>>51612278

I would say that is reasonable but equally unleashing a 290 will put it far, far out of reach for a 380x.
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>>51612296
That's called a 390.
Anyway, that's possible, but not as easy. You'll have a hard time exceeding a 100 MHz overclock on a 290 at stock voltage. Plus, it shows hardly any boost from releasing the power limit, as it is naturally much higher.

But what I am trying to say is that the 380X has a lot of unused potential in it. It IS limited by the power budget it has, and throttles, not because it hits a thermal limit, but because it hits the 190W wall it has at stock settings. It also overclocks a fair bit. You should be able to get 20-25% more power out of it without even touching the voltage.
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>>51606940
underrated post
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I currently have a GTX 760 is it worth upgrading right now ? Or should I wait
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>>51612278
yes, but why buying a 380X and working on it to come close to a 290, when you can directly buy a 290 for only 10€ more, or even a 290X for 30€ more?
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>>51612590

The 960ti is coming out soon, I think it might be a good card. A successor to the 560ti in price/performance goodness.
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is this right?
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>>51612622
If you can still buy a new 290/290X with a good aftermarket cooler, by all means, go for it.

Where I am from, they are priced almost the same as a new 390/X, and there is no reason to get those over the newer cards.
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>>51612663
That's bullshit.
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>>51612501

> You'll have a hard time exceeding a 100 MHz overclock on a 290 at stock voltage

Nobody cares about stock votlage with unlocked cards - it is entirely a matter of how much voltage you need to hit desired clockspeed.

>380X has a lot of unused potential in it.

I agree - I can understand why AMD made it stay at 190w or below as a higher pwoer target puts its pwoer draw within reach of a 290 at which point 1) idiot reviewers will claim its a housefire 2) smarter buyers will ask themselves if it is worth spending that little bit more and getting the more powerful card.
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>>51612663
Technically correct but not very future proof
>muh R9 280x is better than this r7 760x :^)
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>>51612663
>inportence
kek
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please help.
I have a problem with my 750Ti drivers, or atleast I think that is the problem:

I can run games without any problems for a week or so, but at any random day I turn on my pc and launch any game and I get something like 5 FPS in a game where i would usually get 70. Nothing else seems to fix this other than reinstalling drivers Again . I also have tried other driver versions dating back to May, but the exact same problem persists
>>
I'm thinking of upgrading to an R9 380
Unless there's something better I can get for $170
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>>51612841
Yo senpai i got a 6850 and I'm getting a 390 lmao
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>>51612841

For that price probably not
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>>51612841
Not new
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Why is SLI and Crossfire still a thing in 2015? Every game released this year for PC either doesn't work with with dual gpu's or you need to sacrifice something in order for it to sort of work, whether it's turning down shadow distance or turning off AA. Games like Witcher 3, which has been out for 6 months now, still have issues with both SLI and crossfire. If devs don't get a shit about dual gpu setups, why the fuck do people still buy them?
>>
Please AMD, stop fucking up things.
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>>51612898
crossfire is the one that never works.
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>>51612898

SLI and Crossfire shouldn't have so many issues by now but here we are. I don't think I'll ever bother with anything other than a single card solution, especially with how expensive it is to SLI/Crossfire with respect to the performance increase and the rise of issues that comes with it.
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Should I get a KFA2 GTX 970 for 295€ or a Sapphire nitro 390 for 330€
I really can't decide
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>>51613150
>I don't think I'll ever bother with anything other than a single card solution
After owning a 290x Xfire for a little over two years now, this will be the first and last time I ever touch a multi card setup. The headaches are just not worth it.
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I tried to play some of my games just for fun using my IGP (Iris Pro Graphics 6200) instead of my dedicated GPU

I'm surprised by how well things ran on 1080p, games with low resource demands like DOTA 2 even ran on stable 60FPS with everything "maxed out"

If my GPU dies now I at least would be able to continue playing all my games using only my IGP, which is kinda nice
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>>51613182
390 if u want a better performance, 970 if u want to pay less for electricity and fans
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>>51613288
Ok, that be the 390 then, thanks man
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>>51613182
>>51613288
390 if you like the soothing noises of jet engines and the cool temperatures of dubai. also, you'll probably need to buy a new PSU if you go for amd
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>>51613373
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>>51613373

JESUS ANON RUN
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>AMD driver download links are dead
lol
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>>51613410
lmao what the hell is this bullshit, i've worked with a 780ti and never seen idle go above 30 and load temp that fucking high
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>>51613482
reference cards use that shitty blower.

not that 5 degrees makes a fucking difference one way or another. you'll get a much greater variation just moving to another latitude.
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>>51613410
>compares reference cooled cards to aftermarket 3rd party custom coolers
lmao
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>>51609452

Anyone?
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>>51613545
you'd get way more bang for your buck out of a 380x
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>>51613274
I was on a p8p67m mobo for so many years, I forgot what it was like to have integrated graphics. Sending my GPU in for repair meant no more computer for the longest time.

But with my new build it's like "what ever no sweat" i won't even have to sacrifice displays since I have exactly one DP, HDMI and DVI and that's what my mobo has out natively.

It's fuggin nice
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>>51613591

Its just got released, right

There will be at least 100% price range different with 380 because my country is full of jews.
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>>51613792
ahh, then strictly speaking the 960 wins out but i'd be loath to have only 2gb of VRAM
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>>51613820

Some people said more VRAM are better for 3D rendering but i don't know how really.

Both 960 2GB and 380 4GB are on the same price range in my country.
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>>51609452
>>51613820
>>51613792
Doesnt 3D rendering and video mixing take up a lot of RAM? I would suggest 380.
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>>51613942
>Some people said more VRAM are better for 3D rendering but i don't know how really.
Because you can feed it more polygons when rendering with the GPU.
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>>51613958
>>>51613792
>Doesnt 3D rendering and video mixing take up a lot of RAM?
A shit ton, geometrically scaling with the number of vertices.
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When is Pascal coming? Was going to upgrade my 3gb 780 this Black Friday, but decided to wait for Pascal instead since no games I play right now even need anything better.
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>>51613958
>>51613965
>>51613985

Looks like im going with 380.

is HIS a good brand? its $40 cheaper than Sapphire's 380.
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>>51614154
q2 2016
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>>51614176
they're alright. customer service more of a pain to deal with than sapphire.
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>>51597914
https://youtu.be/ruCr6OXbK5E
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>960Ti
Been waiting for this
Wake me when the EVGA SSC edition hits
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>>51614189
Hmm alright, I can definitely wait then. I just hope my 780 resell value will stay decent.
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>>51598322
will this anoying shill never go away? why can´t he post with trip code or ID so i can filter him..
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>>51614527
you could filter by the combination of words
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>>51614560

If you filtered the 970 shills from /g/ there'd be nobody left posting save for that one person trying to convince a dead board that arch is a superior OS.
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>>51598322
390x if u want a better performance, 970 if u want a smaller house fire chance
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>>51613260
having had dual HD5850 i feel your pain bros. the only reason it's still a thing is because the manufacturer wants to shove two cards down your throat instead of one.
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>>51614907

The 390x is competing against a 980 so naturally it is more expensive than a 970.
>>
Are Inno3D cards any good?
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>>51611077

230 for a 280X
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Will a 750W PSU be fine for a single Pascal GPU? Currently building a new PC and I was using a pretty shitty PSU on my old one. Gonna upgrade my current GPU when Pascal drops, but I'm also buying a PSU soon and there are some decent cyber monday deals.
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I was gonna get a 280X, should I wait for 960Ti?
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I ordered a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB G1 to replace my old GTX 580.
Should I uninstall the 580 drivers before putting in the new card?

Also memes aside is .gif related true? Never tried AMD.
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>>51616013
>cars are on fire and have drivers

Those ar nvidia cars
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380X for 270 €bucks, yay or nay?

I'd rather spend 40 less and get a 280X but since it's an older card and doesn't have VSR and freesync I'm not sure
>>
Was there a point when sli and crossfire weren't buggy unoptimized pieces of shit?
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>>51616116

No - directx barely supports it today, let alone further back when it was rarer and even less game engines supported it.
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So I can get a second-hand year-old Gigabyte WF 970 for 275€ and a new XFX XXX 380x for about 255€.
Which would be the best option?
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>>51616755

>970

Joking aside it is the faster card.
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>>51606068
Nvidia bro here. Feels good.
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>>51615887
in USA maybe, not in europe
in europe the base 380X is 280€ and the overclocked one 290€
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Looking to replace my 670... I'd like to spend around $300. What cards should I be looking at?
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>>51617479
R9 390 or the 970
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How come the 390 has such shittier passmark scores than the 970?
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>>51617622
Passmark isn't a viable GPU benchmark. Nobody actually uses it, ever.
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>>51617622

Passmark also has a 690 scoring higher than a 680 because as >>51617672 says uits a useless piece of shit.

It is barely a good benchmark for cpus, let alone gpus.
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>>51617672
Well, it's a benchmark for office computers, even the video performance part.

If you want to benchmark gaming systems, you use either the games you want to play, or 3DMark.
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Is my video card dying?
Windforce GTX 770

Every once in a while, there are very thin horizontal red lines that go across my screen. They only pop up and immediately go away, they are in random places.

It doesnt do it all the time, but its done it 2-3 times this week and is doing it now.

I have a dual monitor setup, it only does it on primary monitor and never the secondary.

It is not a heat thing, I have played 100 hours of Fallout4 and did not do it once with max GPU load temps at ~63c. It is doing it now while just browsing /g/.

Im pretty confused about it.
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>>51615908
Good choice. Just don't never buy AMD GPUs, please.
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>>51617777
This. Their drivers are shit and will literally fry your GPU.
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>>51617764
I should also say I bought the card right before the 970 came out on sale, and that I have not abused it. I barely even game on it, 200 hours in terraria and 100 hours in fallout 4 is the vast majority or gaming wear I have done to it.
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>>51617764

In b4 you bake your gpu to reflow the solder

>>51617777
>>51617789

Remember when months ago everyone jumped on the 960ti hype train....only for it to turn into the 950? lel
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Guys, what should I replace my R9 270X with?

I'm looking between the GTX 970 or R9 390. My CPU is an i5 4690k.
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>>51617820

A 390 is roughly as fast as 270x (aka 7870) crossfire.
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>>51617820
r9 390 if you like housefires

970 if you won't ever play above 1080p/or with graphics mods
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>>51617820
970. AMD's shit drivers will destroy a 390.
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>>51617820
Wait for Pascal.

390 gets raped by drivers.

970 is going to get gimped hard in 6 months.
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>>51617849

Thats okay, Nvidia's drivers kill more than a gpu.

http://modcrash.com/nvidia-display-driver-damaging-gpus/

http://www.zdnet.com/article/warning-nvidia-196-75-drivers-can-kill-your-graphics-card/

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/laptops/news/windows-10-is-killing-nvidia-graphics-cards-720443

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/862417/geforce-drivers/windows-10-geforce-drivers-are-killing-samsung-and-lg-notebook-lcd-display-panels/
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So I'm upgrading from a r9 280 to 970, but I only needed a 600w for the 280 with my 4690k OC'd to 4.4ghz at 1.2v. I don't really plan on overclocking the 970 for a little while (just got it for a triple monitor set up), but I should be fine with the PSU for now right?
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>>51617956
>buying a 970

get a 390/390x/980 you fucking kek
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>>51617998

The 980 is a terrible buy as the good versions float around the price of a fury and fury is considerably faster.
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>>51618026
not getting a meme refurbished one for 400$
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I'm planning on replacing my 680m with a 980m, bit have been thinking of switching to AMD since they have directx 12 support for better longevity. I know nothing of AMD mobile graphics, and my checks on their website show their top of the line being in the macbook pro and having 4gigs of vram. Does AMD have any mobile gpus that are competitive with the 980m?
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>>51618053

If I wanted a used gpu i'd hunt down a used 290x lightning and clock that shit so high i'd need a ladder to plug it in.
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>>51617998
The 390 would require me to upgrade my PSU which would have added another $70+ to the cost. 980 is Almost $150 more and the 390x is pretty much the same price too. Paid $279 for the 970.
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>>51617849
I can't find anything on Google about 390 being destroyed by drivers.

I'm just going to be playing in 1080p only.
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>>51618099
600w is more than enough even for a 390x. Stop listening to lying psu shills.
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>>51618099

If you can run a 980 you can run a 390.
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>>51606829
update: the fucking 290 went up in price
god fucking dammit
it's okay though a buddy has a used msi r9 290 that i'm gonna buy for $200
fuck newegg
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>>51618135
The 980 is past my budget. I wasn't looking to spend more than $300. I wasn't sure many watts my OC'd 4690k would use and when I outervision.com/power-supply-calculator it has the 390 around 556 recommended PSU which was pretty close to my 600.
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>>51616217
And yet /g/ is full of people who still go with sli and crossfire.
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>>51618179
>http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
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>>51618179

The average draw of a 390 is in the 250w range, a OC'd intel chip will be around 140w unless its balls to the wall (drives and fans are single digit wattage).

A good psu will easily deliver what it is rated for.
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will the 960ti be faster than a 970?
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>>51617274

But I said 280X, not 380X.

The 280X is a faster card, it's better if you don't mind missing out on some modern features.
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>>51617789
>Their drivers are shit and will literally fry your GPU.

If you're retarded maybe.
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>>51618288
nice damage control, someday you will earn enough flipping burgers to get a real graphics card you kek
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>>51618320
>parroting memes and acting like a child is all Nvidiots are good for

This is just sad, anon.
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>>51618273
oh, sorry, too much numbers around in those damn GPUs XD

anyway, what tipe of modern features?
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>>51618718

Freesync for vidya, more VSR resolutions, better powertune, better tessellation performance are the big ones.
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One question:
A few months ago i made my first own build
When i installed my 970 i was scared that it would bend because auf the size and weight.
And now its happening.
Though its still hardly noticable, the thought of permanent damage to any system component keeps me from sleeping.

I see all these nice builds but the cards are perfectly normal. How do you do that?
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>>51618776
>How do you do that?

Dont buy a shit Asrock motherboard
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>>51618776

How the fuck is a 970 bending? Pcie slots click into place and the rear i/o bracket should have a screw or something to hold the gpu in place. Its not like your gpu has 2kg of metal in the heatsink alone like some crazy aftermarket coolers are.
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http://support.amd.com/en-us/download

Anyone else having trouble downloading AMD drivers? Only the Windows 10 link works for me and I'm not using W10.
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>>51607643
LMAO
"We're going to replace the water in their coolers with petrol. This time there won't be any more complaints about drivers cause there will be no survivors."
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>>51618776
You have to figure out a way to brace it to get rid of sag
Depends on what card and what case, just use a little bit of common sense.

My card was long enough I zip tied the end of the cooler to the top HD cage, bringing it up a 1/4 of an inch so that the sag was gone.
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>>51618806
I assume thats a common problem since you guessed right

How is that never mentioned in the reviews?
And how is my asrock diffrent from other boards?
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>>51618895
Asrock tends to pack a ton of high end features into cheap to manufacture boards.
Its why they are so popular, bang for buck.

The PCBs are thin and the slots are weak.
Im sure its the same for other budget boards too, I just personally have had a few saggy Asrocks myself.
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>>51618846

Guru3d mirror drivers so you could go nab it from them.
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>>51618895
No the board doesnt seem to be the problem then
The slots dont bend
I was talking about the graphics card
It is bending down to the right because the left side is screwed to the case
And the right side is just hanging down
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>>51619029

Pics.
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>>51619138
Sry my phone is at 0
But im going to try
>>51618931
Thanks and goodnight
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building a pc to use with a steam link to stream some games in 1080p. looking at cards around ~$200, should i get an r9 290 or an r9 380?
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Got my MSI 390 installed earlier. Fallout 4 is running nice now, really happy with it. Currently on 15.11.1 drivers though.
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>>51619029

Fuck now you've made me paranoid that my graphics card is going to sag and break
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>>51618212
Seeing as I already bit the bullet and bought the 970 since it's TDP is lower than the 390's I should be able to OC it pretty well then right? Honestly coming from a 630m to a 280 I still like Nvidia's user interface though it sucks that I won't have 8 gigs to play around with. Especially since I'm running triple monitors. Suppose I could return it since I'm a premier member, but newegg takes forever and a day to refund the money.
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>>51619812

Maxwell doesn't respond well to voltage so generally speaking that 970 will OC as far as it can go on stock volts - just up the power target.
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>>51619648
290 is more powerful but also more power-hungry.
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>>51620172

It is easy to forget the massive void that the 380x has just filled that is between the 380 and 290/390.
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Hey guys do you mind if I ask for some help in overclocking my older Sapphire Tri-X R9 290? I have a non OC'd version (it was sold cheaper direct from the factory to overclockers without much testing during the Buttcoin shortages).

The highest I can seem to get it is 1050/1600 @ +75mV before I start getting little white blocks appearing in Unigine Valley. I am wondering how far I can push the mV to try ad stabilize the GPU clock rate to something closer to 1150Mhz. BTW lowering the memory clock speed makes no difference to the corruption I am getting above 1050.
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>>51620515

Keep an eye on vrm1 temperature as you want that as cool as possible. Ideally you don't want to go over +100mv unless you can keep core temperature under 70c but if you can, Trixx goes to +200mv by default.

1050 core for +75mv sounds like you lost the silicon lottery.
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>>51620249
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131685&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

so is something like this a decent buy for a build doing some 1080p living room gaming with a steam link?
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>>51613373
Literally running a 390X on a 480w psu. would not recommend it without monitoring but it's fine since 3 weeks.
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>>51620577
Yeah that's what I am thinking. I will try 100mV and see if I can get it a little higher though. Anything past that is into 'burn the house down' territory.
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is there anything wrong with gigabyte version of 380x? because it's noticeably cheaper around here.
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>>51618320
stop spewing so much shit. most non-shit gpus just throttle. also who the fuck messes with the overdrive settings without monitoring at least gpu temp?
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>>51620641

A 380x is a great card for 1080p all around - it will do ultra settings at reasonable framerates or high and probably get a 60fps lock in most depending on cpu.

Just make sure to up the power target though.

>>51620678

To a certain extent as you are getting so little out of the core it might be worth setting it to 1ghz (and stock mem clocks) and actively undervolting it - hawaii responds VERY well to undervolting (i.e power draw and temps can easily drop like a stone once you start backing the voltage off).

>>51620698

At a guess its probably voltage locked.
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>>51620741
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gHBdZL

this is the build im thinking of buying in a bit here, like i said im just shooting for 60 fps in 1080p for some living room gaming. mainly just trying to settle on a gpu and the 380x is now seeming like the best bet for price/performance. any suggestions for improvements?
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>>51620831
>seagate
this has got to stop. get hitachi
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>>51620831

Seems run of the mill to me. Though I would prefer faster ram if only because the likes of FO4 and a few select other games respond well to it.
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