/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>51568389
>shit headphones on a shit doll
Go figure.

who /TH-X00/ here?

>>51568405
>shit headphones

She isn't using the highly distorted DT880 pham.

>>51568427
No, she's using the nobass tinsimulator weebphones only retards with zero audio knowledge buy because a cartoon character wears them.

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>>51568425
can't wait for comfy Denon 2.0

The MDR-V6s are out of stock on amazon, feels bad.

My DAC specs said it have 2Vrms, is it okay to plug it directly to my headphone without amp?

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>>51568427
Nice distorted shit, weeaboo.

Note that the bass distortion on them is only that low because they have no bass to begin with.

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>>51568485
lol

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>>51568447
Post denons

>>51568503
>headroom
>le poorly measured 600ohm chart meme
Desperate weeaboo lmao

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Found some good music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwh6078A-VU

>>51568389
Is this:

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-429-Headphones-Black/dp/B005N8W1Q0/ref=sr_1_2?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1448688286&sr=1-2&keywords=headphones&refinements=p_89%3ASennheiser%2Cp_36%3A1253504011

about as good as this:

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-598-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B0126HISOO/ref=sr_1_8?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1448688203&sr=1-8&keywords=headphones&refinements=p_89%3ASennheiser

I'd like some good headphones but I'm having a hard time justifying $100 for a pair.

You have 10 seconds to prove the M50x isn't the overall best headphone on the market.

Protip you can't

>>51568568
Nigger bass

>tfw you own full-sized headphones in production that is more neutral than HD600s

feelsgoodman

>>51568568
Reddit

>>51568584
This tbhfam

>>51568584
great reply, full of substance like the last shit i took
>>51568601

Will the SHP9500 drop in price on Amazon?

>>51568612
That must be the crowning achievement of your life.

>>51568504
What earcups are those? I would post my AH-D2000s but they've seen a lot of wear and I desperately need to replace the earcups and leatherette on the headband, it's getting patchy.

>>51568568
They aren't open.

done

Dont know too much about audio things but in the market for a pair of headphones. Any recommendations for an actual pair of headphones to replace my crappy logitech g930 gaming headset? Also, what price range should i be looking at to actually see an improvement in sound quality? Please teach me, senpais.

>>51568654
Beyer 990 earpads

>>51568681
Read the OP

>>51568568
honestly I can't, they're bretty gud

>>51568598
What are they?

>>51568568
>SHP9500

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Real furry hours smash like if you up
Sent from my iPhone 5 dedicated media player

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>>51568679
>open
>good
What a memer

>>51568544
Come on guys. I've got a cart full of items and I'm counting on your advice.

It's not like there's anything else but shitposting going on in this thread.

So what music do you niggers listen to?

I'll go first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHjHQoxq9O0

I have the assumption that most of you listen to kpop or something retarded

>Budget:
~$100 (hard limit at $200)
>Location:
US
>Source:
Computer, Phone, Scarlett 2i2
>Preferred type of headphone:
over ear
>Open or closed:
closed
>Comfort level:
11/10
>Preferred tonal balance:
the flatter the better, warm otherwise
>Preferred music
well recorded
>Past headphones
Grado SR60i are the only ones of note


I'm looking for something with a removable cable so I can get a short one for when I'm using them on my phone and a long one at my desk. I've been considering the Audio Technica M50x, they seem like exactly what I'm looking for, but any other recommendations?

>>51568816
>ear-cup resonance
>good

fuckin kek'd m80

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>>51568816

>>51568832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqfFieDY14E

>>51568827
429 is not really close, 598 is worth it for 100 jew golds and a pretty good deal if you don't already have a good pair of headphones

>>51568851
DT 770 for $150 on amazon right now

>>51568763
fight me

http://www.kennerton.com/magister.htm

>somebody took the HM5, put some wooden Fischer cups on them and a beyer yoke
kek

Sennheiser HD558 vs DT770?

>>51569150
Λ-shaped vs V-shaped

Pick your poison.

>>51568291
Just someone with a passing interest in audio perception. Basically, an open back headphone that is resistive to leak effects, which is going to be most of the open circumaural dynamics to a point. There's another criteria that we can leave out, pressure division ratio, if we aren't going to personally equalize.
Are you generalizing results from a dummy head or a mean listener? I'd like to know more about the testing.

In people who aren't impaired of sight, lower/mid frequencies seem to factor into distance as a form of acoustic parallax and shadowing. Or did you want to know about it in general?
Not terribly accurate for some of the test subjects here, but you'll notice that a generic EQ works very well at improving distance perception, meaning that distance can be generalized to other listeners. Come to think of it, most result in binaural generalize well enough besides the median plane.
>Effect of Headphone Equalization on Auditory Distance Perception
>http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=17472

>If you're sticking mics into their ears to capture personalized directions
>At the moment we don't have a reason to.
Previous efforts come up with the conclusion that a personalized EQ is needed for maximum median plane accuracy, particularly in dealing with common front-back confusion. The increase in accuracy tends to improve the perception of space, and reduces the common problem of sounding in-the head. This doesn't explicitly affect much else than the median plane though.

Usually, when you deal with binaural errors, you rely on the visual sense to help adjust them out, but these subjects won't have that as an option

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ordered the Philips SHP9500, I understand I cant swap out pads as the stock ones are glued to the plastic which I'm completely fine with, but say for instance they become worn, and crappy, would I be able to cut out the old ones and some how put in a new pair that I can make or purchase?

HD 598 for $99 on Amazon. Y/N?

I currently have an old XB-700 which I think is starting to have failure in the cord.

Anyone know where the headphone deals can be had for black friday/ cyber monday online or in store?

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>$2,450

>>51569292
I was looking at those too.
Deal ends in an hour tho so I'm freaking out a little.
Trying to decide if I need them or if its just going to be another thing to throw money into.

>>51569238

Did you get it from newegg? Planning to get one soon when a good deal drops. Hopefully Amazon + international shipping because I'm not from Freedom land.

>Budget
$100 - $200 flexible within that range
>Location
Land of the free
>Source
PC and LG G4 maybe a different portable player if i need one.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
I think I would prefer closed but if it's a big difference in quality or something I'm fine with open.
>Comfort level
Comfortability would be nice but I can sacrifice for quality. I have big ears that stick out a little so on ear headphones hurt. Please keep that in mind.
>Preferred tonal balance
idk
>Preferred music
I like electronic but can also enjoy some strings and instrumentals. Also will once in a while listen to some harder rock.
>Past headphones
Been using Logitech g930 wireless headset for a while. Realize now that it has static and I dont use the wireless that much anyways because its usually charging.

>>51569238
To anyone interested in my pad replacement inquiry I found this http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1080440
all you'll have to do is either buy a 3d printer or get someone to print this.

>>51569363
Yeah, sadly I missed the 50$ sale, but was able to get it for 60$.
only downside is the seller seens a bit shady, but through a few email exchanges he reassured me their brand new in the box(hopefully it's the truth)

I hope a good deal pops up soon for you, maybe on Monday.
also what country are you from if you don't mind me asking?

>>51568832
https://youtu.be/T9H5RLV5Sd8
https://youtu.be/MVb1kKBKyrA
>listening to music
I just go round with youtube has to offer. Traditional I get my tastes from the radio, if I like it then I get the CD.
>have a dank video from 10 years ago
https://youtu.be/ohfVOpBbXs0
>>51569294
Some stores usually do both.

>>51569450

I'm from New Zealand, and we have good loacl prices (factoring in the 15% GST) on some electronics, but these Amazon deals are fucking amazing (up to 30-60% cheaper including shipping compared to local stores/local online). So far the lightning deals don't ship internationally but some stuff do ship here.

>>51568997
Ehh, need to be able to use it with my phone, a non-removable coiled cable isn't exactly desirable.

>>51569507
Nice!
always wanted to visit there, such a beautiful place.
I agree, have to sift through alot of garbage to find the really good deals though, do you have any relative stateside that could mail buy and mail for you?

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Any experiences with these? I'm thinking of getting a pair.

>>51569507
No dude we only have good prices on the HD800 because of our weak dollar. Everything else is still too overpriced to consider.

>$1,930NZD for HD800
>~$1,260USD

>Tfw you find a new good song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AkzRl2Ujn0

Where can I find this shit in flac aside from bandcamp?

>>51569586

:)
Yeah I do have relatives over at the states but that is a last resort and only if there's a really good deal that's worth hassling them for.

But yeah overall I think I'll do fine and just wait for a good deal. I don't mind buying the SHP9500 at $100 @ Amazon anyway since no one in NZ imports them. But that said, I'm pretty confident there will be good deals on other headphones as well if that's the case.

>>51568485
i think it's just a measuring artifact with the pads. you can see the q701 measures normally despite being basically the same thing as the k701.

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>>51569648
>FLAC

>>51568405
>>51568442
>>51568485
>beyerfags

>>51569692
>missing the point

>>51569742
Nah just using real evidence to counter bullshit claims by an AKG apologist/weeaboo.

>>51569648
Here you go bro, got it off what.cd just for you.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/j2vqgxorl46i0nj/AACe6_uMqQdsP8o_eGR8ENDNa?dl=0

Also I'll direct you to /ptg/:
>>51563405

Follow the instructions in the pastebins and you'll soon have one of the world's largest public FLAC collections at your fingertips.

>>51569808
Oh wow, I wasn't expecting anyone to actually just hand me a flac. Thanks a bunch. I remember hearing about what.cd like 5 years ago so I'll take a look.

>>51569760
What was the point?

>>51569586
damn my focus sucks right now

>>51569650
I understand, especially if you don't talk to them all that often.

Yeah you're right, hopefully you can snag something completely better for the same price.

personally I'm now looking for some really good deals on iems to replace my old RHA MA150s

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Bought Philips SHP2000 for $10

>>51569902
>that headband
Incoming headaches

>>51569908
i have aspirin

does /hpg/ prefer closed or open headphones?

>>51568405
>doll
It's probably a kigurumi.

>>51570019
Open at my desk, closed in public. Because I'm not an asshole.

>>51568539
How do you like the Audezes?

>>51570039
>http://haradaeiji.blog85.fc2.com/blog-date-201212.html
>doll blog
I don't think so, Tim.

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I read up a bit on these things and they seem to be Fostex drivers in a housing designed by GSC. Has anyone here ever heard these in person?

https://youtu.be/5Jrke3FWScU

>>51570105
Why don't headphones ever do cool stuff like that. Why is normal design in general always so boring and uninspired.

>>51570105
>GSCとLinkin Park
oboy

>>51570105
Wait that logo, is this made for some Nihei work?

>>51570200
Knights of Sidonia
>>51570179
I'm not too confident about the reliability of that folding design.

>>51569772
i hate anime you fucking nigger

>>51570263
Yeah but still, there are ways to make things durable and look really interesting at the same time.

So how do I go about adjusting my EQ? Should I just repeatedly listen to a exponential sine tone and try to make them all have the same loudness for my ears?

Whoa, over a 1000 purchases so far. Don't think I ever seen that many sales so fast on a expensive drop. Moreover it is a blind buy.

>>51570562
>Moreover it is a blind buy.
How so?

>>51570571
The vast majority of buyers have had no chance to demo a unit. The most they have are reviews from admittedly qualified reviewers who are probably not shilling, but still. There may be problems in mass production not present in the demo units. Problems that only arise one year down the line regarding wear or otherwise.

>>51570872
There are measurements up as well.

>>51570898
which speak nothing of the actual experience the headphone delivers.

>>51568568
The best headphones:
1) belong to the mid-range category (150-300€)
2) are open

>>51570988
Fidelio X2
MA900
K7XX

>>51570979
I seriously hope you are joking. Frequency response is 90% of what you will hear at least.

just ordered some beyerdynamic dt 990 premiums and was thinking of getting a amp/dac for them, any suggestions?

>>51571064
Obviously, but a graph depicting frequency response can not be converted into the actual experience of wearing the headphones unless you're some kind of savant. If graphs really conveyed the feeling of listening to your favorite music on a pair of headphones, there'd be a lot less conversation in these threads and the community at large.

>>51571186
Having listened to enough headphones and looked at their graphs, I can sufficiently be able to tell what a pair of headphones will sound like (in terms of frequency response) to my ears given the same measuring conditions. I'm not him BTW.

>>51571186
The threads are 99% recommendations and shitposting/shilling.

>>51571269
okay then, let's hear your appraisal of the th-x00s then.

>>51571272
what I'm saying is those things wouldn't be present if everyone could simply look at a graph and immediately discern their personal levels of enjoyment from a given headphone.

>>51571323
>let's hear your appraisal of the th-x00s then
Give me a graph and the source for the method. Sorry if I'm not familiar - I've only just gotten back on /hpg/.

>>51571030
Basically this

>>51571343
http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/fostex-th-x00-measurements-and-subjective-impressions.623/

>>51571343
Oh yeah and I didn't read the other posts or parts of them, but yes, I do think frequency response is not the whole story. There's a lot of things that non-subjective measurements can't tell you about the sound.

>>51571368
Do you know how he does the measurements? That would be some good info to know, as otherwise, I can only really evaluate the low end to any practically accurate degree. It looks to be punchy, but not too thick and warm. Can't say anything beyond 1k. Otherwise if I'm to generalize a bit and assume their measurements are like mine or those from Innerfidelity, I would estimate that there won't be enough high mids up to 6k, and after that, it will sound a bit harsh, due to my ears normally amplifying more at 8-11k compared to their ear model or my compensated measurements.

>>51571487
Also I'm comparing it to the perfectly neutral frequency response that would arrive at my eardrum from the ideal personalized sound source.

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Does Sennheiser have anime girls?

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>>51571620
I will murder you.
It wont even be murder desu, murder is reserved for useful individuals that aren't parasites on this world.
I would be doing society a favor.

/hpg/ do you know of any high quality but reasonably priced IEMs (so in a similar tier to the soundmagic E10s) that have rigid ends to go in the ear like the apple headphones?

All the models in this tier in the normal pastebin recommendations have rubbery ends. Asking for a friend so I don't have enough info to fill out the usual form.

>>51571487
>>51571509
I don't know how he does the measurements. But this just compounds my point that this sort of information paints an imperfect picture of the overall experience a headphone delivers and is no substitute for an actual listening session. What I was originally trying to say is that yes, to a significant extent the buyers of the th-x00s are making a "blind purchase" even if it has received praise from informed experts in preliminary phases.

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Sippin' arizona and listening to vaporwave.
I am become aesthetic.

>>51571698
I agree. More reason to not even, well, simply care about frequency response measurements (outside of really big problems, dips, peaks, etc), is that you can use EQ to change the sound quite accurately and precisely these days. Whoever doesn't use EQ either really loves the default frequency response of their headphones, doesn't know/believe EQ, or doesn't truly care about sound quality.

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Does anyone have experience building amplifier projects from this website before? Bob Katz uses the M^3 and it seems to have superb measurements.

http://www.amb.org/audio/

>>51571892
I remember nwavguy pointing out a lot of misinformation in their specs for one of their products which resulted in a lot of shitflinging.

Guys
Final chance
Upgrading from cx300ii
Shure se215 worth it? Will it be a significant upgrade?

>>51571887
Can EQ compesating roll off?

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>>51568503
>cherry picking DT880 distortion measurements
>K701 is still worse

Dt770 or hd598?

>>51571980
SHP 9500

>>51571980
Closed or open
Your call

>>51572001
hi leddit

Anyone know what the comfiest headphones ever are?

>>51572018
sony ma900

>>51569692
> >FLAC

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>>51571620
Their own? No. Seen plenty of art with anime girls wearing Sennheiser headphones though. Also I just googled "sennheiser hd 800 anime" and get this in the results, pic related.

Whats a good DAC for pc? All u hear is e11 but that is some portable shit

>>51571948
Some, but not all. I would consider roll-off a "big problem" depending on the steepness and where it starts. Most headphones in general have "big problems" in their frequency response, that can not be corrected with EQ, and that mostly has to do with the presence of huge roll-offs, especially in the bass regions. It is generally a good practice to weigh heavily the factor of good bass response.

>>51571670
they are called earbuds

yuin pk1 2 or 3

>>51571932
Please? I won't have another chance to buy them any time soon

>>51571932
Please? I won't have another chance to buy them any time soon

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>>51572018
beyers

>>51572280
>>51572281
Lol how

fellow hd 800 owners, i highly recommend you get a lint roller. owned my for a week now and was noticing how much lint can gather on these earpads. looks brand new now

>>51572288
>laptop

Retard

>>51572303
multiple shills using the same list of phrases

>>51572350
Why?

>>51572351
No all these are me.
Just wondering how it got posted twice and whether or not should I buy se215
Not that anyone will answer.

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>tfw akg masterrace

>>51572363
Buy a normal pc

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>>51572411
I have a normal PC, I built it.
I have 4 other laptops as well, why the fuck would somebody own only laptops or only desktops?

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>tfw akg masterrace

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>tfw akg masterrace

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> tfw akg masterrace

>>51568481
Which DAC? Maybe.

>>51572387
>>51572449
>>51572469
>>51572479
Shalom shill!

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>>51572490
>tfw akg master race

>>51568598
do tell

>>51572490
>being an antishill

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>>51572503
A K G
K
G

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>tfw akg masterrace

>>51572443
Why ate you sitting on your fucking floor and toying with your laptop when you could be using your pc

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>tfw akg masterrace

>>51572537
Why are you so butthurt over where a picture was taken?
lmao.
I was putting the laptop and headphones under my living room lamp for better lighting.
Damn dude you have straight up autism, see a doctor.

>>51572551

Slumming in the headphone threads, Cummy?

Y-Y-You haven't turned to the darkside of shit audio, have you?

>>51572564
Nope, I cover all the bases, you know how it do.

>>51572507
What, I can't say hi to a shill?

>>51572490
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the AKG Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Sennheiser, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top poster in the entire AKG armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across AKG and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed posting, but I have access to the entire arsenal of Akustische und Kino-Geräte Gesellschaft m.b.H. and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the anime imageboard, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

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>tfw akg master race

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>tfw akg masterrace

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Do I really need a "DAC" to get the "real" sound quality out of my $300 headphones (Senn HD600 and Philips X2)?

Personally I think it's snake oil similar to those who vouch for cable quality.

>>51572601
You don't really need anything for the X2. HD600 it is nice to have.

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>tfw akg masterrace
>sennfags
lel

>>51572387
>>51572646
>spamming for 30 minutes straight

Pity reply

>>51572667
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the AKG Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Sennheiser, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top poster in the entire AKG armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across AKG and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed posting, but I have access to the entire arsenal of Akustische und Kino-Geräte Gesellschaft m.b.H. and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the anime imageboard, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

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>tfw akg masterrace

>>51572584
>>51572687
>AKG Seals
>Not AKG Shills
Wasted opportunity

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>tfw akg master race

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e10s on sale for £19

>>51572725
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>>51572646
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>>51572449
>>51572387
I'm honest, all these AKG look super classy, but damn most of them are just too hard to drive and their headband doesn't seem very comfortable either...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-I1Dvu-yuk

oh shit dat looks so sweet

>>51572769
Its more comfortable than it looks to be honest family

>>51572769
AKGs are super comfy

>>51572769
Most AKGs are actually very comfy desu; they're a bit lighter than they look and the headband distributes the weight quite well.

I just dug out my old K242 HDs and mostly got their cable fixed. It's a very comfy sound, though a bit rolled off at the ends.

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>Front panel audio jack breaks again
FUCKING CHINAMEN AND THEIR THIN PLASTIC

PortaPro is down to $35. worth it but not as good as the $25 last year.
ksc75 has a slight discount down to $15, $5 off, same for sportapro.

>>51568466
just buy them used and replace the pads, you're going to be doing it anyways.

>>51572794
>>51572819
>>51572859
People also say that their soundstage can be too wide at times, which basically means that the instruments can sound really distant and dispersed

>>51569308
>all money invested in stylish enclosures
>throw in cheap drivers
>charge out the ass
it's a pretty common strategy. as long as it doesn't sound like absolute ass it will sell. and sometimes it sells even if it sounds absolutely terrible. just look that the original beats or ultrasone.

>>51572601
Upgrading from your perfectly functioning on-board Realkek DAC to get better sound is generally pointless as most DACs nowadays are already transparent.

Amplifiers are another thing. Quality of the output can make considerable differences directly to the frequency response.

Cable "upgrades" aren't a thing.

>>51569633
original titan is a great IEM, don't know about "titan 5" though

on that note is this another titan rebrand?
http://www.amazon.com/SoundMAGIC-ES20-Isolating-Stereo-Headphones/dp/B00EXMUQPU/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1448718405&sr=1-10&keywords=soundmagic+e10

>>51570504
Basically that. Graphs help set expectation, and so does having the loudness contour adjustment handy.

>>51573380
Driver is not angled.

>Budget
$60
>Location
Poor asia
>Source
Computer, phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Anything dude
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Doesn't have to be the comfiest of all. Just enough to not give headaches or be too heavy is fine.
>Preferred tonal balance
Sorry idk this
>Preferred music
Psychedelic rock, indie rock, electronic, pop
>Past headphones
Wore shit earphones since birth. Please help.

>>51573418
I don't know my headphone's (relatively unknown) FR but I tried my best to get all the frequencies to be at the same loudness.

Now when I switch back to flat EQ, the sounds are all muddy compared to when I apply my EQ settings. I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing.

>>51572866
just get an extension and run it from the back, that's what I did before I got a dac/amp.

>>51568389

Hi I need help picking a pair of headphones. I produce music so I'll be needing headphones that cater to that.

>Budget

500AUD

>Location

Australia

>Source

Standard 3.5mm Jack (Should I get an amp?)

No real preference on type of headphone other than that they should be full-sized, same with comfort.

>Preferred music

House, hip-hop

Can provide examples, I know that is very broad.

>Past Headphones

AIAIAI Capital, no real complaint, lost them.
Sol Republic V10 - sound is pretty distorted, music sounds completely different on them compared to my monitors.

Thanks for the help.

>>51573047
the only AKG worth buying are the k55x, k7xx, k612, and k240 monitor. I have no idea why people gushed for years over the like of k701 etc., they're really not very good especially for the price.

>>51573613
it's good, just make sure your new eq isn't excessively bright. most headphones that have elevated upper bass and lower-mids sound much less muddy/stuffy when you reduce that. I just did the same thing with my portapro and it made me realize how excessive the extra "body" is. after eq it still sounds dark but much more balanced.

>>51573586
gemini hsr1000/takstar pro80, CAL!, v6/7506 if you can afford it. good starting point for closed headphones.

for open: hi2050, hd668b, hd681, samson sr850, ath tad-500, portapro/sportapro/ksc75 are good and cheap.

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MDR-7506
MDR-V6
MDR-CD900ST

The hell is the difference and which one would you get personally?

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>>51573887
Depends on the price though. If all of them are at the same price, I'll take cd900st.

>>51573869
Thank you so much, anon!! These are a lot of options to choose from! Thabks

>>51573613
Really what you should be doing first is addressing your problem with the headphone, because the point is to get what you want, not what someone else tells you to like. But you seem to be in the stage in figuring out what you want.

Like I said, flat EQ by sine tends to not be straightforward. The ear has selective frequency compression mechanisms that manipulate the frequency balance of the sound that goes to the cochlea, the actual sound sensor. You have to learn to compensate for it.

As for equalizing your headphones after, you might realize that most headphones sound pretty subpar in frequency response

>>51573794
well I don't know AUS prices but I would say ath-msr7, my thinking that you want something close to flat with good bass response for that kind of work/music. you could go open and get something like the hd600 but personally I think it's a little too polite for production, more a listening headphone. and the bass of the hd600 would not give an accurate representation of what most will hear when it comes to house and hip-hop.

>>51573586
You need to help yourself first. Look up tonal balance, frequency response, etc. to be a little better informed. Takes like 10 minutes.

>>51572487
Are the 240's any good, looking at them at themoment and seem nice enough.

>>51573828
It's not like I'm caring about AKG btw, since I already own a Fidelio X2. I was just curious to know more.

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>>51573939
it would be easier to narrow down if you could give me a preferred sig, but none of those are so colored that they would make your average rock/pop sound bad.

>>51573887
v6 and 7506 are the same shit basically. the cd900st is for jap female vocals so if you listen to a lot of anime music get that one. personally I think the latter 2 work the best with most kinds of music. just eq down those upper mids and highs to your taste.

need help deciding between
akg k553 or AT ath m50x
Listen to rap and rock both priced at 160 -170

>>51574050
Is that PCM D-100 player I assume? Based on its bulku appearance.

>>51574049
well people do say AKG soundstage is unnaturally wide to the point of making things sound out of place, but that's usually associated with k701/2 dunno how much of this is in the other AKG. people usually put the hd800 on a pedestal for "best soundstage" because it's large with great imaging without sounding wonky like AKG. X2 has average soundstage for an open headphone, I think the 598 is a bit better in that department.

>>51574081
dunno. I think it's a sony field recorder of some kind.

can someone redpill me on amps?

Just getting into audio, got a pair of ath-d40fs which are perfect for my needs, but they have an impedance of 66 ohms and everyone says you should get an amp if it's over 25. That true? What difference will it make?

>>51574162
>over 60 Ohms you need an amp
Because of reasons, I suppose...

You need an amp/DAC only in the following cases:
>even by turning up the volume very high the headphones are less loud than you'd like
>your source produces a hiss or any kind of audible noise

>>51574162
>everyone says you should get an amp if it's over 25. That true?
It is not true.

Basically if your headphone has either low sensitivity, or mid sensitivity with low impedance get an amp. The biggest determining factor in needing an amplifier is loudness

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So I just got those Sennheiser hd 598s in the black friday sale on amazon and I had some ath m50xs to compare them to.

From listening to a few weeb songs I've determined that the m50xs are vastly superior if you want your music to pack a punch. The sennheisers sound a little muddled and kind of shit when I use my onboard sound. Through my external soundcard it sounds a lot better and they're almost comparable but the sennheiser lacks oomph in general. Without the soundcard or dac, I think the ath m50x is vastly better. The sennheisers catch up when you have that in the equation, but for the m50x the music still has more power and kick. Listening to egoist is much better on the m50x. I think the m50x is a much better value and the sennheiser's are not worth it at all at msrp. At 100 bucks, it's a decent deal. If the black friday deals are still up, I would get an m50x, because it's about 120 right now. Unless you don't want to change the earpads, because the m50xs sounds great but are uncomfortable as shit.

Obviously the sennheisers are much more comfortable so I expect to use it daily.

This is just an autistic weeb's comparison. I'm not a real audiophile. Just wanted to share.

>>51574034
They were by far my most disappointing pair of headphones. I would recommend going with a different pair. If you can afford a bit extra, go for the HD558s. If you can't, reference the list of headphones for the price range you can afford.

>>51574204
Thanks!

One more question. Everyone says you're not getting the best sound from your headphones if your source is just a computer or a phone. I use both my computer and phone with FLAC, and it already sounds very good. Is it supposed to sound better from a stereo or something? If so, why?

>>51572079
Damn shame. The HD800 deserves better.

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Probably ordering a pair of Sennheiser HD 558's soon.
I tried them in store today and they sounded a bit bass-y for some songs. Is that just me (been listening on earbuds for some time now), or are they really bass-heavy?
Is it worth doing the foam mod? How does it change the sound?

>>51574278
What headphones are satisfying to you?

>>51571824
>wolf t-shirt

I like how you don't even hide your fetish in public.

>>51572288
>3.5N
kek
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k

>>51574383
M50x though I can't have them on my head for more than an hour, HD558 though they leak sound like crazy at high volumes, X2, and HD700.

>>51574417
I heard changing the pads for the m50x does wonders

>>51568568
They cost double what they did a few years ago without any actual improvement on the sound, while the 7506, which was the m50 original competitor sitll costs 80 bucks.

>>51571824
>not sippin on lean, listening to screw
You are a massive fag

>>51574321
It's a meme. It's mostly a placebo, and even if there's a measurable improvement in audio quality, the benefit/cost make them not worth. Again, volume and noise are two very noticeable problems, but the mumbo jumbo used in all amp/DAC reviews is just what it is: people showing how full of shit they are.

>>51573988
Reading some reviews now it seems to fit the bill, thanks!

>>51574459
it costs 117.80 right now, just saying

That's probably one of the best price to sound quality ratio out there.

>>51568568
You need to change the pads for them to be remotely tolerable for long periods of time.

>wicked audio solus for $40
Did I fuck up
I have no idea what I'm doing

>>51574321
no. you could argue that the dac or amp makes a difference, but in most cases it is inaudible unless the device is unusually bad. coloration is more likely to be introduced by the amp than the dac but even then that will usually present itself as noise. so if you don't hear noise, you're good. even file quality doesn't matter much. 320kbps mp3 sounds the same as FLAC, you have to tank quality pretty severely (ie 128kbps mp3) for it to be noticeable.

kinda sounds like you got your info from places like head-fi where the assumption is if something is technically better it must be audibly better. that isn't the case. just make sure you don't have very low-bitrate files and that there is no noise and you're good. the production/recording of the source and the headphones themselves have a much larger impact on sound quality.

Alright faggots, let's settle this once and for all.

Virtual sound: yes or no

>>51574505
>wicked audio solus
Never heard of this shit, looks like gaymer garbage crap. Also the reviews are low. You probably fucked up but won't know the difference because you're a pleb anyway.

Will Beyer DT770 PRO 80 ohm be too quiet without an amp on a stationary computer or will it be fine?

>>51574543
It's a christmas gift for an ebic gaymur xD
So with that in mind it probably isn't too bad

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>>51574264
what you're experiencing is simply a change in signature, amplified by the fact that you're not an experienced listening. what you're missing is the lack of coloration that the m50x has that you're gotten used to. the 598 is not bad, it's a better headphone than the m50s, it's just closer to neutral and specifically the bass response is going to sound very different for multiple reasons. you probably should have done some more research. the m50x and 598 kind of have opposite signatures. I get that you fell for the m50x meme but around here they're actually considered pretty bad.

Mother needs some wireless earbuds to listening to the living room TV in a quiet manner... so...

>$20-$60
>US
>Source: Going to be wirelessly connected to a TV
>Preferred type of headphone: Preferrably earbuds, but open to all suggestions
>Open or closed: Same as above, maybe prefer closed, it's for my mother anyhow so not sure on that yet
>Comfort level: Pretty comfortable, would even be willing to go more past my budget to get something comfortable

>>51574516
Well, I have other reasons for wanting FLAC. Storage space isn't an issue, and I do want to make my own sort of music archive on a home server when I can.

>you got your info from head-fi
....I did, actually. I can't really complain, they led me to buy these ath-d40fs which are the best metalfag headphones in existence.

I'm also a foss fag so I won't use mp3, but maybe I will change over my phone music to ogg at least.

>>51574369
they're not really bassy but they do have a lower-mids and upper bass emphasis that makes it sound more muddy and veiled. this is caused by reflections from the foam pad attached to the grill. removing the foam effectively makes them into a 598, less muddy bass, less veil, overall more clear sound with a mid-emphasis. I would still boost the lower bass and upper mids a bit with eq though, that's what I do. keep in mind if you can't find the 558 for less you might as well save yourself the trouble and get the discounted 598.

I'm looking for a DAC and/or amp for my AKG K501 (120 ohm). Desktop use only, doesn't need to be portable.
My PC's audio is some rubbish VIA chip and straight from the output the headphones sounded way too quiet and "thin". As a temporary solution for the loudness problem I used an old Fostex MN04 but there's noise and obvious distortion when music gets louder (not sure if this is caused by the amp, or by the sound card but just not audible before, or both). The distortion is also present when listening to lossless audio, so compression shouldn't be the cause I think.

My budget unfortunately isn't very high. I'd like to spend €150 at most, preferably less (around €80 would be ideal). I'm not an audiophile, so I'm not looking for perfection. I listen mainly to classical and jazz.
Any recommendations?

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>>51574593
that's probably somewhat true, maybe I'll like it more over time. But I disagree that the m50x is shit. I've heard good response on it, even here.

Call them plebs or whatever you like, but there exists a good chunk of people that like the m50x.

My headset has contract the crackle, will resoldering the contacts fix this?

>>51574383
at this point the k240 is just a more expensive, slightly poorer sounding 668b. they measure very similarly.

>>51574494
lol, no. you can get the m40x for $100 all the time and right now for $65 from adorama, and it's a much better headphone. also the v6 was always better than the m50.

Any BritBros know anywhere one could acquire some sony MDR v6/7506's in the uk for a decent price?

>>51574593
I would say the 558/598 are very strongly flawed. Would not take without EQ.

>>51574672
Fiio E07k

>>51574558
Probably not, but I would rather not say for certain.

>>51574731
you're free to your own opinion, but you're wrong.

>>51571824
>>51574401
>>51574461
>no one notices the fuckin L size sticker still on this retard

>>51574638
FLAC is good for archiving but for portable use it's just a waste of space. convert to opus.

plus, as someone who listens to a lot of metal and has a lot of headphones I highly doubt those are the "best".

What is the best microphone for $50 or less?

>>51574050
I wonder why people keep saying cd900st for jap female vocals. Granted its headphone are widely used for monitoring, but I've seen m50 is used too on some studio in japan for recording.

>>51574812
Ok, could you recommend me an amp for the 80 ohm? I know very little about amps.

I've just had headsets in the past that most likely lack in quality so I wanted to get a proper headphone with good sound this time around, don't want it to get ruined by having no amp though.

>>51574638
Try listening metals in grados. I'm pretty sure it'll more pleasant than ath-d40f.

>>51574723
The crackle from where?

>>51574865
I said it probably be fine, and the Fiio I already said before is fine.

>>51574848
blue snowball from my experience

someone is probably going to say I'm a pleb

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>>51574521
no, unless you enjoy inaccurate audio gimmicks for gaming purposes. I play CS with plain old stereo and do fine. in my experience virtual surround doesn't really give you a wider soundstage, it just colors things to give you that underwater sound I associate with bose.

>>51574687
yeah and there exist a good number of people that enjoy beats and earpods too. It's easy to enjoy a headphone that isn't good if you don't have experience with anything better. all power to you for enjoying what you have, but everyone gets used to sound, that's how the brain works. frankly the opinions of someone who isn't experienced isn't worth much. look up any headphone on amazon, even the shit ones have people praising them up an down. the same thing applies to TVs, monitors, speakers, etc. plebs always think that everything that doesn't have a super obvious fatal flaw is great. a truly good headphone is more than just acceptable. a $7 hje-120k sounds as good if not better than an m50x.

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Sup homos :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7hsSFnJ1Og

>>51574834
Well, the best that aren't over like $200 anyway.
What would you recommend instead? For when I have more money and want another pair

>>51574879
I've heard those leak a lot of sound though. I wear them on the road and in public places a lot, don't want to be a nuisance. I'm not going to be like those faggots that make everyone else on the bus listen to "NIGGA NIGGA BITCH NIGGA" cause their headphones leak sound

>>51574879
you might as well get a portapro or ksc75 then. less money and doesn't have the fatiguing grado treble spike.

>>51574823
keep telling yourself that and you might fall for other head-fi memes like grado and ultrasone.

>>51574989
>a $7 hje-120k sounds as good if not better than an m50x.

Do you genuinely believe that? I might pay 7 bucks just to test that theory.

>>51574671
I can get them for a good €40 less, and I don't like the white chocolate color anyway. Sounds like the mod is super worth it then, thanks!

>>51568794
>>51572503
Hints:

Made by American company.
Full-sized over-ear open headphones.
In production.
Has a major design flaw for some users.

>>51572516
Fuck no.

>>51574951
yer a pleb anon

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>>51575058
closed and for metal? v6, pro80, m40x, CAL, a bunch of IEMs. In my experience as long as it has decent bass and upper-mid response, is not outright bright or mid-eccentric, and not excessively v-shaped it will sound good with metal. your options are even further expanded with current sales. you can get an m100 for $150. as for something that really excels at metal with it's stock sound? portapro or ksc75. but those are open. personally I think the X2 is the best metal headphone that isn't planar. if your headphone is anything like the m40x though it will be good, I couldn't find measurements for it.

>>51575293
>Has a major design flaw for some users.
That is?

>>51574521
If it was well done yes, but most implementations are anything but well done.

>>51575300
Care to make that more newbie-legible? Don't know most of those acronyms or models. You mean the Philips Fidelio X2?

>>51575350
>That is?

Okay, more hints then:

The design flaw is similar to some of the older AKG headphones.

>>51575273
yes. it has that bass oomph people like without the fatiguing nature of the m50x past the mids. it's also super comfortable. not as good bass extension but hey it's $7. shell out twice that and you can get a piston 3, then you'll be getting into the really good IEMs. as for headphones, all the standard recs below the m50x sound better. hell the $17 th-02 sounds better, even if it is kind of a mess build-wise. still, it's ultimately all preference, people like the m50 for the same reason they like beats, it makes boom booms sounds and that makes modern music sound "hyped" to plebs.

>>51574951

better than modmic?

>>51575374
Poor driver yields/matching, poor headband pressure distribution, poor leak management, extreme low sensitivity, there's more.

>>51575373
yes. and if you don't know a headphone just look it up on amazon. as for terms it's something you pick up over time from understanding frequency response. upper-mids, bass, mids, those are all portions of frequency response. how those portions are collectively elevated or lowered is what makes a headphone sound the way it does (for the most part). that is the headphone's "signature" (sig). a "bright" headphone has a signature that is tilted towards the highs and reduced in the bass for example.

>>51575429
Actually AKG has excellent driver matching. But their distortion figures are questionable, not that it's audible.

Okay, but you got it, poor leak management.

My headphones are prone to poor leak management, but I get a good seal with it and get sufficient bass. I was also able to do the same with K701/K702/Q701 while they were brand new and the pads weren't worn.

>>51574951
god no. a modmic or meteor is much better at $50. the yeti isn't terrible but the snowball is pretty crap.

>>51575281
amazon has (had?) the 598se for $99

Redpill me on the Fostex TH-x00 /hpg/.

>>51575502
unless you have something vintage that has only been measured like once I can't think of another open fullsized american headphone that is more neutral than the hd600. koss? audeze? grado? none of those are neutral.

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>>51575568
it's priced lower than the established "good" fostex, and it measures pretty well if you can believe one measurement from a forum. it's safer than buying old denons or a th-600/900 anyways. personally I think paying that much for a closed headphone is ridiculous. just buy a pm3 and call it a day.

So, have you been tricked into buying head-fi meme gear?

I got tricked 4 times, hopefully nothing too expensive.

>Got shitty JVC HA "carbon nanotube" on-ear headphones after head-fi raved about it
>awfully uncomfortable, cheap sounding, cheaply built bass monsters

>Get the Baldoor E100 "giant killer" earbud after hearing they were the best (currently rated #3 in global earbuds chart I think) since I like earbuds for portable audio
>awfully tinny, no bass whatsoever, uncomfortable, retarded shape, keep falling out

>Got the Sennheiser Momentum in-ear after hearing they costed 90 bucks but sounded as good as 300 custom iems
>terrible mud beasts sounding marginally better than my 10 bucks stock phone inears

>Got tricked again into buying meme earbuds, this time it was the VE Monk, the "5 bucks wonder"
>waited 2 months from delivery from china, sound even worse than my current bottom tier sennheiser I use in the gym and with lower volume

>>51575467
>tilted towards the highs and reduced in the bass for example
I struggle to think of a headphone tuned like that.

>>51575502
>AKG has excellent driver matching
It seems that way in individual units (channel tolerance), but they have many changes between units (standard deviation).
K701 doesn't even have that much of a problem with leak, but for an open back headphone it is high.

>>51575568
It's massdrop, so they take a while to ship, and if you don't get in soon, you will have to wait some more months to get it.

>>51575644
It's priced the same as pm3, with larger cups.

>>51575592
There's a few measurements.

Koss has the ESP950 in production but it's not more neutral than the HD600, they are excellent electrostatic headphones and I dare say better than STAX Lambdas.

Audeze and Grado made two quite neutral headphone but both of those aren't in production.

More hints:

There are measurements on InnerFidelity, GoldenEars and Headroom. I'm practically giving it away at this point.

>>51575666
just say what it is. I get the feeling you're going to say something that isn't neutral in the slightest.

>>51575502
>their distortion figures are questionable, not that it's audible.
K701 distortion is audible, as Harman's listening tests show.

>>51575654
>have you been tricked into buying head-fi meme gear
I try not to buy into obvious FOTM, and those are quite FOTM, besides the Momemtum.
The E100 was an explicit reddit meme.

>>51575756
The company's name starts with S. I thought you'd be able to figure it out based on my last post.

>>51575764
Which paper was it?

>>51575654
always look at measurements. I did buy the portapro, v6, and 668b on only impressions but thankfully those were all great.

>>51575756
Shure

>>51575789
>The Correlation Between Distortion Audibility and Listener Preference in Headphones

>>51575789
>Shure
nobass, bright. not neutral.

>>51575536

meteor, or the meteorite? Probably leaning towards modmic even though i'd rather have something of similar shape to the snowball or meteorite. i dont think i'd have enough desk space for the meteor. it would impede my view of the monitor.

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DX50 (With Rockbox dual boot) and DT770 reporting in.

I have 5 pairs of headphones and they're all shit.

>>51575808
I'll check it out.
>>51575843
It's only no-bass when it doesn't seal. It's not even bright. It has less sibilance and treble than the DT880. It's just really DF equalized and that may turn off listeners, especially when it can't seal for shit too. And DF starts from 100Hz anyways.

anyone know why my lyrics show panel 3 never find any lyrics ?

>>51575935
Because nobody has lyrics for your weeb music

>>51575917
Shure srh840?

>>51575935
>lyrics show panel 3

It's a piece of shit that's why. Musicbee is much better than foobar.

>>51575858
I have the meteor. it's good but does pick up everything, so if you want open coms with no desk noise modmic would be better. I just splay the legs on mine all the way and raise my monitor a bit. that way it's directly infront of the lower bezel. I don't use the modmic because I use an external amp/dac, modmic is best for front panel.

>>51575952
SRH-1840 (and SRH-1440).

>>51575976
How does it fare to srh-1540?

>>51575955
>Musicbee

No thanks my foobar looks nice

>>51575998
Can't remember much about the 1540, but it had significantly much more bass, and it's not neutral, most listeners will prefer the 1540 as well as it seems (going by measurements) to not suffer from bass leakage.

>>51575536
But I don't live in America, so Amazon isn't an option unfortunately. I'll at least wait for cyber monday though, maybe that'll turn up some sweet deals around here.
Is there really any practical difference between the 885 and 895 other than the foam though? Not that I know...

>>51574830
Its for his fat furry fetish

>>51576034
no, foam is the only difference. well the headband padding is different and the grills are a little different but that doesn't really change the sound.

>>51576029
I keep wonder how to get's the seal properly. Do you adjust the headband after you put it on your head without caring about uneven headbands?

>>51575975

i have no idea what you mean by open panel, amp/dac, or front panel.

>Budget
About $50
>Location
Brazil - 1 dolar = 4 reais(local currency)
>Source
PC desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
9/10
>Preferred music
Rock, electronic.

>>51576129
I adjust the headband based on the size of my head for the best comfort.

I feel that the shape of my head and jaw allows me to get a seal with them easily. Same for the AKG K701, as you know many people often claimed that it has no bass but now we know why.

Some listeners just won't be able to attain a decent seal with just adjusting the headband, especially on the K701 which can't be adjusted.

>>51575385
I bought those iem's

Hope I didn't fall for another meme

>>51576161
open comms as in not push-to-talk. your mic is always sending.
front panel meaning the front of your case where the headphone output and mic input is next to each other, the modmic uses a separate cable so you kind of have to have the two close unless you want a separate cable going off somehwere else. that's why I can't use it, my headphone out is in an external unit, an amp/dac that has no mic in.

>>51576225
I find them to sound muddy, I think the M50x is better but the Panasonic IEMs are quite good.

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my dad listening to my hd 800

>>51576244
Reported for parental abuse.

>>51576205
Where did you put the headband? On the sinciput or vertex area?

So /hpg/, I need some closed headphones, but not sure between the M30x's or the M40x's. Is the extra £20 really worth it for sound quality and comfort?

>>51576267
Vertex.

>>51576225
I have better IEMs and I still use them. they're a perfect "beater" IEM. if I'm heading out to the store or something I just slip them into my shirt real quick. very easy to take in and out of the ear and get a good fit. so if you often walk around and slip your IEMs in and out they're great.

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>>51576244
Is this the /g/ dad contest thread? r8 my dad

I bet he can beat the shit out of all your dads

>>51576304
>>51576243
sweet, I'm stoked pham

>>51576363

New thread.

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>>51576244
>what are ya doin, son? listenin to yer memes again?
>ITS NOT MEMES DAD ITS CALLED EAR-RAPE, just listen for a second.
>.......

>>51576229

I was going to be using push to talk for in game voice chats and the occasional teamspeak. possible future podcast use.

>>51576357
good now you're hooked. you'll want to buy every hype cheap IEM. you'll be drowning in IEMs soon.

Anything wrong with the A900x?

>>51576205
>Same for the AKG K701, as you know many people often claimed that it has no bass but now we know why.
I don't buy that explanation of leak.

>>51576565
Just look at the in-ear measurements of the K701 and K550.

>>51576378
shouldn't we wait for this one to start dying first?

What's wrong with iFrogz?
http://www.zagg.com/eu/en_eu/audio/ifrogz-little-rockerz-costume-headphones

>>51576612
K701 has more leak issues than most open headphones, but it is a only few dB more than typical leak. You can see this in the results presented by Welti when he proposed a new pinna design.
The subjective response of the bass only changes slightly in the virtual simulation method, and listeners managed to plot the bass level of the 701 as near the DF response on low leak mounting when prompted in another study.

BTW, K545 is even worse than k550.

>>51576799
Alright, I haven't read much of those papers but will do.

>>51576905
If you have free access to the papers, Sean Olive compiled some of the headphone papers in the AES library.

>>51575843
Neutral but heavy harmonic distortion.

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>Budget:
~$100 ($200 limit)
>Location:
US
>Source:
Computer (no amp, would like to get one though)
>Preferred type of headphone:
over ear
>Open or closed:
Either one is fine. would prefer open.
>Comfort level:
Pic related.
>Preferred tonal balance:
V shape that isn't too overemphasized

>>51575654
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/mouseless-browsing/