Computer science vs Software Engineering

>>51563063
Computer science

Because software engineering isn't an academic degree and you end up being a code monkey.

software engineering is a subcategory of computer science

One isn't science and one isn't engineering.

computer science - algorithms

software engineering - implementation of those algorithms into a larger working package

Software Science

>>51563153
>>51563113
one of these should end the thread

>>51563136
So basically SE is the plebcück version of CS?

EE is master race

>>51563063
>which is better to get into, engine design or working in a factory, assembling engines

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can someone tell me whats the difference? what does a comp sci do? that does a soft eng do?

>>51563169
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>>51563172
Well, duh

>>51563195
I'm pretty sure they end up applying to a lot of the same jobs anyway

>>51563172

You'll have more normies in software, many get some kind of business degree alongside it

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>>51563063
computer science is useless without the software engineers
Software engineers can't do shit without computer science

which is more programming related? CS or SE?

>>51563322
>computer science is useless without the software engineers

You're saying that computer science majors aren't able to practically apply their knowledge?

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>>51563195
>can someone tell me whats the difference?
Computer Science is all that stuff related to computability, alogorithms and data-structures, logics, etc
Software Engineer is all that's related to writing software, from managing the teams of developers, testing, documentation, the design and architecture of the solution to a given problem, etc.

>>51563063
Computer science because it is actually meaningful unlike being a code monkey and a pretend engineer.

>>51563359
He's saying that he's never heard of computer science nor software engineering.

>>51563359
>You're saying that computer science majors aren't able to practically apply their knowledge?
I'm saying an algorithm isn't really useful if you're not using it in a computer program, because you're not going to use it manually on anything. Just like most things from pure mathematics are useless on their own until someone finds a use for it in physics or on some engineering field

>>51563346
SE. But if you don't know a fair bit of CS you're a an uneducated code monkey

They're both a different approach to the same thing really.
Computer science is the scientific and mathematical approach to computation theory and software engineering is about applying engineering concepts to manage development.

>>51563375
>>51563258
thanks

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>>51563418
>But if you don't know a fair bit of CS you're a an uneducated code monkey
like what?

>>51563460
Not having a solid knowledge about algorithms, data structures and their computational complexity is one of the main causes for software these days being slow as shit.
And then you also need knowledge from the SE field to make sure you have a well designed solution to make sure it won't turn to shit after you edit something in your code, or if the requirements of the program change a bit.
You have got to have knowledge from both fields. Being a SE is not the same as being a code monkey for a reason

>>51563172
Technically speaking, SE is a kind of business degree focused on software development team management with a side of project development, integration and deployment.

CS is a field of research which is either math or science (depending on specialization) and is either concerned with finding computation/computability-related proofs (fields of tCS), with improving real-world performance of task-solving (this can either take the form of designing new algorithms, designing software to make use of special hardware configurations or hardware properties, or improving the constant factor for an existing algorithm) (another part of tCS; languages/compiling), or of solving as-of-yet unsolved problems (AI, optimization, simulation).