/hpg/ - Headphone General

>Budget
$20-$40
>Location
USA
>Source
Nexus 6 and some HP laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed preferred but doesn't really matter, i'll only be using these at home
>Comfort level
Something comfy, or at least something in the middle
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Preferred music
80s/90s stuff
>Past headphones
TASCAM TH02-B, they broke after about a month, and they were pretty uncomfortable

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Add the $200 and over guide to the wiki.

Add the microphone guide to the wiki if you want too.

>>51561401
Spend $50 and get MDR-V6 while it's on sale on amazon.com.

Got meme50x does burning in headphones make a difference and should I even burn mine

>>51561461
It does not make a difference.

>>51561461
burn in is a load of shit

>>51561461
>should I even burn mine
yeah burn them

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Hi /g/

My dad wants a pair of wireless headphones.(yes he wants them to be primary wireless for some fucking reason and arguing with him is equivalent of arguing with you)

I nailed it down to 3 choices:

1. Sony MDR-1RBT MK2
2. SONY MDR-1ABT
3. V-Moda Crossfade Wireless

Which one of these do you recommend for best build and sound quality ?

>>51561502
It's a legit psychological effect. If you're used to listening to a certain pair of headphones for years, it'll take some time for your brain to adjust to the new sound and properly enjoy it.

Electronics wise, it's usually bullshit.

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I just bought the Audio-Technica ATH-M40x at 67€. I'm planning to use them as portable headphones.
Anyone here had this cans? They are supposed to be more neutral than the meme ones.

>>51561620

Apart from the part where the diaphragms loosen up over time.

>>51561720
Stop applying things that are legible in large loudspeaker drivers to tiny headphone ones.

Even then, with loudspeakers, a difference in sound from the 'burn-in' is yet to be proven.

>>51561720
Only a bit.
Thermal effects temporarily increase compliance to a much more significant degree, but only temporarily. Even that is questionable.

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Thank you Germany.

>>51561720
So would blowing on them with a hairdryer.

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Sennheiser HD598 SE any good? Bought a pair for around $100 on Amazon. In my country they are usually around the equivalent of $350. Everything else also has stupid inflated price, too.

>>51561825
>that was 5th december like two hours ago

It got really bad after 6PM. Europe got out of work and that page got hammered to shit. I did the smart thing and spent all my work day shopping online.

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Syrup got me slowed
Syrup got me throwed

>>51561875
>shopping online all day when you were supposed to be working
>smart
enjoy your unemployment

>>51561851
I ordered them too. the HD555's they are based off were good.

>>51561908
>boss actually did walk in on me doing this
>I didn't even bother to stop
>later says he picked up one of the kindles

Then we had a discussion about how foolish this US import tradition is to Europe and general globalization.

tl;dr this isn't like America where people are too afraid to even take sick days.

>>51561908
You don't have internet access at work?

>>51561607
V-Moda.
>>51561667
Listened to them. Prefer them over M50x.

SHOULD I GET HD598 OR ARE THEY NO BASS MEME PHONES

>>51561973
Lmao I don't even go into work on most days, my boss doesn't even care.
When I am at work I'm on facebook and 4chan, various forums and shit.
I stand around on my phone, nobody fucking cares.
Merica.

>>51562016
considering that they "have the same drivers as the 558," and theyre cheaper, go for it

>>51562016

You are too late. They are sold out.

>>51561973
kek that reminds me of highschool years ago

>get bored of class, teacher is out, start playing meal or no meal
>principal comes in doing his whole 'walk around the school to pretend like i care about what's going on'
>spots me playing
>comes and joins me in in playing for a solid 15min while other people in class crowd around and join in as well

>>51561942
I've got the 518's, they sound good. Should I just expect a slightly better version of those?

>>51562064
Same drivers, HD518 is intentionally tuned to have a warmer sound signature. You can equalize them and get better sound out of it.

>>51562016
I had the HD 595 long ago. They were the most comfy headphones I ever tried, but yes, they lack bass in my opinion.

>>51562145
598's driver has better bass extension.

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WHICH ONE DO I BUY?!

>>51562197
HD598, the Philips does not have replaceable pads and it's less neutral.

>>51562197
>THOSE PHILIPS HEADPHONES
>$100
TAKE THIS LINK INSTEAD SENPAI
http://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIA08C3H14853?icid=WP_9999_11272015
I HAVE THE EXACT SAME QUESTION

>>51562193
It's not that much better compared to the 558.

>>51562221
>http://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIA08C3H14853?icid=WP_9999_11272015
AW FUCK THE 598's, I'M BUYING THIS FO SURE

>>51562241
I STILL WANT TO KNOW WHICH ONE IS BETTER, I CAN DEAL WITH THE INCREASED PRICE

>>51562197
both are trash, senns less so

What's the point of headphone holders? Why not just put them on a table or in a drawer?

>>51562276
literally autism

>>51561667
they are better soundquality wise. but I would be more worried about the comfort and durability
the m50x looks like it is pretty sturdy, but the m40x is almost fully made out of plastic

>>51562276
>headphones in a drawer

just threw up in my mouth a little.

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How much did I fuck up, /hpg/

>>51562406
Too much

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>Budget
$60 and below
>Location
Wisconsin
>Source
HTC one M7
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
I'm afraid of looking autistic in school
>Comfort level
Something that fits snugly and goes in deep, but I wouldn't sacrifice sound for much.
>Preferred tonal balance
A versatile, balanced sound is all I need. I'm not ready to go into really specialized types yet.
>Preferred music
Pic related, I want something that can play any type of music loud or quiet and sound pretty alright.
>Past headphones
Panasonic RP-HJE120 (the $6 ones that are the number one Amazon bestseller)
Synphonized NRG (shit gimmick style over substance ear buds)

I really don't know a lot about headphones, I've started caring a lot more about music and I really need better headphones, so naturally I came here.
>>51561905
Hey it's the furfag who defended my music tastes a couple threads ago, hopefully I can get a recommendation instead of derailing the thread with shitflinging this time.

>>51562374
>just threw up in my mouth a little.
See? autism.

>>51562350
Having taken apart a M50x, it's nearly all plastic, the shiny bits you see are stickers. Should be identically durable to the M40x.

Gonna buy an AMP for my HTC One M8.
My headphones are ATH-M50X, though I'm also looking for an IEM.
Thinking of getting the Fiio A3. Good price, and ratings seem to be good.

My questions are: should I get that amp and can anyone recommend an IEM opreferably under $115?

>>51561825
fuck man, I was about to buy these headphones but I'm broke at the moment
even tho I terribly need headphones, since my G35 headset only has left its left earcup and I use that shit thing almost 4 years now

anyone think that this deal will come back around christmas time?

>Budget
Under $40
>Location
U.S
>Source
Sero 8 tablet
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-size
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
Doesn't matter really, just need to make sure it doesn't feel like I'm rocks.
>Preferred music
Heavy metal, alternative, and some classical.
>Past headphones
Sentry Studio (current, really fucking good for $10, but broke easily) and Beats solo (stolen, but pretty good nonetheless).

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Reminder that the MDR-v6's "analytical" sound is actually a flaw where 3125hz has a terrible nonlinear waterfall. Filter it.

>>51562808
For the record almost all headphones under 150 dollars have terrible waterfall at some point above 1khz, and the MDR-v6 takes the cake for having such a clean waterfall and being easy to filter.

>>51562808
>CSD meme
Hi Changstar

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>>51562866
Want a home measurement instead? Here you go.

Are k7xxs worth it if I live in Canada? Our dollar is comparatively shit right now and after shipping and conversion fees it would put them at more than $250USD. Should I just get the 598s for around $80USD locally instead?

>>51562889
How about you post some measurements that are actually relevant to hearing.

>>51562919
But anon, that is literally relevant to hearing. That horizontal line, it's extremely audible and you can hear it.

>>51561360
just bought these, titally worth it for the price, atleast im hoping, ive never had open headphones before, ive onlt had the m50x so far, will I like the hd598???

How bad is the low end on k702's?

>>51562936
[citation needed]

What do you guys think of this?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0126HISOO?qid=1448665126&ref_=lp_13227331011_1_2&s=electronics&sr=1-2

Also, I know it's not the right general but I currently have a G35 headset so if I get this, I need a mic.

Any suggestions there?

Thanks in advance.

>>51562979
http://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Zm-Mic1-Sensitivity-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B00029MTMQ
here's an adequate one

My parents bought my brother the HD598s for christmas.
>Should I buy him an amp to go along with it
>Is an amp even worth it for the 598s
>What amp do y'all recommend

>>51561412

where's the sub 200 bucks guide

>Budget
Up to 200€.
>Location
Germany
>Source
HTC One m8
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible.
>Preferred music
Mostly rock and classical music. Some j/k-pop.
>Past headphones
Currently using Philips SHP 9000. They're feel extremely nice, and I don't think I could get used to something less comfortable.
Left side broke and I can't fix it, so I'm looking for a replacement.

Hey /g/ what do you guys think of the skull candy Hesh 2? If it's bad then can someone recommend something better that's around the same price range.

Wat do /g/?
DT770
DT880
DT990
AKG Q 701

The main aspect I want in a headphone is sound isolation so it seems the 770 is ahead in that regard.

However I keep reading as to how great the others are as well that I am wondering if I'd be sacrificing quality of sound by going with the 770 and skipping the rest.

What's the best bang for your buck AMP/DAC combo that will power pretty much anything?

>>51563535
880 > 990 = 770 > Q701. You won't be sacrificing that much for the isolation.

senn hd598 + fiio e10k

y/n?

>>51563641
what do you want the e10k for

>>51563568
o2 amp+dac revb

>>51563641
no

>>51562241
>>51562221
That seller on Newegg looks shady as fuck

His page lists autoparts as his main product sold, and he's got pages ot complaints from people who bought stuff

>>51563685
>o2/odac
>bang for buck
what is this, 2012?

>>51563676

sorry my question is if I need the e10k to drive the senn hd598s?

I'm new at this stuff

Guys I need a recommendation for iems fast please help
Thinking about se215 or sennheiser momentum in-ear? Or something else entirely? Needs to have good isolation and not cost over 100$.... Please help hpg, gotta pick something within a couple of hours....

>>51563706
No, they're fine with onboard.

>>51562975
Citation: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByPC8YrEafw8OTU0YjBEOVJSWDA/view

Recording of MDR-V6 making clicking noises. The crackle is part of the test. If you can't hear the waterfall at 3125hz, either you're deaf or your headphones aren't reproducing 3125hz falloff correctly.

>>51563744

ok thanks

Why doesn't anyone respond when you ask for a recommendation correctly?
There's like four in this thread and nobody has given any actual advice.

how'd I do, V-Moda M-100, $150

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A39PPCG

>>51563766
Because this is /exaggerating pros and cons and calling each other a shill general/

>>51562808
>nonlinear waterfall
That's not how that works.

>>51563568
Try a Schiit fulla.

>>51563703
ODAC was never a thing. O2 wasn't even that necessary.

>>51563491
Barely remember it, but it was pretty mediocre.

>>51563894
>That's not how that works.
Linear waterfall is decay that smoothly approaches -inf db, maybe with some poor time resolution so it has to attack in as well.

This here is definitely not liner waterfall.

>>51563845
Where should I go if I don't know much about headphones and want some <$70 IEMs?
Are there any good review sites that you use?

Can't wait to be freed from my ath-m50's oh god worst decision ever to get those. constant ear pain and head pressure every time I put them on for more than 5 minutes

>>51563718
SE215s

I might shill for Sennheisers but damn those 215s are amazing

>>51563955
>Sennheiser shill experiences bass for the first time

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Template:

>Budget
5000 MXN (300.75 U.S. dollars)
>Location
Mx
>Source
>Preferred type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
Whatever sounds closer to the music
>Comfort level
Mucha
>Preferred tonal balance
Flat - Bassy
>Preferred music
Vocal - Bassy
>Past headphones
Bose ae2

>>51563955
Yeah I've been leaning towards them
Is buying the mic cable worth it? Are they comfortable?

>>51563978
I own a couple niggerbass approved headphones but the 215s are the only comfortable IEMs I own

get yourself a UE9000 cable though, the stock cable is way too long

>>51564027
Not mic cable, volume controller cable

>>51562866
Since when was CSD a confirmed meme?
Don't think even the Chang guys would call that audible.

>>51563978
>doesn't realize the Sennheiser IEMs have more bass than SE215.

>>51564027
I opted for the UE900 cable instead, shorter, good mic and cheaper

nothing wrong with the Shure cable aside from the length

Is there a microphone with better quality than modmic for $50 or less?

>>51564059
>-24db (25% amplitude)
>inaudible

>>51564059
Nobody even buys Sennheiser IEMs

>>51563443
It's pure dogshit and was never a quality guide.

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>>51564089
12.5% amplitude but yeah, there's no way it's "inaudible". If it were, we would only need 6-bit audio.

>>51562599
furfag here, get piston 2s, 3s have no bass.
Just make sure yo get legit ones, anything under 25 dollars is probably fake.

>Budget
80$
>Location
Canada
>Source
into my computer
>Preferred type
Full-size
>Open or closed
I don't really care. I don't have much noise around me though.
>Comfort level
I don't care too much about sound quality just want something that isn't complete shit so I'm willing to give up sound quality for comfort levels.
>Past headphones
Plantronics audio 995H wireless
Don't know why I bought wireless but the battery life bothered me the most. I'd prefer wired now after dealing with that for 6 years.

should I get the mdrv6, people say they aren't for casual music listening, but for $50 I don't know why not

>>51564203
if you want them go for it
they're better than most sub-80 headphones

>>51564203
I had a pair. They have a very clean sound to them, I like it, but you might not.

>>51564242

that sounds nice, I have hd 558's I'd like an alternative to them

>bought a fiio e10k a year ago
>stopped using it because it started randomly turning off on me all the itme
>someone said to turn of usb power saving mode
>mfw its been on for over an hour and might be fixed
>i can enjoy music loud again

>>51561360
So are these the best pair of headphones you can buy for 100 bucks now?

>>51564161
>what is masking

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Should I buy it?

>>51564164
A-are you sure? I don't see them on any infographics. Why are there so many fakes? I literally can't find shit for over $25, I can really afford more, really.

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>tfw can't afford nice headphones
Ear buds would be more in my budget

What are some good ones?

>>51564600
Just get some Superlux headphones.

How poor are you if you can't even afford that?

>>51564558
It's a fucking steal for $100 or under, buy 100 and resell for twice the price after.

Is theheadphonelist.com a good review site?

>>51564531
Yes.

>>51564558
Yes if you don't already have a decent set of headphones. It's a good deal.

>>51564008
You could get HD 600 for that price but what is your source? What are you plugging them into?

>>51564197
Canadian dollars I assume? Takstar HI 2050. If Ameribucks, HD518.

>>51563477
DT250 80 Ohm

>>51562781
Monoprice 8323

>>51564636
I'm not seeing measurements so nope. Subjective impressions of sound quality should just be ignored.

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I wanna listen to some new music. Post some so I can have a relaxing evening listening to some good tunes

>>51561360
Just bought these for Black Friday sale. Hoping they live up to the hype :)

>>51561720
The only way to change the plastics in headphone drivers enough to change the sound signature is to heat them to a degree that would damage them. Period. Not only is it paradoxical, "Burn-in" is a placebo. It's your mind adjusting to the characteristics or sound signature of the set.

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>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WXN72NK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A2X0F4F8T5BV34

Is this good?

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Can anyone explain resampling to me?
All of the high quality modes sound muffled to me.

hey, I know this is a little off topic but is there a way to convert mp3s in bulk to flac and have them keep all the tags?

I tried to do it on LameXP and it erased all the tags.

thanks

>>51564777
That's what I'm using and I hate them so I'm looking for new ones.
Horrible static every time there's silence, I can't walk with them in my pocket because the shitty plug comes out with the slightest touch.

Then again I don't know anything about headphones, I'm here for someone to make my decision for me.

>>51564810
Use SoX VHQ linear phase

>>51564832
>mp3s in bulk to flac
>mp3s to flac

??

do you guys just ever try listening to other people's earpods

>>51564008
Check Sonic Sense Pro Audio. They record headphones and speakers, so people like YOU could listen before you buy. Some of their models are obsolete, but a lot of current models too.

>>51564161
Learn how to apply the log and exponential functions to field quantities.
10^(-21/20)=~0.089

Linear means direct 1:1 ratio scaling of input and outputs in the context of audio, free of non-linear spurious tones and the like. CSD is taken from the impulse response that captures the linear aspects of the headphone.
You are reading too much into the CSD. The time scale is 6ms, with a mediocre temporal accuracy (looks about 2^11 bins).
How does the resonance in the output have any bearing on the bit depth? The bit depth also gives the noise floor, and the instantaneous dynamic range of the ear is not nearly so great as 16 bits of undithered signal.

The tiny and extremely narrow (high-Q) FR bump creates a low level and persistent resonance. There is the consideration of frequency and forwards masking as well. It only sounds like you are complaining about the FR.

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>>51564858

LameXP has an option for it, I dont know the actual logistics but as I said, it deletes all the tags

[spoiler]please no bully I'm new[/spoiler]

>>51564848
are they really that bad? the reviews were pretty good.

Know any better ones?

>>51564908
why are you converting from lossy to lossless?

>>51564908
What in the actual fuck are you doing

>>51564085
>>51564085
>>51564085

anyone?

>>51564927
>>51564932

because people on the internet told me flac is better

>>51564943
This has to be bait

>Budget
Under $200
>Location
Sweden
>Source
Stationary computer
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Needs to be comfy as fuck since I'd like to use them for long hours of work in front of the computer
>Preferred music
A lot of symphony orchestra and a little bit of metal
>Past headphones
Meme headsets

>>51564909
I have no idea desu.
If there's one thing I know, it's to never listen to plebs.
Millions of people bought Adele's new album despite it being shit, so who knows? I just bought them because they looked cool and had a lot of stars but my choice was totally uninformed of any actual experience or knowledge of headphones and audio equipment.

>>51564952

well fuck it what is the best format for music?

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>>51564984
I am genuinely curious as to how you managed to find your way to /g/ if you're this retarded. Like what are you even doing on a tech board?

>>51564600
http://www.adorama.com/SASR850C.html?emailprice=t&hotlink=t&svfor=5m&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_source=rflaid62905&cvosrc=affiliate.62905

>>51565020

you dont want to answer the question cause you're an asshole or cause you don't know?

>>51565069
Because I'm an asshole and am getting entertainment out of your sheer stupidity.

>>51564984
The point of FLAC is that it is lossless compression, a more efficient way to compact the data compared to CDs(PCM) without disposing of it.
The point of lossy codecs is that not all of that data is needed to sound acceptable, or even any different if we are being more ambitious, and some data can be discarded with minimal harm.

>>51564854
Linear phase is icky.

>>51564571
Piston 2 is in pastebin, piston 3 be fine too.

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>>51565069

>>51565079

well you gotta start asking to stop being stupid

sorry if I triggered you

>>51565091
You could learn how to use Google.

>>51564984

Hey man, let me help you out.

The highest quality audio you'll get is from the original source, ie vinyl or cd.
If you want to actually listen to that audio while out and about, we need to convert it. Now, there are several different ways of going about this, but basically,

lossless > lossy > 128 omgwtf are you doing

So, let's look at mp3, which ranges from 320kbps down to 96 (or hell, 48 or lower if it's a cheap podcast with just talk).
You can go from high to low to save space, and then go back the other way, but the quality you gave up to save space is never coming back.

So yeah, you either want to go from CD to FLAC or download FLAC from bandcamp, torrent, what have you. Going MP3 to FLAC is just dumb.

>g, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

>>51565040
holy shit steal
amazon is like twice the price

>>51565082
>Linear phase is icky.
It's default and almost literally no different to intermediate and minimum phase.

>>51565111

Thank you.

>Budget
$200-$350
>Location
US
>Source
FiiO E17 Alpen
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Can be worn for several hours without becoming uncomfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral

>>51564943
It doesn't work like that and FLAC is really just meant for preserving the original copy in an efficient manner. It's a lossless file, useful for archiving and fine for listening too. You won't(necessarily) hear any difference between the lossless original file and a compressed lossy encode like mp3. I said necessarily because there are too many variables to explain here. Chances are though that your mp3 files will sound identical to the lossless original. That's the idea of it at least.

mp3 is lossy and you can't magically extract more information out of nothing to convert into a lossless file again. The information has already been discarded. If you convert mp3 into FLAC, you'll just get a file which is multiple times as big yet contain the exact same information. You gain nothing and only waste storage space.

By converting a lossy file into another lossy file, you'll lose even more information. Better to keep those lossy mp3s you got just as they are. They won't get any better no matter you do to them. If their quality is shit, you should just obtain better encodes or this time, the FLACs.

Think of the lossy/lossless here like saving a shitty quality jpg file to your computer and then converting it into png. You'll get a large file which looks exactly like that shitty quality jpg did. You did absolutely nothing to enhance the quality of that file and can't.

>>51564984
mp3 is fine or at least, can be fine. File format is very rarely a limitation in sound quality.

Saying "FLAC is good" or "mp3 is shit" or whatever is just a blanket statement. Both can be good, excellent even, as long as you understand their usage and what really matters in listening.

>>51565227
It's also called lossless because it doesn't lose quality with time, correct? I remember listening to a 10 year old mp3 file I had on my computer and it was completely wrecked.

>>51565355
http://niceme.me/

>>51565363
http://nicememe.website/

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Wait, these things aren't vaporware?

>>51565393
ur nice

Quick question:

I have an LP-120 turntable. I just ordered 2 JBL305's.
How many and what type of additional cables will I need to wire the table to the two speakers?
Not running them through an amp, table has a built in pre and both speakers have their own power source.

What DAC+AMP should I get if I want to use my ATH-M50x with my HTC One M8?

>>51565431
none

>>51565445
But when I listen to music I don't get the same response that I do when I use the headphones with my computer.
I'd really like to improve it.

>>51565091
Ignorance is not stupidity. The latter is much harder to fix.

>>51565133
Probably true if the resampler is good.

>>51565418
Something split cables to TRS input into each speaker.

>>51565468
There's a very good chance, after turning off signal processing on both devices, that the M8 is better than your computer.

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>>51565403
>vaporwave

>>51565418
Since that turntable already seems to have a pono pre-amp you just need a pair of RCA->TRS or RCA->XLR cables.

>>51565468
M8 has excellent codec and output. You'll likely just fuck things up if you start to mess around with portable DACs and/or amps. You sure you aren't running some "enhancing" features on either one of the devices? HTC used to put some Beats audio crap on their earlier products like M7 which was on by default.

And if you like that kind of signature, just use an equalizer.

Need bluetooth and wireless.

What are my options

>>51565517
Maybe it's just me nitpicking because I'm comparing side by side.
I won't go for a DAC+AMP or AMP at all then,
Thanks for the advice.

I hate EQing.

what is the best microphone with a $50 budget?

I don't know shit about headphones.

Would the Sony MDRV6's be an improvement over my Superlux HD681's?

>>51565477
>Probably true if the resampler is good.
See for yourself

http://src.infinitewave.ca/

I have a pair of Audio Technica AD700s, would it be worth it to buy a Sennheiser HD 598 or not?

>>51565477
>>51565517

Turntable guy, apologizing in advance for my stupidity.

The only cables I see are all made to merge the left and right channels into a single cable. I want to keep the channels separate all the way to the speakers (so a left speaker and a right speaker).

The table itself has a white and red female RCA. So I'm looking for just two RCA extenders that at the end change into a TRS (that's only carrying one of the channels)?
Again, first time doing this...

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00

Anyone else jump on these?

>>51565636
Yes you just need a mono cable for each of the channels with a suitable connector for the LSRs. Like this:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/133649-REG/Comprehensive_XLRP_PP_6ST_EXF_3_Pin_XLR_Male.html

>>51565657
I'll wait for later runs. Not keen on rattle again and considering how often the K7XX still go on sale it's not like you're missing anything by not jumping on them now.

>>51565696
Awesome, I think I'm on the right track now.

Any major difference between these two?

http://www.amazon.com/Your-Cable-Store-Foot-Unbalanced/dp/B002P9Q7I8/

http://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-104777-6-Feet-Premier-16AWG/dp/B001VLW398/

Do I need to worry about balanced vs unbalanced? (heard of them, just not sure if that's something that I'll ever notice, just getting into gear and all)

>>51565767
Not him but I was using those exact monoprice cables for my LSR305s before and they worked great.

I had RCA outs from my DAC though so if your turntable is only a 3.5mm lineout you'd want a Y-split as well from stsreo 3.5mm to two RCAs

>>51565767
Likely absolutely nothing in terms of audible differences but the Monoprice one does look better to the eye and the connectors seem nicer. Looks more durable, too.

>>51564571
dude pistons have been the go-to cheap iem for like a year on here, maybe even longer.

>>51565800
Disregard didn't read previous post saying the table has RCA outs, those monoprice cables would be more than fine. I personally went from XLR over TRS just for the more secure connection.

The monoprice cables are also solidly built and really thick, just as thick as my balanced XLR pig hog cables that boast about their thickness and durability.

>>51565838
went for*

>>51565767
>Do I need to worry about balanced vs unbalanced? (heard of them, just not sure if that's something that I'll ever notice, just getting into gear and all)
No as your turntable only has unbalanced outputs. LSR supports both unbalanced and balanced TRS and 3 pin XLR(which is "balanced" but works in unbalanced too). Balanced cable runs are useful for long distances in environments where they might pick up interference(EMI) like studios. Balanced interconnects need support from both the output and input device though.

>>51561360
What are these headphones? I saw them on amazon for £89 reduced from 200 on black friday.

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>>51565816
>>51565838

Turntable guy, posting from phone now.
Picking shows how I'm currently running, with the table having the rca outs, converted to a male 3.5, plugged into a UE boom.

Gonna pull the trigger on TWO of those monoprice cables and I should be good to go?

>>51565905
"Special" edition HD 598s in other words different colored HD 598s which are essentially just HD 558s in different color. Great deal for that price.

>>51565913
>Gonna pull the trigger on TWO of those monoprice cables and I should be good to go?
Yes.

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>>51565913
>Gonna pull the trigger on TWO of those monoprice cables and I should be good to go?
Yup.

>>51565939
>>51565948

Thank ya'll and anyone else who chimed in, really appreciate it!

I bought an iphone 5 to use as a media player and to use when riding dirt bikes so I don't fuck up my 6s plus if I crash, so far it's really nice, much smaller and better for riding motorcycles.
Small screen kinda sucks but the PPI is high and you can't have your cake and eat it too.

>>51565939
Those 598s don't seem to be getting amazing reviews from what I'm seeing. 7-8/10 at most places. Are they supposed to be good?

>>51565513
>vaporwear

I'm in the market for an upgrade to my Denon AH-D2000s, I love them to death but they're showing their age. Preferably something closed, with similar characteristics (neutral-ish with some kick in the low range). Any suggestions?

>>51565985
ultimate pocket player was that square 3rd gen nano man, literally perfect fit you forget it was even in your pocket

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400i or Fostex Massdrop TH-X00? I can't decide....

>>51565974

Shit. What about controlling the volume, without actually having to mess with both the speakers?
I was going to try getting a portable amp for my phone and headphones, but I guess that wouldn't let me use it as a passthrough to the 305's?

>>51566031
Besides that Fostex Massdrop thing or the srh1540, which might be more bassy than the Denon? Not sure.

>>51566044
Then you need something else with a pot in between to control volume.

>>51566035
>3rd gen nano man
yeah but that shit aint a phone

>>51566044
Consider a Schiit Sys if you don't want to make your own little passive pre, volume controls are actually expensive for god knows what reason and the Sys is on the cheaper side (plus it looks good)

>Budget
$50-75 but might be willing to go up to $100
>Location
USA
>Source
Modified HP desktop that still has a Foxconn board and my record player
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed by far, love me some over ear and can't stand on ear
>Comfort level
Something comfy, gonna be using these for hours on end daily
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Preferred music
A lot of gaming, specifically CS:GO and racing sims, and for music, ambient, drone, electronic, vaporwave, synthwave, IDM, etc
>Past headphones
ATH-M50's, broke after getting them pulled off my head.

>>51566143

>another 60 bucks, along with even more cables

Well, I'll throw it on the wishlist and just stick to one volume for awhile I guess...

>>51565825
I don't use this board. I'm sorry. I know what it's like to deal with newfags on your board, I'm just trying to absorb some info and your flagship memes (all boards have them).
I just came here for the watch and headphone generals a couple days ago because I'm looking for those things to give myself for Christmas.
But really though I'd rather spend 60 than 20 on something I'm going to use a lot and care about the quality. Unless it's really /g/'s favorite poorfag special.

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What do you guys think about Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro? What Ohm should I get and what amplifier if it's needed?

>>51566382
80 and no amp

>>51565627
pls respond

>>51566268
>pistons
It is the latest darling of /g/'s poorfag IEMs. You can definitely do better than that for a bit more.
There is a problem with trying to pick nice IEMs if you don't know their taste. Some people want mega bass, other don't. Piston 2 delivers huge amounts of bass, as is common for cheap IEMs. Piston 3 a bit less, but still on the bassy side. ATH-IM50 is a nicely built IEM for some more money, but the larger design may be off putting.

>>51566429
Why do you want the Sennheiser?

AKG K240 or Sennheiser 598?
240's are only $58 and the 598's are $95

>>51566435
My AD700s are starting to show some signs of wear now since I've had them for quite a while, and I was thinking about getting a second pair of headphones anyway for my studio.

So i got my k7xx coming in for christmas what sort of Dac/amp combo should i get or should i buy a soundcard? My budget for this would be around 150-200€

SE215 on sale on Amazon now, guize.

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>>51566533
forgot pic

Speakerfags, is there any point of me toeing in the LSR305 if their waveguide is supposed to be that spectuacular and the listening window so large?

>>51566470
It definitely has more midbass, but it has been a very long time since I've worn the AD700. Comfort is all right.

>>51566546
>is there any point of me toeing in the LSR305 if their waveguide is supposed to be that spectuacular and the listening window so large
It's not that wide, and it starts to beam in the very high frequencies. Aim it it at your head properly.

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/r/ing purchase advice

>Budget
$250, could push $300 if it's worth.
>Location
USA
>Source
Desktop computer
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Flexible
>Preferred tonal balance
V-Shaped or Neutral
>Past headphones
ATH-M50x for the past two years
>Extra note
I need the best soundstage possible. The above could be almost entirely ignored for this trait (excluding price).
These will be used for an academic project involving the blind. Being able to accurately recreate the direction and "distance" to a sound source is crucial for us. After that they'll become my personal headphones though.

>Budget - Up to $250
>Location - California
>Source - Desktop computer, I believe my mobo has a built in realtek card which I'm using
>Preferred type of headphone - Full sized
>Open or closed - Closed
>Comfort level - The usual story, I'm on the computer all day so I need a reasonably comfortable set of headphones.
>Preferred tonal balance - Neutral
>Past headphones - I used sennheiser HD555s for the past 4 years. They were more than comfortable enough for me, if that means anything. I loved them, no complaints except for the fact that they finally broke.

If I just want to amplify the signal coming from my phone and turntable (built in pre-amp), are any of these a worse choice than the other?

Fiio A3 ($60, no DAC)
Fiio E07K ($73)
Fiio E10K ($76)

I have a laptop and galaxy5s I'll be regularly playing music through, not sure if I'll mess with the DAC but I guess it's nice to have the option later on...

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>>51566435
Well I definitely want it to be more versatile and balanced.
I listen to a lot of different music so I don't want to compromise one enjoyability for another.
I guess you call that neutral, but "v-shaped" would be alright too.
Those ATH-IM50s look about right but it does look kinda big, don't like the wrap around thing.
Anything else you'd rec?

>>51566644
AKG k550/551

>>51564558
I just impulsed bought them then came here to see if others did too.

theres literally no difference between the black and the white one right?

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-598-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B0042A8CW2

will /hpg/ laugh at me if i order the massdrop thxx headphone?

>>51566435
>huge amounts of bass
nigga what.
There is no huge bass from piston 2s

>>51566714
Besides the color? No.

>>51566665
I would say the e07k.

>>51566644
>Being able to accurately recreate the direction and "distance" to a sound source is crucial for us
That is more dependent on HRTF and difference cues. Wouldn't you have access to proper dual channel convolvers for this, ideally with head tracking?

>>51566106
Holy shit, thank you so much for turning me onto this. And it went on sale today? I have a superpower, and its name is serendipity.

>Budget
$50 - $100, but can go a bit over $100 if needed
>Location
USA
>Source
Samsung Galaxy S5 and Lenovo laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed preferred.
>Comfort level
Mid-range comfy.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral, not as bass heavy
>Preferred music
J-Rock and hardcore
>Past headphones
Skullcandy earbuds. I'm looking for something nice for my first actual pair of headphones.

the impedance for the hd598's isn't high enough to warrant an amp purchase alone, right?

Help me out, boys. I'm stuck using a pair of shitty iPhone earbuds until I decide on something new. My QC15s died after a good 4-5 years of daily use.

>Budget
$100-300

>Location
Canada

>Source
Nexus 6

>Preferred type of headphone
I prefer full-sized, but I want something to wear while I travel, so I'm open to IEMs.

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
I want something that I can wear all day.

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral, but I don't have much of a preference.

>Past headphones
Bose Quietcomfort 15

>>51562197
Philips sounds amazing, but has poor build quality.

HD 598s are a better choice I'd have to say

>>51566929
Beyerdynamic Custom Pro

>>51563686
Yeah noticed that after I ordered, sent him a question to see if its new unopened headphones are used sweaty crap

>>51566946
>All that customization

I've never seen a pair of headphones like these. That's really interesting. How's the build quality?

>>51566917
Impedance has little to do with warranting an amp.

>Budget
$200-$300

>Location
USA

>Source
Desktop(Alc892) and Scarlet 6i6

>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized

>Open or closed
Closed preferred

>Comfort level
at least something in the middle

>Preferred tonal balance
neutral

>Past headphones
ATH-A700's
used them everyday for several years, I love them

>>51566917
That's not quite how electrical impedance works, but you don't need to have an amplifier.

>>51566735
Denons were nice, this looks like it might be good too.

>>51566214
What did you think of the m50?

>>51566992
They are strong and comfy af.

$200
Burger
straight into the mobo son
Full
Closed in this case
Comfortable. Senn 555s used to give me a headache regularly
Dunno
Video game
555s for a few years, AT ATH-700s I still use and have had for probably 3 or 4 years. Some older pieces of shit I forget about

The 700s are super comfy but mess up my hair with extended use and I'd like something closed for watching movies and things. I'll still use the 700s for gaming most likely though. I know the Senn 598s are on a huge sale on amazon, but what else is worth looking at? I'd prefer to upgrade if I can but I'm not able to make a huge price jump

>>51567105
I don't suppose you know of any sales or discount codes for them anywhere, do you?

>>51566761
>That is more dependent on HRTF and difference cues.
At the end of the day, we're checking the "accuracy" of binaural sounds with blind people.

>ideally with head tracking?
We're not that far yet. At the moment we're just putting people in headlock contraption so they don't move their face.

Though so far all we've done is stick shitty earbuds on our professor's blind niece and made her cry.

>>51567127
Yeah, bought them at the local store for ~110 euro

How are the HD598 compared to the DT880? Aside from the large price difference.

>>51567236
Fuck. I'll keep an eye out for them though--they look pretty good. Thanks for the recommendation.

>>51563754
how2fix?

>>51567072
The M50's were great and I would totally get the M50x, but it's a little too much right now even with the discount

I've been wondering for a while, who is actually dumb enough to spend hundreds-thousands on premium hdmi, usb, and ethernet cables? Somebody has to be buying them because otherwise they wouldn't exist.

>>51567351
People who actually had money.

>>51567351
people with same mindset as audiophiles

>>51567222
Yeah, well I don't think closed is such a great idea.

I don't know how the blind take to hearing distance, but normally, it is more dependent on the lower frequencies, something that closed headphones are often more unstable with. If you're sticking mics into their ears to capture personalized directions, closed headphone might present other problems.

How much testing will be done on the median plane?

>>51567318
It just looks like an FR peak, so use an EQ.

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Did I fuck up?

>>51567281
Im from Russia and since the end of 2014 prices are fucked up so 110 euro was a steal, they usually go here for around 200, same as 770 Pro

>>51567509

you did good, that's a fantastic deal

>>51567342
Consider the NVX XPT100.

>>51566667
Fiio EX1? The isolation is absolute piss, but it something closer to a balanced sound.

>>51567576
Jesus man, is there really nothing of quality I can get for 65 dollars?
All of you guys know a lot more about tech than me so it'd be nice to get your blessing on a product, but you aren't giving me much of a placebo affect here.

>>51567615
Vsonic?

>>51567615
Hifiman Re-400, various vsonic IEMs.

The goal is not to get placebo, because that wears off faster than having something nice.

Thoughts on the symphonized mtrx iem buds that amazon sold for 14 bucks a couple days ago? "List" price was over 50 bucks but I'm not too disappointed if they're not that good because I needed some buds besides the apple ones anyway

>put sony V6 in my cart this morning and didn't check out
>come back just now to check out
>it's out of stock
where can I buy some good strong rope to make a noose with?

>>51567116
maybe a DT-770 pro 80 or pro 250 if you like treble

>>51567648
>>51567677
On second thought the FiiOs look nice, any Vsonic in particular?

>>51567116
http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-A900X-Closed-Back-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B006V386UG

>>51567728
and bass

>>51567754
Vsd3s or Vsd5s. Depends on your budget.

>>51567728
>mobo

oh fug, E10k too I guess but that's over budget...CMOYBB pro 250 definitely needs amp 80 will need one for loud listening levels

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Well over a year of listening on these headphones, you got questions? I got answers.

>>51567706
the same thing happened to me to except it was in my cart for 2 hours.

>>51567728
How would the 80s compared to 598s? I'm not too huge on bass and I've been going years without it just fine on these 700s anyway.

>>51567770
I had considered the logical upgrade, and the pads are comfy as fuck but they really mess with my hair in a way that brushes can't fix alone. Are the 900s any better about that than the 700s?

>>51567807
How did you tolerate it?

>>51567835
real questions bro

>>51567814
It's still gonna mess your hair, but at least it's comfy

>>51567807
>you got questions?
Not really, you made a bad purchase decision.

>>51567882
I mean, only if you mean being headphones is overall a bad purchase decision because speakers are better maybe I'd agree with you, but you're probably just le meme-ing

>>51567807
How would you compare them to other headphones you have?

>>51567835
>>51567882
So much jelly.

Chances are HD598 is better than your headphones? Why? Because it's one of the most neutral headphones that money can buy.

Enjoy your shit headphones and buyer's remorse, faggot.

>>51567898
Nah they just sound bad. You are right about speakers being superior to headphones though.

Alright, so I am looking for some recs and help. I have recently gotten back into playing/learning music and want to get some equipment for recording. For the time being, I am thinking I might forgo monitors, at the moment, because of my budget, and I want to get some headphones I can use for studio work as well as general listening. They don't have to be amazing, just solid sound quality and comfortable for long periods of time.

>Budget
As long as they aren't more than $120 and are a good value. Preferably around $90

>Type of music
Mostly guitar based music, but a lot of stuff with upper harmonics and not as mid-heavy as typical guitar sounds. Also keyboard/vocals.

>Priorities
Comfortable, preferably over ear with minimal sound escaping because I do a lot of listening in bed while my girlfriend is sleeping, wireless would also be nice but not a big point.

>>51567922
Nah, you're just a salty shitposter.
>>51567938
ATH-M40X and MDR-V6 for closed. The latter especially, it's also on sale for $50 at the moment.

If open, go with HD598 SE which is on sale.

>>51567906
I had a pair of V-MODA LP2 a couple years ago, which I thought were alright but I also didn't really have a decent ear at that point, and every once in a while I'll put them back on and they sound like washed out trash with nothing but low end compared to the 598s, I also have some VSONIC VSD3S's, and those definitely are not comparable either. The HD598 are neutral as hell, and a bit lacking in the bass department, but they are definitely the nicest headphones I've ever owned, I also have a pair of ATH-M50s that I use when recording music, but I don't find those as comfortable as the HD598s or as nice sounding.

>>51567922
>neutral ass headphones
>sound bad
nah.

>>51567915
Why is it that you pure objectivists who regurgitate le DF equalized headphone meme always have the least knowledge about headphones, least experience headphones and the cheapest, most welfare headphones on the market?

Not even NwAvGuy was this autistic about headphones being neutral, he had DT770s and HD650s.

I am pretty compulsive and bought OP's pic related from Amazon this morning as I needed new over ears. Will I be bottle necked with lack of sound card in computer? Someone mentioned some sort of USB device I could get to plug them into? Looking for the best way to get the experience they were designed for

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>>51567915
>ur so jelly of my le anime headphones

>>51567999
They don't need an amp/dac whatsoever.

>>51568017
Thanks for the quick reply I was skeptical but this confirms it

>>51567991
But I don't own a HD598, I was just saying it's better than whatever trash you have.

Also, you seem to think that you know a lot about headphones, but you really don't.

>>51567814
way more bass especially sub bass, yeah maybe it's not the best fit for you unless you had pro 250 and that needs an amp for sure. Not a whole lots of options for closed headphones in that category m50x Beyers, Sony MDRv6 but it's very cheap comparably, HD280 pro (clamp monsters not good for extended listening imo)

oh fug I just remembered Fostex T50RPmk3 people have said it doesn't need an amp and you can mod it if you don't like the sound T40RP is fully closed and 50 is semi open btw, people generally don't like the signature of the 40RP from what i've read but subjective impressions are only worth so much, I personally use DT-770 250ohm, HD280, and m50

>>51567991
>thinking there are objective opinions in audio
lel look at this head-fi kekold

>>51568039
How about you go back to Reddit there, Mr. Welfare. You're probably admiring his HD598 purchase because even those you cannot afford and your personal attacks are really pathetic.

>>51567116
Consider Beyerdynamic DT250 80 ohm, one of the very few Beyers that don't have exaggerated treble. The bass output is flat as well.

>>51568068
>le reddit meme

Nice argument, faggot.

Also I own better headphones than the HD598, but the HD598 being such a champ at frequency response measurement there's only a handful of headphones on the market that best it.

Once again, I remind you:

HD598 > your headphones.

>>51568058
>muh HD600 are objectively the best headphones because they are the closest to le meme-field curve

desu you all probably listen to shit music so like why even bother with good headphones?

>>51568095
Timestamp with your HD600, big boi Sennshill.

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cop or not?

Just ordered the 598s and broke my trend of buying and replacing cheap headsets each year. Here's hoping I actually like them.
Also a bit disappointed that the brown ones aren't on sale too, personally I think they look a lot nicer.

>>51568108
You should know audiophiles have the worst taste in the world

>Diana Krall

>>51568112
I don't own a HD600.

But why don't you post a picture and timestamp of your headphones, shitposter?

>>51568133
You first big boi, lets see your headphones that are superior to the HD598.

Don't tell me you're backing out? Also you already said my headphones were worse than the HD598 so why should I bother, shillposter?

>>51561360
Got some DT 770 pro 80 Ohm strictly for practicing bass thanks to /hpg/'s recommendation, for that money they're pretty damn nice I have to say. Not perfect obviously but definitely usable even with a 5-string.

>>51568144
>>51568133
Stop being literal niggers and fighting over headphones. You're wasting your bandwidth

Why would you ever want headphones that aren't flat, when you can always change the eq in software?

>>51568157
Consider yourself lucky you didn't ask during a Sennheiser shilling thread where you would have been talked into buying some nobass shit where you wouldn't hear it at all.

>>51568144
Why should I even bother to leave my chair just to do this for some anonymous shitposter?

>>51568165
Because there is no flat headphone in existence and comfort/build quality are big factors because SQ can be fixed with EQ.

>>51568173
Backing the fuck down I see. Don't throw punches when you can't take them.

>>51568165
People here just wanna justify their colored shit like Beyers so they make up memes like veil to describe flat headphones.

>>51567770
Is this price a black friday price or can I expect to get this in about a week or so? Need to wait til my next paycheck

>>51568168
I like my nobass crap for listening to music (ATH-AD 900x) but the Beyer have pretty good bass response all the way down to 30Hz, which is what I needed for proper practicing. They're far from flat though, I'm not sure why they're considered studio headphones.

>>51568194
Peoples hearing adjusts to the sound after a while and even if there is coloration they can pick out off-sounds.

>>51568185
Name a single perfectly flat headphone from 20hz to 10khz

>>51568183
But you asked for the pic and timestamp first, shitposter. I see no reason for doing it.

>>51568218
Because you said you had headphones better than the HD598. I'd like to see them. Stop backing out you shitposter.

>>51568210
>my beyers are colored as fuck b-but other headphones are colored too

>>51568165
flat headphones sound boring and shit honestly mostly because of the bass roll off, that's why only professionals use them, believe it or not sound can be enhanced

>>51568241
They're an industry standard in studios, plus there is a sound engineering(?) student who frequents these threads and mixes with DT880s and MDR-V6s. You should stop shitposting now..

>>51568230
Why? If anything you should post a picture of your headphones as you implied they are welfare headphones before I responded.

I got my HD800's yesterday and I'm still practically jizzing all over the place, this is fucking amazing I wish I could share what I hear with everyone else here.

>>51568257
>n-no y-you do it!!
If you're not going to put up then shut up.

>>51567479
>well I don't think closed is such a great idea.
Could you give me your suggestion as well? I wasn't expecting someone knowledgeable to start asking random questions about our project.

>I don't know how the blind take to hearing distance, but normally, it is more dependent on the lower frequencies
We're using blind people because we've noticed some of them are scary accurate at gauging the distance in the areas normal people can't. I'm not aware of how lower frequencies and hearing work. I'll look into this though.

>If you're sticking mics into their ears to capture personalized directions
At the moment we don't have a reason to.

>How much testing will be done on the median plane?
We haven't planned so far as to know exactly, though I'm sure it'll be a bulk of it.
Sounds not on a median plane were easy enough for anyone (blind or not blind) to place fairly accurately.

Disclaimer: None of us have any accreditation to be called sound engineers. Us working on this are just a grab bag of students from different engineering disciplines.

>>51568247
>being this brainwashed by advertising

>>51568247
>deviation from accuracy
>enhanced

>>51568210
Etymotic ER-4B comes close if you use the ITU tolerance.

>>51568252
No, MDR-7506 is the industry standard for headphone monitoring.

>>51568258
I'm glad you can't share it with me.

>>51568294
>being this convinced you know what you're talking about

When someone says flat, does that usually mean perceived flatness or graph flatness? If it means perceived, then it wouldn't make sense to say a flat headphone doesn't have enough bass, would it?

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>>51568311
Actual, measurable frequency response.

>>51568303
>Etymotic ER-4B
What is reading comprehension?
>No, MDR-7506 is the industry standard for headphone monitoring.
You haven't been to many studios if you think 7506 are the only headphone used for monitoring.

>>51568311
Perceived is impossible to attain as it differs with volume.

>>51568323
I specifically said comes close, not like I answered with 'Etymotic ER-4B'.

MDR-7506 is still the most popular and I've been to a lot of studios. Other popular models are K240, DT770, M50, SRH-440, HD280 Pro and so on.

>>51568320
No, I've heard they're nice but more plastic-y than the 50x's, so be more careful

>>51568366
>plastic-y
>>>/head-fi/

>>51568359
>I specifically said comes close, not like I answered with 'Etymotic ER-4B'.
I was referring to the fact that you named an in-ear when the question was regarding headphones.

I really hope you don't try to start something about semantics now.

>>51568320
No, they're much, much better than the M50x.

>>51568366
Should be ok, im not going to throw it around like an ape

>>51568311
they don't have enough bass to be considered fully flat, that's why studio monitors are used for the mastering process

>>51568389

NEW THREAD

>>51568321
>>51568359

That's what I thought. The problem I'm having with talking about headphones like this is that it's made out to be like there's a certain measured frequency response that's ideal, when it's all pretty subjective, both in perceived frequency response and preference of sound signature, not to mention the frequency response is coded into the recording itself. Also the differences between individual manufactured products and impedance curve interactions. Also loudness curves.

But what about neutrality? Do people usually say that to mean perceived neutrality or does it mean the same thing as "flat" or something else?

>>51568371
Pretty sure he meant the build.

>>51568133
If we go by your flat meme being a benchmark for headphones being good, the only headphone better than the HD598 is the HD600 and since you don't have the HD600 I'm really curious as to what it is.

>>51566438
K240s

>>51568398
Neutrality as in what's being sent to the eardrum. Regardless of whether you like it or not that's high fidelity.

>>51568400
I won't tell you what my headphone is. It's more neutral than the HD600 too, and it's in production.

>>51568113
Yup

>>51568489
>I won't tell you what my headphone is. It's more neutral than the HD600 too, and it's in production.
Literally shitposting. Fuck off forever.

>>51568501
Also it's made by an American company.

>>51568515
Until you can prove otherwise, you're just a shitposter with absolutely no headphone knowledge whatsoever.

>>51568534
I actually know more than 99.9% of the posters in these threads.

I just love to ruse butthurt retards like you who think that they do.

I'll give you two hints.

It isn't Etymotic.

It has a major flaw for some users.

And I actually don't like the HD600. So fuck off.