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What's with the obsession with large amounts of RAM? I've

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What's with the obsession with large amounts of RAM?

I've never had a desktop or laptop with more than 8GB of RAM and I've never felt like I've needed more. Is having more than 8GB of RAM necessary?

I understand video/photo editors benefit from more RAM but for the average person, is it worth it?
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>>51559130
Its the only thing the average normie can quantify without getting confused. Ask him what GPU it has or what speed the RAM runs at and he won't have a clue.
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because for these people more=better
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>>51559166

exactly

big number = gooder
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>>51559166

Well, RAM speed is just a wonky thing to ask. What with effective and actual speed and stuff.
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>>51559130
First it was processor speed, then hard drive space and now RAM.

Whats next? I can't see normies getting excited over SSD benchmark tests, maybe number of CPU cores will start to trend in a couple of years.
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>>51559130
>That one person who thinks storage space is RAM
There's always one, isn't there?

Also, some games gobble memory like no tomorrow. ARK is one of them, I played it with all graphics settings turned down at 720p and it was using pretty much all 6.9 gigs that were left over after my IGP took its chunk.
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>>51559233
>"Well it says SSD on the sticker so my memory must be fast!"
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>>51559130
If you do anything remotely real with your computer beside facebook all day, you'll run close or even over 8GB, not even taking into account specialized applications like running VMs, rendering, or games.
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>>51559130
It's the new thing people like to show off

First it was the CPU, then it was the cores, now..it's the RAM.
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>>51559254
Unoptimized shit games are hell on RAM.
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I work with hypervisors, so a big amount of RAM is essential for a pleasant experience.
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>>51559130
It depends what you're doing on your computer.
For example lots of VMs running requires more RAM, or like I do physical simulations that take a ton of RAM, they're slow as fuck if they dip into swap. Compiling shit can take tons of RAM too... All sorts of shit really.

If all you do is play games though then it probably doesn't matter.
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>>51559254

Yeah Ark even has 2 modes to launch in based on if you're poor or not.
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>"My new phone has 20 megapixels so there is no way your 12 megapixel brick camera (SLR) can beat it in image quality."
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>mfw I'm sitting here with a measly 890 megabytes of ram
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>>51559254

Isn't there some fancy way to use RAM as a "hard disk"?
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>>51559446
Post speccy screenshot.
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>>51559130
>Uhm I spent 300 and got 200 GB

>confusing RAM with storage space
god I'd fucking beat that bitch with her laptop
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I remember when /g/ used to say you need at least 8GB of RAM back when almost all games were 32-bit.
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>>51559426
triggered
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Can we agree Daft Punk was behind this
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>>51559453
here
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If you get close to the maximum RAM, your OS will start using virtual memory and will fucking slow down to a crawl. It happens to me almost every day with 4GB and sometimes with 6GB. If you do some semblance of multitasking on a computer, you'll inevitably use a lot of RAM. I never had any more trouble of this kind after I upgrade to 16GB. So yes, the amount of RAM is important if you multitask on a computer and use demanding software like VMs.
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>>51559130
I regularly use 8+GB at work and at home I've gotten out of memory crashes in certain games at 4K with just 8GB and have seen serious swapping going on and killing performance, in GTA V for instance. Upgrading to 16GB solved those issues.
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>>51559464

That's a pretty normal thing to say for people who have no clue about PCs.
RAM is stated in GB, storage space is stated in GB, must be the same thing. How can I save my Facebook images on my graphics card?
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>>51559542
it says one gigabyte, but the IGPU actually uses up 128 megabytes of it.
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>>51559577
VRAM != RAM
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>>51559542
How come you blacked everything out? There's nothing unique and traceable in those model numbers.
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>>51559486
>what is multitasking
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>>51559448
You can use this application called Dimmdrive to store games on your RAM, if that's what you're talking about
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>>51559606

Are you being a silly nilly right now?
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>>51559606
>integrated graphics
>shared memory
nice meme
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>>51559606
IGPU's actually borrow system memory, that's what makes it so slow in most cases having to channel everything over the bus.
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>>51559623
32bit applications can only use 3.5GB of RAM total. That includes CPU cache, VRAM, etc.
4-6GB back in 2010 and 2011 was plenty even if you were running other shit with games.
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>>51559606
Dude, the system properties and literally everything else say 896 megabytes of RAM.

>>51559619
I've posted it before elsewhere and I'm afraid of /g/ tracking me down.

sorry brah.
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>>51559606
>implying iGPU have their own memory pool
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>>51559631
Slap that silly willy.
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There was a time it was a massive chokepoint for a lot of PC's and somewhat tech illiterate users going into windows 7. Not only was it relatively cheap it was also super easy to install/replace. It breathed new life into PC's super easy.

When building a PC it's generally a pretty cheap component. If you only need 8gb but have the budget for 16-32gb it has great appeal from nothing other than it being rewarding.
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>>51559542
super secret NASA supercomputer needs to have certain parameters blacked out
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>>51559669
>>51559542
You forgot to black out the memory timings, I'm running a tracert as we speak.
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I use 4GB and the only thing it hasn't been sufficient for is large minecraft mod packs.

Firefox also uses up to 2GB sometimes, but that's because Firefox is a shitty browser that is increasingly becoming useless (especially because it's abandoning XUL extensions).

TL;DR other than modded Minecraft and multi-tasking with a resource-hungry Firefox, 4GB is sufficient for anything I've needed to do.
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>Is having more than 8GB of RAM necessary?
My 100+ open tabs with a running game say yes.
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>>51559697
with his storage device name you can hack his files and reroute his encryptionz
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>>51559130
It's simple really. Do you run out of RAM? If yes -you- need more.

I will never understand the debates people have about it on /g/. I guess there's a sense of pride and elitism about making do with less. Or perhaps normies get scammed into buying 32GB for a Facebook machine.
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There's a new breed of computer user.

These people don't know what life was like when we had very limited supply of system ram. I would reckon that most of us here are disciplined out of habits from the old days to close out of programs when you go to play a video game that demands more than 2GB of ram. Also, the very idea of playing two games at once that use up a lot of ram must sound absolutely disgusting to you.

This new breed of computer user goes willy-nilly with his ram usage. He can actually fill up 16+GB of ram because he doesn't have ram sparing discipline. An internet browser with 30 tabs, Skype, two really demanding PC games that he alt+tabs back and forth with, as well as a slew other system bundled software running in the background that he can't be bothered to uninstall. These people exist and really only now am I starting to train myself to be more like that since ram really is so plentiful these days. It isn't very expensive to get a 32GB ram setup these days. Just go nuts. You don't need to spare your ram anymore like in the old days.
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>>51559714
>Firefox also uses up to 2GB sometimes

haha why bother improving our code when people keep buying ram and sheet
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I went from a 3GB RAM, Core 2 Duo @1.6GHz and integrated graphics card laptop to a 16GB RAM, Core i7 @2.8GHz, discrete graphics card and SSD laptop. I don't think I'll ever feel this kind of jump ever again in my life.
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>>51559733
I still need to kill the browser once in a while.
Although FF might take like 1,5GB and I have plenty still available, the damn thing gets too slow.

Then again, I installed this box in 2011 - maybe it's a time to clean install.
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I always wanted to build a desktop with 32GB of RAM and write a script that loads my entire root partition onto a RAM disk and then boots from it. I'd have a daemon that saves the changes in directories like /etc/ and /usr/ every n minutes and after every package manager update.
Has anyone else done anything like this?
It'd probably just be easier to RAID0 some fast SSDs.
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>>51559739
Come at me bro.
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>>51559130
anything over 16gb is a meme

8 is fine however
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>>51559786
>only now am I starting to train myself to be more like

Don't. I know the type of person you just described and they constantly complain to me how their games/computer perform slow or crashes all the time. Probably because one of their 90 background processes is causing shitty problems. But they just won't listen to me about setting things up properly and instead go off to buy a new $2k computer every 2 years because their old one "is slow".
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>>51559253
Normies use Apple®™© products, so I can see the getting excited about the new thunderbolt connector with PCI-e compatibles which will yield no benefit
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>>51559277
>>implying SSDs aren't fast

Kek
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>>51559130
i cant wait to have 16 gb of ram on my android phone, i bet touchwizz will run buttery smooth.
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>>51559837
encryptions rerouted
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>>51559786

Remember swap files?
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>>51559448
I know on linux systems you can mount sections of ram as a sort of super fast read/write tertiary memory, I've heard it said this can be useful but, I've never tried it or seen it done.

>>51559130
Apparently manipulating and rendering large photos and film works better with large amounts of ram
>"640K ought to be enough for anybody" Somebody famous said that I think.
I don't know much about it, but if ever VR off the ground, to achieve any kind of reasonable resolution or responsiveness computers are going to need more ram and the programs that run on them are going to have to be far better at working with multiple cores,
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>who would EVER need more than 32mb RAM

this is you, OP
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i installed tf2 and cs:go on my ramdisk so it loads fast enough that i'm always the first on a server. that way i get to chose the team first. i always play blu or ct and i laugh at fags that get forced to play on the worse side.
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>>51559906
if swap files are ever touched, I double the ram
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>>51559936
There's probably some old timer still using one of those boxes because of that "never obsolete" label.
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>Have more than enough RAM
>Nothing bad.

>Have little less than you need
>Enitre PC goes to shit.

So 16GB or 32GB
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>>51559786
Oh god, I feel you man.

Right now, I have to close down everything in order to watch my movies and anime without my player lagging.

I've disabled any useless WINDOWS background services, I've disabled startup programs, I've disabled all services in msconfig I don't use.

fuck it, /g/...

>>51559936
Because you HAVE TO have your browser and movie player while playing a game, right?

I know being a developer is hard, but god damn, now that the majority buys a new computer every year, they've said "fuck optimization, they can run my horrible code just fine"
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>>51559970
>tf2 and cs:go

nigga those things load fast even on my macbook pro
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top - 14:58:32 up 1 day, 15 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.84, 1.89, 1.50
Tasks: 181 total, 1 running, 180 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 9.5 us, 1.3 sy, 0.0 ni, 89.0 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.2 si, 0.0 st
KiB Mem: 1016624 total, 901868 used, 114756 free, 57228 buffers
KiB Swap: 3985404 total, 616648 used, 3368756 free. 188000 cached Mem
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>>51559870
>ssd's speed up your ram
Dude what
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>>51559989
What is that program
what does it tell to me
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>>51559130
Just upgraded to 16GB last night from 8. some poorly optimized games I'm playing atm run past 10gb. I run a few virtual machines every now and then too.
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>>51560010
Technically true, if your swap disk is on a SSD stuff that's not being used will be moved between RAM and SSD faster than RAM and HDD.
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Ram ain't that expensive, so yeah basically more is better.
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>>51559858
Sounds like my grandad, every few months I get word that he wants me to fix his laptop because of how slow it is. He just doesn't listen and makes the same mistakes again and again.
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>>51559988
what are you gonna use your computer for?
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its for chome, ddr4
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>>51559989
That's Defraggler, it defrags your harddrive.

It's basically making file access faster.

but you probably have an SSD, don't you? Defragging SSDs isn't something you should do.
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>>51560050
still slows it down compared to more ram
if anything it speeds up your swap, not your ram
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>>51559130
I can't believe that girl.
I fucking hate having to explain the difference between ram and storage....
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>>51560086
gl running chrome on that m8
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>>51559606
Ever wondered why Windows 7 onwards showed X.XX ram usable?

Now you know.
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>>51560106
>"So which is better anon? Will taking one of them out make my facebook faster?"
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>>51560100
>Defragging SSDs isn't something you should do.

yeah it's something you should don't
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>>51560120

Mate. Come on.
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>>51559786
I have 211 tabs in Firefox. It's using 609.5MB currently. You know it doesn't actually load tabs you don't touch, right?
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>>51560101
Yeah basically. Even then SSD swap is slow as fuck compared to buying another 8gb of ram/doubling your current ram.
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>>51559837
come at me too
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>>51560211
I'm coming for you.
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>>51559166
Or ask them what the difference between a GPU and a Graphics Card is.
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>>51559542
Get the fuck out of your basement.
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>>51560211
How much does that pull from the wall?
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>>51559448
On most modern Linux distributions /tmp and at least /dev/shm is setup as tmpfs and you can use it right away.
It's quite usefull to store all temporary things on it.
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I'd like to know factually, how better modern OSs have gotten at managing RAM.

I assume windows optimizes paging based on how much RAM there is available, I can't seem to overflow my 4GBs on the SP3, but I'm almost always above that on my desktop which has 16GBs.
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>>51560259
it definitely pulls some juice. I upgraded from a 6420 on a p5nesli with 2 gtx 260 core 216s. Went from a thermaltake 700w to an overkill 1500w corsair psu. I really can't be bothered to accurately measure my power draw, but the electric bill has certainly gone up. Pumping the AC this last summer had me over $300 a month. Since its cooled down the bill has dropped, but it's never under $100 like it used to be.
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>>51559130
It depends. One of my computers runs Win 10 and keeps pushing the limits of its 8GB, the other has only 4GB and works fine (also Win 10). If you get your computer all set up and you keep running out or close to it, get more RAM.
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>>51560211
Literally fire of london tier.
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>>51559130
>american education6615.png

Added to my collection.
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>>51560211
>your bg
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>>51559130

>what is the obsession with big numbers
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>>51560367
That's amazing, consider me jelly.
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>>51559661
>Nigga doesn't know about extending memory.
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>>51560254
Hehe
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did someone say Ram

I love ram I cant get enough of it
all my harddrives go to ram, I make my ssd into ultra fast raid 0 arrys and use them as RAM
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>>51559809
>That pic

Oh god why? I'm sad that I believe someone has done that before.
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>>51560596
it's completely fine if you remove the battery and let it dry off completely before putting it back in and plugging shit back, check it out.
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>>51560596
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>>51560450
last time i upgraded was 2006 ish. Next step is some good monitors. I'm thinking 1440p. Maybe a couple of 27's then my tv mounted to the wall above them. I don't have cable or a console. This PC is my home entertainment. I don't make crazy money. Here is a pic of my ghetto setup. I'm not a fan of the wood paneling, but it was a house I could afford in a great location.
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>>51560853
haha oh dear lord I remember that keyboard from mid 00s when I was playing America's Army and the fucking monitor would never work
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It's easier to write fast, cache optimized programs if you don't need to worry about memory usage
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>>51560889
I keep shit until it doesn't work anymore lol. It serves my needs. Thinking about buying a smaller form factor mechanical, but the old logitech g15 still works perfect.
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>>51560892
how do I cache my video game to my RAM memory?
Can it ruin the RAM=
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>>51560925
I'm talking about CPU cache
One of the big bottlenecks right now is the time it takes to do transfers between CPU cache and RAM (hundreds of cycles per cache miss)
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>>51559130
>she
i got 32GB and soon will ramdisk 4 gb
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Boy I sure love my gamebroy games shitting themselves because of swapping. And those endless compile times are worth it being right in not needing more than 8gb of R A M. Yes op you are right, it is absolutely fucking useless!
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>>51561194
>Playing Bethesda crap
lol cvck
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>>51561233
name me a better sex simulator.
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Going from 8gb to 16gb is only 50$ if you buy it on sale.

Just guarantees you won't have problems about lacking RAM in the future, because even if 8gb is almost always enough, sometimes you can get to 9gb of usage or even more depending on how many and what programs you use.
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Up until 2 years ago I had ~250 MB of RAM. That's what I get for being a retard and buying a prebuilt in 2004. I scavenged some RAM from my dad's old computer to bump it up to 1 GB now but it still can't even load a webm without chugging hard and I only get like 3 fps on it. Now it's mainly just used as a backup since I got my new computer with 8 GB. But let me say, to go from 250 MB to 8 GB overnight was as close as I can figure it feels like to setting foot into Heaven.
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>>51561322
sounds liek you had proper battlestation with 250-1gb ram
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Having over 16 gigs of ram is a must if you work with high resolution images
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People edited video and worked with high resolution images long before 16 GB was a thing. What has changed to make it a must?
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>>51561475
higher resolution of video & images, better quality, textures etc

the availability of the hardware.. it didn't exist in the past. Why not use it if you have it.

render farms existed, clusters etc for movies.. for that reason.
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>>51561475
People have booted their pcs and waited for 20 minutes to start long before SSDs were a thing. What has changed to make it a must?
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>>51559130
Caching.Compiling code in tmpfs.
Multiple things
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>>51560587
Jesus Christ not you again.
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>>51559130
>people trying to sound smart when they really aren't
What's not to like?
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>>51559785
Nigger when's the last time you used more than 4GB of ram? 8GB is really an insurance already, for those "just in case" moments. Cramming 16GB into a laptop is like saying you need a 300 Liter fueltank on a regular sedan. It's overkill.
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>>51561913
see
>>51561541
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>>51559279
lel no
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>>51559130
How should I know.
People have the same obsession with i7's and i5's.

Meanwhile im sitting here with nearly 10 hours of battery life on a fanless ultrabook with a 6Y30 cpu that does the job

People like the idea of all that performance/power even its its not going to be utilized.
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>>51559130
Fionna MORONo amirite

but seriously, michael, you thought this would be a good facebook post?
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I use 8 and I have never encountered a problem

what kind of bloat do you fuckers use that causes you to need more than 8?
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>>51561913
Opera, Skype, League of Shitgends
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I have 16gb because I keep a VM open a lot of the time and it allows me the option to write really memory inefficient code.
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Just fuck my shit up F A M
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>>51563974
jfc u could put a turkey in there
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>>51564002
It's a busted internal sensor toh.

Intel is worse then AMD at internal motherboard sensors.
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>>51561913
I run out of RAM at 4GB all the time on just my x220 laptop. You can't even run Android studio on 4GB without disabling a bunch of shit.
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>it cost more than most people I know
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Megapixels.
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>>51559786
Will they ever learn?
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>>51559166
Average person, no.
Gaymer, no, but they think they do.
Me, Yes. Having more than 2 VM's on my laptop would be a godsend.
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I use 8+ gb ram frequently playing virtual instruments (like high end musical instrument emulation).

For example. If your running a massive (20+gb) piano sample library, you need all the samples for attack sounds first (because they sound first, before any other samples) HDD's are too slow to fetch that kind of data without perceiving latency so they store the most urgent samples in RAM. A lot of this kind of software lets you decide how much ram to dedicate to sampling and I can easily decide to use 14gb of my 16gb ram. For this type of application more RAM is without a doubt better. I wouldn't be able to play piano and drums at the same time in real-time without 16gb ram.
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Nobody mentioned ramdisks
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The more RAM you have, the more data from the disk/SSD can be cached. This essentially means, that the computer becomes faster/quicker the longer it runs and is not rebooted.
Obviously you need a fitting OS for this to work properly.
Also why just one OS when you can run any OS virtualized? This needs a lot of RAM.

Computing is changing. Of course most plebs just buy because the number is bigger and they don't actually use what they have, but their instinct seems to drive them in the correct direction.
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>Zbrush using over 19gb of RAM
>PSCC using over 9gb of RAM
>Maya and Cinema4D using basically all of your RAM from gigantic obj files
if you don't use programs like these you're totally fine with 8gb of RAM, but if you do it's actually not overkill to get 32-64gb of RAM

in fact I think 16gb should be bare minimum for shit like this
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>>51559862
Normies use Alonvvare.
And appole too...
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>>51561913
ram usage is subjective to the amount of ram you have yo

just play fallout and open chrome with a few tabs and watch it take 60% of ram. Not a flat number of gbs, 60%.
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>>51560254
What's the exact difference?
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>>51559130
What's the difference of RAM and ROM /g/?
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>>51560643
I wonder if clockmed can solder that GPU back on.
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>>51565098
Rom is the best girl, Ram is a slut.
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>>51559503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLYD_-A_X5E
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>>51559841
>anything over 16gb is a meme
off to /v/ you go
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>>51560050
Ram is so damn cheap now, I haven't run with a swap disk in years.

>>51560367
>not running with a UPC that can give you those details
it's like you want to lose data
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>>51563238
it's called real work
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Do I need more than 4gb to use xcode with the iPhone simulator in Yosemite?
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>>51559130

If you run multiple virtual machines, it's nice to have copious RAM.

Boot to linux - 4 GB
Startup WinXP VM - 2 or3 GB
Startup Win7 VM - 8 GB
Startup 2nd linux distro - 3 or 4 GB
startup freeBSD - 1 or 2 GB

Those are generous numbers, and one would rarely need all those up at once, but it's pretty easy to exceed 16 GB, let alone 8 GB. I regularly use 12 GB, usually at least once per day. A couple times per week I exceed 20 GB ... so, the 24 GB RAM I have on my VM system for testing & legacy software is a very comfy amount.

If I had a more powerful system &/or I was doing crazier shit than I already am, then I might even configure the system with 32 GB. Just In Case.

Before anyone asks, I have several software packages that run better on different OSs. So I've been known to open GIMP in a linux VM while running photoshop under WinXP (also tablet sketching capture) and CorelDraw and Painter under Win7. For one example that can easily exceed 16 GB.

I'm working on migrating to a different, less complicated configuration. But, frankly, I really enjoy the system the way I have it now. I feel like I have the greatest flexibility while using software I am very familiar with. Sometime by 2020 I'll have dropped some packages and learned new ones, so WinXP will finally be delete and (possibly) Win7 will become Win10.
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>>51559130
RAMlets, when will they learn?
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>>51559130
depends on your need..
i'll max my memory on my laptop to run many routers on GNS3.
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>tfw 12gb of RAM
>tfw want 18gb of RAM
>tfw I know it is pointless for at least a few more years
>tfw still want it
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>>51566381
>tfw 12gb of RAM
>tfw want 18gb of RAM
ditto..
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>>51566381
>12gb
3x 4gb sticks? three channel memory? old intel socket?

>18gb
wut
3x 6gb no exist? idgi
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>>51560853
my brother had that keyboard a while ago
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>>51567735
>3x 6gb no exist? idgi
2x 8gb
1x 2gb
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>>51559166
They can get confused. They can get it mixed up with storage or graphics memory.

Most normies can't be trusted to know what's in their computer beyond i3/i5/i7. And as we all know, those are just marketing terms.
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>>51565113
No, but the funniest thing about the pic is that all they had to do was clean the fan out.
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It's more "cores" with the people I'm around. Whenever I'm with a dad and his friends he always goes on about how many cores my pc has to them.

My boss does the same thing, I went to microcenter to help pick out new office stuff and he starts going on about my pc to the sales rep "tell him how many cores you have!" fucking cringey situations.
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>>51561280
real life, its even free
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>>51567735
Six 2gb sticks. Triple Channel.
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>>51567735
oh, and to get 18gb I'd just need to buy 3 more 2gb sticks. I have 12 RAM slots.
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>>51564175
20GB is 33.8 hours of cd quality audio (44100 hz samplerate, 16 bits per channel, dual channel)
20gb is 4.2
Seriously, Who the fuck has 33.8 hours of piano samples?
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>>51560587
Does all that ram do anything does that vram do anything?
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>>51559448
you mean a ram disk? you can find dozens of programs that will let you do this
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8 gigs is not enough for heavy multi taskers.

16 gigs is just barely enough at work (running vm's, client testing, automation, etc)
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>>51568355

not for him it isn't
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>>51559130
>minecraft

fuck my life why am i addicted to such a fucking pos game that destroys my ram
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>>51559130
when i was younger i thought ram was pretty much the single more important factor when it comes to performance

i remember being excited to get my 486 up to 32M ram only to find nothing i couldn't run before could run now
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Inefficient OS userlands need the OS to cache fuckloads
You know, so animations can be smoother and bloated programs like firechromefari can launch faster. Or run without swapping.

Good hardware = bad programmers
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>>51568804
quite often audio samples for editing are much higher resolution than sound stored only for playback

CD format is fine for any kind of playback purposes, but doesn't leave much headroom for editing
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>>51565566
Fake work: making an iPhone app in a bloated DE. needs: lots of RAM because shit software
Real work: Working on an IC, writing device drivers, working on kernel source. needs: a computer from 1994 because lightweight and often legacy software
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>>51559130
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>>51569525
This girl is fucking hot
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>>51565703
probably you should get 8gb
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AWESOME BLOGPOSTING!

SHARED IT ON TUMBLER AND SUBSCRIBED TO YOUR NEWSLETTER!
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>>51559254
>after my IGP took its chunk.
>IGP
found your problem.
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>>51559936
>NEVER OBSOLETE
>Upgrade your PC to the fastest model on the market every 2 years for only $99!
xd
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>>51569646
epic troll post bro xD, you showed him!
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>>51560086
>FSB:DRAM
>1:16
THE FUCK
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>>51560587
Print-key, faggot. No need for a program to do screenshots.
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>>51559130
>200GB OF RAM
It isn't that much desu senpai baka
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Plot twist: she bought a second hand server with 200GB of RAM for $300
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>>51559130
>tfw upgraded my laptop from 3GB to 5GB but I've never seen it break 600MB in usage
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>>51564132
btw I forgot to say, you really need to posess a superior intellect such as mine to read constructor specs.
Ok, I'm moving out now ;) ****""~~-----.... nothin' personel.
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>>51559130
Holy shit I looked that girl who thinks storage space is RAM up and she's my brother's friend on Facebook, what are the fucking odds?
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>>51569657
It's a 7850k, overclocked to hell and back.

The GPU performs adequately.
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Maybe somewhere here can help me.

My RAM usage goes to 90%+ with just chrome and spotify going with 8GB of RAM.

When I add up the memory usage on the applications it doesn't even get to 1GB, yet my usage looks like pic related.

Anybody know wtf is going on?
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>>51571124
My processes tab. Nowhere near 8GB.

Computer runs like absolute ass too until I restart it. Gets to 90% quickly again though.
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>>51559279
I run a windows vm with 4gb of ram, kde, ff and skype and that leaves me with 1.5 to 2 free gigs. Gentoo x64.
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Stuff like Diva, effects, and max/msp can take up a lot of memory
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senpai
desu
kek
nigger
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>>51571124
check processes for all users
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>taking /g/ seriously ever

this is just being at desktop with opera, chrome and notepad++

its fucking 80 bucks for 2x8GB, so im definitely getting 32GB for another 80 bucks.
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>>51571366
There's only 1 user on the PC
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>>51559130
the amount of ram is the new gigahurts
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>>51571403
it does show the amount of ram used by the administrator account, dear windows user
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>>51571396

This is in Chrome, with 3 tabs open + Steam, Skype, Google Drive etc. running.
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>>51571414
This is what you're talking about, right? Only the one.
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>>51559446
Please, for the love of God, tell me you're running Linux instead of XP or I'm going to get triggered so hard.
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8gb is not enough if you play video games. Dont believe the meme that 16g+ is overkill. Its perfectly valid.
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>>51559426
i don't get it
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>>51563139
what's it called, your ultrabook?
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>>51559130
>he has 16GB of ram
come on even girls are starting to buy computers with 32GB rig
fucking manlets I sweat
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16GB isn't overkill, not everyone needs more than 8GB but there are millions of people who don't really need more than 4GB. It's completely down to what's appropriate for you.

Anyone know any more about caching with 8GB vs 16GB? I upgraded from 4 to 16 recently so I have no experience with 8.
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>>51569465
>resolution
>audio phile
lel
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>>51564853
GPU is "the cpu" of the graphics card
The graphics card is the whole component
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>>51571033
tell her i'd fuck her
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>>51573385
You're a fucking retard
From Wikipedia
>In a personal computer, a GPU can be present on a video card, or it can be embedded on the motherboard or—in certain CPUs—on the CPU die
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_processing_unit
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>>51573446
easy there m8
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>>51573446
>You're a fucking retard
why so agressive anon?
I was giving a simple explanation that a normalfag will understand. If he wants the full definiition he can just look it up.
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>>51571033
>1 mutual friend
kill yourself ebin senpai :^)
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>>51573480
excuse me?
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>>51573517
derp?
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>>51573534
>derp
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>>51573474
>>51573466
Alright m8s,I'm sorry
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>>51559786
Who the hell runs two games at once? I have never heard of someone doing this.
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>>51573534
Yeah, the mutual friend is my brother, I don't see your point
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>>51573560
He's wondering why you're friends with brother
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>tfw lots of RAM available
>tfw GTA very high settings doesn't even use it all
8GB is already enough, unless you're a smelly filthy neckbeard nerd who runs muh multiple loonix distrewz at the same time.
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>>51573597
what the hell is wrong with that?
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>>51563974
>15GB of ram
>123° motherboard
What the actual duck
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>>51573597
He moved to Australia, he wanted to keep in contact and shit. I don't see why someone would get triggered over me being friends with my brother desu senpai
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>>51573618
Brothers aren't supposed to be friends. Brothers are supposed to hate each other and occasionally fuck.
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>>51573675
lay off the anime senpai
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>>51573598
salut !
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>>51573699
lay off the NON-anime, bruh
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>>51571033
look up her comments and find op
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>>51573859
>"sexy ram"
>"the more the better/pricier"
>"processing speed"
Damn OP you've got some cringeworthy friends
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>>51573598
a shitty console-port is your argument against more ram? you serious?
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>>51573932
THUMBS UP SER
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>>51573859
>>51573932
>his "sexy 16gb of ram laptop" has a 1.35ghz dual core amd processor, integrated graphics and a 1366 x 768 15.6 inch screen
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>>51574039
and it's $345 which is funny because
>cost more than most people I know
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>>51574039
>code
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>>51574039
>CUK Lenovo
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>>51559426
This comparison reminds me of how Samsung phones have better specs than iPhones yet still run slower. Almost same story as "I have more ram therefore I can run more apps"
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>>51574039
>CUK
>CUK
>CUK
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>>51559426
Although I'm not a fan of Apple's software, I love to see some /g/ clueless retards lose it evry time a new iPhone is released.

>lol, look at the new iPhone, it has an 8 MP camera, that's so old!
>how is it possible everyone is claiming the iPhone has the best camera? my phone has 16 MP, 16 MP > 8 MP therefore mine is better!

>lol, look at the new iPhone, it has a dual-core processor, it's 2012 specs!
>how is it possible the iPhone is faster than my phone in benchmarks? it's a dual-core, that's 2012 specs, my phone has a quad-core processor!

I actually saw someone here asking how is it possible that Apple's dual-core SoCs are faster than quad-core Android ones, because "this is literally against physics laws".
Also, some idiots here actually think their quad-core phones are faster than dual-core laptops, despite the fact that laptops have TDPs five times as large (and that's the 15W ones, let alone the 35W ones), just because it's MOAR CORES.

Also, a non-retarded SoC for Android that focuses on high single-thread performance instead of ridiculous ammounts of cores when? I'm tired of the MOAR COARS meme.
>inb4 Android is well multi-threaded!
That doesn't mean apps are as well. Quite the opposite actually.
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>>51573947
>shitty
>>>/v/
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>>51573558
You see it a lot on twitch. People who got their name streaming league will play other games on stream while they wait in queue.
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>>51574039
>CUK Lenovo
Oh my, memes are real
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Normalfags don't know what RAM does but they see that the number is pretty big compared to the numbers on other devices and assume it means "it has 16GB of RAM performance!"
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>>51559130

Been sitting on 8GB and haven't needed more than that. Especially for gaming or casual everyday use.
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>>51559130
Fionna pwns a nerd by pointing out that flash is a type of random access memory too.

Way to go, girl!!
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>>51559130

Fuck off Catherine

Why does she put up a front when she obviously doesn't know what she's talking about?
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>>51559446
Not really that bad if you run windows XP or some *nix OS. On any modern windows that would probably be unbearable since ~500MB would be reserved for system processes.
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i think /g/ is just as guilty as this type of oversimplification. If I asked what's the difference between a 4GB gtx 960 and a 2GB, I bet the first answer would be something along the lines of "the 4gb one is 5% faster" when really it is a function of how much vram the application requires and any percentage difference given is meaningless.
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>>51568182
how many cores do you have?
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>>51577019
4GB would be better at higher resolutions or with higher resolution textures assuming all the other specs were the same. In most tasks they would be functionally identical though.
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>>51559786
bruh I got 12 gigs but I still have only 1-3 tabs open in firehog
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>>51577019

This >>51577066

If you play games at 1080p with one monitor and keep texture/AA settings moderate to low you can get by with 2GB even in the near future.
I think it's worth getting 4GB though because high res textures can really make a game look great all on their own.
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More than 4 GiB is not necessary for most people. 8 GiB is enough for practically everyone. I need 16 GiB since I routinely use 3+ VMs, but that's not at all common.

Most people could get by just fine with a $300 laptop. Spending >$1000 on a Facebook machine is retarded.
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I was gonna post I never use more than 8GB of ram but clearly I'm an idiot
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>>51577276

What do you do that uses up so much RAM?
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>>51577394
The botnet of course
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>>51577394
2 IDE's, Photoshop, Firefox with a million tabs open, Excel, Torrentin, VLC playing
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>>51559130
>8 GB system
>use firefox
>play gaem
>game takes 3 GB of RAM and firefox gets paged down to 1 GB
>try to use firefox
>locks up and crashes
Anyone who says 8 GB is enough is fucking retarded and should kill themselves.
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>>51565241
I sure as hell know what's harder now.
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>>51577535

>he uses Mozilla's memory leak simulator

No wonder you're having problems.
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>>51577535
So... what are you doing with the other 4GBs?
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>>51577974
Windows was using it.
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>>51577998
Yeah sure, 4 GBs for windows
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