post yfw you just bought a monitor when you could've go

Why do that when I just picked up a 4k Samsung for $400?

>>51530036
that will cost $300 in six months, guaranteed

>>51530036
>buy two acers
>higher resolution and double the space

not seeing this means that you're a retard, sorry.

>>51530005
bought asus 27 gsync ips 500e

shits expensive in north Europe

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>>51530005
>>51530036
why buy either when the Dell is probably going to last twice as long because it's a fucking Dell and not some shitastic acer or samsung?

But TN to panel OP

>>51530155
yeah, that's true. after using an IPS you really will never want to touch another TN.

>>51530131
get a p2415q; 4k, 24", Same reliable Dell brand.

if your OS sucks at scaling I guess that's an issue.

>>51530209
>$400
>not even an IPS

ahahahaha no fucking way

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I haven't bought a new monitor in 7 years.

I'll buy a new one as soon as there's a good 24" 4k IPS monitor.

>mfw 27" won't fit on my desk

>>51530254
the p2415q is AH-IPS. When I googled "p2415q" and ^F'd for "ips" I got 7 results in the snippets that all provide sufficient context to confirm that the panel is IPS.

What excuse do you have for coming to the wrong conclusion about this?

>>51530355
see >>51530209
It's 4k, 24", made by Dell, does 60Hz, and despite the incompetence of some people to research products is indeed an IPS display.

>>51530355
I'm in two minds on upgrading my current monitor (ASUS MX239H). Is there a discernable difference between 4K and 1080p on a 24 inch? Or is it only noticeable with 27+

>>51530131
Because the dell monitor will turn yellow over time.

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>>51530401

That does look nice. Maybe I'll get one next year

unless there's something horribly wrong with it that you're hiding from me

are you hiding something from me, anon?

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60 hz is really not sufficient at 4k. People need to realise that increasing resolution without increasing refresh rate is making motion less smooth / more judder. I'll take 2560x1440 @120hz+ until there's something better.

>>51530495
Nope, although I've (only) had it in my office for the past 6 months. At home I have a pair of UP2414Qs (also Dell 24" 4k monitors, but 60Hz is trickier and they were more expensive since they came out earlier).

Between the two models, the P2415Q is better, but like I said I've only had it for about 6 months.

>tn

I wouldn't play more than $100 for it

>>51530005
>LCD
enjoy your image burn

>>51530509
1) what are you talking about?
2) the extent to which 60Hz matters is entirely dependent on what you're doing. I code with my monitors. *Sometimes* I watch videos (youtube, netflix, occasionally anime, stuff like that), but I don't game. Nothing merits higher refresh rates (and I've used my 4k monitors at 30Hz for coding and with the exception of a marginally perceptible sluggishness with the mouse, I saw no difference).

Again, this is entirely about what you're using it for. If you're primarily text-based, you could drop as far as 30Hz and the text (from an editor, browser, terminal, etc...) will continue to *not move* 30 times a second just like it would at 60Hz (or 120 or whatever).

>>51530005
U3415W owner here. Sorry I dont live off of mommy's paycheck

>>51530070
>Buy cheapo Acer monitor
>Get eyecancer from the god awful TN panel

>>51530005
Why are there no good IPS or true LED monitors that are 1440p or 1660p and have nice thin bezels and are 1ms response time

>>51530056
>durr why buy thing when it will be cheaper a million years from now

BECAUSE I FUCKING WANT IT TODAY FAGGOT

I'm poor so I'm going to buy a €120 22 inch 1080p60 LG IPS

>>51530646
its a cheapo display, 4k for 400 dollars? its shit

>>51530646
kek you're so fucking dumb it's ridiculous. the only good 4k displays are like $750+ retard. you can get a top tier 1080p display now for $200 because they aren't the newest tech anymore so it would be safe to say to get a GOOD 1080p IPS DELL/Benq monitor now instead of overpaying for some shit-tier 4k monitor you fucking dumb faggot

>>51530748
>the only good 4k displays are like $750+
such as what? can you point to one of these good monitors? Or more specifically, can you point to one of the cheaper ones listed here (like the p2415q) and explain why it's not as good as this 750 dollar monitor you're not naming?

>>51530056
only mega austists would wait 6 months to save $100 on a new monitor lmfao

>>51530495
maybe the shills haven't told you but that Dell is 50ms response and has light bleed. gg. if it's a dell 4k IPS for $400, it's definitely shit. that's what their nice 2K goes for.

>>51530768
see >>51530792 and stfu before you do your research pls

>>51530773
good goy

>>51530809
Thanks for pointing me to that later post. I'm keeping up with the thread, so the tone of your post - like I was being negligent for not reading the post that came after mine - is unnecessary and unwarranted. Moreover, it makes you look like an arrogant asshole.

I don't know how to quantify light bleed so unless you can offer an external review that offers a meaningful measurement of this I'm going to write that off. As for response time, all of the reviews I'm seeing now - with an eye on "response time" - report 8ms and thereabout (under 10ms). Certainly nothing close to 50ms.

Do you have any proof of these claims? Can you substantiate this with more than "it's just obvious"/"you're dumb if you don't vacuously agree with me"?

>>51530953
some of the actual people that bought in the amazon reviews say the colors aren't good, there is light bleed, and that the actual response time is 50ms.

>>51530768
Cheap 4k monitors are terrible. Huge bezels, uneven brightnes levels, light bleeding, inaccurate colors, etc. Just buy an Ultrasharp.

>>51530005
I've been looking for a cheap secondary screen to pair with my nice ips 27" 1440 screen. This is perfect. Just ordered one. Thanks OP. Free returns until the end of January if it turns out it sucks too.

>>51530953
lol you're dodging that some shitty 4k monitor sucks so much right now. do you not fucking realize that if it was a high quality display, it would be easily the biggest deal on the fucking planet? it's a dell ultrasharp, IPS, 4k? it would never cost $400. gtfo you stupid ass shill.

>>51531018
but it's not even IPS...

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>>51530748
>the only good 4k displays are like $750+ retard

Not really

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1164749-REG/lg_27mu67_b_27_class_4k_uhd.html

>>51531048
>huge ass bezel

>>51531048
>LG
>good
thanks for the giggle

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>>51531048
keep projecting that buyers remorse anon with your shite 4k

>>51530988
While I usually appreciate Amazon reviews, I don't trust them for quantitative readings or even qualitatively measured stuff like light bleed. The crowd is good for reporting on "gross statistical stuff", like whether a certain percentage of these devices turn out to be lemons after 6 months. "Will Adams from Kentucky" hasn't given anyone any reason to believe that he knows how to measure response time, let alone anything else.

Looking at the reviews written by people who make it their business, I see <10ms response times. I don't know how to satisfactorily look into light bleed, and unless someone can offer a good way, I'm going to have to insist that we drop that criterion, because it's becoming this vague bogeyman.

>>51530991
Are you speaking generally again or are you talking about a specific model? I'm doing your work for you at this point and not finding the evidence you seem to want - no review sites reporting uneven lighting, light bleed, etc...

As for bezels, I use the P2415q and the bezels are reasonably sized. As I say that, I hope we can both agree what a profoundly stupid discussion this is to have, and that if you don't like the size of this bezel, then you should just say "I'm looking for a monitor with a smaller bezel". You might be looking for a while, but lumping it in with uneven brightness and all sorts of other measurable faults makes it sound like the bezel is some unique shortcoming, when it's evidently just a fact of all monitors.

>>51531024
What am I dodging? I'm asking for some measurable issue with it that you can cite in a review.

If this is too big a burden of proof for you, maybe it's not worth it for you to be posting

>>51531036
I don't mind that it's not for $200. I already have a nice ips monitor for primary use. This is replacing the old 22" tn screen next to it that I use for overflow workspace and browsing while I have a movie going. TN is good enough for that.

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>>51531139
>I use the P2415q
no way, you do?!? guys, he uses the monitor he's shilling. weird!

>>51531168
Are you trying to make the argument that someone who doesn't use a monitor would necessarily be a more reliable informant on the monitor's qualities?

>>51531168
[spoiler]that's how reviews work, anon. you have to use it to know what you're talking about.

that's how the amazon reviews section works[/spoiler]

>>51530827
Shut up poorfag.

What's a good cheap IPS with no (or low) light bleed?

>TN
Into the trash it goes

>>51531476
Acer MX239H, I'm using one and it's great

>>51531495
ASUS* sorry

>>51531268
the shill ITT isn't reviewing anything. he's just shilling his shit-tier 4k.

>>51531395
did I hit a nerve?

>>51531558
it sounds like anything that disagrees with the worldview you brought into this thread is shilling. at what point would you take a step back and acknowledge that you *might* have been wrong, and that your behavior as an asshole was especially unwarranted?

>>51531600
literally the only shilling ITT is you with your 4K monitor, anon.

>>51531632
people were asking about 4k monitors and i said that i had the p2415q and the up2414q and that the former was better, and satisfies all the criteria people asked for before.

you seem to have some delusion about this immense conspiracy where dell or someone pays money to get their brand on 4chan. does that really not strike you as especially insane right at face value?

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>>51531709
>mfw I use a dell ultrasharp myself

I almost bought this, but then after searching around I found out the title of the listing is wrong. reponse time is actually 6ms. bummer.

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Oh god this or a multi input korean monitor. I just don't know anymore...

>>51530005
>2015
>60 Hz

>>51530005
>1ms
Thats not how you spell 6ms.
Almost pulled the trigger there. That was close.

>>51532928
Being IPS is way more important than 1ms response time, anon.

I'm a poorfag so I figured I'd ask here. Are there any good monitors I could pick up for $100 or less? Just need a good secondary monitor for development purposes.

>>51533019
yes

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>>51532988
its a TN panel.

Thoughts on this monitor? I'm looking for an IPS at around a $200 price range and have heard Dells are good monitors. I'm new to monitors, and only know the difference between IPS and TN. Any help or advice would be appreciated

http://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-U2414H-24-Inch-Monitor/dp/B00GTV05XG/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8

>>51534292
>OLED
Don't buy it if you plan on keeping it for a few ears and using it for many hours a day. It's going to yellow over time.

>TN Panel

Enjoy your shit OP

>>51534358
Oh balls, just realized I misclicked onto a different monitor.

Ignore that post, your choice is good senpai.

>>51530579
well yeah obviously
only for gay men does the higher refresh rates matter, you might as well use a TV or a crt otherwise

>>51534358
you almost made me freak. literally using my 2414 that i just bought a couple of days ago and thought you knew something i didn't.

120hz single input korean
or just stick 60hz multi input korean with a frame of input lag.

It seems like an obvious choice but shit senpai. I gotta get my console gaming in there baka desu senpai

can anyone recommend me a good 24-27" IPS monitor with decent refresh rate?

I was gonna settle for XL2411Z, but I some anons said that TN panel suck and should be avoided
or is that a meme?

budget is anywhere up to $700

>>51534488
IPS = perfect viewing angles, perfect colors

TN = worse in all of that but cheaper to get 1ms response

AKA do you have no life and play video games(TN) or do you not?(IPS)

>>51530131
>Samsung
>Shit
what

>>51534527
>viewing angles
has anyone ever not sat right in front of thier monitor lol wtf

>>51534536
samsung is definitely not that great in the monitor department

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>>51534410
Sorry for the almost heart attack senpai I'll be more careful next time I promise

>>51534537
yes? a 24" monitor is big enough to where you'll want to sit back a bit. you don't realize how shit the colors and angles are on a tn until you try an ips. everything looks perfect from literally any angle you look at it, and better than any tn you'll look at. literally no reason to get a tn panel, ever.

Considering picking up one of these, since my shitty 21.5 Acer TN panel is about to shit the bed.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0148NNKTC/

It seems like a great deal, but I'm not too sure. It will be my first IPS panel monitor because I'm too poor to afford a nice one. Are these okay /g/? Or am I better off buying something else?

>>51534581
$200 is the sweet spot for 1080p IPS right now. go lower and the quality will be shitty.

>>51530056
And it'll cost $100 in two years. Maybe if you stick with your Thinkpad T60 for seven more years you can get a monitor that was a decent resolution five years ago in another decade by saving up your allowance.

>>51534602

so what do you recommend?

>>51534578
not him, but this is specious.

Sitting back is different from sitting off-center. if you're sitting at your desk and you're the only person looking at the monitor, nothing is preventing you from positioning the monitor so that it's directly facing you.

>>51530005

>1ms

Might be time to learn to read

>>51534602
Well, it DID list for $180 before the discount. Is that still acceptable?

>>51534627
http://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-U2414H-24-Inch-Monitor/dp/B00GTV05XG/ref=pd_sim_147_8?ie=UTF8&dpID=41UAss8C3rL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0922K6030VXWGGFTD652
only because it's what I use

Hey guys i'm building my new pc, i got a r9 fury and i'm looking for a 27" screen, is there something good for gaming in the 390€-450€ range?

>>51534663
Nice, definitely considering that now! The usb 3.0 charge ports seem quite handy too.

Can you do me a favor and measure the bezel in mm? I'm curious to know the actual dimension.

>>51534578
So what would be a good IPS monitor that still has a decent refresh rate then?

they said XB270HU is good with gsync and all but my toaster probably cant run anything over 1080p with decent framerate
or can I run it at lower res instead of native?

is this any good?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236453&ignorebbr=1

>>51534689
i actually can't but the bezel is pretty tiny. I didn't really even notice it until I got it. i wouldn't be surprised if it was 3mm. the bezel is basically not there as far as i'm concerned.

How big of a deal is the refresh rate for gaming? I only want to spend around $200 but do not want a tn panel. Is the ghosting really bad at like 6 or 8ms?

U3415W. First ultrasharp I've owned. Never buying another non ultrasharp monitor ever again in my life. Everything else is shit compared to this. Plus the warranty

>>51534758
ms on monitors is your input lag. Any child that says they can tell the input difference from 1-8 is fucking retarded.

Refresh rate matters because it allows higher frame with vsync on.

>>51534765
ultrasharp is god-tier and always has been. you get what you pay for. IMO they're as close as you can get to perfect, just in general.
>>51534758
unless you're doing some fast paced stuff, I wouldn't waste the money. You're not going to get an IPS at 1ms for $200, that's for sure.

>>51534786
Or rainman

>>51534800
I had Korean panels that were awesome, then went to a Sharp dell, s2415h which was great, then the ultrasharp 34 21:9 and my god. Yeah it was nine hunnit, but wurfffff

>>51534826
>buying a 21:9 monitor
>literally saying "nine hunnit, but wurfffff"

>>51534844
>literally

People that say this are ignorant. He can't type something figuratively now can he?

>>51534844
Sorry bud, I don't live off of mommy and daddy. Some of us here are older than 25 years old.

My monitor and GPU probably cost more than your entire computer.

>>51534869
i think he's objecting to "nine hundred, but worth it" being written the way a nigger would verbally say it.

>>51534887
>tfw my entire tower I built costs $257

>brand new

>after tax

:S

>>51534902
Celeron?
Diablotek psu?
Agp?

>>51534887
>>51534869
i was pointing out that he bought a fedora monitor, and then separately that he wrote "nine hunnit" and "wurfffff"

>>51534902
How bad are those components?

>>51534900
meh, they have a lingo that werks no need to racist home slice

>>51534919
A fedora monitor would be an asus rog monitor. Not an ultra sharp.

You're confirming your age the more you post. <21

>>51534914
haha, not quite.

>>51534922
2x4gb 8GB DDR3 1866
Rosewill FBM mATX case
Gigabyte A78(?) mATX
Seasonic platinum PSU
X4 860K
zotac 750 ti
500gb HDD

i'll hopefully be adding an SSD from one of these BF sales. i use the dell ultrasharp 2414 as my monitor.

>>51530445
I can distinguish individual pixels on my 23" 1080p display, so yeah. Although 4k may be overkill, 1440p would be perfect

Call me when LCD get 0ms latency, >160Hz, and true blacks - at >100ppi.


Tbh I can live with fixed resolution, no halation, etc, but the blacks/latency/slow speed really kill it for me.

>>51530005
I would if it was an IPS or VA. I usually put my monitor on mounts so I can rotate them at will, but turning TN panels sideways fucks with the viewing angles enough to give each eye a slightly differently tinted image.

>>51530483
My 14 years old Dell ultrasharp is still bretty gud. I think you got cuucked.

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>>51530005
I have a 27" IPS only 1080p but can do 3D. Still a little jelly at that price.

>>51536485
Oh, it's TN? Same reaction image...

>>51530005
>>51530131
>>51531048
Why are the bezels on these so fucking thick?

>>51537854
that dell was just an old one that i already have a picture of. the ones on sale this year don't have bezels at all

>>51530005
>60Hz
>6ms

I'm good.

>>51537876
Oh I see. Do you have a model number for one like it? I'm looking at getting two U2414h's but might reconsider if I can find something nice on sale. Just want thin bezels and a quality brand.. Don't need a trillion Hz refresh rate either.

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>all of these people that actually care about response time down to the single milliseconds
lmao as if any of you are "pro gamers" or something and would ever need or actually notice that, ever.

>>51537960
the 2414 is exactly what i'm talking about as i also bought one with overnight shipping for giggles, and now know that I will never use a TN panel again or anything without a stand that lets you adjust in any possible way you could think of. i'm pretty sure i'm only going to buy ultrasharps from now on, even. it's just that nice. also the glare is from my huge window that sits right behind me. this handles glare very well and I only keep it to 30/100 on brightness. just perfect.

>>51538011
That's actually exactly what I was hoping to hear. It looks really really good in your pic too, hnggg.

And yeah I agree with you on the response time thing...

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>>51538037
just my advice, but I care way, way more about it being a good brand than about price and I think that this for $200 was a good one... buuuut if you literally couldn't give one single fuck about the stand, which makes some things convenient, then you could prooobably get a 24" 1920x1080 IPS for a little bit less. I'm happy with this, though.

http://camelcamelcamel.com/Dell-UltraSharp-U2414H-24-Inch-Monitor/product/B00GTV05XG?context=browse

related, this monitor has only been around this price a few times. it has gone anywhere from $220 - $250 in the past six months. you could probably get a better monitor for $200. I don't know, though. i'd rather have a dell than an acer or something, basically.

for example

http://camelcamelcamel.com/Acer-R240HY-bidx-23-8-Inch-Widescreen/product/B0148NNKTC?context=browse

is something that a lot of people are shilling, yet it has basically always been around that price. i just don't see the point because it looks cheap and is cheap. it doesn't even have a VESA mount and weighs apparently ~6 pounds all together. you could take a chance and save about $60+, though. This dell weighs I think 12.5 pounds. You're paying for the nice stand/more ports/better design/higher quality with this Dell and I think it's worth paying the extra ~$60 and not ever having to worry about it.

maybe i'm biased because I bought it, though.

pic related, some shitty thinkpad I hooked up to it and currently still have it hooked up to until I build my desktop.

>>51538163
>tfw shilling my ultrasharp on thanksgiving day

I'm thankful that I don't have to go anything for thanksgiving this year.

>>51530005
dude that monitor is using a TN panel, i can only see colorblind people buying a fucking TN panel.

Why are OLEDs not really a thing in computer monitors?

>>51530005

>Newegg

Into the trash it goes. They don't even bother to pack their monitors and just slap the shipping labels on the actual box. Ordered the new ROG Swift to test out and the box came crushed, a corner completely ripped and the styrofoam on the inside was punctured enough to see the monitor itself. Newegg wanted to fight with me on returning it and tried to tell me I had to open up the damaged box. Fuck that.

Meanwhile, the Acer from Amazon came in a nice big box with padding and no issues at all.

>>51538300
p sure it has problems with yellowing after little time/is more expensive

don't actually know

>>51538308
Really I got an OLED tv and it's hard for me to go back to my IPS monitor. Just wish OLED did higher then 60 refresh

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>>51538321
the way AMOLED is designed makes it so that close up they don't appear as sharp as they would as you would watch a TV sitting on the couch or whatever. it costs much more, they suffer from burn in and pixel degradation. IPS have more neutral, natural colors while AMOLED will have more vivid, oversaturating colors. they're really only made for entertainment and you shouldn't use one for a computer monitor, and yes the whites will eventually appear yellow overtime.

basically, you have no reason to even buy an AMOLED unless you just want the most ridiculous colors ever that in reality aren't what the media you're watching isn't even supposed to look like. even pro photographers don't buy AMOLED for this reason. it costs too much and has too many problems. for monitors, you want the natural colors and clarity.

it's only my opinion, but I think AMOLED is retarded.

>>51538417
>they suffer from burn in and pixel degradation.
Amoled phone user here, this is bullshit, my 4 year old phone has perfect screen with heavy usage daily.

>>51538474
my galaxy tab S 10" had >>51538417 problems

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>>51538474
What phone had an AMOLED display 4 years ago?

>>51538542
Samsung Galaxy S2 for one. Samsung had several phones with AMOLED displays back then.

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>built in speakers

how is this a thing

>>51538623
This

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should I go for seed or colors?

dell u2414h or benq xl2411z

I do play csgo pretty often but I do fine on my current 60hz tn, though I can tell it would make a noticeable but small difference. I don't have the hardware to run most games that fast though. I hear the benq has pretty good colors for a TN, so does my current monitor. is the dell improvement worth it?

>>51538474
nexus 4

>>51538623

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED#Super_AMOLED_Plus

>Super AMOLED Plus, first introduced with the Samsung Galaxy S II and Samsung Droid Charge smartphones, is a branding from Samsung where the PenTile RGBG pixel matrix (2 subpixels) used in Super AMOLED displays has been replaced with a traditional RGB RGB (3 subpixels) arrangement typically used in LCD displays. This variant of AMOLED is brighter and therefore more energy efficient than Super AMOLED displays[26] and produces a sharper, less grainy image because of the increased number of subpixels. In comparison to AMOLED and Super AMOLED displays, they are even more energy efficient and brighter. However, Samsung cited screen life and costs by not using Plus on the Galaxy S II's successor, the Samsung Galaxy S III

basically was a better AMOLED that fixed some issues but cost even fucking more than actual AMOLED. just fuck that.

>>51538781
the dell is always worth it.

>>51530005
Where did you get the dell from?

Any thoughts on the Asus pb287q?

>>51530748
> GOOD monitor
> Benq

pick one

>>51538963
only for gaming

dell beats everything else

>muh pixels

>>51539018
this to be quite honest family. 1080p is still optimal up to 27"

27 inches is a little big, personally I like my monitors smaller as I am usually not more than an arm's length away and when they get to that size they start going out the periphery of my vision.