Anybody here get LASIK or other laser eye surgery done? Any

A friend of mine got it and had no adverse effects.

But I've heard it can go really wrong. Like not being able to drive at night time anymore n shit like that.

>>51525887
>I've heard it can go really wrong
All of the LASIK horror stories are from a really small minority of back-alley procedures from when LASIK was still really new

It's improved a *lot* over the last several years, to the point where you're more likely to get bitten by a shark while your airplane is crashing than have a fucked up lasik procedure.

I went in for a consultation once. To my dismay, I learned that my corneas were extremely shallow, to a point where there wasn't enough for the laser to burn away to correct my eyesight.

So, if I want to correct my eyesight permanently, I'm stuck with the option of lens implants, which, while perfectly serviceable as far as I know, cost twice as much, putting them beyond my reach.

>>51525977
Rather than horror stories of the procedure itself, I'm more worried about the flaps ripping off later when rubbing my eyes or swimming or some shit.

Horror stories?

Unrelated, but my aunt once had to undergo surgery for some shit she had in one eye. The person in charge of giving her the right dose of anesthesia fucked up and my aunt was awake but paralyzed during the whole procedure

>>51527231
Did she sue for millions?

>>51526061
i think there is some negative pressure in the eye that sucks them shut?
i cant remember and its making me queezy so im out

I've been looking into it for my wife. Modern procedures have some of the highest success rates / lowest complication rates of any surgery. For "wavefront" LASIK you're looking at a little over $2000 per eye on average.

Ex's sis did it, went fine
Other ex did it, went fine

One of my friends had it done and he loves it. When my dad went in for cataract surgery, they fixed his vision as well. It's pretty common these days.

>>51527712
>$2000 per eye

Fucking hell

Then again depending on how blind you are and for how long you've been using glasses that might be about the total amount of money you've spent on glasses

The ones I'm wearing currently were like €500

>>51527765

Yeah, I would pay that in a heartbeat. Hell, I'd take out a loan to get that done without a second thought. Being almost blind is fucking bullshit. Unfortunately, the lens implants I'd need are about $4000 per eye.

I might still get a loan for that, once I have a job again and my credit cards are in a more manageable state.

>>51525822
I got lazer eye surgery a couple years ago when I was 8 years old because my eyes sometimes became "crossed-eyed".

I haven't had any problems with my eyes since and I have great 20/20 vision.

>>51527790

I'd do it too but I don't have four grand
>tfw you'll never be a pilot because you have shit tier eyes

Can you at least get a license for small shit like Cessnas if you use glasses?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W-DtIAzWVc

>>51527800
10 year old be gone

>>51527838
>Can you at least get a license for small shit like Cessnas if you use glasses?
My father and uncle both needed glasses and flew small aircraft. I highly doubt they would change the rules when glasses are even more normal these days.

i had PRK when I was 19.
the procedure was less than 10 minutes and it was painless.
suffering next day.
couldn't see very well for a week afterwards.
dry eyes to an almost painfull extent were common in hot weather for the next 4
years but vision was 20/20.
now I don't have a problem with my eyes but my vision quality isn't top notch.
still very good though.
i should have kept my glasses

>>51525822
>>51525822

Go to South Korea mate. I am planning it next year.
Much cheaper and very high quality
You go there for holiday and maybe get a waifu too.

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>>51529383

>>51529556
the guys is a loser for real. if somehow talked shit like that to my qt I would just destroy him
doesnt matter if bigger or stronger i would just go for it

>>51527231
Eye surgeries are usually done when the patient is awake. Are you sure she was supposed to be out cold?

>>51529574
oh wow
such a real man
throwing a tantrum and getting yourself arrested to protect your precious feelings

>>51527231
This is the thing you should be most worried about, as it is one of the more common surgical mishaps (though still very rare.)
Lots of stories about people being paralyzed yet fully aware during colonoscopies

>>51529602
tantrum? have you seen the video? he was being humiliated and he didnt say a word.
what a fucking faggot

>>51529620
>he was being humiliated
So what? Why do you care if someone insults you? Are your feelings that fragile?

Grow up, dude.

>>51529636
ahah i bet you get bullied every day and stay in a fucking corner to avoid people right?

he was insulting both the guy and his gf. you may have no self respect but i cant tolerate a fat ugly chinese talk shit to my qt

>>51526061

I was worried about that too, but it didn't happen. I think the worst part of the whole process was smelling your eyeball burning.

>>51525822
Never realized how much an eye looks like an oven burner until now. I wonder if it is more efficient like that with all the rectangles.

>>51526061
Once your eyes fully heal it wont be a problem. Ask your doc about vitamins n shit to heal your eyes faster and stronger.

I'd be leary, do some research on the net. Lasik Nightmares

>>51525887
I got it done, it went well, better than 20/20 in both eyes but my night vision is a bit strange.

I can still drive just fine at night but once the sun sets down I can feel my vision gradually degrading and things I could read perfectly fine at a distance during the day things start to appear blurry. It can be annoying in dimly lit rooms.

Went in for my annual checkup and they said they could make it better with a free touch up. Problem is that there's a 1% chance it could make my vision worse and I don't really have the time to go there during the work week. Unless you get diabetes or some serious eye disease, your lasik eyesight is frozen the way it is forever which is why it's guaranteed for a lifetime with free touch ups.

Would I do it again if I had to? Fuck yes, no more glasses and being able to wake up and see the imperfections in ceiling is nothing short of amazing.

>>51527231
You're awake and the surgeon talks to you during the procedure. Mostly telling you to look inside the circle while the laser does its thing.

>>51526061
>a *lot* over the last several years, to the point where you're more likely to get bitten by a shark while your airplane is crashing than have a fucked up lasik procedure.
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> Anonymous 11/25/15(Wed)13:38:33 No.51526039▶
>>51525822
I didn't want a flap either, so I got PKR instead of LASIK. The healing took longer, but now my eyesight is 20/25 in both eyes. I never imagined this much detail in everything. The entire thing for both eyes (including medications before and after) was ~$4300. If your work has a FSA account plan, or a HSA I highly recommend using those to pay with pre-tax money.

It's ok so long as you make a recovery point before the surgery.

>>51529724

>smelling your eyeball burning

well im fucking out of this thread

>>51529615
That's not a big deal. I've done that to several women with a few meters of rope.

>>51525822
Nah but I rekt my eye with a laser once

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It's great short term, but if you're sitting in front of a monitor all day (which, obviously, you are), your eyesight is going to degrade once again, through no fault of the lasik.
This
>>51530471
>your lasik eyesight is frozen the way it is forever
is utterly false insofar as your eyes never changing. No, the changes made during lasik won't shift or undo, but your eyes change constantly, it's simple biology. Depending on what you do with your eyes, the prescription upon which your lasik surgery was based at that point in time may change in as little as a year or two. Or you might get 10-15 years out of it. But however long it takes for your eyes to age out of 20/20, it's not forever.

I got lasik in ~2002, paid $2,600 then, and the following 5-6 years were truly amazing, even considering the night vision halos and the very traumatizing Clockwork Orange eyeball sawblade/burning nightmare. But of course, sitting in front of a monitor all day took it toll. My prescription slowly changed and almost before I knew it, I needed glasses because myopia had set in something fierce and two or three astigmatisms re-appeared in each eye. I just got glasses again in ~2012, but I'd say my eyesight had diminished 3-4 years before that, it just happened gradually enough that I didn't notice.

tl;dr Lasik is a good idea if you 1: Read and understand the horrifying waiver you sign beforehand, and 2: Understand that your eyes WILL change, and the lasik correction is not permanent, just like a pair of glasses is not permanently.

Was supposed to schedule it for December, then my car fucked up and now half the money meant for Lasik is gone to car repairs.

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>>51525822
>tfw one detached retina and cataract
life is but a sick joke

>>51532385
Not him but I got my eyes done in 2004 when they still used the guillotine to create the flap and my eye exam a year ago still had 20/20 numbers. I don't think it was even LASIK back then.

The technology has improved and they can now predict the way the eye will changes so it remains within the threshold of the modifications.

>>51529705
fuck off jew

It started with double vision / ghosting on black on white text, it progressed into seeing a second copy of things a bit above them (but with like 50% transparency) under somewhat powerful light (above 60W) feels bad man

>>51532746
Those are the symptoms of astigmatism.

Why do you need to be awake during the procedure? Can't they fixate your eyes when you knocked out cold or something?

>>51532769
Because you need to look into the laser while it does its thing.

>>51532769
if u wanna do it u gotta do it bro u feel me, docs say nah, u stayin wide awake brotha. wide-eyed and bushy tailed for the duration u feel me

>>51532768
yeah, no money to fix it though, means no qt 3.14 riced text editor *cries*

>>51532791
But Im scared desu senpai familia to be completely honest

>>51532385
>I got lasik in ~2002

You can't compare the tech from back then with that of today. The field never stops evolving.

did LASIK 5 months ago, now i have this strange double vision in each eye, it affects the most with monitors.

my vision is not as good as it was with my glasses, maybe it will heal with time, but right now i regret doing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoXC3wL5AHM

Every time I hear of lasik I think of the Aqua Teens.

>>51532820
I had that in my left eye after getting lasik, a 5 minute touch up under the laser brought it back up to perfection.

>>51532864
after how much time after the surgery did you have the touch up?

>>51528484
>becoming a myopic subhuman in the first place

>>51526061
You want to keep them well lubricated. Sorry for using that word. I had a problem with my left eye as it would dry out at night. The eyelid pulled the flap up a couple times. Took several days to recover normal vision. Now, the only issue I have is needing readers, cause I am old. 45 is old right?

>>51532972
Not the other guy, but had a touch up 4 months later.

You can only do it once, and your vision WILL deteriorate again.

Hold off until your middle aged..

>>51533266
Lel, grandpa. You probably did lasic back when it was done with a chisel kek. Nowdays its all magical meme technology. I did lasic 4 times already and now I can see like a predator. Got a free game and a rebate too.

>>51531949
Yeah I'm thinking about PRK. Lasik will always scare me unless there's some way to glue the flap shut. Whenever some sand or bug gets in my eye I rub it raw, so I doubt just healing would keep that flap shut. What would even happen in the case the far gets ripped out and is lost? (fuck the thought of this made me cringe) Do they make an artificial one or are you fucked?

>>51533363
No faggot. 20/15 vision. I can read micro print just fine. Never needed glasses. I was talking specifically about a friend.

is there any percievable different between wearing comfortable contacts and having lasik surgery done? aside from the obvious routine and hygiene of contacts. I mean the way you can see with them, any differences in distortion or clarity?

>>51533381
LASIKfag here. Your flap naturally seals shut. I rub my eyes pretty hard (since I am a diver and get shit in my mask). No adverse effects.

>>51525822
So if you don't know anything about eye correction surgery the idea is pretty simple. They smooth out the irregular surfaces of your eye hoping for a unified and flat plane. The idea is not that new, but the tech to do it properly started coming about in the late 90s. The Soviets thought they could do it using scalpels wayyyy back in the day. And for awhile it seemed ok, but the thing about cutting up your eyes is that the damage takes awhile to form. For those that underwent the Soviet RK surgery it took awhile, but eventually scar tissue started to form, and once that happened it was bye to working eyes. So what makes LASIK so special? It's a concentrated UNIFORM cut that hopefully can avoid the scar tissue. It has a pretty good track record if you go to the right places, but that being said it depends on your eye doc. Read up on the fucker, even if you get a million dollars from his mistake you only get one set of eyes. If you are looking for something similar, but without the same danger threshold you could also look into CRT contacts that reshape your eyes overnight and provide temporary corrections.

>>51533439
Can't get contacts for nearsightedness (which is 100% of /g/'s problem) and astigmatism is tough with contacts because the lenses need to be oriented correctly to work.

If anything goes wrong, you could always just kill yourself. NBD.

>>51533457

Is there anything that is permanent or offers the best longterm effects?

>>51525822
seems not many doctor get LASIK themself

>>51533510
Completely depends on a set of factors that no one can answer for you. Consult with your eye doc. Eyes change over time, and there are a multitude of other eye problems that can be caused by health issues. Our eyes are very fragile tools that can fail for a ton of reasons. I personally prefer my CRTs because the risk threshold is lower, but I'm very tempted by LASIK as my company offers a free procedure.

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Okay anon, ignore the retards, experience here:

1. Plan to take 2 weeks minimum off of work/whatever. Do not schedule a damned thing.

2. Get reliable girlfriend, mom, sister whatever to drive you everywhere, get you food etc. You are entirely dependant on this person once you've had the surgery for a good 3-6 days.

3. I personally got no touch prk. Fully lazer. It's traumatic as fuck for about 40 seconds. Just try to relax.

4. They will give you 4-5 bottles of various things for you to put in your eye, use each one. One will be an anti-biotic DO NOT FORGET IT OR YOU WILL BE IN A FUCKTON OF INFECTED PAIN.

5. Strong sunglasses, get them before your appointment. Seriously consider a large pair over a smaller pair.

6. Cost about $2000 cdn at london eye centre in vancouver, canada. There's a few follow up appointments. AGAIN you need a driver.

7. You need to keep in these "protective" contacts in for 3-5 days at a time for the first week. You know that feeling of sleeping in your contacts? Expect that.

8. DO NOT EXPECT TO WATCH TV OR INTERNET. Download a fuck ton of podcasts (twit.tv, jupiter broadcasting, masters of doom, etc.)

>>51530471
I wear glasses, and my night vision is already bad. I just want to put forth the money and be done with shit eyesight forever(ish) as you describe, but I feel like I'd still have impaired night vision or worsened. I've gone to a specialist twice, and they just say my eyes perfectly healthy but I should use eyedrops, which of course isn't helping my night vision.

I had intralace (iLASIK) done a few years ago.
The procedure is 100% tailored to the users eye and they evaluate you as a candidate beforehand (I had to do 2-3 exams so they could map my eye).

After:
Eyes get dry.
Lights are extra bright at night for a few months.
Have to sleep with eye protection (about a month)

Vision went from -6.5 to 15/20.
No scalpel. Laser to cut and laser to fix.

I highly recommend it. Just do your research first.

>>51533710
>sleeping with protective contacts
what?

>>51533753
It's a PRK thing.

You don't need it if you get a flap.

Burning off layer vs flap.

I did it and it was great. Scariest part is the part you go blind lol then you smell the laser burning your cornea ita gross as fuck

>>51533079

enjoy ur low intelligence m7

>>51525887

>get to file a malpractice suit
>don't have to drive at night

sounds pretty good tbph

>>51533466
>Can't get contacts for nearsightedness
What the fuck are you talking about of course you can, I'm wearing -5 contacts right now.

>>51525822
I know a few people doing research in human vision correction. LASIK isn't permanent and your vision will still degrade over time. The cornea never fully heals after it is cut which can cause problems. A particularly shitty one that comes up often is when one of the nerves is cut, breaking the feedback loop to your brain controlling tear production, making the patient need to constantly use eye drops for the rest of their life. The risk of any single complication is pretty low, but the overall risk of getting some complication is around 1 in 5.

I was told that if someone had bad eyes, then getting regular corrective lenses are the best option.

>>51533972
When are we getting sweet cyborg lens replacements though

Please be careful if your thinking about getting LASIK. It's still a relatively new medical procedure(around 1980s) and we don't know what effects it may have 30-40 years down the road.

>>51534335
>we don't know what effects this thirty year old surgery will have after thirty years

They haven't been doing followups?

>>51525822
have had it done. i see halos in my vision now which sucks.

>>51525822
I've got it and it seems as though there's a lens flare on all bright lights(much like a JJ Abrams movie), using the computer should be fine though.

>>51534335
Only started in the late 80s and not many people got it then. I might be mistaken though. I should've posted it like this

>It's still a relatively new medical procedure(around 1980s) and we don't have a record on its long term effects, if any

>>51536254
Meant to reply to
>>51534376

Intraocular lenses do the same thing but are much safer

>>51534049
See
>>51536574

>>51532694
Fuck off, pussy.

>>51527838
Glasses aren't an issue for pilots unless you're going military. ATP/commercial requires 20/20 with glasses on, private only requires 20/40.

I got it done a year ago this week. No adverse affects, the following few days were a little rough and it took a couple of weeks to kick in 100% but that's all.

>20/20
>would recommend

>>51525822
I did it. Went from -4 to what I have now.

Before I lasered my eyes I couldnt even see faces. Now my left eye is near perfect. My right eye is not that sharp, but I can still read signs across the street so im very happy. With both my eyes open I see good.

I was a troublesome guy during surgery, trying to look away and shit. But it wasnt a problem. You dont feel anything from surgery.

Recovering you need to use lots of eye drops which is quite annoying. I did it 2 months ago and I still need eye drops against dry eyes. But they say it probably goes away (but for a lot of people it doesnt). Personally I rarely experience dry eyes, I only notice it that my mission is a bit blurry when I wake up. But that's it.

If your eyes are bad like mine I'd recommend it. But do pick someone with the best equipment. If your eyes are fairly okay it's not worth the risks. Because there are real risks.

>>51538174
*my vision is a bit blurry when i wake up

>>51533122
50 is old, 60 is pretty old, 70 is very old, 80 is really old, 90+ is ancient

>>51538174
To add. My right eye is worse than my left. But they are both good enough to do everything and I dont notice any difference under normal circumstances. I can read, watch tv and drive with both. It's just with eye tests that I notice the difference.

Oh god that shit's freaky. Just get some glasses and call it a day

Why are so many people attracted to contacts after getting eye surgery.

With glasses you can keep with trends.

Imagine you opening an oven or a barbecue and the heat literally melts your fucking eye balls

>>51533381
If the flap gets dislodged I think you have to have a cornea transplant if you want to see in that eye ever again.

>letting the electromagnetic jew circumcise your eye

>>51525822
>Any risks?

Only real risk is if you develop a cataract later in life, there might not be enough of the cornea left to fix it.
In that case you go blind.

This is only a problem if you have corneas.
But Lasik clinics generally don't tell patients with thin corneas that this could become a problem.

>>51540562
>if you have corneas.

if you have THIN corneas.

My fiance had to have it done a few times before they made any progress and her eyesight wasn't that bad to begin with

>>51525822
I had it. Oldfag here.
'Twas awesome. Fast. Spend the money !
Don't cut corners. Go to the best you have in that zip code vicinity of yours.
Zero probs on computer. I work at one 10 a day, and I feed my 4chan addiction at home after quitting time another few hours a day.
Eyes 20/20. No aches or complaints.
'Bit o' Visine now and then... duh.

I got PRK for the military. Managed to get 20/20, but I've got some pretty bad halos and starburst at night. It's tolerable, but it makes working with anything bright super difficult (displays, lights, even holo sights).