>he refers to GNU+Linux as Linux Reminder that Linux is merely

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>>51521798

>>51521798
But I don't use GNU, just Linux.

>>51521954
Then you're not referring to GNU+Linux as Linux anyway.

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>>51521798
To me GNU is the non significant part

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>>51521798
>remove all Gahnoo packages from Linux
>replace them with BSD or whatever stuff
>Linux is still a fully functional system without the communist freetard cancer
Your move, pinko!

>>51522002
Except you have not done that

>>51521798
I'm terribly sorry for interjecting, but GNU/Linux is, in fact, just Linux, or as I've just now taken to calling it, Just.Linux. Linux apparently does happen to be a whole operating system unto itself and comprises a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Most computer users who run the entire Linux system every day already realize it. Through a peculiar turn of events, I was misled into calling the system "GNU/Linux", and until now, I was unaware that it is basically the Linux system, developed by the Linux project.
There really isn't a GNU/Linux, and I really wasn't using it; it is an extraneous misrepresentation of the system that's being used. Linux is the operating system: the entire system made useful by its included corelibs, shell utilities, and other vital system components. The kernel is already an integral part of the Linux operating system, never confined useless by itself; it functions coherently within the context of the complete Linux operating system. Linux is never used in combination with GNU accessories: the whole system is basically Linux without any GNU added, or Just.Linux. All the so-called "GNU/Linux" distributions are really distributions of Linux.

>>51521798
Linux is a better name than GAYNOO SLASH LEENUCKS

We're lucky that Torvolds' buddy named it "Linux" which is actually a surprisingly nice name for a free project. Not some stupid fucking name like GNUSENSE or GIMP. Just like they're terrible at design, freetards suck at naming.

Linux is a nicer, better name and helps promote Linux better than the shitty freetard equivilent does.

Go away.

>>51522028
You can just call it GNU
GNU is shorter than Linux

>>51522036
GNU is a stupid fucking name.

Look at the other names
>Windows
>Mac

Easy to pronounce, memorable

GNU

Not easy to memorise, not memorable, not useful. Shitty.

>>51522002
>remove linux and replace it with BSD or whatever
You know it works the other way too.

>>51521798
>he listens to that fat toe-jam eating fuckwit RMS
Just kill yourself pedo.

>>51522048
GNU is more clever and descriptive than any of the two. More companies should use recursive acronyms.

>>51522006
I could if I cared enough. Truth is it's completely irrelevant whether some DOS commands and libc are of GNU, BSD, Sun/Oracle, AT&T or even Apple origin.

>>51522048
What about if we rearrange the letters of GNU?
>windows
>mac
>nug

Looks a lot more memorable and marketable, no?

>>51522069
Recursive acronyms are what only actual autists call "fun" or "clever".

>>51522081
Nug for president

>>51521798
What if I don't use GNU, but use Linux? I got a Unix system and installed the Linux kernel on it.

>>51522125
>what os are you using, anon?
>i'm using arch nug

>>51522166
Well then you're obviously not referring to GNU+Linux as Linux since you don't run GNU.
This thread is only about users referring to GNU as Linux.

>>51521798
>he refers to GNU+Linux as Linux
Try and stop me. I'm waiting here on my Linux box :^)
(and yes, I use GNU core utils)

>>51522036
>An operating system makes programs talk to hardware
>Kernel does this
>There are still some people who would rather call it GNU even though GNU is a collection of programs

>>51521798
I use the GNU core utils and more GNU software and refer to it as Linux because rms is a Bernie Sanders supporter. Besides, GNU software is inefficient as shit, link related: https://gist.github.com/pete/665971

>>51522415
>talking to programs without glibc or some other similar library
Good luck with that buddy.

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Why freetard try to hang on Linux's success trying to call it ginu shalsh loonucs, Why can't you accept that without Linux GNU wouldn't even exist now, IBM, Intel, Oracle don't give a fuck about muh political bullshit in software, they care about quality and flexibility, that's why they use and contribute to Linux.

>>51522798
Linux wouldn't exist without GNU.

>>51522809
Yes it would, eventually something would have came along. Gahnoo on the other hand would have been another obscure dead project without the boost from Linux. No wait, it still is apart from the shit they wrote in the 80's.

>>51522937
Sorry but you can't rewrite history. Linux was specifically created with the GNU coreutils in mind.

>>51522961
>[citation needed]
Can you explain why the license of version 0.01 is not GPL?, seems like using GNU tools on top of Linux came afterwards.

>>51522961
And GNU was created with a kernel in mind that never really happened.

>>51523060
>Sadly, a kernel by itself gets you nowhere. To get a working system you need a shell, compilers, a library etc. These are separate parts and may be under a stricter (or even looser) copyright. Most of the tools used with linux are GNU software and are under the GNU copyleft. These tools aren't in the distribution - ask me (or GNU) for more info.
https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/RELNOTES-0.01

His original license restricted commercial usage, but repeated requests to switch to something like the GPL convinced him.

>>51522071
>I could
Nah, that would require a brain.

install gnu

>>51522166
>lagdroid
ishiggy

>>51523195
>He says you can use GNU software with Linux.
>Somehow you have to rename Linux just becasue you used some external tools.

>>51522415
>>An operating system makes programs talk to hardware
>glibc is an operating system
anon...

>>51522937
>Linux on the other hand would have been another obscure dead project without the boost from GNU.

>>51523265
>To get a working [operating] system you need [GNU coreutils].
That's why the whole system is called GNU/Linux.

>>51523265
>some external tools
>some
>compiler
without gnu, linux is just a bunch of text files

>>51523195
>https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/RELNOTES-0.01
>READ THIS THROUGH, THEN READ INSTALL-0.11, AND IF YOU ARE SURE YOU KNOW
WHAT YOU ARE DOING, CONTINUE. OTHERWISE, PANIC. OR WRITE ME FOR
EXPLANATIONS. OR DO ANYTHING BUT INSTALL LINUX - IT'S VERY SIMPLE, BUT
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING YOU'LL PROBABLY BE SORRY. I'D
RATHER ANSWER A FEW UNNECESSARY MAILS THAN GET MAIL SAYING "YOU KILLED
MY HARDDISK, BASTARD. I'M GOING TO FIND YOU, AND YOU'LL BE SORRY WHEN I
DO".
linux didn't change

>>51523291
Turning it around doesn't make it right, you know. No matter how frustrated you're feeling right now.

>>51523246
>freetard running out of arguments: the post

>>51523333
No what he said is literally true. GNU would be nothing without linux and vice versa. I don't know why this is so hard to understand.

Linux is not an operating system unto itself

>>51523342
>what is Minix

>>51523370
>what is Windows

>>51523370
A source of inspiration, but that's about it.

>>51523333
found the android user

If GNU is so unimportant than why does virtually every distribution ship with GNU

>>51523399
>if I trow enough ad hominems in the discussion I might win
Gnutards are like the SJW of the *nix world.

>>51523314
>Implying you can't use Intel C compiler

>>51523452
Why do people struggle with this so much?

Yes, if you go out of your way to remove all GNU components, then you are not using GNU/Linux. It works the other way too though. You can remove linux and use kFreeBSD and in that cause you would not be using GNU/Linux. The fact is that most distros ship GNU/Linux.

>>51523452
but anon, that's true; official release from kernel.org can't be built with anything except gcc; go ahead, try it: whatever icc version you want and whatever clang you want

>>51523470
And most dristros ship with Xorg so why don't you get so vocal about people not saying GNU/Xorg/Linux?

>>51523418
>muh lagdroid is linux, dammit!

>>51523525
Because you can have a functioning operating system without X.

>>51523525
you don't need xorg to compile the kernel; you need gnu

>>51523538
Yeah because all i do is compile the kernel all day.
>>51523533
>functioning operating system
If you mean a system that let's me get the job done then no, because i need drivers to make my hardware work, i need a display server to use software with GUI, i need a sound system to be able to listem to music, and so on.
So again why i shouldn't call the system GNU/Nvidia/Xorg/Pulseaudio?

>>51523649
>If you mean a system that let's me get the job
No you idiot. I mean a OS that works at all.

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>>51521798

>>51523672
Then you don't need anything more than the kernel, everything else is based on the user needs.

>>51523796
>still being retarded
A kernel by itself cannot do anything at all and is not a functioning operating system.

>>51523796
This:
>>51523830
An operating system is software that allows the user to operate the system.

>>51523952
That's my point. You can't operate the system with just the kernel.

I'm glad /g/ finally settled this.

GNU/Linux it is.
GNU+Linux and
GNU plus Linux
or just
GNU
are also acceptable.

>>51524031
No it's GNU/SystemD/X/Mozilla/Gnome/Steam/Linux, since Linux is not a full operating system without these components.

>>51524064
>using GNOME

>>51521954
unless you're talking about android or another embedded linux, you most probably use gnu as well

>>51524893
>Referring to Linux as GNU+Linux
Reminder that Linux can be used with many userlands other than Gahnoo. You don't see the BusyBox guys running around and screaming "ITS BUSYBUCKS PLUS LOONICKS"

>>51525228
Reminder that GNU can be used with other kernels besides Linux.
https://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/

arguing over nomenclature is dumb and makes you look dumb.

>>51523649
>compile the kernel
some has to do that; they can't without gnu

>>51525228
>Linux can be used with many userlands other than Gahnoo
>muh lagdroid

>>51524064
only gnu is absolutely required, the rest are cruft

>>51521798
Betterman

>>51525228
No.
I refer to GNU/Linux as GNU/Linux.
Linux is Linux.
GNU is GNU.
GNU plus Linux is GNU plus Linux.

no i use GNU/Xorg/Systemd/udev/<addmoresoftwareforashittylookinglongnamehere>/Linux

seriously, get real GNUfags

>>51522175
What do you call a GNU enthusiast?

A nugger

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>>51524031
>or just
>GNU
>are also acceptable.