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Wat no ipfs thread? >What is IPFS? It's basically

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Wat no ipfs thread?

>What is IPFS?
It's basically BitTorrent on steroids.

>why would one use it
* Distributed, decentralized filesharing (for now - ipfs is merely the communication protocol, and additional applications can exist on top of it).
* You can have a mutable address (i.e. always points to the latest version of a site), or a static address (points to a specific file). Yes, you can host sites over IPFS.
* Peers are found fast for new downloads. You don't need to wait that much to start a download.
* You can watch your animu while it downloads, I watched few episodes that way and it didn't even buffer.

>how to upload a single file
$ ipfs add ./$file
Access it at localhost:8080/ipfs/$outputted-hash
>how to upload a dir
$ ipfs add -r ./$dir
Access it at localhost:8080/ipfs/$last-outputted-hash
>how to make the thing mutable
$ ipfs name publish ./$file-or-dir-hash
Access it at localhost:8080/ipns/$output-hash-aka-peerid (it's ipNs not ipFs)
To update, publish another hash and it will be available at the same IPNS address.

>gateways (how to access IPFS if you don't have it installed)
https://gateway.ipfs.io/

>I2P and Tor support coming soon™. We need that thing anonymous so pls halp.
https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/1118
https://github.com/ipfs/notes/issues/37
https://github.com/jbenet/go-multiaddr-net/issues/7

Hourly reminder to pin files that you care about.
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This meme again?
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>>51518223
>meme
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find ~/.ipfs/config -type f -exec sed -i 's/127.0.0.1/0.0.0.0/g' {} \;



Fresh Centos 7 x64 VM. When attempting to view the web interface from other devices on the LAN, I get this. Stuck at 0 connections. Information never loads.

If the connection is viewed from the actual VM, it shows a bunch of connections and IPFS links work. But remote machines aren't able to take advantage of the website.

I'd like to be able to throw this on a headless machine and have it available 24/7 on my ESXi server.

Any ideas?
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>>51518259
The webui only works locally, but an Anon a thread or two ago had a solution of using ssh to forward the port directly. It seemed to work.
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>>51518280
ssh server -L8080:localhost:8080 -L5001:localhost:5001

no need to change the ipfs config file this way either, this method is more secure
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>>51518259
>>51518280

See https://rbt.asia/g/thread/S51477984#p51484254
https://rbt.asia/g/thread/S51477984#p51484373

Serving the webui remotely should be a feature, though. Someone should file an issue on github.
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>>51518304
note: ipfs access will work even if you bind to a different local port, but this will break the webui, as it expects the port that was set in the config
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so how do i find content i want to download?
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>>51518382
Same way you find other websites.
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>>51518404
google?
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>>51518382
someone here's put together a list of some stuff we've found/added
http://127.0.0.1:8080/ipns/gindex.dynu.com/

this is by no means exaustive
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>>51518411
Yes. Or by being linked from another page. The only difference is that Google doesn't follow IPFS paths, so you'll just find things linked to via a http gateway.

Though, I imagine you could patch YaCy to index IPFS links properly.
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>>51518130
So, you are basically trying to setup a peer-to-peer internet or what?
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>>51518438
Exactly
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>>51518438
pretty much
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>>51518426
127.0.0.1?
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>>51518130
what.are the advantages over using something like freenet or i2p
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>>51518480
yea, the way to access ipfs right now is via a local gateway (that is, you run the ipfs program on your computer, and it exposes ipfs via a built in http server)

this is only because current web browsers don't support ipfs directly

there are public gateways you can use if you don't have ipfs installed, for example;
http://ipfs.io/ipns/gindex.dynu.com/
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this is useless, without encryption everyone can see what you are pirating or sharing, not gonna touch it
>tor
almost all nodes are owned by nsa
>i2p
other peers have to to use it too

also, there are old as fuck projects, tor, i2p, freenet, and they are small networks used by neckbeards, all of these have ancryption, you think you will out grow them spamming on /g/? lel
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>>51518503
I see, thank you for that. I'll go ahead an install and play around with it!
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test
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>>51518500
>>51518511
this is intended as an alternative to http, not i2p/tor

unless you're also claiming http is useless
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>>51518503
>the first 2 movies featured are the DKR and big buck bunny
of course
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>>51518530
it is, we should all use some different protocol something newer and more modern
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>>51518500
It's not anonymous and you don't have to store someone else's cp to be allowed to use it, so the likelihood of this being adopted by the industry is much higher (and they have an incentive to do so, because it reduces the load on their severs). It's also a drop-in replacement for HTTP so it can be adopted transparently and incrementally.
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>>51518530
>peer to peer html files
who the fuck seeds web pages? are you retarded? this was created to share files with html interface
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>>51518130
Okay, literally what is better about that than BT for file sharing?

Mutable addresses... and that's it? What's the actual advantage here?
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>>51518553
It's not for file sharing.
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>>51518550
watch the video
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmSd1buim52M
tQP1SH2XhN7FC8c1K
dFrFKBNmgdUKFdss8/Stanford%20Seminar%20-%20Juan%20Benet%20of%20Protocol%20Labs.webm

>>51518539
yes, like ipfs
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>>51518530
freenet is a working peer-to-peer html replacement with full encryption, but no one cares
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>>51518553
it BTFO's apache servers
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>>51518559
> It's basically BitTorrent on steroids.
How the fuck can a non file sharing thing be BT on steroids?
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>>51518577
that quote is misleading
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>>51518574
>over 1 hour
nah, i dont have a time for this
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>>51518576
Uh, but most are using nginx or lighttpd or whatever.

Or more recently, distributed cloud deployments, maybe on Amazon's or someone else's cloud.

Is this like a thing for like when you have a community that wants to share porn on a website, and communally hosts it - like, e-hentai style websites of sorts?

Where is the git-like revision / branch control, then? Or is there an original sauce tied to an original author / owner person?
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>>51518553
content addressing and deduplication of effort

1. any particular file always has the same address, regardless of if it's in a folder with other files, or named differently, or uploaded by multiple people
2. there is only one, interplanetary, swarm of peers

this means you can download a particular file from anyone who has the data for it, no exceptions

with bittorrent every torrent has a unique swarm, even if it contains identical files, so if i pick up a torrent with say, a ubuntu iso in it, i can only download it from the peers on that torrent, despite that iso likely existing in other torrents as well
with ipfs i can download the iso from *anyone* who has it, regardless of where they got it from
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this is like a crowdsourced content distribution botnet
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>>51518605
fun fact: creator of this software have list o all IPs that ever connected to ipfs
fun fact: creator can see all content that is shared over ipfs and link to specific IP
fun fact: creator is NSA employee
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>>51518605
The git-like hash tree is used to build directories of files and even to divide files themselves into smaller blocks, which is what gives the network deduplication (and some degree of versioning).
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>>51518130
how do I use this with my neocities?
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>>51518633
k

It's not like we're sharing trrist plans.
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>>51518632
>>>/g/ipfs/
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>>51518628
ps. this isn't the only advantage, either
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>>51518653
if you want to know ask OP
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>>51518663
I can't even parse this sentence.
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>>51518675
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>>51518628
That seems fairly advantageous in some ways.

> if i pick up a torrent with say, a ubuntu iso in it, i can only download it from the peers on that torrent, despite that iso likely existing in other torrents as well
No, this only happens if they set the torrent to private or some shit like that. Otherwise DHT and PEX is consulted and you get essentially all the peers the network can provide you with.
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>>51518130
How do I find animus on here?
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So can I use this with windows or through a VM?
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>>51518628
what if two peers have different version on the same link?
>donwload link, seed
>file changed
>old peers still seed old file
other scenario
>upload file
>multiple peers
>original owner deletes file
can someone else update this file?
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>>51518857
stick w/ either the /dpt/, /dtg/, or /mbg/ when it's around.
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>>51518857
just use nyaa or google
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>>51518851
>No, this only happens if they set the torrent to private or some shit like that. Otherwise DHT and PEX is consulted and you get essentially all the peers the network can provide you with.
yes, you can use DHT to find anyone with /that particular torrent/, but what i'm saying is that not everyone with that iso may be sharing it using the same torrent

like, if i went and got the same ubuntu iso and made a new torrent containing it, there would be only me on the torrent, i would not be available as a peer to other torrents containing this file

>>51518901
a modified file is the same as a new file
in ipfs, there is no "original uploader", if the first person to put a particular file on ipfs stops seeding it, it affects nothing as long as someone else is seeding it, the address stays the same
updates are done by using ipns, which is a signed link to an ipfs address, only the owner of the key that made the ipns link can update it
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>>51518857
wrong board
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>>51518901
>different version on the same link?
Then you have found a collision in SHA2 and can collect your Turing award the next weekday.
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>>51518959
you are stupid, is owner update file, link to new file is the same (stated by >>51518628) its very easy to have multiple version in the same link, sha doesnt have anything to that
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>>51518979
No, >>51518628 implies that the link to the updated file *isn't* the same. That's the whole point of content addressing.
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>>51518996
ok, i read it wrong
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>>51518996
yea, a file update means a new ipfs address by design

you use ipns to track file updates

for example, you have file1_revision1, and an ipns address which links to the ipfs address of file1_revision1
then you modifiy that file which produces file1_revision2 (may be the same filename, but that doesn't matter)
this file now has a different ipfs address, because it's a different file (by content)
so now you update the ipns address to point to the ipfs address of the new file
the ipns address stays the same, this is how you address changing content
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>good ideas like this can't take place in mainland europe because the download/upload ratio is like 10
Is it much asking for 10/10?
Hell, i'll even take 8/8
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>>51519041
1/1?
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>>51519041
i'm on ~11/0.8
even with shit internet you can still take advantage of ipfs' ability to share content throughout a LAN
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>>51519063
10 mbps download 10 mbps upload
>>51519104
>i'm on ~11/0.8
Holy fucking shit it's literally exactly what i have.
What country and ISP?
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>>51519124
>What country and ISP?
ausfailia and TPG
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I'm still waiting for them to fix the Windows absolute path bug. It's been 22 days since a fix was proposed.
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so how exactly do I access the file I just shared?
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>>51519243
when you add something, you will get an ipfs address (hash) for each item

if it's a single file, you get one hash, for a folder of files you get a hash for each file/folder, you likely want to share the last hash, which is the topmost folder (containing everything else)

to test accessibility from the public gateway, simply visit;
http://ipfs.io/ipfs/<the hash>
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uploaded some hentai, how do i get it to the public?
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>>51519270
share the hash so people know where to find it
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>>51518605
Think of it like this: in current "cloud computing" parlance, there is no "cloud". It's just one server or a load-balanced array of servers serving clients individually. With a distributed and deduplicated filesystem like this one, there is indeed a cloud of peers sharing trees of blocks of files. Obviously this is torrent like, but the bittorrent protocol was never designed around filesystem hierarchies and mutable merkle graph nodes. It's augmented torrents.

>Where is the git-like revision
Currently:
ipfs name publish
ipfs name resolve
The authors say there will be developments on this in the near future.

>Is this like a thing for like when you have a community that wants to share porn on a website, and communally hosts it - like, e-hentai style websites of sorts?
That's a suitable use case, yes.

>>51519270
Share the hash of the directory you added (the add command reports it to you, and so does the web control panel), or share all the hashes of all the files.
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>>51518954
>like, if i went and got the same ubuntu iso and made a new torrent containing it, there would be only me on the torrent, i would not be available as a peer to other torrents containing this file
Ah. I see. Good point. Yea, that was retarded on BT, and most cloud infrastructures now address blocks rather than files or folders (groups of files).

Cool that they block-layer now. Maybe this thing has a great future ahead of it.
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>>51519286
comparing to torrents, ipfs is like one gigantic torrent containing absolutely everything
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>>51519286
> Think of it like this
Good point.

> The authors say there will be developments on this in the near future.
That will be an obstacle until it is done, I imagine.

> That's a suitable use case, yes.
I'm sure you can do more with it, but this tool surely needs something only it can do, or it probably won't succeed? This seems like something, if someone can make it work right.

Though again, I wonder how branches and revisions and so on will be handled, or a central index of sorts (like github / e-hentai / whatever).
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>>51519171
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>>51519283
>>51519286
i can't post the link guys, 4chan keeps saying it's spam
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>>51519346
split it up like you see others doing

for example; take
Qm?????????????????

and put new lines once or twice;
Qm?????
??????
??????

better than adding spaces as selecting this and pasting it into a url bar usually results in a single/functional line
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>>51519373
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmQm
c1Bx5EjC4qG8LgiH66AJK
NjfcA5ui4wSQ4Ffatbamt

testing
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>>51519373
I'm guessing the main reason they are filtered is because they look like Bitcoin addresses, right? I can't see any other reason for disallowing hashes.
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>>51519388
like magic
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>>51519394
perhaps, considering they always start in Qm and their length is encoded, it'd be simple for 4chan to make an exception
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>>51519402
so how do i go about mirroring someones content to save it to my local disk and help keep it alive for others to dl?

ipfs pin hash_of_thing_i_want_to_save?
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>>51519418
ipfs pin add <hash>
yes, this downloads the blocks and puts them in your block cache, like "get" or downloading them, but also "pins" it, which simply excludes the blocks from garbage collection (that is, prevents them from being automatically cleaned out of the cache once the cache is full)
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>>51519418
Yes. Some people tell you to also use the "-r" flag to make it recursive, but that's the default anyway.
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>>51519438
>>51519434
Oh, right: pin add. Always forget that one.
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>>51519434
and do I use the fuse mounting to access the files easily?
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>>51519388
>2 hours
Step yo damn upload game up.
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>>51519467
straya m8 what can i do?

i have TBs full of shit i'd love to put up, but i'll never be able to.
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>>51519453
you can
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>>51519497
i mean, is fuse the only way to access files i've pinned without knowing their hashes?
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So, can people if not share at least get the files from the net without stressing a central server without installing it?
ipfs.io/ipns/gindex.dynu.com/
For example here when i download a file am i contacting multiple sources or using the server the way i usually do?
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>>51519518
you can view a list of pinned items from the webui

http://localhost:5001/ipfs/QmR9MzChjp
1MdFWik7NjEjqKQMz
VmBkdK3dz14A6B5Cupm/#/files/pinned
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>>51519518
You still have to know the hash to cd into the correct directory under the /ipfs mount point, but you can run
$ ipfs pin ls
to see the list of pinned hashes. Or something like
$ ipfs pin ls | cut -f1 -d' ' | ipfs ls 
to get an idea of what files lie behind them (only useful if they are in a directory, so that they have a file name).
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>>51519521
in that case you're asking "ipfs.io" to retreive the files for you, as per how http usually works

the only way to access ipfs properly is to run the ipfs daemon, for now
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>>51519521
You're contacting multiple sources, namely everyone who has the file in their cache (some of which has opted to keep it there indefinitely).
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>>51519553
not if he's using the ipfs.io gateway
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>>51519560
True, I didn't spot that.
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Some standard Mogudan to test if it's working:
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXon7GMiHQCCduhnTywxEFVeqzZwjpsFtbETvecSS8onv
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>>51519307
Does that mean that your PC, or a server somewhere, has a full copy of the network's file list? Is it distributed?
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best way to run the daemon as a background task? why doesn't it go to background instantly?
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>>51519642
> best way to run the daemon as a background task?
Create a systemd service file, or "bg" it or something.
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Being a replacement to HTTP, could someone actually create a dynamic website with it, backed with a SQL database as well as encryption?
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>>51519642
the arch package ships with systemd service files, so it's just;
systemctl --user enable ipfs
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>>51519641
Only those who have the file has the file "list". When you request a file, you send out the hash to your peers and they pass it on to their peers, and so on. Then the nodes that know what file that corresponds to respond to you and start a transfer.

It's the same as with magnet links in Bittorrent.
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>>51519665
right now it's largely only good for static content/websites

encryption is largely not a concern, unlike with http, MITM attacks are impossible on IPFS, because the addresses are hashes of the content, meaning you can verify independantly if information you receive is what you asked for
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>>51519671
>arch package
Are you talking about go-ipfs or go-ipfs-git? I have the latter and I had to download the service file manually.
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>>51519584
Seems like I needed to forward 4001. Probably works now.
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>>51519706
the former has service files
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>>51519709
It worked before too, at least for me. If your router has upnp enabled you don't have to open any ports.
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>>51519550
>>51519560
But with that gateway i can access any file as long as i know the hash right?
I'll have to use the frontend and i will be bottlenecked hard but it could be fun
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>>51519654
>>51519671
anything for non meme distros?
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>>51519730
yes, you can access anything on ipfs using the gateway with just the hash
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>>51519713
Oh, looks like there is an official package in the repositories now. I tried the AUR version of go-ipfs earlier I can't recall any service file. Nice!
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>>51518130
Wtf is bittorrent on steroids? I already get my max of 20MB/s on most
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>>51519752
that's so far beside the point i don't know where to begin
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>>51519728
Thanks - seemed like BW used was a little low, but I guess nobody pinned the whole folder yet.

My router intentionally does not have upnp enabled.

>>51519737
Systemd is standard, whatever you are using is meme... but just write a file for whatever init you're using?
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>>51519730
You get your own local gateway if you install it yourself, meaning you won't be bottlenecked. Plus it's more considerate towards the developers who I assume pay for gateway.ipfs.io.
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>>51519752
>he can't read
Basically a giant network where everyone can share any file torrent style, only it can be done with any file.
imagine the internet was a giant torrent and you can download parts of it as you like
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>>51519763
yea, please only use ipfs.io's gateway for testing, not mass downloads
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>>51519752
>>51519757
I think we would get rid of most of the shitposting if we just rephrased that part in the next thread.
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>>51519776
yea, it seems a few people read the first 3 lines in OP and then make a post

>oh, bittorrent? i use that!
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>>51519763
>>51519772
At work right now, just wanted to see what this is about before i do anything.
Also kinda shit at configuring things manually and really depends how much i have to tamper with stuff to get it working.
Also i have shit upload, is there a way to easily toggle the upload so that i can "seed" only when i can?
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>>51519772
You can use this Firefox addon to rewrite URLs automatically to point to your local gateway: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ipfs-gateway-redirect/
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>>51519813
only required steps are;
1. obtain ipfs program
2. run "ipfs init" (first time only, generates unique node-specific information)
3. run "ipfs daemon" (or enable the service if available instead)
4. browse ipfs via "http://localhost:8080/ipfs/<hash>" (or /ipns/ if it's an ipns hash)
5. ???
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>>51519813
That's alright. Testing it out is what it's there for after all.

I don't think there's any bandwidth limits or anything similar at the moment, sadly.
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Are there any ipfs file sharing general threads on some boards here?
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is it possible to upload multiple files on a single link? example: uploading unpacked game files, with torrents i can seed and play at the same time without having separate copy
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>>51519776
Switch it to something like this:

>What is IPFS?
IPFS is a distributed, fully decentralized, versioned, internet-wide filesystem.
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Looks cool. Will read some later.
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how do I un share something in ipfs?
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>>51520011
nice dubs
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>>51520011
I think it's "pin rm", followed by "repo gc". That only means you will no longer share it of course, if someone else does it's clearly still out there.
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>>51519972
Yes. Did you see the links from before in the thread? They were mostly folders containing multiple files.
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>>51520090
yeah but all files in these directories have different links, can i download all files from folders using a single link?
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>>51520116
That hash *is* the link to download them all with.

Just "ipfs get" it.
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>>51520126
>>51520126 (You)
For stupid:
ipfs get -o "Mogudan Nakayoshi" QmXon7GMiHQCCduhnTywxEFVeqzZwjpsFtbETvecSS8onv
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>>51518633
You do realise that this applies to every website?
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>>51520299
> You do realise that this applies to every website?
> fun fact: creator can see all content that is shared over ipfs and link to specific IP
No, not really.
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>>51518628
>>51518954
So it's basically a modern version of eMule, right?
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>>51520313
>server owners can't see all the IPs that downloaded a specific file on his server
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>>51520438
Content creator / IP holder vs. server owner?
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>>51520455
How would he be able to tie content to IPs? point it out in the source code please.
Also IP means shit, a change of IP is literally 5 minutes and 1 button away for 90% of the people.
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>>51520455
>IP holder
Fuck off with your newspeak.
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How is this different to previous software, like Tahoe-LAFS?
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>>51520505
IP = Intellectual Property, not Internet Protocol.

>>51520510
Term is older than the internet, senpai.
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>>51520535
>Term is older than the internet, senpai.
So what? You didn't hear 15 year old on /v/ spout that shit like it meant something just 5 years ago.
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>>51520573
I don't really care what /v/ does, and I'm not sure why you're proposing them to be relevant here.

Congratulations for catching up with a term that has been used since 1800 or something, though.
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>>51520535
When i meant
>IP means shit
I was referring to your original post
>fun fact: creator of this software have list o all IPs that ever connected to ipfs

Even if he could see them, and you didn't prove he can yet, it would be meaningless
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>>51520618
Completely brainwashed.
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sadly it isn't anonymouse?
and there are a lot of c p , you know like on free3net, i2p?
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>>51520665
we don't want c.p u fucking pedo

jesus fucking christ no every file sharing tool on the internet is about pedo bullshit. fuck off.
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well this kills my internet. i give up. soz lads.

i hope it works like bit torrent and many people each got a piece so they can assemble the full file themselves.
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Reminder: ipfs.io/ipns/gindex.dynu.com/ has a list of ipfs links.

>>51520665
Haven't seen CP on it yet, most likely because it's not inherently anonymous. You can use anonet, i2p or tor on top of it if you want anonymity though.

>>51518576
Content-addressable, mutable addresses, single-swarm, multihashes, designed to work with other technologies by acting as a thin layer, caching AND pinning instead of just pinning, DNS support, in talks to get native support from a major browser vendor, (soon) stream upload support.
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>>51520116
ipfs get -r <folder hash>
-r will recursively download everything.
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>>51519944
That would be this thread.
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>>51520632
>and you didn't prove he can yet
theres nothing to prove, its how this network work, you think you can just run this app and it will find other peers using magic? it connects to predefined IPs (OP and his NSA friends), take all active peers and then connect to them
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>>51519737
sudo service ipfs-daemon start
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>>51519518
ipfs pin ls gives a list of all your pinned files.
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>>51521302
Bitcoin must scare the shit out of you then.
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>>51521302
What is the point of your posting?
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>>51521302
>what is dht
I guess torrents connect to predefined IPs too. And i2p, and freenet, and gnunet.

Oh wait.
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>>51521302
What value would "this IP address connected to the bootstrap node in order to get a list of peers" have to the NSA?
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>>51521340
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrapping_node
educate yourself before posting stupid shit

>>51521358
ask nsa
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>>51521377
>ask nsa
What a cop-out.
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>>51521377
>I have literally no idea what I'm talking about
Nice to know, anon-kun :3
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>>51521390
dude, im not working for them, i dont know this, but i know that if they can get somewhere to spy harder on you they will, this project looks perfect for them, and it isnt encrypted, just perfect
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>>51521377
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrapping_node
That's like 100% literally exactly what they guy you're responding to said.
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>>51521413
>literally entirely encrypted
>it isn't encrypted
LMAO
>someone whom you don't even connect to is going to mitm your traffic I swear
L M A O
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>>51521413
Oh yes the NSA has real interest in rolling out obscure distributed filesharing protocols with incomplete implementations. What a valuable surveillance asset.
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>>51521424
ipfs is not encrypted, read OP you retard
>someone whom you don't even connect to is going to mitm your traffic I swear
people were saying this about tor too, now try to download something without getting v8
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>>51520727
>i hope it works like bit torrent and many people each got a piece so they can assemble the full file themselves.
it does indeed
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>>51521441
>read OP you retard
Not anywhere does OP make any mention of encryption or lack thereof.

Are you the same guy who posted a bunch of inane shitposts in the last thread?
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>>51519844
Thanks for this. Makes stuff so much easier.
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so wait, what is being sperged about in this thread?

lack of onion/garlic routing?

wouldn't that be more up gnunet's alley?
hell even taholafs+i2p does the same thing

ipfs is about decentralizing hosting for literal websites, not about creating a darknet...
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>>51521441
>now try to download something without getting v8
The usual evidence-free bollocks I presume.
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>>51521463
if you want encryption use i2p or tor, this was confirmed in previous threads by OP

>>51521503
you sounds like a nsa shill, please leave
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>>51521531
>you sounds like a nsa shill, please leave
You sound like a virulent shitposter intent on destroying any novel protocols. Stick to web dev generals.

Again, where is the evidence of people being v& through no fault of their own when using Tor?
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>>51521494
This. You can also use i2p and ipfs together if you want anonymity for ipfs. The point of ipfs is to provide a fully decentralized, distributed network.

But that's not what's being sperged about itt. Some NSA shill is trying to FUD about ipfs.
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>>51521531
Even if that was the case (which it isn't; I've followed every single thread), why would you think the OP of any thread was a reliable source?

Besides, you can read the source code yourself, and find out the truth. Start here: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/tree/master/p2p/net
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i still can't think of a use case where ipfs would be useful to me desu
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>>51521671
Letting the network host your content instead of relying on a centralized host, a domain provider, and ads to keep it running; sharing files torrent-style in a transparent, browsable format that gets autoseeded if someone else uploads the same content independently; publishing opinions without fear of censorship, etc.
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>>51521622
i just searched every file for word 'ssl' and 0 matches, can you tell me what encryption does this use?
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>>51521712
Search for x509.
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>>51521733
nothing
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>>51521697
yeah but can any of this be done dynamically?

I thought it was just for static assets...
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>>51521778
ipfs name publish
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>>51521761
You should have searched harder. Here it is: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/p2p/crypto/rsa.go

Note also that it uses crypto/rsa and crypto/x509 which are go built-ins, so don't give me any shit about "home-rolled encryption".
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>>51521697
>fear of censorship
they cant censor things, but id you are offensive for them youll get v&
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>>51521799
https://github.com/ipfs/specs/issues/29
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>>51521778
You can have dynamic names which point to the latest version of some content. For dynamic sites (i.e. those that call back to some usually centralized authority), you need to use a smart contract framework if you want it to be decentralized, or you can do the regular requests to a centralized server (e.g. ipfs.pics). Sites can contain any manner of clientside scripts, though. The falcon guide on ipfs is an example of that.
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>>51521829
How convenient you had that ready when just a minute ago you were convinced they had no encryption at all.

But yes, they have their own encryption protocol (obviously). The encryption implementations they use are standard, though.
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>>51521803
Can't get v& if they can't tell you're the original uploader. They can't tell you're the original uploader because of cache + pin (i.e. decentralized distributed). After all, unless you're connected to every single node in the network (impossible), you can't tell if a node is serving your content or someone else's, and because of cache, you can't tell if the content is served from cache or from pin, and then you can't tell if the content was cached willingly or not.

With all that said, i2p, tor, anonet over ipfs kills the last weakness in the security model.
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>>51521851
i'm not the same guy you were talking to, this is why i posted this (>>51521494)

it just so happened that both you two are wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>51521876
Oh, okay. My mistake. I'm getting real tired of the FUD, is all.
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>>51521831
>>51521863
>>51521797
>>51521697

thanks for the reponses guys


how would ipfs compare/synergize with this? https://webtorrent.io/

i've been following webtorrent for a pretty long time, think it's pretty neat.

I guess my only usecase would be to use it as a CDN which is why I see webtorrent as superior...?


I guess immutability is ipfs killer feature?
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>>51521996
webtorrent is just torrents with mutable addressing. It uses isolated swarms, no real content addressing, requires webrtc (botnet), etc.
ipfs is strictly superior as a CDN to webtorrent. Not that webtorrent is bad, it's just strictly inferior.
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>>51522054
>requires webrtc (botnet)

don't talk shit about free software m8

however, please explain:
>It uses isolated swarms, no real content addressing
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>>51521996
>I guess immutability is ipfs killer feature?
I would say so, yes.

I suppose that a CDN could also benefit from knowing that a file will never change, though.
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>>51518318
>Serving the webui remotely should be a feature

No it shouldn't. VPN or GTFO. ssh port forward is acceptable.
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>>51522104
ipfs helps caching greatly, because any ipfs content is gauranteed never to change (it can't), and you know exactly what changes when using ipns
there's no need for cache 'expiry' information, nor periodic server hits to check for content changes, except for a lightweight "did the ipns link change"
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>>51522095
>It uses isolated swarms
means that the set of nodes which can respond to a request depends on the site. With ipfs, every node can respond to every request at least in the neighbor-to-neighbor sense.
>no real content addressing
Means that if two people upload identical content, seeds of one swarm won't acts as seeds of the other swarm. Supposedly the issue is merely with filenames, though.
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Why aren't you people using the fucking [ code][/code] tags?
FUCK.
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>>51523296
basically all code/commands i can see are in code tags, m8y
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>>51519388
>>51523413
...
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>>51523474
the spam filter doesn't completely ignore code tags
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I first saw the thread like a week ago, you guys advertised it as "torrent on steroids" and so I assumed it's just another meme. I watched the presentation video from Stanford yesterday and the more I think about it, the larger my excitement grows. It's fucking brilliant, and with the level of adoption it's getting already, it might replace http for good. The only real impediment is the government I guess since they'd lose control of the Internet. Fuck, this is like the coolest thing I've ever seen.
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>>51518857
Theres an animu tracker someone made. Not too many animes though. Upload your own and send him the hash to help out.

/ipns/QmUqBf56JeGUvuf2SiJNJahAqaVhFSHS6r9gYk5FbS4TAn
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>>51523629
The spam filter literally doesn't care whether the text is in code tags or not, in fact.
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>>51524027
Contriboot to help it get big. There's lots to do, from shilling it to making content to playing with the various smart contract frameworks and building a trivial localhost http server that dispatches to the right tool to serve fully decentralized and distributed dynamic content.
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Does it automatically pin things you hash yourself?
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>>51524904
Anything you ipfs add is automatically pinned.
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>>51524944
Okay. Thanks m8
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Is it possible to remove a file you've uploaded?
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Someone should make a torrent compatibility layer so we could pull files from existing torrents' peers
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>>51524956
Only if no-one else is seeding it, meaning 1- nobody visited the file, or anyone who did cleared their cache 2- nobody has it pinned. In that case, if you unpin the file, it's no longer reachable on the network.
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>>51524956
You've uploaded what where?

But generally speaking, no? If someone "downloaded" it or it otherwise got distributed, he's now also now uploading it.

PS: This is working with chunks of files though, not entire files, if I understand it correctly.
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>>51524963
>someone should make a win32 compatibility layer so we could run programs from existing windows10 installs
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>>51524991
ok, kid
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Will published mounts gain writeability at some point?

Anyway, I'm considering writing mounting support for Plan 9.
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>>51524976
If you've shared the hash with anyone you also have to repo gc it. Otherwise they might download it between you unpinning it and the daemon triggering an automatic garbage collect, since you're still seeding it.
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>>51524956
if you mean from your computer, yes
if you mean from the network, no (except if nobody else has it in their cache, which you have no control over)

>>51525072
>Will published mounts gain writeability at some point?
probably at some point the ipns mount will be writable, since ipns allows for mutability
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>>51518130
Ok - So just to wrap my head around this, imma ask some stupid ass questions

What does making it mutable do?
How trackable is it?
How does "seeding" it work? Is there anything to manage your bandwidth on it?
Wheres some more sites to try it

Do they have an IPFS for retards site? how to basically get started after you download it.. i can figure it out, but my non neet friends that i wanna try it with will have an issue (They're not tech illeterate, just not as autistic as i)

What happens if i upload a file, my friend downloads it, he stops sharing it and so do i?

I was thinking about bittorrent for downloading on this site i'm working on, but would it be more resource effective to run IPFS and transmit that way (yeah i know nobody has it, but eventually someone's gonna make it normie friendly and when they do... i wanna be there.

can you have human readable paths, or is it all hashes?

I think thats it for now... im going to try downloading it and dicking around @ >>51518426 and seeing what i come up with

How can you add shit to that site anyway?
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>>51527582
>What does making it mutable do?
It signs the content with your private key.
>How trackable is it?
Mutable versions are extremely easy to track and update almost instantly. Whether or not you have a file is trivial to track since there is no anonymity built-in; use tor/i2p/anonet for that. Finding who the original uploader is is impossible in expectation because it's a pull medium, and hashes have ridiculously low collision rate - which means that you can't just keep guessing random hashes until you find a file (but you can download a file and hash it, then wait for someone to be serving it on the network, but you can't know for sure that the first hit is indeed the uploader without a 100% connectivity rate and a very high probing frequency).
>How does "seeding" it work?
If you access content, it is saved in your cache (10GB by default). When 90% (by default) of your cache is used, garbage collection is run to free up some of the cache. In the meantime, you're seeding the content. Additionally, you can become a semi-permanent seed for some content by pinning it. There is no way to manage bandwidth I think, but check ipfs config --help to verify.
>Wheres some more sites to try it
ipfs.io/ipns/gindex.dynu.com has a list of all the content we know about so far (i.e. either the content is available through following a link on that page, or it is already on that page). You can look for more content on your own by using google wtih site:<some-portal> but that only works if a portal has cached the content at some point.
>Do they have an IPFS for retards site?
The instructions on the site should be straightforward (ipfs.io).
> how to basically get started after you download it.
ipfs init
ipfs daemon

and in a new tab
ipfs tour list

and go from there.
These files are available via ipfs so you can show them via a gateway.
[cont.]
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>>51527582
>What happens if i upload a file, my friend downloads it, he stops sharing it and so do i?
Assuming you both clear your cache of it, and nobody else has seen or downloaded it, then it disappears from the network.
>can you have human readable paths, or is it all hashes?
If you wrap files in folders (ipfs add -w <some-file>, or ipfs add -r <some-folder>), the path to the files proper will be human readable despite the folder being a hash.
Additionally, you can use any DNS system that support TXT entries, register such an entry with "dnslink=<ipfs-url (/ipfs or ipns/<hash>)>" and get a plaintext url this way (that's how you can reach ipfs.io/ipns/gindex.dynu.com, which is a completely ipfs-side website).
>How can you add shit to that site anyway?
There's no dynamic site support yet. If you want me to add your links, post itt. If I can tell what the content is (no "random video", but "random video collection" is OK), then I'll add it, provided I don't miss your post. You're also welcome to experiment with smart contract frameworks (like ethereum or tendermint) or distributed cluster management tools (like serf) to build us a fully distributed and decentralized toolkit, or to create an http portal that pushes content to ipfs and updates the site's ipns link as needed.
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>>51527801
So i'm trying it and it's slow as fuck... webui, streaming, anything, and i have no idea whats going on. why is webui so fucking so, shouldn't that be like a locally hosted thing

>If you access content, it is saved in your cache (10GB by default).
What's my cache folder? is that where i IPFS inited at ?

I'm on windows for the time being should that make a difference...
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>>51527968
The cache is at $HOME/.ipfs/
There is a bug in the current version which slows down resolution of ipns links. Moreover, if you have no peers connected to you, you'll obviously reach content slowly. Wait for more peers to show up (~10 minutes, shouldn't be an issue past the first time you run ipfs as your dht isn't populated yet) and see if the speed is better. Once resolution is done, actually downloading the content is supposed to be fast for the most part (you should be able to watch the dkr movie streamed in realtime for instance).
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Does *everyone* get the bug where the daemon stops responding after a while? I've tried running it on my desktop (gentoo, compiled from source) and my vps (debian, official binaries) and it's the same thing.

Surely there's some configuration that works, since the gateway is fine. Has anyone found it? 32 bit builds maybe?
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>>51528145
Yes, everyone.
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>>51528145
>Surely there's some configuration that works, since the gateway is fine.
Exactly my thoughts. If you can figure out what the peer ID of the gateway is, you could use ipfs id <peer id> to help debug this issue.
I and 2 other people have the same problem but other people seem to be doing fine.
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So i keep getting an Connection refused in chrome but the daemons running with 70 peers

Surely i should be able to watch something
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>>51528349
Are you connecting to the IPFS site through port 8080? Or 5001?
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>>51528349
How are you connecting?
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>>51528546
>>51528379
Running the daemon on my machine
WebUI is working ok now (localhost:5001/webui)

But doing (localhost/ipns/gindex.dynu.com) *Also Localhost:8080. and 127.0.0.1 & 127.0.0.1:8080)

all give "Connection Refused" error in chrome i got it to work a couple times, but then videos won't stream. at all
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>>51528736
You have to connect by "localhost:8080/ipns/gindex.dynu.com", localhost will try port 80.
Try to access it via ipfs.io. If that works, the problem's on your end.
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reminder, around 500mb of rare pepes:
http://localhost:8080/ipfs/QmRa2z3zT
L2XHtheAjYnsuSDiyDn4
sKktWrywg31KdnMmX
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>>51530419
The pepe market crashed. Rare has no value anymore senpai
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>>51531244
but but, you can pirate them
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>>51531303
Even lesser value
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>>51528819
Ok i'm an idiot,
Localhost and Localhost 8080 doesn't work
but 127.0.0.1:8080 does

Anyway

Got it working, but my whole network takes a shit when it's running i've noticed?

How come? like my computer starts shitting it's pants, facebook disconnects, other streaming video in the house is going down, i have 10/1 internet, it shouldn't happen when i load pages like gindex

This being said, after trying it and getting it to work, i'm thoroughly impressed and hype about this project... any help they need in getting awareness or building apps or shit?

I may put something up for the site, but my internet is shitty for uploads

How do i name things? like instead of a hash have a file name, like Dark Knight
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>>51531328
ipfs add -w will wrap a file inside a folder, allowing you to link to it by /ipfs/<hash>/file_name.ext
Otherwise, you can register a DNS TXT record with value "dnslink=/ipfs/<hash>" or "dnslink=/ipns/<hash>" and wait for the record to propagate.
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>>51531328
No idea why your network goes down like that while running. Ill let some other anon answer that for you.

Helping them code it at their github would help them the most, but if you are unable to do that, then setup some service. Make people want to come to ipfs. If you lack the knowledge to do that, hash some of your own stuff and send it to the creators of services. Theres an anime tracker to send animes to, and an index of random files to send other stuff to. Im sure other sites will start popping up.

Animu tracker here:
/ipns/QmUqBf56JeGUvuf2SiJNJahAqaVhFSHS6r9gYk5FbS4TAn

Index site here:
/ipns/gindex.dynu.com/
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Hi friends,

I'll take the first 15 requests from What.CD and I'll be back in an hour to 'upload' them or however it works (I haven't done the reading yet) as long as there is a thread up.
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>>51531478
puddle of mudd - icon (flac plz)
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>>51531478
great honor senpai
rage against the machine - the battle of los angeles
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>>51531478
I request an invite senpai. ;D
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>>51531478
Disturbed Immortalized album. If you dont want to do the whole album, then The Vengeful One in that album is great. Thanks m8
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>>51531806
>>51531870
>>51532447
I snatched these so I'll read through your OP now.
Check in an our or two and they'll be there.
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How do you change the location of the /.ipfs/block folder?

I keep running out of space on this drive and want to move it over
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>>51518130
how safe is this stuff for the average user?
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>you can watch while downloading

So you can make a popcorn time-esque client if you wanted to and market it to normies and monetize it?
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>>51533088
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>>51531478
>.6 ratio
jesus anon...
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>>51533088
Thanks friend

>>51533094
ipfs config datastore.path *Place you want it*

>>51533104
As safe as normal internet. Safer actually. Except that anyone connected to you as a peer can see your IP. But no one is going to do anything to a random IP they see anyways.

>>51533106
Yeah pretty much. Not very much media on ipfs yet at all though.
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>>51533125
Required ratio, I blurred my ratio.

Why would I have infinite invites and a shit ratio?
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>>51533125
>dumbposter
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>>51533142
I heard something about what.cd giving infinite invites to people for a limited time. Is there any truth to that? Other anon mightve thought that.
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>>51518130
>Having a static site
Por que?
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>>51533156
No, they gave the lower userclasses (user and member) one invite each providedd they had a ratio greater than 0.7 and 5GB downloaded.
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>>51533164
Oh cool beans. That makes more sense.
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>>51533159
A static site is just a site that doesnt change. ipfs has a few big limitations right now, and currently you cant have anything that changes based on user input.
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>>51518130
>It's basically BitTorrent on steroids.
But acceptance in the Torrenting world has been disappointing, hence all this shilling for the last month or so.
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>>51533195
Yeah, one each is a lot of invites anyway when you consider that there's 148,874 enabled members.
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>>51533222
Oh wow. Yeah that is a lot of invites.
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>>51533211
the dev reckons the web has become too online-focussed

he wants sites to be made in ways that can still function offline, like how you can keep working on a git project without being online
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>>51533263
That would be nice, however that seems like it would limit everything by so much.
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>>51533134
Doesn't seem to be working and now its totally broken since i deleted my blocks folder lol
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>>51533308
obviously not everything would make sense like this, but even highly dyanamic sites like, well, 4chan, could benefit from ipfs for static content distribution (images, js, css, etc, basically everything except the html)
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>>51533336
Did you restart the daemon?
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>>51533344
Yeah definitely. I love the idea of this ipfs stuff. Im just not sure going offline for a fair period of time would work with most systems out there.
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>>51533222
Hey man, how could I possibly get into what.cd? I know begging on forums is definitely not the way to go, but Ive been very interested in joining this tracker for a while. No friends that are in it, so Ive gotta find a way in on my own. Any help or advice you can give me?
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>>51533384
[email protected]:~/.ipfs$ ipfs daemon
Initializing daemon...
Swarm listening on /ip4/127.0.0.1/tcp/4001
Swarm listening on /ip4/XXXXXXX/tcp/4001
Swarm listening on /ip4/XXXXXXX/tcp/4001
Swarm listening on /ip6/::1/tcp/4001
API server listening on /ip4/127.0.0.1/tcp/5001
Gateway (readonly) server listening on /ip4/127.0.0.1/tcp/8080
Daemon is ready
06:04:08.061 ERROR commands/h: err: mkdir /home/ubuntu/.ipfs/blocks/1220f14e: no such file or directory handler.go:265


Thats what I get now when attempting to upload anything.
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>>51533453
Did you delete /home/ubuntu/.ipfs/blocks/ or terminate improperly or something?

Well, at worst, "rm -r /home/ubuntu/.ipfs/" and ipfs init again...
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>>51533453
if i was to hazard a guess, you might have to delete the datastore/*.ldb files as well, if not the whole datastore folder
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>>51533453
Edit the config file directly. Should be located at ~/.ipfs/config

Change the datastore path manually in there
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>>51518130
>people saved my 3-second oekaki'd banner I made to make a new thread

why
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>>51527801
>ipfs.io/ipns/gindex.dynu.com has a list of all the content we know about so far
FYI, there have been a lot more stuff posted in the other threads that haven't been added.
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>>51533493
OP here, I just grabbed it off one of the old threads I had pinned in clover. Was tired of the default image. Needed to spice it up a bit.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't visiting a file/address automatically cache and store the file on your machine too? Haven't used it in a few months so my memory is a bit hazy
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>>51533515
Thats correct. It will delete stuff automatically when you reach the specified amount of storage though. (by default 10 gigs)
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>>51533471
done all that set the datastore to the new location and its still using the /home/ubuntu/.ipfs/ for blocks
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>>51533556
Did you edit the config directly like I said?

Did you restart the daemon after you edited the config?
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>>51533556
Uh, why don't you just symlink or hardlink it to elsewhere?
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Reminder to not use ipfs until they solve the CP problem

right now you can become a CP seeder without knowing, and the FBI can request all seeders of a particular file and get your IP

even deleting nigh-instantly won't work since they'll just automatize the process
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>>51533556
If all else fails you can always symlink .ipfs/blocks to the location you want to use.
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>>51533438
I certainly do.

read all of

www.whatinterviewprep.com

and you'll get yourself in in under a day.

>>>/g/ptg for questions.
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>>51533570
I checked the config with nano datastore is set properly

  "Datastore": {
"GCPeriod": "1h",
"Path": "/mnt/dataipfs",
"StorageGCWatermark": 90,
"StorageMax": "10GB",
"Type": "leveldb"


Daemon has been restarted too
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>>51533574 (cont'd)
Also, datastore folder obviously != block folder.

>>51533578
Lel, yes, don't help with any P2P network because of muh child pornography and terrorists.
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>>51533581
If you read through this and know basic stuff, the hardest part is waiting in line.

Actual interview is pretty easy.
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>>51533617
I agree, you could wait twn minutes, you could wait six hours. Obviously you can do something else in the meantime though.

JUST MAKE SURE YOU ACTUALLY READ AND UNDERSTAND THE CONTENT
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>>51533574
Doesnt support that yet.

>>51533578
There is no CP problem. Just dont look at CP and you are good. If you randomly come across CP, just instantly leave the site, and run the garbage collector.
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So another p2p protocol without encryption?
Useless.
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>>51533578
Never open any torrents, if it contains a CP file -and YOU CAN'T TELL in advance, torrent files could contain anything- you may be hosting CP.

Also don't go on the internet with javascript or flash or java enabled. You could be hosting CP in like, seconds, at worst.

Do not use closed source software, unless you can verify it's not hosting CP specifically, it probably does.
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>>51533610
>Lel, yes, don't help with any P2P network because of muh child pornography and terrorists.
In any P2P network you can disable seeding so you can check a file before doing it
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>>51533646
>Doesnt support that yet.
Uh, it's your *filesystem* that supports it?

Hardlinks can't even be told apart by software at all, and symlinks generally also should work (haven't tried it, but few pieces of software fail with these).
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>>51533593
Hm. Do you have write permissions at that location?
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>>51533656
With torrents there's a clear original uploader.
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>>51533672
Hardlinks won't work accross partitions, though, which is why he's doing this in the first place.
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>>51533581
Oh thanks man. Ill definitely do that!
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since I can't move the blocks folder to another drive is there at least a way to limit the amount of data it uses?
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>>51533670
Or intellectual property violations, right? You know these are crimes, too?

More than unknowingly distributing CP in most cases?
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>>51533706
There's no point to prosecute each individual IP breach, but there's a point in catching every pedo, and they won't be able to tell a difference between the original troll uploader and all the current seeders who just clicked a link on 4chan claiming to be anime
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>>51533689
No worries, good luck.
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>>51533672
Oh look at that. Ive never used hardlinks. Just googled it and read up a bit. Youre right senpai.
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>>51533675
yes i have 777 permissions
>>51533687
also symlinking didnt work on my system I mean i can see the files on the other drive but its still using the .ipfs folder and using up data
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>>51533687
> accross partitions, though, which is why he's doing this in the first place.
Didn't see that one. Okay, mount a LVM volume or btrfs subvolume into blocks/ ?
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>>51533703
Yes. By default it uses 10 GB
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>>51533728
>i can see the files on the other drive but its still using the .ipfs folder and using up data
How do you mean? It either works and stores it in the directory pointed to by the symlink, or it detects that it's a symlink and shits itself.
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>>51533718
> but there's a point in catching every pedo
Actually there is absolutely no point to catching every person who caches block data in a CDN / P2P network, no. They could start with google or amazon or akamai 's CDN first, otherwise.
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>>51533797
not cache
seeding
distributing CP is waaay worse crime than looking at it
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>>51533754
like I'm getting duplicate files on each drive
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>>51533308
>however that seems like it would limit everything by so much.
Not really.
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I keep geting the error "Error: merkledag: not found"

when i try to download
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>>51533857
use the daemon
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>>51533804
It's a data cache in the same way as Google / Amazon / Akamai / ...

Yes, it gets transferred to other nodes for use, but it's a cache because it wasn't "decided" by you that this content gets hosted. It just happened to slip into your part of the P2P network as part of the P2P network operating and doing its thing.

Anyhow, "it could be used for terrorism / CP" shit applies to about anything you can think of, including 4chan. Yet it still can be operated... maybe because we haven't completely let governments fuck our freedoms yet?

Maybe grow some balls, if you are not distributing CP but just your software automatically is, then I'm sure you can defend that.
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>>51533578
>right now you can become a CP seeder without knowing
Nonsense. You only cache and share files that you access.

>>51533684
No there isn't. In torrents there is a swarm and that's that.
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>>51533853
How not? You cant have chans like this, nothing can be streamed, no updating stats, no chats, nothing of the sort.
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>>51533867

I just want to download, not seed
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>>51533876
>it wasn't "decided" by you that this content gets hosted.
it was, by choosing to use an unsecure CP distribution protocol

that's what they'll say at your trial
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>>51533830
You have two directories named ~/.ipfs/blocks? That doesn't make any sense.
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>>51533906
this post is exactly why ipfs (communist protocol) will fail
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>>51533857
Start the daemon.
>>51533906
It doesnt work like that. You need the daemon to download.
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>>51533906
you sir, can leave.
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>>51533919
why did the daemon listening for connections on my public ip address?
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>>51533944
Its listening for peers to connect to.
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>>51530419
Do you have a torrent i can use to download the pepes?
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>>51533971
Why not use ipfs?
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it's taking one minute to download a megabyte. is this normal?

i have 30MB internet
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>>51533910
I symlink .ipfs/blocks to /mnt/dataipfs

both ipfs/blocks and /mnt/dataipfs have the same data and I can see my available space decreasing on the ipfs/blocks drive
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>>51533908
Sounds like you're living in a police state. At the point where it's not even your direct intent that counts anymore but random consequences stemming from computer software doing a thing uncontrollable to you, I guess you'll be constantly helping child pornographers, tax fraudsters using dogecoins, terrorists, illegal opposition parties, murderers and criminals in general,

Don't have this issue here, thankfully, but if you live in such a state, better get friends in high places or escape abroads. You'll never be able to defend against even an false accusation that your computer was doing something illegal, and even just running DHT might make you complicit in EVERY CRIME EVER - you helped mediate it, lel.

> Inb4 it's a hunt for CP only - in no nation known to me do the powers that be actually care about CP file sharing, until it suits them.
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>>51533995
>>51533983


because it is slow
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>>51533904
The chans actually serve static files. The only "dynamic" thing is the thread autoupdater, which polls for changes to static files. ipfs offers mutable hashes, so this can be done all the same.

>nothing can be streamed
I think most of the data on the network is actually people streaming anime to their media players.

>>51533906
Then set the store size to 0 bytes.
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>>51533995
Anon, it's p2p, it also depends on how much upload capacity your peers have (and the infrastructure in between you both).

If you have torrents with few seeds, it's more likely that total available BW is low. The same applies here. You might however get 30MB/s on something else, or this same share if it gets popular and you try later.
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>>51533995
You're probably downloading from only one peer who has a shit internet connection, duh.

>>51534023
You are slow. This should be no slower or faster than bittorrent.
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Does this use a lot of bandwidth for anyone else? All I have pinned is the GitS manga (125 MB) and it seems to be using ~1GB/hour.
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>>51533995
How many peers are you connected to?
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>>51534024
Everything you are talking about there is online lol. Just because it is p2p sharing doesnt make it offline.
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>>51534023
No it aint. Its just something with your install. I downloaded an animu from the tracker very fast.
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>>51534048

how do i check?
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>>51534046
It really depends on how many people are requesting your files. If its taking up too much data, you can unpin the file after its been shared to a good amount of people.
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>>51534079
ipfs swarm peers
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>>51534058
>Everything you are talking about there is online
Yes that is quite the point of the Internet.
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>>51534048

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>>51534125
Read the thread.
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>>51534009
They should have the same data since they're the same directory. IPFS also stores some stuff outside the blocks directory. Symlink the entire .ipfs directory to store everything on your other partition.
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>>51534134
Are your ports forwarded correctly?
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>>51534139
I've been following it since the start.
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>>51534151
Well you missed this one >>51533263
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>>51534149

it is listening on port 4001 and 8080
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>>51534172
Do you understand this ipfs does not exclude "online" things?
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>>51534186
>he wants sites to be made in ways that can still function offline
I was arguing that taking things offline would take away a lot of functionality.
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just uninstalled this memeware
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>>51534182
But are your ports forwarded? It will listen even if those ports arent open.
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>>51534223
No one's forcing a particular site architecture.
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>>51534237
I never had to do port forwarding when i used bittorent, if you can make ipfs as easy as bittorent then i will use it.

i should not have to change my router settings

normies will never use this.
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>>51534250
Nevermind.
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>>51534259
Then dont use this.

Its in alpha stage. You cant expect it to be as easy to use as production software.
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>>51534259
> I never had to do port forwarding when i used bittorent, if you can make ipfs as easy as bittorent then i will use it.
How can one be too lazy to forward some freaking ports?

> i should not have to change my router settings
> normies will never use this
It already has fucking UPnP, but if it didn't work, then you just fix your router instead.

Also, normies will presumably have functioning UPnP or buy the newest applel router with the newest Applel laptop so that it finally just works.
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Is there a windows x86-64 verison?
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>>51521294
Hm. Maybe I'll share more in some threads on other boards. This is kinda not enough even just to try it out for a bit.
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>>51535368
Yes just google gobuilder ipfs.
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