This thing still does amazing in 1080p despite being so old and

>>51515091
nah the i5 of GPUs is obviously the GTX 970

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I got an i5 2500k back in 2011...didnt know it was so good...still OC at 4.2

I still use a 7870. You save a lot of money on stuff like this when you stop playing video games.

>>51515154
I also bought 2 radeon 6950 which does the job really well in 2011

I'm still using a HD 6850

>>51515091
>rebranded 7970 for $200+
>good

Still using my 670. Doing fine on most games, but it's starting to show it's age. Thinking about just biting the bullet and going for the 980.

>>51515579
>7970ghz edition
>not good

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Figured this is a good thread to ask, my hd 7870 just died and I was looking to replace it, should I go for a r9 290x or a gtx 970. Like the 970 beats it at most benchmarks I've looked up, but I don't wanna fall for the 3.5gb meme.

>>51516140
It's game dependent honestly. That's honestly what it boils down to in the end.

>>51515091
should I replace my GTX 660 2gb with one?

>>51516140
That extra .5 VRAM would not matter at all. Not unless you're playing video games with 4k textures.

>>51515154
Same. still OC at 4.5 here.

>GTX 460
>still handles everything I throw at it

Master race reporting in

>>51516205
>>51516264
Figured as much, just needed some assurance for my purchase, thanks fags.

>>51516292
>tfw I had 2 gtx460's in sli
I believe you are bullshitting good sir. Either that or you haven't played a game newer than 2011.

>>51516317
>sli

Found your problem

Still on my 7870 at 1080p with no issues enjoying any game so far. Most recent game i play is arkham knight. Looks gud.

Maybe 2016 will be worth upgrading

>>51516329
it was definitely worse with a single card. nice meem tho.

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>>51515091

The 780 Ti is just a much a better buy, in every way. Even the 780 wipes the floor with the 280x.

But you have to be daring enough to buy used. Got mine from microcenter with a $30 replacement plan.

>>51515091
if it has that stock cooler on it no
I have a XFX r9 290 xfire and runs everything 1440p

>>51516496
It also costs way more than a 280x

If you're spending that much you might as well just buy a new card.

>>51516496
nigga what? Used 780ti costs like used 290x in general. Used 280x costs like used 770 and performs slightly worse than 780.

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>>51516527
>>51516518

the funny thing is that you'll always find a new 280x in any store. (because only poor people buy those cards)

But you MUST buy used for the 700 series. That's when they're a steal.

(also 280x is 780's opponent, and is beaten 30% across the board).

>>51516629
Oh, you're just a shill all along. Should've figured.

Hope that $0.03 deposited into your account was worth it.

>>51516629
280x is the opponent of the 780? Pulling shit out of your ass jing jong?
290 vs 780
280 vs 770
270 vs 760

>>51516735
290X vs 780ti?

7970 was without a doubt one of the best value/well ageing cards in the last decade. I finally jumped to a Fury X on my main rig, but I keep the 7970s in my servers.

The 7970 GHz edition is the 2500k of gpus, and it's cheap af (the 280x is more expensive for no reason, since it's just a rebrand)

>>51515091
7970 was the i5 2500k of gpus
its why its still relevant and still as powerful as a 380x

>>51516845
No that's just AMD being shit

>>51516883
>being shit when their years old card is still very much relevant

Are you some kind of moron?

>>51516845
>>51516883
I am still using a 7970 right now, powering a 3440x1440 display. Been thinking of upgrading. I guess 290 is the best bang for the buck to move up to.

However, nothing seems to be as great a deal as the 7970 was.

>>51516917
Are you? If NVIDIA wasn't stagnate and riding off easy sales like Intel does you'd be dead in water

>>51516496

Coming from a person who owned two, 780Ti cards and had to RMA them both within 5 months of purchase and within 4 weeks of each other, respectively, I got mine brand new for $400 each because microcenter wanted room for new stock. That being said, it wasn't worth a dime. Luckily the warranty with the RMA replaced with two 980s, which I promptly sold and got a Fury X. Never been happier

>>51516845
I've got a 7950, which is just the slightly weaker version of the 7970. It's still a fucking great card and I don't intend to replace it any time soon.

>>51516922
wait till next gen 14nm gpus

>>51516931
Ok? You still haven't really made a point there. 7970 is still a great card in the end.

>>51516292
Feelu. Mine is oc'd to gtx 470 perf and everything is smooth.

>>51516954
>That being said, it wasn't worth a dime

At $400, the 780 Ti is a steal. It consistently gets Titan-esque render times.

Now you're just being an ATI shill.

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>>51516735
The competition array always adjusts based on price, silly AMD-whore.

Right now the 780 is priced to compete against the 280 and it's better in many aspects, along with better driver support for 3d rendering.

>>51517077
WTF is this price. You can buy 390 for $320 on amazon.

>>51517010
>GPU Rendering

>>51515122
i = 1 in roman numerals
1 before a 5 means subtract
4
4gb vram
Nope, 970 isnt the new i5, it's the new iii.i5
Studdering to get there

>>51516264
tonnes of games which run fine on 1gb cards
run like ass once it passes that 3.5 threshold..

>>51517010
I know it was a steal.....did you forget the part where I bought both of them? I've owned more nvidia gpus than you have owned GPUs period, so no, im not shilling for amd. The 780ti is just trash, especially after nvidia raped the drivers

>>51515600
I'm feeling the same from my 670. May just try to wait until next year though unless there is a crazy good sale on black friday.
I'd hate to buy a 980 Ti and then 3 months later a new better cards comes out for the same price.

>>51515600
670 is barely better than a 370 now which used to be a 7850, I can see why you'd feel the need to upgrade

It's a 380/GTX 960 4GB tier card now,most cards within its price range with new architectures are better suit for games of today,why get this?

>>51517232
>I've owned more nvidia gpus than you have owned GPUs period,
I doubt it.

>nvidia raped the drivers
In what sense? Did you lose 1 fps in your favorite weeb game? R9 fury is a complete non-factor in workstation rendering. It's even worse.

>>51517316
games of today are good for 280x which is why its faster than the 960 and on par with the 380x

>>51517341
>280x
>on par with 380x
wot
Maybe in 1080p..

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>>51516292
Mfw my 460 768mb just died recently and I have the bones to replace it with anything I want.
I had a 960 that I returned yesterday, it didn't seem to be a "big" jump. I'm thinking maybe I need a 390 cf or 980 non ti.

>>51517319
GeForce
GeForce 3
4300
6200
8800 gts 378
8800gtx. Two of them
9800gtx
9800gtx+
9800gx2
560
570hd
760windforce
780ti. X2
980 x2

>>51517440
He's got me stacked.

>>51517440
wow he actually took the time to shitpost all his green team cards

this is the worst case of little man syndrome i've ever seen

>>51517469
irony at its finest

Havent had as many ATi/AMD cards, but more in recent years than ever

>>51517376
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/R9_380X_Strix/23.html

If I buy a 390x can I still use my GTX 670 for CUDA stuff and keep both drivers installed?

Would it be cheaper to buy a 950 or something and keeping my 670 for gaming?

I am having trouble running a 4k display @ 60Hz.

>>51515579
>not just buying the 7970 for $130
That's the Australian price, I'm sure you americans can beat that.

Got my XFX 280x overclcoked to 1120 MHZ and runs fallout 4 like a champ

(My 8350 is clocked at 4.2 GHZ)

>tfw 2500k and 280x
best rig 2013

why get this card if the 380x exist at the same or similar price with less features?

>>51517698
>why not buy things from the future
gee I wonder

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280x so good i had to get two.

>>51516955
Me too. It still plays all the games I enjoy at 1440p. I regret not selling it though during the insane bitcoin hype.

>>51517738
this is what stupid looks like, /g/

>>51515166
Running same GPU, just ref design tho, so loud as fuck. But it still runs battlefield 4 at medium settings 1080p 60 FPS with my AMD 8150 at 4.2ghz. I still have no idea how it still keeps up.

>>51516807
Yep
>>51517077
lel, wtf is this bullshit? What a good shill.

>>51515091
Sure if you don't care about quality drivers.

>>51517502
>7970 for $130
They're not that low in America.

>>51517976
go check ebay

I have a i5 2500k at 4.5ghz and a 560 TI which I bought back in 2012 when this combo was the best price to performance.

Last year I was able to snag a non reference r9 280x for 110$ off craiglist in CANADIAN dollars. With my i5 2500k at 4.5ghz I can run most games on good settings.

I've tried overclocking the r9 280x but it's kind of shit at that though. Might be because I have shitty cooling but I"m going to try for 5.0ghz and OC'd gpu when I get some noctuas.

The i5 2500k is literally GOD tier cpu. I'm happy I got a r9 280x as it seems like it's a very good card for the price. Don't think I'll upgrade for another 2 years at least.

Also

>buying new video cards

It's so easy to buy it used now a days and you guys pretty much recycle it every 2-3 years anyways.

>>51516496
A 970 beats a 780ti, especially in new games. Its a terrible purchase now

>2500k
You mean i7 920.

The 8800GT would be the i7 920 of GPUs. It will still run MOBAs just fine.
Runner up is probably the 5850. Launch price was $259, coming out nearly a year earlier than the GTX 460 and generally beating it in performance. AMD price gouged after launch so a $330 5850 wouldn't have been such a great deal, but if you snagged a launch one, that was definitely one of the best values ever.

The 7970 was a $550 card at the very end of 2012. Calling its 280X rebrand one of the greatest cards because the release of the astounding GTX 970 caused it to drop to sub $250 is a bit much. If the 280X couldn't even come close to holding its value, the GTX 970 is objectively the far superior card.

>>51516245
That would be a pretty nice step up

Off topic, but:

I'm torn between MSI's 980 ti and EVGA's 980 ti Hybrid. The price difference is $60. Any thoughts or opinions about the two? I made a thread but no one cares

>>51518078
I'd always go MSI if I'd have the choice. They always have the quietest coolers.

Anybody ever considering building the cheapest PC that's still good?

People on craigslist selling i7 920's for $30 and shit. Could probably turn a big profit off buying these parts, building a PC, and selling them to plebs for like a 500% markup.

>>51517499
Why not a second 670 for sli?

>>51518197
I cheaped out on my CPU, i7 5820k. I think it can only use 1 Graphics card to the full extent.

>>51517976
Boy do I feel bad for americans.
I've seen 7950s go as low as $110, and a 7870 for $90.

>>51518096
The hybrid's quieter because it is liquid cooled, but the MSI goes with my color scheme, but I really want the EVGA. I think if I get the MSI I'll always be annoyed that I didn't get the EVGA, So I'll go with the hybrid.

Thanks for caring, and goodbye $710

>>51518029
You are retarded

>>51516629
is that TF2 player TheFragile ?
also what would be a good upgrade from a Radeon HD 7850 ? No bias please

>>51516807
290X was meant to be the direct competitor of GTX TITAN, the 780ti released some month later and is faster than both the 290X and TITAN.

I have a 280x, and not the shitty 850mHz one

Is it even worth upgrading yet?

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>>51519507
nope

>>51519213
Not anymore.

>>51515091
>Is the 280x the i5 2500k of GPUs?
That would be the 7970Ghz edition

>>51516140
Why aren't you getting a 390?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9cKZiJw6Pk

>>51516292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QkyfGJgcwQ

>>51516496
You know unless a new game comes out and nvidia gimps it's performance for a month before they "fix" the problem

>>51519507
Just wait for next year unless you're going to get a Fury

>Sapphire R9 280X Vapor-X Tri-X STD OC 3GB, €235
>Sapphire R9 380 OC Nitro Dual-X 4GB, €239
>XFX R9 380 dual fan 4GB, €228
>Sapphire R9 380X Nitro Dual-X OC 4GB, €269

Which one? I'm already over my budget with the 280X so is the 380X REALLY worth it?

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>>51519990
Haha WHAT THE FUCK Those prices

>>51519990
Whatever the cheapest 380 4gb card is

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>>51520002
>>51519990
just fuck you and ur prices lamo

im paying myself sick here

>>51520002

21% VAT

>>51519885
Fury or Fury x?

>>51520042
25% based Finland

>>51520048
non X, or just buy a solid 4k display and wait to buy a GPU next year

A wasabi mango is probably the monitor to get, 4k 120hz 1080p, and Free-sync

>>51520051
Why would anyone want its people to stop using money with such high taxation

?

>>51519990
Sapphire 280x would be the fastest for the money. Also great cooler and OC headroom. Only go for 3xx if you want freesync, better VSR and better efficiency.

>>51520166
Can Sapphire 280X videogame at 1440p 60hz monitor?

Most people are saying 'probably'.

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>chugging by on ancient dirtcheap hd 5750 (512mb version)
>install divinity original sin EE
>runs flawlessly on ultra 1080p
>mfw delaying upgrades for 5 consecutive years

>>51518258
I got a broken 7950 for 15 euros. Baked it in the oven, has worked for 6 months heavily overclocked.

>>51520179
I game at 4k with my 280x but it depends per game. For Arma res at 4k but everything is low except for distance stuff.

>>51520179

Not at 60 fps probably but if you're willing to sacrifice a few fps and quality it will be doable.
That's on modern games of course, pretty sure it could handle 1440p60fps on almost anything pre 2013

>>51515154
>>51516272
4.9 here, get on my level

>>51520166
200 series cards have freesync though

What about gtx 760?
I got a reference 760 on Amazon for like $120.
Using an i5 4690k also

>>51515091

'Still does'

It's only 2 years old


>>51515154

another 2500k child

enjoy your micro stutter and lack of 8 cores

>>51520839
>another 2500k child
>enjoy your micro stutter and lack of 8 cores
haha what

>>51519774
Cos it's shit. I can get the 970 for $50 cheaper where I live and it runs cooler. Housefires aren't my thing.

>the 970 is good
Is this a new meme or something?

>>51515091
I got this card, XFX version. Gonna upgrade to a 980ti soon.

Gonna try it in my whole new setup before i get the 980ti though, just to see what it's like in a setup where the only thing that could be the bottleneck would be itself.

Also, the next set of nvidia cards, especially the high end ti versions would be like 4-5months away, right?

>>51520839
My 2500k has never bottlenecked me or caused me any issues I think your just mad that your 8 core fx can't compare to this godly cpu in single core performance and lower heat production, so stay mad and wait for Zen, then talk some shit.

>>51516140
The 970 does not beat a 290x anymore for fucks sake, maybe a year ago yes but the 290x has been improving constantly with driver updates and seems to do much better in dx12

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>>51520917

A stock 290x is faster than a 780ti at 1080p lol.

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>>51521009

At 1440p it gets even faster.

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>>51521025

4k, for completion sake.

>gtx 960
>never have a problem with 1080p

why is the 960 so underrated?

>>51521050

Primarily because the 380 exists and is faster.

>>51520042
Stop buying in PCComponentes, wait until after black friday because they jacked their prices up some days ago.

I have a 280x from Asus with a 1100 Mhz core clock (i could probably push it some more but can't be arsed). With the new crimson driver i can run BF4 on the ultra preset without having it dip below 60 fps, which was more or less impossible when i got it one and a half years ago.

I'm pretty happy with my purchase as far as price to performance ratios go, and i'll probably stick with this card for at least 2 more years.

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>>51521192

To think your 280x is as fast as a 780 in some games these days. In late 2013 it would've been insane to suggest such a thing.

>>51521156

But their website says that sales on gaming and parts are tomorrow

what's the most important thing in a GPU's specs?

>>51521597

There isn't - different gpus have different architectures and thus cannot be directly compared.

>>51521597
TDP

thats why nvidia cards are the best

>>51515091
>Is the 280x the i5 2500k of GPUs?
The 7970 is.

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>>51521620

When Nvidia isn't lying that is.

>>51520861
>Housefires aren't my thing.
Yet you bought the fermi card you cancerous fanboy cunt.

how does the 280x handle 1440p? i'm willing to tone down graphics a bit to get good framerate

>>51517823
It probably get's keked by your cpu though. Get a nice i3 and you'll probably get better results.

>>51520166
>VSR

can't you just downsample the pleb way and get the same results?

hjdrk

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>>51521597

overclock potential

>>51523633
Aint that the MEMEGPU with 3.5 of VRAM`instead of 4

>>51523645

Overclock potential is also a fools errand - you run the fun of silicon lottery. It is better to get a card that has the higher clocks out of the box as you know the card will run at those speeds.

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>>51523645

yes, but it's currently the best price/perf gpu one can buy. $250 for the performance of a $500 GPU.

>>51523664
That's Tom's Hardware? Are they objective and reliable in their information, ie. do you think they're paid or not?

It's so hard finding information that's reliable.

I wish I had studied electricity and engineering so I could understand it without explaining..

>>51523661

go read some reviews shill, every 970 can reach 1500mhz core clocks without a voltage increase

>>51523664
http://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/List/000-1CE/komponentit--naytonohjaimet--pci-e--geforce-gtx-pelaamiseen--gtx-900-sarja?ob=6&fq=970

There's TONS of versions of it in the shop I'm looking at.

What's the generally preferred aftermarket version? Something with great fans but which one?

>>51523687

That..that isn't how silicon works anon.

I have one 280x already, worth buying a second 280x for crossfire?

>>51524818

Off the top of my head 280x crossfire is around as fast as fury/fury x.

>>51524886
Cool. Would I have to worry about cooling significantly? I'm thinking about changing from my crappy case to a be quiet Base 800 but it might not have the best cooling. My CPU is already liquid cooled

>>51524953

One card will always run a little hotter than the other, but if the cards have decent coolers on them there shouldn't be any issues.

>>51525001
Thanks. Looks like I might pick up an XFX 280x this black friday

>>51516629
ayy lmao

>>51515154
>>51516272
>>51517982
>>51520525
Any of you guys run an OC 2500k with ram higher then 1600mhz , my 2500k is oc at 4.5ghz and im wondering if i want to use the black friday sale to upgrade my ram to corsair VP 2133mhz.
Running a 280x vapor-x and i love it! Would buy a second one if my psu could handle it!

what's better: the sapphire r9 390 or the msi? Is it worth paying £50 more for a sapphire 390x?

>>51525440
sapphire 390
3 fans > 2 fans
barely any difference to 390x

>>51525760

The msi 390 is higher clocked though and the cooler is nearly as good.

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>>51525440

gtx970

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>>51526008
>imagine the most sexual woman you can

>>51515091
7970 you dipshit

>>51520525
Ram speed is placebo, unless you actually know you need it.

>>51520525
>>51525217
Answered to the wrong dude.

>>51520861
They run at basically the same temperature in his test, same for noise

You also save money with free-sync in the future and have VRAM for days

>>51525893
sapphire has more quiet cooling and better temps
and sapphire generally make the better amd cards.
just get whichever is cheaper theres not much difference.

>>51520783
that's a pretty good deal. my friend has one and it's pretty alright

>>51520725
280x doesn't

>>51527596

Technically it does, just not for vidya, only video playback.

>>51527616
oh I actually didn't know that.

Still, it's mostly just for games, so meh

>>51521597
Generally texels, rops, transistor count, core clock will give you an indication of relative power.

>>51527616
Wait Freesync will match my screen refresh rate to the video files?

WIll Gsync do that?

>>51527861

All AMD Radeon™ graphics cards in the AMD Radeon™ HD 7000, HD 8000, R7 or R9 Series will support AMD FreeSync™ technology for video playback and power-saving purposes. The AMD Radeon™ R9 295X2, 290X, R9 290, R9 285, R7 260X and R7 260 GPUs additionally feature updated display controllers that will support dynamic refresh rates during gaming.


As for gsync I don't know but i'd be surprised if it didn't given the module is on the monitor itself.

>>51526302
Are people actually this stupid? The 280x IS a 7970. Hell its the ghz edition. You couldn't be more of an idiot if you tried.

>>51524886
more like 390x.

>>51528016

Not a chance - a 290x on its own is only around 45% faster than a 280x. A fury X is around 45% faster than a 290x itself, so depending on how high the 280x is clocked anywhere from fury to fury x is reasonable.

http://www.techspot.com/article/942-five-generations-amd-radeon-graphics-compared/

You could extrapolate from that.

I got an i5 2500 in 2011 and a sapphire vapor x r280x this summer

Did I accidentally buy amazing hardware?

>>51528060

Nah - you didn't get the 2500k or 2600k. The 280x is GOAT however.

>>51528188
My one regret is not paying the extra 30 quid for a k edition because I thought I'd upgrade before overclocking. I still feel like I did well though.

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>>51515091
I got a 7970, should I upgrade it to anything this Black Friday? Its treated me so well for years.

>>51528042
You don't have to extrapolate there are 280x crossfire benchmarks.

>>51528328
It would be cheaper to just get another one.

>>51528419

Many are pretty old however and thus do not reflect current performance. I like to use that comparison of cards as the delta is unlikely to change a massive amount (seeing as virtually all those cards still see support).

How long do you think a 280X can hold on before it's time to upgrade?

>>51528573

At 1080p? A good few more years. Just keep clocking it as high as you can and taihti will keep on giving. I suspect hawaii owners are feeling equally as smug.

>>51528573
November 2017.

>>51528328
Not much point, spend your money on a solid 4k display or something and upgrade your GPU next year

>>51528613
This is false. I've already had one die from heat, and I never touched the clock lol.
No, it wasn't an external factor. My case is cool, nothing obstructing fan.

>>51528715

What happens on November 2017 anon?

>>51515122
LOL 3.5GB

What a meme card.

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>>51515154
Still waiting for a GPU to bottleneck me into upgrading my CPU/mobo/RAM.

>>51517077
You can get an used 780 for 150$ maybe even less.

>>51528060
Have a 2500k and a 280x vapor-x. I love the combo!!! Enjoy anon!

>>51528803

Then you had a defective unit - at stock those cards are built to run basically until the end of time. You should still replace the themral paste every few years (possibly every year if you do happen to overclock).

>>51529049
Just try running a few games at 120Hz.
It won't even do half of them.
Even my 4.2 GHz 5820K with 3200 MHz RAM doesn't manage to run a lot of games at a stable 120Hz.

Any psu suggestion for 280x crossfire ?

>>51515091
I have a gtx 670 and feel the same way

moore's law failing is a bitch, though.

finfets soon

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>tfw just want a good mid tier GPU for gaming on my normal sized screen
>so much disagreement and misinformation everywhere

>>51529010
new models, duh

if you don't need everything on high the real determinant of lifespan is when they decide to put out new consoles, i.e. anything better than a 7870 is going to be good for a couple years because that's what the xbone and ps4 run

>>51529325
You buy the closest priced card to your budget and that's it. Ignore the fantard speak

>have a HD 6850
>want to upgrade
>look two gens ahead at 200s
>they are all just rebranded 7000s
>look three gens ahead at 300s
>unless i pay upwards of $400 I'm just getting more 7000s rebrands


AMD is literally the worse.

>>51529410

Right now off the top of my head every 300 series card is GCN 1.1/1.2 which makes none of them a HD7000 rebrand.

>>51529410
You're an idiot

>>51529399
If you aren't buying 980Ti or Titan X you are going to buy AMD

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>>51529410
Look at the transistor count for the 300 series

I got used 270x for 80 € a year ago. It plays everything on 1080p just fine.

2 gb memory is not enough anymore with new games though.

Fucking consoles with their shared memories and high resolution textures.

>>51516629
i managed to get a brand new 770 for $140 from B&H when they had some random firesale

>>51529491
The GTX 970 BTFO of AMD cards

>>51529509
they refreshed the layout and stuff to take advantage of a matured 28nm process. So they're the same, but different

>>51529451
The 7790 is the only 7000 series card which was GCN 1.1. I'm not sure if it's still rebranded as the 360/X or if it dropped out.

>>51529538
They're an updated architecture, if you want a something new go to the Fury, otherwise the 390 is a fairly solid card for high end 1440p gaming and low end 4k gaming

>>51529560
What card from AMD can do high end 1440p? I dont care of 4k at all

>>51529625
390

>>51529625
390 or above, 380x if you want to cheap out

>>51529285
>120Hz
forwhatpurpose.jpg

Do you guys think the 6600k will be the new 2500k?

>>51529782
possibly, even maybe the 4690K, both great processors

>>51516292
Still have my 460 as my backup card. If my current video card ever stops working or needs to be RMAd, I have my 460 to fall back to.

>>51529782
Zen is the next 2500k

>>51529711
Because once you tried a high refresh rate monitor with low display lagt, you never want back.

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>>51529782
>>51529815
Ha, no. i5s are starting to struggle in games now. i7s are showing meaningful performance benefits. We already know that Hyperthreading can result in huge gains, as evidenced by an i3 4130 running at 3.4GHz wiping the floor with a G3258 running at 4.2GHz.

Not paying the extra $50 is going to seem like a real bad decision a year from now. :^)

It's my personal GPU of choice, though it seems rather unpopular. Everyone seems to have the 290X instead

>>51518361
Nah its egoraptor

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>>51530003

Hyperthreading is no replacement for actual cores though. This is a factor in why AMD's 8 core chips have slowly been gaining performance in the last 2 years in particular.

>>51530003
that's a dual core vs a dual core with hyperthreading. that's the difference. i7s only make a difference in games that are poorly optimized. For the vast majority of games a good i5 will work fine.

>>51530069
>have to run at almost double the GHz just to try and keep up

>>51530085
Today. Games are starting to utilise more than four threads even now. It's nothing to do with MUH OPTIMIZATION and everything to do with technology moving on. Quad cores have been around and widespread for the better part of a decade now. It's only natural that things are starting to move on.

There is literally no difference in the two situations, except we haven't hit the tipping point where most new games need more than a quad core. But it's coming.

>>51530207
yes, you're right on pretty much all counts. I do think that quad cores still have a few years left in them though, and games utilizing more than fore cores won't happen as soon as you think.

>>51530003
That isn't hyperthreading exactly getting gains, it's just that some games now require 4 threads to work like GTAV or Far Cry 4, I feel bad for anyone who bought a G3258 over an 860k

>>51530069
>[email protected] lower than a [email protected]
>[email protected] leagues ahead of 4100

Why would anyone trust benchmarks from that site?

>>51520839

>2500k
>a bottleneck

2/10 made me reply.

If everyone optimized their games like avalanche does with Just Cause we wouldn't need to spend such ridiculous amounts of cash on CPU and GPU

JC2 ran like fucking butter even on my toaster laptop so I'm expecting JC3 to be just as good in that regard

>>51530406
Most people are still using old engines or just use unreal

I hope kojima makes the fox engine open to anyone who wants to use it

>>51530429
>Bethesda will never stop using gamebryo
>Bethesda games will always look like shit, run like shit, play like shit and have a million >engine limitations

I have the GeForce 970. Think I should upgrade this black friday/cyber munkday?

>>51530481
They need a new engine if they want to keep selling games

>>51530533

Anything they release with the name Fallout or Elder Scrolls on it is going to sell a gorillion copies so I don't think they're feeling any pressure to improve

>>51530504
That's like asking if you should upgrade from a lamborghini

>>51530577
Oh, well. Thank you. I just hear people constantly makin' a funk about the 970... Should probably upgrade my ram before the GPU.

I've been looking into the MSI R9 380 4GB for $209 on newegg. Is it a good card? Could I get something better at the same price range?

16 or 32 gigs of ram? What is everyones personal preference. I have 8, was thinking of get 32 but that seems excessive...

>>51530663
Well why are you looking to upgrade?
8gb is fine for most people.

>>51530567
Whatever you may think of youtube creators Angry Joe said they really need a new engine and his large fan base probably agreed with that

>>51530698
Honestly I don't know... I guess I just feel like I need to spend money. I like games that have TONS of units on screen too like Total war games and the likes

>>51530698
I've had 16 GiB for about 4 years now, after feeling the limitations of 8 GiB.
If you have a browser with more than 5 tabs and a game running at the same time, 8 GiB is already sorta borderline too small. I haven't felt the need to upgrade to 32 GiB yet, though.

>>51530586
The 970 deserves to be made fun of. It'll run fine in 95% of the cases, but the other 5% are just ... it's a sad case.

>>51530653
You can look at last gen's cards, maybe a used 290/290 X. Or drop those extra 30$ on a 380X. It's a better purchase than the 380.

!!!RETARD ALERT!!!
I've got 1 8gb stick. Can I install 2 4gb sticks along side it and not worry about it?
!!!RETARD ALERT OVER!!!

>>51530844

/sqt/ is that way >>51523384

but yes you can, just make sure they're the same speed

>>51530866
Thank you anon

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Im still rocking a single 660ti, whats a good gpu to get that will play anything recent on ultra? Ive got a few ideas, but i wanna know if anyone else can give some input.

>>51530915
>390
>980
>Fury
>980 Ti

Pick the most expensive one you can afford from those.

>>51530796
Would you recommend a specific brand of 380X? Thank you.

About to build a <$700 PC. Should I get a 2500k?

>>51530992
Sapphire Nitro is the best pick out there.

>>51530997
Hell no, that thing is outdated. Just because people can delay upgrading from it, for the time being, doesn't mean it's a good choice.
If you want something used, get Haswell.

>>51530970
I was actually looking at the strix 970. Is that viable?

Bought a working 2500k/p8z68 and 212 evo for $100

hope its as good as people say it is

>>51531155
Viable? Yes. A good choice? No. It tends to shit itself, particularly on Ultra, because the 3.5 GiB issue.
390 gives you better performance for your money, and doesn't have such problems.

>>51531193
I5 2500k + p8z68 is tha bomb anon!
Rocking that combo for a while and love it!

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>>51531241

Nice im upgrading from a 760k

The thing is the 212 evo is missing parts, and i was about to buy spares from CM but the fucks arent gonna ship soon. I really want to test this thing out within a week, might buy a new cooler :/

>>51531286
You've got a lot of air option if its what you want! Newegg usually have a fast shipping depending where you are! Lots of cooler master product. New kit cannot hurt!

>>51531155
3.5GB VRAM instead of 8GB.

>>51530970
I approve of these recommendations.

>>51530997
FX 6350 my nigga

>>51515561
6850 master race....

>>51515561
>>51531789
why didn't you idiots buy the 5870?
better performance and exact same price at the time..

>>51517802

970 owner detected