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>he hasn't upgraded to the great Windows 10 yet because

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>he hasn't upgraded to the great Windows 10 yet because of conspiracy theories
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>he "upgraded" for no reason at all
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>he doesnt like Le sleek Metro look :^)

Kill your family to be self honest
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>>51499770
thanks Vishal, I'll keep that in mind
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>>51499770
I've only heard bad things about out, from here, and from people irl who have used it.
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>>51499770
Would marry 8/10 I totally dig your look.

And dont do win10
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>>51499770
>>>/v/
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What if I can't be bothered?
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>nothing uses dx12
>don't want cortana botnet
for what purpose?
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>>51499770
is that janice griffith?
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>>51499797
It boots and works much faster.

>>51499803
Are you living under a rock? The start menu is back and you'll never see any Modern app if you don't want to
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>>51500113
The whole interface looks better and runs more smoothly.

Having Aero running doesn't decrease the performance of applications.

Some apps are quite nice, like the Mail or the Messaging app.

Has support for metered connections.

File Explorer with Ribbon is far better than the old one. The same with the new Task Manager.

Faster to boot.
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>>51500430
Yeah, but can I still use windows classic theme?
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I JUST upgraded to 8.1 from 7. Fuck off and give me time
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>>51499770
this entire board is conspiracy theories
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>he
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>>51499770
Windows 10 is shit and all reviews are paid

I can't believe this fucking shit I'm seeing right now. Stellar reviews all over the place for something that is LITERALLY, and by that I mean LITERALLY, LITERALLY the same shit as 8.1 except with a shitty meme start menu, different but still shitty phone tier unusable meme apps, and shitty meme assistant Cortana that mines your useless normie data. Oh, and a fucking ripoff of Expose from 5 year's ago Mac OS but with worse animations.

That wouldn't be all that bad but it is missing many features from Windows 8, most important one being COLORFUL TITLE BARS. Now everything is so white it will burn your retinas off, this is fucking ridiculous, you could always change that color in Vista, 7 and 8 but now you can't anymore because fuck you. You can't even change icon spacing for the desktop or pin shit to the left side of the start menu, if you disable recent apps it just shows empty space... WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU NEED THAT WHEN YOU CAN PIN TILES TO THE RIGHT HOLY SHIT EVERYONE IS GOING TO PIN HIS FAVOURITE APPS THERE GOD FUCKING DAMN IT I'M SO FUCKING TRIGGERED RIGHT NOW. And finally it's still full of fucking duplicated apps/programs like the new shitty settings, inconsistent icons, rough animations, shit's that early as fuck (Edge, are you kidding me with this shit? Literally IE but slightly faster in some shill benchmark and MS Paint built in because that's what everyone wants right? Being able to scribble shit on web pages, what's the fucking point?).

TL;DR I am surrounded by shills how do I stop this?

By the way I'm seriously considering switching to Linux or Mac, this shit is the last straw I'm so fucking done with this shit tier pleb os.
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You know when people sometimes say some shows are only good if you can turn your brain off? Windows 10 is one of thse shows.
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My experience so far:
- Hangs every now and then for a a fraction a second, apparently the network drivers cause this
- Calendar for my timezone is fucked, shows the wrong day
- Actually manages to be slower than W7
- Still can't customize start menu items
- Random spikes of HDD usage
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>>51500529
>not being win7+linux dualboot master race
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until windows stops infringing upon my privacy I shall never use it
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>>51500709
>not achieving nirvana by installing LFS as your sole os whilst running netbsd on your laptop master race
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>>51500709
>not being Linux single boot with vfio VM master race
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>>51500709
>booting win7
>willingly
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>>51500381
>It boots and works much faster.

>boots faster
Because it doesn't truly shut down.

>works much faster
Slightly slower overall actually.
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>>51499770
She looks like she is not supposed to be brown. As if she is trapped in her body.
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>>51500891
What a terrible fate.
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>>51500430
>looks better
literally the same as 8.1
>aero performance
I've never seen aero make things run slowly
>metered connections
no one seriously has a metered home connection, right?
>muh ribbon

>faster to boot
why would you ever shut down? 8.1 on my laptop boots in under 5 seconds anyways
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>>51499770
i'd put my dick through that ear hole thing :^)
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AHAHAHAHAHA FAGGOTS MISS OUT ON EDGE MASTER RACE
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>>51501630
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>>51501646
What's the matter?

Don't like ultra smooth browsing with great minimalist design? You love lagfox and RAMium?
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>>51500381
>The start menu is back

no it isn't

The win10 start menu is a fucked up Metro-wannabe. They force you to use tiles for shortcuts, instead of allowing you to edit the list on the left.
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>>51499770
any nuds?
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>>51499770
give me one good reason to upgrade from 8.1
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>>51500381
>It boots and works much faster.
Not it doesn't, Windows 8.s was the one that improved all that shit, it boots and works as fast as Windows 8.x
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>>51499770
there aren't theories.
there are facts.

Nobody talks about "if" but rather, we talk about how much.
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>install 10
>html5 videos stop working in all browsers

I went back to 7. Was too lazy to figure out what the problem was.
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>>51501800
>8.1
lol, comparing a botnet to another
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>>51500919
>8.1 on my laptop boots in under 5 seconds anyways
that's the solid talking
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>>51499770
>upgrade to Windows 10
>stutters a lot as compared to 7

Might as well do that once I get a laptop with touchscreen support
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>>51499770
>conspiracy theories
it was proven that micro-kike spies on you, you fucking faggot.
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>>51499770
Why should I listen to someone with blue hair?
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>>51500430
>The whole interface looks better and runs more smoothly.
That's a 8,x improvement

>Having Aero running doesn't decrease the performance of applications.
8.x...

>Some apps are quite nice, like the Mail or the Messaging app.
Same shit as 8.x...

>Has support for metered connections.
Are you actually using your PC with a metered connection? what a cuâ²¥k, also 8.x

>File Explorer with Ribbon is far better than the old one. The same with the new Task Manager.
Again, 8.x improvement

>Faster to boot.
Also 8.x

Everything you named was a 8.x feature/improvement, theres literally not reason to use Windows 10 when 8.x exist and doesn't ship malware ootb.
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>>51499770
>he's being paid by microsoft to post in 4chan
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>>51500529
Go away Linux/Apple shill.
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>>51500781
>>boots faster
>Because it doesn't truly shut down.
what?? please elaborate.
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>>51505888
Trips of truth
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>>51500529
Stay in W8.1 Enterprise and hide/blacklist the privacy infringing updates.
if you really feel the need to switch >>>/g/flt is a great place to start.
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>>51505932
It's the same feature as 8.x, is called fastboot or someshit, it's basically the same as hibernating but it doesn't save your session.
Windows 10 doesn't provide anything new, everything is the same as 8.x and since retards and normalfags skipped 8.x now they think is new and cool shit.
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>>51500529
nicely done friendo
>>51499770
get your throat cut open & bleed out on the sidewalk thanks
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>>653629767
>keylogger is tinfoil, and non-existent
>microsoft info share was only if you have the pre-release test version
>everything else, including microsoft edge/internet explorer can be removed.
is this true?

>>51505966
I see. Regarding the privacy-infringment matter, is win 8 better than win 10? to be honest I am tempted to buy a new laptop and install xp on it.
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>>51499770
>he let Microsoft hire himself to shill Win10 on /g/
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>>51506034
>Regarding the privacy-infringment matter, is win 8 better than win 10?
Yes, for a mile or so.
In Windows 10 is almost impossible to get rid of the privacy crap.
In Windows 8.1 all you have to do is hide some updates, nothing else.
I really recommend you to go with Windows 8.1 Enterprise, it's well supported and it doesn't even get some of the updates in the first place.
Also you can legally download the ISO from microsoft, and then crack it if you want to.
Microsoft Toolkit from mydigitallife is safe and tested.
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>>51506034
>is this true?
It's not, the services that were introduced by microsoft when windows 10 was in testing were kept in the release version and then microsoft backported them to w8.x and 7.
You cant remove them in 10 but at least you can just choose to not install them in 8.x and 7.
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>>51506034
>xp
not even browsers support xp anymore and you'll have lots of problems with drivers...
use win7 if you need windows and disable the auto-update shit. otherwise, try switching to linux after using it in virtual machines
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>>51505908
>says the MS hypershill

go lick your utter buttdevestation somewhere else.
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>>51499770
you can't upgrade to another OS, you can just upgrade one OS.
silly OP
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>>51501659
>>51501630

>MSshill tryhard
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>>51499770
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>>51506105
>It's not, the services that were introduced by microsoft when windows 10 was in testing were kept in the release version and then microsoft backported them to w8.x and 7.
>You cant remove them in 10 but at least you can just choose to not install them in 8.x and 7.
Oh crap. How can I make sure I don't get that shit in win 8 and 7? Right after I but this new laptop with win 7 or 8, what should I do or not do? sorry anon, I wasn't aware it's getting this bad.
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>>51505868
Windows 8 doesn't have a start menu and the interface is drastically changed in many ways, clearly you've never used Windows 10
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>>51499770
You don't get it.

I don't upgrade to Windows 10 because it's shit.
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>>51500381
quantify "much"

the only real reason to upgrade to 10 would be DX12, which is retarded because no game uses it yet
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>tfw updated to Win 10 and loving every second of it
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>>51499855
Remember, don't do windows 10 without a condom.
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>>51506529
Used Windows 10 the first day, and you're right the interface changed, for the worst, it's a clusterfuck with menus and dialog boxes with either themes from windows vista or new shit from 10, it's all a freaking mess.
At least in 8.x everything looks kinda the same.

As for the start menu it's the same, both the start screen and start menu serve exactly the same functions, and if you don't like it that's why startisback+ exist or classic shell.
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>mfw still with 7
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>ubuntu 14.04 amazon implementation
everyone, especially GNU/Linux users, bitch about it.
>mac os 10 Yosemite sending data to apple and MS
everyone including mac os users, bitches about it
>Windows 10
everyone, except windows users, bitches about it

why do windows users protect MS? is it just the shills or are these people actually /pol/s favorite word?
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>>51506945
Shills bro and /v/tards
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>>51506441
Here's an updated list with all the faulty Windows Updates, make sure you don't have them installed and if you do uninstall them, also hide/blacklist them so that windows update doesn't install them ever again
http://pastebin.com/nFvEfKqX

The list includes all the updates for both 8.x and 7 so you might never find some of them in your system.
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I just have Windows 10 with as much of the botnet shit turned off as possible, installed classic shell, works good in my experience.

If anything at least use 8.1 with classic shell and those other updates disabled. 8.1 and 10 have really cleaned up the OS a bit, apart from shitty interfaces, just the fact that I can clean install without any repartitioning is reason enough to at least go to 8.1.

I'm a wagekek who works at Office depot, fuck the normies' private info, IM GLAD Windows automatically does the updates now. If MS actually uses collected info to fix their shit then I don't give a fuck.
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>>51506441
try this tool https://github.com/Nummer/Destroy-Windows-10-Spying/releases
it helps a little in windows 10 and basically destroys all trace of spyware on 8/7
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They aren't conspiracy theories. They're conspiracy facts.
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>>51507140
yeah, its a fact that the os sends all of your keystrokes back every 15 minutes?

fuck off you tool
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ITT: pic related
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>>51507160
Actually we do know that for a fact, Microsoft says that it's for enhancing their auto correction crap but, everything gets send every now and then, please take a look at microsoft privacy terms for more information.
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>>51507193
prove it happens. and ms only says it is possible when using something like cortana.

just because the privacy policy says something generic doesnt mean you can say they are literally sending all of your fucking keystrokes back to them every day, that is fucking asinine
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>>51507160
>>51507187
Why do people like you even do this?
i meant whats your personal gain in defending something thats clearly violating your privacy?
Some people in this thread are overreacting? maybe, but there some true behind all this paranoia, services for telemetry recollection were added in 10 and then backported to 8.1 and 7.
If you don't care about yourself and your rights thats fine but don't bash the thread for people that actually mind about their rights.
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>>51507205
read the thread, theres shit around that prove this shit.
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>>51507257

>>51506219 isnt proof, it is cherry picked bullshit trying to fit in here.

let me guess, you think that youtube video where the guy uses the 'rsa decrypter' to show a screenshot of a program being install is real, dont you?
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>>51507289
What video?
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>>51507304
the video that was thrown around all the fucking time, lurk some more
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>>51507335
Sure thing buddy
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>>51507343
here you go you fucking dumb shit, cant wait to see you repost this like a fucking tool in other threads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQyapjh5w3U
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>>51507394
Ok kid
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>>51499770
CHILD DOSSIER IS THE PROOF
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>LMAO HE UPGRADE TO XP
>LMAO HE UPGRADE TO 7
>LMAO HE UPGRADE TO 8
>LMAO HE UGPRADE TO 10

From BBS to this shithole, this shittery never end.
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>ITT Win10 shill and tryhards try and "convince" the enlightened to get clucked and spied on.
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Would use Win 7 but the latest asscreed is much more fluid in Win 10.
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>>51507484
>asscreed
>Playing with shit
I want /v/tards to go
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>>51507484
[citation needed]
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>>51507484
it works better with win 8.1
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>>51507432
For the first time we actually have a reason senpai
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>>51505868
Full screen apps sucks, m8. That's the whole reason Windows 10 is an improvement over 8.
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>>51500529
The start menu used to be important to me but then I realized how superior SUPER+"first few letters of programs" is. I use my linux partition most of the time and I prefer to use Gnome 3 as a DE because it doesn't have a start menu.
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>>51507744
First of all, nobody uses apps in the desktop, i mean really you have win32 programs, why the fuck would you use winrt phone/tablet crap?
Secondly you can just set the apps to appear as a window with third party programs.
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Windows 10's latest update uninstalled multiple programs silently including video drivers. Fuck that noise.
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>unfocused scrolling
>windowed apps
>start menu
>snap resizing
>corner snapping
>virtual desktops
>action center

>b-b-b-but there's nothing better about 10!
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>>51508074
non of those things make 10 significantly better "anon"
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>>51500381
>works much faster

>work

>every college mate I'm working with has switched to W10 because it's all new and shiny and it has apps instead of programs so it must be better and 10 is more than 7
>they are rewarded with constant fuckups on programs like Ansys and Catia during crunchtime on our aerodynamics project
>be the only one who hasn't switched from W7
>literally "works on my system :^)" all day long
>effectively forced to do all the FEM simulations by myself because noone else can get their shitshow of an operating system to correctly handle remote licensing
totally worth it tho
what a pathetic trainwreck of a system
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I use Windows 10 to control my pedophilia.
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>>51507653
reason for what? your post makes no sense because it is unclear what "reason" you are referring to.
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>>51508113
>needing an OS to control an urge

keep trying 10shill
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>>51507864
>nobody uses apps in the desktop
I do, a lot of people do. Is super convenient in some cases. No buttloads of crap, just the OneNote app and you are ready to go. The Photos app is the best visualizer for Windows right now, and is easy to open an nfo or a cbz file with an app. I don't use flash, but I can check my network speed with an app. And the skype app is more lightweight and less clumsy than the desktop version.

>Secondly you can just set the apps to appear as a window with third party programs.
I tried, i bought them, they are shit.
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>>51508074
>tfw all of these things have been on GNU/Linux DEs for years
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>>51508298
>want to resize a window in linux
>have to literally fine that ONE pixel to grab to drag
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>>51508318
depends on the DE. also who resized when you can just use keybinds to automatically resize and position them?
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>>51508145
>keep trying 10shill
The spying keeps me from looking at candydoll
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>>51508298
all of the things have not been on GNU/Linux for years:

>good drivers
>professional apps like Abode Photoshop
>kwin using vsync properly
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>>51508968
You forgot
>Games
>Stable and efficient UI
>Font rendering
>Portable apps
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>>51509038
>Portable apps
um Tor Browser

>>51509038
>Games
There are games being ported

>>51509038
>Stable and efficient UI

bspwm, xfce4, openbox

>>51509038
>Font rendering

Infinality http://www.infinality.net/blog/

Don't be a scrub
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>>51508968
>good drivers
for non-gayming the drivers are good.
>professional apps like Abode Photoshop
there are a few missing but a lot of them exist (maya, gcc, latex...)
>kwin using vsync properly
well compton does and KDE is shit imo
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>>51508968
Drivers are not a problem for me. If you think they are because they slow down the system just use xfce, budgie or openbox.

>500 FPS with Minecraft, no bullshit

Professional apps (these are not apps but arbitrary distant binary blobs. Nevermind) are a good reason indeed, but the one you've quoted is usually used within Mac OS X.

Kwin is KDE's windows manager. Have you tried GTK ?
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Why do people on this board sperg out over someone else's OS choice? I mean, holy shit, it's like all of you are underage autists
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>>51509311
you're wrong, if we were all underage autists we'd all agree on linux being the best
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>>51509461
>uses an OS for gaming and art bullshit
>calls GNU/Linux users underage
top kek
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>>51499770
>>51500381
used windows 10 for the first time yesterday.. I just have to say its miserable how everything is moved and rearranged. I wont even talk about their whole "app" thing they are trying to do.

first off the startup section of msconfig is erased and moved to task manager, but the tab in msconfig is still there and only says "go to task manager for startup shit"..
Why go through the effort of erasing the stuff from msconfig and injecting the same code into task manager.

I can understand adding it to task manager, but they should have atleast left the functionality in msconfig aswell.

second, they are still trying to push this metro theme bullshit.. not as hard as windows 8.. atleast 10 has somewhat of a start menu.
all I have to say is my start menu should look like a menu, not some kind of abstract jumble of squares.

Third, the windows 10 install erased the backup partition or wherever the hell the restor image is supose to be stored and I wasnt able to find a way to restore the computer to windows 8.

further, even with their nsa style spying they still havnt secured the operating system in a unix like way.. the computer I was working on had well over 1,000 infections and couldnt even boot past login past about 10 seconds.

why are normie operating systems the ones that let you install shit like a kid in a candy shop, but all os's designed for "computer people" (or fags at starbucks) the ones that dont let you fuck them up unintentionaly
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>>51509076
>um Tor Browser
Oh, yes, that's a portable app. Did you know it has dependencies too? And these dependencies may or not may be in your system right now, it depends of the distro.

See, since there is no an stadarised system environment in all the most common Linux distributions, is pretty impossible to rely in portable apps without recurring to dependencies.

If... I have a computer, without internet access, and other, very far away with internet, is a pain in the ass to install or just add software to the isolated ones by just porting the software from the one with internet. In Windows, is just about storing a bunch of installers and portables.

>There are games being ported
You know what I mean when I said games. No fucking indieshit or gnu-clones. Please don't act as a fool. Wine can't solve everything.

>bspwm, xfce4, openbox
Stable? Yes. Efficient? Probably... in 1998.

>Infinality
I didn't knew about this. Thanks. But the problem is not the fonts, but the font rendering. X11 issues, probably solved by Wayland I don't follow that shit. Meanwhile, i t s u c k s.
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>>51499770
In lieu of the poo, there's always Linux.
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>>51510710
>You know what I mean when I said games. No fucking indieshit or gnu-clones. Please don't act as a fool. Wine can't solve everything.
shadow of mordor, all valve games, Civ V, Borderlands, witcher...
you don't know shit
>I didn't knew about this. Thanks. But the problem is not the fonts, but the font rendering. X11 issues, probably solved by Wayland I don't follow that shit. Meanwhile, i t s u c k s.
infinality changes font-rendering. and it's not even needed as the default font rendering on most distros is way better than the one on windows anyway.
again, you don't know shit.
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>>51510023
>>51510710
you nerds actualy believe someone is going to read or care about anything you just typed

lel.
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ITT fuckboys who don't know how to install Classic Start Menu to get the feel of Win7 and the faster bootup time of Win10
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>>51500529
>By the way I'm seriously considering switching to Linux
Do it. Linux has never been better, and it's finally a viable gaming platform assuming you don't need literally every AAA game.
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>>51510710
>I didn't knew about this. Thanks. But the problem is not the fonts, but the font rendering.
Infinality patches the font rendering libraries you utter retard.

> If... I have a computer, without internet access, and other, very far away with internet, is a pain in the ass to install or just add software to the isolated ones by just porting the software from the one with internet. In Windows, is just about storing a bunch of installers and portables.

You can download BD or DVD iso images containing the entire Debian repository for just such a situation, or set up a local mirror.
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>>51506118
>disable the auto-update shit
don't do this unless you're fine with public vulns
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>>51511008
I'd shitpost about "muh EXE's" but I'm sure you've heard a lot before, so just pretend I'm ranting about "muh EXE's"
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>>51511077
I'd shitpost about WINE but I'll let someone else do it
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>>51511191
I'll do it
WINE doesn't work
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>>51511259
sure :^)
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hijacking thread to ask question
i recently built a compy and loaded win10 using usb, used the stock product key to get it started but now i need to activate it. is there a key besides stock to activate it or do i need to use microsoft toolkit? and if so, where do i need to go to download a ms toolkit that isn't virus'd shit
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>>51511753
dunno, I pirated win7 and got that free upgrade that definitely has no piracy tracking malware or spyware installed with it so i dunno
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>want to buy a laptop for Black Friday
>they all have Windows 10
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>>51511926
>mfw my laptop still came with 8.1
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>>51511926
you can upgrade to windows 7 at any pc tech place, or on microsoft's website, or anywhere really if you aren't braindead retarded
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Installed Win 10 Ent on a spare laptop and honestly the ui is on point, but I can't get over the blatant spying.
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>>51499770
Sauce?
I love brown chicks with non shit features
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>>51512343
>blue hair
>non shit feature
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>>51508107
>they are rewarded with constant fuckups on programs like Ansys and Catia during crunchtime on our aerodynamics project
Basically this
I had never seen a Windows OS fucking up with so many programs since the first Vista release
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>>51507432
First XP releases were legitly bad, they broke everything and shit would never work, it wasn't until SP2 that shit became usable
No one bitched about 7, people bitched about Vista with good reason
Everyone knows what clusterfuck was 8 at first, and there's no reason for 10
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>>51510956
ITP some faggot that didnt know how to disable all the windows bloat on startup ot have a decent boot time
kekius maximus
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>>51511953
>mfw you think 8.1 is something to brag about
come back when you got a laptop thats got a legit copy of 7
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>>51512485
Yes that's unfortunate, also her stupid expression. It can't be helped, but you have to admit her facial features are quite attractive, despite the negatives.
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>>51501672
You can remove every tile and shrink the menu into the old regular menu you dense faggot
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