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Which Linux Distro for Noob?

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Dislike Mac, W10 privacy settings is freaking me out. So I'm moving to Linux as my primary do-it-all OS; still keeping a dual-boot of W10 just for gayming and other misc. shit. As a new venture in the world of Linux, what distro should I go with. The amount of Linux OSs is staggering, literal paralysis by analysis here.

TLDR:
Linux noob going to Linux.
Which Linux to pick?!
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>>51485560
Ubuntu
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ubuntu or mint are common choise for beginners
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Linux Mint.

The times I've used Ubuntu it has managed to shit itself randomly everytime.
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Xubuntu, mint, fedora.
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Architect
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>>51485590

Seconded. I love the idea of Ubuntu. Go with Mint.

And fuck that guy saying Xubuntu. Op didn't say his computer was an old piece of shit.

Fuck Fedora too.
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>>51485617
Why not fedora?
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>>51485560
Just stay with Windows, you're going to regret using Linux as a desktop OS
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>>51485560
>w10 privacy settings freak you out
>still keeping w10 on the same hard drive as linux

Nuke your hard drive and install linux.
Ubuntu is for shits, I started with ubuntu and got bored.
Install Arch, ditch the desktop environment, install i3, and learn from there.
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>>51485640
He's just meming
>>51485655
Whatever you do don't do this
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>>51485560
Win7 is fine for gaming. Ditch the w10. There are less then 20 games that use dx12, most of them are shit anyway.

For linux i would recommend Mint or Xubuntu.

DON'T install Steam Os. It's just a debian with steam and some custom x-server shit or something like that. Steam Os repository doesn't have a lot of software, so if you want to download more programs then you'll need to install them form packages in command line or add more repos yourself. I'm sure as linux noob you don't know how to do this yet.

TL;DR: Xubunu or Mint. Both are easy.
Steam Os is shit with 0 software bundled.
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I started with Fedora and that worked fine for me. One thing with Fedora though is that some things require a workaround to work but their forums are very helpful and has solutions for most problems
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>>51485560
Install Gentoo
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I've just done the same thing OP.
I went with Linux Mint on a 120GB SSD and then Windows 10 on a separate 500GB SSD for muh gaems, I've then got a mechanical drive for storage that both OS's can see.

So far I've found equivalent Linux versions for pretty much everything I need except for games.
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Arch is babbymode in timesink terms, start with it if you want to learn shit.

Put your home folder on a separate partition or drive so you can distro hop easily.
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>>51485655
No, by dual-boot I meant to completely separate SSD's. Sorry, left that out.

ALSO here are my specs if interested:
-MPower Z87 MSI Mobo
-i7 4770k
-780 ASUS Nvidia GPU
-32GB RAM Corsair Vengeance
-250GB MSATA Samsung 840 EVO
-500GB Samsung 850 EVO
-1TB WD Black
-3TB WD Black
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>>51485655
>>51485799
I don't even know anymore. Do you both have terminal autism or just trolling?
HE CAN'T EVEN CHOSE DISTRO HIMSELF AND YOU WANT HIM TO INSTALL ARCH?
Really?
He's clearly just want internet/music/movie machine that work out of the box. I'm sure he doesn't give a fuck about learning and customizing his os.
You sound like that autistic neckbeard with a pony t-shirt that tell grills at the party that he just installed gentoo with librecore.
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>>51485855
I'll admit, I'm not completely retarded when it comes to tech. I would say I'm OK. Terminal doesn't freak me out, and having the ability to customize and mess with shit sounds fun not scary; but I totally agree, I don't want to go all out ape shit. Chill Linux beginning, learning and gaining the ability to completely customize my desktop later on is an awesome plus. Only desktop customization tool I've ever messed with is Rainmeter.
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Go with Ubuntu, it's the best for beginners.
Then you can move on to Debian if you want a general purpose customizable OS.
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>>51485560

op, just try slackware.

Hear me out guys.

If you have enough knowledge to partition, which everybody here does, you are good go, with the possible exception of the boot loader, and until you can figure that out, you could always boot the install from the usb or cd.

I have fucked with ubuntu (almost necessary for ROS), and have messed around a little with systemd though screwing around with the intel edison. This stuff is not simpler for somebody with an oz of technical sophistication. Yeah your grandmom would be helpless editing a config file (with lots of comments), but everybody here can figure this stuff out.

If you install slackware with everything installed, you will end up with completely useful application stack without sudo apt-get install <bullshit>. Also the overall system is completely transparent in how it is working. It is not more complex, it is less complex.

But ultimately OP, no shit, try them all. The more exposure you have to the massive linux ecosystem, the better off you are.

I know you want to dual install, but I always recommend setting up a second machine. Even a lower end computer is going to be plenty fast to try this stuff out, and this way you have zero risk to your default install.

one man's opinion.
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Antergos is Arch Linux for human beings.
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>>51486006
Fair enough. I concur with trying them all. I just didn't know if there was one particular one to jump on first that would help lay a foundation of knowledge in later understanding all the other Linux distros.
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>>51485560
The most windows like distro that is also the easiest for beginners to use is mint. Once you learn up on linux feel free to move to a more complex distro after.
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>>51486178
So if you had to create a list of less complex to most complex Linux distro what would this list look like? I think i'm going to go with Mint btw, can I mess with learning desktop customization on Mint?
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>>51485560
go with openSUSE

>no file picker maymay
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Dumb question, but how do updates work? Like do you completely re-install the Linux distro with the newest update or?
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>>51486218

'complex' is a bad word in general. The ubuntu unity desktop is stone cold simple. There is a column of icons on the left to start the applications you want.

But what you are asking about the ability to deeply customize the system, which is something different. Here a simple, layered system would be an advantage.

But if you don't know where to start, toss ubuntu on it. You can even switch between different simultaneously installed desktop environments for your user account from one login to the next.

There are some gotchas with the implementation though. If you use different forks of a given environment and switch between them, the config files can get confused. (seen this with xfce). All still works, but you don't get the full experience of either derivative.
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>>51486385

It is different from distribution to distribution. In general though I think everything has online updates (even old school slackware).
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>>51485655
t. le ebin wizard l33t haxzor
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Try antergos, ElementaryOS, or Mint. All of these are very easy to install and work fully-featured out of the box. Don't use Ubuntu, it contains spyware and has the shittiest DE known to man.
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>>51485560
>W10 privacy settings is freaking me out

McFuckingKillYourSelf

Why are you idiots falling for the FUD and dank memes of freetards?
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>>51486571
keep living in denial, cück
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>>51485560
-Ubuntu
-Debian Stable
-Manjaro
Don't fall for the memes, pick one and you be the judge instead of /g/
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>>51486584
It has been been several months since Windows 10 was released. Where is the chaos and privacy violations that you niggers promised? Not one report or claim by any reputable source that would suggest telemetry went beyond its prescribed limits of collecting diagnostic data for developers.

You are the one in denial.
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>>51485608
Nice distro
>>51486006
Slackware is not newbie friendly
>>51486108
Antergos is a literal piece of shit
>>51486250
Good choice
>>51485655
Don't bother him OP, he's looking for attention.
>>51486553
Literally worst choices (except for Mint)
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>>51486250
this so much
opensuse leap kicks ass
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>>51486599
Part of the license agreement when installing Windows 10 is to allow Microsoft access to your personal data:

>Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary.

But your data is safe because you checked that "opt-out" box, right? Lmao
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>>51486682
IF you decide to use an MS account and its related services and apps.

The same way Google and Android access your phone data and contacts when setting up apps and services. The same way OSX does it only difference being they don't tell their users, its done behind the scenes.

Take off your tinfoil hat.
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>>51486766
Not the same guy but you need to understand one thing : You will never understand if you are a normalfag. No offence but not everybody here uses computers for social networks,porn and gaymes.
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>>51486766
Please leave, you are not contributing to this thread
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>>51486784
What do you use for PC for that makes you so paranoid that you are hesitant to use Windows? Are you doing something illegal?

>>51486785
The feeling is mutual
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>>51486811
Not really, I have suggested distros, probably unlike you.
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>>51486838
You didn't answer my question. You labelled me a normalfag and listed social media, porn and games. Windows can do everything Linux can with the exception of a terminal which was compensated by powershell. You can install Linux terminal on Windows. You can run Notepad++ and IDE's on Windows.

So what the fuck is it that you do that is exclusive to Linux beside autism and rice?
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>>51486811
>If you're doing nothing wrong you have nothing to hide!!

Some people don't like surrendering control of all their data to an outside entity.

By using Windows, you allow Microsoft to access all of your files and remotely install software without your permission. You can argue that it's not likely to happen, but the fact remains that they can do that whenever the fuck they want and there isn't shit you can do to stop it. Your data isn't safe if someone else has the ability to remotely access it at any time and for any reason.
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>>51485560
Linux Mint ofc anon.
http://linuxmint.com/
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>>51486857
That's not really me and you are now being presumptuous
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I had NEVER heard of openSUSE until now. Thanks /g/. I'm going to install openSUSE tomorrow morning on my big rig, and Mint on my laptop. As for the Windows rant going on, I've been a dedicated MS follower since Win95. I'm still going to keep up with MS as I am still despondently and sadly hoping for them to do something GOOD with their OS. Until more shit comes out in the light as to where MS is going, especially with Win10, I'm going to take a break from Windows. Still gonna boot it up to play shit on my Steam library, but thats about it. I honestly they do come out to the press with a statement about this privacy issue, and also heavily discuss and explain this "Windows As A Service" bullshit. I am not paying a monthly nor a yearly subscription for an OS. If that shit happens, I'm going full on Linux and my old pirated versions of W7 with the updates I pre-installed on them, which makes it nice cause they're incapable of getting any MS/Windows updates post 2013. Thanks again /g/ off to Linux land I go.
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>>51486766
>it doesn't even spy on you freetard/tinfoil/autist
>*proof presented that it spies on you*
>ok it spies, but why would you care

EVERY
SINGLE
TIME
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>>51486108
You misspelled Manjaro
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>>51486884
If you are on the internet and use a smartphone, your data is accessible and not safe. It has nothing to do with your OS if your ISP can see everything you are doing and can grant remote access to your PC.

Good luck mate.
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>>51486857
>So what the fuck is it that you do that is exclusive to Linux beside autism and rice?

Not that guy. oldfag passing by.

I have watched windows releases roll by for 20+ years, disposable api after disposeable api, bug after countless bug. Where has it gotten you? same shit different day.

If you took the time to learn a new approach, you could carry that useful knowledge with you for decades. I am talking things like 'c' and fork and select. That is the real strength of linux, it is a very available unix, with reasonably sound engineering underneath it.

I could understand back in the day running windows, because that is where the apps were. Now that most everything available is here for Linux, it is just madness to keep running MS. Don't send them your $, much less your data.
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>>51486892
Opensuse is great, but be aware that since it is not Ubuntu based, some advice you may find on the internet will not apply to you.
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>>51486917
I am not taking credit away from Linux for the things it can do. It was just retaliation for the all the FUD and Window bashing that is taking place on a daily basis for no reason. I just snapped.
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>>51486909
This is true, however, the privacy issue doesn't lie in your ISP as there is no way around it, but if law-enforcement wanted to check my records for whatever fucking reason, of course they COULD, they would however have to ask for permission and come directly to ME and say, let me see your shit on your computer. With the privacy t&a W10 has going on, they have access to all of your shit at all times, if law enforcement wanted to look at my shit, I wouldn't even know it until I'm either getting arrested or subpoena. They're also allowed to delete any files they consider pirated or bad. Basically MS has fucking direct access to my hard-drive. Thats fucking intense dog. Pointless in encrypting cause they key log your shit. I don't have anything to hide, I'm not paranoid at all, and I like MS but that shit is a whole 'nother level.
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>>51486892
great choice mane
http://opensuse-guide.org/
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>>51486960
>http://opensuse-guide.org/

Lets hope my hardware works with it. Ty for the link.
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>>51486892
the fuck man ,Steam is fully supprted on GNU/Linux
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Another dumb question, do all GNU/Linux distros have the same common commands and language when it comes to Terminal? Also are they close to the same commands as on a Mac? I know its Unix based but again, with all these different distros and my extreme lack of knowledge when it comes to Linux/Unix/GNU in general, I'm slightly confused.
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>>51487031
Mint and openSUSE? It has directx11 and 12? Does it work with my GTX 780? Could I max run Skyrim and shit like that on it? Serious questions.
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>>51487036
Yes, these are all bash shell scripting. Look it up
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>>51487044
From you Steam on Windows first see if that game is supported on Linux (SteamOS) if it is then it will run natively with no worries.
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>>51487064
Yeah... I'm going to have to go back to Windows for gayming. Sorryz. No Linux support for "Sunless Sea" and thats not resource intensive at all, GPU or CPU.
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>>51485560
Elementary OS
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>>51485599
>Xubuntu
This. Take the long-term release and be happy for the next year.
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>>51487090
If its not hardware demandable you can always check PlayOnLinux project. Seriously check their list , they are awesome.
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>>51485560
Here's the truth: Most distros are derivates of either ubuntu, fedora or debian (regular yearly or half-yearly releases) or gentoo/arch (rolling release). They all virtually run the same fucking software. It's a question of docks and sidebars and of system update habits.

Just look at the biggest, most popular distros and DEs, watch some videos to get a better idea of what's going on and if you like it install it. You can always switch it up later and the difference isn't too big anyways.

I actually recommend vanilla ubuntu. Modern, large community, good support, big company behind it (means the project won't die too soon).
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>>51487329
Here's the truth: Most (99,99%) people here do not know difference between distros. They only know difference between DEs.
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>>51487390
to be fair there often isn't too much of a difference. i mean all distros usually do is take the core system (kernel and some shit) and slap a DE and some package manager on it.

it would make a whole lot of sense if distros were just there to distribute one specific DE each. so much work seems redundant when you consider how shit has to be distributed differently on every different package manager and DE

so much work to do fucking nothing
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>>51486623
>Antergos is a literal piece of shit

Why?
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>>51487390

So what ARE the differences between the actual distros, as opposed to the DEs? Serious question. I've played around with Arch, Mint, Ubu, Debian, Crunchbang at various times and apart from the DEs, package managers and available packages, I've never really known what's different about the underlying system.
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Don't dualboot you will just go back
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>>51485560
For the noob, Mint and Ubuntu are really the only choices. Well... maybe pclinuxos.

After a year or so, once you know what you are doing, might want to put on your big boy pants and move to Debian or Slackware.
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>>51487960
You put some default programs and packages in there and a package manager and it's a distro. In my opinion it would be important to have every OS switched to Linux and just have the differences in distros. That way things could be a lot more compatible around the world.
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>>51487977
not really I started out on ubuntu then went to debian to arch and I also had a win 7 partiton during all that and I now only use it for one or two games, as long as you want to learn linux you will find windows being the weird one when you finally boot into it
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>>51485651
Without WINE that is.
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>>51487841
1.People call this distro "Arch for humans" because it comes with a gui installer and the kernel is Arch's
So, the whole distro is there just because of the installer.
The installer itself is seriously unstable and an example of BAD software design
>Poor choice of mirrors
>Installer is written in python and is really unstable. (Frequent I/O out of sync)
>Have to restart the install process once the update is finished:
Was it too hard to tell the user to wait until cnchi updates? Like saying "Updating, please wait?"

It comes with shitty bloats pre installed;
>Numix theme pre installed
>Display manager has a pre-installed webkit theme. IIRC it doesn't even let you decide which display manager to install.
>Icon pack pre installed.
Whereas it doesnt even come with yaourt.

The whole purpose of the distro was(as people like to claim): Install arch without pain - which can be easily done with the architect installer.
Antergos is useless
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>>51485767
This!
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Ubuntu were fine

It only breaks bcuz you tech fagatrons keep tinkering with it

>it's an operating system not a fuggin toy
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>>51491818
Pierre helped a lot of users for years now, on #ubuntu-fr* channels, he spend lot of time to moderate and give support on #ubuntu-fr* channels. He also use his skill in php/xhtml/css for the http://ubuntu-fr.org website and community. Great job Pierre !
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