/build/ - General computer building

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gvPPCJ
Going for a blue and black theme. Is this good?
Or is it worth buying regular 980Tis and installing a custom loop instead?

http://pcpartpicker.com/guide/xfmPxr/i5-4460-gtx-960-gaming-pc

I keep seeing this build around a lot. Is there anything wrong with it? I might just save myself the trouble and buy the whole thing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/3tufy9/build_help_rookie_pc_builder_needs_your_help_need/

No one on Reddit is helping a nigga out, so here's my build I've come up with

>>51478212
Just check some reviews for what 980Ti to get.
Fury X is very hard to give a recommendation on, I get wet feet if I see 4GB for a card that price.
>850 Pro
Just no. Just get the EVO. Don't be that guy.
>VIII IMPACT
Do you want shit price performance? No. No you don't. Get something cheaper that'll perform just as good.
1kW is stupidly overkill unless you're going to quad-sli.
500W for single, 700W for double. Don't overdo it.

>>51478335
Sexy build.
Well, if you got that much cash to spend I can't really complain.

>>51478503
It's actually a rather shitty build.
Overpriced motherboard that makes no sense. If you're going to throw 100 bucks at it make sure it's a Z97 at the very least.
4460 when the 4590 is about the same price.
PNY ssd? Just get a goddamn Samsung/Crucial for less.

Aside from that it's... Ok?
Not really fond of the core 1500 as well, imo not good price/performance.

>>51478611
Do you want me to give feedback or did you forget a part of your post?

>>51478984
>Well, if you got that much cash to spend
All of it is coming out of my computer/goodies fund that's been accumulating for 5 years. I will never buy parts from my yearly income now.

>>51478984
>Reviews for 980Ti.
Ok.

EVO? 840 instead of 850? Why's that? 850 got recommended to me last night.

The VIII Impact fits to my case and has wlan to it, I save money with it. Also comes up with soundcard and optical.

>>51479054
If you use all the features the board has to offer and no cheaper board can offer it I can see why you would get it.

850 Evo. The pro is too expensive, you're halfway to a 1/2TB.

>>51479045
Fair enough.

starting to build my rig and want to get a case and mobo first. any recommendations for cases that fit ATX mobo's?

>>51479104
Depends on how much you want to throw at it.

>>51479104
Phanteks Pro M
Fractal Design R4
Corsair Carbide 300

>>51479088
I save about 70 euros with the VIII mini itx mobo since it includes wlan and fits a case I already have and I have fairly expensive headphones (350e.) which would benefit from optical output.

Intel Core i3-4170
Asus H81M-PLUS
Kingston HyperX Fury Black DDR3 1866MHz 8GB CL10
Samsung 850 Evo SSD Series 120GB SATA3
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB SATA3
Corsair Carbide SPEC-02
Seasonic S12II 620W 80 Plus Bronze
Sapphire R9 280X Vapor-X Tri-X STD 3GB GDDR5

All for around €700. Good?

Also how's the Asus VX229H?

>>51479173
>700€
>i3
That's an instant no.

>>51479128
under 130
>>51479147
thanks ill look at those.

>>51479201
R5, Base 900, H440.

>>51479193

I'm only considering that i3 because it's cheap as shit and I've read good things about it

What's a better i5 alternative that won't be a lot more expensive?

>>51479225
4460/4590

>>51478984
Yes I'm looking for feedback on the build I have so far. I'm pretty sure my /r/buildapc post does a good job explaining my situation. What have I forgotten on my build other than a motherboard?

Is it possible to make any respectable machine for 700 AUD?

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taking suggestions
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7k6CTW

>>51479254
I can make a pretty decent 1080p-at-high-settings machine for around that budget

>>51479241

What about the other parts? I will admit I know pretty much fuckall about this stuff, especially motherboards and PSUs

>>51478212
>>51479173
>>51479270
>No M.2

>>51478335
Congratulations on your fine M.2 purchase

>>51479637
I'm beginning to think it's not worth the $250. My roommate's been trying to convince me not to get an M.2 at all because of its costs., but I have the money for it. I might as well.

>>51479736
Can you explain why you aren't buying this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VK0XMPE

It is faster and cheaper. Assuming your board supports x4 and nvme.

>>51479926
Z97M-G43 only supports M.2 x2, not x4. Drop it if you want an M.2 drive.

>>51479926
No point, it would be a waste if I can't use it to its full potential.
Plus
>samshit
You can't boot off of an SM951 on a Gigabyte board.

>>51480002
>Samshit
They are a bad SSD manufacturer now?

>>51480043
Google "SM951" and "booting Windows"

>>51480121
Does the 950 Pro have the same issue?

>>51480232
No, because it's a consumer SSD, not an OEM like the SM951 and XP941. It should have better firmware and full factory warranty, unlike the SM951 and XP941.

>>51480353
The 950 pro is slower and the sm951 is now consumer with the nvme version. That was the achi giving trouble. Also I have an lga 1151 board for this purpose which is more compatible with m.2.

>>51480464
>sm951 is now consumer with the nvme
Nope, in fact the NVMe SM951 has more compatibility issues with motherboards if you try to use it as a primary boot drive. Most Z97 motherboards don't have BIOS updates to support that NVMe drive as a bootable medium.

Hey guys hows this http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Cf2X8d

t-thoughts?
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/4v3hf7

Difference, and the relevancy of that difference between digital and modular PSUs? Particularly 700-800 Corsairs.

>>51480550
>Most Z97 motherboards don't have BIOS updates to support that NVMe drive as a bootable medium.

I agree, that's why I went Z170. Which I recommend if you want an M.2 drive. That said, if you have a Z170 board then you will have not problem getting the sm951 nvme to boot.

>>51480583
>>51480803
>No M.2

For gaming purpose how good are the Freesync and G/Sync in general

does it have a noticeable effect to it

i guess the game is already smooth as shit if im playing it on 144hz so these wouldnt matter that much

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
My budget is around 700 bucks. I mainly game, but the only real new game i play is fallout 4, and if i can get that to work on a radeon HD 7450, i think i can get it to work on a 750TI.

>>51481286
It depends on the game. A game like Fallout has a lot of micro stutter, which should really help. Other games probably won't matter at all. If your GPU can't handle the load, then it isn't going to help. I would say you are better off putting money into a better gpu before that.

>>51481411
>http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
>wrong link

>>51481438
Whoops, forgot i had to grab the permalink and not the one at the top.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9HT699

>>51481501
Phys X and Hairwork are useless trash

I got Titan X and I disable that useless shit called Hair-just-fuck-my-FPS-up-werks.

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>>51481501
the 980 ti is a great card, it can run anything i throw at it
and stick with nvidia, amd is for fags that are convinced amd is some magical underdog that's being sabotaged by nvidia when amd is just shit

>>51481501
970 is good, the only meme about it is MUH 4GB

Any experience with black Friday sales? It's so close but I have no pc and just want to order the stuff right now and get it ASAP. Im guessing popular cpus aren't really going to be on sale or a 390?

Have a fractal define r4 with the CD drive bay and both HDD bay's removed. Need some good intake fans preferably not memetua.

980ti or wait for pascal?

You people are not gonna believe this there ain't Vengeance LPX available 'here' within my country.

What are some recommended ram?

>>51482009
Literally almost anything else.
Speed doesn't matter unless you're using APUs.
Just get 8/16GB DDR3 1600 MHz G.Skill/Crucial/Kingston/Corsair. Avoid stupidly tall heat spreaders, they create clearance issues with your HSF and don't do anything for you.

>>51482152
Why DDR3 and not 4?
and how can I detect 'stupidly tall heat spreaders'

>>51482163
I'm assuming you're talking about DDR3 because that's what most people use but if you're going for X99/Z170 then you NEED DDR4.

In that case just get 2133/2400/whatthefuckever that's good for the price.

If the RAM has more than just heatspreaders and has actual fins on top then it's ricer block your air cooler shit.

How much of an improvement would another stick of ram make if I'm using a single stick of 8 gigs?

>>51482211
>likely dual if not quad channel mobo
>uses a single stick of RAM in single channel mode

WEW
E
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LAD
A
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>>51482211
In real world tests? Not much. There's a few videos/articles about single vs.dual channel. There is an improvement, but not by much.

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>>51482226
I like the sound of a wewlad% increase in performance.

>>51482206
VIII Impact is my motherboard.

>>51482261
and it requires DDR4.

>>51482261
>VIII Impact
Pretty expensive board. I've had good experiences with ASUS but the Z170-A costs less and has pretty much everything.

Just get some G.Skill Ripjaws. Against RAM of the same speed, lower CAS latency/timings and voltage is better, but it won't make any actual performance difference besides in benchmarking.

how bad did I fuck up here guys?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MKMLGX
already have power supply and storage

>>51482417
It looks fine. You can grab a CPU cooler later on in case you want to overclock, but right now you're pretty much set.

>>51482409
Like I said at the start the small motherboard saves me money by having wireless network adapter in it + fitting to a case I already own.

It is cheaper to me than buying larger mobo (that'd be cheaper because it'd lack wireless and wouldnt fit case > need to buy new case)

So is this as low as newegg is going to get with the Black November sale? Or will they also throw in more deals on the actual holiday

Either 600-700 to a monitor without G-sync but IPS and 144hz.

or blow 840e. on Acer Predator G-Sync 144hz IPS monitor

Basically what I am asking is G-sync worth of 200-150e? I've never seen it side by side with a G-syncless screen.

Tiny question on Windows 10: I just upgraded, and I can't seem to set default programs manually. Yeah, Windows has a list, but I can't hit "select another program," to set one that Windows didn't find. Nexus Mod Manager isn't even associated with .nxm files now

What are the most flexible psu cables I can buy? Tired of all of them being stiff as shit.

>>51482628
Not sure if they will work in your case but the Silverstone flat set is super flexible. It's how I manged to cram their 500w PSU in my NCASE M1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812162043

I swore they made a longer set or an extention but I'm probably just imagining it because I couldn't find it. Maybe another brand makes it.

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Is this worth 1500$ ?

>>51483209
>No M.2

>>51481478
AMD, MSI, Kingston

It is like you are trying to make a bad system for the money.

>>51483219
meh, doesn't really matter how physically large my drives are as long as I have a decent SSD that isn't costing me unnecessary amounts of $

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/czvBCJ

How's my build aiming for cost efficiency?

R9 290
R9 290x
R9 390

Which do I choose? Play 1080p atm but will be moving into 1440p within the life of the card.

>>51485417
290 and the 390 are the same card. get a 980.

>>51485432
I can't afford a 980, they're 400 dollar.

>>51478984
This is bad information, OP. Your system, if you get one graphics card, will consume a little less than 500W at peak, I'm certain because I have almost the same system. Buying a 500W PSU is a stupid idea. Get 750W minimum

>>51483383
someone?

>>51479270
For a few dollars more you could get a closed loop water cooler for your CPU which would be a noticeable improvement in terms of performance and aesthetics

>>51483209
>Canada
>$156 for an R4

A white R5 in America is much cheaper than that OP, surely you could have it shipped and save a few bucks? IDk

>>51483209

Why is Canada so expensive?

H80i GT to cool i5-6600K?

CANT FUCKING FIND HYBRID 980TI IN EUROPE THATS NOT AMAZON REE

I've never built a PC, so I need help staying in a decent performance for budget frame. I've already got the GPU mentioned in the build list here, as well as a 1TB HDD laying around so I don't need either of those. I'm just trying to stick around the $300 price point for the remainder.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/K4LtZL

So feel free to berate the fuck out of me as long as it leads me to a better price for performance standpoint.

Is performance-pcs trustworthy? I want to buy one of their Prodigy variants, but I've read some unflattering reviews about their business.

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This seems a decent place to ask - i'm also building a new machine and like fuck am I paying for windows, so what is the current /g/ approved way to pirate botnet OS?

Anyone have a recommendation for British surge protectors?

What mineral should I mine inside the cave tomorrow? I want to build an all bronze case but that might be too heavy to carry back from the quarry to my house.

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I just want to play most modern video games at high to ultra settings at 60 fps. Been wondering if it would be worth the extra hundred dollars to get a gtx 970 instead.

This is my first time creating a build, so any advice would be appreciated.

>>51479270
>Seagate
let me stop you right there

[spoiler]everything else looks good[/spoiler]

>>51488243

>K cpu
>stock cooler

You buy a K chip to overclock and thus will need a cooler to handle the additional heat.

A 960 won't do ultra at 1080p thats for sure.

>>51478212
Wait for pascal

Am I retarded for wanting to build a neat little G3258 microATX machine for emulation and controller based light gaming? I have a 5820k machine but I really don't feel like sitting at my desk with mouse and keyboard all the time.

Hey guys total noob here

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TxLtZL

I'm not really looking to do much with my computer, just some MATLAB and possibly emulate some games. Will this suffice or did I go overboard?

>>51488309
Cooler is noted.
Any suggestions on a good GPU?

>>51488243
4GB GTX 960 is a waste of money. Get the 2GB or a different card.

>>51488312
Steam link

>>51488380

Ultra 60fps is a tall order anon - some games just won't run at that due to bad coding or really demanding settings (SSAA for examples). At 1080p i'd consider 380x, used 290 or a 390 (I suppose the 970 counts but I think it is a fundamentlaly flawed card).

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>>51488330

At stock you don't need the hyper evo, but it will help for keeping noise down but lack of dedicated gpu for anything remotely graphically intensive is going to hurt.

>>51488488
I thought of that but I'm not crazy about the input lag I'd have to deal with over the wireless connection and I'd rather not have to keep my 5820k over 4.0 ghz just to run pcsx2.

>>51488559

4ghz is nothing with any sort of decent cooling.

>>51488568
I'm not really worried about the temps. 212 Evo keeps it under 42 pretty much all the time. My concern is that I have a pretty shit Gigabyte x99 mobo. It's actually being RMA'd right now because it died 3 months after I bought it even though I never OC'd my 5820k.

I guess I'm just burned out by the whole experience with that build.

stole muh thread idea :^(
- Don't see any value in the skylake i5 desu, just compare the passmark score with the previous generation, very little difference for big money. get the 4590 son
- As anon said, get the non-pro version of the SSD, pro is a meme.
- I wouldn't buy a PSU that big for efficiency reasons, try a 500 or 750 one instead.
- I see no price for the motherboard, are you getting it for free lol?

Also brought my negro build tg 29$ guys (core 2 duo E8400, dumpster motherboard working, 1 gig ram and 8 gb usb stick) woohoo!

>>51488740
>that pizza box-tier build

>>51478212
I have 980ti strix Oc in sli they're great tbqh

>>51479088
Why is the pro so much more? Performance doesn't seem much better.

>>51488777
checked, hell yeah, I should call this Pepperoni Pi or some shit, though the box will need to be tall so I can fit the fan.

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How bad?

>>51488971
Son, I am proud. Sounds like you followed all the good suggestions here

>>51488971

How much are the 380 and 380x's selling for you? The 280x is a beast but it is very old and does not support a lot of features the newer cards do.

>>51488971
You want two sticks of RAM so you can run in dual channel. ie 2x4GB, 2x8GB.

Other than that pretty nice build. 280x is a little long in the tooth right now. It's powerful but the 380/380x hang with it, use less power, and will have newer features.

Also that's a wack-ass monitor. 21.5" just seems small to me.

>>51489001

380s are 206-255 eurobux depending on brand and whether it's 2 or 4 gigs, the 380x are all like 460+ because apparently this site only has the 8 GB version

>>51489061
>21.5" just seems small to me.

I'd be sitting no more than 1 m from it, I think it'll be okay

I just hope I get lucky in the backlight bleed lottery and get a good one in the first try

>>51489080

Actually there's also an XFX 380 2GB for 198, and a 4GB one for 228

>>51488971
>21% tax

fuck

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/seinthebear/saved/cGWRsY

Motherboard arrives today, got the GPU and RAM from a friend for free, upgrading them both ASAP. Thoughts?

>>51489128
>I just hope I get lucky in the backlight bleed lottery and get a good one in the first try
The chance of getting a good display on the first try is very small. If it's not backlight bleeding, it's uneven luminosity, dirty screen effect or some other bullshit.

Debating on upgrading my 2500k while the 4690k is $40 off. I've already bought a case and GPU so this is what I'd have: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PYNRcf

Thoughts on mobo/PSU?

GTX 980s are currently on sale for about $350-$380, should I pick one up? GTX 560 TI atm here. I was considering a 970/290(390) but the performance is too low for what I require, or a 980 TI but I'm not sure if I'm comfy splurging that much money on a top of the line card when the 16nm cards are coming out next year.

>>51489282
>Debating on upgrading my 2500k while the 4690k is $40 off.
No. Get a good air cooler and overclock the shit out of your 2500k. Instead of buying the 4690k, get a 500gb SSD or something.

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What the hell case do I get to match this?

Is the 4GB of VRAM on the Fury (air-cooled, not Fury X) going to be an issue at 1440p? I'd get a 980ti instead but currently there are no Gsync monitors that interest me.

>>51485864
>>51485806
Our dollar is much lower value is all. 1500$ CAD is only about 1120$ USD

>>51489725
talk bout lower value, Hybrid 980 TI in Finland costs 900 euros when it costs something like 620 in Newegg...

>>51488971
>Asus ips

enjoy the bleed

>>51489815
What 144hz IPS 27" WQHD

>>51489831
would you recommend GOD IAM TIRED

>>51489440
mITX

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Could use some advice, around 1200 total
I'm going to stay with the 970, had some bad experiences with radeon.
Is the motherboard a good choice?

>>51485417
Can anyone give me an idea without telling me to buy Nvidia which I can't afford and don't want to deal with after the 3.5 scandal.

>>51489986
Also, is an AiO watercooler for the CPU really that much quieter than a good fan?

>>51478212
What kind of fucked up shit is this and why has nobody mentioned any of what's wrong with it.

>-Overkill power for the future sli or crossfire
nigga you have an mITX Board
> 240mm AiO Cooler
nigga you have an mITX Board
>1000W PSU
nigga you have an mITX Board

Not to mention that all the RoG boards are overpriced as fuck, especially the mITX version. Get a Samsung 850 Evo instead of the Pro, its almost 50€ less and you will not notice the difference EVER. Also switch the PSU for something around 500W Gold.

>>51489986
Why not get a 4790k, they are on sale for 299 right now.

>>51490279
Not in Germany, at least I didn't found any. They're still 350 here

>>51490310
Ah

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Should be around $485 when you factor in the processor/mobo combo savings from Microcenter.

How's this looking?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Lt4699

>>51490499

Ideally you'd want a 4gb 380.

>>51490569
Eh, the 380 likely isn't powerful enough to see much use from that extra 2GB. Plus, I got a pretty damn good deal on that model.

If that's the only critique, I'm pretty happy desu

reposting again
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/4v3hf7
thoughts?

>>51490676
I'm so sorry about those prices. I hope they're just examples and you don't actually have to pay so much.

Looks good, besides:
>Windows 7
>170 euro corsair keyboard

My computer is getting a little old now and i would like to update it a bit, low cost as possible.
Going to upgrade from an i3 to an i7 and add an ssd. My question is should I update my motherboard; it is a budget board and I don't really know if upgrading is necessary as well. It is an asrock b75 m

can i play fallout 4 with an A8-7670K?

>>51490737
i can probably get it for 100-200 euros cheaper from local (web)shops and i won't be having so much shipping costs
other than that what's wrong with w7?

>>51490756
That board doesn't support 4th gen core iX processors, so if you want something newer than Ivy Bridge (i.e. 4790k) then you'll need a new mobo.

>>51490803
I see, will I be fine with an i5?

>>51490802
It's a six year old OS that doesn't support DX12. It's also not botnet free, if you're an autist about that sort of thing.

Just pirate or buy a cheap w10 key

>>51490815
Same deal, Ivy Bridge is the newest you can go. If you can get a good deal on an i5-2500k and then OC the shit out of it, that'll likely make a big difference without needing a new board.
Although, I'm not sure if that chipset allows overclocking.

>>51490839
Ah I see, thank you. And nah, it doesn't allow overclocking unfortunately. Thanks for the advice

>>51490614

The 4gb 380 doesn't get murdered as badly as the 2gb version in the latest and greatest games. It isn't that it can use 4gb per se, its that it has more than 2gb.

See: why powerful cards like the 770 are failing behind as they hit the vram wall due to modern memory bloat.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3KPp6h
can /g/ tell me if the ram and mobo i chooses are a good choice?

>>51490881
I believe you, but the chances of finding a 4GB version for the same price are slim to none.

I already have a much more powerful computer. This one was built as an htpc/light gaming/facebook machine for my parents and young sibling.

As long as it can pull 1080p60 with console-level graphics, they'll be more than content. No sense spending an additional $50 for something no one will appreciate.

what do you guys think on this build?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zk3qt6

I have my doubts in the motherboard and the monitor are not what I want to take, but very close.

I want to stick to 1920x1080 60fps at high specs gaming for the next years, and I think I won't OC in a near future.

Hey guys I am thinking about building a new PC and giving the one I have now to family when the time comes.

I have been out of the loop for a good 2 years or so and the only thing I've heard was to wait for pascal that will be coming out next year. Should I wait till next year before I start getting parts or should I take advantage of black friday coming up and get some now?

Budget is not an issue, but I want to utilize what I buy as opposed to just getting the best of the best. It will be mainly for gaming.

>>51491601
Next year, but some parts that would be a fair purchase now would be a high quality power supply if that's what you're planning on getting. By high quality I mean like a Seasonic or EVGA gold /platinum PSU. If you find a good one that suits your needs and is on sale for a good price get it. If you just want a bronze, those are always on sale at one manufacturer or another so no need to bother.

>Skylake CPUs will get cheaper. Haswell will phase out.
>Motherboards will improve, at least in software. Z170 is pretty spotty right now
>SSDs will get cheaper and faster, then change to M.2 or PCIe

Any black friday deals worth taking up?

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>>51478212
Hows mine look /g/ did I do guuud or did I goof?
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8sTg99
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8sTg99/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($116.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($179.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($138.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GT 740 4GB Superclocked Video Card ($96.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($156.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($106.24 @ Amazon)
Total: $1175.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-23 14:22 EST-0500

Building a Hackintosh for my YouTube video production

Why do cheap cases have to look ricey as fuck with all them windows and led fans and plastic edges and shit?

Short version of question: Using a PSU calculator, it said I'd currently use 502w of my 520w PSU if I were to get a new GPU(i.e GTX 950 or something), would that be cutting it too close or does it not matter unless I decide add another HDD or something?

Long version: I have an MSI Z87M Micro ATX Intel Motherboard, Intel Core i5-4590 Haswell Quad-Core 3.3 GHz LGA 1150, 1 stick of ram, 2 SATA HDDs and an ATI 5770. Would I blow something up if I decide to get a new GPU but it just so happens to draw more power than my 520w PSU can supply? I'd rather not deal with buying a new PSU and GPU at the same time right now and I really don't care to game at ultra high settings.

>>51492029

Get something a bit more powerful now so that you don't have to buy a new PSU if/when you upgrade the graphics card.

>>51492012

Probably because people who cheap out on a case want to look like they have just signed up for xbox live.

>>51492029

If its a quality psu it should take it, but >>51492059 speaks wisdom.

I have ~$150, don't need HDD, and don't play many video games. What do I do?

>>51492074
>>51492059

I built this PC back in probably 2008 and it's a modular Corsair PSU. Damn, was hoping I wouldn't have to spend additional $ unless I really decided to cheap out and just get a 750ti since it doesn't need a pci-e power connector

>>51492101

Buy a guitar or some shit?

>>51492117

Well 50w of headroom isn't much but like I said, a quality psu will take it when you are talking something like a 950.

>>51491058
In that price range you shouldn't be getting a locked chip. Skylake sucks. Get an i5-4690k for a similar price and something like an MSI Z97 Krait for your motherboard. Same price better chip. It turbo boosts to 3.9GHz even if you don't plan on OC, and it keeps the OC option open which you will appreciate when one day you do it and kick yourself for being so scared of an unbelievably easy thing to do these days. You motherfuckers don't even have to OC the frontside bus anymore or balance RAM and CPU clocks. Literally all you have to do is change a number to 45 and go to the voltage and hit + on the numpad once and that's it.

Speaking of which, at that budget you should be getting a cooler. A noctua D15 comes to mind. CM Hyper 212 EVO is a cheaper but louder alternate.

You didn't select a power supply. If you plan on NEVER going crossfire, the EVGA nex Supernova 650 is fairly priced and fully modular as well as high quality.

Is that SSD actually that fast? You can get a SATA Samsung 850 EVO 500GB for less money.

How well did you research those monitors? They're not good. Only HDMI and VGA output. Also your GPU only has 1 HDMI out and no VGA. Something to look into is the ACER H236HLbid. They have HDMI and DVI inputs so you can connect 1 HDMI and 1 DVI. There might be something better though. Ask around for monitors but take it with a grain of salt because most people are retarded when it comes to giving advice about monitors.

>>51492152
I paid $2400 for my guitar. $150 really doesn't mean anything.

Hi I'm new to all this and just coming by for Black Friday tips. Don't know much about tech related things but I need to upgraded a toaster and want to make sure I buy hardware that is compatible with each other. Do sites like PC Part Picker automatically filter your motherboard results for compatible ones after you pick your CPU?

Also if I wanted to run a game like ARMA 3 which is really CPU intensive, would it be better to shell out more money on an i7 or is this "you only need an i5 for gaming" thing I hear about true? Because in that case I'd wanna look into an I5 6600k.

>>51492193
yes

as along as you know exactly the motherboard that is in your pc, it will automatically filter to what is compatible as CPU/RAM/GPU etc..

>>51492185

And here I am still rocking this 8 year old Stagg that can barely hold tuning for a day and whose pickups sound like ass

>>51491968
Unbelievably stupid GPU choice. Overpaying for PSU. Unnecessarily expensive case. Overpaying for HDD (if you want speed you can get 2 1TB blues in RAID 0 for less money and faster speed). Questionable RAM choice. Shit motherboard and microATX.

You're probably fucking with us on purpose. If you aren't, well I wish I could help you but I'm getting off break and I don't be home until 6:30 CST so if you happen to be here in this thread at that time let me know somehow.

>>51492193
Check out the sales and buy it the week of .Keep your receipt go back after black friday as for a comparison refund.Ignore all the mess of black friday.
Almost every company does this,even online.If they sell it at a later date(normally 7-14 days check the store) they will refund you the difference
Source:7 years in retail

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>>51492168

>noctua D15

There are cheaper alternatives to the king of air cooling if money needs to be saved, such as pic related, that phanetks thing thats un pronouncable, the cryorig R1 ultimate, be quiet! dark rock pro 3 etc etc.

>>51492193

An unlocked i5 will be enough.

>>51492252
A better guitar like the one I have is nice but not necessary. I get compliments on the sound every time I go to some music shop to fuck around because it definitely does sound better than anything I've played and feels better. You get what you pay for. I don't even use an amplifier. I use studio monitors and plug my guitar into an audio interface and run Amplitube, amplifier simulator software. It's easily the best solution I've come across for modern guitar. You can (if you pirate everything) get basically any sound you'd ever want and manipulate it digitally, unlike you could with a real amplifier. It sounds perfect and is much more convenient.

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>>51492269
>>51492261
>>51492218
thanks!

Just need a rig that can stream 1080p60 and browse.Want to move my old rig to a 20tb NAS and just serve video.Don't need gaymen
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/y2Y7Vn
Anything i should swap out? $200 would be ideal

>>51491968
>GeForce GT 740

Anon it's almost 2016.

>>51491831
thank you

>>51492320

Of course I don't need a $2400 guitar, but something like a $600-700 one would be nice. Just something that I don't have to tune every day and doesn't sound like shit no matter what you do, you know? The rhythm guitarist in my band (I actually play drums these days) got a '81 Les Paul for about $800 at a pawn shop and the lead got a $1100 PRS for $700

Yeah I know about Amplitube.

Best non-reference r9 380?

Are ports other than HDMI really necessary? I don't really know jack shit about monitors, the one I'm looking at only has 2xHDMI and one D-sub, whatever that is

What would you recommend that's under €150 and still decent?

>>51492540

To a degree the only port that matters is displayport - it does everything HDMI does but better.

>>51492559

But I haven't found any budget monitor that has that shit

Do the different ports like HDMI, DVI, D-Sub etc have different image quality or something? I know HDMI also carries audio

>>51492700
Display port is meme for 144mhz
Just stay with HDMI

>>51492700

>Do the different ports like HDMI, DVI, D-Sub etc have different image quality or something?

Inherently no, but its tied to bandwidth. As in, displayport 1.3 (iirc) is good for 4k 60fps and is very common, hdmi 2.0 is required for 4k 60fps on a single connection and is much less common.

The various analogue connections are depreciated tier and should never be considered.

>>51490266
Corsair 250D mini ITX & MG279Q Asus.

Asus Z170I Intel Z170 LGA 1151 mini-ITX mobo.
.
Kingston HyperX FURY DDR4 2666 MHz CL15 2x8GB.
Intel Core i5-6600K 3,5 GHz LGA1151
EVGA GTX980Ti Hybrid
Samsung SSD 850 Evo 250
Corsair AX760i
Corsair Cooling Hydro H80i GT
?

is this better

Does ram speed actually matter?

>>51492700
Avoid VGA ALWAYS if you can help it
ALWAYS ALWAYS use displayport if it's available
If you don't need display audio, use DVI over HDMI because some implementations of HDMI are bad and because it has no locking mechanism
If you don't have DP or DVI-D or you need audio but don't have DP, use HDMI

>>51493095
probably not to average end user meaning movies internet music gamese etc.

>>51493095
If you have to ask, you aren't doing anything in which RAM speed would matter to you. If it did matter for your workload, you would know already.

The only exception is if your are using an APU/IGP (aka you don't have a dedicated video card) like in many laptops. In that case it matters a lot.

Does this mean you should pay $35 for 1600 sticks when you could get 2300 sticks for $40? No. Don't be stupid. Even if you won't notice the difference much, it's fucking $5/$10

R9 380 OC Nitro Dual-X 4GB or 280X Vapor-X Tri-X STD 3GB?

Both Sapphire, price difference 6 yuros.

>>51493095

Generally no, FO4 likes fast ram but for 99% of vidya ram speed and timnigs are irrelevant.

>>51493333
380. If I'm not mistaken 380 is actually a new chip while 280x is a rehashed 7970. Also more RAM

>>51493578
the 380 is a rebranded 285

is there even an amd product other than the top tiers that isn't a rebrand at this point

>>51493639

If it isn't broke don't fix it. Hawaii shows this.

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How's this?

>>51493578

The 280X is better at almost everything
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-380-vs-Radeon-R9-280X

>>51493676

>hyper evo
>R5
>sapphire 390
>supernova psu

Fucking impeccable taste anon. That said depending on how balls to the wall you want to overclock your cpu a twin tower cooler might be a better option. By balls to the wall I mean 4.5ghz+.

>>51493714
>5400RPM
>2.5"

>>51493764

So? The SSD will be the boot drive.

QUESTION: If I am buying a gaming pc, and all the parts separately over a few months, can I hold off on upgrading my gpu till last and throw my current HD Radeon 6950 in there and still run games decently at 1080?

>>51493969
If it runs them now

why wouldnt it run them later on

>>51494008
because it doesn't. my CPU is absolute shit tier and computer is really old so stuff runs decently at best. If I put it in a fresh new upgraded system will that change?

>>51494030
Well you might get depending of how CPU intensive the game is boost or some.

but your age old GPU will bottleneck it hard.

>>51492012
>'cheap' case
>Looks like some prebuilt generic case
>'nice' case
>looks like it's going to transform at any moment
Where are all the middle of the road won't-cut-you-when-you-pick-it-up cases?

>>51493676
Jesus that is almost exactly the same build I've been thinking about but I keep flip-flopping between a 390 and more expensive GPU's because I want to play at 1440p, possibly with an ultrawide.

It's a good build though, isn't it? Pretty cost-effective but still powerful.

>>51494115
2muchy money put to case in >>51493676

>>51494144
I wouldn't get the windowed R5 but I'd still get an R5 because it's a great case.

>>51494203
its nearly 8% of the enter build.
i'd shave siome off the case.

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Should I order everything off amazon instead of newegg when prices match? I've never known newegg to not be a pain in the ass when it comes to returns and customer service.

>>51494250

Counter point: the R4/5 is the only case all of /g/ agrees is amazing.

Help me pick a marriage destroyer, focused on programming, but also gaming.

Budget: high, but not insane, so no 4x Titans.

So far, this is what I've picked: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WWzz4D

Tell me what to change, this that are fixed:
- 2x Fury X, scales better than nvidia
- The monitors (unless there are 4K ones at around 24" with freesync, which I didn't find).
- Keyboard & mouse, I'm just a huge faggot, those are the ones I like

>>51494476
> this that are fixed:
I fucked up while typing, I meant:
> those parts are fixed:

>>51494476

24 inch kinda defeats the point of 4K

>>51494511
No it doesn't. It looks incredibly good. I already have those monitors, but I'm moving elsewhere so I'm gonna buy new ones and leave these at home.

Trust me, the text is so sharp it cuts your eyes.

>>51494511

No it doesn't. You're one of those folks that think 1920x1080 at 60 inches looks good too huh?

>>51494476
Quick note: I might add another Fury X in the future, so I need a case that can hold all that

>>51494609
Why Fury X instead of 980TI?

>>51494629
AMD just scales better from the benchmarks I've seen. I do have a 980 Ti in my current desktop, tho.

>>51494640
Have you tested both Fury X and 980Ti in general use, movies, every day use and games? Could you write some cliifs?

Even from 980 Ti if you could.

>scales better.
in DX12 things or that Ashes? Those weren't even done on Fury X IIRC.

I have an FX-6300 and a 2GB HD 7850.

For the first time (that I noticed) I am struggling to run games (I have to play on a lower resolution on Low for Star Wars Battlefront)

Would a new GPU fix that or do I need a new CPU as well?

>>51494667
I don't have a Fury X, only a 980 Ti. The build is for what I'm gonna buy at where I'm moving to (some shithole in Oregon).

At 4K I can run quite a few games at 60 FPS (Battlefront most recently, but had to run it fullscreen instead of borderless).

I'm talking about scaling in relation to how much an extra card helps. It seems that AMD scales nearly linearly, while NVIDIA you usually get only a 50% boost with a second card.

>>51494720
What monitor do you use?

>>51494760
2x P2415Q

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>>51494476

>>51494765
how good it is? I'm looking for IPS 144hz myself

>>51494793
It's 60 Hz without freesync. For programming it's great. The text is very sharp, if you haven't used something with such a high dpi before, it'll take a month to get used to such a good display. Overall, I liked it a lot, just wish it had freesync :(

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>>51494787
>>51494787
I regret absolutely nothing.

>>51494846
>73 C idle

dude... dat airflow brah

>>51494787
Thanks dude. Difference seems small enough. I'm still kind of edging towards two or three Fury X though.

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>>51494854
I REGRET NOTHING

>>51494889
You better call your insurance to make sure it covers house fires.

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>freesync monitor
>nvidia gpu
why are people doing this

>>51494846

>Two Nvidia cards to get to the idle temp of one AMD card
Why do people defend AMD again?

>>51494938
Bitcoinfags.

>>51494938
You mean, why people defend nvidia, right?

>>51494895
G-sync could also work, but I don't quite like it for being proprietary

Is this best £650 build possible?
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/JgqxwP
Posted it 2(?) threads ago, was hoping that different people would be in this, hence differing opinions.

>>51494707

The 7850 is too shitty for most 2015 games

The CPU might still be usable for a while

>>51494895
Freesync monitors are cheaper and people don't want to go AMD, I guess? It's really fucking dumb that people have to tie a monitor with a GPU because of Freesync/G-Sync co-existing, I want there to be one adaptive sync for all monitors and leave it at that.

>>51494876

Unless you are going to overclock a bunch of 980ti's to make up the difference once you hit 3 cards AMD reigns king.

Downside of 3 fury x's: having to get all their radiators mounted in the case.

>>51494889

Jesus get those fuckers in a loop.

>>51479173
fuck no, i just picked up a fx 8350, an asus mobo (can't remember the model) 16gb 1866 and a r9 380 for around £430. you coukd do a lot better than that

>>51495085
What the fuck is a loop for sli-GPUs

>>51495095
How do I make a loop? Again, I'm a huge faggot that has only ever had 1 GPU at a time before.

>>51495095
>>51495110

2 water blocks, a pump, some fittings, a radiator and a bunch of tubes.

>>51495138
How much would that be? And don't you have to unscrew and do a bunch of shit to get them to fit the GPU?

>>51495149

It is just unscrewing the shroud and heatsink - dead easy. As for cost? Well it depends on how big you want your rads, poump, resevoir etc etc but you have tow titan x's so cost is not an issue.

What a custom loop will allow if you to monster overclock your cards AND have them run at mid 50's under 100% load.

>>51495193
I don't really like overclocking since I'm a huge faggot, so I assume I can just use stock and put those Fury X radiators on the case?

>>51495216

The fury x cooling is essentially a mini custom loop, doing it yourself will give you pretty much the same setup with the added advantage of having both gpus connected to the same radiator.

Okay so, I have this so far:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yJP2P6

Anything that needs to be changed?

>>51495289

You'll want to double check the amount of fan mounting space that case has as 4 radiators takes up a lot of space.

>>51495289
That fucking Apple keyboard you faggot.

What do you do for a living if you need CrossFire 3x Fury Xs?

>>51495091
>AMD processor

kek, his i3 is a better cpu for gayming

also the 280x is better than the 380

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>>51495340

Whatever you say buddy.

>>51495331
The GPU radiators are 3x 120mm, the case supports those on the top, plus the CPU one that I'll probably put in the back to replace the stock one.

>>51495335
I am a faggot with too much money on my hands for living, I'm probably only getting 2 for now, perhaps upgrading later if I notice any fucking frame drop.

>>51495376
>>51495376
You dont need crossfire fury x for work and still get it?

>>51495401
I don't need it. But like I said, I'm a faggot. There's no counter argument to that.

>>51478212
get a G2 power supply, 750w is enough.

get a cheaper mobo, you don't need that over priced shit.

get an EVO not a pro.
a Noctua NH-D15 might be a better cooler for you.

use money you saved to get a i7.

as for the Fury vs 980TI.
980TI is faster, but the Fury is close behind, I would personally get the Fury non x and unlock it and overclock the shit out of it.

>>51495376

That AIO is 240mm so you'd have to mount it either on the top or at the front.

>>51495425
Oh. It'll go on the front then. Thanks! I might even get a 120mm one since I don't need that much cooling for the CPU.

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>>51495446

Option B is the likes of the Noctua D15 or Cryorig R1 ultimate. Just as good at stock speeds and generally just as good for most overclocks.

>>51495485
What about this one? http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rrb10212pg1

I'm only going to run stock anyways.

>>51495501

At stock any old cooler rated for 120w will be more or less silent under load - your cpu has a TDP under 100w.

Something like the D15 or those 240mm AIOs are built to handle chips like AMD's 9590 which is a 200w behemoth.

>>51495535
Thanks!

Updated build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qnFBCJ

what's this I hear about the 380 not being able to actually use all its 4 gigs of memory? is it because of the 256 bit bus?

>>51495580
You mean 970? It's because of a bug

>>51495544

The /g/ approved low end cooler is the hyper 212 evo.

>>51495580

Its bullshit - the 256bit bus provides enough bandwidth for it to handle 4gb as well as any card in that performance tier will.

The 960 on the other hand.....

>>51495600

The 970 isn't limited by its bus width, its due to the pants-on-head retarded memory lay out which is no bug - its a design choice.

Bugs can be fixed, the 970 cannot.

>>51495600
It's not about the software.
It's about the hardware. It has 3.5 GB of VRAM, and 0.5 GB of shitty VRAM that has a low bandwidth.

>>51495413
see >>51492972

better?

>>51478212
Top cards are retarded buys right now. Get yourself a 380 and get a top-tier card when the next gen comes out.

>>51495623
Whats up with the 960? (I'm doing build ideas with either 960 or 380 and I'm torn)

>>51495713
I have enough money to spoil myself with new PC now, not sure if I have enough to spend around next year this time.

>>51495732
Make a smart decision and don't spend what you don't have to

>>51495544
That case looks meh, Spending that much get a 760t, 780t, Enthoo Luxe, or cosmos. Match your board with the Fury X, like a Maximus VIII. Water cool it and get red custom tubes just because you're spending 4k anyway.

>>51495768
Ẅhy Maximus VIII to go with Fury X?

>>51495732
Next generation of cards will be on a new node. It's worth the wait.
If you have the money now, you can have the money later. Keep it in the bank.

>>51495768
I want to spend 4k, not 6k, brah.

>>51495791
Because its black and red.

>>51495803
They will also cost more once again, esp. high end GPUs their price just rises and rises despite Nvidia not really giving a good performance

fucking Fury X beats Titan X in sli vs crossfire 4k

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Ok so, without having to make another thread, i will use this one. It seems my graphic card went bust today, i turned on my pc after a blackout and it showed nothing on my monitor. But i could still hear it initiating. After removing the card, and using the mobo graphics, it functioned normally. Just to make sure, this is a graphic card issue right? Not my power source/motherboard that got burnt out or something since everything else works normally?

Also should i get a strix gtx960 to replace this one? I'm kinda scared my pc going to throttle since everything is so old.

>>51495821
More like maybe $200 extra.

>>51495728

As a rule the 380 is the faster card - especially the 4gb versions.

4gb 960's very rarely offer the performance increase the price justifies.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1888-evga-supersc-4gb-960-benchmark-vs-2gb

Note: They don't say if these cards are running at identical clockspeeds.

>>51495875
I don't care how pretty it looks, as long as it works

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This post is perfect for me at the moment, I've just about finished researching into which GPU I'm going for, and it's going to be the GTX 980 Ti by MSI, but that's about as far as I've gotten. I'm on a 2k-ish (£) budget but no idea what MB, CPU and PSU to get, much less the RAM either way but still, mainly thinking about the CPU which would best reduce any bottlenecking (ha).

Whilst looking up the GPU though, the general consensus is wait another year. A 980 Ti will do wonders outside of SLI for anything out now or in a year or two at 1080/1440. It's considering 4K that gets tricky. It'll be another couple of years before a single GPU will be powerful enough to boast ultra 4K performance... and another year or two to make it affordable!

>>51495872

If your psu asploded you'd soon know - just check to see if the pcie conenctors haven't suffered any burn damage. If the mobo died NOTHING would work.

It sounds like a dead gpu.

>>51495803
That advice sucks, buy a card for $300 now and then resale it laster. Enjoy seven plus months of usage for a $50 net loss at worst.

>>51495689
>>51495413
anon? better? its my 'updated' one.

i could go for i7 I guess? but what use will it be for me. I'm just a pleb user of PC mostly.

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>>51495912

If you have 2 grand as your limit you could easily go balls out with a K i7, decent mobo (i'm not clued up on intel mobos), a decent cooler for MOAR OVERCLOCKING, a quality psu (i'm a fan of superflower units) and then add remaining gubbins to taste.

>>51495623
>>51495659

What exactly is the point of the 3.5+0.5 GB anyway? What were they trying to do?

Will the RAM be trouble? Motherboard says it supports 2400mhz ddr3.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3d2tZL

GPU from newegg special deal atm, all other unique prices from microcenter on friday.

I think I did good.

>>51495954

Much obliged, at least I know that I won't be cooking my components any time soon!

>>51495922
Thanks friend, at first i thought it was either the psu not providing enough energy to the graphic card to turn, thus showing me a black screen or the pci connectors burnt.

I guess the only way to find out is to test my gpu on another pc, which would be hard for me to do it. But all signs seems to point towards dead gpu, which is quite old and overused.

>>51496016
Marketing

>>51495912
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DtFBCJ
General part guide imo. 980ti for 1080-1440 will last more like 4-5 years. 4k is a meme.

I want 128gb ddr4 ram, which socket supports it?

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>>51496016

it is how they cut 980's down to 970's. The 660ti had a similar segemented memory but the major difference is Nvidia told everyone thats how it worked, with the 970 they said nothing and got caught.

>>51496066

If the gpu was working before the blackout clearly something has changed to cause it to not work.

It is possible the psu suffered from some damage but given you say the system currently works fine sans gpu the gpu is most likely what broke.

>>51496114
LGA 2011v3

>>51496114
lga 2011-3

>>51496121
>it is how they cut 980's down to 970's. The 660ti had a similar segemented memory but the major difference is Nvidia told everyone thats how it worked, with the 970 they said nothing and got caught.
lel and yet they control 80% of GPU market

with this shit.

fucking lol

anyone that respects himself as a consumer should just avoid nvidia

>>51496127
>>51496130
thanks anons

>>51496020
You don't need an optical drive. Get rid of it. Invest the money towards a better case. Fractal Design Define S is only a little more and worlds apart in quality construction and features.

In fact I think Newegg has a sale right now in the window version which is usually like 80 but down to 60. Windowless is 71

The ram will be fine. Just select XMP in the bios and it will configure itself. However if your are really worried, just clock it at 2133

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>>51488243
So, I readjusted my expectations, changed to a 2gb 960 instead of a 4gb, added a cpu cooler, and changed my power supply.

Any other suggestions?

I built my first pc in 2011 and i have been upgrading it a little bit here and there
I currently have a oc'd i5 2500k @4.5 ghz and a 970

is there a cpu that will greatly increase my performance? I heard intel is bringing out new cpus?

>>51496102
>4K is a meme
I bet you never had a 4K monitor

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CZjCTW
Any improvements?

>>51496595
im unsure how old that cpu is but iirc modern video games are mostly limited by gpu

any halfway decent intel will do

>>51496556

How much do 4gb 380's go for?

LOL I CHALLENGE YOU /g/

Create a desktop that is less than XBOX or PS4 that can play fallout. For less money.

I want to see this.

>>51496556
Switch back to the 4gb. Despite what people who don't understand technology will tell you, the maxwell architecture is capable of driving a 128bit bus to utilize 4gb of vram just fine.

You're massively overpaying on your PSU. You can get a decent 600-650W quality PSU from EVGA these days for around half that price. Reinvest the money you save plus a few more bucks into the GPU and get a cheap R9 390 which absolutely destroys the 960.

Your SSD catches my eye. Right now 500GB versions of that SSD are $150 on sale. Look into the 250GB model. Maybe it's only a few dollars more. Not sure but it's worth looking into

>>51496638
looks to be around $200

>>51496662
lmao

challenge yourself

>>51496662

Playing at console resolution and framerate isn't hard - only need to target 720p 30fps with drops.

>>51496685

Get a 4gb 380 over a 2gb 960.

>>51496595

Your CPU is and will continue to be fine for a while.

>>51496638

Anywhere from 200 to 250 bucks

>>51496595
There is ONE game that has shown even remotely significant performance difference between the 2500k and newer i5s per clock, Fallout 4. No one seems to know why. It's probably just Bethesda fucking up royally somehow. I highly doubt you need to upgrade BASED ON CPU anytime soon. You'll probably want to upgrade based on platform or overall just building a new PC before your CPU is truly obsolete at all.

>>51496868
>It's probably just Bethesda fucking up royally somehow

They're very good at that

I mean look at Skyrim

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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/VRP2P6

This is my final list of parts before black friday comes.
Can you guys be as critical as possible?

I decided on the GTX 970 because it's more quiet and energy efficient, although with me getting such a spacious case with a lot of fans wouldn't having an AMD card instead be an issue? Games are generally optimised for NVIDIA, but I heard somewhere the R9 290X outperforms the GTX 970. I still want no >drivers issues when I play games, though. I'll be playing vidya on Win 10 so I'll have access to DX12.

The CPU is from 2012, however if I find a better CPU on sale for a similar price during the sales I'll probably get it instead.

ty

>>51496612
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BVj3P6

>>51496662
>challenge
Like thats even difficult
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wZ67Vn

>>51496868

Fallout 4 is heavy on ram speeds, so given most reviewers bench newer chips with much faster ram that could possibly explain the discrepancy. Or chip cache, I dunno.

>>51497045
New thread

>>51496910
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/jbWVVn
Your budget is capable of supporting a better cpu.