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What is GNUnet?

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GNUnet is a fully decentralised p2p framework for a number of applications, the most commonly used one (probably) is filesharing
More info:
https://gnunet.org/goals
https://gnunet.org/concepts

>Why use GNUnet over private trackers?
Private trackers:
>have to keep up a seed ratio or you're thrown out
>have to attach an account to your searches and requests
>have to trust that the private tracker's owner won't leak your details anywhere
>uploading must be approved
GNUnet:
>no seeding requirement
>no account needed
>no trusted 3rd parties needed
>no way to trace any traffic back to you, unless you set anonymity to 0
>even just searching for content can be done via GNUnet's anonymous protocol
>anyone can publish anything
>no way for publishers to know who's downloading
>no way for downloaders to know who's publishing (except via optional namespaces)

>Sounds cool, where do I start?

/g/ GNUnet QUICKSTART GUIDE FOR FILE SHARING

### INSTALLATION ###

download and install using the package manager of your distro

or

https://gnunet.org/installation


### POST-INSTALLATION/USAGE ###

*Before doing anything else, run following command in terminal: gnunet-arm -s

To use the GUI, run gnunet-gtk and for setup/settings run gnunet-setup
For help on uploading/searching/downloading files via the GUI, see https://gnunet.org/first-steps-file-sharing


GNUnet can also be used in the terminal

__TERMINAL_COMMANDS__

To upload a file: gnunet-publish [-n] [-k KEYWORDS]* [-m TYPE:VALUE] FILENAME
*Note: see https://gnunet.org/gnunet-publish for more information

To search a file: gnunet-search "[SEARCH TERM]"
>example: gnunet-search "/g/"

To download a file: gnunet-download -o FILENAME -- GNUNETURL
*Note: the gnunet-search command will output the command needed to download the desired file

To shut down GNUnet: gnunet-arm -e

### ADDITIONAL RESOURCES ###

https://gnunet.org/installation
https://gnunet.org/user-handbook
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K
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default speeds are way too low, so ppl increase more bandwidth.
for bandwidth calculations
http://web.forret.com/tools/bandwidth.asp
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damn. did the entire board stop caring about GNUnet all of a sudden?

also, the wiki article needs work on.
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNUnet
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>>51470570
probably just a slow time.
i want to start using this, installed it just now.
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>>51469073
>*Before doing anything else, run following command in terminal: gnunet-arm -s

As a regular user or as root?
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>>51471474
>As a regular user or as root?
run as normal user
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>>51470570
everyones at the ipfs thread
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>>51471656
fine. the hype will die down eventually and things will pick up more here.
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>>51470570
I'm keeping an eye on these threads,Sir. I think a major issue with getting people interested is the lack of stuff to download.Maybe we should set up a scavenger hunt or something. The /g/ search only goes so far when nobody wants to upload anything.
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>>51473201
then do you want me to dump stuff?
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>>51471748
Doubt it, simply because ipfs is so fast you can already stream 720p videos over it no problem, while on gnu-net you can't even download sakura-fish unless you can dedicate the entire day to it.
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>>51473201
The worse part isn't that nobody's uploading and rather that nobody's seeding the shit that's uploaded so almost all the links are dead.
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>>51473221
Sure.Every little bit helps,right? I'll try to get some books up later today when I can get to my desktop.
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>>51473247
Bait.
Just change the settings, the two problem is the amount of adopters
>>51473221
Yes
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>>51473260
That too.
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>>51473270
>facts are bait
Top kek.
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How do I check if I'm seeding?
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>>51474382
That's just another issue i have with this. I guess pic related or iptraf but honestly you still have no idea what is going on with the connections or what you are transmitting or even if you've seeded a single file to completion.

also i hope for the love of god someone realizes that 5000B/s is about the worst starting speed for a file sharing service. You start it high, people download much faster and like the service enough to edit the settings to their liking. You start it low like gnunet did and nobody wants to stick around (pic related again - green+yellow is some douche uploading at 5kbs)

oh well though ded thred is ded
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«GNUnet_logos.zip» (21 b/s).


21 Bits/second?
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>>51476825
You better believe it. Gnunet stronk am i rite?
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>>51476853
But it can't be right it's a 1.8MB file and it downloaded in about 2 minutes...
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>>51476899
>it downloaded in about 2 minutes...
What wizardry is this? Are you sure it wasn't downloading for hours and then got a major chunk over 2 minutes?
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>>51476960
I'm sure, i'm adding "time" before the command to see the exact time it takes to download, maybe the B/s calculation is a bug or something
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>>51473221
Can you upload an algorithms book?
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What does GNUNet do that Freenet can't?
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Is this for real right now?
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>>51477131
Make calls and setup a VPN to the normal Internet.
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>>51477131
Not having a 20TB capacity limit.
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«Gold-crystals.jpg» (8 b/s).

real 7m44.555s
user 0m1.080s
sys 0m0.084s


it's a 3.8MB file

$ du -h Gold-crystals.jpg 
3.8M Gold-crystals.jpg
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pains me that I cant get it to work on a VM. my laptop is too slow to seed plus I dont have it on everyday.
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>>51477306
Looks like it's actually supposed to be kB/s and not b/s.
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>>51476995
goto library genesis and you can find one yourself
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>>51477339
Aren't libgen and its mirrors dead?
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>>51477339
But then that defeats the purpose of uploading shit to gnunet.
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>>51477362
i saw an article saying they stole their mirrors back?
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IPFS > GNUnet and everything else made by GNU.
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>>51477411
Woops forgot to remove name.
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>>51477269
>Not having a 20TB capacity limit.
pls elaborate
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>>51477546
Freenet has a hard limit as to how much the network can serve. As a node, you don't manually host content so you can't just buy a new hdd and keep going; the network itself has to serve the content and there is a capacity limit because of this.
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how do I install this on windows
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>>51477604
Sacrifice a goat to Satan while dancing and making guttural noise. Only works on a full moon.
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>>51477573
How are they gonna serve all that child porn then? This is why Tor is superior to freenet, Tor has unlimited capacity (for all intents and purposes) for serving child porn.
Or is this another one of those useless "anonimity" services that isn't meant for hosting child porn? Btw, is there child porn on gnunet?
(I've had a good laugh while writing this, pls don't van me NSA.)
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>>51477665
Tor and i2p are not even in the same class of technology as freenet, perfectdark, gnunet or ipfs. They offer 0 distruteness or decentralization for the data.
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>>51477721
Tor and <some shit> are not even in the same class of technology as freenet, <some shit>, gnunet or <some shit>. They offer literally 0 <buzzword> or <buzzword> for muh data.
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>>51477755
Ebin, simply ebin. Upvoted. Where's the subscribe button?
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>>51477755
But seriously though, tripsdubsguy, lack of decentralisation is the number one problem with the internet, and tor does nothing to aleviate this. That's basically how they could take down the silk road, and how they sensor clearnet sites: Find the server, and the site is down.
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>>51477777
I don't know man, I've just found this site yesterday on reddit. Nice quints btw fagtron (I gues this is what you're supposed to say?).
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>>51477777
quints sighted
dubs deployed
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>>51477777
Sheeez. Nice quints.
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>>51477812
>>51477826
>>51477828
It makes me so happy, last time I got quints while discussing a topic, I got banned for 5 months for reason "nice quints".
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>>51477721
tor and i2p _are_ decentralized (modulo the DHT seed hosts, just like bittorrent, ipfs, and gnunet), but you're right that they're different than ipfs/gnunet/freenet in that they provide anonymous point-to-point communication, not distributed data storage. They're decent platforms to build p2p storage on though. i2p has a bittorrent client built-in, and there are some large tahoe-LAFS pools running on it.
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>>51477870
I won't bother responding to you again you fucking autist. You're so wrong it's mind-numbing.
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>>51477807
Oh that makes sense. It makes me wonder what would the world be like had the silk road guy not fucked up (I mean had he configured the server properly, the real ip wouldn't have leaked).
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>>51477870
Enlighten us, in what way are tor decentralized?
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>>51477905
Probably much closer to a neo-medivealist utopia.
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>>51478004
>weighted dips
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>>51477926
Tor essentially gives you an anonymous tunnel between you and another host (be it the clearnet through an exit node, or an onion site). To do so, the network finds 3 different hosts running tor nodes, sets up non-anonymous but encrypted tunnels between them (3 layers of an onion). Those nodes are run by random people and coordinated through a DHT. That's the decentralized part. Attackers can compromise or take down a percentage the nodes with out affecting the privacy or availability of the network. If you go to the tor website, you'll find plenty of information for running your own node, and assuming you're not the NSA, that's one more node that would have to be compromised to take tor down.

There's a lot of misinformation flying around the ipfs and gnunet threads. I should really write a general FAQ at some point.
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>>51478128
It's not decentralised just because the traffic goes through different nodes, the content disappears if one of the nodes taken down happens to be the host you're connecting to. The site is served from one server, hence tor is centralized.

If it's decentralized, the information would be spread around on different servers, if one goes down you're routed to another one.

So please don't write that FAQ.
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>>51478311
Tor doesn't serve data, it serves anonymous tunnels which are decentralized for all useful definitions of the term; spelled out, you have to take down approximately 50% of the nodes running tor before you can no longer form an anonymous tunnel. If that's not what you want to mean by the word "decentralized", fine, but that's not actually what matters.
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>>51477949
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Do dips and rises in the network size line in gnunet-statistics-gtk infer that people are starting/stopping gnunet? or what
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>>51478604
No, it just shows how shitty gnunet is.
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>>51478462
Well, obviously we're talking about serving of data, and obviously that actually matters (I mean, I've already mentioned the silk road bust, but the examples are endless).

Oh, and much more than 50% of the nodes can be taken down with tor still functioning well. But no more than 50% of the nodes can be owned by a single provider (aka NSA) before the anonymity is compromised.
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>>51478653
On a related note, gnunet is also vulnerable to a 51% attack, and since it's such a small network, it's not unthinkable that it's currently compromised.
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>>51478691
That's interesting. But at the same time, I'm thinking it's not worth the effort exactly because it is small — there aren't enough juicy content to care about.
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>>51478723
Getting 5 people for free now is better than losing the chance when they get huge and the network grows with them. Though I agree that it's unlikely to be compromised yet in practice.
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>>51477339
#bookz
#ebooks
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All this seems like another great way to share malware and rootkits.
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>>51478653
Okay, we're in agreement then. There's nothing inherent in tor that prevents data distribution, just that it's not built in, so you have to run, say, bit torrent over it. The reverse is also true, there's very little privacy built in to bit torrent (or ipfs).

Re: the silk road, I think that's more of a problem of centralized trust rather than data. They could have distributed the servers like the pirate bay and told people to use a different onion address, but since there was only one guy keeping the escrow keys and managing the accounts, the feds could take him out and kill the whole thing, even if another admin restarted the server with the same data elsewhere. https://openbazaar.org/ is looking nice though, hopefully that goes somewhere.
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>>51478991
inr
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