Why is Unity hated again >no screen tearing unlike most DE

Its gay and looks like shit, install mate you fucking faggg

it looks like it was made for a child

>>51441420
Ok anon, what's a DE grown up and busy adults like yourself use?

Just use Compton, you nigger.

>>51441462
OS X

>>51441476
Does compton work with KDE?

It's literally the perfect DE, Linux is just a timesink OS for most of /g/ so they hate it since it gets shit done without having to spend hours reading manual pages.

>Not using Mint with Cinnamon
It's like you want a shit OS

>>51441927
>Not using Debian testing with MATE
It's like you want a shit OS

>>51441404
XFCE + Compton master race.

>>51441956
>Not using Arch with i3
It's like you want a shit OS

>>51442096
>Not using Gentoo with Gnome
It's like you want a shit OS

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>>51441927
>>51441956
>>51442096
>>51442177

1. The fact that it's hacked together using different parts of gnome and its own in house stuff. Just use all of your own shit and stop piggy backing on gnome2 and/or gnome3. In addition, the fact that it requires some QT programs alongside GTK. What the fuck is wrong with them?
2. The amazon searching
3. Canonical's blatant lack of care for privacy

>>51441404
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Unity, is in fact, Amazon/Unity, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Amazon plus Unity. Unity is not a desktop environment unto itself, but rather another nonfree component of an otherwise fully functioning GNU system that is extended by the Amazon search functionality, rental utilities and spyware components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

>>51441404
>>no screen tearing unlike most DE
I dont get screan tearing
>>looks nice out of the box
thats like your opinion man
>>uses the best window manager known as compiz
thats like bullshit man
>>comfy to search for application with dash
ok

>>51442177
>gentoo with gnome
brb throwing up

>>51442283
Yeah I've never understood the screen tearing argument. I've only noticed it on Xfce, which I don't use, and I don't see why it's important anyway. It's like these people just sit there moving windows around their desktop and nerdraging / crying all day.

I don't think it's the best, but it certainly does the job.

>>51441404
>no screen tearing unlike most DE

Decent graphics drivers have this shit implemented in it. You're basically complaining about compositors which every competent DE has (KDE for one).

>looks nice out of the box

No.

>uses the best window manager known as compiz

top kek

>>51441404
It's too user-friendly, any noob can pick it up in a couple of minutes. When I use Unity, I loose that tingly feeling of superiority over Windows users.

That's why I don't use a GUI.

>>51442361
*tips fedora and sheathes katana*

>>51442361
Also, w-what if somebody who browses /g/ sees me using Unity in public!? I-I want them like me, so I'll never use something they don't like.

That's why I've always got a screenfetch window visible showing off my riced Arch install with i3.

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>>51441462

>>51442459
cyĸa

>>51441404
>amazon

>>51442468
>cyĸa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_Cyrillic_alphabet

>>51441404
Not customizable. Even windows allows you to move taskbar around yet for some reason Canonical decided to lock down everything they could.
Also Unity is hated mostly due it it's bad history. If you were around back when Ubuntu switched from gnome2 to Unity you would know what I'm talking about. Unfortunately for Canonical fuckups like that are not forgotten easily.

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>>51442361

>>51442597
fukken saved

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>>51442432
Use an icon theme, learn to use the keyboard shortcuts and compiz config manager to adjust it t oyour needs and you've got a great DE, the hate is based only on vocal arch faggs who still think Linux is a secrit l33t club.

>>51441404
>>no screen tearing unlike most DE

lrn2config X, desu.

if you're using Mesa DRI:
Option "TearFree" "true"

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>>51442096
ayy

>>51441404
No proper HiDPI support, even though it's a gnome fork.

I can't wait for unity 8, killing compiz and X

>>51442691
>>UNITY
kek, nice thread though, nearly forgot how shit it was, thanks for the reminder

>>51442215
>The fact that it's hacked together using different parts of gnome and its own in house stuff.
Unity has nothing to do with Gnome. editor and file explorers are not part of a DE and Canonical forked them only after upstream was unwilling to accept their patches for bullshit political reasons. (we don't like that your patches mention Canonical)

>>51443138
>Unity has nothing to do with Gnome.
>Canonical forked them
Which is it? Is it Gnome-based or is it not Gnome-based?

>>51442320
arguably only Compiz (Unity) and libmutter (Gnome 3) are decent X.org compositors. KWin (KDE Plasma 4) would be decent, too. but KDE Plasma 5 was released in alpha-state and KDE Plasma 4 support stopped.

if you then have to choice between Unity and Gnome 3. Unity at least is still window-centric and not application-centric like its primary focus are touchscreen users.

>>51443272
learn to read retard. those aren't part of the DE.

>>51441404
>no screen tearing unlike most DE
don't ever have problems on XFCE
>looks nice out of the box
subjective
>uses the best window manager known as compiz
subjective again, I prefer XFWM
>comfy to search for application with dash
AMAZON BOTNET
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>>51442352
>Decent graphics drivers have this shit implemented in it.
nope, compositing is the purview of the compositor. hacking it into graphic drivers is not something you want. it's not done in any other OS and won't be done for Wayland.

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37686

>>51443369
Cinnamon/Mutter is pretty great too and actually desktop focused.

>>51443385
I interpreted >>51442215 first point talking about just unity. When you said them, I assumed that Gnome DE would be included, based on how you refereed to it alone in the first sentence. If you said Gnome Software Suite, then it would have made sense, but you just said Gnome at the end there.

>>51443438

I didn't say compositor you stupid faggot, I said tearfree

>>51443573
Tearfree has a big performance impact. A compositor with vsync does not.

>>51443454
Muffin isn't that great. Ancient libmutter 3.2.1 fork and not good at keeping up. GTK devs/graphic vendors don't care about it.
https://github.com/linuxmint/muffin/issues/177
https://github.com/linuxmint/muffin/issues/200
https://github.com/linuxmint/muffin/issues/206

>>51443573
tearfree is basically a poor man's compositor.
how about you actually read the bugreport
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37686#c123

>>51442177
>not using OSX
its like you want a shit os

>>51441404
>Typing something into the menu and waiting for the results
Cinnamon responds fucking instantly.

>>51444274
>not using funtoo with i3
it's like you want a shit OS

>>51441404
The biggest reason I don't like it is the unity things such as the quick launch thing are slow as fuck. Bloated to the max.

>>51441404

borderline unusable on old hardware

still p bad on new

bad discoverability

It's not that it's that bad, just that literally everything else is so much better

>>51441898
this, though more important than
>not having to spend hours reading manual pages
is
>no possibility to validate their sad, pathetic existence by being tech support to their 57-year-old mum on whose PC they installed arch linux with an OSX icon theme ("she won't even notice herp normies are so stupid lol tips fedora") to drive them into a relationship of dependence

>>51441404
>stupid bar on the left
>transparency
>retard mode huge icons
>round close/minimize/maximize buttons

disgusting

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>>51444666
>it's touch-enabled, grampa
nah, i agree

although i'm starting to warm up to it... unity as a whole, that is. i just don't like the default theme. and i still think a dock on the left is stupid; at least let us change it ... and yeah, the search lens crap, it's a nice idea, but it's TOO BIG, it should be the size of OSX's spotlight.

and there should be no fucking bubbles in the background on the dock. this shit made sense on iOS because it's a small screen and you needed all the space there was. the icons in unity don't even fill out the bubble. so gimmicky.

>>51441404
As soon as the Amazon cancer goes anyway, I'll use it again.

>>51441404
i like unity except for the shitty dash. fuck me is it awful. also i want to move the bar from the left elsewhere. otherwise it is pretty decent.

>>51445029
So likely next version, when new Unity 8 will be default.

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>>51441404
Agree with OP.
Unity is easily the best Linux desktop and it mystifies me why it gets so much grief.

>>51445029

In Unity 8 you'll have to opt in to that

>>51442361
100% this.

>>51441404
>unity tweak
>icon pack
>enable privacy settings to not have amazon on the desktop
it's bretty good t b h

>>51442361
this is the real problem, it's borderline boring

>>51442361
wow I couldn't tell the truth to myself but it's fuckin this.

>>51445077
shitty polished turd standard theme and iconset. also the search thingy is too big. and the amazon thing is annoying. that's it really. but it's a bit intrusive and obnoxious

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>>51441404
>no screen tearing unlike most DE
I thought this was more of a driver thing

>looks nice out of the box
I kind of hate the default theme. I use numix

>uses the best window manager known as compiz
Meh

>comfy to search for application with dash
I find the dash to be a little too big for my liking. I'd rather something that doesn't take up half my screen.

It's far from perfect but has come a long way since when Ubuntu first switched from gnome 2. Those were dark times.

There are a couple of other things that annoy me:
- Why the fuck can't I move the launcher. Also not very customisable in general.
- Fucking amazon. I can opt out, but still.
- The desktop I run it on now is rather snappy but I remember running Unity on a netbook in its early days and it was unbearably sluggish.
- It's not i3. I kinda miss my minimal install with i3.

>>51441404
>You can't move the bar to the bottom

>>51446644
>Also not very customisable in general.
this. there's not a single option to change the appearance of the search / lenses thing

>>51446644
funny enough, the speed of unity in ubuntu 15 is what impresses me

I'm on a thinkpad X201 tablet and it's very smooth with a couple webm's playing and a vm running

>>51446874
They must have worked on it since then I guess. I recall a lot of people complaining about the sluggishness back then.

Now if only they'd stop fucking around with this mir idea and just fucking use wayland...

>>51442833
Stick to ubuntu, ilias

Even my mother hates this shit.
She said my i3 is beautifull, but she stills with KDE.

Too easy to use

won't make /g/ neckbeards feel like the special snowflakes they think they are

>>51441404
Because amazon.

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>>51447245
>he can't apt-get purge unity-webapps-common unity-lens-shopping

>>51447280
jim carrey always makes me sad. behind those crazy grimaces and smiley faces he pulls he always seems so apathetic ... i heard he's got depression or something

i wonder if he'll robbie williams himself someday

>>51447280

I shouldn't have to

>>51441404
when you install numix or any other icon theme, it has no animation in the UI. literally feels like clicking .jpg images in a html page.

It gets slower with time like Windows, it has two taskbars which consumes too much space and Ubuntu very little customization options through unity tweak tool. They have locked down so many options like moving the open/close buttons to right or changing mouse cursor.

Xubuntu + Compton is the shit. Its like XP but only better and with newer software.

>>51447391
MATE + Compton is also quite nice

>>51441404
>again

>>51447394
Yes mate is very good also. It looks almost exactly like xfce.

Ubuntu Mate had a few annoying bugs when I ran it for a week. So I went with Xubuntu in the end.

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>>51447391
>xubuntu + compton
>not xubuntu + compiz

>>51443436
>Amazon botnet?

>Still?

>Really?

I'm running vanilla Ubuntu 14.04 on an Acer Revo to my TV with no issues. It's slow to start but runs a a killer HTPC and has for years.

>>51447394
Marco is not compatible with Compton

But I guess you'd know that of you knew what you're talking. Gtfo poser

>>51447549
I'm literally using MATE with compton right now faggot

Xubuntu and never looked back, use it for most any purpose.

Except right now I'm running a 12.04 install that was done over 11.10 and acts fucking weird and the RAM is crapping out. Also I refuse to move on because it has the best version of Greybird ever and I can't find it anywhere. Please tell me how to extract it and put it in 14.04 LTS so I can retire this IBM-built museum piece.

>all these faggots recommendibg xubuntu

Murder yourselves

At least you should install ubuntu minimal + xfce to avoid broken packages, upstream diarrhea and pre-riced shitballs

>>51447280
hopefully, otherwise that would mean you are running some ancient now-unsupported Ubuntu release

>>51447940
what are you talking about? which broken packages? link to lp pls

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>>51441490
why the fuck would you want compton on KDE? makes no fucking sense. it's literally a stand-in compositor to fix tearing on lightweight DEs like xfce, mate, and lxde. it has no place or reason to be used in conjunction with KDE. jesus christ get a fucking grip you insufferable mongoloid.

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>>51449231
>calls him an insufferable mongoloid
>spergs out over compton

>looks nice out of the box
kek

>>51442249
kek

why can't the foss community fucking like fundraise for a proper graphic designer to not make a DE that doesn't look like it's for children.

>>51441404
>no screen tearing unlike most DE
Most DEs don't suffer from screen tearing.

>looks nice out of the box
Subjective.

>uses the best window manager known as compiz
Compiz is shit, unstable, bloated, slow and poorly maintained. I don't think there's a worst WM is existence.

>comfy to search for application with dash
Most other DEs do it in a more efficient, fast, and bug-free way.

>>51451035
>Compiz is shit, unstable, bloated, slow and poorly maintained. I don't think there's a worst WM is existence.
Compiz isn't a window manager, lol.

>>51441404
It's only hated on by /g/ipsters who need some arbitrary level of difficulty in their software solutions. Best window manager there is imo

>Can't event install Ubuntu on a second hard drive because of UEFI shittery
help im retarded

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>>51451046

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Ignore the haters. Ubuntu is used on the international space station, on the Mars rover, in Tesla cars, on the Space X space ships and at NASA.

>>51453644

I want some tiny robots too :(